Great British Bake-off: The Final

(513 Posts)
StrangerintheNight Wed 10-Oct-12 14:47:08

Just typed out a very excitable post only to find the previous thread, on which I was an avid lurker, had exceeded it's capacity. So if you don't mind, I'll start the overflow thread in the lead up to the Grand Final.

ppeatfruit Wed 10-Oct-12 14:48:29

Bxxxer i'd just done the same grin!

StrangerintheNight Wed 10-Oct-12 14:50:26

My post was in response to Squoosh and Rosa who were wondering where it was filmed.
I also thought house looked familiar so did a quick google and turns out I've stayed there! Apparently it's filmed in Harptree Court near Bath which is a great B&B we went to about 5 years ago. Would have gone back since, but they don't allow kids.
We indulged our country house fantasies whilst there (it helped that we were the only guests) and the owner brought out afternoon tea onto the lawn for us, which I'm sure would have met with Mary Berry's approval (although maybe not the increasIngly grumpy Mr Hollywood)

PostBellumBugsy Wed 10-Oct-12 14:52:43

Am slightly in love with James even though I may just be old enough to be his mother

StrangerintheNight Wed 10-Oct-12 14:57:23

James is endearing, certainly, but agree that most of his creations look a rather brown and messy... It's understandable though if he's sitting exams in-between shooting.

BieneMaja Wed 10-Oct-12 15:01:51

I think John has run his course - it has to be between Brendan and James. I'm thinking Brendan....

In fact I think John should have gone a while back...

PostBellumBugsy Wed 10-Oct-12 15:07:06

LOL, at most of James's creations looking brown!!!! Brendan should probably get it, as I think he is technically the best (apart from creme pattisiere) even if he did make the most hideously twee gingerbread creation

ppeatfruit Wed 10-Oct-12 15:19:47

Now squoosh if you want a pin up go for salty before he --stuffed himself with cake--judges the GBBO grin Even podgy his eyes are to die for; those looks he gives when he's nearly smiling (swoon)!!!

getagoldtoof Wed 10-Oct-12 16:34:19

I just watched it - I love John, he is the only one remaining who I can relate to. Brendan turns my stomach, particularly saying he knew he had done enough to get to he final and James is not that invested in the process. In fact, that may be why I'm so keen on John: this really matters to him, and for some unfathomable reason, that really matters to me.

Wtf am I going to do with my life when bake off ends...?

wintera Wed 10-Oct-12 16:35:19

I like John but next week is definitely all about Brendan and James I agree. If they are both on top form then I would imagine it will be a tough decision between the two of them. I think Mary likes Brendan more than Paul does, and I think Paul likes James more than Mary does so t'will be interesting viewing . . . . .

wintera Wed 10-Oct-12 16:38:52

And since watching last night I have had an overwhelming urge all day to visit a Pattisserie! Not that it's going to happen at all. Nearest thing in my town would be a Greggs!

bacon Wed 10-Oct-12 16:54:39

Hate James!!!! so annoying how everything is does works and he knows so much kind of person I want to slap with 'know it all!' with his calm persona.

Annoyed that Danny went and John stayed in, he seems to wing it every week not sure if he should be near the final.

Think James will win and that annoys me. Followed by Brendon. I was also wasnt that impressed by Jo Wheatly last year as I didnt feel she was a master baker.

Have to say I'm disappointed with the final three.

PostBellumBugsy Wed 10-Oct-12 16:58:22

Bacon - how can you hate James - he is so nice, so self-deprecating, seems so genuinely talented, tall & has a lovely smile. PBB swoons slightly! grin

HoldMeCloserTonyDanza Wed 10-Oct-12 17:06:41

James is the image of DH when we met. The same hair, same smile, same misguided penchant for shorts...

outtolunchagain Wed 10-Oct-12 17:21:23

I like James , the mark of a truly gifted homebaker is how instinctive it is in my opinion.when things go wrong he is able to rescue them because he isn't necessarily following a plan , he just "knows"

Thought Brendan showed his true colours last night , going on about how his plan had been to make the final and he was sure that he had done enough , also when his patisserie went wrong he didn't know how to rescue it , similarly Danny ( though I really liked her) was floored .

I think Brendan will win but it's like a business deal to him, he set out to win and he will win , job done .

flippinada Wed 10-Oct-12 17:28:20

I agree that it will be between Brendan and James.

And I'm very disappointed Danny is not in the final but agree with whoever said it's probably a relief for her.

In fact, all the finalists are, interestingly, unencumbered by having a family/demanding career. Brendan is semi retired and John and James are young'ns just starting out.

Btw did anyone notice how tiny Brendan is? Or maybe the two J's are just really tall.

jessiegee Wed 10-Oct-12 17:54:56

I thought John looked knackered this week. He seems to find everything so hard and terribly stressful but then a lot of his stuff then comes out ok. I wish my dd could marry James. Cute, a brilliant baker, a doctor, tall, sweet. Lucky person he end up with I say. Totally agree will be between Brendan and James. I wouldn't say James and John are unencumbered by a demanding career though flippin. Training to be a doctor and a lawyer sounds v demanding.

ppeatfruit Wed 10-Oct-12 17:56:29

outtolunch Yes I ssooo agree about Brendan there seems to be something very calculating about him I don't like, he is small and the 2 other lads are TALL.

ppeatfruit Wed 10-Oct-12 17:58:18

Of course I don't have issues with his size grin

unitarian Wed 10-Oct-12 18:05:46

jessiegee Your DD would have to fight my DD for him but mine reckons that if she married him they would need his'n'hers kitchens. She stress-bakes when she's studying.

jessiegee Wed 10-Oct-12 18:26:58

unitarian its obviously more practical for my dd to marry him then as mine can't bake at all and she has colitis so live-in doctor would be v helpful. Hope that's OK with you.

wintera Wed 10-Oct-12 18:27:10

Jessiegee - regarding John being knackered - he always looks like he's been out on the piss the night before to me. If so, that's probably why he gets stressed and emotional etc. Cos he's hung over and over tired lol.

jessiegee Wed 10-Oct-12 18:35:36

He does tend to look perma-flustered does John wintera. Hadn't considered he might be hungover lol

flippinada Wed 10-Oct-12 18:40:31

Oh I agree jessie - not saying it's not demanding as I'm sure it is, but they don't have other responsibilities.

