Walking dead! This weeks episode! Full of spoilers so DO NOT READ!

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Rachel130690 Mon 05-Nov-12 22:07:28

I need to discuss this episode in great detail!! Can someone who has seen it please comment on what you think is the best bit? Also did you think it was very sad?

mildred37 Wed 07-Nov-12 19:27:53

Ooooh I just said on the other thread we needed a spoilers thread - thanks Wintera for the linkage!


I cried my eyes out at this one, so incredibly sad. I didn't think they would portray the birth that way at all; so it was a bit of a shock. Also am I right in thinking that Carol got away? I'm a tad confused as she went through the door leaving T behind, but they found her scarf? Did it just fall off?

Also feeling very strange re: the guv'nor, why wouldn't he let Merrell go in search of Daryl? Do you think he's trying to keep men out, and women in?

StaceeJaxx Wed 07-Nov-12 19:44:01


I sobbed during the birth, OMG! I've read the comics so I was expecting Lori to die at some point, but not like that. And poor Carl. sad And Rick's reaction oh god, I was crying again, and Carl just standing there, not crying. I kept shouting at the telly, blush "Lori can't die, who's going to feed the baby". I'm wondering if the baby will die in the next episode, because they've got no way of feeding it. (not sure if the sex is the same as the books). Did you see Hershel's little pony tail. grin And the guy who opened the gate and let the walkers in, I thought he was bittern when Rick left him to die out in the open with the walkers? confused

Figgygal Wed 07-Nov-12 19:46:23

Agree with above poster assuming there is no formula in an abandoned zombie overrun maximum security prison how r they gonna feed that baby!!

I guess they off to Woodbury next week?

somewherewest Wed 07-Nov-12 19:56:05

I am really really worried about that baby (can you tell I have an 11mo?). The trailer for ep 5 does show Daryl heading off in search of formula after Herschel points out that the baby needs food though. Hopefully he can pick up a few other items while he's out there (interestingly mental image of Daryl cross-bowing his way through a zombie-infested JoJo Maman Bebe in search of slings and grobags).

Did anyone else notice the heavily pregnant woman pointed out to Michonne & Andrea in Woodbury though? I'm wondering if the prospect of feeding the baby longterm could be what lures the Ricktatorship in there?

Nightwish Wed 07-Nov-12 20:01:08

I was absolutely fine for ages, I wasn't overly worried about Lori... then Rick's reaction, my word, I was so close to crying but I was in a car with my dad and brother so didn't think I could.

BeyondGoesOffWithABigBang Wed 07-Nov-12 20:09:57

Thank you for this thread!!!

God I hated her, but I bawled my eyes out! Was very impressed with a "realistic" birth for once, featuring the brilliant line "better get your pants off then" grin and the fact that she didnt lie on her back to push but stood up.

I dont understand why, when it was known all along how real the risk of her dying was, why they havent thought about how they'd feed the baby if she did die. The birth wasnt a surprise, she knew she was pregnant, why have they not already been to get formula? It could take days to find any!! Same re nappies and clothes, though less urgent...

Also loved hershels ponytail grin

BeyondGoesOffWithABigBang Wed 07-Nov-12 20:11:59

somewhere - one of the main reasons I was so stubborn to succeed breastfeeding - zombie apocalypse wink

NellyBluth Wed 07-Nov-12 20:18:36

Hated hated hated Lori, but the actress really turned it around this episode, brought a real lump to my throat. But it was Rick's reaction... ohh, when he looked at Carl and realised Carl had shot her, and then fell on the floor... I was in bits.

I haven't read the comics but I'd heard that it was pretty brutal with characters - and damn, the TV show is to! As long as they don't do anything with Darryl or get rid of the Governor too soon 'cos I fancy the pants off of him

HarlettOScara Wed 07-Nov-12 20:23:47

OMG! What an episode! I can now forgive the dullfest that was much of season 2 as season 3 is more than making up for it.

Poor T-Dog. We finally get to see a little character development and bam! Walker food. At least he went out in a blaze of glory. Luckily, they have another bald black guy to take his place. I don't think for a minute that Carol is dead, I think the scarf is a red herring and a walker grabbed it off her as she escaped.

Not sure how I feel about Lori's death although that was some of the best acting we've seen from her to date. What tipped me over the edge was Maggie's reaction, especially when she saw Glenn and Rick, and then Rick's reaction <sob> Again, some cracking acting there. I wonder if Rick will be able to continue to lead the group knowing that his actions (in not killing the little prisoner dude when he had the chance) cost lives.

I was also wondering about how they're going to feed a baby. They've been on the road all winter and they knew there was a baby due...did no-one think to pick up some formula and nappies when they were raiding shops en route? You know, just in case?

Can't wait for next week now...what day is it shown in the US?

NellyBluth Wed 07-Nov-12 20:31:55

Its shown on Sunday, we rushed to download it on Monday evening when we got home from work!

God, yes, Maggie's reaction <gulp>

HarlettOScara Wed 07-Nov-12 20:33:34

Ah, I love being on maternity leave. I know what I'll be doing during DD's nap on Monday morning smile

Rachel130690 Wed 07-Nov-12 22:11:48

Harlett your response it exactly how I feel about it. I'm so glad I've finally good responses.

This season is way better in the 3 episodes so far than all of last season.

I did wonder why they hadn't picked baby formula and nappies up, not like she was pregnant for nine months hmm lori's acting in her last few minutes was excellent for better than the whole last 3 series. I'm glad she is dead as she annoyed the hell out of me but it was very sad.

Has anybody figured out why they killed all the army men in last weeks episode?

HarlettOScara Wed 07-Nov-12 22:19:02

My theory is that the soldiers would be too much of a risk to the Governor's finely engineered community - they wouldn't be prepared to toe his line and would be strong enough in numbers and skilled in combat to try to overthrow him and the other Woodbury militia.

Rachel130690 Wed 07-Nov-12 22:45:44

I did think they would of been excellent help but never thought of it that way, suppose they would if been too much of a risk.

Very strange about all the heads in water, this looks like a very promising series smile

ToffeeWhirl Thu 08-Nov-12 00:31:18

I missed an episode the week before last, so I'm a bit confused about who it is who got all the walkers into the prison - and why they would do it. Surely, they would just die too then? confused

I also found Lori's character very irritating, but was impressed with her final scene and the realism of the birth. I was terrified she was going to give birth to a zombie baby and so relieved when it seemed normal. Cried loads during her speech to her DS. It was heartbreaking. And the bloody door didn't shut properly, so I was constantly worried that the walkers were going to get in!

I agree that Lori would surely have thought about nappies and considered that she might not survive the birth and the baby might need formula, especially as she had needed a Caesarean before. Maybe you don't have time to plan this stuff during a zombie apocalypse though... Even if they do get hold of formula and bottles, will they be able to sterilise the bottles and boil the water safely? Do they even have running water in the prison?

I thought the Governor killed the soldiers because he didn't want extra mouths to feed or any threat to his power. He only wanted weapons. I think he wants the women to service the men and have babies. Am not sure why he won't let Merrell look for his brother though. Maybe he just doesn't want Merrell bringing more men back to the town?

Actually, so much happened in that episode that I think I'm going to have to watch it again. I did hide behind my cardi for the scarier bits, so might have missed some crucial scenes blush.

FairiesWearPoppies Thu 08-Nov-12 08:30:27

Thank you thank you for this thread!!! Marking place will be back later!

MrsAngelClare Thu 08-Nov-12 10:16:48

My theory on why the govenor shot the army men is because he doesn't want the people in Woodbury to know that the army stronghold was defeated by walkers. If his people find out that they are not as safe as he has led them to believe then maybe they will start questioning his authority/looking to leave. So, he had to shoot the soldiers rather than have them reveal that there is still a risk of Woodbury failing.
Loved episode 4, Rick's reaction was heart wrenching, great acting finally.

superoz Thu 08-Nov-12 12:57:48

It's been 2 days since I saw episode 4 and I'm still reeling - I wasn't expecting Lori to die. There was some brilliant acting in this episode - and poor T-Dog; Carol is still alive.
I didn't understand why Maggie didn't want to shoot Lori in the head after she died and just let her own son do it. Wasn't Lori telling her she had to do it during the birth?
I reckon the Army was taken out because they posed a threat to The Governor's power over Woodbury; he is the sole leader and did not want to bring people in who may want to take away some of his control. He probably also didn't want anyone to find his collection of heads in water tanks which would make him look like a psychopath. Which he most likely is.
I think that the women are being acquired for sex and baby breeding. Michonne (or the Mean Lady as we call her in our household) has already worked out what's going on, Andrea is just stupid and gone back to being really irritating again.

NellyBluth Thu 08-Nov-12 13:08:45

I thought Carl insisted that he would do it, because Lori was his mum?

I'm sure the Governor only wants men he can boss around in his town, military men would just be too much of a threat to his power. Andrea is stupid, but then I'd be just as stupid if David Morrissey was making eyes at me (yes, I really will bring up how much I fancy him every time I write something)

somewherewest Thu 08-Nov-12 13:36:29

Anyone remember the flashbacks in series 2 which showed the military bombing Atlanta though? Also I think there was a scene in series 1 where Shane was trying to get Rick out of hospital in the early days of the ZA and soldiers were shooting civilians. While the Governor is obviously pyscho, its possible that he and his crew know the military aren't exactly trustworthy post-ZA.

They have been practising performing c sections in the last few weeks. They knew it was very likely that she would have to have another section. They must have known it was also very likely that she would die in such a situation. Even if they could be sterile (unlikely) and have the right tools (unlikely), it's still probably going to happen.

Why did they not find some formula and nappies, or material to make nappies, over the last 8 months that they have been travelling? It makes no sense whatsoever.

Nelly - Lori was telling Maggie that she didn't want Rick having to shoot her once she was dead. But Karl insisted that he should be the one to do it.

I think that they have missed a trick with The Governer. It's a shame that they made it so obvious that he was evil from the start - they could have had some fum with it, because now it's just dull to watch. Waiting for everyone else to find out what we know.

Rachel130690 Thu 08-Nov-12 14:02:43

Toffee I love how your concerned about sterlising the bottles. Haha this would never of crossed my mind. I just thought about formula.

Do you think is there any way for the baby to be healthy? As everyone has the disease you'd assume they would too? God love anyone having a shot or knife a baby zombie

I would imagine that this means that they will be linking up with The Governer relatively soon - someone mentioned there that they have a woman about to give birth.

MunchMunch Thu 08-Nov-12 20:00:36

My theory is, carl closed his eyes when he shot Lori and missed, she is still alive only just though. Hershel manages to stitch her up and they hit the road to find a hospital to look for blood/supplies and come across the Guv'ner where Rick and the gang stay until they get suspicious of him.

I did notice at the end when they show the next episode that the scientist from woodbury gets bit so i gather they leave woodbury and maybe meet rick and co?

I agree Carole is still alive and as much as Lori annoyed me I felt it wasn't the right time for her to go.

Rachel130690 Thu 08-Nov-12 21:50:22

Oh Munch I hope your right as all that sounds very exciting smile

crikeybill Fri 09-Nov-12 14:13:21

munch sadly as good a theory as that it, I can conform Lori is dead.
I read an interview with the producers and writes who said that she is totally gone and that to have her wandering about as a zombie whould be disrespectful to her character.

However.....in the comics/books Rick does still have contact with her in a weird sort of a way. He constantly imagines he is on the phone to her talking and he talks/sorts thingthrough/makes decisions with her. The writers have said this is something they are willing to explore and may not mean the end of the actress appearing !!!

It was bloody brilliant though wasnt it !!!!! I havent stopped thinking about it since i watched it monday night !!

Skelacia Fri 09-Nov-12 17:09:14

Hooray! Other people who are too impatient to wait the whole 5 days for FX to catch up grin

They released some books which detail the Governor's back story as far as the TV series is concerned and having read them I completely understood why he killed the soldiers. There's 2 out so far of a trilogy, (book one here and book two here, I've linked to the Kindle editions but there are paperbacks too.)

Carol has to be alive, there was only 1 T-Dog sized ribcage where they found her scarf. Plus, they can't give Daryl a reason to be pissed off enough with the group to band back together with Merle.

somewherewest Fri 09-Nov-12 18:52:18

A not very informative sneak peak for Ep 5...


Interesting that they're digging three graves. Hope Carol is ok.

somewherewest Fri 09-Nov-12 18:54:08

And trailer! Excited...


redlac Fri 09-Nov-12 18:58:59

Following on from Lori not actually being dead DH has read all the comics and at one point a woman is mentioned from others in a community (not the governors) and he did say that he thought it would be Lori. Although the comics are v different from the TV series

NotAChocolateRaisin Fri 09-Nov-12 20:06:25

I definitely think the Governor has a no men more women thing for repopulation and that's why he shot the army guys. He has no need for more men and has sufficient security.

Cried about Lori even though I've always hated her!

Carol isn't dead IMO - if there's no body there no death...

The Governer killed the army men as he needs that community dependent upon him. It's his little kingdom and I imagine a load of trained men with plenty of skills and knowledge of what's going on out there is just the sort of thing he doesn't want upsetting the apple cart. I'm not at all shocked that he killed them. Plus, he likes having their supplies all to himself.

Lori is dead, there is no doubt in my mind. I dont think the actress would come back to schlump around as a zombie. I think they did the right thing. Her character wasn't redeemable, they did such a bad job with her. As for T-Dogg, well, I hope the writers know that we are all well aware of their replacing strategy! One black man for another? Come on! Once he had more than a few lines I knew he was a goner.

Carol isn't dead. She helps to anchor Daryl to the group, we didn't see her body, and I don't believe they would kill off another woman so soon. I don't understand why they showed her scarf though - she had it on her when she went through the door.

My theory re: Carol: she escaped through the door, running though walkers attracted to the ready meal that was T-Dog. A walker grabbed for her and caught her scarf but she escaped. Walker uses scarf as a napkin and drops it at the scene of the buffet.

And I also believe that the Guvnor didn't want the soldiers upsetting the fine balance of his carefully controlled community. They would have had the abililty and means to overthrow him/take him out as soon as they sussed that all is not as it seems in Stepford Woodbury.

I'm repeating myself about the soldiers, aren't I? Posting on two threads about TWD and can't keep up with what I've said where.

HarlettOScara Mon 12-Nov-12 13:47:55

Anyone else watched episode 5 yet?

I was halfway through earlier when I lost my connection... Will try again now (just had a nice doze with the DSs!)

somewherewest Mon 12-Nov-12 14:45:37

Will hopefully watch Ep5 this eve once DS is in bed. Apparently it contains scenes which will send the Daryl love on here through the roof grin.

!! It sure did smile

Hmm, i read two comic spoilers recently, one re Lori and one re the governor (that the person telling me was convinced wouldnt make it into the series). It would possibly seem from this episode that they both might stay "true" to the comics...? Are we going with this thread being completely spoilery, in which case I'll write about it, or just episode by episode spoilers? actually, i think the lori one might have been upthread?

Wondering if I should read them. Any opinions?

NotAChocolateRaisin Mon 12-Nov-12 19:10:33

Anyone seen Ep5?

I was really sad and downloaded it first thing this morning to watch.


Wasn't the best episode but having read the books I was interested to see Penny...

Chocolate, I think you may know what my General comic spoiler is, in that case!

General? Governor!

redlac Mon 12-Nov-12 20:16:29

Watching it now - and laughing at them making up a full bottle of milk to give a newborn smile

redlac Mon 12-Nov-12 20:19:20

<Spoiler>Ooooh they are following the comics now with Rick and the phone

And thats the other one grin

redlac Mon 12-Nov-12 20:21:17


So, I have to read the comics dont I...?

