Utopia

(131 Posts)
Rollergirl1 Tue 15-Jan-13 22:07:37

Is anyone watching? I think it looks really promising I think.

I'm half watching. I should really turn off, go to sleep, and watch it on 4od.

Jux Tue 15-Jan-13 22:18:00

We are about to give up and we're only on the first ad break. Are we meant to be able to read those msgs? The text was far too small and the contrast was completely inadequate, couldn't read a word. If it turns out to be important we'll be really annoyed.

It's very disappointing as we were really looking forward to it. DH has already given up and is gazing at guitarson ebay. I'm hanging inthere, but if there's a lot of it, I'll give up too.

Really pissed off, tbh, even though it's only tv.

Rollergirl1 Tue 15-Jan-13 22:24:09

Yes they were tricky to read. The messages said that one guy had the second volume of Utopia, the rest said there wasn't one and he said that it was unpublished and never been seen before. Then they arranged to meet in the pub to look at it. People from the forum have never met before apparently.

Jux Tue 15-Jan-13 22:36:03

Thank you, Rollergirl. I may have to ask for a similar synopsis if there's another flurry of unreadable text!

How are you enjoying it so far?

Rollergirl1 Tue 15-Jan-13 22:40:44

Hmmmn, I'm finding it quite disjointed. I had heard that it very much relies on the audience to make the connections themselves.

I have no idea whats going on with the guy and the Russian flu vaccination!

Oodsigma Tue 15-Jan-13 22:41:25

Forgot this was on, better tell me at the end if it's worth 4 OD

ThePathanKhansWitch Tue 15-Jan-13 22:44:07

I,m loving it so far. Brilliant.

KissysUnderTheMisteltoe Tue 15-Jan-13 22:50:17

I think it's quite good so far, also confused about the Russian flu storyline tho

Jux Tue 15-Jan-13 22:52:26

It's interesting. I think it might be good.

Rollergirl1 Tue 15-Jan-13 23:01:47

What's wrong with the bad guy that just killed the cop? He walks weirdly and never talks. Do you think he might have the disease?

KissysUnderTheMisteltoe Tue 15-Jan-13 23:03:35

Maybe, he's pretty sinister!

SinisterBuggyMonth Tue 15-Jan-13 23:06:10

I'm quite enjoying it. Thats a good point Rollergirl. Oh I hate it when they do extra warnings like that, something gorry ahead.

KissysUnderTheMisteltoe Tue 15-Jan-13 23:09:00

Don't think I can watch this bit confused

SinisterBuggyMonth Tue 15-Jan-13 23:10:16

Ok officially hiding behind the pillow now

SinisterBuggyMonth Tue 15-Jan-13 23:12:40

The new minister is dodgy

Rollergirl1 Tue 15-Jan-13 23:13:05

That was really grim! I wasn't really paying attention at the time but what was the but with this health minister guy talking to Stephen Rea? Who was he meant to be?

Rollergirl1 Tue 15-Jan-13 23:16:12

Ahhh Sinister, perhaps that was the purpose of the Russian flu? So that guy would get the sack or resign and they could get that guy in?

And WHO IS JESSICA HYTHE??!

Jux Tue 15-Jan-13 23:19:04

Ah, officially drawn in!

SinisterBuggyMonth Tue 15-Jan-13 23:21:12

There she is!

ShephardsDelight Tue 15-Jan-13 23:37:07

Oh god that was horrible.

maxmillie Tue 15-Jan-13 23:48:56

Also sucked in, also strangely impressed that couldn't watch the torture scene, don't often see that on tv, very disturbing.

Keep thinking about the boy in the comic shop : (

Yes I reckon arby and Jessica are both genetically altered.

Apparently one of the actors said it builds in shock factor and that on a scale of 1-10 this one was only a 2!!

thekidsrule Wed 16-Jan-13 22:10:08

i was very confused

KatoPotato Thu 17-Jan-13 10:32:50

My theory is that young Grant is actually one of the killers from the past... based on tracksuit bottoms and the limp!

I can't watch violence like that. It turns my stomach. It's a shame, because I wanted to watch it and follow the story. But if there's going to be more 'shock factor' horror scenes, I'm out.