Much harder to do this if you have a demanding job plus children etc.

unitarian Wed 10-Oct-12 18:56:59

jessie I'll make my DD stand aside for yours if yours can knit nice sweaters for him.

jessiegee Wed 10-Oct-12 18:58:15

That's true flippinada John and James don't have family responsibilities. Can't imagine how flustered John would look if he also had to cope with being up half the night with a baby. His hands would be shaking so much, he'd need assistance to get his buns in and out the oven.

evilwem Wed 10-Oct-12 19:00:50

Hello all, anyone fancy joining us on the GBBO challenge thread?

outtolunchagain Wed 10-Oct-12 19:09:53

The other point is that as the technical challenges have got more difficult James has shone ( he has won the last three) Brendan though has struggled , which would seem to indicate that he is fine with a recipe or when he has been able to practice but struggles without his instructions.

John could be the dark horse , his technical bake was very good this week.

TheAngelshavetheOod Wed 10-Oct-12 19:24:51

I didnt see the last thread but got into bake off in the last few episodes. I just end up hungry though!

StrangerintheNight Wed 10-Oct-12 19:40:47

Wem I've seen all the compliments people have posted about your baking accomplishments, so no thanks to the challenge smile

jessiegee Wed 10-Oct-12 19:47:35

I don't have a functional oven. And even if I did, I can't bake.

evilwem Wed 10-Oct-12 19:49:28

You mean you've seen through my oh-so-cryptic halloween name change? Damn. That's only sugarcraft stuff though, not actual proper baking. I have a pretty limited repertoire of basic cakes and I'd love to learn more. Bread too.

Perhaps challenge was too strong a word. How about GBBO workshop instead? smile

iklboo Wed 10-Oct-12 19:57:46

Think John would be adoptive or donor dad though (NOT that that makes one iota of difference!!). Agree he works himself up so much. But if he was laid back, wound his stuff work?

houndofthebiscuittin Wed 10-Oct-12 20:08:14

Sorry, just name changed for Halloween. Yes, maybe John needs the stressy adrenaline to produce his best stuff. I was quite warming to Brendan until he got a bit boasty, saying he'd done enough to get through to the finals. Now I've gone back off him again.

StrangerintheNight Wed 10-Oct-12 20:26:16

Brendan seems very clinical and self-contained; notice they hardly ever show any clips of him chatting or interacting during the challenges. From his comments last night he just wants to win and doesn't seem to be enjoying it much.

Definitely think the pressure is getting to John

wintera Wed 10-Oct-12 20:46:17

Re - Brendan and chit chat - I thought he looked fed up with Mel last night when she came over to see him as he was completing the technical Frasier cake. She was chatting to him about it and he looked like he really wanted her to bugger off! But I can sort of understand why though. I get a bit annoyed myself if I'm busy and someone is prattling on about stuff. Must be very easy to get stressed out in that kitchen.

hiviolet Wed 10-Oct-12 21:12:04

I think it's a shame Brendan is so hated. I think it's his accent, it's so clipped it makes him sound a bit cold and unlikeable. I'm sure he's perfectly lovely IRL.

Slight aside, but does anyone have Jo Wheatley's book? It's fab, and really geared towards lovely homely family stuff (as you might imagine!). I'm really impressed with it.

noblegiraffe Wed 10-Oct-12 21:27:06

I don't like James at all! I think he tries too hard to be quirky and I thought his bicycle looked crap and his gingerbread barn was a mess and couldn't understand why they wowed over them. At least he seems to have run out of contrived ways to make things Scottish, that was getting really dull.

I like Brendan, his stuff always looks amazing and he can be funny and self-deprecating - he knew his birdhouse was awfully twee and loved his comments as he was applying mascara to the bluebird.

John is lovely, don't think he has a chance of winning but hope he doesn't let himself down in the final. One article says that he really wanted to be a baker but his parents forced him into academia and this is his chance to show them that he really can make a go of it. Bless him, I really want him to succeed.

hugoagogo Wed 10-Oct-12 21:54:33

I love James he is so cute.

I know his stuff doesn't always look that great, but I think it must taste fantastic if the judges reactions are anything to go by? We can't judge that from the telly sadly.

StrangerintheNight Wed 10-Oct-12 22:16:53

Violet Please don't count me as a Brendan hater! It's a shame he doesn't come across on tv as naturally as the other two, but that doesn't matter because this show has 'proper' judges rather than a popularity contest phone-in.

wintera Thu 11-Oct-12 06:38:44

I'm not a Brendan hater either. I think he puts people off cos he's such a perfectionist etc but it has to be said he is brilliant. Personality wise - John would be my favourite but he is not the best baker. I think it will be tough to judge between Brendan and James in the final. Am very much looking forward to it!

Ooh, I'm so excited! grin

I'm watching later than you lot because on iplayer ... I may have to find a friend with a TV to watch the final in real time.

I was sad Danni had to go, I thought she was good and she came across in the last episode as so happy to have got so far. She seems like a nice, fun person, whereas the two lads, bless them, are quite annoying! And although she made a mistake, it was one mistake that had such a huge effect!

Does anyone else find this show is hugely inconsistent in what they tell you is difficult/easy? About 90% of what they do would have me with my hands shaking, gibbering in the corner - especially the sugar work and the way they follow recipes with half the instructions out! - but then they made a really big thing of how hard it is to get choux pastry right. It's not, is it? My big brother used to make profiteroles from the time he was about 7, it was 'his' cake, and I don't recall it ever going especially wrong.

I do like Brendan. What's the homophobic comments reference on the other thread?

I actually really like that they don't make a big thing of saying 'and here is so-and-so with his GAY PARTNER, they just show clips of them at home and don't comment, just as they do with Cathryn and her children. It's nicer.

riverboat Thu 11-Oct-12 07:21:26

To whoever on the previous page said they were craving patisserie but had to put up with Gregg's, I'm the opposite! I live in Paris and have patisseries coming out of my ears, but can't get a decent pasty, sausage roll or meat pie for love nor money! As for Chelsea buns and bake wells...forget it. Maybe we could arrange a little exchange programme?

I'm a big Brendan fan. I like his dry wit and although he can be a bit smug he is often quite self deprecating too. He makes me want to be retired and baking my way through the breads of the world...

That said I do love John and James too. Its the first time in ages watching a TV competition like this that that I can say I'll be happy no matter who wins.

AuntGertrude Thu 11-Oct-12 07:31:47

James to win.

Brendan might be technically excellent but when faced with something he hasn't practised to death since the Seventies, he loses it, and more importantly, he lacks creative flair. James has serious baking skills, which because it doesn't always come off, or he loses a bit of focus, makes it look as if he is merely slap-dash; but really he is the more "natural" baker. Brendan rigidly operates according to his tastes (or those of a set recipe) and regards it an "impertinence" to deviate from them even a jot. I think a star baker has to have an element of risk-taking occasionally, as well as the overall skills. (Personality-wise, it has also been hard to like Brendan as he has come across as overly smug about his own talents and has seemed to operate apart from the other bakers.)