HarlettOScara Mon 12-Nov-12 20:26:15

I watched it this afternoon.

I think my ovaries twanged a little at the sight of Daryl with the baby grin

I thought this episode was a bit of an anticlimax after the drama of last week and still so many loose ends...where the hell is Carol? I know they dug her a grave (and I assume it's her grave that Darly left the cherokee rose on?). Why did they need such big holes when there was very little left of T-Dog, seemingly nothing of Lori and only Carol's scarf?

And who's on the phone? Is it Rick's imagination or one of those damn PPI reclaim cold callers ?

redlac Mon 12-Nov-12 20:26:36

I've not read them either. DH has read them and I'll read them once I've finished current book on kindle

somewherewest Mon 12-Nov-12 20:34:35

Maybe its Morgan? Remember Morgan grin.

Seriously, whoever it is, someone needs to do a parody in which a guy with a thick Indian accent tries to sell Rick home insulation.

NellyBluth Mon 12-Nov-12 21:50:00

redlac, I was pissing myself over that too. Because all newborns can down 8oz.

Not the best episode but its still a great season. Carol is definitely alive. But I'm confused - what happened to Lori's body? Had that zombie eaten it?!

Hopefully Michonne turns up at the prison at some point and that's how they find out about Woodbury that way. Michonne has to turn up. She's awesome.

NellyBluth Mon 12-Nov-12 21:51:40

Also, did anyone else known that Norman Reedus used to be with Helena Christensen?!

wintera Mon 12-Nov-12 21:59:57

Yeah, they've got a son called Mingus . . Poor lad!

NellyBluth Mon 12-Nov-12 22:06:00

Kind of want to float that name on the baby name board...

Honestly, I thought he was about 31 or something, not 43! Talk about aging well!

WickedGirl Tue 13-Nov-12 15:50:59

I thought that seeing daryl with the baby was really sweet......he looked chuffed (bless him)

HarlettOScara Tue 13-Nov-12 17:21:19

And only Daryl could rock a poncho...a tough look to pull off by anyone's reckoning.

ROUS Wed 14-Nov-12 18:54:42

I think I've rather spoiled Games of Thrones by reading the epic tomes. Should I/should n't I read about Walking Dead?

So pleased we carried on after such a poor series 2. It's all being set up with quite a few story threads....

I have deliberately not read the thread - can someone just let me know what episode you are up to so I know it's safe to read! I am up to date on UK showings, not US. Is it safe to read?

ROUS Wed 14-Nov-12 19:03:16

Bitter No 5 Say the Word - Have you seen Daryl in a poncho? No then look away grin

The last one I saw was the episode with Lori.

ROUS Wed 14-Nov-12 19:10:50

Think your one behind, you could read the first page.

NotAChocolateRaisin Wed 14-Nov-12 19:11:30

Darryls poncho! I couldn't work out whether he pulled it off or not...

(And I've read the books not the comics. *How do I get my hands on the comics?!*)

ROUS Wed 14-Nov-12 19:13:31

Do I read the books then, I think I want back story rather then future plot details.

Thanks, will bookmark and catch up next week smile

NotAChocolateRaisin Wed 14-Nov-12 19:19:25

If you read the first book "Rise of the Governor" then it just gives you the governers background. No spoilers now.

Its actually a really good book. Well-written.

Chocolate, I have the comics now, downloaded not strictly legally and readable on my ipad

HarlettOScara Wed 14-Nov-12 19:30:41

Beyond, hypothetically speaking, how would a person go about getting the comics on iPad? Not that I would ever procure something illegally, of course. Just interested in furthering my knowledge wink

Hypothetically, they could download a comic reader app, such as comic flow (which was free), then on a computer download the torrent of the comic, which they then email to the ipad email address and open with the comic reader.
The same way someone could possibly download copies of books for their kindle...

NotAChocolateRaisin Wed 14-Nov-12 19:48:29

This is interesting... good to know how these things work. Not that I would ever do it myself or anything, no, no, but in case one was threatened by a mugger who wanted to know such information....

Beyond, for my own safety in this potential mugging incident, what torrent site would you say was the best for the illigitimate comic downloader?

Ah, one would have to ask their DH who does all of the actual law breaking bit, but he is in work at the mo grin

NotAChocolateRaisin Wed 14-Nov-12 19:53:22

I'm sure Mr Google will help me!

of course everyone on this thread must be american to be up to date with the episodes... wink

NotAChocolateRaisin Wed 14-Nov-12 20:01:12

good point

ROUS Wed 14-Nov-12 20:46:20

EZTV really spoils the broadcast of television on commercial channels by making torrents available.
But of course you can't do that unless you have www.utorrent.com as well.

Honestly those pirates will ruin it from everyone

ROUS Wed 14-Nov-12 20:47:38

for everyone. Not sure about books at the moment.

NotAChocolateRaisin Wed 14-Nov-12 20:51:50

The books on Kindle are too expensive for me at the moment. I managed to get the 1st one on the cheap.

NotAChocolateRaisin Wed 14-Nov-12 20:53:42

CHEAP KINDLE VERSION OF 1ST WALKING DEAD BOOK It's just the background of the governer which I doubt will come into the TV Series. No spoilers for the TV series at all really. Completely seperate characters.

NotAChocolateRaisin Wed 14-Nov-12 20:55:51
HarlettOScara Wed 14-Nov-12 21:32:31

Totally agree about those bastard pirates, Rous

Thanks grin

HarlettOScara Wed 14-Nov-12 21:37:28

Just downloaded the first book too. Was going to get World War Z but balked at the £6.29 pricetag <tight> Mind you, with a 4.5 month old baby, I think I'm being very optimistic about my chances of getting to read it in the next 10 years forseeable future.

May I refer you to the last sentence of my post of 19.37 harlett ... grin
You will get it finished, I managed it with a 6m old and a 2yo

If you have a kindle email address though (does every kindle have one?) and wanna pm it to me, I can send you WWZ

HarlettOScara Wed 14-Nov-12 22:11:10

I missed that, Beyond but I'll happily take you up on your offer of a copy. I'll just check my Kindle email address and PM you.

In awe that you are finding time to read with 2 wee ones. I'm obviously doing something wrong grin

wintera Wed 14-Nov-12 22:13:39

I've just ordered world war z on the kindle. But I also have a four month old so we'll see how it goes!

grin I started reading it at 7.30pm as I was putting the youngest to sleep, put it down at gone midnight, then finished off the last hour or so the next day

Skelacia Thu 15-Nov-12 14:06:54

I would say though, if you read the Rise of the Governor you may end up like me screaming at the TV about what is wrong and why they set up back story specific to the TV series if they were seemingly going to ignore it. wink

ProjectNice Thu 15-Nov-12 14:13:23

Don't say that I'm 67% through...

Skelacia Thu 15-Nov-12 14:21:09

I am assuming they'll pull it all together at some point, maybe the mid season finale, but I do spend a chunk of Monday night ranting with my too-impatient-to-wait-for-Friday friends about it grin

itsatrap Fri 16-Nov-12 15:05:49

I'm a little confused regarding the books. Was looking on Amazon to get books for dp, I got 'compendium 1', then I see the books you refer to on here 'rise of the governor etc. What's the difference? Are they related to each other / TVs series? Tia.

Anyway, back to the thread, can't wait for tonight's episode! Any bets on who will be next to become zombie fodder?

Really missing Darryl in the comics sad

NotAChocolateRaisin Fri 16-Nov-12 18:32:30

itsatrap - no idea about the books. Confused me for ages but the links I put up are deffo the books linked to the series.

itsatrap Sat 17-Nov-12 21:01:02

Thanks nota ill get both, cover all my bases!

Blondeshavemorefun Sun 18-Nov-12 01:20:15

How come maggies hands were covered in blood when she brought the baby out into the yard - but the baby was clean - would be a not stained with blood

Also she didn't cut the cord / you saw her lift the baby out of stomach and cord attached but that was it

And 8oz - be lucky to get 1 oz down baby.

I night nanny for 9week prem twins (now 12 weeks old but really 3 iyswim) and one baby has just only just started to tar 2.5oz

Melty Mon 19-Nov-12 13:50:09

I have sinned and watched the new episode.
Michonne kicks ass.
Am now seriously needing to see next weeks.

Blondeshavemorefun Mon 19-Nov-12 15:59:21

shame on you melty shock

redlac Mon 19-Nov-12 21:07:44

I'm watching it now Melty smile

Melty Mon 19-Nov-12 21:22:23

Its a very very good episode.
And I hate Andrea. (or the actions of Andrea)

ListenUpIdBeAGreatLifeCoachMe Tue 20-Nov-12 06:06:01

I need to see next weeks, I dislike the coming up next week bit when the man with the special voice suggests we look at the official website for more. I want 60 minutes more nnot just a quick flash of possibilites.

bettys Tue 20-Nov-12 06:51:52

Loved that last scene with Michonne! She is so cool (and her way of spelling is darkly funny). How wrong is Andrea, she is going to feel so bad! She is the new Lori as far as disliking a character.
And Daryl showed a much softer side to himself, I can't see a reunion with Merle going down well at all.

ListenUpIdBeAGreatLifeCoachMe Tue 20-Nov-12 09:49:46

Andrea the new Lori, not sure whether it's the script or whether these two women can't express more than one emotion. Compare them to Egg who seems to be able to show fear, lack of confidence, leadership, etc they're a bit 'thin'.

wintera Tue 20-Nov-12 10:54:52

Andrea has always been an annoying bugger though! Thank god for Michonne and Maggie or all the women characters would be useless bints. And Carol if she ever comes back, I was starting to like her as well. Much better this season.

Such a shame what they've done with Andrea, she was a good character in the first season too. In the first season she had really good chemistry with Rick, I always thought they would end up together if anything happened to Lori. Am not so sure now though!

HarlettOScara Tue 20-Nov-12 10:56:15

I wasn't the only one hoping that the walker would get Andrea when she went over the wall then? I disliked her from the beginning, then she redeemed herself a bit towards the end of series 2 and now I dislike her even mor than I did originally now.

Michonne, on the other hand, is rapidly becoming my favourite character. When the ZA happens, she'll be my inspiration <adds katana to Christmas list> That last scene by the fence was amazing. Sh managed to convey more emotion in one look than Lori and Andrea have expressed in 3 seasons!

Now the long wait for next weeks episode starts ...

Just watched it now... Another brilliant episode smile
Now to try to find something to occupy me for a week again!!

Melty Tue 20-Nov-12 20:57:53

Michonne is pretty nifty with that sword thingy.
I still didnt expect her to chop anyones head off.
(I am not a nice person, I laughed at the Bitergram.)
And smart too. I was impressed that she kept her head down while Merle was being an ass. She likes to suss out the lay of the land before getting involved. Unlike Andrea. Ok I can cut her some slack because, warm showers, iced drinks and David Morrissey look pretty good.
Yes, we all know that the Gov (and his amazing aquarium) is evil. And from where she stands lies things look pretty good in the creepy village. But she's only been there a couple of days and she has jumped into the sack already. Suss it out a bit first woman. Get to know his zombie family. This is a world where people kill each other just because they look at you funny. It's the too good to be true rule. Even more true in a Zombie apocolypse.

Also, major points to Michonne for bringing the shopping.

Wondering though, why oh why do Glenn and Maggie always act like they are having a stroll in the park pre zombies whenever they are out together. Zombies or evil Merles are always sneaking up on them.

ToffeeWhirl Tue 20-Nov-12 21:45:55

Just watched latest episode. I laughed at the Bitergram bit too, Melty grin. And I am becoming strangely immune to the gore. I even sniggered at Michonne's spelling of 'Go Back'.

Am finding Andrea increasingly annoying and Michelle increasingly admirable.

Are we allowed to discuss any more than that? Has everyone seen it?

I think its fair to discuss it on this thread any time after its shown in America, there is a spoiler warning...?

ToffeeWhirl Tue 20-Nov-12 23:40:17

Oh good.

I thought the stomach contents spilling all over Michonne was gratuituous, but it turned out to be vital to the storyline. Very clever.

crikeybill Wed 21-Nov-12 13:11:39

Another amazing episode.

I cant bear Andrea. She is the nnew Lori I agree. What an idiot !!

I really hope Darryl kicks Merles butt but I have a horrible feeling he wont and his loyalties will be tied !!

WTF was whats her face doing in the cupboard for 3 days !!!!! How did she get in there ??

ToffeeWhirl Wed 21-Nov-12 13:26:21

Maybe the door locked shut behind her? Remember your mum's advice - never shut yourself in a wardrobe wink?

crikeybill Wed 21-Nov-12 13:28:52

Lol yes very true grin

NotAChocolateRaisin Thu 22-Nov-12 13:25:18

I really hope Merle and Darryl don't have a good reunion. I love Darryl!
I think it is unlikely anyway because Darryl brings up the bad side of his brother more and more in conversation as the series goes along.
eg. "I went to go play with the other kids - I could do that when Merle was gone" etc etc

I HATE Andrea. It's always been a toss up for me over who is worse, Andrea or Lori and I think Lori redeemed herself slightly before kicking the bucket so now I can comfortably hate Andrea!

All worried about Glenn and Maggie! sad love them!

And was all "YEAH!!!" when Michonne turned up - and previous poster is right; was good of her to bring the shopping grin

NotAChocolateRaisin Thu 22-Nov-12 13:25:41

And Hooray for Carol!

HarlettOScara Thu 22-Nov-12 13:43:51

I assume Carol hid behind that door to protect herself after she ls her knife (stuck in the walker that crept up behind Daryl et al. in the cell). She probably didn't know when it was safe to come out and didn't want to risk it unarmed.

NotAChocolateRaisin Thu 22-Nov-12 16:12:06

agree with HarlettOScara

Skelacia Fri 23-Nov-12 13:45:00

I'm still pissed off with Andrea for trying to shoot Daryl last season. I hope a zombie eats her (or she ends up a head in The Governors collection)

WickedGirl Fri 23-Nov-12 13:53:14

I am glad carol is alive, she is lovely

Andrea can be fed to the zombies as far as I'm concerned

HarlettOScara Fri 23-Nov-12 13:58:21

I think I remember that there was a dead walker in front of the door that Carol was hiding behind too. Didn't Daryl have to drag it out of the way to open the door when he psyched himself up to kill the walker he presumed was behind it? That would also have been preventing her from getting out.

I'm just pissed off with Andrea in general and would be happy to see her head in a tank. However, it will be interesting to see her reaction to Rick and the others pitching up in Woodbury. Will she be glad to be reunited? Or resentful at being left behind at the farm?

wintera Fri 23-Nov-12 17:45:27

Andrea will probably be all pissed off with them cos she's that type of person let's be honest. Also she's bound to have a go at Rick when she finds out that he's killed Shane as well.

getagoldtoof Fri 23-Nov-12 21:21:31

I still miss Shane. I know all he ever did was march around and kneel down and do big frowns, but he was a bit sexy and nobody else is on walking dead anymore. The gov just isn't my type :-( rick is just egg, not sexy at all.

HarlettOScara Fri 23-Nov-12 21:46:53

getagold, come here 'til I check you for a pulse. how can you not find this sexy?

HarlettOScara Fri 23-Nov-12 21:53:55
Melty Fri 23-Nov-12 22:31:22
NotAChocolateRaisin Fri 23-Nov-12 23:34:06

Didn't realise that Norman Reedus (Daryl) was 43! Thought he was much younger than that!

wintera Fri 23-Nov-12 23:37:19

God no way was Shane sexy! He looked like a big dumb donkey!

WhatwouldGemmado Fri 23-Nov-12 23:56:30

Harlett, I have one of those Cheap Trick t shirts!!!

