anyone talking about masterchef-the professionals?

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If not then consider this the start of the thread.

I think the wrong person went out last night. Poor girl, the guy they chose over her really got in by the skin of his teeth!

MsNobodyAgain Wed 21-Nov-12 13:01:24

There was a thread but I think it died a death.

I agree about last night. No wonder he looked haggard and worried, he should be out! I think he got through purely on the fact Michel liked his biscuits, even though they were the wrong shape.

WingDefence Wed 21-Nov-12 13:02:22

I've caught up with them all in the past couple of days (I hadn't realised it had started sad) so I'm completely confused as to who is who now. Was there just the one girl in this week's starting line-up? In that case, was it Nat with the tattoos and black spiky hair? Yes, she definitely should have gone through.at this rate there will be not one woman in the semis.

WingDefence Wed 21-Nov-12 13:03:02

Loved the four men who got through in previous weeks though.

sausagesandwich34 Wed 21-Nov-12 13:05:31

I'm still recovering from watching Simon prepare that lobster last week!

boak!

WingDefence Wed 21-Nov-12 13:14:09

Was he the guy who ended up with green gunk ll over his hands? Yuck.

I found the weirdly over-tanned man who completely decimated the duck (I think) far worse. Can't remember his name but even when it went completely wrong, he had a strange smile on his face.

MsNobodyAgain Wed 21-Nov-12 13:16:53

Monica's face was a picture at the duck challenge. A couple of them hacked at it like their lives depended on it and made a total balls up. I'm glad the creepy fella went out (Lee?). He was just strange.

sausagesandwich34 Wed 21-Nov-12 13:23:34

I love Monica but I do find the faces they all pull at each other sometimes a bit odd

and I still think we should adopt the australian masterchef format & presenters

yes nat-thats it-I thought she was great, her attitude was "right" too. I really dont understand their choices at all.

I'm a bit confused as to whos who too-whats the next stage? we have had one lot of semi finals haven't we?

WingDefence Wed 21-Nov-12 14:12:15

There have been two weeks worth now so four men have gone through.

On the Radio Times site there is a list of the four through so far and the dishes they have made.

Unusually, I'd be happy (so far) for any of them to win.

WingDefence Wed 21-Nov-12 14:14:20

Oh this is a funny article on the RT site about the number of ballotines that have been made so far. I had noticed that too!

MsNobodyAgain Wed 21-Nov-12 15:11:38

Even DD, who is 9, said "why do they keep doing stuff all round like a big sausage?"

WingDefence Wed 21-Nov-12 17:36:12

I wonder how easy they are to make? and whether Sainsburys Basics cling film would do the job

I don't know if they are hard-I might have a go one day.

Marking Spot.
Another Nat Was Robbed flag waver here!

TitHead Wed 21-Nov-12 20:04:45

I absolutley love masterchef. I know struggle not to burst in to the buttery base song everytime I see Greg Wallace though.

NotAnotherPackedLunch Wed 21-Nov-12 20:09:06

Do you think they use other clues as to how dedicated the chefs are, such as the number of years since they left the kitchen and got some daylight and fresh air? The chefs with the greyest skin and biggest shadows under their eyes always seem to get through.

MsNobodyAgain Wed 21-Nov-12 21:23:05

I was thinking that until the 21 year old did so well. Don't think he will win though.

Some of the older chefs have fallen into bad habits.

<wonders about buttery base song>

If you haven't seen it, you need the buttery biscuit base song in your life here

I quite wanted the Italian to stay in. Not because he particularly cook mind you...

MsNobodyAgain Wed 21-Nov-12 22:28:30

Thanks Twelve. Very entertaining grin. I am just off to bed and I know that song is going to haunt me all night.

John Torrode is on Australian Masterchef tomorrow if anyone watches it by the way.

WingDefence Thu 22-Nov-12 07:52:20

Me too about the song - which I have actually bought on iTunes in the past! blush

Greg definitely said buttery last night and there are other times he pulls those funny faces that remind me of the middle section of the song's video grin

Glad the 21yo got through but I wasn't as blown away by any of last nights's lot as I was with the 4 who are already through.

I quite wanted the Italian to stay in

Me too. Very pleasing to the eye! And I don't care if that's not the point!! grin

comixminx Thu 22-Nov-12 09:52:53

The thing that I keep thinking when seeing Greg W is Historical Masterchef...

I also think Nat wuz robbed. Yes, I do think that means no women at all remain now.

TitHead Thu 22-Nov-12 10:30:24

What did you all think of last nights decision then? It was definatley the right one for me. -- Still singing buttery biscuit base (wobble wobble wobble)--

MsNobodyAgain Thu 22-Nov-12 12:28:09

Right decision in my opinion although I think the other chap should be very thankful that he got away with that deconstructed paella crap. It looked awful. And he made a mess of the fish soup - soup on a plate confused.

I think Monica would have thrown it at him.

I liked Nat...

I think that most of Michel Roux jnr's fine dining classics,much as I adore him, are all a bit ewww- am thinking particularly of the fish livers....

Lottapianos Thu 22-Nov-12 13:39:35

Loved Nat too - she would have gone far and seemed really lovely.

The beef kidney task almost made me hurl.

Absolutely love Monica.

The Italian bloke was v nice but not as nice as Michel who is just yum wink

GetorfsaMotherfuckingMorrisMan Thu 22-Nov-12 13:54:14

I love buttery biscuit base.

I wonder who in the name of arse would want to eat beef kidney. And the look of all that fat they had to prise off <gip>

Monica is brilliant - her expressions are fantastic.

And I want to take Michel home.

argh I missed last nights because of my poorly 10m old. I was up and downstairs like a bloody rabbit all evening.

May try and catch up with it now before school run time.

Lottapianos Thu 22-Nov-12 13:59:02

'And I want to take Michel home'

Well that's just adorable GetOrf but ya can't 'ave 'im! He's mine! <rolls up sleeves and squares up>

All you Michel luvvers, have a peek on iPlayer, there is a BBC4 doc he did called The Original Masterchef or something, about Escoffier. Lots of Michel wandering around Paris...

MsNobodyAgain Thu 22-Nov-12 14:19:28

MaryAnn I agree re Michels classics. But I am sure I wouldn't like them because I have a palate more suited to M&S meals for one than proper good cuisine - you don't get a lot of that where I live anyway.

yeah loads of ballotines & lots of samphire on the go this season. The girls aren't doing very well at all thus far this year are they?

They have 4 weeks of heats and quarter finals. I think they go from 10 contestants to 4 (or is it 2) in a week? How many are left after the critics tonight?

I have never seen a beef kidney before - WOW! How can it function in all that fat?

Love love love Monica - love to see them keep her throughout the show. Her facial expressions are a hoot - love the visual conversations her & Greg have through the skills tests. I sit there raising eyebrows and sucking teeth alongside her. But when she praises the chefs they nearly burst with delight - it's sweet.

She must be the worlds most famous person of Samoan descent (at the moment anyway)?

chummymummy Thu 22-Nov-12 14:42:42

I love their facial expressions, when they look at each other its like they are playing facial rock,paper and scissors.

Those kidneys uuuuuurgh, especially the ones with the blood running into the kidneys ..

just watched it. boak that beef kidney looked vile.

I quite fancy the fish stew, yummy.

I quite fancy Michel, yummy.

I agree Michel is wonderful - so stern and demanding, yet sweet, kind and empathetic. Intelligent, perceptive AND he is of course an uber talent in the kitchen! Wow - what a combo!

GetorfsaMotherfuckingMorrisMan Thu 22-Nov-12 16:14:33

Where do the bloody cows get all that fat from? They only eat grass.

I am now showing my ignorance of animal husbandry evidently.

MarinaIvy Thu 22-Nov-12 16:16:45

So, HipHop, what you're saying is that Michel looks as good as he cooks? I concur.

I think the wrong one got through last night. That French guy shouldn't have been forgiven - ever - for doing so badly in classical dishes. These guys all know what to expect from this contest, and anybody who can get from being accepted onto the show to this stage without spending every waking hour practicing classic recipes and techniques, shouldn't have got this far.

In the past (not sure if I mean Professionals or standard), they sometimes would chuck out more than the allotted number because neither chef lived up to their standard, or, occasionally, keep more than they were supposed to, because both candidates deserved another shot. We liked that - was evidence that this wasn't just another stupid reality show, but that real merit played an important part.

There are times in this series when I'm sure Monica wouldn't have allowed somebody to go through and cook for Michel, but must have been overruled by the suits. I find that vastly disappointing.

MarinaIvy Thu 22-Nov-12 16:18:31

PS - whoever reminded me of that Buttery Biscuit Base song is going to get SUCH a spanking!

He's not my 'type' in the looks dept AT ALL, however he has won me over with his personality and nature. I would, I really would.

Note to selves - its sable (not butter biscuit base you amateurs smile )

re cow fat - I know, what are they feeding them????? I've always been amazed how something eating just grass and water can grow into a cow or a horse! Incredible.