John is too hit-and-miss, sadly, but I hope he gets at place at the French patisserie school, that he spoke of.

wintera Thu 11-Oct-12 07:33:52

Riverboat - that was me who said I was craving going to a Pattisserie but we don't have one where I live. I could probably find one in Manchester or Liverpool though, not sure, will have to look into it. Exchange sounds good to me! Was supposed to be travelling to France this summer but I had a baby boy instead so had to put it on hold till next year!

iklboo Thu 11-Oct-12 07:41:15

Wintera - There's a Patisserie Valerie on Deansgate in Manchester. Vair nice. A little pricey but lovely for a treat. They do a gorgeous croque Monsieur as well as cakes, pastries etc. It gets very busy with ladies wot lunch. And me grin

wintera Thu 11-Oct-12 08:03:27

Thank you so much Iklboo - that is good to hear. I will definitely try that sometime soon when I am next in Manchester. Sounds great! Ta!

LetUsPrey Thu 11-Oct-12 08:15:15

Marking place for final! So excited!!! Look, I'm overusing exclamation marks!!

squoosh Thu 11-Oct-12 08:44:26

Brendan is not smug he just has confidence in his abilities. Faux modesty is what really gets on my wick. Also I think Brendan is quite shy, and some people are perceiving that as arrogance, but agree that he is also self deprecating.

He seems LOVELY on twitter.

GO BRENDAN!

ppeatfruit Thu 11-Oct-12 08:48:52

Auntgertrude I totally agree; flexibility is needed in everything in life including baking! JAMES TO WIN!!!!

squoosh Thu 11-Oct-12 08:49:28

Also James cannot win with such scruffy offerings even if they do taste as good as licking Ryan Gosling's thigh.

Sadly I have not licked Ryan Gosling's thighs. One day, one day . . . . . .

ppeatfruit Thu 11-Oct-12 09:07:55

Brendan needs flexibility; would you prefer a cake that looked amazing but tasted shxx or a not perfect looking cake that tasted wonderful squoosh? I know which I'd prefer grin I do realise this is a contest and theyre supposed to give both but you can't have everything grin

I would like James to win. I love his casual flair exemplified when his gingerbread barn went wrong yet still turned out like a work of art. (Incidentally, Danny's Big Ben tower looked like something a five year old would draw and she tried so hard with it!) James has the courage of youth and it is very attractive. Plus, looks (the baking, not his) aren't everything and it does seem to me that Mary and Paul praise his flavours and textures a lot.

Having said that, I think Brendan is going to win. I am sorry, but he has always rather creeped me out since the first episode. I would hate to be his neighbour and be subjected to his creations all the time blush

John, I think is very sweet. His Colosseum was amazing! But this week, he looked on the verge of tears so much, despite all the praise he got, so I think the pressure is getting to him. He needn't worry, I'm sure getting to the final is enough to allow him to make a career out of baking. I suppose he brings out the mother in me. I want to give him a hug and tell him not to worry so much.

riverboat Thu 11-Oct-12 09:19:35

But Brendan's bakes have never been accused of tasting bad, as far as I remember! He's had less 'truly outstanding taste' feedback than some other contestants, but still a lot of positive feedback in this area, combined with his amazing presentation and impressive knowledge and consistency...Brendan for the win!

squoosh Thu 11-Oct-12 09:25:26

But Brendan's taste good and look good. James' may taste good but they don't look very appealing.

Well, having read on Danny's blog about how spiteful some people have been online I am not going to say anything remotely critical! I so want to be her friend - couple of bottles of wine, those nice crackers she made, and she'd be able to patch me up if I overdid it and fell over.

I saw Paul Hollywood on Sunday. Literature festival. He just said hello, didn't stop and chat, but probably for the best as I would have just blushed and gibbered. Sigh.

My money's on Brendan, he seems to be the most consistent. Did anyone see that programme following a bunch of people going through the French Master Patissier train

sorry, phone. French Master Patissier training. I spent the entire time with my jaw dropped to the floor, the skill level required was extraordinary, made GBBO look like I Can Cook.

wintera Thu 11-Oct-12 10:02:07

Interesting point about Danny saying comments on line had been nasty etc. I was only thinking to myself the other day that I would never ever volunteer to take part in any kind of tv show like GBBO. Its inevitable that you are going to be scrutinized and in some respects slagged off so I just wouldn't want to put myself through it at all personally.

Oh and regarding Ryan Gosling's thigh - couldn't agree more, he is my new crush after watching a couple of films with him in recently! Good Looks and amazing acting talent as well!

Jins Thu 11-Oct-12 10:05:21

I wanted Danny to win sad. I liked her best and I thought the flavours she put together were great.

I don't care who wins as long as it isn't Brendan. I'm not feeling the love for the marguerite patten style of baking and the man irritates me

ppeatfruit Thu 11-Oct-12 10:08:01

I don't want to make this a 'knock Brendan' post but the judges never go OTT about his flavours in some cases they've been quite critical. Like they're nothing special. JAMES TO WIN!! (d''you think if I say it enough it'll happen grin?

I love James, but I really liked John's choux gateau, soooo pretty. I do think James has been fairly consistent throughout and I like him. I have never warmed to Brendan, I can't even say why. Shame Danny went.

Somebody is going to make fondant fancies next week. God, this really is not the thing to be watching when on a diet.

Lottapianos Thu 11-Oct-12 10:22:17

It's such a great program. I love John - he's so sweet and he wants it so much but I agree he's not in the same league as the other two. James is lovely and has a real instinctive flair for baking, although I agree his bicycle looked quite rubbish. I can understand why people don't warm to Brendan, although I do have a soft spot for him. They said earlier in the series that he has always loved baking and wanted to pursue it professionally but his family couldn't afford to support him through his training so he had to shelve his dream and do something else instead. That makes me sad. He's been waiting for this for a long time. And I loved his twee birdhouse!

But to be honest, I don't really mind who wins so long as Paul Hollywood does lots of his trademark hard staring in the final <swoons> even if he is a grumpy git

squoosh Thu 11-Oct-12 10:26:38

But James has had so many things that they've disliked the taste of, Brendan hasn't . Mary (and Paul) has been in raptures over Brendan's offerings (!) on many an occasion.

