Eastenders - wasn't expecting Max...(Possible spoiler alert)

(98 Posts)
MyLittleAprilSunshine Tue 25-Dec-12 21:50:26

... to be married to someone else as the person that Derek was 'paying off'. Man Derek turned pretty damn nasty towards the end of that episode. I bet everyone thought he was faking it at the end. I was grin Joey was the first one to go and make sure he was alright.

What did everyone else think of tonights episode?

dexter73 Tue 25-Dec-12 21:55:02

I thought it was quite good. Wasn't expecting Max to be married and didn't think Derek would die from a heart attack.

Fairylea Tue 25-Dec-12 21:57:19

I nearly died of boredom. Seemed so random I was really disappointed sad

MikeLitorisHasChristmasLights Tue 25-Dec-12 21:59:15

I was expecting there to be more secrets being revealed.

Also thought it would be a murder rather than a heart attack.

LynetteScavo Tue 25-Dec-12 22:00:05

What happened at the end?

(I had to go up to deal with poorly coughing DD and missed the end)

HalleLoujainHomelandWonderland Tue 25-Dec-12 22:01:15

I thought it was going to be murder but he had a heart attack and died.

QODRestYeMerryGentlemen Tue 25-Dec-12 22:01:26

I wanted him to be murrrrrr dud

Tsk. Kat made them leave him alone

Jellykat Tue 25-Dec-12 22:01:49

I thought it was good, didn't think any of that was gonna happen. Ooo err..

naturalbaby Tue 25-Dec-12 22:02:53

I knew Derek was going to die but that was bit of a lame ending.

wifey6 Tue 25-Dec-12 22:03:02

I never expected max to be secretly married. I thought it would be something like fraud.
I also thought Derek would be murdered..never thought he would die of a heart attack.
Quite a disappointing episode in my opinion.

LynetteScavo Tue 25-Dec-12 22:05:21

What I missed Derek dying? [s

CajaDeLaMemoria Tue 25-Dec-12 22:07:46

Anyone fancy explaining what happened?I'm too ill so had to go to bed and there is no tv up here sad

MyLittleAprilSunshine Tue 25-Dec-12 22:09:07

Yeah although he could technically have been poisoned, but I doubt it.

Something else comes out about Derek in a week or two I think as Carol is upset then finds out something he done and then is glad he is dead or something to that effect.

I wish he was murdered but then with the anger that everyone had for him it would've been very violent and considering kids were probably sitting up to watch it, I think it would've been too much iyswim. Also can't have 2 murders 2 years in a row, might be a bit lame in it's own right.

His wife seems a bit - dare I say it - desparate and slutty? grin

MyLittleAprilSunshine Tue 25-Dec-12 22:12:06

Kat found out Derek was lying about the recording he played to Alfie but Alfie tells her he's moved on anyway.

The person Max has been supposedly having Derek protect him from is someone he is married to that he married in Manchester who is an ex exotic dancer. Derek said he was paying her off but actually kept the money and she told Derek she was pregnant and Derek didn't tell Max.

Joey came back and said sorry to Lauren but admitted he couldn't play happy families with Derek.

I think that's the main points.

Oh and Derek started getting violent with Kat when she wouldn't leave with him so Jack and Max stepped in, Derek shouted the odds at them so Joey, Max and Jack threw him out and then he started to convulse. Suspecting no doubt he was faking it or they were just too mad they left him and after about 10 seconds he died. Joey was going to run and help him but Kat said not to and he called him Dad.

That's how it ended.

Are heart attacks that short?

LynetteScavo Tue 25-Dec-12 22:15:29


Du du du du du duddudu!

Thank you.

Tommy Tue 25-Dec-12 22:18:41

and since when have you been able to get married in your own house on Christmas day?
that's what I was bothered about.
And - why are all the men in EE so weak and pathetic? hmm

CajaDeLaMemoria Tue 25-Dec-12 22:24:01

Thank you My little April Sunshine!