Didn't you love how Monica says "we use the fat - render it down to roast potatoes in etc" - sign of a good chef - use it all!

stargirl1701 Thu 22-Nov-12 17:05:55

I couldn't believe the size of that beef kidney...do they have 2 like us?

GetorfsaMotherfuckingMorrisMan Thu 22-Nov-12 18:51:36

I don't know - under all that revolting fat the kidney is quite small, compared to the size of a ruddy great cow. Perhaps they have 4, they have 4 stomachs.

Where's james herriot.

comixminx Thu 22-Nov-12 21:31:43

The fat round the beef kidney is what you get suet from...

comi are you Monica? grin

comixminx Thu 22-Nov-12 22:13:00

Hah! I couldn't do her job, I know.

Gracelo Fri 23-Nov-12 09:25:58

All that fat is needed to protect the kidneys, they are close to the ribs in cows.

That was a very uninspiring lot last night, I thought.

I agree - for supposed professional chefs the standard has not been great this week. What will next week bring us?

Gracelo Fri 23-Nov-12 09:46:43

It annoys me when good people go out who would have got through easily in a weak group like the one they had this week but I suppose that's just down to luck...

Indeed - but think to yourself would they have won? And if you think probably not, then it's easier to let go.

Friday nights feel so empty now after 4 nights of MCP on the trot.

WickedGirl Fri 23-Nov-12 14:27:46

I love Monica and Greg together.....they make me laugh

Michel seems lovely

TitHead Fri 23-Nov-12 15:36:00

I completley agree Hiphop I miss it on a friday. I think michel is lovely but Monica scares the Bejesus out of me. Still think she is great though

I thought it was a very poor show last night, burnt food, uncooked food, badly presented food, stupid mistakes. I'm glad I haven't eaten in any those places.

glad the guy who beat nat has gone out now though-he should have gone 3 rounds ago.

I hate that it's only on Monday to thursday.

so is next week the semis?

oh and i just googled...cows have 2 kidneys.

Idontknowhowtohelpher Fri 23-Nov-12 22:05:24

Next week is the last week of heats - last chance to get a woman into the semis.

stargirl1701 Fri 23-Nov-12 23:38:26

Thank you fish grin

Kidneys do strike me as an even number kind of organ. I wonder if any mammals (for starters) have just one kidney?

My sister has just one kidney - the other never functioned and was eventually removed (post PG). I think that is why we have 2 - one for backup.

YAY a woman got through last night - Keri seems strangely familiar to me. I think I may have known her 15 years or so ago .................. But I can't think where from. It's going to bug me until I remember.

Hope she survives the week.

yay !

stargirl1701 Wed 28-Nov-12 20:11:13

Ewwww! Sea urchin. No. I couldn't eat those. Not even made by Monica!!! smile

TitHead Wed 28-Nov-12 20:21:14

They don't luck appertising at all do they, very slimely looking certainly don't think I want the raw yuck.

My god, Urchin carnage tonight!

Gracelo Wed 28-Nov-12 20:24:17

I think I would at least try them. It feels like a slightly unfair test to have something so unusual.

MsNobodyAgain Wed 28-Nov-12 20:51:52

Very unfair test, even if they are meant to be professionals. Sea urchins?!! Come on.

Boo!

Minimammoth Thu 29-Nov-12 02:20:20

Another Boo ,bad form I say.
Another a little in love with Michel. < could be a nightmare to live with though>

Gracelo Thu 29-Nov-12 08:37:34

Olly (sp?) might be my favourite this year but I have missed one week entirely so can't really judge all the others. I like Keri too.
What did Greg say to Michel on Tuesday night during the judging? "When the juicy meets meat and the fruity meets juicy..." something like it. I might have to watch it on iPlayer again, it sounded like straight out of Historical Masterchef.

LaVolcan Thu 29-Nov-12 09:36:13

It definitely seemed an unfair test. Urghh - who would eat that?

The one with the souffle crepe the other day seemed reasonable, although non of that batch of candidates did sparklingly well. As Monica said, a chef should know how to make a souffle.

WingDefence Thu 29-Nov-12 10:16:40

One thing that bugs me every time is the bit at the start - what is that sort of chicken-shaped cover that they take off the roast chicken? Any ideas - I've never seen one before!

Agree that the sea urchin test was grim. I think they must get hints on some of these because otherwise how would you know to take the mouth out first and that the orangey-bit is the flesh you want if you've never seen one before?

Monica gave the hint that the flavour was like oyster but that would help with any dressing/salad flavour but she doesn't (on screen) say anything about the inside of it.

MsNobodyAgain Thu 29-Nov-12 10:31:18

I may be wrong, but it could be a clay cooking method. I saw something similar on Masterchef Australia. They dug for clay, cleaned it and moulded it round the meat they were going to cook, then cracked it apart when done. Seemed a bit of a faff to me really.

Gregs face on the sea urchin test told me he hated every single mouthful. Was quite amusing.

think that chicken is roasted in a salt dough covering

Gracelo Thu 29-Nov-12 10:51:34

I think it's one of those salt crust chicken

Gracelo Thu 29-Nov-12 10:53:02

Doh, it took me so long to figure out how to do links that MaryAnnSingleton beat me to it.

egusta Thu 29-Nov-12 11:07:19

Greg annoys me most nights, but really annoyed me last night with the sea urchins. he said he had never had them, had certainly never cooked them then was scathing of the chefs when they struggled.

I like Michel alot. He is judging the comp, but he is compassionate, always tries to say something encouraging, and seems to really want to help the chefs to produce a good meal.

HipHopToDude Thu 29-Nov-12 11:18:59

I enjoyed the sea urchins - none of them had worked with them before so it wasn't unfair at all. Perfect test of chef skills really - apply knowledge & skills to the unknown and see what you can do. Surely that is the whole point of striving to be a top chef? How did anyone actually know how to eat and prepare any food - at some point everyone did it the FIRST TIME.

You only need a bit of knowledge re shellfish etc to know you eat the clean looking bits and get rid of the black stuff/organs/poo etc.

My only experience with sea urchins is pulling horrible face as my neighbour picked them up from the sea and ate them - just like that!

Isn't the chicken thing a chicken brick? As seen on MN in the past I'm sure smile

Loved the artichoke classic!

WingDefence Thu 29-Nov-12 20:07:23

Thanks all for the chicken answers smile <wishes there was a roast chicken icon>

I have a slight problem with Sam's odd beard and wannabe-footballer/1D member haircut grin

Gracelo Thu 29-Nov-12 20:26:48

Geee yes, Sam's facial hair is disturbing.
What is it with all those plates with bits and pieces of food scattered over them?

Arf at Greg saying "duck turning into desert, yum"
Reminds me of friends' Joey eating the trifle "beef good, custard good, what's not to like?'

WingDefence Thu 29-Nov-12 20:49:54

I loved Michel saying 'we like girly love'! wink grin

WingDefence Thu 29-Nov-12 21:19:59

Wow, a few disasters there tonight! Nail-biting stuff grin

So sad to lose Allen but the right decision was made based on the dishes served tonight.

I could wolf down Keri's lamb dish. Yum yum.

Gracelo Fri 30-Nov-12 10:30:07

Snail biting even. Ewwwwww, I would have tried the urchin but I draw the line at eating snails.
Glad Olly and Keri went through. I'd have fought Greg over that pudding, both puddings actually.

HipHopToDude Fri 30-Nov-12 11:20:43

oooh I was out last night so I get to watch MC on a Friday - how very special!!

MsNobodyAgain Fri 30-Nov-12 11:25:53

I always enjoy the food critic episodes. Although who is that idiot with the Three Muskateer type beard? I can't take to him at all. Charles Campion seems nice though.

oh Jay Rayner- can't be doing with him or Charles Campion- still,at least they don't have the sourpuss woman from previous years

MsNobodyAgain Fri 30-Nov-12 12:08:50

That's it. Jay Rayner is a knob.

The sourpuss - do you mean the dark haired woman with a very down-turned mouth? She was awful. Reminded me of Liz Jones.

yes- Kate Spicer

strictlycaballine Fri 30-Nov-12 14:28:33

I am preparing baked beans three ways tonight wink

notnowbernard Fri 30-Nov-12 14:35:24

Am loving this series too

However (apologies if this has been done already), WHERE are all the female chefs?!

It's a disgrace, I feel like firing off a ranty email to the BBC about it. There should be some sort of positive discrimination in the application process... last week just 1 woman of the 10 chefs

oooh it's back on tonight.

A ballotine of pork and herbs, fondant style potatoes (except cut into lengths and deep fried), ouef du hen, and petit pois for dinner tonight smile

(egg, chips, peas and sausage)

LaVolcan Mon 03-Dec-12 16:32:08

Like it fishandlilacs - ballotine of pork and herbs and pommes puree for me.

MsNobodyAgain Mon 03-Dec-12 16:40:49

grin fishandlilacs

Any 'jus' or 'reduction' with yours LaVolcan?