I just wish they'd be more honest about James' inventiveness. I can well believe it's down to the editing and not he himself but I do think they are editing unfairly so as to present him as some kind of wunderkind. To my mind Brendan has borne all the 70's jibing with very good grace.

www.dailystar.com.lb/Culture/Lifestyle/2012/Mar-09/166031-raspberry-and-chili-secrets-of-the-macaron-master.ashx#axzz28ysdpCmi

BRENDAN TO WIN!!!

<feels slightly over emotionally invested and has a lie down>

squoosh Thu 11-Oct-12 10:27:20

Controversial opinion alert: I'm indifferent to Paul Hollywood's charms.

Paul has lovely eyes

DinosaurSchool Thu 11-Oct-12 10:32:56

squoosh me too! He's such a misery and really nowt special to look at.

I really can't stand Brendan, he is too safe and although I know its not the point of the show but he doesn't seem to bother with the other contestants at all.

I'd like John to win, for his desperation to keep baking even with a glove full of blood grin

I'm quite in awe of the macarons, any flavour, after three friends of mine, all competent bakers, spent three weekends trying to make them and just about lost the plot.

squoosh it's just as well, what with the emotional investment, if you fancied Mr H as well it would be all TOO MUCH.

Lottapianos Thu 11-Oct-12 10:34:07

squoosh, how could you! wink

Is anyone planning to buy a really lovely slice of cake to eating during the final? Coz you know you are going to be drooling at Paul Hollywood and in need of something sweet!

squoosh Thu 11-Oct-12 10:49:12

The true romance of this year's GBBO!

9th Oct
James Morton
@bakingjames Oh Brendan, I love you. #GBBO

9th Oct
Brendan Lynch
@brendanbakes The feeling is mutual James!

MrsjREwing Thu 11-Oct-12 11:08:41

So sad Danny left.

I would prefer a natural baker win over a perfectionist who practiced recipies to death.

HoldMeCloserTonyDanza Thu 11-Oct-12 11:18:04

I think Brendan and James are both brilliant and would be happy with either winning.

:takes out guitar, begin chorus of Kumbaya:

WingDefence Thu 11-Oct-12 11:19:33

I haven't read the whole of this new thread but oes anyone else think the standard isn't quite as good as in previous years?

I mean I do like the Brendonator and James but last year, any one of Mary-Anne, Holly (my fave) and Jo could have one whereas this year James and Brendan were outliers from the start.

Do you think it's because they made the challenges so much harder this year, so more people looked worse in their baking IYKWIM?

hmm

squoosh Thu 11-Oct-12 11:23:21

<gives HoldMeCloseTonyDanza a beady eyed stare>

Just who do you think you are coming onto this thread with your good will to all men nonsense?

squoosh Thu 11-Oct-12 11:25:58

I think you're right WingDefence I'm not sure the standard is as high this year. I loved Mary-Anne, although her blood pressure seemed rise week on week. I didn't see the whole series last year so can't remember the technical challenges. I'd have thought the UK was teeming with highly skilled bakers.

piggyballerina Thu 11-Oct-12 11:27:54

I adore Brendan and his exquisite eye for detail. Adore.

I want them all to win an open a patisserie near me. I hanker for fluffy cream cygnets.

noblegiraffe Thu 11-Oct-12 11:42:39

I have decided that I want Brendan to win. James is training in medicine and we need doctors. Brendan wants to go into retirement homes and make old people happy by baking with them.

evilwem Thu 11-Oct-12 11:50:00

<Links arms with HoldMeCloserTonyDanza and joins chorus> I like to see people do well, and it'll be exciting to see who wins, but I don't like the way these competitions encourage viewers to take against some competitors against their personal favourite.

Someone further back on the thread mentioned a program following people doing the Master Patissier training. I'd love to see that - anyone know what it was called?

evilwem Thu 11-Oct-12 11:50:46

Not sure that first sentence makes sense, got distracted half way through...

ppeatfruit Thu 11-Oct-12 12:12:12

well when it gets to this stage they'll all get their ambitions realised that's what I like about telly contests it doesn't REALLY matter who wins now does it?(ducks the flames from squoosh grin)

wintera as you said if you're going in for a telly contest you're deffo going to be scrutinised! And have comments negative and positive made publicly about you you have to have a thick skin grin !!

little Hi grin Yes it's not easy when you're on a diet to watch GBBO I think they should have a challenge to make a wheat free cake or loaf that'd get them! Paul Hollywood's in need! Yeah his eyes (swoon)

wing Yes! IMO it's been much harder for the contestants this time P.H. and M.B. said it at the beginning.

lakeofshiningwaters Thu 11-Oct-12 12:31:22

Oooo, I LOVE GBBO, makes me very tense, very hungry and very inspired all at once! I like James, and would happily beg him on bended knees let him cook a meal for me.

John is fab, and I just loved the idea of him and his architect partner sitting at home with a glass of wine making templates for his epic collesium (sp?). How anyone can be against gay marriage with that image in their head I don't know?

But for me, it's Brendan FTW! His is the food I would most like to steal and pass off as my own eat, plus I've had a soft spot for him since his disco dips were revealed!

PS i'd also love to know the name of the Master Patissiere programme.

ppeatfruit Thu 11-Oct-12 12:45:18

On the subject of macarons they are soooo sugary here (in Fr.) that they put your teeth on edge. I did buy some organic ones which were amazingly good and not anywhere near as sweet, it's not nec. IMO.

squoosh Thu 11-Oct-12 12:56:47

I have never had a macaron. Ever.

When they started becoming fashionable a couple of years ago I thought people were referring to old school coconut macaroons that the Famous Five were always tucking into.

I'm clearly a cake pleb. I'll get my coat blush

flippinada Thu 11-Oct-12 13:09:03

Could someone post a link to Danny's blog please?

I agree about the nasty comments, not necessary.

<links arms with HoldMeCloser and sings Kumbaya>

piggyballerina Thu 11-Oct-12 13:11:43

What nasty comments flippinada?

squoosh Thu 11-Oct-12 13:12:34

Yes, what nasty comments?

flippinada Thu 11-Oct-12 13:14:39

Not on here, but there have been some very off colour comments on the FB page.

I de-liked because of it, despite my love of all things bake off.

Oh, that's horrible.

Why are people such twits?

Honestly, it's a show about baking cakes, how much more inoffensive could it be?!

I've never had a macaroon either. Or a whoopie pie (whatever happened to them?) or a cake pop <traditionalist>.

I'll have a google and try and find the French Patissier thing.

wintera Thu 11-Oct-12 13:20:52

Yes the nasty comments are not on here - someone wrote that Danny from GBBO had wrote on her blog that she had seen nasty comments about people from the show online. And apparently there has been some homophobic comments made on the GBBO Facebook page too.

piggyballerina Thu 11-Oct-12 13:25:59

That is horrible and there is no need for nastiness.