I don't feel so sad about missing it now.

noisytoys Tue 25-Dec-12 22:24:33

It was good. And there is an episode tomorrow grin

Dolallytats Tue 25-Dec-12 22:28:41

Worst bit of overacting I have seen in a long time....but at least he's gone and won't be spoiling my viewing any more!!

ginmakesitallok Tue 25-Dec-12 22:29:29

Loved it ! It was fab!

MyLittleAprilSunshine Tue 25-Dec-12 22:29:51

I wondered that was pretty sure it had to be a public building of some sort i.e. a registery office, a hotel etc not an individuals house but maybe I am mistaken, it wouldn't be the first time.

Apparently that Kirsty bird is staying around grin

Man she's had waaay too much botox.

Fairylea Tue 25-Dec-12 22:33:33

I wanted Lauren to be revealed to be Dereks daughter... and then Joey would be her brother etc

Sabriel Tue 25-Dec-12 22:34:47

Just like fairylea I was bored stiff. What an anticlimax.

SinisterBuggyMonth Tue 25-Dec-12 23:00:03

Actually had an inkling halfway through, something Derek said. But am so disapointed with Max's choice of bird, I couldn't work out where her top lip started.

Rip Derek, Paul Young spliced with a bulldog. We will always remember your jaunty leather cap and jowly scowl.

NotSpartacus Tue 25-Dec-12 23:08:04

I always nearly die of horror whenever there's a storyline that means a woman has willingly had sex with Max Branning. Suspension of disbelief flies right out the window - he's grim. "Tanya, it's your fault I married wotsername". Eugh.

TwllBach Wed 26-Dec-12 00:04:39

I'm a bit late to the party - I was forced to watch Prometheus, which was a waste of two hours - and have sky plussed it. I think Lauren is a beautiful little actress you know. And Tanya looked beautiful. Abbey is irritating, Derek is/was vile, as is Kat and I would quite happily have a max/jack sandwich grin

TwllBach Wed 26-Dec-12 00:07:47

Yikes, Derek is a nutter just realised he's like my dad

MyLittleAprilSunshine Wed 26-Dec-12 14:48:22

That's never a good thing when you can associate a character to someone you know wish you didn't know

thepeanutsparent Wed 26-Dec-12 15:40:06

I'm so glad Derek has been killed off - he's really the most revolting thing ever. Am I the only person who still likes Kat? I find her oddly compelling, I just wish EE would stop rehashing the same old storyline with her and Alfie. Leave then in peace! I agree Lauren is gorgeous.

TwllBach Wed 26-Dec-12 18:46:45

Did you see the episode, boxing day maybe? Lauren was smashed and she was shouting the odds at Tanya, and she was talking about Joey and how he broke her heart, and she got the voice wobble and the lip tremble just right as she said it, so I really believed that she was barely holding it all together.

I am far too invested in this, clearly...

AmIthatTinselly Thu 27-Dec-12 02:20:43

Not a big EE fan, but that Derek bloke was just a fuckin joke. Mr Big Man.....yeah whatever!!! Good riddance/ Least convincing character ever.

If I was Max I would have sconed his pus

SinisterBuggyMonth Fri 28-Dec-12 11:24:09

I dont know what "sconning someones pus" is, but it sounds painfulo

AmIthatTinselly Fri 28-Dec-12 19:52:09


Sorry, it means punching them in the face. I don't understand why Max didn't

<although I don't watch regularly so don't know all the background>

SinisterBuggyMonth Fri 28-Dec-12 22:02:05

The background is Derek has been a twat and an arse all year from the moment he turned up at Christmas, from menacing an old lady on her deathbed, trying to stab his sisters boyfriend, shagging, beating up and stealing houses and businesses from anyone with the Surname Moon, controlling the farts of his offspring, and ruling his siblings despite he was half the height of his brothers and double the weight, and his best threat was to do the jowly scowl which half the time looked like he was checking out Max's arse.