WhatwouldGemmado Fri 23-Nov-12 23:58:20

So, I think Carol was trapped. Didn't have the strength to open the door with the walker on the other side. Nice to see her back.

wintera Sat 24-Nov-12 07:59:23

Anyone else remember Norman Reedus being in charmed? He went out with Paige for a few episodes.

redlac Sat 24-Nov-12 08:04:06

I agree Shane was NOT sexy - his face looked like it was made from play doh

2Old2BeAChristmasElf Sat 24-Nov-12 08:19:32

Is it sad that I almost cried when Darryl found Carol? I knew she was alive smile <punches air with fist>

However I didn't shred a tear when Lori bit the dust, sorry she was too whiney for me. Oh and don't get me stated on Andrea, flipping heck woman have some control and realise he's a baddun!

NoHank Sat 24-Nov-12 08:19:55

This series is really kicking series 2's backside.

I am so glad about Carol. Watching Daryl psych himself him to kill her made me all emotional. I'm sure he knew it was Carol behind the door and thought she had been turned. If it had been anyone else he would have just walked straight in and got it done.

And Michonne, just wow. Yes she is fantastic with that sword but I agree, there was so much emotion expressed in that one look at the prison fence. She looked really vulnerable. It was like she knew she had found someone she could trust and desperately needed them to trust her too. reads far to much into one look

And yes, very good of her to bring the shopping grin Although the red shopping basket kinda ruined her badass look!

NoHank Sat 24-Nov-12 08:21:35


I have a headache, not a hangover from drinking too much wine whilst watching The Walking Dead

2Old2BeAChristmasElf Sat 24-Nov-12 08:23:31

NoHank, I totally agree, her acting is amazing. She is the strong female character that has been needed smile

sherzy Sat 24-Nov-12 11:36:54

Anyone pick up what Lori said on the phone to Rick? Was she confirming the baby was his???

HarlettOScara Sat 24-Nov-12 12:02:34

Just rewatching it now and Lori does say 'our baby' on the phone but really all she says is to ask Rick to look after Carl and the baby and then the line goes fuzzier and fuzzier which I think is supposed to represent Rick coming to his senses.

Some amazing acting from Andrew Lincoln again in this episode.

sherzy Sat 24-Nov-12 12:06:37

Thanks, I was never clear whether it could have been Rick's or definitely Shanes.

NotAChocolateRaisin Sat 24-Nov-12 12:16:04

Let's face it - with Lori, the baby could be anyone's!

HarlettOScara Sat 24-Nov-12 12:17:58

I don't think it's meant to be clear who the father is. I guess even Lori couldn't have known for sure but given his last 'conversation' with her on the phone where he obviously regretted how things had been between them at the end and his plans to have found somewhere to keep them all safe, I think assuming the baby is his and treating her as such and protecting her is his way of making things right.

HarlettOScara Sat 24-Nov-12 12:19:09

But if the baby grows up to resemble a donkey and have slightly sociopathic tenddencies, then I guess we'll have our answer grin

HarlettOScara Sat 24-Nov-12 12:20:32

2 Ds in tendencies? Really? hmm Can't even blame the ipad/iphone as I'm on the laptop for a change [crap typist emoticon]

sherzy Sat 24-Nov-12 12:35:22

Ah that makes sense, couldn't bloody hear it last night, deleted it off sky + for some unknown reason and then thought about it ever since! Totally missed the goveners with his daughter as well, not sure how that happened???

HarlettOScara Sat 24-Nov-12 12:39:16

Governor & daughter were at the very start of the episode, before the opening credits, iirc. Your sky box may have cut it off if there was a clash with another programme recording just ending. Happens all the time on mine.

wintera Sat 24-Nov-12 12:44:37

Andrea reminds me of those women - and we all know them - pretty, clever etc seem to have their head screwed on, but when it comes to men, they are total bloody arsehole magnets!!

dalek Sat 24-Nov-12 17:42:54

What was the Bitergram bit? Don't remember it.

HarlettOScara Sat 24-Nov-12 17:56:59

At the beginning of the episode, Merle and the expendable Woodbury crew find walker bits arranged on the ground in the woods spelling out GO BACK. Think it was just before Michonne ambushed them and took out 2 of them.

FivesAndNorks Sat 24-Nov-12 17:58:34

<shields eyes>
We missed this last night, DH has promised we can watch tonight I CAN'T WAIT

dalek Sat 24-Nov-12 19:18:27

Thanks Harlett - I saw that bit but hadn't realised that's what everyone was referring to.

HarlettOScara Sat 24-Nov-12 19:21:01

Merle referred to it as Michonne leaving them a bitergram smile. Fit got to say that in my previous post.

HarlettOScara Sat 24-Nov-12 19:22:11

Forgot. Not fit. Fecking fat fingers incompatible with Apple products hmm

somewherewest Sat 24-Nov-12 20:43:48

I think we need a zombie apocalypse AIBU board.

New DP wants me to babysit his zombified daughter while he re-arranges the severed heads in his fishtank. WIBU to say no?

Tesco Direct delivery was two days late and delivered by gore-spattered glowering woman with sword. AIBU complaining?

ToffeeWhirl Sat 24-Nov-12 21:02:00


sherzy Sat 24-Nov-12 21:24:00

Ah thanks, I bet we fast forwarded through that bit or it clashed sad

HarlettOScara Sat 24-Nov-12 21:28:37

grin @ somewherewest

YABU to order from Tesco. If you ordered from Ocado you'd get Daryl in a cabbage van and he'd have freshly slaughtered your side of vension en route.

FivesAndNorks Sat 24-Nov-12 21:50:58

wow wow wiw
how did michonne not get bitten
and how come daryl has suitcases under his eyes, has he not slept all series?

HarlettOScara Sat 24-Nov-12 22:14:35

Michonne is covered in walker guts from the one that she disembowled and the entrailes spilled all over her. Because she smells like a walker, they think she is one of them and ignore her. Same as when Rick and Glenn covered themselves in guts way back at the beginning of the first series so that they could escape from Atlanta.

FivesAndNorks Sat 24-Nov-12 22:16:00

Yes but they really had to cover themselves in blood and guts, and they had anerve wracking walk with some close shaves. She's just mingling.

FivesAndNorks Sat 24-Nov-12 22:17:24

If a bit of eau de zombie was all it took to survive long term then they'd all be doing it - they'd have set up some sort of system

I guess it could make a difference this time that there are not-covered-in-zombie-guts-people on the other side of the fence, so they are focussing on them more than the woman walking next to them who smells a little bit dead?

NotAChocolateRaisin Sun 25-Nov-12 08:05:20

Can Zombies smell fear? Because with Rick and Glenn they were rather suspicious and must have stank of fear then. That could've given them away (or at least to the point of suspicion).

Plus they just wiped themselves down, she was completely spilled upon...

PatTheHammer Sun 25-Nov-12 08:46:47

Good grief, why have I never seen this thread on MN before till now????

Just read through and am grin at Daryl bringing the Ocado delivery in the cabbage van!

Myself and DH are massively into this show, it's got to be just about the best thing we are watching at the moment. I wholeheartedly agree with most of your character assessments too.
In short I think the group is much better off now as they have:
Lori =Out
Michonne =In
Even with the hinderance of a newborn Michonne will make up for that with her awesomeness.

New big prisoner guy =in

That guy will NOT put up with any racist shit from Merle, when he reappears, like T-dog used to.

Based on the principle of if you smell like a walker they are not interested why don't the prison group tie lots of captive walkers around the perimeter fence (making them harmless by cutting off their jaws and arms first)? I'd remove their voiceboxes too so they don't make that annoying zombie noise all the time and there you go, safe!

So, are the guv and the Woodbury lot planning a full on assault on the prison lot? Presumably to steal their goodies, children and women-folk and to get some fresh flesh for the captive zombies? Or do the Woodbury folk eat human flesh too??

getagoldtoof Sun 25-Nov-12 14:56:45

I am just so excited about the next episode.

So I'm the only Shane lover then...? Surprising. I would gladly have the plasticine donkey to myself though wink, have always had a tendancy for sociopathic thickos!

SilverSky Sun 25-Nov-12 16:06:03

Our crap Sky+ missed the beginning too.

I LOVED this weeks episode. The ending was AWESOME.

Micchone is über cool and I'm so happy she turned up at the prison at the end. With the formula. Did anyone else think "feck, that's a big newborn!"?

Will Herschel's other daughter get any lines? Yeah prob before she gets bitten.

I wondered if Andrea is just playing a big fat game? Not sure exactly what she wants to achieve but it's a thought I had.

Wonder how long til Andrea is permitted to bump into Glen and Maggie? Bet she makes their lives hell. I reckon Rick et al will pitch up Woodbury. Can't see Glen giving out the camp details. They need to protect the location for as long as possible.

Oooh it's getting good!!

Melty Sun 25-Nov-12 16:27:28

I am worrried for Maggie.
Knowing what happened to Michonne in the books, makes me v nervous.

PatTheHammer Sun 25-Nov-12 16:30:25

Uh-oh....what happened to Michonne in the books Melty?

I'm not that far yet... Intriguing...
<off to keep reading>

FivesAndNorks Sun 25-Nov-12 17:06:31

Also why didnt Michonne just get Merle? She can handle 17 zombies at once, surely she could have crept up on an unsuspecting merle and had her knife in his head before he could react

SilverSky Sun 25-Nov-12 17:25:46

Perhaps cos injured? What happened to Michonne? confusedhmm

FivesAndNorks Sun 25-Nov-12 17:58:23

well maybe but tbh if she'd had a zombie near her I'm sure she'd have managed.
Se;f preservation I sppose and who can blame her

Melty Sun 25-Nov-12 17:59:02

I can pm anyone who wants to know, but I don't want to spoil the thread, even if it is a spoilery thread. Its still only a week ahead spoiler.

PatTheHammer Sun 25-Nov-12 18:18:48

Does Michonne become a walker and eat the baby???grin

Only joking, whatever it is they haven't always been sticking to the books have they, do you think its something they will do or a storyline they will change if she's a popular character?

GrrrArghZzzzYaayforall8nights Sun 25-Nov-12 18:52:18

Melty, I'm nervous as well, it does look like they are putting Maggie into Michonne's comic place for the Woodbury bit.

Melty Sun 25-Nov-12 18:57:26

No, the books are different to the show, but they do have similar things happening to other characters.
Mind you, in the comic Sophia doesnt become walker dinner for ages, she is still alive at the prison. Carol goes bonkers so Glenn and Maggie adopt her along with 2 other kids. Oh and Lori doesnt die in childbirth and they call the baby Judith. Prefer Lil Ass Kicker myself. grin

somewherewest Sun 25-Nov-12 19:43:09

Will Herschel's other daughter get any lines? Yeah prob before she gets bitten.

Poor girl has 'redshirt' written all over her. Ditto Axel.

sherzy Sun 25-Nov-12 20:16:12

Just bought S1 on DVD for dh for Xmas though don't want to wait that long to research it all. Definitely getting the book. Is it one long book or a series?

Agree Michonne is amazing, a great addition. I definitely over think this programme though. How are they sterilising the baby bottles? How will they keep it quiet when a zombie is nearby? Questions I would worry about if there was a real ZA.

HarlettOScara Sun 25-Nov-12 20:35:53

Bottles can be sterilised by boiling in water. But I guess in the midst of a zombie apocalypse where everyone is infected, squeaky clean bottles may not be a priority.

And I guess they just make sure baby is always in the care of someone Daryl who is armed to he teeth and ready to tak out any walkers it may attract with its crying.

Not that if given it any real thought at all. Oh no. Not at all.

sherzy Sun 25-Nov-12 20:41:23

My biggest ZA fear is keeping us all alive with a very strong willed and loud 2 yo.

''Shush dd, we need to be quiet the zombies are outside''

''no I don't want to! Arghhh''

FivesAndNorks Sun 25-Nov-12 20:44:32

Yes I'm guessing sterile bottles aren't that high on their list of priorities. They may even wean early grin
That said, that baby must be at huge risk of death from infection sad poor little thing. I comfort myself with the thought that irl she / they go back to their warm safe house for a cuddle with their loving families

HarlettOScara Sun 25-Nov-12 20:56:38

Oh bless you, Norks grin

My DD will appear (briefly) in a TV series that will air next year. I can absolutely verify that there are very strict rules about filming with babies and they are very well treated. A parent will have been on set at all times and there are a few babies in standby in case one is feeding or too unsettled to film. if I hadn't been happy with any aspect of what was going on, I was able to call a halt and remove her but I didn't need to as we were so well looked after. Plus there's a fake baby used for any 'dangerous' scenes where GE actors ate running/fighting etc. I've already spotted TWD's fake baby although hey are incredibly realistic looking.

HarlettOScara Sun 25-Nov-12 20:57:33

GE? the. Stoopid auto correct!

wintera Sun 25-Nov-12 23:02:00

I haven't read the graphic novels but am aware of what was inflicted on Michonne by the Gov in the comics though. Doesn't look like that's going to happen in the tv show. I hope to God they don't change it to Maggie. Would be awful that!

NotAChocolateRaisin Mon 26-Nov-12 11:55:25


Am dying for next weeks episode now (the mid-season finale...booo!)

This weeks episode was horrible. Had to skip bits for the first time! sad

FivesAndNorks Mon 26-Nov-12 12:24:42

Is it a definite then that the phone calls were just Ricks subconscious working hrough his issues?

HarlettOScara Mon 26-Nov-12 13:47:40

Yes, definitely all in Rick's head. The voices on the phone were Amy (Andrea's sister), Jacqui and Jim who all died in the first season (I think).

HarlettOScara Mon 26-Nov-12 13:48:18

And Lori, of course.

Melty Mon 26-Nov-12 14:52:22

God, that was grim.
I was really scared.
David Morrissey does the psycho really well.

bettys Mon 26-Nov-12 16:56:16

He is not nice, the Governor.
That was the most talking Michonne has ever done. She is the business, Andrea is such a fool.

NotAChocolateRaisin Mon 26-Nov-12 17:01:49

Are we talking about the latest episode? Are we allowed to talk about it?!

*so excited

Melty Mon 26-Nov-12 17:06:09

Favourite lines:
Lassie went home
Remember the Alamo.

It was very tight, and I was perched on the edge of the sofa. This season is about 10 times better than last season.
Oh and Yay Glenn.

NotAChocolateRaisin Mon 26-Nov-12 17:08:31

This episode was so tense! Fantastic acting all round and they really got the atmosphere going re; the governer.
Can not wait until next weeks episode.

wintera Mon 26-Nov-12 17:36:41

I really hate how America has mid- season breaks! Its crap! I'd rather wait longer and have the whole season in one. Now we're gonna be really into it and then have to wait till Feb next year for it to come back after its break!

NotAChocolateRaisin Mon 26-Nov-12 17:38:04

Feb next year??? nooooo

Melty Mon 26-Nov-12 17:39:00

How has Andrea any white underpants? Surely they'd be a bit grey by now?
And really, a Thong?

wintera Mon 26-Nov-12 17:57:00

Agree about Andrea looking remarkably well these days. She'd only been in Woodbury about two minutes and her hair looked like it had been done and she had new make up on - the works!

At least Lori always looked the part with that long tatty looking mane she always had!

Melty Mon 26-Nov-12 18:02:42

And Poor Maggie, I was so worried about her. I wonder why they stoped short? Mind you, he was equally as menacing as if he had done the deed.

Did you notice, her hair went from rats tailey to shiny while waiting for the Guvna.

ToffeeWhirl Mon 26-Nov-12 20:13:58

I shouldn't be reading this as I haven't watched the latest episode yet (will be watching as soon as I have settled DS2), but am distraught to hear there is a mid-season break. Please tell me it's not true. I look forward to this programme every week sad.