I too have never eaten a macaron but saw them for sale in M&S very expensive

wintera Thu 11-Oct-12 13:27:37

Oh I've had a whoopie pie, they are very nice. I bought some from the Co-op store nearby. Think it was part of their Truly irresistible range. And I've had those posh macaroons as well, what are they called? There's a certain company that makes them . . Very posh I think. Got some once for my birthday. Not had a cake pop yet though but am open to offers lol!

squoosh Thu 11-Oct-12 13:32:48

It certainly must be a shock to the system to go from being your ordinary self, to suddenly realising that random people you've never met have strongly held opinions on you.

Imagine what it was like for poor Susan Boyle who went from unknown to global fame in literally 24 hours. My head would have popped.

wintera Thu 11-Oct-12 13:42:21

Have remembered the name of those posh macaroons - Laduree. Very nice, with unusual flavours too.

evilwem Thu 11-Oct-12 13:44:01

Absolutely squoosh. I'd love to do something like GBBO, but the idea of being on tv - <shudder>

WhyTheBigGoldPaws Thu 11-Oct-12 13:44:42

I am going to be GUTTED when GBBO is over, it's such lovely comforting telly!

I'd be happy to see any of the final 3 win but think Brendan probably deserves to because he has made so few mistakes. I liked Jo from last year (and her book's good) but I thought a winner who'd screwed up in a previous episode by setting her oven to defrost (and made a few other fairly big screw-ups IIRC) was a bit of a shame. She was good, but the best baker in the UK? I'm not sure. That said I love James' instinctive feel for baking - he really 'gets' it, rather than just following recipes, that thing he did with the mousse this week was very clever. I like John a lot but he doesn't really deserve to be in the final as he's had a few near misses, would still be pleased to see him win though as he wants it so badly.

I met the luscious Mr H at the Cake and Bake Show the other week and can confirm he is just as attractive in real life - those eyes... <swoons>

wintera Thu 11-Oct-12 13:47:17

Exactly squoosh - that's why I could never do it. An old workmate of mine really wants to go on Come dine with me, personally I can't think of anything worse! Would hate it, not even the thousand pounds would be worth the hassle!

squoosh Thu 11-Oct-12 13:48:19

I wonder how Mrs H is coping with all these outpourings of lust for her husband.

ouryve Thu 11-Oct-12 13:48:25

James has been sitting med school exams, so I understand exactly why he's been a bit ad hoc when it comes to planning.

With more time to prepare and a bit of Brendan's discipline, he'd be pretty bloody fantastic. Now his exams are over, I have a feeling he might pull it out of the hat for the final. (plus - gorgeous knitwear - what's not to love?)

ppeatfruit Thu 11-Oct-12 13:58:23

Laduree are the makers I think they're a patisserie in Paris they're very famous wintera when you're near a branch of Paul in Fr, and I think there's one or 2 in London try their macarons LOVELY grin the chocolate ones are TDF.

Why I remember feeling gutted when the last contest finished; they're doing a master workshop for 2 weeks afterwards.smile

Danny's blog is called bakingastherapy - post re nasty comments is called something like The Carpetbagging of GBBO. Some nice recipes, plus interesting the extent to which she winged it!

wintera Thu 11-Oct-12 14:02:53

Yeah they gorgeous those macaroons. My sister in law bought me some once for my birthday. She lives near London and knew I wanted to try them so she got me some. I think she went to Harrods to get them as well so it was extra special! Never had anything from Harrods before!

squoosh Thu 11-Oct-12 14:10:52

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0074hk7

James' Dad has a programme on BBC Radio Scotland. So for all who have big girlie crushes on James, this is what he will look like in 30 years time or so. I think he looks like a wise Victorian lighthouse keeper.

Hi pp Ah, Paul. We have stopped at those on our travels across France. Only in France would you get a fab bakery at services. Have you had the croissant with frangipane filling from there?

I still love a good tarte tatin. I have never had a macaroon, but want one.

GBB is such a good prog to chill in front of. It's a shame Mel and Sue don't do anything else on tv together. I miss Light Lunch, pummels awful Loose Women into the ground. I think James is Sue's favourite.

ppeatfruit Thu 11-Oct-12 14:21:10

Cheers squoosh! he's not bad at all actually! (nearer my age group blush)

PostBellumBugsy Thu 11-Oct-12 14:31:28

I'm really going to miss it when it's over too. It cuts across all generations, as DD, me & my mum all love it!

ppeatfruit Thu 11-Oct-12 14:46:04

hello little Oh please don't mention those almond croissants they are FANTASTIC or they were when I used to eat them ! Can you imagine how hard it is to live here and be off wheat ??!!!! shock

ouryve Thu 11-Oct-12 14:46:31

Agreeing - DS1 loves it - though Danny wouldn't be pleased to know that he cheered when she was eliminated.blush

ppeatfruit Thu 11-Oct-12 14:47:52

I should try and make them with spelt flour but the work involved is amazing and the BUTTER!!!

Cuts across the generations here too from 6 year old DD to 75 year old DM. My DCs were so impressed with the gingerbread houses last week.

Found a link about the French Patissier competition, but you can't watch it.

Kings of Pastry

There's a very funny trailer for it on YouTube (put in Kings of Pastry) and according to Google it's on Netflix.

Just marking my place smile can't wait for next week

squoosh Thu 11-Oct-12 15:45:23

I'm low carbing at the moment so won't be scoffing cake for the final. I'm sure a bottle of red wine will suffice nicely. And maybe some cheese.

evilwem Thu 11-Oct-12 15:58:12

That looks fantastic WhoKnows . One for the LoveFilm list smile

jammic Thu 11-Oct-12 16:17:38

Swans! Poor Brendan, he always looks so upset when they talk about his 70s repertoire and then he brings out even more 70s stuff! I wonder what he'll do next.

I'm going to be a true Brit and support the underdog. Go John!

pp how do you manage to be on a diet with all those wonderful pastries and confections in France! I salute you! grin. I would turn into a calorific gateau if I lived there......a great big one with raspberries, almonds and....

wintera Thu 11-Oct-12 20:28:27

Well at the end of the last ep it showed a clip of the finale and Brendan seemed to be making Fondant Fancies. Have decided I will now buy a pack of Mr Kipling's to eat when the finale is on. What the hell - I may even buy a pack of the Halloween themed ones and really push the boat out. Oh yes indeedy - nommy noms!!