SinisterBuggyMonth Fri 28-Dec-12 22:02:28

I really miss him though

TwllBach Sat 29-Dec-12 09:29:30

Thing is though, max is ultimately a big girls blouse isn't he? Any time he gets into a confrontation his eyes well up and he starts to sweat. That's why he relied on jack/Derek so much - he needed actual men to fight his battles for him.

Bakingnovice Sat 29-Dec-12 17:02:45

Oh can't stand Lauren. She's a dumb bitch brat who
Spoils everything. She acts like she's 10. And she looks too
Old to be playing a young person. Terrible acting. Pining for joey, with those collagen lips quivering. Really going off Tanya too. Such a frump. The whole hiding Lauren's relationship makes no sense. Max was fine with it in the end. In fact the whole Xmas episode was a joke. That weird trout pout lady turning up, Derek dying, Kat crying. Pfffttt. Times like this I miss pat, Peggy, dot, Pauline. Ee is really pitiful ATM.

SinisterBuggyMonth Sat 29-Dec-12 18:41:07

I hope Dot comes back soon. In the meantime we have make do with Cora and her creepy behive and disaproving false lashes to dispense wisdom to the young un's dispursed with sexual tension with Patrick.

ViviPru Sat 29-Dec-12 18:55:57

The whole hiding Lauren's relationship makes no sense. Max was fine with it in the end

True that.

I thought it was quite believable that Max would have married the lippy woman. Wasn't she in the car when Derek dropped Max off way back when he first came back when he found out Tanya had cancer? I really CBA with a tug of war between her and Tanya though. It's simply not feasible that she would hold any appeal whatsoever for Max now. They can't even play the 'chemistry' card, as that's always been exclusively Tanya's hold over Max.

Oh and for those wondering about getting married in your house, that's a load of old nonsense. Theoretically it IS possible if you pay the local registrars around £1500 for a venue license and agree to offering your living room to the public as a readily accessible wedding venue available at all times, oh and assuming you have undergone and passed a fire safety risk assessment, have adequate disabled access, and the local planning authority is happy that your property has the relevant permissions...

Bakingnovice Sat 29-Dec-12 23:47:21

Both Tanya's dresses were horrid. Could they have made her look any worse!

Odd now England are so diffenremt to Scotland to be married at home. Simple to do here. I did it. Easy peasy.

VeganCow Sun 30-Dec-12 12:43:32

They weren't getting married in the actual house, weren't they all about to go out to the square when that woman turned up?
The Lauren and Joey thing, I thing Tanya had other reasons other than the wrath of Max, for keeping it from him..heard somewhere that Joey is really Dereks from when he raped her, so she wouldn't want her own daughter and son to be together but obv couldn't tell Max that.

ViviPru Sun 30-Dec-12 12:52:10

Yeah that's right, Vegan. Also nonsense. In England, a legal marriage can only take place in a permanent structure with a fixed roof and foundations that is licensed for marriage. Janine's marriage wasn't actually legal.

MrsTomHardy Sun 30-Dec-12 12:58:58

So bored of EE....yet I still watch it blush

Gumby Sun 30-Dec-12 13:02:05

Is Tanya still meant to be leaving?

TwllBach Sun 30-Dec-12 13:29:39

Yeah I heard that Tanya was supposed to be leaving at Christmas too. Maybe they don't come back from Spain? Maybe Tanya decides its not worth chancing it with Kirsty and max and convinces him to stay. They send for Oscar but Lauren and abbey choose to stay?

ViviPru Sun 30-Dec-12 16:57:39

NoooooooOOO sad I heard she was leaving but the reality of no Tanya & Max is too much to bear. They're my favourite and my best.

whatkungfuthat Sun 30-Dec-12 17:27:44

ViviPru thank you, I was sure that Derek mentioned a woman being in the car when Max came back as I thought I remembered a conversation about what they were going to do about her. I had read somewhere that Max had killed someone in a car accident and was paying the family, which serves me right for reading spoilers! I did feel a bit sorry for Kat on Xmas day as she looked really unhappy and trapped with Derek. Where is she staying now? Roxy is wrong for Alfie too.