SpanishFly Thu 17-Jan-13 11:38:01

caught up with this last night - I REALLY enjoyed it - except the torture scene :S
It totally drew us in from the start, and I can't wait to see what happens next.
Kato the boy was only limping after he'd jumped from the school window - he wasnt limping at the start.

KatoPotato Thu 17-Jan-13 11:48:47

SpanishFly you're quite right, but It's my tracksuit based theory and I'm throwing it out there now just in case!

Really enjoyed it but made DH watch the torture scene on mute with subtitles while I stared at the dining room!

Rollergirl1 Fri 18-Jan-13 21:53:14

Kato: What do you mean a killer from the past?? Do you know something we dont?

DH watched last night and really enjoyed but is also concerned. He is a lover of graphic novels and he thought the "Utopia Experiment" was going to be about something supernatural or impossible (has anyone ever read the book House of Leaves?) but instead he thinks it's just going to be about a pharmaceutical company creating something so they can find the cure. I'm inclined to agree. Even so it's very good.

Arby's character is creepy, scary, utterly terrifying!! He's a great actor, Neil Maskell, anyone whos seen Kill List will know his skills!

Who's the other guy with Arby? Is is name Lee? I think he strikes a remarkable resemblance to Charlie Creed Miles but can't work out who he is??

SpanishFly Fri 18-Jan-13 22:04:41

PLEASE NO SPOILERS! if u DO know something, don't post it here smile

KatoPotato Fri 18-Jan-13 22:35:21

My theory is that Grant is Arby.

It's based on track suit bottoms only!

Rollergirl1 Fri 18-Jan-13 23:17:39

No spoilers, i don't know anything. Just a theory.

maxmillie Sat 19-Jan-13 10:04:28

Good theory! I definitely thought there was something odd about him, you know when he leaves the house and his mother is passed out supposedly drunk on the sofa, you never actually see her and I reckon she's dead, he throws the blanket over the body, not puts it over her to keep her warm? Maybe he killed her?

I know nothing just theorising.

Isn't there a supernatural element though? There is stuff in the books that the author drew before they happened? Isn't that why they are after the second one? First one had molecular structure of the disease.

Orenishii Sat 19-Jan-13 10:11:04

Rollergirl House of Leaves is INSANE! Creepy, thrilling, clever, epic, odd....GOD grin

WTAF was that?
I'm in now. Need to know what happens

betterwhenthesunshines Sat 19-Jan-13 22:32:20

All your talk about torture nearly put me off, but that was a good first episode. Good to see something different on TV rather than the usual silent Witness type guff.

Finally just watched this. I'm in!

Fuck me that was violent - and that's '2' on the shock factor scale?? There's something a bit 'Clockwork Orange' about Arby & Co but can't quite put my finger on it.

Loved it but also keep thing about the bit in the record shop sad

And I have House of Leaves but never got beyond the first chapter when the house seems to have shifted an inch, you have just reminded me to pick it back up. Thank you.

*thinking

Rollergirl1 Sun 20-Jan-13 12:56:31

Kato: That's a really good theory acually. I can totally buy that!

Also what's with Arby and those things he eats all time? Are they raisins?

As for House of Leaves, I think it is one of the most formidable books that I have ever read. A lot of people write it off as gimmicky because of the bizarre format. But you can't deny that it is utterly unique. I would kill to have an imagintation like Mark Z Daniewewski. Just the content in some of the footnotes alone are the stuff of brilliant madness. And the story is clever, mesmering and terrifying. I would love for it to be made in to a film but fear that there's just too much content. It would be a ridiculously long film.

I think the 'baddies' are under some sort of mind control, they seem very emotionless and robotic.

StinkyWicket Sun 20-Jan-13 19:43:59

Watched it last night on OD. Loved it - right up my street! Can't wait for the next ep.

Does anyone know if it gets more violent? I'm not sure I can cope with the violence potentially including children sad

TreadOnTheCracks Sun 20-Jan-13 20:32:02

I am finding it all very uncomfortable and very violent. Nearly at the end of the first part so will watch to the end and see how I feel about trying part two.