LetUsPrey Thu 11-Oct-12 23:19:55

I want James to win but won't be overly gutted if Brendan wins. Don't think John will do it but he's a complete sweetie anyway.

Mighty mighty monk seal blog grin

I do like James. I'd eat anything he put in front of me. And cake too wink

<brings tone crashing down>

CaseyShraeger Thu 11-Oct-12 23:29:46

I think James will win, but I'd be happy to see any of them do it.

jammic Fri 12-Oct-12 07:38:11

Oooh fondant fancies. Well if Brendan doesn't win, they can crown him king of the 70s instead.

jammic Fri 12-Oct-12 07:56:26

Sod it, they just crown him king of the 70s anyway whether he wins or not.

jennymac Fri 12-Oct-12 08:51:24

I like all the finalists and I think that James is amazing for his age and will be even more so after a few years of baking. However, I do really like Brendan and believe that he deserves to win. I don't think he is arrogant but probably just shy and maybe used to being quite private about his life which makes it hard for him to be extrovert on TV.

ppeatfruit Fri 12-Oct-12 09:08:04

little Thanks grin but I DID put on nearly 3 stone when we first came here!! hence the diet and now I've lost it I have to careful ALL the time grin but I'll tell you a secret French chocolate is better than any I've ever tasted (we are foodies too!!) I still have a couple of pieces of the v. dark stuff every day and make brownies from it! It's good for you grin.

jennymac Br. IMO doesn't have many social skills so maybe that's why he puts his foot in his mouth every time he opens it grin

Jins Fri 12-Oct-12 09:52:25

I'm going to back the underdog too. John needs a slightly overweight woman cheering for him!

ppeatfruit Fri 12-Oct-12 10:17:44

letus Mighty monk was even funnier this week thanks so much for that I'm wiping my eyes from laughing grin

wintera Sat 13-Oct-12 07:23:16

Went out yesterday and bought a box of Mr Kipling's French fancies to enjoy while I watch the finale. Told dh about my plan and he said 'wow, we really know how to live it up!' grin

ppeatfruit Sat 13-Oct-12 07:30:31

yeah wintera where's yr. baking pans and flour and stuff?

Bilbobagginstummy Sat 13-Oct-12 07:45:37

wintera - you've more restraint than I have. If I bought a box on Friday I'd need to get another before Tuesday evening. blush

I do love the bake-off - riveting telly. But, really, you can't beat a Victoria Sponge and they take about 45 minutes start to finish.

wintera Sat 13-Oct-12 07:47:30

I've bought French fancies because in the trailer for next week's show I am sure I saw a clip of Brendan making one. This made me remember the fact that I am quite partial to a French fancy! Haven't had any in a while so thought I would treat myself. Don't tell my mum though, I have recently lost a lot of weight and if my mum see's me eating anything naughty she says 'oh dear, you'll be getting a taste for those things again and putting the weight back on'! She seems to think I must eat salad for the rest of my life!

wintera Sun 14-Oct-12 07:20:37
ppeatfruit Sun 14-Oct-12 11:32:00

Wow thanks wintera that John looks amazing doesn't he? i love james and his sweet GF in matching woollies. Tell you what Br. looks weirder than ever with dark hair grin

VikingVagineGhoulnamStyle Sun 14-Oct-12 20:51:33

I'm in France too, surrounded by amazing pattisiers, yet all I want for Tuesday is a French fancy like the rest of you, and obviously you can't get them here hmm

LetUsPrey Sun 14-Oct-12 20:59:13

Was reading my mum's copy of the Radio Times today. The fondant fancy thing is the technical bake. The first round is a pithivier apparently. I don't know what that is but I'm looking forward to finding out. Last round is a chiffon cake.

Bring on Tuesday!

flippinada Sun 14-Oct-12 21:01:41

I broke my rule of never looking at Daily Mail links to read that as it's about GBBO and therefore exempt.

I have to say John seems very sweet but he's just a bit too little-boyish.

I re-warmed to James after reading that. He does seem like a really genuine and all round nice chap although <boak> at the utter tweeness of a tandem ride around France.

And and and - they GOT HIS NAME WRONG. It's Morton NOT Horton.

Whoever wins on Tuesday I will be happy as they are all so NICE.

Skillbo Sun 14-Oct-12 22:28:23

Go John!

VikingVagineGhoulnamStyle Mon 15-Oct-12 06:18:31

Love Brendan and James but have a niggling feeling that John is going to wow us with fabulous bakes this week, thus granting him the title because he has shown how much he's evolved as with Jo last year .

ppeatfruit Mon 15-Oct-12 07:56:33

Viking Hi BTW nice to see another Frenchy!! Make one!! isn't that what this is all about FFS!!! letus A pithiviers looks a bit like the wheels of James's bike!! loads of flat buttery pastry with an almond centre (I think) grin

wintera Mon 15-Oct-12 09:02:43

So you can't get French fancies in France? How very ironic! grin

HoldMeCloserTonyDanza Mon 15-Oct-12 17:48:51

I know LetUsPrey I love James and hipster rubbish in general but that was too much even for me!!

I had a dream about GBBO last night blush. It's good it's ending this week, I need to get a grip!

riverboat Mon 15-Oct-12 18:20:59

I can confirm that I've never seen a French Fancy here in France.

I had a friend visiting at the weekend, and since we are both Bake Off fans, we spent an afternoon baking GBBO style. We made the fraisier cake and the plaited loaf. Almost fell at the first hurdle since it turns out it's also practically impossible to find a loose bottomed cake tin in France, but we got one eventually (at an extortionate price). Anyway, our plaited loaf was OK, but only half plaited since I messed up the beginning bit. And it didn't have quite the pleasing hollow knock sound to it that some of the GBBO contenstants' did. On the other hand, our Fraisier was a triumph! It stayed together and everything, and even though our creme pat got cellulite (Danny style) at one point, we brought it back from the brink.

I have to say though, there were two of us and it took us a good 4.5 hours non stop baking to get it all done. It must be an absolute nightmare doing it alone, under such time pressure, with cameras up in your face and only bare bones instructions!

There's an article on the Guardian website today about the final 3 here

I will be interested to see what a real French Fancy is like, the only ones i've ever tried are Mr Kipling and those are one of the worst offenders in the looks nice tastes dreadful stakes as far as I am concerned.