TwllBach Sun 30-Dec-12 17:32:59

Nooo roxy and Alfie would be lovely, but he will never get over Kat.

Strangely, I am warming to Michael too.

ViviPru Sun 30-Dec-12 20:35:08

Oooh Ooh - Ladies Of Eastenders - how are you all feeling about Denise and Ian getting together then? Obviously, he's beyond repugnant - he makes me feel like I'm about to do sick in my mouth when he smiles whimsically - but will it be entertaining? Or just silly and unbearable?

TwllBach Sun 30-Dec-12 21:04:38

Is it definitely going to happen then? I had hoped I was imagining things.

I always think she has a lovely figure. She's wasted on Ian.

Bakingnovice Sun 30-Dec-12 21:21:35

I like Denise. Hope Tanya does go. I'm sick of every Xmas storyline being about a big secret involving her Lauren and max!

Denise and Ian is not believable. Loved seeing Kat miserable. She's been a right little tart and deserves it. Find it very very unsettling how they always link her tartness and promiscuity back to her being abused.

ViviPru Sun 30-Dec-12 21:45:07

Yeah Denise needs a hotty. I'm surprised they haven't gone down the Denise/Kim/Ray love triangle route...

chipstick10 Sun 30-Dec-12 23:45:04

Cora has a lovely head of hair for a very much older woman.

perceptionInaPearTree Sun 30-Dec-12 23:53:22

Kat was never 'promiscuous' when she met Alfie - she was always portrayed as vulnerable and in need of looking after then. I hate what they have done to Kat & Alfie.

MildredIsMyAlterEgo Sun 30-Dec-12 23:58:15

Denise and Alfie would be good smile

I think Denise moves in with Ian soon.

dexter73 Mon 31-Dec-12 09:13:59

Isn't Denise going to have a fling with Ray?

ImKateandsoismywife Mon 31-Dec-12 10:32:35

I was really confused by Derek's head of the family thing and going on about tradition. No one had even heard of him a few months ago and I thought he hadn't even met Lauren and Abby before so thats at least 17 years he's been out of the picture. Yet somehow he sits at the top of the table at christmas dinner every year confused

ViviPru Mon 31-Dec-12 11:40:26

Yes I thought that was weak writing, ImKate

dexter and gregs is that something you've heard somewhere?

dexter73 Mon 31-Dec-12 12:45:29

I saw it on digital spy.

dexter73 Mon 31-Dec-12 12:47:38
Bakingnovice Mon 31-Dec-12 23:08:04

I agree. They'd not even mentioned Derek until last Xmas and he's going on about traditions. Also why is alive saying she's got no one and no home? She only moved to Albert sq a few months ago. Why doesn't she go live with her mum?

chocbuttons Tue 01-Jan-13 18:16:08

yes ithought the same thing bout alice. also after all phils fuss who was looking after lexie when they were all in tjhe vic new years eve?

perceptionInaPearTree Tue 01-Jan-13 18:29:15

Why does Eastenders always have to come up with such grim storylines involving babies? The Phil/Lola/Lexie thing makes me uncomfortable.

soggycrockonboosh Tue 01-Jan-13 22:41:21

Dereks death was shite! That arsewipe should have been murdered!
Anyone else think Max's second wife looks a lot like a younger Stephanie Beacham? What a ridiculous storyline. Another crap christmas for the Brannings. Why has Abs dyed her ginger locks to blonde?