Actually, your hints have got me even more excited. What did the Guvnor stop short of with Maggie? What deed?

<hurls DS2 into bed>

wintera Mon 26-Nov-12 22:15:56

There is definitely a mid season break. All the American shows do it but most of the time, when they are shown in Britain they are shown later so then the whole season can be shown in its entirety. But fx shows the walking dead just a few days after so we'll get the break too. They did it last year as well if you remember. If its the same then it will be back in Feb next year.

ToffeeWhirl Mon 26-Nov-12 22:41:13

You are right. They said so at the end of the show sad. I don't know how I'll wait until February.

It was another great episode. Poor Glenn and Maggie. Boos to Andrea and the Guvnor. Lustful looks at Darren.

Loved the throbbing, suspense-building music at the end.

HarlettOScara Tue 27-Nov-12 07:10:23

Mid season finale. Noooooooo! <wails>

We may need to set up a support group to get us through 2 months without new episodes.

Another blinder of an episode. My god, the tension...it just didn't let up.

Daryl is getting all the best lines. Loved him packing tear gas and flash bangs into the back of the car like he was packing groceries smile Can't wait to see how the divided loyalties thing will play out between him and Merle.

ToffeeWhirl Tue 27-Nov-12 10:35:08

Yes to a support group, Harlett!

My DS2 (7) told me yesterday that he now plays 'zombie apocalypse' at playtime grin. He is very put out that we won't let him watch this programme we love so much.

WickedGirl Tue 27-Nov-12 12:03:43

Poor Maggie.

Poor glen

Can someone please feed Andrea to the zombies.....she is such a pathetic, weak person.

The governor is nasty. Can't wait till next weeks. Do you think they'll get Glenn and maggie back?

wintera Tue 27-Nov-12 16:48:12

The actress who plays Andrea must be so pissed off with what's happening to her character. I am sure I saw an interview with her at the end of season two and she was saying she was really looking forward to the next season because Andrea was going to be all no nonsense and kick ass! Instead they've made her more annoying than ever and she's probably taken over from Lori in that she's the character the viewers love to hate! Poor cow!

NotAChocolateRaisin Tue 27-Nov-12 20:12:28

I think someone significant is going to die for the midseason finale. Seemed that way in the trailer and it makes logistical sense...

wintera Tue 27-Nov-12 20:14:35

Aww hope its not Glenn or Maggie. I think they make a sweet couple.

NotAChocolateRaisin Tue 27-Nov-12 20:40:03

They surely can't kill of Glenn or Maggie - I for one would lose faith/interest in the program!

HarlettOScara Tue 27-Nov-12 20:51:12

Merle, maybe? Daryl forced to kill him?

NotAChocolateRaisin Tue 27-Nov-12 20:56:05

Nah - its bound to be a "positive" character. Ie. one of Ricks group. Maybe they'll bottle it and kill off Beth?

HarlettOScara Tue 27-Nov-12 23:48:52

Beth would be no loss. She's the new T-Dog...minimal lines and no character development.

Melty Wed 28-Nov-12 02:29:41

I think its Oscar. To make way for the next black strong male character.
Some of the boards are calling it Blacklander. "There can only be one" !

Have read what happens at the end of the episode, and we will all be shrieking.

VintageNancy Wed 28-Nov-12 05:00:54

Just found this thread. We love TWD; we're in the US so get to watch it "live" on Sunday nights after DD is in bed.

Can I join the Daryl-loving, Andrea-hating club?

wintera Wed 28-Nov-12 07:27:11

It's all heading towards a big battle isn't it? And I can't help but think about why we were shown the gladiator style fighting the other week as well. Am sure that's going to be important too. Like our good guys will be forced to fight in the ring or something? Am very worried for them!

Aspiemum2 Wed 28-Nov-12 07:30:27

They can't kill off Glenn or Maggie sad. They can kill Andrea, I'm ok with that but no one else!

wintera Wed 28-Nov-12 09:34:17

Andrea won't die. She is too important to the gov. She'll be in the middle and she may even betray our guys. After all they kind of left her behind so there'll be no love lost. She should remain loyal to Michonne though surely?

wintera Wed 28-Nov-12 09:36:01

I've got visions of Merle and Darryl fighting in the gladiator ring. Or Rick against the gov . .

Aspiemum2 Wed 28-Nov-12 09:38:32

Lovely Darryl, I'm dreading the reunion as you just know that Merle is a nasty piece of work and I don't think the brotherly bond would stop him.
I can't wait anymore so I am getting the books for myself dh for Christmas grin

mumnosbest Wed 28-Nov-12 09:57:15

Only just found you. Just in time for the long wait till feb sad
Maybe Michonne will be killed off and that will convince Andrea to stop being a whimp and go back to the good guys.
There are books? Amazon here i come!

NotAChocolateRaisin Wed 28-Nov-12 10:42:57

I have a horrible feeling its going to be Glenn and Maggie. They'll play up the couple thing and kill them together

mumnosbest Wed 28-Nov-12 12:01:43

You could be right. There's no room for all that luvvy duvvy stuff anyway, much as i like them.

ToffeeWhirl Wed 28-Nov-12 12:25:25

No, no, no, not Glenn and Maggie!

NotAChocolateRaisin Wed 28-Nov-12 14:41:42

I will be absolutely gutted if Glenn and Maggie go. Anyone but them and Darryl...

ToffeeWhirl Wed 28-Nov-12 16:14:24

The producers would be mad to get rid of Darryl, but Glenn and Maggie (or just one of them sad) are possible.

Oh dear. Am really worried about what's going to happen now...

Chelvis Wed 28-Nov-12 16:53:39

I will cry if Glenn or Maggie dies sad I always feel like Glenn is meant to be the ordinary person in this, the one who represents most of us - not die hard brave, not a coward, just trying his best to get by and look after the people he cares about. I love the Maggie-Glenn romance too.

ToffeeWhirl Wed 28-Nov-12 17:05:07

I can see what you mean about Glenn representing 'everyman', Chelvis. And somehow, even though he has learnt to fight off zombies with the rest of them, he remains uncorrupted and sweet-natured.

UrbanSpaceManBaby Wed 28-Nov-12 17:15:18

Ok here's my theory based no no evidence than what I've seen so far and an overactive imagination.

Andrea will kick some arse in the next few episodes when she realizes what the Governor did to Maggie.

Merle will be bitten by the Governors daughter.

There will be a weird unpleasant bit involving the zoombie arena bit.

All the towns folk will die since they don't get any lines at all.

baby Judith will be a pfb, G & T, discover baby lead weaning and quickly sleep through the night despite the lack of carer consistencey. Bet it's potty trained by 12 months. No one will ever look slightly haunted exhausted everytime it wakes up, and they'll all be able to always drink an entire cup of tea whilst it's still warm.

Beth will reject Carl's clumsy testosterone filled advances and Carl will panic and kill her, claiming she got bit by a walker and he had to do it; Daryl 'no shit Sherlock' will figure out what happened, Rick will be forced into a moral conflict.

There' got to be Zoombie dog at one stage, slightly disappointed it was n't in the last episode.

WickedGirl Wed 28-Nov-12 22:12:31

How did that man survive for so long in the hunters cabin? He was right in the middle of the "red zone"

HarlettOScara Wed 28-Nov-12 22:34:34

Rednecks have the survival skills necessary in a ZA situation...just look at Merle and Daryl.

FivesAndNorks Fri 30-Nov-12 23:16:40

I was wondering that. He seemed to have no awaremess of anything amiss wiith his ill call the police comment. That said I think the walkers followed Rick etc there so maybe by chance they'd just not found him.


Very worried that when governors people turn up at prison therll only be carol and Carl who can fight

wintera Sat 01-Dec-12 08:59:30

I've just put this on the other thread as well but I reckon Merle will be in deep Shit with the Gov when he realises Michonne is still alive!


Anyone else seen it yet? How are we going to wait unti February?

Aspiemum2 Mon 03-Dec-12 11:00:59

Hopefully watching it tonight, is it good?

Oh, it's good alright. And completely not how I expected it to go.

Aspiemum2 Mon 03-Dec-12 12:08:18

Aah, I shall have to put the dc's to bed early! I'll be back later...

Melty Mon 03-Dec-12 19:11:35

Holy Crap is all I can say.
I actually screamed when you know who did that thing to you know him.
I had read a spoiler so I knew what the end scene would be and I knew who was going to die.
But damm. That was good.

When you know who did the thing to you know him, it's actually probably one of the most stomach churning moments of the show for me.

Oh hurry up and watch it, everyone. I want to talk about this in detail grin

TV is going to be shite between now and February. But then we have 8 more episodes to look forward to. And then Game of Thrones starts at the end of March to fill the void that TWD will leave in my viewing schedule.

Apparently back on in the US on 10th Feb.

Aspiemum2 Mon 03-Dec-12 19:50:38

Dammit, dc's are still ruining decorating the Christmas tree. It looks shit, I don't care - they're going to bed!! Dh's present of the first 2 compendiums arrived today - would it be bad form to read it before I wrap??

bettys Mon 03-Dec-12 19:59:07

So, that last scene at the end, is the Governor really pissed off with Merle about Michonne or is it a double deception to somehow gain entry to the prison? And how gobsmacked was Andrea?

I think given what Michonne did, he's genuinely pissed off at Merle. Although I don't think he believes that Merle was in cahoots with Daryl all along.

Loved Glenn's improvisation of a weapon and he way he handed it over to Maggie. Is that the equivalent of saying it with flowers in a post apocalyptic world?

getagoldtoof Mon 03-Dec-12 20:33:22

wintera you clever sausage. On the right tracks entirely. Very impressive.

In post-apocolypse zombie-ville I would like you as a detective/fortune teller.

Oh and rofl at poor Oscar. We knew he was done for from the 1st scene, didn't we!? There was another black guy in town! (New black guy played Mike (I think) in The Wire. Great actor and Mike was a brilliant character.)

Yes, I see the one black guy at a time quota is being strictly enforced.

Melty Mon 03-Dec-12 20:51:15

Tyrese was pretty awesome in the comics.
Carl was pretty good this episode. And rofl that Carol is not a lesbian. grin

Serious question: Do you think she has a set of clippers in her backpack?
And do you think the shine is beginning to come off the Govnah for Andrea?

I still don't think the penny has fully dropped yet with Andrea that the Guvnor is as mad as a bag of snakes...but she's getting there. I think she wants to believe his propaganda but it's bloody hard to find a plausible explanation for a wall of fish tanks full of severed heads and a zombie daughter in the cupboard.

redlac Mon 03-Dec-12 21:27:27

OMFG! Just as well they showed the wee trailer for the next episode so that we see who is still alive.

I freakin LOVE Michonne (and Daryl but that's a given)

Any recs on what to watch in for the next 2 months?

Aspiemum2 Mon 03-Dec-12 22:03:50

Oh wow! How are we supposed to wait now?? Thank heavens it's like this again, 2nd series was hugely disappointing but this series is awesome grin

getagoldtoof Mon 03-Dec-12 22:04:07

I've been having some freaky zombie dreams. Should keep me going.

Oh, and I was rather pleased to see Shane looking hot back for a Rick flashback this week.

getagoldtoof Mon 03-Dec-12 22:06:12

aspiemum -I think I'm the only person who enjoyed series 2 much more than series 1. The Sophia storyline bored my dh senseless, but I loved the build up, suspense and horrifying outcome.

NotAChocolateRaisin Mon 03-Dec-12 22:12:04

Such an awesome episode!!!

Who guessed the Darryl/Merle thing in the arena? You're a genius!

Did anyone watch the next episode trailer cause it gives away who survives really

grin at carol being a lesbian.

Plus we have four more characters to take some fatal blows in the enviable govener war!

anonacfr Mon 03-Dec-12 23:13:20


I just watched the episode and ended up hyperventilating until my sister watched it in a different country and called me for post match analysis.
I was soooooo worried Andrea was going to kill Glenn or Maggie. You just knew that when Philip told her to make sure everyone was tucked up safely in bed she was going to go rogue and try to shoot people.

Why was Michonne so keen to kill the Governor? That scene where he begs for his little girl's life and the katana goes through her eye..... Wow.

The whole episode had me on the edge of my seat. I was literally sitting there clutching my bag of popcorn going 'no, no, no..... no, no, shiiiit, DARRYL!!!!!

I can't WAIT till February.

Carl is officially my hero these days. I had a minute where I almost wished Lori back to life so she could freak out at the thought of him alone in those tunnels.

I like the way the new guy understood that they were safe in that locked room and told his wife/partner/buddy to calm down. Hopefully it will mean the rest of them will realise they can be a good addition to the group.

Glen is awesome. Carol knocking back the pervy inmate was awesome.

Shit to freaky Governor. I like that the last image was scientist guy/ Alicia Florrick's brother looking a bit scared.

I switched off before the preview so am not sure what they are going for but I would be worried if I were in that prison right now...

superoz Tue 04-Dec-12 10:12:00

FANTASTIC episode. I wonder what's going to happen to Daryl and Merle now? The Governor wants revenge for what Michonne did, especially since Merle lied about killing her.
I'm glad Maggie and Glen are ok, I was worried one of them was going to get killed off.
By the looks of the trailer Andrea is still with the Governor. Ok, keeping a zombie daughter might be just about understandable but do you really want to be with someone who keeps tanks of heads?

WickedGirl Wed 05-Dec-12 16:52:17

Why did Andrea not say something at the end to stick up for Daryl? I thought they were friends?

NotAChocolateRaisin Wed 05-Dec-12 17:17:38

Because Andrea is a hideous bitch smile

Aspiemum2 Wed 05-Dec-12 17:20:52

I'm not Andrea's biggest fan but not sure what she could say in the presence of the completely crazy governor and everyone else hyped up and baying for blood

anonacfr Thu 06-Dec-12 18:53:59

Well she could say 'hold on I know him, let's hear him out'. Then Darryl can explain exactly why he showed up and tell her all about tortured Glen and Maggie.

BeginningtoffeealotlikeXmas Fri 07-Dec-12 12:43:03

anon - how could she possibly say that in front of the governor and all those people? She would be thrown to the walkers herself! And, to be fair to her, the scene cut straight after his speech, so, for all we know, she may have a quiet word with the governor in the next episode. Also, her head must be spinning with all that has just happened. She has just discovered her new lover is keeping live zombie heads in tanks and now one of her old group - who she probably thought was dead - has turned up.

I'm not a huge fan of Andrea, but she is probably a more realistic character than Michonne. Michonne is a heroine, a warrior - but, honestly, how many Michonnes would we meet in the zombie apocalypse? I bet most of us would be more like Andrea and heave a huge sigh of relief at finding ourselves in Woodbury with a fanciable man in charge who has taken a shine to us.

Did anyone notice if Glenn and Maggie ever used their walker-bone weapons? (Loved Harlett's reference to this being like saying it with flowers in the post-apocalyptic world grin).

I think Maggie nailed one of Merle's accomplices with the bit if bone. It was just as Rick, Daryl et al. were creeping in to bust them out and Merle et al were preparing to move them. Merle opens the door to the room where they were being held and M & G come out fighting. It happened very quick and the smoke bombs made it difficult to see who was doing what. Later in the episode Merle tells the Guvnor that Rick etc killed one of his men but I'm pretty sure it was Maggie.

BeginningtoffeealotlikeXmas Fri 07-Dec-12 12:51:35

Ah, thanks. There was so much going on at that point, so I must have missed it. Good for her.

Melty Fri 07-Dec-12 15:49:19

Yes, she cut his throat/jugular with it.
Gush of blood, dead.
Good for Maggie.