YouCanBe Mon 03-Dec-12 16:47:06

Jay Rayner is clearly a wanker who is a food critic purely to bitch. Charles Campion on the other hand clearly likes to eat. I quite like the other two critics too. I had forgotten Kate Spicer from last year, she was miserable wasn't she?

I enjoy saying sarcastic things to the television about Mr Rayner trying to be a musketeer when he is on screen. blush

YouCanBe Mon 03-Dec-12 16:47:06

Jay Rayner is clearly a wanker who is a food critic purely to bitch. Charles Campion on the other hand clearly likes to eat. I quite like the other two critics too. I had forgotten Kate Spicer from last year, she was miserable wasn't she?

I enjoy saying sarcastic things to the television about Mr Rayner trying to be a musketeer when he is on screen. blush

YouCanBe Mon 03-Dec-12 16:47:53

Oops.

his sister was in the yr below me at art school grin

GetorfsaMotherfuckingMorrisMan Mon 03-Dec-12 16:59:36

no!

I love jay rayner. I think he is great. His reviews in the observer are really good imo.

Did you know his mum is claire rayner?

MsNobodyAgain Mon 03-Dec-12 17:01:07

Jays or Charles sister?

(I so know I am missing apostrophes or whatever above but you know what I mean)

MsNobodyAgain Mon 03-Dec-12 17:02:14

shock. I never knew that about his mum being Claire Rayner.

LaVolcan Mon 03-Dec-12 17:07:30

reduction with my pommes puree (if that is what gravy is).

Kate Spicer: she the person who was served up with an oyster on top of something last year and said that it looked like a big bogey? I didn't know her name but now always think of her as the 'big bogey'.

YouCanBe Mon 03-Dec-12 17:12:46

I thought last week was a strong week but then so many went to pieces at the last challenge. It was a shock!
Looking forward to this week. smile

Jay Rayner's sister,Amanda

GetorfsaMotherfuckingMorrisMan Mon 03-Dec-12 20:12:21

Yes, I found out last week that (a) Claire Rayner is Jay's mum and (b) she's dead, bless her.

Poor Karl looks like he may top himself,.but wtf was his presentation all about.
Highpraise for the crab salad indeed.

MsNobodyAgain Mon 03-Dec-12 21:12:24

I think Karl was a bit deluded, thought he knew best but his plate was a mess.

Some great plates from the others though.

I never knew claire rayner was dead, agony aunt of my childhood sad

I never knew she was jay rayners Mum.

I like jay rayner. He's not attractive though is he? My husband described him as doing the best with what he had smile

The competition is really hotting up now, it really could be anyone. I like Olli and Keri, but i think Olli's inexperience with probably get him out this week. He was close to the knuckle last night. I like Keri because its good to have at least one woman and her food looks yum!

I absolutely love MC the professionals. Have just watched latest episode via iplayer. Is it just me, or do a lot of the boys look a bit grubby & unwashed?

Minimammoth Tue 04-Dec-12 20:10:42

Keri and Olli are fave in the mammoth household

Ohh, Marcus is HARSH!

Why does Aaron keep saying oui instead of yes? He's not French or in a French restaurant under a French chef. Makes.him sound like a dick

I'm guessing his kitchen he normally works in uses French. I think he's terrified too - I would be!

herbaceous Tue 04-Dec-12 20:33:51

Ooh I've found my spiritual home! Haven't missed an episode of this series. Which I realise is tragic.

I love love Oli. Hes so cute and modest. But think he's about to go.

herbaceous Tue 04-Dec-12 20:36:27

Also, thus head-to-head bit seems an unfair way of whittling them down. If two strong people are together and one has to go, they could have been better than the winner of a weak pair.

herbaceous Tue 04-Dec-12 20:58:50

Then again, yay!

I agree, and how do they decide who's head to head with who.

Yay Ollie.

James and Ross tomorrow, i can't remember a single dish Ross has done.

MsNobodyAgain Tue 04-Dec-12 21:30:54

Right result tonight, but they were both good for their ages. <patronising>

The guy that is keen on foraging is probably going through tomorrow.

herbaceous Tue 04-Dec-12 22:03:05

Re appropriate pairings, maybe they should put the experimenters together, the classical types together, etc, then you're judging like with like. Seems fairer...

Yeah i think James will go through if he cooks like he did when he did the crab, mind you he has presented them with some real failures, remember the black elder and the dish with the pig nuts?

But Ross has failed to enter my radar at all. No idea what hebcooks like.

May be they did a draw of names to pair them up. That would be fairest at this stage.

Remotecontrolduck Tue 04-Dec-12 23:36:47

Fishandlilacs- Ross did the pignuts, not James!

James is going to win it I think

I like the foraging guy - hooray for Olli -he is sweet. I like Marcus Wareing - stern but fair.

WingDefence Wed 05-Dec-12 10:50:59

I like Ross but only because he looks like Matt Bellamy from Muse blush

Shame to lose Karl and Aaron but they are putting through the right people each time based on the dishes. Both of them went out with vaguely experimental dishes so I wonder if they are really looking for a classical chef this year? Will that bode well for James - didn't the critics moan about his main course for overdoing the foraging?

I've looked through a few of the Radio Times lists of the dishes the semi-finalists have cooked and couldn't find the pignuts dish so it wasn't James, Karl, Ollie or Ross. (I don't have time to look through the other four.) it might have been someone who has already gone out?

Marcus was the most terrifying chef I've ever seen on MC - I was cringing obo both contestants in his kitchen. Glad Ollie went through - he really nailed it.

oooh no-sorry I thought it was james, got the foraging thing mixed up.

cant wait for tonight smile

Marcus Wareing scares me! I can't imagine Michel Roux Jr or Raymond Blanc being like that. I'm not talking necessarily about Marcus now, but so many British chefs swear far too much, are too shouty, big-headed and belittling. You can be passionate about what you do without being a knob. No need for it.

Ooh, just realised that tonight's episode is at Midsummer House, my best friend is taking me there in the New Year for my belated Christmas present. I have never been to a Michelin restaurant before! I want James to do well, but I like Ross too.

greenhill Wed 05-Dec-12 14:02:56

Are you all watching it "live"as it happens?

I'm a few episodes behind and watching it on iPlayer on my iPad and can't see what happens at the end of some of the episodes, as some of them are returning to the beginning and missing off the end e.g. An hour long episode sometimes shows the first half twice...so I can't see the judging. It is frustrating.

WingDefence Wed 05-Dec-12 14:26:36

greenhill I watched Monday's and last night's on my iPad this morning and didn't have that problem. I'm out tonight so will either watch it late or tomorrow on my iPad again.

Probably best to delete the app and reinstall?

Jux Wed 05-Dec-12 14:52:15

Marcus Warng scares me too! I was impressed that both lads coped so well under is stern, eagle-like gaze. It would have sent me gibberng out the back door!

Like Ollie and glad he got through. I missed all the shows this week except last nightt's, so have little idea who is through and who anyone is. Will google or iPlayer to catch up.

I have eaten sea urchin, many times. It is beyond delicious and Greg's a wuss!

I'm recording the episodes and mainly get to watch them later the same night they are broadcast. Can't wait any longer smile

strictlycaballine Wed 05-Dec-12 16:00:08

I liked Marcus Wareing before watching last night's programme. Thought his,

"I've sacrificed my friends, I've sacrificed my family, I've sacrificed my youth" was a bitt OTT.

Wonder whether the BBC is trying to ramp up the drama. Really felt for Ollie - how on earth do you expect to get the best out of people when behaving in that manner?

As LittleAbruzzenBear says, it's totally unnecessary.

Anyway, thought the best man won. Am rooting for Ollie and foraging bloke ...

Instead of recording and watching tomorrow lunchtime whilst feeding DS2, I will watch tonight when it's on. I love the semi-final and final episodes and can't wait.

EnjoyResponsibly Wed 05-Dec-12 20:21:39

Who's the chef tonight in the Pro kitchen? He's going to blow a gasket any second!

MsNobodyAgain Wed 05-Dec-12 20:29:21

Daniel Clifford. He's been on 'Great British Menu' as well. Always seemed a bit volatile on that tbh.

EnjoyResponsibly Wed 05-Dec-12 20:32:38

Seems to be par for the profession. Fabulous food though. Love game.

Wooohoo.
I felt for Ross, his little heart broke. Such a close thing, James was lucky his venison looked like he dropped it on the floor

WingDefence Wed 05-Dec-12 21:47:39

Poor Ross. Really gutted he didn't get through because I like Matt Bellamy so my hopes are pinned on Anton now (if that's the name of the Devon chef who did the carrot cake in a pot?).

I hadn't heard of that Midsummer restaurant before but I was drooling over both those dishes tonight!

It's hotting up!

herbaceous Thu 06-Dec-12 11:47:32

It did look DELISH, didn't it. Luckily my delivery curry arrived just in time, or I would have started eating the cushions.