Oodsigma Sun 20-Jan-13 21:56:48

V gripping but I couldn't watch the torture either.
Liking Wilson Wilson too

Did anyone watch part 2?

getagoldtoof Thu 24-Jan-13 07:51:05

Yes. It really stays with you.

I found number two very predictable, i guessed most scenes. I'm not bragging, I just genuinely never guess what will happen next even in films like Inception, which everyone guessed, but I hadn't a clue!

Despite this, I really enjoyed it. It was creepy. I didn't find the second episode's violence too much, but it was still very visible. It was interesting and emotional, when Grant is united with the gang I welled up. I can really identify with him as a lost child.

I am a fan, and mostly because of the beautiful colours. I could watch for hours.

Oodsigma Thu 24-Jan-13 08:44:42

Yes, I watched. Am a bit worried this is one that will promise & not deliver.

It thought it was good- not too much violence

Llareggub Thu 24-Jan-13 09:43:54

Love this - I really hope it doesn't turn out like Lost and be a waste of time invested in it. I love the way it is filmed, the dialogue and the humour. I haven't enjoyed something so much on television in a long time.

maxmillie Thu 24-Jan-13 13:42:08

I also thought the colours were amazing

SpanishFly Thu 24-Jan-13 15:33:11

I felt like I started to lose the thread in the second episode, for some reason?

the colours really are lovely - I love how it gives a dreamlike quality to it all

valiumredhead Fri 25-Jan-13 15:28:42

Just watched episode 1 - urghhhhhhhh!!

Will watch 2 over the weekend from behind a cushion!

dontsqueezetheteabag Mon 28-Jan-13 13:50:21

I had to keep asking DH what the bloody hell was going on?

Anyone prepared to give me an idiots guide? I found it really entertaining but totally didn't get it!!!!

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valiumredhead Mon 28-Jan-13 14:01:30

I'm not sure I could tell you tbh grin I found the second episode not as gripping as the first.

Jux Mon 28-Jan-13 15:47:40

I completely forgot it was on!

hackneybird Mon 28-Jan-13 22:26:46

Hi there teabag, why don't you read the guardian blog which has a helpful summary.

hackneybird Mon 28-Jan-13 22:31:19

http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/tvandradioblog/2013/jan/15/utopia-episode-by-episode

And here's the link!! Doh

PariahHairy Mon 28-Jan-13 22:40:44

Really enjoying this series, I too like the bright colours it does feel very surreal and dreamlike, the assassins are very odd, especially Neil Maskell who was great in kill list, he does seem very mind controlled/zombie like.

I don't think it will end up being as shallow as the drug company introducing the flu to sell vaccines (although, they obviously are). Jessica said, when Becky was going on about Corvadt that it was basically a tiny part of it all, think it will be a grander conspiracy.

Looking forward to the next 4 episodes, something different and interesting to watch for a change.

PariahHairy Mon 28-Jan-13 22:43:32

Although I am slightly confused in that the network was set up to combat the soviets weaponising various bacteria/viruses, so why would they now be doing the same thing?

Rollergirl1 Tue 29-Jan-13 14:29:59

I watched it last week but it wasn't anywhere near as good as the first episode. I think it was probably because Arby wasn't in it as much (and his character is excellent). Also Jessica is fucking annoying.

I thought they really concentrated on Grant's character in the last episode. He was a little gob-shite in the first but they really explored his fear in the last one. I thought it was brilliant when he meets Becky and hugs her. It just shows that underneath all the false bravado he's still just a little boy.

So what's going on with Becky then? Is she one of them?!

Looking forward to tonight's episode. The trailer for this week showed Arby saying "what happened to my parent's" so think we'll see a bit more of him.

Fiderer Tue 29-Jan-13 15:23:09

Agree it's very enjoyable, and very scary!

Occurred to me afterwards they didn't show Becky being arrested, she told Ian that on the phone - so she may be one of them, or part of another group.

Also, WilsonWilson was so sure about them not being trackable when she went online to check on his dad, how did the killer find the house they were in? Must have been Becky?

pictish Tue 29-Jan-13 15:26:44

I've been loving it!! Can't wait for tonight!

Rollergirl1 Tue 29-Jan-13 16:02:35

I think Becky must be working for another group that are also after the manuscript. Because Arby (and therefore The Network) already know that Grant has the manuscript as he stole it from them in the first place. So Becky must be telling someone else.