NotAChocolateRaisin Fri 07-Dec-12 18:55:14

We thought that the bloke Maggie killed was going to come back and make havoc (didn't get him in the brain)

WickedGirl Fri 07-Dec-12 19:34:28

Notachocolateraisin.....didn't she aim up from under the chin into the brain?

I hope that Daryl gets out of there alive, he is lovely

wintera Sat 08-Dec-12 07:57:29

If you go onto YouTube and search for the walking dead season three episode nine then there are two sneak peaks of the next ep. You'll get your answer about Andrea there. There's also a trailer on there for the next half of the season.

Can you link to the trailer for the next half of the season, please? I can't find it on youtube, only on other sites that won't let you watch the video if you're in another country.

wintera Sat 08-Dec-12 09:35:16
wintera Sat 08-Dec-12 09:41:11

Two things jumped out at me in that promo -

Michonne and Glenn appear to be running up to Rick and Maggie shouting 'what the hell is he doing here!!'

And Beth giving Rick a kiss on the cheek!

wintera Sat 08-Dec-12 13:42:26

Anyone else seen the ad on FX saying that as from Jan FX will be Fox instead?

susiedaisy Sat 08-Dec-12 16:21:59

Found this thread just marking my place grin

TwllBach Sat 08-Dec-12 17:04:41

Oh I was lonely on the other thread last night, I didn't realise you were all here grin

I loved the bit when Glenn and maggie were about to be executed and he said "just keep looking at me" and they had even that taken away from them sad

I was sad for daryl when he had that conversation with rick and rick said they couldn't stay to look for his brother. His face was magic, you could see the little boy that used to look up to merle in him, all hopeful and vulnerable. And yet he still chose rick.

Carol was amazing grin "well that's interesting"
"No, it's really not" gringrin

How old is Carl meant to be? He obviously Fancies Beth but I've had him down for about twelve - she wouldn't be interested at all.

Do you remember when Carl was shot and Lori was saying it would be better for him to die before he ha to lose all his childish innocence and become like them? Looks like she was right, but he's certainly following in his fathers footsteps.

I figured Carl for thirteen or fourteen. Wasn't he a bit younger than Sophia?

TwllBach Sat 08-Dec-12 19:02:07

I thought Sophia was about ten - I'm shocking at guessing age through!

wintera Sat 08-Dec-12 19:37:46

Sophia was twelve, Carl is thirteen according to the character profiles on Wikipedia.

TwllBach Sat 08-Dec-12 20:06:33

Maybe it's the hat. It makes him look much you get, like he's playing dress up. I'm going to order the comics for Christmas grin

Aspiemum2 Sat 08-Dec-12 20:30:11

I've bought them for dh - in the form of the 1st two compendiums (3rd one doesn't seem to be out yet). I had a quick flick and not sure they are exactly like the tv series, but have now wrapped them to save myself from reading the whole lot.

Can't wait for him to open them now and let me read them grin

SparklingSnow Sat 08-Dec-12 20:40:34

It's going to be a long wait for the other half of season three to start sad

FivesGoldNorks Sat 08-Dec-12 21:26:01

We ate while watching. Blood and gore doesn't bother me but I found the penny scenes hard.
And beth is forgiven I have repeatedly called her pathetic had no idea she was so young

anonacfr Sat 08-Dec-12 21:37:55

I found the glass in the eye painful to watch. But not as bad as Andrea having sex with the Governor. grin

wintera Sat 08-Dec-12 22:50:00

You probably didn't realise Beth was so young because in real life the actress who plays her is 27.

TwllBach Sat 08-Dec-12 23:50:26

And also, Beth and maggie and Herschel had a relatively nice life up until rick and the rest turned up. They didn't have to toughen up as quickly as the others did, and Beth has still been shielded from a lot of the nastier bits - I suppose because of her age. How old is maggie supposed to be? Early twenties?

I wonder if there is an unconscious desire to keep Beth innocent, so there is something still pure in the group.

FivesGoldNorks Sun 09-Dec-12 08:29:56

Yes, suppose I assumed Maggie was late 20s and beth was mid twenties? Wasn't there another sister who died?
If she's meant to be only 17 then I take back all the comments I've previously made smile and hope that prioner guy dies soon. Shame - I thought they were goi g to become proper members of the group.

FivesGoldNorks Sun 09-Dec-12 08:30:48

I can't actually remember how it ended with Andrea, michonne and governor, can anyone remind me?

FivesGoldNorks Sun 09-Dec-12 08:31:39

And this one really made me feel sorry for the governor. He gave himself up to michonne when she had his daughter sad

anonacfr Sun 09-Dec-12 10:46:38

Yes but he is still a psychopathic serial murdering lying nutter.

It ended with Michonne about to spectacularly decapitate the Governor.

Andrea shows up and pulls a gun on her. Michonne backs down circles round Andrea while holding her katana against the gun and leaves the room. All without a word. Like, you know, 'your psycho boyfriend is holding your buddies hostage and tried to kill me as soon as I left town'.

FivesGoldNorks Sun 09-Dec-12 10:59:36

Ah yes, I do remember that, for some reason I thought there had been something more
Has the governor done anything that Rick wouldn't have done though (barring heads in jars). Ah yes the army people?
I just wonder how much is him trying to protect the town, and being willing to do anything to prevent it being compromised.

anonacfr Sun 09-Dec-12 14:58:47

Well he's capturing zombies and using them in weird fighting 'games', he's clearly killed not just the army people but seemingly others (including Michonne), capturing and torturing Glenn and Maggie, he's setting up bizarre scientific experiments to 'cure' his now twice-deceased zombie daughter...
Not to mention his crazy diary with the Shining-like scrawls...

I don't think he gives a shit about the safety of the people in his town. He just seems like a deranged tyrant to me.

TwllBach Sun 09-Dec-12 15:35:53

I think you can see the difference between Rick and the Governor in the way they treated Michonne. There are definite similarities - they both confiscated her weapon, they both patched her up and wouldn't let her leave, but Michonne was happier with Rick. He allowed her to contribute and didn't overly control her. He has gone out of his way, left his family behind, to go and rescue his people - something I don't see the Governor doing.

It is an interesting comparison though - it makes you wonder how the Governor was elected - if it was almost natural, like Rick, or if he forced the issue.

JennyPiccolo Sun 09-Dec-12 22:00:55

Maggie is supposed to be 22. She says something about it when her and Glenn first get together.

NotAChocolateRaisin Mon 10-Dec-12 22:43:48

He forced the issue. He brutally killed the previous "leaders" of woodbury

Aspiemum2 Sun 16-Dec-12 21:20:39

Is anyone still here?! I'm having withdrawal symptoms here sad

I think I've watched just about every YouTube clip, I've rewatched the 1st 2 seasons. I'm bordering on obsessed.

The crazy thing is I nearly never watch TV so there's nothing to fill the void.

And I would utterly love a carol/daryl love story even though he's too good for her

Anyone else as pathetic committed a fan as me?

anonacfr Sun 16-Dec-12 21:52:50


I know what you mean about Carol about Darryl but I think there's more of a motherly/sisterly vibe between the two of them.

I have to say Carol really rules this season! After her sad moping and endless laundry washing last season it's so cool to see her shooting zombies like a pro, practising her surgical skills on a corpse, mothering a baby and shutting up prison creep with a cool put down.

I haven't looked at any spoilers on YouTube. I want to stay completely surprised for February. I might rewatch the first season though...

TwllBach Sun 16-Dec-12 21:56:35

I just can't believe there is such a long wait <sob>

On the other hand, there is every possibility that I might be made redundant in February, so that will coincide nicely...

I wonder if it will break daryls heart to kill his brother (I haven't considered the possibility of him dying, I refuse to) or maybe rick shoots merle in a rescue attempt? I wonder if daryl could ever forgive him.

Does anyone know how many series are said to be made?

Aspiemum2 Sun 16-Dec-12 22:09:56

Daryl is ricks right hand man, I think that he would be more loyal to the group if push came to shove. I hope Daryl doesn't die sad hard to tell as cant find him in the comics at all. Not that I've had much chance to read them as they're wrapped for dh.
I might have given him the wrong clue for his present - I told him it was really a gift for us both wink oops!

Carols put down was her best line yet.

Andrea frustrates me - she always hooks up with the dickheads, she should have higher standards.

Maggie rocks, at the end of season 2 she was the only female out in the thick of it. The rest of them were running around the house like lame arses!

susiedaisy Sun 16-Dec-12 22:21:02

I'm still here, having withdrawals symptoms as well!hmm

anonacfr Mon 17-Dec-12 19:16:33

Andrea is the biggest idiot of them all. At the beginning of the show she was a human rights lawyer and now she's just a simpering flirting girl. She was even flirting with Merle FFS!

plus I can't believe she chose a guy she doesn't know, who uses Merle (of all people) as his right hand man over Michonne who saved her life and looked after her for eight months. Talk about loyalty.

Darryl isn't in the comics, ironically the most favourite person in the show was made up. Apparently the actor has increasingly added to the character as well.

Aspiemum2 Mon 17-Dec-12 23:32:45

Re watching a bit of series 3

Andrea : what's your real name?
Guv'nor : I never tell

Wtf?? Why not? Arrogant twat!

Blondeshavemorefun Fri 01-Feb-13 17:25:18

just seen last episode before mid season break

was on planner and somehow i had missed it shock

i could beleive andrea was gonna kill her friend after all she did to save/look after her - gov must be a very good shag

yah gov's daughter got killed, tho did think M was silly to unhook her before taking the hood off and relieseing she was a zomblie grin

dont want the 2 bruvs to fight in the ring

Mewsical Fri 01-Feb-13 19:15:55

Anyone want to hazard a guess as to when the other half of season 3 airs?

ipswichwitch Fri 01-Feb-13 19:18:18

16th feb I think. Can anyone confirm?? Need my Darryl Dixon fix grin

I was just about to start a thread to see if anyone knew when it was back.



JKSLtd Mon 04-Feb-13 15:01:15

Checking in smile

Virgil Mon 04-Feb-13 15:04:44

Friday 15th feb!!

Aspiemum2 Thu 07-Feb-13 12:40:42

Does it not air on the 10th?! 9pm, so available on the 11th wink

Can't wait! There's a 2 min preview on YouTube that aired the other night, poor daryl sad

anonacfr Thu 07-Feb-13 19:48:12

I was going to say the 10th too... grin
I'm refusing to watch any spoilers. I. don't. want. to. know.

Virgil Thu 07-Feb-13 20:58:16

Googling says 16th but I need to know since I don't want to kiss it

Virgil Thu 07-Feb-13 20:58:43

Well I do want to kiss it but don't want to miss it grin

Aspiemum2 Mon 11-Feb-13 19:45:44

Anyone seen it yet? We've got it - just waiting for the dc's to go off to bed smile

Tallalime Mon 11-Feb-13 20:55:19

I am watching it now. grin

JKSLtd Wed 13-Feb-13 17:57:01

Despite the warning on this thread, I missed it! blush

When it reshowing? I must Sky+ it tonight.

Blondeshavemorefun Wed 13-Feb-13 23:47:39

Jks - you havnt missed it. Starts fri 15th on fox

But others watch from the place we do not name grin so a few days early

JKSLtd Thu 14-Feb-13 19:44:29

Thank you thank you, have now got it on my Sky+ grin

so excited grin

Shakinstevie Fri 15-Feb-13 22:12:14

Anyone watching? smile

susiedaisy Fri 15-Feb-13 22:29:18

Yep just started watching grin

TwllBach Fri 15-Feb-13 22:50:21

Ahhhhhh I've just started watching as I sky plussed it. I can't believe they let him walk away <chews nails>

susiedaisy Fri 15-Feb-13 22:55:37

Can't believe Glenn doesn't have more injuries as he was beaten really badly

TwllBach Fri 15-Feb-13 23:20:41

I love Glenn - that little exchange between him and rick after he'd stamped on that zombies head was wonderful. He had managed to keep so much humanity up until now though, and I'm a bit sad that he's finally had it beaten out of him sad

I'm also already bored of phantom Lori.

susiedaisy Sat 16-Feb-13 10:01:12

Daryl better come back, that's all I'm saying about that!!!!!!angry

NoHank Sat 16-Feb-13 11:34:23

I missed the first 20 minutes!

I can't believe I have waited months for it to come back and when it does I bloody forget and nearly miss it.

So do we not see what happened to Daryl? Poor Carol was gutted when he didn't return with Rick but I don't know what happened. Anyone want to share...please smile

Shakinstevie Sat 16-Feb-13 18:04:13

daryl met his brother meryl (? spelling) as the governor was making them fight each other then they managed to get away with rick and the gangs help, but rick and the rest of them, especially glenn did not wamt meryl joining them so daryl felt he had to stay with meryl sad

NoHank Sat 16-Feb-13 19:53:41

No, no, no....Daryl has to come back. Bugger. Talk about being stuck between a rock and a hard place. He really cares about the group now and has a lot of respect for Rick, but there was no way he was going to leave his brother sad

I just hope Merle shows his true colours soon. I think Daryl would side with
Rick and the others if he does (hopeful?)

TwllBach Sat 16-Feb-13 20:39:01

I don't think we've seen the last of either of them, surely? But then again, daryl wasn't in the original comic was he?

My guess is, though, that merle will realise they can't survive out there and then try and get back in. It will all kick off and daryl will have to kill him.

NoHank Sat 16-Feb-13 20:56:33

I agree, that was what I was thinking too. The prison is the safest place around. Daryl might think he can convince everyone to let them back in and then Merle will stuff up somehow.

Maybe he'll try something on with carol and really piss Daryl off. Not that I think he thinks of her romantically but he definitely has a connection with her. Or maybe carol will kill him - pretty sure someone will

TwllBach Sat 16-Feb-13 21:02:58

He's just so predatory. And how on earth could maggie and Glenn stay after everything he did to them? I think Glenn would literally explode.

Before everyone died, it might have been ok because there was enough f them to control merle - TDog, Shane (even if he was a cock) Glenn Andrea etc but now there is basically rick and Glenn, and rick is in the throes if insanity.

SilverSky Sat 16-Feb-13 21:45:51

Marking spot! grin

Why is rick so anti other groups? The new group has fit healthy adults in it plus a guy who looks like he could break a walker in half with his bare hands. Mic hone - proved herself time and time again surely.

Aspiemum2 Sat 16-Feb-13 22:20:27

I think he's just being cautious given that half the people they run into seem to want to kill them - look at the last group they met when Herschel went on his bender!
Tyreese has a big part in the comics so I am guessing he will be around for a while yet.

True I suppose. But poor Michonne.
I also thought they were breaking Andrea out of Woodbury, they obv had no idea she was there till later!

SilverSky Sun 17-Feb-13 07:30:17

Also don't forget that aren't seeing what we are seeing wrt the new group.

I thought the Daryl, Merle and Walker fighting in Woodbury was truly rubbish acting. It was ridiculous. Almost cringey.

Lori - sod off there's a love.

Rick - Herschel needs to get him on some anti psychotics or something. Fast.

Poor Glenn. He's such a changed person from the first series.

The new group made me laugh referring to "a woman and a boy on their own, be the perfect time to take charge" little do they realise that neither Carol nor Carl would even hesitate to shoot anyone of them.

It seems as if its going to be less about the Walkers and more about the Guvnor this series.

Will Andrea the bike return to Rick's gang? I reckon. But will she be a double agent?

Merle and Daryl will def return. I agree with everyone else that Merle will die. He is SO bastard irritating its untrue. The guy who plays him is an awesome actor!

And what happened to maggie? I know they made her take her top off, but I didn't think anything worse happened, yet they both seem really shaken?