And that Daniel Clifford looked rather disappointed that Ross and James recreated his 'signature' dish so well, and seemingly easily. Not as remarkable as you thought you were, eh Mr Stroppy...

I love the look of Anton's food. Much as I like Keri, and it would be good for a woman to be in the final, I think he's the best.

it's because the pros have no family life or friends outside of work - would make anyone very uptight!

This week Daniel & Marcus have both admitted they have lost contact with their friends and never see their families in order to achieve what they have (a Michillin starred restaurant).

As much as I love MC PRof, I just can't see how anything would be worth not seeing my family. Fancy food - so what??!!?!?!

herbaceous Thu 06-Dec-12 16:11:49

I'm out tonight, so will miss the Keri vs Anton showdown. However, as I'll be eating a meal prepared by college catering students, I shall try to throw as many Michel-, Greg- and Monica-isms as possible.
'I could not serve this plate to Michel'.
'Why isn't it in a bowl?'
'This is not error-free.'
'Your sauce is deep, but there's not enough of it.'
'I could eat this ALL UP.'

Minichristmas Thu 06-Dec-12 16:30:50

It's not to my taste, I don't like it.
Also just raising your eyebrow. What fun you will have

herbaceous Thu 06-Dec-12 16:37:19

I hope others at the table are MCP fans, or I'll look a right arse as I tilt my head to one side and nod. Or shout 'where's my mash?'

As they're dear little teenagers cooking our food, I shall refrain from acting like one of critics and pouring disdain upon the offerings, while pushing it around my plate.

MsNobodyAgain Thu 06-Dec-12 17:25:21

Can you work in the words 'buttery biscuit base' at some point?

Or, "it's like a snog in a bowl"?

WingDefence Thu 06-Dec-12 17:39:48

You have to start by mentioning something about the presentation grin

You have to do a sort of sideways nod if you like it.

Its an accomplished dish

the fish/meat/veg are as they should be

Shit me that chef is a man mountain. He seems nice though. Kinder than the previous two stress heads

Minichristmas Thu 06-Dec-12 20:27:40

Yes almost human. C'mon Keri

fishybits Thu 06-Dec-12 20:28:08

Now, that is a chef I would've enjoyed working for back in the day.

Pantah630 Thu 06-Dec-12 20:30:11

What a great, inspirational chef and a stress free kitchen. Very impressive, those two are very lucky. I missed last nights show but blimey Marcus Waring is a real stresshead.

EnjoyResponsibly Thu 06-Dec-12 20:35:34

You can really see these two in the final, can't you?

EnjoyResponsibly Thu 06-Dec-12 20:37:13

Is this a knockout round though? Unfair if it is. Some of the previous contenders weren't close to Keri and Anton.

fishybits Thu 06-Dec-12 20:38:01

I agree Enjoy, both of these chefs are very good.

Lovemynailstoday Thu 06-Dec-12 20:39:45

Never knew the water bath was THE thing at the moment. Everthing goes in there....

EnjoyResponsibly Thu 06-Dec-12 20:40:04

TBF last nights chef was mostly pissed off at Ross's inability to plate up as instructed over and over. Presentation wasn't a string suit for either contender and both screwed up a course in the cook-off.

Tougher challenge tonight with K & A. I reckon both might go through.

WingDefence Thu 06-Dec-12 20:40:16

I agree as well - it will be a real shame to lose either of these two. I'm still rooting for Anton but I think Keri will do it as she has the confidence.

And why would Gregg want them to cook "like they've never cooked before"? That'd be pretty bad, wouldn't it? confused grin

expatinscotland Thu 06-Dec-12 20:41:30

I really want Keri to go through.

EnjoyResponsibly Thu 06-Dec-12 20:42:04

Wing grin either super good, or very very bad.

Has Anton chosen unwisely?

fishybits Thu 06-Dec-12 20:43:08

I'm not sure I see the point of Greg Wallace in this series. He's okay in the other two but seems out of his depth in this one or am I missing something?

Aw that challenge was lovely to watch. Yes sadly well say good bye to one of them.

How tall was he? 6ft 8?

EnjoyResponsibly Thu 06-Dec-12 20:46:11

I know it's probably super cool, but why's Keri plated up on a roof tile smile

expatinscotland Thu 06-Dec-12 20:47:46

Anton's food is too far out there for me.

EnjoyResponsibly Thu 06-Dec-12 20:49:23

Expat Antons main is actually making me drool.

ProphetOfDoom Thu 06-Dec-12 20:49:50

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fishybits Thu 06-Dec-12 20:49:55

Vair trendy Enjoy. Buy them from BnQ, slap some sealer and voilà!

EnjoyResponsibly Thu 06-Dec-12 20:51:30

It's an outrage if both these don't go through. That's not without precedent.

<Bites nails>

expatinscotland Thu 06-Dec-12 20:51:32

I wouldn't want to eat that main.

expatinscotland Thu 06-Dec-12 20:52:44

The other two finalists kind of suck compared to these two.

fishybits Thu 06-Dec-12 20:52:49

I would not like to have to choose between these two chefs, way way better than the other two finalists.

EnjoyResponsibly Thu 06-Dec-12 20:57:16

The guy last night served up a plate of dark brown and gt through.

These two MUST go through!!!!!

fishybits Thu 06-Dec-12 20:57:46

Yessssss!

ProphetOfDoom Thu 06-Dec-12 20:57:52

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EnjoyResponsibly Thu 06-Dec-12 20:57:54

HAH!!!!!

Raises crystal ball in triumph.

justice has been done!

EnjoyResponsibly Thu 06-Dec-12 20:58:47

High five Schmaltzy grin

ProphetOfDoom Thu 06-Dec-12 21:00:40

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WingDefence Thu 06-Dec-12 21:01:19

Hurrah! So happy with that decision! I am still Team Anton but Keri definitely cooked far better than the two last night.

Yay. Im so pleased, awesome decision..well guessed.
All the Food looked utterly divine.

EnjoyResponsibly Thu 06-Dec-12 22:59:51

I think Anton will clinch it if he doesn't go OTT. But Keri is a Greg fave and shouldn't be discounted. ollie in 3rd.

Brown food guy out first.

greenhill Fri 07-Dec-12 10:52:23

Thanks wingdefence I reinstalled iPlayer and have got rid of the repeating glitch, so have caught up with most episodes now...I've got to the professional kitchen stage, so have not looked at the most recent posts!

Great episode last night, so pleased Anton and Keri got through. How nice was the Michelin chef too, can't remember his name, shows you can get results from your team without being screamy/dramatic/arsey..... I want Anton to win a teensy bit more because he is so lovely. I bet Mrs Anton gets to eat all his fab food when he experiments. envy

strictlycaballine Fri 07-Dec-12 11:37:58

Exactly LittleAbruzzen and I bet I know which of the chefs/restaurants will attract more custom after showing their respective behind-the-scenes working methods.

herbaceous Fri 07-Dec-12 16:17:27

I'm trying not the read the posts above, as I have yet to see last night's episode!

Comments from last night's meal include:

Your duck is well-cooked, and I like the combination of mango, coconut and lime in the sauce. But why did you serve it on spaghetti?

herbaceous that's funny, was all of that really served on spaghetti?!

WickedGirl Fri 07-Dec-12 18:51:21

I am hoping that Keri or Oli win. I can't stand the foraging guy

WingDefence Fri 07-Dec-12 18:57:19

Did the duck have perfectly crispy skin herb?

Do you think anyone else there was watching MC?

hehehe well done herb smile

Marking place after an iPlayer marathon to catch up on this week!

<Team Keri>

MsRinky Fri 07-Dec-12 22:31:42

I am off to the Hand and Flowers on Sunday afternoon! I am dead excited.

MousyMouse Fri 07-Dec-12 22:38:52

I love keri.
I want to give her a big hug before clearing the plate.
keri to win!

Gracelo Sat 08-Dec-12 08:11:12

I wonder if the first 2 pairs would have done better in their restaurant challenges with someone as kind and supportive as Tom Kerridge. So nice to see a restaurant kitchen with such a relaxed atmosphere.

Msrinky I am so jealous. We went to the Hand & Flowers for my birthday a couple of years ago and it was phenomenal. Tom Kerridge is my absolute favourite chef.
Are you staying over? If anyone is looking for a lovely night away they have fab rooms there, some with hot tubs!

Davros Sat 08-Dec-12 10:43:14

Just catching up with this. Going back a bit, the thing the chicken is cooked in is a chicken brick (as someone said before). We always had one when I was growing up from Habitat, we were a very trendy family in the 60s, I think you can get them from lakeland now and they cook a chicken and veg, esp potatoes wonderfully!
I think Keri is like a darker Angela Hartnett (not that I like AH).
And I like Jay Rayner, does anyone listen to The Kitchen Cabinet on Radio 4? Its good, prob on IPlayer or podcast. Its like Gardeners' Question Time for food.
And what about Celeriac Puree - WHY? Does anyone ever see it anywhere but on telly or at restaurants? What is wrong with good old cauliflower?