Fiderer Tue 29-Jan-13 16:35:36

Rollergirl1 Yes, you're right, hadn't thought of that.

Didn't get the PhD application bit. If her PhD was to be based on the manuscript, she must have had it/a copy. But from where? The one Grant has is the 2nd one but surely the university bods would be in danger having seen the 1st one?

BeQuicksieorBeDead Wed 30-Jan-13 08:18:21

I think the first one was a general release, as it has an internet forum.

I love this story, my oh has been put off by the violence but I think it shows the lengths these people will go to, without any remorse. If they were just making threats, or we didnt see the extent of the horror, we wouldn't feel the danger!

Reckon there will be some flack about the school shooting though...in light of recent events.

SpanishFly Wed 30-Jan-13 13:06:01

But anyone who says it's too violent is missing the whole point of the programme.

The programme itself is meant to look/be like a cult graphic novel - the bright colours, the odd way some of them behave and talk, etc.

In other words, the violence is part of the point of the programme. And "they" would go to any length - especially murder - to get their hands on the Utopia manuscript, which is thought to predict future disasters (and lead them to their Utopia)

Rollergirl1 Wed 30-Jan-13 13:41:59

I 100% agree with you SpanishFly, the violence is the point. And it could have been far more gratuitous. The school massacre was shot to show as little as possible for maximum effect.

Did anyone notice the doctors/pathologists take their masks off when re-entering the quarantine tent where Dugdale was hiding? If they're not concerned about infection it kind of suggests that there isn't a spanish flu epidemic after all?

And i agree even more now with what someone in the thread said a few weeks back, that Jessica and Arby have both been genetically modified somehow. Perhaps Jessica isn't Carvel's real daughter but his first creation?

valiumredhead Wed 30-Jan-13 17:11:10

Wow it was good this week - hooked me right back in! Graphic in the school when the child was shot <gulp>

I think the violence is valid -it's the whole point as mentioned above.

Rollergirl1 Wed 30-Jan-13 17:20:17

I also think the soundtrack is amazing and is perfect for the series.

valiumredhead Wed 30-Jan-13 17:53:21

Yeah, the music is fab!

recall Wed 30-Jan-13 18:00:13

"where is Jessica Hyde ?" <<shudder>>

crunchbag Wed 30-Jan-13 19:02:28

Weird, brutal and highly addictive, I am enjoying it!

Oodsigma Wed 30-Jan-13 21:18:54

Just caught up. More confused than ever. Trying to decide who is in which group/ good/ bad etc is giving me a headache.

BeQuicksieorBeDead Wed 30-Jan-13 22:04:08

Arby is broken isn't he! In the first episode I thought he was just very cold and hard, now I think he is a malfunctioning robot!

Fiderer Thu 31-Jan-13 06:54:14

The childhood theme was really well done - especially Arby and Grant.

Also think the colours and the music are mesmerizing, e.g. where the scientist runs away from Dugdale. Wonder if the Network are on to the scientist? They seem to know everything.

Why didn't the man in the car not just go and shoot them in the farmhouse?

iwouldgoouttonight Thu 31-Jan-13 16:08:24

I'm really enjoying this, I love the colours and music too. I was thinking that Jessica and Arby were 'created' by Jessica's dad. Although now I'm wondering about Arby's stomach, it looks wrong, not just fat but an odd shape, and there seems to be a lot of focus on it. Wondering if that's the result of 'rabbit' being sliced onto it? Is he Mr rabbit??

I am probably over thinking this.

CalamityKate Fri 01-Feb-13 00:39:24

I don't think Arby is Mr Rabbit. I wonder who is. Someone we've already seen or someone new?? Fascinating. Love it.

CalamityKate Fri 01-Feb-13 00:40:21

All this talk of messing with genetics and suchlike.... maybe Arby's pregnant!

hackneybird Sun 03-Feb-13 08:41:32

How did everyone feel about that school scene at the begninning of last weeks episode? I found it very tough to watch.

CalamityKate Sun 03-Feb-13 10:41:13

It affected me far less than the torture scene in ep 1.