TwllBach Sun 17-Feb-13 08:09:01

I think for maggie it's the humiliation aspect. Fine, she wasn't raped physically, but she was definitely debased and humiliated. I suppose in physical terms Glenn came off worse, but maybe part of it is tht, by now, everyone's is so used to being physically beaten that it is almost a matter of course? What the governor did to maggie was different.

I'm thinking its worse for Glenn than it is to maggie because he couldn't protect her and that is making him feel bad and guilty and all sorts. I think for maggie, she is humiliated for the reasons above, but also because she has got used to being able to hold her own and they stripped that away from her, reminding her that she is vulnerable. Also, she fell in love with Glenn as the most human f the group. I'm sure I remember her saying that to him - and she has seen him do some pretty rough stuff since they were taken.

TwllBach Sun 17-Feb-13 08:10:33

Oh, and one last thing -

Maybe this is more difficult for them to process because they've been fightin walkers for such a long time that they forgot humans could be bastards too? When you think about it, maggie hasn't really had to see the bad humans like rick has. It must be exhausting, to realise that you have human enemies as well.

Yes, agree, and definitely didn't mean to downplay what happened to her (not downplaying what happened to Glenn as it's obvious to all). But that just seems a bit subtle for a TV show - the way they were there seemed to be "one big secret" iyswim.
You're right, i forget that maggie hasn't been around with the rest of them. Until fairly recently that family were quite secure and protected from the nastiness.

TwllBach Sun 17-Feb-13 08:49:30

I sort of agree with you though, because surely now everyone ha taken it as a given that she was raped? Not that it matters, but Herschel must think that after her reaction?

Maybe maggie doesn't want to talk about it because she doesn't want people to pity her. She was one of the "strong" ones up there jut below rick and daryl, and maybe she is worried that by admitting what happened it would put her back to "needing protecting "

I obviously need to get out more...

susiedaisy Sun 17-Feb-13 10:54:57

Silver. You summed it up nicely there smile,

really hoping this isn't the last series anyone know if there's another in the pipeline ?

[rushes in, late and panting]

ChocolateRaisin here! (Name change) Anyone seen the latest episode? Second one of this year?!

DESPERATE to hear what people think!

nooooooo, and I won't get to see it tonight either as DH wants us to watch 007 angry

Aspiemum2 Fri 22-Feb-13 12:51:23

Yep, watched it Monday - couldn't even wait until evening so watched it when the twins were napping! Thought it was heaps better than last weeks smile

I watched them both in a row because this is the first chance I've had to catch up on my TV essentials (the joys of being bed-bound!) and yeah, the first was a bit nothingy. Second way better but cliff-hangery! Want the next one NOW plizz!

Aspiemum2 Fri 22-Feb-13 16:25:54

Yep, am anxious to see the next one. Have got grey's to watch tonight though so that'll keep me going.
Can't wait to see how Merle affects the group

TwllBach Fri 22-Feb-13 22:30:26

I'm watching it now - just watched the bit between maggie and Glenn at the winning. Why did she push him away? Whyyyy? <sob>

(I sort of get it, I do, but they're my favourite couple sad)

NoHank Fri 22-Feb-13 22:36:40

Have always been team Rick but after that scene on the bridge i think I luff Daryl. Merle, on the other hand, is a prick <gavel>

TwllBach Fri 22-Feb-13 22:38:57

Oh that conversation between daryl and merle was so sad. Daryls brilliant - I love how he was so vulnerable and so strong at the same time and how he's a good man now, and makes the hard decisions.

Rick is winding me up.

TwllBach Fri 22-Feb-13 22:45:50

Hoooooly crap! That made me jump right out of my seat grin

<guess what bit I just watched emoticon>

NoHank Fri 22-Feb-13 22:46:12

I agree. I want to slap him with a wet fish and give him a good seeing too wash grin
You're right about Daryl. He just gets better every week

NoHank Fri 22-Feb-13 22:47:57

Bloody hell! Am a few minutes behind. Just read your comment before it happened!

TwllBach Fri 22-Feb-13 22:52:32

Oh fuck!
This is amazing.

Oh my god did you just see that save????

TwllBach Fri 22-Feb-13 22:53:31

Oh that beautiful, sentiment filled nod. <misty eyed>

NoHank Fri 22-Feb-13 22:54:41

You need nerves of bloody steel to watch this. [Wine] helps

NoHank Fri 22-Feb-13 22:58:52

Yes. The nod. He is so good at that. So much expressed without saying a word. Was that Andrea fighting her way throughthe at the end?

TwllBach Fri 22-Feb-13 23:03:07

I was going to ask the same thing abut Andrea - the one that drove the van?

I keep rewinding the last couple of minutes. I bet merle loved that, didn't he. Perfect opportunity to reintroduce himself. But I don't think daryl will be able to relax, knowing that his brother is an animal and that he's loose in the group.

TwllBach Fri 22-Feb-13 23:07:31

Oh wait, did you mean at the end in the clip for next week? Yeah I think it was.

At least it might convince rick to keep michonne. I think today has prove that try need to bulk the group up a bit. Merle is probably handy for a while.

I'm a bit concerned at the lack of basic parental caring that rick seems to display! Daryl cares for those children more than he is doing at the moment, although I'm sure it's almost like a PTS thing. They've all been through some pretty traumatic stuff, but rick blames himself because he was in charge - everyone dying is his fault. But still.

NoHank Fri 22-Feb-13 23:10:18

Merle won't be able to help himself. He is just naturally a complete nobber and I don't think he will even be able to pretend there is any sort of humanity in him.

I've just seen a trailer for next weeks. It looked like Andrea entering the prison gates. I hope Michonne pokes her in the eye with her big stick grin

TwllBach Fri 22-Feb-13 23:14:50

Andrea is an utter nobbly nobber, but at least she can shoot walkers, run, hunt etc and is relatively healthy.
The only problem would come when the (inevitable) face off with the Governor happens, because she wants to believe he's nice cos she let him do her.

NoHank Fri 22-Feb-13 23:15:39

Lori is a big unnecessary distraction at the minute.

I'm looking forward to Rick finding his grip and getting his shit together. I did wonder where the other group was though. The one they told to go last week. Was it Tyrese? When they left hand thought it was to the next cell block not actually out of the prison. Not read the comics myself but I thought he would be a bigger character

NoHank Fri 22-Feb-13 23:18:08

"Utter nobbly nobber" possible future name change

NoHank Fri 22-Feb-13 23:20:18

Left hand? <throws phone out window>

TwllBach Fri 22-Feb-13 23:28:13

Yy someone up thread said he was big in the comic, but then apparently daryl wasn't in them at all and he's basically te main character of my fantasies now, so maybe they haven't written him in fully?

Chances are though, they'll meet up again. What's not to like about a group of men that can handle themselves - even if half of them fancied their chances against carol and Carl <arf>

Carol is growing on me - she's toughened up but in a totally empowered way since her husband died. It's happened because she's free, not because she's had to like the others.

susiedaisy Fri 22-Feb-13 23:33:37

Fab episode, great fight scene at the end, I really thought we might loose herschel for a moment, lori needs to piss off, loving daryl, I think he will kill Merle in the end!

NoHank Fri 22-Feb-13 23:36:44

Yes carol is great now. But remember what she said in the last episode. Something about how she hoped if her husband came through the door she would be strong enough not to leave with him. I think that's one of the reasons I love this show. Yes there is loads of blood and gore but the people are real, not just a load of zombie fighting heroes.
I hope Merle tries or does something to carol. He'll soon realise how much she has changed and it will give Daryl a chance to shoot him

NoHank Fri 22-Feb-13 23:41:56

That reminds me. Why don't they call them zombies? The show is set in our world where we all know what zombies are iyswim, but I don't think I've ever heard any of them say the word. Ricks group call them walkers and the guv's group call them biters.

Just something I've wondered

TwllBach Sat 23-Feb-13 00:04:53

Maybe because zombies are things from films and computer games, things in RL that are light hearted and maybe a bit comical, a bit fantastical. Maybe in their life, they're just too horrific to be reconciled with the things we watched on the tv with a bag if popcorn.

I don't know if I explained that very well...

susiedaisy Sat 23-Feb-13 08:56:43

That's a good explanation twi

NotHank, I noticed that. I honestly think they don't think of "zombies" in the same way as if smoeone you knew came through and attacked you...you just wouldn't. You'd assumed breakdown, disease. It's a viral thing I think. Zombies seem fantastic. But I was interested to realise sometime after S1 that despite DH and I calling it "Zombies" the z-word was never actually mentioned.

Whew, just watched that episode,a dn just when I thought it was getting dull... can someone explain to me where they all were at the end? Were the zombies in the air lock thing? Or had they managed to kill em all? Had the guvoner etc just driven off when they unleashed the walkers? Because the way they were all standing at the fence, he could have picked them off. As DH said why didn't they just let Michonne go and decapitate them 5 at a time - it's what she does best smile Rick has completely washed his hands of the baby as far as I can tell, and left it to the wimmin. Beth no longer irritates me. In fact there's a severe lack of irritation in this one.

And does anyone else look at merle and think "your breath muct STINK"?
Not sure why

TwllBach Sun 24-Feb-13 00:04:55

I think the governor left because he either assumed his walkers would kill them off or he just didn't care because he feels like he can come back any time and pick them off one by one.

Spoonful Sun 24-Feb-13 08:03:08

I think the Guv'na was sending them a message that he has all the power, and he can come ruin their safe haven whenever he feels like it, kill one, kill half of them, and there isn't anything they can do about it.
He doesn't care about killing them all because he doesn't really believe they are a threat, he just wants them to know he is The Boss, because they pissed him off.

NoHank Sun 24-Feb-13 11:08:29

Mmmm, yes, good points about the zombie thing Twll and SPB. I can kind of understand why now. That thing of zombies being the stuff of make believe therefore even if thats what they look like, they couldn't possible be that so they give them a different name. I can't help thinking though if it looks like a duck and it quacks like a duck.....grin

Re the guv'nor I definitely think he was sending a message, and also a warning. I don't think he would have thought they all would be killed as they are obviously a bunch of tough cookies to have lasted that long.

I'm pretty sure the zombies were in the yard bit between Rick, Daryl and Merle and the rest of them inside the gates. There were definintely some still alive so they are going to have to fight there way back through them.

I'm worrying now about the effect Merle will have on Darly. I can see him ripping the piss out of him everytime he does or says something that Merle considers to be weak (i.e. for anyone elses benefit or the good of the group) Not sure how Darly is going to react to him. On the one hand he is his big brother and he seems to have looked up to him a lot, but on the other hand he may be starting to see him for what he is. I thought it was really telling the way he left him in the woods to go back to the prison and it was Merle that followed him. I just hope he doesn't start changing in order to impress Merle.

And what will Michonne do to him. Last time she saw him he was chasing her through the woods trying to kill her!

And finally (I'll shut up soon, promise) these are the first scenes we have seen Daryl and Merle together aren't they? Even though we have always known they are brothers, Merle was left behind in Atlanta before we met Daryl. Just thought it was really interesting because we know so much about their "dynamic" through what little Daryl has spoken about them but never actually seen them together before. realises I am now massively overthinking this and goes off to get a hobby

Thanks for the explanation around their positions and why the guvoner left.
We're merely and daryl not together in the beginning? Before merge got chained to a pipe on the roof?

Aspiemum2 Sun 24-Feb-13 13:24:06

We didn't see them together as we first saw Merle when he was part of the group out for supplies when Rick rode in nonchalantly on horseback - then the horse got eaten and Rick got trapped in the tank! One of my favourite episodes with Glenn saying something like "comfy in there?"

NoHank Sun 24-Feb-13 13:25:11

Yes they were together with the Shane and Lori group but we didn't see them together at any point.

The first time we saw Daryl was when Rick went with Glenn and co back to the group after leaving Merle on the rooftop. The first time we see them actually together is when they meet up at Woodbury iyswim. Probably not explaining very well!

Anyone else watching the next episode (episode 11) tonight?! Excited to see what happens after the guv'na walker-bombed...

I do believe you NH - but it is strange!

TwllBach Fri 01-Mar-13 22:11:57


<bites fingernails>
<salutes Herschel>

loler Fri 01-Mar-13 22:20:04

I just wanted share - DH met Egg from this life in Zurich airport this week (I say met, I mean stalked). He was on his way back from skiing to start filming series 4 - Yippee!!

TwllBach Fri 01-Mar-13 22:37:16

Please tell me he was wonderful grin

loler Sat 02-Mar-13 20:47:16

DH said he was completely lovely and didn't appear to mind being hassled by a mad man - guess he has lots of practise! He even smiled when told the I call him Egg (he'll always be Egg).

Naff all on TV tonight have the walking dead box set shouting at me.

NoHank Sat 02-Mar-13 21:26:17

Just watching now. I am almost certain in the scene with the matchstick it is the guvs left eye that had the eye patch and then the one where Andrea returns it is his right. If so that's some miraculous recovery he's made!

MunchMunch Sat 02-Mar-13 21:29:26

I noticed the eye patch changing sides as well.

I want more walkers though and thought when one let himself into Woodbury we were in for an invasion but no!

Not liking Rick's visions either.

NoHank Sat 02-Mar-13 21:33:19

TwllBach I said to dh at the start I always feel really nervous before it even starts.

The trailer for next week looks good. I read somewhere that the director said he separates the characters from the rest of the group sometimes to develop their story so looking forward to seeing a bit more of Michonne.

And I have to say that as much as Andreapee's me off, she would be pretty handy in a fight

NoHank Sat 02-Mar-13 21:35:11

No, Rick needs to get his act together. Another reason I'm looking forward to next week is seeing him out there again with a plan and kicking some ass

Yes, we noticed the eye patch side changing, though I was a bit confused as he;d been looking in a mirror
That Michonne needs to sort her attitude out, she'll never bag a husband talking the way she did to merle grin

NoHank Sat 02-Mar-13 22:13:38

She might bag a wife though!

Lol I think she's great. I wish she'd been around when carol and lori were ironing tea towels

Was anyone else expecting Andreas shirt button to ping off at any minute?

Wickedgirl Sun 03-Mar-13 06:52:58

Andrea doesn't dress very well does she? She is up there on my top 2 to go next. (The other being the govnor)

susiedaisy Sun 03-Mar-13 09:11:31

Yep that silly shirt with one button done up in the middle, Andrea really irritated me this week with all her strutting around Woodbury! She is replacing Lori in the irritating female stakes!!

limitedperiodonly Mon 04-Mar-13 08:14:33

The eye! The eye!

You're right. I think it was the Governor's right eye Michonne took out and it was the left eye that he was looking at in the mirror, wasn't it?

Why would the Governor be interested in learning the layout of the prison?

susiedaisy Fri 08-Mar-13 23:16:39

The mat said welcome!! grin

Ohh i did like this one on another walking dead forum they reckon it was a tad boring but I liked it... poor Morgan though.

susiedaisy Sat 09-Mar-13 00:14:05

I loved this episode thought the hitch hiker at the end was sad and really showed how they have harden up!

Yes backpack man showed how hard rick has got, not so long ago he was de-spiking the guy who tried to kill them and patching him up! Now he won't help a harmless looking man.
I was wondering when Morgan (who I thought was called Michael) would be back. Very well portrayed, a man who has tipped over the edge. Very sad. I doubt this is the last we've seen of him, I bet he'll show up and save the day very soon.
Yes we laughed a lot at "the mat said welcome". Wish they'd give her a bigger part, she's easily the best character.

TwllBach Sat 09-Mar-13 12:03:03

I loved that episode! I'm really warming to Carl now and it looks like rick might be back on track grin

I think michone came across well too.

susiedaisy Sat 09-Mar-13 13:19:52

Actually this was the first episode that Carl didn't annoy me!