Gracelo I agree. I am sure the others would have performed better with Tom, or another chef like him. There is a lovely Scottish Michelin chef, again, whose name escapes me, with brown, curly hair and he is really nice. He has been on the normal Masterchef before.

Tom Kitchin!

Thanks Lulu, that's the guy! He is really nice. Obviously something about the name Tom!

Gracelo Mon 10-Dec-12 09:28:57

If I were a Masterchef contestant (I won't, I can't think of many worse things than working in a professional kitchen) I would come out of Tom Kerridge's kitchen with oodles of confidence whereas I would feel bruised after working for Waring and the other one, forgot his name.
In one of the MCs, can't rememeber which one, didn't they go to Noma? Or maybe I saw it on some other program, but I remember how friendly, relaxed and calm the atmosphere was there. So nice to see that.

WingDefence Mon 10-Dec-12 20:39:10

Right, so Gregg shouting 'Keri! Keri!' isn't showing his bias at all?!

I am confused as to how much of a surprise that invention test was as I can't imagine they'd have time to to those little interviews in the middle of this crazy 2hrs 10mins but it sudden as if they were?

WingDefence Mon 10-Dec-12 20:39:43

*sounded

WingDefence Mon 10-Dec-12 20:59:05

Well, after that round I don't think that was a surprise.

An interesting final three - a great mix of male/female and old/young smile

I felt a little bad for [blank], but the right three went through.

Im so glad James has gone out, he really just wasn't up to the standard of the other 3.

I love Keri but i'm not sure if she'll win-Anton is incredibly competitive.

I don't know it's quite a level pegging with Keri and Anton. She seems pretty determined too. However, Olly, although quieter, has come out with some fantastic dishes that have been spot on. I like all three. Tonight will be interesting.

witchwithallthetrimmings Tue 11-Dec-12 10:14:19

I think james just lost it when they told him that it had to be vegitarian did you see his face? it was obviously his weak spot. curry for veggies is really scrapping the barrel

My bet is on ollie, i think we can't tell from our sofas just how good his food actually is

Idontknowhowtohelpher Tue 11-Dec-12 10:21:57

Am I right in thinking that no-one goes out now until Thursday - the final?
I want Keri to win, but I'd be happy with Ollie.

MirandaWest Tue 11-Dec-12 10:36:17

I want Keri to win but am wondering if it might be Ollie. This of course means it will be Anton....

Jux Tue 11-Dec-12 11:28:20

I want it to be Ollie. I'm with you, though, Miranda, it means Anton will win.

All three finalists are brilliant - it's going to be a fantastic week!!!
(rooting for Keri to win)

but I think it will be Olli (so yeah that prob means Anton smile I've only picked a MC winner once)

greenhill Tue 11-Dec-12 11:55:02

They've got strong finalists again this year.

I can't decide between them, I just wish there was a way of actually trying their food for myself, as it looks delicious.

Greenhill I would love sit there and try their food. Sometimes, if a dish looks utterly divine I have a grin on my face and drooling when the judges are in raptures. Last night it was Ollie's raviolo that I lusted over.

LaVolcan Tue 11-Dec-12 14:25:05

I want Keri to win or failing that Olli, but I think they will go with Anton.
Olli, being the youngest, is the one who has probably improved the most and has the most potential, but I suspect they will think he's not quite the finished article. I wonder what tonight's programme will bring?

Biscuitsandtinsel Tue 11-Dec-12 16:23:14

Just found this thread smile Room for another?

I really want ollie to win (which my phone ironically autocorrects to oldie grin).

I so want him to do ok. I'm just watching last night's and willing them to like Ollie's food smile. So far so good on the ravioli but Greg not so keen in the pud confused

I need James or anton to do worse. Pref James - I like him least (but they're all so talented). I like Kerry probably second best out of all of them.

I know I'm behind and you probably all know who went out last night so bear with me for half an hour.....

Oh good, James has burnt something grin. (I don't really dislike him, just don't want him to knock ollie out. I don't the foraging thing works for me - never makes me want to eat it iyswim).

I think in an early episode Greg commented that michel liked ollie - I think he's made whatever happens as he's so obviously so talented which so much ahead of him.

Biscuitsandtinsel Tue 11-Dec-12 16:30:39

What's the difference in a ravioli or raviolo? Is raviolo just the singular of ravioli? Or is there some other difference?

Hi Biscuits, yep, it's just the singular of ravioli. Oh God, I'm thinking about it again. It just looked so edible!

greenhill Tue 11-Dec-12 17:20:05

Unusually there has been a lot more food I'd want to eat from this series. Sometimes I look at the classics Michel creates and just think they seem like a lot of faff for foodstuffs I don't fancy the look of either.

I was looking at half price Masterchef cookbooks piled high in WHSmiths yesterday, I don't think a lot of them can be recreated at home without water baths etc. John Torode's chicken book was £3.

Jux Tue 11-Dec-12 17:58:27

Gosh yes, I wanted that raviolo dish. And Greg was wrong about chocolate and pineapple. WRONG I tells 'ee!!!!!!

Jux Tue 11-Dec-12 18:00:51

Looking forward to this evening. Mind you, I always think this one where the poor sods have to cook for 937 top chefs, each with at least 12 Michelin stars, is a bit mean.

GetorfsaMotherfuckingMorrisMan Tue 11-Dec-12 18:28:17

I really want Keri to win. I think she is brilliant. And yet Anton I have a soft spot for with his lovely Devon accent reminding me of home.

But then look at ollie's face, bless him. I think he has been very consistently impressive. That raviolo last night looked very smart.

I think they're all great.

Please bring back monica galetti. Me and dd LOVE her.

I love Monica too. I would love for her to replace John in the standard Masterchef.

YouCanBe Tue 11-Dec-12 19:52:22

Yes I miss Monica too!
I think she gets fed at the dinner though, because I remember her giving a brief review of something in a nice dress from another year!

Biscuitsandtinsel Tue 11-Dec-12 19:56:21

I like Monica too smile hope she's there tonight smile

WingDefence Tue 11-Dec-12 20:08:21

I don't really understand this challenge. Are they doing Michel's three courses or their own? It seems like their own but then why did he say he'd prepared three courses first?

Blimey Ollie's hand! They just stuck a bit of Sellotape on it?!

Biscuitsandtinsel Tue 11-Dec-12 20:43:38

I think (!) they are designing a me u between them and if it is good enough then they cook their own food, otherwise they'll have to do Michel's 'back up menu'?

WingDefence Tue 11-Dec-12 20:50:02

Aha, that'd make sense Biscuits.

Ooh hasn't Anton done well. It looked like Monica had tears in her eyes and what a reaction from him as well!

stargirl1701 Tue 11-Dec-12 20:58:32

What a lovely episode tonight. Ooh, what will tomorrow bring?!

Biscuitsandtinsel Tue 11-Dec-12 21:02:45

But they're still cooking a different menu for the mega chefs? I thought the whole point of the first bit was to trial the menu?

Loved tonight's episode. Possibly because there was no Greg grin!

Reckon Ollie might have hit his limits, the other two just seem to be getting better and better - although I was convinced the lamb was going to be overcooked, or Keri was going to drop her desserts! Did anyone else notice that the route back from the freezer was like an obstacle course?!

Biscuitsandtinsel Tue 11-Dec-12 21:20:23

Yeah, that's the first time I've seen Oli 'struggle' - be interesting to see how he gets on tomorrow....

LaVolcan Tue 11-Dec-12 21:22:34

I too think Olli has probably reached his limit-I think he more or less admitted so himself by saying that he was only a sous-chef. Even if he doesn't win, he deserves a prize for reaching the final beating many more experienced chefs on the way.

It definitely seems a toss-up between Keri and Anton...... I will be biting my nails come finals night.

Oooh that were proper good. Exciting. Didn't it look yummy . They did so well, oli bless him just hit the wrong note i think.

GetorfsaMotherfuckingMorrisMan Wed 12-Dec-12 06:51:53

That was a great episode. I LOVE that chef from the Hand and Flowers. What a thoroughly lovely man.

Ollie did well but seemed out of his depth really. The other two - I can't choose between them. Do you reckon they will have a joint winner? I would hate to see either of them lose to be honest.

Michel Roux Sr is engaging isn't it.

Tonight's should be BRILLIANT - they're going to the Fat Duck.

I want to go to that Hand and Flowers place - where is it again?

GetorfsaMotherfuckingMorrisMan Wed 12-Dec-12 06:53:14

Isn't he

Poor Ollie. sad. I did feel terribly for him. He looked so nervous the whole time, especially when he had to stand in front of everyone. My fav dish was Keri's, it looked so pretty and delicate on the plate, but I wanted to devour it nonetheless. Monica definitely did get teary when Keri spoke to the chefs. I think she was proud of them all.