TwllBach Tue 01-Jan-13 23:02:37

I really don't get the Phil/Lola/lexi thing At All. What exactly is he trying to do???

alemci Tue 01-Jan-13 23:14:59

also who was looking after Lexi on new years eve. so much for doing everything by the book according to boiled egg Phil

SinisterBuggyMonth Tue 01-Jan-13 23:15:15

Oh flip is 2013 going to be the year of uncomfortable couples on EE? Roxy and Alfie, Denise and Ian and now it looks like Uncle Masood will cop off with Cheryl Cole.

Well zainab is leaving.

I agree, I don't like the lexi story either.

perceptionInaPearTree Wed 02-Jan-13 12:11:38

The impression I get is that Phil is trying to make sure Lexi grows up as part of the Mitchell clan as she is Ben's daughter. Ben's life didn't turn out very well so far, Phil's attempts to make Jamie a Mitchell backfired and he lost his daughter Louise. So now he has another chance with Lexie.

EllieArroway Wed 02-Jan-13 14:19:04

it looks like Uncle Masood will cop off with Cheryl Cole

Exactly what I was thinking last night.

Who do we think Sharon accepted, then?


TwllBach Wed 02-Jan-13 17:40:29

Who in their right minds would even look at Phil??

I meant someone who looked vaguely like jack at a wedding a while ago. I found it extremely exciting grin

Bakingnovice Wed 02-Jan-13 18:09:46

I agree. Hate the Lexie Lola story. For a start her baby would not have snatched so callously by sw. Then for lexi to be given to Phil! Ridic. And Phil is being a monster. And who had Lexie on my eve? And who had Scarlett and Amy?

And as if jack would go for broad back Sharon. Please! Hate the Lauren/ joey story too. Last month it was the new big explosive story. Now it's nothing. Same with Max's wife. It's not realistic she would get a Job in the pub and live in the b&b. Denise should've been paired with jack.

HeadfirstForAMistletoeKiss Fri 04-Jan-13 19:01:10

There was some vague reference to Jean hosting a toddler party for all the nippers.

soggycrockonboosh Fri 04-Jan-13 21:12:34

Max is a disgusting slimeball. What a weak, pathetic excuse of a man he is.

Junebugjr Fri 04-Jan-13 21:17:55

Argh, god knows what EE is doing setting up characters like Max and Sharon as sex bombs everyone is after. As if the delicious jack would even look at shazza and her vanilla icecream colour hair, purrlease...
I'm also irrationally angry that max is humping around again too <sad>

Ooh whose feet out of the taxi?

EllieArroway Fri 04-Jan-13 21:27:02

There's no way Jack would fall madly in love with Sharon hmm EastEnders writers have always had this strange idea that she's some kind of sex goddess.

I now officially fancy AJ just as much as I do Masood. I want them both. Is that bad?

HeadfirstForAMistletoeKiss Fri 04-Jan-13 22:22:16

AJ and Masood are both gorgeous. Much better looking than the Brannings or any Mitchell that ever set foot in the square!

SinisterBuggyMonth Fri 04-Jan-13 23:58:40

Oh why wont that Kirsty woman just FUCK OFFFFFFF?!

Is every duf duf going to be about her not fucking off now?

I love Joey. Lovely looking fella.

perceptionreality Sat 05-Jan-13 00:02:20

Kirsty is so annoying - awful awful character. Plus whoever put fillers in her top lip needs shooting.

MildredIsMyAlterEgo Sat 05-Jan-13 12:52:48

Kirsty is so annoying - awful awful character. Plus whoever put fillers in her top lip needs shooting.* yy and her hairdresser shock

ViviPru Sat 05-Jan-13 16:51:14

about her not fucking off

this amuses me grin

hattymattie Sat 05-Jan-13 17:14:33

I can't believe Max shagged Kirsty - has he no self-control at all - it's not possible!!! Denise and Ian - I agree is totally unbelievable and I also hate the Sharon:Jack thing. Jack inspite of everything is a good looking bloke and I cannot for the life of me see why every male is attracted by Sharon. Maybe it's a man thing.