TBH I don't get the fuss. No children were actually seen shot and it isn't real. I don't get why the depiction of fictional children being shot is worse than anything else really.

Fiderer Sun 03-Feb-13 15:58:28

It was grim but they did it really well, imo.

I was expecting him to only kill the head but when he set off again, it was clear what would happen. The boy running in and out was one of those hold-your-breath moments and when he hesitated in the gym, another.

ImNotDrunkIJustCantType Mon 04-Feb-13 07:38:45

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

SpanishFly Mon 04-Feb-13 10:02:11

Yes, I said thsy earlier on this thread - it's shot like a graphic novel smile

ImNotDrunkIJustCantType Mon 04-Feb-13 10:04:18

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

SpanishFly Mon 04-Feb-13 16:43:58

grin Great minds think alike

Rollergirl1 Tue 05-Feb-13 21:57:01

Are people planning to watch tonight? I'm really looking forward to it!

SpanishFly Tue 05-Feb-13 22:00:23

I'll be watching the Following tonight, then Utopia tomorrow :-)

CalamityKate Wed 06-Feb-13 00:29:51

Poor Arby. I'm starting to want to give him a hug.

SaladIsMyFriend Wed 06-Feb-13 12:58:15

After watching the first 3 episodes through my fingers wondering if I actually enjoy this programme or just hate the violence too much, I found last night's episode flew by and was gripping. Also felt sorry for Arby, which is incredible after all the things he's done.

Haven't got a clue what is going in though confused

But it's kind of good to watch something where you haven't got a clue what's going to happen next, for a change!

crunchbag Wed 06-Feb-13 16:30:46

Yes poor Arby, 'when they couldn't remember your name, they started calling you raisin boy, rb.

I am still confused about it all but is is fascinating.

valiumredhead Wed 06-Feb-13 17:01:58

Just seen it - still like grin

Oodsigma Wed 06-Feb-13 20:23:01

Watched, still confused & loving it, dh likens it to Twin Peaks

Fiderer Thu 07-Feb-13 06:23:53

I just watched it - continues to be good. The pace seemed different somehow, or maybe you get used to it! Really good scenes with Arby. Also think Grant and Alice are v good actors.

If The Network are chasing Jessica and Arby asks "Where's JH?" the whole time, how did the sinister Assistant know where she was?

Rollergirl1 Thu 07-Feb-13 10:39:46

Fiderer: They (Letts and his assistant) always seem to know where they are, so I don't understand why they don't just send someone else to kill them.

Also why would they just let Arby take the manuscript when they have spent so long trying to track it down. Arby is a scary fucker but they are still his bosses and it doesn't make sense that they would just let him go.

And what's going on with Becky? She's definitely working for someone but it's not The Network. On the phone she said something like "What's going on, are they poisoning people?" which makes it sound like she knows who "they" are and has had some kind of involvement somewhere along the line.

AWeeBitConfused Thu 07-Feb-13 18:35:50

Did Becky not say that there was a new genetic disease deels? That has started and was drawn in utopia.

Did her dad not die from it and did she nor reveal that when the background from all those that had died from it was looked into they all shared the one thing that they had all worked for the evil drug company.

Becky is seen taking pills out of little plastic bags. I think she has deels and the people she is working with are also sufferers who are all trying to get to the bottom of things so they can get a cure.

iwouldgoouttonight Thu 07-Feb-13 20:43:21

Aweebitconfused, I agree, I think Becky has Deels too, when she dropped her cup of Fanta it was like she was losing her coordination.

My new theory is Jessica's dad is also Mr Rabbit. Jessica and Arby are his children so would be Jessica rabbit and Piotr (peter) rabbit.

I'm sure I am wrong but enjoy thinking about it.

Rollergirl1 Thu 07-Feb-13 21:19:38

AweeBit: I agree too about Becky having Deels and she's slowly starting to deteriorate.

iwould: Wow, d'yknow, i think you've got it! For the past two episodes i've been trying to work out a link between Arby and Jessica, because they quite clearly have one! I think yours is the link!

I also read a review saying that Grant and Alice are the new Arby and Jessica of the future and spent some time thinking about how they could all be linked. Perhaps we can all work it out??