Agree about Tom from the Hand & Flowers, lovely, lovely man. I want to go to his restaurant on that basis!

greenhill Wed 12-Dec-12 07:35:14

getorf the Hand and Flowers is a 2 Michelin star pub / restaurant with accommodation in Marlow, Bucks. The website makes it look amazing (up thread somewhere)

I've got to watch that episode on iPlayer very soon, or I won't be able to watch the final "live".

Anton to win smile. This is the first final in years where I really like all three contestants.

YouCanBe Wed 12-Dec-12 08:14:32

I think I want Keri to win now. But I could probably be swayed in the last episode. They are all nice and Anton and Keri are on a pretty level pegging.

Gracelo Wed 12-Dec-12 09:46:28

I think Olli would have done better with that beef main dish he cooked at the start of the program. Going by the look on Michel's face when he ate it it must have been fab.

It's a shame really with Olli's dish. It just needed more seasoning and another element to bring a different texture, but then I guess at that level he should have thought of that. He is only 21 though and was very nervous. If only those chefs had had his raviolo for a starter, it could have been so different. I will not mention that raviolo any more, except to say that I am going to have a go at making it over Xmas.

I would be happy with any of them winning.

Poledra Wed 12-Dec-12 10:04:29

Tom Kerridge is lovely, but did anyone see him on the Great British Food Revival? He took cured ham and fried it in butter. Tom, mate, if you're reading this, you're heading for a heart attack before you're 50 shock

'Twas a fantastic episode of Food Revival, BTW, as it had the fabulous Monica on it talking about asparagus, one of 4-yo DD3's favourite veggies. Champagne tastes, my girl grin

Gracelo Wed 12-Dec-12 10:13:07

I missed Monday's episode. What was inside that raviolo?

Wilts Wed 12-Dec-12 10:19:47

I want Kerri to win, although I am not sure there is much between her and Anton.

Loving Tom Kerridge and am hankering after a visit to the hand and flowers now..

Jux Wed 12-Dec-12 10:31:57

Personally, I think Heston's an idiot, so I'm not particularly interested in tonight's, though I will watch of course!

We thought it was hilarious that the contestants were being sent to a restaurant which was closed down for poisoning people (OK, that was a while ago, but which other Michelin starred chef can make that claim?). grin

White truffle, mashed potato and egg yolk Gracelo.

Gracelo Wed 12-Dec-12 11:46:01

Oooh, I'd like that raviolo too. Emily (???) on normal Masterchef a few years back did something similar.

SugaricePlumFairy Wed 12-Dec-12 11:55:12

Another huge Tom Kerridge fan here!

He seems so genuine and unaffected by his talent unlike some of the other arsey chefs we see on the telly.

GetorfsaMotherfuckingMorrisMan Wed 12-Dec-12 13:49:50

That Hand and Flowers website looks amazing. I wanna go! <Wails>

It makes a change for chefs not to be egomaniac morons. Michel"s brother Alain looked very sweet as well.

For a 21 year old chef de partie Oli is very impressive. I think he is probably too little experienced against keri and anton. Ireally want them BOTH to win.

I think Heston comes across as a knob on telly but I think his food looks extraordinary - it will be a fabulous experience for the chefs.

What am I going to watch when this, the Killing AND Homeland finishes soon?

I will have to do some fucking christmas shopping then.[Grin]

PseudoBadger Wed 12-Dec-12 20:08:28

Couldn't they get Heston??

expatinscotland Wed 12-Dec-12 20:15:06

You couldn't pay me to eat at that boaktastic Fat Duck.

Glittertwins Wed 12-Dec-12 20:20:35

We're watching, very strong finalists this year. I quite fancy trying the Hand & Flowers as it isn't far and a friend has recommended it too. I'm not keen on HB's cooking of way out things though.

Gracelo Wed 12-Dec-12 20:20:48

It's too much faffing about with food for me. I work in a lab, I don't want to centrifuge my food as well. I have made ice cream with liquid nitrogen before, that was pretty good.

Minichristmas Wed 12-Dec-12 20:30:04

Is it all frozen stuff? My teeth would it cope. Where's the custard?

Minichristmas Wed 12-Dec-12 20:30:42

Wouldn't

Minichristmas Wed 12-Dec-12 21:02:36

I am disappointed. Just seemed like a big advert for the fat duck. Not impressed.

Jux Wed 12-Dec-12 21:30:58

What was the picnic tablecloth made of?

(Agree, big free advert for The Fat Duck.)

PseudoBadger Wed 12-Dec-12 21:36:38

I think it was white choc with an edible transfer

Minichristmas Wed 12-Dec-12 22:11:58

Made of yuk. A 'transfer'. Not making sense too much wine

Aftereightsaremine Wed 12-Dec-12 22:39:39

Ate in the Fat Duck once. It was quite enough, never again. Food was AWFUL. On the other hand dh loved it.

LaVolcan Thu 13-Dec-12 00:19:37

What a pretentious place!

A week or so back we had Jay Rayner being sniffy about a chef who used gold leaf on the plate. So what do we get at The Fat Duck? Gold leaf "watches"!!!

I think Anton came off best and I think he will win, although I would like Keri to win, and I hope that all this exposure serves Oli in good stead.

greenhill Thu 13-Dec-12 00:37:07

I just watched that episode too. Whilst it looked fun, I couldn't help thinking that telling everyone exactly how to eat their food to maximise the taste was taking control freakery to new levels.

Did anyone else see the chef's names at the end of the episode? They only died recently, in a car crash, whilst promoting the restaurant in Hong Kong, I think.

expatinscotland Thu 13-Dec-12 01:50:59

I think Anton and Keri are the best. It's too bad they can't joint win because I think they also work extremely well together and seem to feed off each other and both have an amazing attitude to their profession. I love how Keri said she was still smiling at the end of the second day at The Fat Duck.

Definitely the closest final I've seen. They are all three incredibly talented.

I admire the 'science lab' fun of The Fat Duck. It's clever, but for my personal taste I like classic cooking, particularly French and Italian. I think The Fat Duck is food theatre IYSWIM. I did laugh when a customer received their BFG and the waiter sprayed the air with 'the scent of the pine forest'. Customer's face was a bit 'wtf?'.

All three chefs did so well. Anton and Keri do seem to feed off each other, I agree, and would make a good team. I hope all three do well when this finishes, whoever wins.

reddwarf Thu 13-Dec-12 08:16:39

I didn't like that round at the FD. The contestants were basically told to learn and incorporate what they learn into their own cooking. YOu never see MLR with a tub of liquid nitrogen fgs. Anton also said he is more a classical chef and it wasn't his style, so I feel they will feel forced to use gimiccy techniques which they don't necessarily feel comfortable with, just to tick the boxes and prove they are learning. DOes that make sense?

I don't facy the FD food either. I don't want my brain to be confused with sweet looking food that is actually savoury etc etc. And yes, peaple spraying the air with the scent of the blackforest would not impress me, nor telling me how to put the food in front of me into my mouth, or even how to eat it once it's there - don't chew, let it dissolve slowly on your tongue. PISS OFF.

Gracelo Thu 13-Dec-12 08:41:03

Is that actually the entire dinner one gets at the FD? Because I'd still be hungry afterwards, I think.
I really really dislike the idea of gold in my food. My fillings hurt just thinking about biting on it.

greenhill Thu 13-Dec-12 08:54:04

I can't help wondering how well gold gets digested too, would it still be shiny after eating? (Lowers tone of discussion to most basic level)

Gracelo Thu 13-Dec-12 09:02:47

It goes straight through, I think. It's pretty inert. I just can't see the point of having it on my food.

greenhill Thu 13-Dec-12 09:09:48

YY it would be like eating a foil wrapped chocolate off the Christmas tree: a mistake that a small child would only make once, because it hurt their teeth and was difficult to chew on!

I like the idea of the vacuum sealed fruit though, as it would retain the pure, concentrated taste of the food.

I enjoyed last nights and want both Antonio and Kerri to win, though I do like Oli.

Green hill, not the two chefs who were one the show? How awful sad

greenhill Thu 13-Dec-12 09:27:04

No, not the ones on the show, there are 40 chefs at work at FD. Still devastating for the FD though. I'll look for a link.

greenhill Thu 13-Dec-12 09:29:05

Here you go, link to chef deaths from FD

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-20425528

Just read the link, how sad and awful. sad

I live near the FD, and was watching this last night, and my DH said his work colleagues had said that you need to go to McDonalds after a meal there, as you are starving afterwards!

Also Charles campion was on the Today programme today, and said that when you eat at the FD, a couple of the dishes are the best thing you've ever eaten, a couple are very good, and couple you'll never want to eat again.

Made me giggle, still would like to go, but will need to save for about a year to afford it!

Jux Thu 13-Dec-12 11:37:21

If you were silly-rich so that you didn't know what else you could spend money on. FD thoroughly pretentious. Going there would be one of those things you would do so you could show off by saying you had, when you're actually not very interested in food. A bit like going to opera when you don't really like music.