Maybe I'm taking this much too seriously;grin

EllieArroway Sat 05-Jan-13 17:22:19

I can't stand Kirsty either - but I do think the actress who plays her is very good. She's going to make a fantastic bunny boiler (if that's where this is going).

Denise & Ian. Bloody ridiculous. Denise is a really beautiful, classy woman & I think she and Ray were made for each other. Have always thought that.

I love AJ. And Masood. I don't think I've mentioned that for at least 10 minutes <swoon>

perceptionreality Sat 05-Jan-13 20:34:24

Denise and Kim are about the only likable characters on EE oh and Masood.

Bakingnovice Sat 05-Jan-13 22:15:12

I agree with everyone. What is it about Sharon? She was hideous in the 80s and she's hideous now. Very weird proportions. Ginormous back and size six legs.

Also ray is not suited to Kim. Sorry but it's true. He should be with Denise. She's his type. Kim should be with someone like fatboy.

Ok re Masood and aj. Purleeeease tell me you are all joking. They are gross creatures! Masood has a good personality but is not good looking. And aj is vile. Slimy, skinny and sooo silly with that stupid single earphone in his ear.

perceptionreality Sat 05-Jan-13 22:21:22

Sharon isn't hideous - that's a bit mean. I think men like her because of her kind/caring nature...

alemci Sat 05-Jan-13 22:23:17

her voice is so annoying and she reminds me of Miss Piggy. horrible clothes. I agree that Jack wouldn't be interested. isn't he a bit younger than her.

Bakingnovice Sat 05-Jan-13 22:23:35

But the hair, the shifty eyes, the blazers!!! They are hideous. But I agree that she's an honest caring character. Oh, and I know this is mean but Denny is bloody annoying.

TwllBach Sat 05-Jan-13 22:29:20

I thought Sharon was like 50? Same age as Phil or thereabouts. I only really thought jack was late 30s.

SinisterBuggyMonth Sun 06-Jan-13 00:19:11

To be fair I spent years wanting Pat to fuck off when she joined EE and was stalking Pete. Its was only when Frank turned up she grew on me.

But yes - Boxing Day - Kirsty has not fucked off yet despite Max telling her to.

27th Dec - Kirsty has not fucked off yet despite Tanya telling her to.

New years eve - Kirsty has not fucked off yet and now has a job as a barmaid, that mainly consists of innapropriate groping of the boss infront of his love interest.

New Years Day - Kirsty is not spotted for all of 40 minutes and its naturally assumed by all shes finally fucked off. She hasn't.

Dereks funeral - Kirsty is told by Carol to fuck off. Instead she gets a taxi to gatecrash the funeral where pretty much everyone bar the vicar has told her to Fuck off. She doesn't. Max gets his leg over.

EllieArroway Sun 06-Jan-13 08:42:47

At least Sharon seems to have dropped that "cutie pie", hair ruffling crap with Denny. You can tell she's never been within 20ft of a real child 'cos no mum talks like that 24 hours a day, if ever.

Also - would Jack have gotten over Ronnie (supposedly the love of his life) this quickly? Quickly enough to want to marry someone else? Hmmmm.

And yes, Kim and Ray - I have never bought into that relationship. Although I do love Kim loads.

MildredIsMyAlterEgo Sun 06-Jan-13 09:11:28

Don't Ray and Denise get it on soon? I'm sure I read something in my mum's tv rag the other week...?

Jack is only ever interested in women with the Mitchell surname - that's probably why he's with Sharon now, she's the only one left (unless Peggy returns) grin

Bakingnovice Sun 06-Jan-13 18:26:54

Oh ffs. Just watched the new years day episode. What a ridic episode. Cheryl cole does a runner to..... The bench outside zainabs house in the square. Phil is late to the church, arrives within minutes, is back in the square, then back again. Ordinarily this would take at least 45 minutes.

Alfie and roxy is wrong wrong wrong. I might even have to stop watching if it carries on like this.

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