I'd love John to win but I still think Brendan probably will.

ppeatfruit Mon 15-Oct-12 20:48:37

whoKnows I'm with you about kipling cakes;it might sound snobbish but i wouldn't touch one with a bargepole grin the amount of sugar and cheap marg. YEUCH

ppeatfruit Tue 16-Oct-12 08:39:35

Hey everyone P.H. and M.B. are on Radio 2 now!!!

squoosh Tue 16-Oct-12 11:20:44

Mr Kipling's French Fancies don't really stand up to revisiting. Best left for 8 year old's birthday parties.

wintera Tue 16-Oct-12 13:50:28

Aww I like a Mr Kipling's French fancy myself. Something quite nostalgic about it in fact.

Paul Hollywood and Mary Berry were on Chris Evans's show on radio two this morning, I heard them whilst doing the school run. There's going to be a special show on at Christmas were they show us how to bake traditional Christmas Fayre.

squoosh Tue 16-Oct-12 13:56:36

Oh don't get me wrong I'd eat one if it was in front of me! The only cakey things I flat out refuse are cakes with dried fruit and cakes with marzipan.

Poledra Tue 16-Oct-12 14:22:41

Just a quick plea -please please do not put any spoilers about the winner into the title of a thread (actually, I'm preaching to the converted here - y'all are going to be on this thread and I can avoid it).It's just that I watch Bake Off with the children, and they can't stay up till 9pm on a school night just for a telly programme.

I loved Brendan's cygnets - they looked so pretty. But, now that I have discovered that James is the mighty Tom Morton's son, I might have to cheer him on. Tom Morton was responsible for me regularly being late to the lab when doing my PhD, as I used to lie in bed listening to him and thinking 'Just 5 more mintes...'

squoosh Tue 16-Oct-12 14:27:21

Tom Morton was responsible for me regularly being late to the lab when doing my PhD, as I used to lie in bed listening to him and thinking 'Just 5 more mintes

Goodness me! How rude.

squoosh Tue 16-Oct-12 14:29:26

But how will you avoid hearing who's won for 24hrs? You will need to shut yourself away in a room and tape up the doors. It'll be everywhere!

Poledra Tue 16-Oct-12 14:32:16

I will be wearing ear defenders, not looking at any screens which are connected to t'internet, and refusing to speak to anyone other than for work matters grin

Don't get the 'How rude!' bit...

squoosh Tue 16-Oct-12 14:33:14

I was imagining you having an affair with Tom Morton, hence he made you late for your lab.

N'mind!

Poledra Tue 16-Oct-12 14:37:55

I wish! Sadly, he was only on my radio... Sorry for being dense!

squoosh Tue 16-Oct-12 14:40:10

Not dense at all, sadly I have a smutty mind.

Let us know how your get on with your avoidance tactics. God help the colleague who acidentally blurts it out!

dementedma Tue 16-Oct-12 15:08:39

I want john to win. He's waspishly funny,and was robbed of star baker for his Colosseum! Don't get the James-love. For overall consistency it should be Brendan.
Can't wait to watch it tonight but apparently there is some bloody football game on.....wields rolling pin menacingly at DH

ppeatfruit Tue 16-Oct-12 15:13:41

squoosh did you hear the bit when Salty said "we actually get to EAT the food it's not just what it looks like" he was talking to the people on t'internet IMO a bit showoffy; he came over a bit bad tempered and Mary as lovely.

squoosh Tue 16-Oct-12 16:01:59

I think PH is probably letting all the adoration go to his head a bit, he's quite the star these days. I'm sure Mary will keep him in line, can't see her going in for any of that nonsense.

StrangerintheNight Tue 16-Oct-12 16:42:14

Up to speed on all the episodes now, and looking forward to the final. Have forgotten to treat myself to a slice of fancy shop-bought cake for tonight, so may have to actually make one. Where's the fun in that? Do those microwave mug cake recipes actually work or taste any good? Don't feel I can justify baking a full sized cake, as there's a very high chance I would scoff it all in front of tv.

StrangerintheNight Tue 16-Oct-12 16:45:54

Yes, read that PH is getting his own bread based series next year so he's clearly enjoying the limelight. He even admitted he'd want to take part in Strictly if they asked him, so watch out...

ppeatfruit Tue 16-Oct-12 16:54:03

Well he could certainly do with the exercise on Strictly after all the stuffing he does in GBBO grin.

Stranger i've made successful sponge puddings in the microwave so I shouldn't think cakes would be difficult; much quicker that's for sure!

Bilbobagginstummy Tue 16-Oct-12 17:44:06

Are there any alternatives to Mr Kipling's French Fancies, though?

considers pre-bake-off mercy dash to supermarket in town several miles away if there are

squoosh Tue 16-Oct-12 17:46:50

Marks do some very nice small French pear tarts. Heck any cake will do!

VikingVagineGhoulnamStyle Tue 16-Oct-12 18:37:14

Oh god I have no cake, nothing! I had a really long day at work and just can't bring myself to whip something up. Has anyone got a really really easy recipe I can stick in a cup in the microwave?

StrangerintheNight Tue 16-Oct-12 18:46:10

Right, I'm going to try the Nutella Mug Cake. Currently having a reasoned and grown up discussion with DH as to whether football or GBBO is being watched live or recorded.

wintera Tue 16-Oct-12 18:54:57

I've got French fancies in the cupboard and choc eclaires in the fridge so I'm good to go!

Molehillmountain Tue 16-Oct-12 19:03:53

I'm late to this thread but so looking forward to to tonight. Am I allowed to stay if I admit to loving Kipling's Fondant fancies? Happy to share the biscuits ds (clean hands wink) and I made today.

squoosh Tue 16-Oct-12 19:33:08

Molehill no shame in enjoying a luminous pink French fancy!

I didn't go for cake, thought a nice French red would be better for my nerves!

bacon Tue 16-Oct-12 19:38:41

Loved Mary & Paul on Chris Evans this morning the duo work so well togther.

Looking forward to the pouring fondant as I want to have a go at this.

Surprised that some people fancy James, really??? He's just far to nerdy. Still think John has winged it for most of it. Shame there isnt one lady in the final.

Just watching the Hairy Bikers, kids are going to bed now!

wintera Tue 16-Oct-12 19:59:49

Here we go!!

wintera Tue 16-Oct-12 20:04:48

I really really don't like Sue's trousers. Just saying . . .

"James learned to bake as a boy". He is still a boy! grin

MrsY Tue 16-Oct-12 20:12:59

I love John.

That's all!

TheSandstoneCat Tue 16-Oct-12 20:14:29

... and I really dislike James' shorts. Go Brendan!

ILovePonyo Tue 16-Oct-12 20:14:32

Aw I love Brendan grin he's funny! He just made a catholic guilt joke!

LexiLoganberry Tue 16-Oct-12 20:15:13

Is it just me or did John's mum not come across very well, seemed to put him down a bit.