Gold is quite often served with certain curries, I've had it and it doesn't hurt your teeth as gold leaf is so delicate that it just disappears. It is inert so it goes straight through, but you won't find it unless you sort through with a microscope! grin

Thanks greenhill, that's so awful.

LaVolcan Thu 13-Dec-12 17:27:20

So what is the point of adding gold then, if it's inert and goes right through?

Sound of the sea - now I love the sea myself, but to sit there listening to the sound via headphones. It was just stupid in my opinion and made the diners look stupid too. Not a place I will be going to, I think.

LaVolcan Thu 13-Dec-12 17:30:06

Oh and I'm not silly-rich either, so that's another reason not to go. Now the Michelin starred pub, that seems a more enticing prospect.

Jux Thu 13-Dec-12 17:43:25

LaVolcan, I think the main point is to show that you can afford to put gold in your food. I suspect that was how it started, anyway. Now it is clearly to show that you can afford to go to pretentious restaurants where they put gold in your food for you.

You would get a much better meal at the pub in Marlow, and you wouldn't need to drop in to McD's afterwards, either.

I didn't get the impression that you were able to choose your food at FD, either. Set menu everyday and be thankful for it. Control freakery to a bizarre degree.

Getorf, we watch the same telly grin. Am also saving up for The Hand and Flowers!!!

LittleAbruzzenBearLovesYuleLog Thu 13-Dec-12 18:09:05

Just checked out The Hand & Flowers site. Very nice menu. [drool emoticon]

LaVolcan Thu 13-Dec-12 18:39:46

Just checked out The Hand and Flowers: Set lunch £25.00 for two courses, £29.50 for three.

Fat Duck:Tasting menu (only one available on the website). £195 pp and please allow 3 and half hours!

noddyholder Thu 13-Dec-12 18:42:14

I want anton to win

LaVolcan Thu 13-Dec-12 18:56:20

I want Keri to win although I have a suspicion that it will be Anton. What a good job that they decided to put them both through to the final.

Im busting with excitement . I still can't decide who i like best..think its keri, but anton is great too..maybe they should give it to keri because she needs it more, i think anton will make it whatever he does now.

WingDefence Thu 13-Dec-12 19:58:08

I missed last night's - did they all go through after the Fat Duck? Going to watch tonight's live as it's my birthday so I get the remote! grin

Yes there's no eliminations this week. Tonight is the decider

scandy Thu 13-Dec-12 20:03:28

Happy birthday wing!

expatinscotland Thu 13-Dec-12 20:13:08

Love Keri and Anton.

Tanith Thu 13-Dec-12 20:31:32

Never been to the Hand and Flower, but went to the Compleat Angler and the Royal Oak, both in/near Marlow, several years ago when I was booked on a course at work.

Both fabulous! Marlow must be a wonderful place to live!

Arrgh, missed Anton's menu - is it bonkers?

I have an embarrassing feeling I may blub at the end.

<searches for grip>

PseudoBadger Thu 13-Dec-12 20:34:11

I also missed it, but I know he's doing some nettle-wrapped venison....

DorsetKnobwithJingleBellsOn Thu 13-Dec-12 20:36:09

Anton is doing pollock marinated in elderflower and salt for a starter.

Biscuitsandtinsel Thu 13-Dec-12 20:38:07

I'm only watching this now but they all seem so nice! I've just watched the bit on each finalist - I want to go to Anton's pub! How lovely that his wife works there too - they look as though they've worked so hard smile

I mean they all work hard obviously!

I think anton or keri will probably win but Oli has such a bright future - he's so young!

Watched the FD episode - I think I'd like to go there if I'd won £70m on the euro millions or something - you know if I had money to burn. But then in that situation I'd also like to go and check out that new suite at Claridges which is £7k a night (I've been watching the Claridges thing too!). But it's the kind of thing I'd probably only want to do once. It's all very clever but I can imagine if I'd gone to the H&F I'd want to go back again and again.

Flumpyflumps Thu 13-Dec-12 20:39:08

I have a feeling they already think anton will win, ty spent way longer talking to him.

I want keri to win (if I may chuck in my two penneth!)

expatinscotland Thu 13-Dec-12 20:46:36

I think Keri's made the most progress.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 13-Dec-12 20:48:14

I like keri but I'm a bit worried that the chap now will get it.

DorsetKnobwithJingleBellsOn Thu 13-Dec-12 20:48:17

Agree with you Expat.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 13-Dec-12 20:48:48

Anton i mean!

Biscuitsandtinsel Thu 13-Dec-12 20:50:09

By the way, didn't they go somewhere 'similar' to the FD last year - a 3 star place in Spain (?) run by 3 brothers where one was a sommelier, one did puds and one mains? And the pud man made like a fake apricot thing that was amazing!

PseudoBadger Thu 13-Dec-12 20:50:09

Oh how gushy can they be!

I wnat to eat Anton's dessert RIGHT NOW. That is all my favourite things on one beautiful plate.

I reckon he's nailed it.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 13-Dec-12 20:54:13

Same here 12legged. An amazing pudding!

FuriousRox Thu 13-Dec-12 20:54:57

Greg has totally utterly completely totally absolutely and finally run out of superlatives.

PseudoBadger Thu 13-Dec-12 20:58:50

Both?? Cop out....

difficultpickle Thu 13-Dec-12 20:58:56

Didn't see that coming. Both so well deserved.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 13-Dec-12 20:59:12

What!!!!!!!!

Sunnywithachanceofjinglebells Thu 13-Dec-12 20:59:36

Yay! I'm so pleased for them.

difficultpickle Thu 13-Dec-12 20:59:45

I would have picked Keri.

ProphetOfDoom Thu 13-Dec-12 21:00:36

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expatinscotland Thu 13-Dec-12 21:01:17

I love both of them!

Gracelo Thu 13-Dec-12 21:02:39

Yeah!
Why did Olli not get a class of champagne?

Wonderful decision. Such amazing food smile

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 13-Dec-12 21:05:37

Poor olli sad after all he came second.

So where do Anton and Keri work? Anyone have the names of their restaurants? It would be fabulous to go to eat there before they become famous and expensive grin

reddwarf Thu 13-Dec-12 21:33:57

Dunno about Keri, but Anton and his missus have their own pub in Devon

LaVolcan Thu 13-Dec-12 21:34:46

Shame for Oli but I think he knew himself during the final week that he wasn't quite the same standard as the other two. There's no reason to suppose that he won't surpass them in future. Even being a runner up won't have done him any harm.

YAY! Very pleased.

ginmakesitallok Thu 13-Dec-12 21:50:36

No - terrible decision, what a total cop-out!!!

DorsetKnobwithJingleBellsOn Thu 13-Dec-12 21:52:09

keri works as an execitive chef for a company.

Jux Thu 13-Dec-12 22:02:57

Excellent result. I wanted Oli to win, but he's so young and the other two have years of experience behind them. Oli has a brilliant future ahead of him.

Well done Anton and Keri.

Biscuitandtinsel, I was thinking of that very restaurant last night. Soooo much nicer than the FD. The brothers' food was much more delectable and delicious sounding. I'd definitely go there.

Tanith Thu 13-Dec-12 23:59:31

I don't believe it!! Anton robbed of the Masterchef title just 'cos Gregg is a pig!

Both very good, but I reckon Anton had the edge due to his creativity.

My heart bled for poor Oli, too - his sad little face when he realised what he'd done - poor Oli hmm

Biscuitsandtinsel Fri 14-Dec-12 05:52:28

Yes jux that's what I was thinking - although it was very experimental and 'different' at the Spanish place I remember thinking 'ooooh yum - I'd love to eat that!' Whereas the FD stuff looked clever but didn't inspire my tastebuds as much iyswim. I'm sure both restaurants would be horrified to be described as 'similar' because I'm sure they do their own thing entirely, but to a mere mortal like me they are very similar, and totally different to what is normally eat iyswim.

I wonder what people like MRJ really think of it all? I wonder if they think it's all a but pretentious?

I did quite like the two young girls that were eating there and kept giggling at how bizarre the eating 'experience' was - I think I'd have been like them if I were there except not quite as young, nor pretty. A lot of the other diners looked like they were trying to take it all in their stride.

Biscuitsandtinsel Fri 14-Dec-12 05:54:17

tanith I thought when it came to it anton should probably have edged it for his creativity but I suppose they were both incredibly good.

I wonder if Greg and michel are kind of comparing them to precious winners - maybe they are just both so much better?

Biscuitsandtinsel Fri 14-Dec-12 05:56:31

Oh and I know what I wanted to ask, DH got home from work just as they were eating the food last night and insisted on making conversation - hmph so I missed what Oli actually did wrong? I know Michel referred to 'one mistake too many'?