NoHank Sun 10-Mar-13 15:09:53

I only got to watch last night and I also enjoyed it very much. To be honest I'm not that fussed about the Woodbury characters and wouldn't care if they never featured again although I know it's building up to a big showdown with them.

There was one particular scene with Rick and Morgan - I can't really remember what was said - but to me it was as if Rick paused for a moment and realised that he could quite easily end up the same as Morgan if he carried on the way he was going. For me I think it was part of the reason for the episode, to give Rick an idea of what he could become, a bit of a wake up call really. And I loved the final little exchange between Rick and Michonne, first Carl saying she is one of us and then the "I see dead people too" bit.

Next weeks looks good. And was that Beth I saw with a gun in her hand???!!!

TwllBach Sun 10-Mar-13 15:14:30

It was a really well written episode I thought. I feel like I should watch it again really!

Blondeshavemorefun Mon 11-Mar-13 00:08:37

Finally watched and tbh I thought was quite a boring episode sad

How did m get the picture so easily?

Poor hitchhiker sad

tho happy to claim His belongings sad

The mat said welcome - that was funny

TwllBach Mon 11-Mar-13 06:55:02

I think she got it so easily because the walkers were so intent on getting to Carl through the door, a bit like the rats in the cages?

It's episodes like these that made DP stop watching - he wants zombiezombiezombie while I love watching the human bits IYSWIM? I enjoy seeing how the characters involve - so I liked that this time they led the hitchhiker but took his stuff. I liked the dialogue between Morgan and rick about the good and the brave dying and the weak inheriting the earth.

It seems to me that this season it's more about what devastation will do to human nature. The zombies are almost normal now - the most horrific violence and cruelty have all been instigated by humans this season.

susiedaisy Fri 15-Mar-13 22:20:46

Anyone watching tonight ??

Just abt to start


susiedaisy Fri 15-Mar-13 22:24:18

Hi theresmile

So lots of crossbow
Am three sec in

susiedaisy Fri 15-Mar-13 22:34:28

Lots of talking so far

Why didn't rick just shoot

More importantly Herschel doesn't seem like a pony tail kind of guy so why hasn't he asked someone to snip it off for him?

Don't call her sweetheart you crumbling old fool
Why is Glenn in charge when mic hones abour

susiedaisy Fri 15-Mar-13 22:42:24

Naughty Glenn and maggie neglecting their duties!!winkgrin

,thin I'm ten mins behind

Gov has just called for surrender rick shoot him you idiot

susiedaisy Fri 15-Mar-13 22:44:21

Ok I won't give anything awaysmile

NoHank Fri 15-Mar-13 22:47:03

I'm watching, on delay so a bit behind.

Andrea's still annoying the crap out of me.

Loved Hershal's line about not showing him his stump, he's not even bought him a drink!

Lol at Herschel

But they want that guy, isn't he a doctor

Just me or does there seem to be a second of post advert programme before ads?

susiedaisy Fri 15-Mar-13 22:56:14

The governor is beginning to piss me off,

cornypony Fri 15-Mar-13 22:56:15

Thought it was a bit slow tonight

susiedaisy Fri 15-Mar-13 22:56:40

Yes adverts are badly placed this week

Yay beth
Shame that wasn't a bit more angled

NoHank Fri 15-Mar-13 23:00:20

Yes you're right. You see the very start of the next scene just before the ads start.

Is it Milton? Yes, I think he is some kind of doctor.

It's a bit slow tonight but I think Andrea is start to see the light. Am I right in thinking there is only a couple left? Anyone know how long till the next series?

Tbh I'd let him have her. She'd have his head on a spike before he could make some smarmy comment. She can look after herself

mumnosbest Fri 15-Mar-13 23:05:44

bit dull tonight i thought.

Canoodling in front of the Z O M B I E S

And why was she laughing as he undressed

susiedaisy Fri 15-Mar-13 23:10:00

Bit dull I agree but it was good how the 'heavies' on either side talked whilst they waited for rick and the governor and they realised that they had more in common than they thought

TwllBach Fri 15-Mar-13 23:10:22

I heart glen and maggie grin

Does glen get to be in charge because he's part of the original group and michone isn't?

I love that rick instinctively knows that the governor would just kill them all anyway and I love that, even after last weeks episode that showed how much harder he is, he still doesn't want to give michone up. Although I'm sure if he thought the governor would stick to his word, things would be different.

TwllBach Fri 15-Mar-13 23:14:10

I don't think the governor would 'just' kill her, though. I think he would go for a full on floor show, staying well out of reach until the very last second.

I'm also wondering if the fact that both sides had a chat outside might be the start of an uprising for the governor? Maybe the season finale is him capturing all of them and ordering that dude to kill daryl and there's a shot of an eye to eye look between daryl and tht bloke, who will then turn and try and shoot the governor, because he and daryl are now best buds <too much time on hands>

Also, I would like to think maggie get the actual kill. She deserves it.

NoHank Fri 15-Mar-13 23:16:41

It was a bit slow but loving Rick a little bit more. He's seen right through the governor, I think that's why he didn't hand her over, he knows she can take care of herself but the governor doesn't play fair.

It looks like Andrea might finally step up and do something to redeem herself. But probably not

I do not understand why rick didn't kill him. Suppose he doesn't know who is in his crew, and that the biggest threat is a scientist in a lumberjack shirt

Much macho posturing when they both drive off on their cars and daryl drives off on his penis extension

What's the music when guvoner and Milton are talking about slaughter. I really like it

NoHank Fri 15-Mar-13 23:24:37

Ha, the penis extension, love it!

TwllBach, you took me right there. Only Daryl would give a tiny nod, he is king of the nods.

And Rick would tilt his head..,

Warm shadow... Lobe it

susiedaisy Fri 15-Mar-13 23:25:16

Penis extension gringrin

Well that's dhs Father's Day pressie sorted

CheerfulYank Sat 16-Mar-13 05:17:55

I'm way behind but marking my place because I like spoilers...I can't handle unexpected deaths. blush

I would die a happy woman if I could ^just once climb Daryl Dixon like a tree.

TwllBach Sat 16-Mar-13 06:26:01

Yeeeeeees, the nod! Except this time, daryl would nod in a "don't feel bad, you're just doing what you need to do to survive in this crazy ol' world, I don't hold it against you, just try and rescue the baby if you can" sort of way.

Rick woul either tilt his head because he can see that the man will betray the governor and is excited, or he will jut his chin out defiantly and meet death with one last fuck you. Incidentally, Carl does the same chin jut.

limitedperiodonly Sat 16-Mar-13 12:08:32

Maybe the doctor, is he a doctor? - the one who wanted to see Herschel's stump - will do for the Governor, but sacrifice himself in the process.

I think he's medically trained but scientist rather than clinician
Hasn't Governor got him on board to try to fnd a cure (well he was but not now presumably)
So yuo think Rick will die?

limitedperiodonly Sat 16-Mar-13 12:13:32

Surely not Rick to die?

I like the fact that The Governor was just a lowly sap in the past world and has risen in the new world order. Very Stephen King The Stand-ish.

Oh no I've started a rumour! It was actually you - I misread your previous post and thought you said "do it for the Governor", which I interpreted as kill Rick. But you actually meant kill Governor. Which I have come to realise on this thread is a word I cannot spell

limitedperiodonly Sat 16-Mar-13 12:36:29

Best way for rumours to start IMO.

Toasttoppers Sat 16-Mar-13 13:26:07

It is obvious they were going for a build up but I found it dire and my least favourite episode ever.

susiedaisy Sat 16-Mar-13 17:49:19

There seemed to be alot of posturing. But not much talking with rick and the governor I think it could of been more dynamic!

notimefors Sat 16-Mar-13 21:15:48

I quite liked the episode! I wonder if the scientist and Andrea will stage a coup?

Blondeshavemorefun Sun 17-Mar-13 19:46:31

Nothing quite like foreplay of zombies watching you while you shag on the floor of a shed !!

Nice the possies outside got talking and rofl at not buying a drink

Again I did think a tad boring

Are the writers losing ideas sad

susiedaisy Mon 18-Mar-13 16:16:28

I think they could include more about sourcing food and dealing infections/hygiene/finding warm clothes etc that all seems to have been forgotten a bit.

Blondeshavemorefun Mon 18-Mar-13 16:54:23

true, they never seem to run out of petrol or food or bullets (tho last week they did get more)

but judging wifey got preg and now has given birth and bubs is a few weeks old??

then means they have been on the run for roughly a year

clothes never look that dirty, yet no one washes

limitedperiodonly Mon 18-Mar-13 18:04:34

I'm obsessed with small but important things.

I wouldn't have sex willingly because I wouldn't want to be pregnant/have a helpless baby and be vulnerable.

Where do they get the petrol from? There'd be plenty lying around but you'd have to siphon it out of abandoned cars or get it out of petrol stations - no idea how you'd do that if the electricity has gone down.

I also can't work out why there are dead bodies in cars. If they got killed in crashes or starved to death in traffic jams (why wouldn't you get out and walk in starved desperation?) wouldn't they have turned into zombies/walkers/biters?

And where do you sleep if you're in the open?

I'm guessing they're in a routine now of getting petrol from abandoned cars and they do the hose sucky thing.

CheerfulYank Mon 18-Mar-13 22:17:01

I think I'd have sex a lot blush because I'm an emotional shagger.

I wondered the same thing about the bodies in the cars...surely they can't all be shot/bludgeoned in the head?

CheerfulYank Mon 18-Mar-13 22:18:11

I think Glenn will die. sad I'm desperate for him not to, but I feel like he will.

Don't they all 'turn' at different rates? So in theory some could be too decomposed before they turn? That said, everyone we've seen die in the series has become one immediately pretty much.

Blondeshavemorefun Mon 18-Mar-13 22:48:11

Maybe zombies can't open car doors

Be nice if we saw them trying to suck a hose to get petrol

superoz Mon 18-Mar-13 22:54:59

Anyone seen the latest episode? Need to discuss! The last two episodes were slow but this one was FULL of tension.

You perv! grin

susiedaisy Mon 18-Mar-13 23:00:36

Super, stop teasing us most of us won't see it until Friday wink

superoz Mon 18-Mar-13 23:28:31

dh has his ahem, special channel. I won't post any spoilers - just got very excited after seeing it! Will wander off and come back on Friday (zips mouth shut).

CheerfulYank Tue 19-Mar-13 03:11:29

Tension between whom?! Pm me!!!

Can the walkers swim? I'd assume they can't, but I guess they don't have to breathe. If they can't...get to an island, you fools! grin

CheerfulYank Tue 19-Mar-13 03:14:30

Blondes I swear I've seen one of them in the act of siphoning gas before...think it was T-Dog?

Blondeshavemorefun Tue 19-Mar-13 03:47:49

Did he spit or swallow grin

CheerfulYank Tue 19-Mar-13 03:53:38

grin I think it cut away before that part.

Blondeshavemorefun Tue 19-Mar-13 03:59:54

Ha ha.

Seems I have a pervy side at 4am

Other thing / from what I rem. didnt they turn up at the prison almost in surprise

Wouldn't they all have known a massive prison was near them?

As in why didnt they go there weeks if not months ago

Plus when they first arrived in there and met the inmates - how come they haft starved to death?

Obv not eating zombies grin

CheerfulYank Tue 19-Mar-13 04:05:40

The inmates were locked in the cafeteria and had plenty of food. smile

Blondeshavemorefun Tue 19-Mar-13 04:11:12

Even after 9mths or so - going by pregnancy

How much food do prisons store lol

I really mustn't try and over anyalise things at 4am

Blondes puts her butt to bed

CheerfulYank Tue 19-Mar-13 05:20:03

Guessing from the size of the prison it probably was made to house hundreds, so five could live easily for 10 months (that's how long they said they were there) on the bulk food. Nothing fresh, but there were still lots of cans and bags and stuff.

When they showed Rick, Daryl, and T-Dog the pantry there was a lot left. I just watched that episode yesterday! smile

limitedperiodonly Tue 19-Mar-13 08:20:52

Zombies would float because they'd be all gassy. Michonne could lash several of them together and use them as a raft.

susiedaisy Fri 22-Mar-13 22:12:38

Anyone watching tonight?

TwllBach Fri 22-Mar-13 22:48:53

I am! I'm on sky plus though so I'm a little bit behind. I think I'm just gettig to the really tense part <watche through fingers>

The governor is one nasty fucker.

TwllBach Fri 22-Mar-13 22:50:18

And is it wrong that I really like Andreas coat? And Tyreses partners whole outfit.

And what's up with that tune?

<too nervous to watch without distraction>

susiedaisy Fri 22-Mar-13 22:50:42

God it's tense tonight I'm on the edge of my seat!!

susiedaisy Fri 22-Mar-13 22:51:41

Shit me this is making me jumpconfused

TwllBach Fri 22-Mar-13 22:53:00

Oh I really don't like it <wibble>

susiedaisy Fri 22-Mar-13 22:53:40

It gets worse twi

TwllBach Fri 22-Mar-13 22:54:00

Ha I actually did just put my hand over my eyes.

susiedaisy Fri 22-Mar-13 22:54:35

The governor is evil

susiedaisy Fri 22-Mar-13 22:57:11

God my stomach was in knots that was good smile

TwllBach Fri 22-Mar-13 22:57:54

Right at the beginning, where we saw him laying out the instruments, was there a speculum there?

TwllBach Fri 22-Mar-13 22:59:08

Oh holy shit! Just as I thought she was going to be ok...

susiedaisy Fri 22-Mar-13 23:00:54

Not sure about the speculum hmm

susiedaisy Fri 22-Mar-13 23:01:52

Given myself a headache nowsmile

TwllBach Fri 22-Mar-13 23:05:53

Oh I can't wait for next weeks!

susiedaisy Fri 22-Mar-13 23:06:45

Actually feel sorry for Andrea

susiedaisy Fri 22-Mar-13 23:10:10

Off to bed now will pop back to thread tomorrow.

She has redee,ed herself
I was actually having a physical reaction to the suspense

TwllBach Sat 23-Mar-13 00:21:40

Me too!

The silence, the car, the running, the nearly being there, the fact that rick caught sight and then brushed it off as a hallucination... Jut amazing.

And that awful tune. What is it? Is it something he used to play penny?

And it's blatantly obvious who set the walkers on fire.

And also, I thought michones pet walkers were supposed to be her boyfriend and someone else? She seemed like she hated them in the flashback st the beginning.

limitedperiodonly Sat 23-Mar-13 08:46:41

How good was that? grin Please don't let it go downhill from here.

I think it was a speculum. I thought Michonne's pet walkers were her brothers.

Why does that bloke keep mouthing off?

Oh do you thik rick thought it was a hallucination? I bet you're right. I assumed he just realised there was nothing he could do with the sight he had.
I really think they should have let him have michonne, OK maybe not really but I do think she's the toughest of the lot and she'd have the guvorner eating that scalpel before long.
How did he escape all those walkers? He was completely overrun! Did she just set them on him and then use the time they were busy chasing him to make her escape?

" I assumed he just realised there was nothing he could do with the sight he had."
and I thought that while he'd have helped Andrea if he could have shot a walker from a distance, that he wasn't willing to leap down and get his hands dirty for her. They're that distant now. Of course I could be completely wrong

Were the black couple (or brother and sister or maybe even just friends?) that let Andrea out also part of the group who Carl was keeping locked in the prison? I don't remember them getting to the town, did we see that? Wonder what happened to the rest of their group.

limitedperiodonly Sat 23-Mar-13 09:02:56

I couldn't work out how Andrea escaped the walkers. To me, it looked like she opened the door and shut herself in with them. I thought she was trying to kill herself at first.