Rollergirl1 Thu 07-Feb-13 21:30:41

Thinking about it further, i think both Jessica and Arby (Pietry, Peter) were his first test subjects. And they named them after rabbits, rabbits being the most tested upon animals?

Fuck, they're both rabbits??! grin

Arby has the degenerative gene which manufactures itself as "Deels".

What does Jessica have?

ImNotDrunkIJustCantType Thu 07-Feb-13 21:58:00

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

AugustMoon Thu 07-Feb-13 22:06:55

Does anyone know if Arby really shot the boy with the raisins in the gym? He went to his bosses and said 'there was a boy and he had these raisins and I couldn't do it' or words to that effect - I'm hoping he didn't kill him and he can be a witness to the fact it wasn't Grant wot dunnit!
He's def got something under that coat.
Is Philip Carvel supposed to be dead? So can't be mr. Rabbit? Was thinking maybe the new pm? Seems to have a lot of power. Not really weird enough though.

maxmillie Thu 07-Feb-13 22:49:44

Think he's minister of health not pm?

Great rabbit theory

Oodsigma Fri 08-Feb-13 04:42:03

Ooh good theories here. Like the rabbits & the boy in the gym one

Fiderer Fri 08-Feb-13 08:10:21

The boy in the gym was shot, the opening credits came up and a shot was heard. Arby hesitating and registering that was the start of his beginning to question who he was, I think.

Agree there must be a connection between Arby and Jessica. He went from asking "Where is JH?" to find the manuscript and kill her, to asking "Where is JH?" because he thinks she has answers to his questions.

The name thing is interesting. I wonder if Jessica gave herself the surname Hyde because as a child she heard "Jessica, hide" all the time and/or in ref to Jekyll and Hyde, owing to her changed character caused by her childhood. She was on the run from the age of 4 and on her own at 10.

Rollergirl1 Fri 08-Feb-13 18:21:11

Yes, I think the fact that the boy was eating the same raisins as him brought him up short and made him reflect on himself as a boy and made him question why he is like the way he is.

Fiderer: Your ideas on Jessica's surname are really clever. But it made me think, have we actually seen how her surname is spelt? Where did Hyde spelt that way come from? Have we all just assumed that's how you spell it? They have already done a play on words with Arby and RB so it's very possible that Hyde is actually Hide?

Fiderer Sat 09-Feb-13 09:58:52

You're right, we haven't, I just assumed it was spelled "Hyde". Must be more careful <looks over shoulder>

I'm really enjoying all the wondering, I had a brilliant theory that Grant made up the "Mr Rabbit's name begins with an L" because he can't read (rarely at school) so it was a giant red herring. Brilliant till I realised he was on the Utopia forum so can type and can read grin

I can now admit (cos no one here will hmm at me) that I had googled to see if Arby was a real name. A US sandwich company exists, so-called because of the Raffel Brothers and I did wonder if Arby's real name was R.B. as initials - the fact that it came from his nickname and the raisins because no one knew his real name any more was far worse.

Fiderer Sat 09-Feb-13 11:45:44

Didn't mean to sound snotty, btw, with that 1st sentence. Reading it again it sounds a bit so - meant it as a "Ooh, yes, it could be either."

Back to say, was it the publisher who walked into the path of a lorry? Couldn't sleep last night and the knotty Utopia plot was a welcome diversion.

iwouldgoouttonight Sat 09-Feb-13 14:36:43

I think the Mr rabbit begging with L might still be a red herring, he only saw it briefly and maybe he saw it had an L in it but not necessarily at the beginning. So it could be Phillip Carvel, and we don't know for certain he is dead.

Definitely going to check the credits next week to see how Hyde is spelt!

<whispers> Fiderer, I googled Arby too!

iwouldgoouttonight Sat 09-Feb-13 14:37:45

Beginning not begging.

iwouldgoouttonight Sat 09-Feb-13 14:40:09

Yes they said it was the publisher.

SinisterBuggyMonth Sun 10-Feb-13 23:43:10

Peter and Jessica Rabbit, that is brilliant. If it aint in there it should be. Why do they both wear baggy leather jackets though?