Ooops didn't mean to bold Anton's name - although he could be a MNer you never know grin

BlueyDragon Fri 14-Dec-12 06:09:34

Oil undercooked his lobster a bit and put his dessert in the fridge instead of the freezer. Sadly enough to put him out of contention - they were all really good this year! DH thinks the joint winner thing is a cop out, but I think it was the right thing. Anton was there from the start and Keri got there; Oli's almost there I reckon.

DH and I ate at the FD a few years ago and wouldn't bother to go back. We felt a bit patronised by the service, rather treated as if we were peasants who had never been to a restaurant before and certainly couldn't afford to be in this one so didn't deserve to be there, and the food was more about the chef than the food. I've been lucky enough to eat in a couple of other 3 and 2 star restaurants and never once felt as patronised by the service as I did there. Won't go back. HB's pub in Bray, The Hind's Head, is a completely different kettle of fish, cheaper, excellent pub food and gets 1 star in 2013. Would definitely go back there.

Anton's pub is The Treby Arms in Sparkwell, near Plymouth, btw. I want to go there too. MN Foodies outing anyone grin?

Biscuitsandtinsel Fri 14-Dec-12 06:18:43

Ah bless little Oli sad. Now you mention I do recall MRJ saying the pud had only just frozen. Bless him. But I've got the sense all week that he couldn't actually believe he'd got to the final and had far exceeded his own expectations iyswim. I think he thought it was all just amazing experience.

I'd hate that if they are patronising at the FD. I haven't eaten in many super Posho restaurants but what I've liked is that they make you feel like you belong iyswim. For us it is a mega rare saved-up-for-treat whereas probably 90% of the other diners are regulars at that type of restaurant, so they must know we don't normally eat like that. But to me that is the mark of good service that they make you feel welcome and comfortable and complete the 'experience' alongside the food.

That is another programme I would have loved to see back - that Service by MRJ - loved that!

BlueyDragon Fri 14-Dec-12 06:23:01

That's exactly my point, Biscuits - good service makes all folk welcome until they make themselves unwelcome! GW apparently eats at Le Caprice 3 times a week; I think I'd stop appreciating it quite so much if it wasn't a vvvv rare treat.

I missed Service - when was that on?

Biscuitsandtinsel Fri 14-Dec-12 06:30:17

Oh it must have been nearly 2 years ago. They took some 'yoofs' and trained them up to do front of house jobs but they did it 'properly'. Not like these shows where it's all for telly and really about watching them fail. They gradually built up what they did and learned about all the aspects of restaurants until they finished off doing a service at le gavroche. And the prize was a waiter job and a sommelier job (maybe with MRJ? Can't remember the details). But it was fab though. I suppose a little bit like Jamie Oliver's Fifteen in that they actually wanted to teach them to do it properly iyswim. (Although in ever actually watched that)

Biscuitsandtinsel Fri 14-Dec-12 06:31:48

^I never* not 'in ever' blush

LittleAbruzzenBearLovesYuleLog Fri 14-Dec-12 07:18:40

Oh my goodness, that pudding was to die for! So clever and fabulous. I wanted to eat it.

After the bit at the beginning where we could see where the chefs background, I kind of wanted Keri to win, although I liked them all. I think it was the right decision in the end. Keri and Anton are cut from the same cloth. I loved Oli though. If I was old enough to be his Mum I would be so proud. He took it very well and had an admirable and positive outlook. He is still so young, so to cook like that already, I am sure he will go on to great things. I did want to give him a hug though.

LittleAbruzzenBearLovesYuleLog Fri 14-Dec-12 07:19:37

*could see the chefs' background, that should say. Sorry, have not had my coffee yet.

WingDefence Fri 14-Dec-12 08:33:03

Sorry, I thought it was a cop out too and Anton was robbed! Really, it's either a a chef who is inventive and different and a chef's chef who wins, or their criteria leans more towards the diner's chef in which case they should have been able to decide.

Really disappointed; such an anti-climax.

Jux Fri 14-Dec-12 08:38:59

TBH, I'm not that bothered about their backgrounds, and I did other stuff during that bit, sat down to watch properly when the three of them marched into the kitchen in their pinnies.

It would be nice to have a spin off sometime, following up the winners. The only ones I can remember are those two really young ones, the girl won - she was still at college when they started filming. The same series there was a similarly aged lad who was also extraordinary.

I watched The Service. It was good, more because the participants really were learning skills which would help them long term. It wasn't car crash telly, and there were moments when I wanted to cheer as someone overcame a personal hurdle and did really well. It was one of the few times when an influential person really did help people less fortunate, and great telly because of it.

Biscuitsandtinsel Fri 14-Dec-12 08:58:05

Exactly jux that's what I loved too - I watch that programme on ch 4 recently called the hotel thinking it might be something similar but turned it off after 15 mins when it became v apparent that they weren't trying to help anyone at all!

Biscuitsandtinsel Fri 14-Dec-12 08:59:01

watched

BlueyDragon Fri 14-Dec-12 09:24:22

I did see that, couldn't remember the title though. Agreed - it's nice to see people being properly helped and not set up for "entertainment".

I wonder what Keri and Oli will do next? I got the distinct impression that Keri wants to go back into a restaurant. At least Oli can say he's a Masterchef finalist, the experience won't be wasted for him.

If anyone from the BBC is reading then I'll second the call for follow ups!

Jux Fri 14-Dec-12 09:53:27

I didn't watch that one. Not that I made an informed choice about it, I think it just clashed with life or something better on the other side!

Sadly, most reality tv is just car crash in the name of entertainment, so I generally assume that's what it'll be.

It's hard to categorize MasterChef (whatever incarnation) alongside the Big Brother, I'm a Celeb sort of stuff, under reality, but I suppose they are. Perhaps one is Crap Reality and another Better Realitygrin

Jux Fri 14-Dec-12 09:54:11

Pretend Reality vs Real Reality?

noddyholder Fri 14-Dec-12 11:11:49

This will set a precedent for future cop outs! Agree it should have been Anton

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Fri 14-Dec-12 11:14:39

On reflection, I hated the decision. I wanted Keri to win, but I thought Antons food showed a little bit more creative genius.

Tanith Fri 14-Dec-12 14:09:41

I usually hate banoffee pie: far too sweet for me. I really, really wanted to try Anton's version, though!

That's why I think he was the better of the two. Almost every recipe of his in the last couple of weeks, I thought he'd blown it by over-reaching himself and mixing ingredients you'd never have thought would go together. And each time, he made them work really, really well.

Gracelo Fri 14-Dec-12 14:59:37

That's the problem with having an even number of judges, they need someone to cast the deciding vote. Monica should have been there. I trust her judgement a lot more than I trust GW.
I didn't fancy Anton's desert at all. I'm sure it was nice and perfectly executed but I don't like chocolate and caramel together and am not overly fond of bananas. On a menu, I would have gone for Olli's pudding.

reddwarf Fri 14-Dec-12 15:46:07

thing is, they (keri & Anton) seemed to get on very well together, and worked well together and seeemd to have mutual respect, so I thing they would each be pleased for each other and not feel robbed or cheated, it was literally win-win, neither lost out by the other also being rewarded.

I was pleased with the result.

Brugmansia Fri 14-Dec-12 17:12:56

I'd like to know Tom Kerridge's reaction. I bet he's brimming with pride for them both.

reddwarf Fri 14-Dec-12 17:42:03

He seemed like such an amazingly nice bloke didn't he? SHows you don't have to be a total arsehole to be a talented, perfectionist, high quality chef.

Tanith Fri 14-Dec-12 18:01:30

The Fat Duck episode reminded me of Willy Wonka's chocolate factory smile

Lots of clever, innovative experimentation going on and I'm sure he has pioneered some great techniques.

Although I did love the Mad Hatter's Teaparty for its cleverness, not sure if I'd want to spoil the effect by actually eating it!

I agree with what reddwarf said upthread. I was 100% behind the decision i think it was fairest because i genuinely believe that there has never been such a close final in MC before.

Jux Fri 14-Dec-12 19:13:26

I got the impression that Michel made the decisions, just discussed them with Greg (for the benefit of the cameras). How many times has he said "I know who I'm putting through", when they've got it down to 2 maybes?

MirandaWest Fri 14-Dec-12 23:05:20

Have finally watched this - have had to be ignoring this thread on threads I'm on grin

I was happy with the decision smile

WildWorld2004 Sat 15-Dec-12 10:32:40

I really liked Oli's food. I am a fussy eater & dont like fancy food but i wanted to taste near enough every single dish he made. He also seemed like he knew he didnt know it all & wanted to learn. A lot of contestants are arrogant & think they know it all. I hope Oli does well for himself.

I am glad Keri won. Not sure about Anton though.

WickedGirl Mon 17-Dec-12 17:46:33

I felt sorry for Oli but I'm glad the other 2 both won.

They all worked so hard and should all be really proud with their achievements.

Veritate Thu 20-Dec-12 21:16:00

It does make me laugh when viewers express strong opinions about which one was best. We've none of us tasted what they cooked, how can anyone conceivably say the judges were wrong?

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