Like a sad person I ran it back a couple of times but I still couldn't see.

limitedperiodonly Sat 23-Mar-13 09:04:14

Yes. They wanted to stay but Rick expelled them after he'd come back from hallucinating about Lori.

Yes, it all hinged (pun intended) on whether the door opened towards her or awat from her. If towards her, I was saying "open it and hide behind it!" thinking that the walkers would stream through. But when she actually did do it, it looked as though the door opened into the zombies...whether she just took her chances and was lucky I don't know.

limitedperiodonly Sat 23-Mar-13 09:05:47

Yes, there were others with them at the prison who've gone.

TwllBach Sat 23-Mar-13 09:06:06

Oh it didn't cross my mind to think that rick would not have helped Andrea! I'm not sure what to think now <frets>

Didn't Andrea and Milton find the other four when they were out in the woods and Andrea sent Milton back with them? I'm sure that's what happened.

Apparently, in the comics, Tyrese is a huge character, but I can't remember where I read that - on one of the threads here maybe?

limitedperiodonly Sat 23-Mar-13 09:08:47

I'd have gone for hiding behind the door. Actually, I'd have stayed in Woodbury. I know the Governor is mad but I'd overlook it. I'd be too scared of being eaten alive.

really don't know how the guv escaped though. He's not even got a lot of experience killing walkers, he's been fairly sheletered from them and have people to do the dirty work

susiedaisy Sat 23-Mar-13 09:09:41

I think Andrea opened the door wide but hid behind it leaving it wide open but she was behind it, the governor seems to have adjusted to only having one eye pretty quickly, if it was me my balance, driving etc would be all over the place for a while!

oh me too lpo. Yes he's a psycho but he was doing a fairly good job of running the town and he was a fairly benign dictator (unless you disapprove of his heads in jars).
I suppose in reality that's the position the scientist guy is in (why do I struggle so much to remember his name?). he doesn't approve but he knows which side his bread is buttered. Also he seems to feel loyalty to the guvorner. What was he pre zombie world?

susiedaisy Sat 23-Mar-13 09:11:17

I think Milton will save Andrea, I'm really hoping next weeks episode isn't all about torturing Andrea!

TwllBach Sat 23-Mar-13 09:12:31

I think for someone like Andrea who was out with the walkers for quite a while, first with rick and then more so with michone, the danger represented by a few walkers sort of becomes mundane. Unless its a massive swarm, she knows she can deal with them and really, they're relatively easy aren't they? They don't run, they don't try and trick you. As log as you don't panic you can dispatch a fair few without breaking a sweat.

It's the human enemies that are dangerous because they try and outsmart you.

I thought that Susie. I have a friend who has no distance vision in one eye but she's always been that way. To adjust so quickly as an adult when you can presumably already drive etc.
That said, it's not like he'd be driving in rush hour and I doubt he was worried about hitting people!

limitedperiodonly Sat 23-Mar-13 09:13:25

They did find them in the woods. I forgot that. That was when Andrea was making a pet grin

They're very fragile, the walkers. You can snap off their arms and their jaws. I suppose it's because they're rotting. You'd think the smell would make it more difficult for them to creep up behind people all the time.

I agree Twll, the danger now for those who are used to sticking something through a zombie head is just if they are overrun with sheer numbers.

I wondered...have all the original walkers decomposed now? So are the new ones people who originally survived but have since died? Which presumably is how the thing will run its course. We seem to see less of swarms and swarms of them, that could just be a story line thing of course!

limitedperiodonly Sat 23-Mar-13 09:28:37

I think that about the eye. I've got a lazy eye and I'm used to it but it would be difficult to adjust to.

If Michonne stabbed me in the eye it would be just my luck that she would get my good one.

susiedaisy Sat 23-Mar-13 18:42:05

Apparently there's only 2 More episodesconfused

Susie in this series or at all??
Anyone else really looking forward to Revolution?

susiedaisy Sat 23-Mar-13 19:42:23

In this series, thank goodness

what's revolution?

Toasttoppers Sat 23-Mar-13 19:54:20

I actually think places like Woodbury would exist post apocalypse. The heads in jars was weird but seriously nothing is normal now is it. I was upset the guy in the town who was in episode one didn't go back with them.

NoHank Sat 23-Mar-13 21:11:40

Phew, just watched on catch up. I find it difficultier so I can forward it when it gets too tense grin

I don't think Rick
realised it was Andrea, just that he thought he saw something but when he looked again and there was nothing there he dismissed it.

I hate a dissatisfied ending though. Getting almost to the gates just for the cat with nine lives to catch up with her. I agree though, she does seem to be redeeming herself.

Milton or Tyrese to save her I think. They s

NoHank Sat 23-Mar-13 21:15:09

Sometimes I hate this phone

What I was trying to say was they seem to be showing Tyrese as having a strong moral compass, sorry, don't know how else to say it. That's why I think he will be involved in either saving Andrea or Rick and the gang.

I've read online somewhere there is definitely a season 4 but no idea when it is due to be shown

Milton, that's his name. Of course. I agree, think hell catch the guv doing nasty things and have his image shattered - he likes to see him as a basically good man making tough decisions. If he sees cruelty I think he will snap out of it and kill him

NoHank Sat 23-Mar-13 21:36:38

Well Milton showed Andrea the torture room so he obviously knows it's there so it would make sense for him to find it. I think he will get killed though. Don't knowwhy, just do. And that Tyrese will have a role to play still.

I was confused by the flash back at the beginning though. I mean why they showed it. Unless it was show why Andrea felt loyal to michone?

And yes I'm pretty sure read on here one of her pet walkers was her boyfriend but it didn't sound that0 way on this episode

Hmm yes had forgotten that. Can't think why it would be relevant

NoHank Sat 23-Mar-13 21:47:38

Don't know either. Only thing I can think is that they were showing how they had bonded and that's why Andrea decided to leave as soon as the governor asked for her to be handed over. But then they havealready shown Andrea to be pretty fickle when it comes to relationships so not sure if that reason sits right with me.

Maybe it will feature in a future episode. Or maybe not

TwllBach Sun 24-Mar-13 08:48:51

Maybe it was trying to show tht michone had gone into the end of the world having already suffered? She said that they had been animals before they turned - perhaps the reason she feels so comfortable in the new world is because the old world was awful for her?

If you think about, the only other person who actually had a shitty life (that I can think of) before it all started was daryl (I'm not counting merle because it seems as though he was a shit before) and he is sort of in the same league as michone. Everyone else seems to have led a nice life up until that point.

I'm rambling... I want it to make sense because so far, to me, it's been really well written!

limitedperiodonly Sun 24-Mar-13 08:56:03

No, it makes sense to me. I hadn't thought about that.

JKSLtd Mon 25-Mar-13 21:03:44

I'm just catching up now, Andrea's has jumped the wall and is in the woods. Eek!

JKSLtd Mon 25-Mar-13 21:04:57

And breathe!


and, going back to clothes - they really get covered in gore most weeks, so their clothes should be gross. Then again they can just unpack a suitcase from any car they come across I suppose.

JKSLtd Mon 25-Mar-13 21:21:14

Why didn't Andrea just take his car? Silly bint.
Poor thing though really, so close sad

susiedaisy Mon 25-Mar-13 21:25:05

I thought that but I bet the governor took the keys!

JKSLtd Mon 25-Mar-13 21:28:06

Oh could be. Think she was being all 'i'm cool, beat the Governor, I'll walk off into the night' though. And generally I don't think they bother taking the keys out anymore do they?

Phew, finally caught up.

Sure we had the island discussion way back didn't we? Some of the zombie books say they could make it onto an island, some say no. I think it would be worth a try, a boundary at least. Though the prison was probably better - when it was actually safe. Are they going to ever try and regain the 'field' area?

NoHank Tue 26-Mar-13 12:16:59

I thought that too about the car but yes he probably took the keys. I know I would!

I always thought the best bet for safety would be something like a giant cruise ship. The zombies could possibly float somehow to an island but they'd be hard pushed to climb aboard a ship if it was anchored just off shore. You'd have to clear it first of any zombies then you'd be left with your own floating community. Well stocked kitchen, bedrooms etc. You'd just have to keep stocking up every now again by nipping ashore. And if you've managed to bag one with a captain then bonus, set sail for the Bahamas too!

JKSLtd Tue 26-Mar-13 12:45:54

Oh yes fab idea, cruise ship! With fuel of some sort so you can definitely go somewhere warm!

Yes (focuses on the important issues) that shirt she wore with the about-to-ping button looked ironed. I look more mauled by a zombie than she does, on any given day.

Blondeshavemorefun Wed 27-Mar-13 16:43:27


whoops hit caps in my excitement

not sure how andrea escaped zomblies, looks like she opened another door/went into another room - unless literally hid behind the door

kept rewinding, cant work it out

how the hell did the guv escape, esp after his bullets went

how did he manage to creep up on andrea

i think rick thought he saw something out of the corner of his eye, but then dismissed it

not sure how gov managed to get andrea back to 'home' without anyone seeing her, or her screaming help by the prison

if zomblies are dead, then why do they bleed, surely they wouldnt have any fresh blood in them

and yes they all look too clean smile

CheerfulYank Thu 28-Mar-13 05:46:46

How far are y'all? I've just watched episode 15, have you seen it yet? I don't have TV so I had to order it, but I don't know when they play in the UK.

CheerfulYank Thu 28-Mar-13 06:33:43

And I'm totally hormonal, plus had a terrible day, so that might have something to do with it, but....oh Lordy, I cried. sad

CheerfulYank Thu 28-Mar-13 06:35:32

I think the governor probably knocked Andrea out in the woods, then bound and gagged her and brought her back to Woodbury.

TwllBach Thu 28-Mar-13 09:20:04

I accidentally caught sight of some words on the screen on the other walking dead thread and I think they've seen the next episode already.

I have a horrible feeling something horrendous has happened <sob>

I can't wait for Friday! And there's that new programme, Revolution, as well that I've set to record.

I am VERY excited about Revolution!

TwllBach Thu 28-Mar-13 09:41:18

Did you see the bloke on the horse?? It made me smirk and think of rick.

susiedaisy Thu 28-Mar-13 13:02:38

When's revolution starting?

Tomorrow! but tbh if you didn't know that then you're not worthy to watch it wink I hope it lives up to its promises, will be very disappointed if it ends up as another Lost.

susiedaisy Thu 28-Mar-13 13:11:54

grin Thanks

susiedaisy Thu 28-Mar-13 23:10:16

Revolution all set to record wink

Blondeshavemorefun Fri 29-Mar-13 21:52:59

Almost time smile

Last one next week sad

susiedaisy Fri 29-Mar-13 22:53:11

Just started watching, can't believe there's only 2 lefthmm

NoHank Fri 29-Mar-13 22:58:53


Blondeshavemorefun Fri 29-Mar-13 23:42:36

The ending was so sad

I felt for merle sad

Tho didn't understand why he Let michemone go?

susiedaisy Sat 30-Mar-13 00:18:43

Wow Merle got his comeuppance in the end!

CheerfulYank Sat 30-Mar-13 02:31:35

I bawled for Daryl. (Pregnancy hormones and all)

TwllBach Sat 30-Mar-13 08:27:31

<shields eyes>

Right I've managed to avoid reading the thread and I've just put it on. I'm so excited for it grin but I have seen a few little words here and there about people feeling sorry for daryl so I've got my tissues ready grin

TwllBach Sat 30-Mar-13 08:30:39

Whaaaaaat? I'm confused - I thought they were going to fight??

TwllBach Sat 30-Mar-13 08:35:39

Loved that conversation between merle and carol

"You're a late bloomer."
<knowing look> "maybe you are too."

susiedaisy Sat 30-Mar-13 08:41:56

Keep watching twi all will be revealed wink

TwllBach Sat 30-Mar-13 09:08:29

shock he's got merle <bites fingernails>

Either on this thread or the other one someone asks if merle is suicidal. I think he is.

limitedperiodonly Sat 30-Mar-13 09:08:42

Poor Daryl, sobbing his heart out. His eyes are going to get even more puffy.

And to think I thought Prince William giving Kate his dead mum's engagement ring was macabre... grin

TwllBach Sat 30-Mar-13 09:19:09

I'm not too sure what I think about ricks little speech there. It's seems an awful lot like he's opting out. He made the wrong decision and now he's laying the next big decision all on the group when he has spent quite a while making them for them.

I'm not sure if I don't think he went to merle knowing exactly that would happen therefore ensuring he's not the bad guy.

And that was a lovely piece of acting from daryl - the little sort of child like flinch with his shoulder. I luffs him grin

limitedperiodonly Sat 30-Mar-13 09:56:04

Rick's been like that all the way through. He wants to be in charge because he's one of those people who think if they're in charge nothing will go wrong, but then he resents the others for relying on him.

He wasn't quite like that in this speech. It was more a plea for someone else to share the burden. Of course, he'd hate for that to happen and would sulk until everyone said: 'Oh, if it means that much we'll do it your way again.'

DH is like this. It's just about bearable, but if we were living in a post-apocalyptic world, I'd join the zombies. They're untidy and chaotic but their life is simple and no one bosses them about.

susiedaisy Sat 30-Mar-13 09:56:30

Not sure I'd want an engagement ring off of a walker, unless it was symbolic gesture from Glenn and maggie won't actually wear it!

OhMyGlob Sat 30-Mar-13 11:21:36

But now no one will know that Merle tried to do the right thing in the end. They will all think he was trying to join the govener again sad

NoHank Sat 30-Mar-13 11:34:58

I think they will know. Michonne will tell them that he let her go and I think they all know that there would be no chance of the governor taking him back. I think that's why he did it. He knew after what he had done to Maggie and Glen that no matter what he did they would never accept him and also that Darly belonged with them now. So I think he was trying to redeem himself a little by trying to take the governor out for them.

Daryl just gets better and better. Loved how at the beginning he told Rick he didn't agree with his plan for Michonne. And the final scene at the end when he found Merle was just heartbreaking.

And aww and a bit eeww for Glenn and Maggie smile (That's my Easter inspired wedding hat)

limitedperiodonly Sat 30-Mar-13 11:42:40

I had trouble with Merle's accent. I had to use subtitles. Was he telling Michonne that it was the Governor who rescued him from the roof?

I think Glenn would always think badly of him but the others might wonder because he let Michonne go and gave her the sword after that soul-searching conversation. Carol would probably speak up for him too. Daryl might have seen the bullet wound and got a clue from that.

It's sad but more realistic that you'd never know. And Merle didn't fit in anywhere any more.

limitedperiodonly Sat 30-Mar-13 11:45:44


Was it all a bit Easter-like, with lots of references to sacrifice for the good of others? Or am I over-thinking? grin

NoHank Sat 30-Mar-13 11:54:13

Merle escaped himself from the roof by cutting his own hand off and then at some point after that (not sure how long after) he met up with the governor who I'm guessing offered him security and a home in exchange for his services. He told Michonne he had killed 16 men since the walkers appeared. All of these after he met the governor - I think the point being he carried out his dirty work in payment for the governor taking him in.

I agree, Merle didn't fit anywhere, so he chose to try and help his brother the best way he could in the end. Merle would know no matter what, the governor was going to come after them so he tried to take as many out as possible first.

No, no particular Easter references I can think off, it's just they don't have a hat emoticon and the bunny ears were the closest looking thing!!!

TwllBach Sat 30-Mar-13 13:25:50

he tried to take as many out as possible first.

Oooh, yes, I thought that. He could have gone straight to Woodbury and tried to get the Governor but he went to the place where he thought all those men would be. He tried to take out the men that were the fighters IIRC?

Didn't he and Daryl have a conversation about Merle leaving Daryl with his shitty dad/step dad? Merles last act was to try and save his brother sad