Peter and Jessica rabbit! Why didn't I think of that?! Will pretend to dh that I did wink

BeQuicksieorBeDead Mon 11-Feb-13 18:59:13

Jazz I was just thinking the same thing! OH is going to be so impressed that I came up with that theory! Ha ha ha!

Rollergirl1 Tue 12-Feb-13 11:47:29

I was reading the Digital Spy forum the other day and there are some quite interesting theories on there. People were asking why did Grant give the gun to Alice? Is she in keeping with the "Rabbit" theme? Perhaps she is the key to finding Mr Rabbit, ala Alice in Wonderland? And apparently at the beginning of the first episode there was someone dressed up as a rabbit outside the comic shop. Not sure if that actually means anything though, is probably just a reference to Mr Rabbit.

Fakebook Tue 12-Feb-13 21:48:48

Hi I've been watching this from the start and wanted to ask:
In the first episode, did I imagine, or did Becky mention something about someone being in touch with the devil in Utopia part 1? When she was applying for the phd?

If that's right, then I think this story may take on a supernatural form and Mr Rabbit is satan. I found it a bit hard to believe someone, a mere mortal would be able to kill so many people in such a short time to protect his identity.

That's my theory anyway!

MadameBoolala Tue 12-Feb-13 22:47:54

Hells Bells this is grimmer than grim. I'm glad it's nearly finished.

Rollergirl1 Tue 12-Feb-13 23:18:17

Wow, that was absolutely fantastic! I'm gutted there's just one episode left.

Poor Grant. sad

crunchbag Tue 12-Feb-13 23:24:34

Is the 'assistant' Mr Rabbit?

AugustMoon Tue 12-Feb-13 23:29:17

I want to know what's in the manuscript, what RB has on his left rib (his gun is kept in his inside right pocket) why he limps / drags his feet. How did they frame grant? Will dugdale give the vaccine to the scientist - thought they'd fallen out when he tried to scarper with the results from the tests on the bit of finger!
Anyone who has any theories please tell me! I can't wait til next week!

AugustMoon Tue 12-Feb-13 23:30:06

Crunchbag, he could well be - 'I'm giving you an order'

maxmillie Tue 12-Feb-13 23:47:05

Never thought I'd say this but, poor Arby

Fiderer Wed 13-Feb-13 15:30:34

Brilliant TV again.

Dugdale - cowardly rat. Offering the children food to keep them there longer. How on earth did the police get there so quickly? And why did Ian give him the whole box?

Also wonder when Arby figured out Jessica was his sister. He was excellent in the scene in the café. I really felt for him trying to make conversation and that it was his local.

Hope Grant sits tight and tells the police he's the only one who knows where the missing manuscript pages are - only, agghh, what if they torture him?

Cannot believe next week's the last episode.

iwouldgoouttonight Tue 19-Feb-13 14:50:32

Looking forward to this tonight!! Just watched two preview clips on the channel 4 website, it's going to be good!

SinisterBuggyMonth Tue 19-Feb-13 20:36:17

I'm in, but might be C4+1. I'm liking the Mr Rabbit is satan theory, Lucifer has an L in it.

Oodsigma Tue 19-Feb-13 21:51:09

I'm recording, last one , hope it doesn't disappoint!

Rollergirl1 Tue 19-Feb-13 22:02:20

I'm almost nervous! I don't want it to end.

Rollergirl1 Tue 19-Feb-13 23:26:34

That was fucking brilliant!!

SinisterBuggyMonth Tue 19-Feb-13 23:28:51

Did not disapoint. God I wish there was more stuff on like this. I did guess where Janus was hidden half way through.

CalamityKate Tue 19-Feb-13 23:45:38

That was bloody amazing. I miss it already.

Oodsigma Fri 22-Feb-13 21:39:38

Just watched the last episode. Dh voted it best tv so far this year. I'm very pleased the last episode kept the tension to the last minute, have loved the twists and turns.
Grant was a fantastic actor and hope that's recognised some how.

Brilliant! Love the twist

Has anyone been on the c4 website for utopia?
How will you survive etc v v interesting

xmasevebundle Fri 22-Feb-13 23:40:45

Best thing on telly for a WHILE!!!

Amazing story line, had me gripped! Please bring back another series, Mr.Rabbit has Janus!!!!!!!!!!

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