Calyx Tue 16-Oct-12 20:16:47

Lexi I thought that about his mum too. And his sister 'we can be proud of him for once' no wonder he's got no confidence sad

flippinada Tue 16-Oct-12 20:16:56

Whoever would have thought that a programme about baking could be so nerve wracking!

Did MB just say 'your lovely sausage' to John?

OMG soggy bottom!

flippinada Tue 16-Oct-12 20:19:04

Agree about John's family Calyx. I thought they sounded rather dismissive and unpleasant - couldn't they think of one nice thing to say? Although I guess it could have been nerves but still..

Calyx Tue 16-Oct-12 20:21:42

The other two have such good support and poor John...! I want him not to come last so his family have something to praise him for. I don't think he will win unfortunately!

wintera Tue 16-Oct-12 20:22:36

No its not just you, I thought that as well. Was really surprised actually, but then they seem to make a big deal about the fact that he is expected to have a legal career etc. But there's a chance it has been edited to make it look like she is disapproving. This is a surprise so far no? John and Brendan doing really well. Hope this round goes better for James!

coffeeinbed Tue 16-Oct-12 20:23:38

Oh that's pink!

Paste food colouring, that was NEVER going to be delicate pink!

wintera Tue 16-Oct-12 20:25:59

Christ that fondant is a nightmare! I'm sticking with my Mr Kiplings!

dapplegrey Tue 16-Oct-12 20:26:14

Yes, it could have been edited to make her look disapproving. Iirc he rang her a couple of episodes ago to tell her that he was through to the next round and they had a nice chat.

WipsGlitter Tue 16-Oct-12 20:26:36

They are a mess!

DinosaurSchool Tue 16-Oct-12 20:28:23

I had NO idea they were so hard to make!

That was a hideous technical challenge!

Jux Tue 16-Oct-12 20:32:16

Chiffon cake? I've never heard of it!

coffeeinbed Tue 16-Oct-12 20:33:05

It's american.
Egg whites, then the yolks and oil.

wintera Tue 16-Oct-12 20:34:22

John's cake sounds fit! Hope it turns out ok.

TheSandstoneCat Tue 16-Oct-12 20:35:55

Yes - we thought John's women were mean spirited "he's never won anything in his life" - charming. Warming more and more to Brendan with his catholic guilt jokes, his younger partner and rift-healing cake.

OH!!!

marshmallowpies Tue 16-Oct-12 20:37:35

Oh James!! Noooooooo!
Never put a cake on a stool, people.

trumpton Tue 16-Oct-12 20:38:03

Oh no ! Cake down !

wintera Tue 16-Oct-12 20:38:09

Oh crap! Poor poor James!

coffeeinbed Tue 16-Oct-12 20:38:10

Blimey.
I knew something was off when they said this thing about the timing...

flippinada Tue 16-Oct-12 20:38:30

I don't see anyone could not warm to Brendan after that.

I wonder if John's family were edited to look mean because he doesn't win and they're going for sympathy?

ILoveOnionRings Tue 16-Oct-12 20:39:05

It does say that on page one of Mary Berrys book wink

coffeeinbed Tue 16-Oct-12 20:39:38

I still don't like Brendan.
Sorry Flip.

StrangerintheNight Tue 16-Oct-12 20:41:05

Ok, the sob story has worked. I now want Poor John to win. Doubt it will make him any less insecure though.

wintera Tue 16-Oct-12 20:41:23

What's up with James this week at all? Its like he doesn't want to win! John's looks very nice indeed.

TheSandstoneCat Tue 16-Oct-12 20:41:30

Wow - John is looking like a real winner for the first time...... That cake looks amazing.

expatinscotland Tue 16-Oct-12 20:42:05

Danny's hair looks so much better!

flippinada Tue 16-Oct-12 20:42:06

Or it could be the complete opposite....

Can't watch ...

flippinada Tue 16-Oct-12 20:43:40

Fair enough coffee - I think he's the kind of person you either like or don't.

I like him so that's ok!

Oooh here we go...

The picking up of the cakes does my head in!

Calyx Tue 16-Oct-12 20:44:18

I thought James was nervous and now this cake splat! Poor thing. Emotionally I want John to win but on results all through Brendan probably deserves it. So James will likely win! It's exciting smile

WipsGlitter Tue 16-Oct-12 20:45:07

Sob. I heart Brendan.

Jux Tue 16-Oct-12 20:45:12

Aw, sweetie-Brendon.

MrsY Tue 16-Oct-12 20:45:58

I am warming to Brendan. I had him pegged as a Buddhist from the begining.

Jux Tue 16-Oct-12 20:46:42

The sponge looks quite elastic.

Chocolate cake. Mmmmmmmm ...

marshmallowpies Tue 16-Oct-12 20:47:55

Gawd Brendan tugging at the heartstrings. Don't go all mushy on us after being Blue Steel all these weeks. Gah.

I'm for James!

Oh I can't stand Brendan angry

Oh, yum.

Jux Tue 16-Oct-12 20:49:20

I think Brendan's cake looks amazing.

flippinada Tue 16-Oct-12 20:49:34

That just made me like Brendan even more.

wintera Tue 16-Oct-12 20:49:37

God this could go any way! How exciting!

James, wtf?

coffeeinbed Tue 16-Oct-12 20:51:35

Oh!

Clary Tue 16-Oct-12 20:51:37

Brendan I'm saying!
sad as I wanted james to win but Brendan is the king here

Jux Tue 16-Oct-12 20:51:40

Oh dear. Poor James.

Clary Tue 16-Oct-12 20:52:04

"That cake is like a cloud"

Jux Tue 16-Oct-12 20:52:16

Not fair to keep tasting different cakes, though.

hugoagogo Tue 16-Oct-12 20:52:45

John's cake looked the best, even though he used the evil coconut!

ImpatientOne Tue 16-Oct-12 20:53:01

sad for James

TheSandstoneCat Tue 16-Oct-12 20:53:05

So bye, bye James methinks

wintera Tue 16-Oct-12 20:53:45

John's cake was everything I love in a cake. Chocolate and also lemon. Wow. It's got to be Brendan surely? James can't possibly do it now . .

Jux Tue 16-Oct-12 20:53:51

Luckily, I'm quite happy whoever wins. grin

Minimammoth Tue 16-Oct-12 20:54:22

John to win for me. Brendan too well just toooo.

BeardofZeus Tue 16-Oct-12 20:54:53

Brendan to win! But John needs to bake me that cake.

Clary Tue 16-Oct-12 20:55:09

Really as PH is saying Brendan is the man for technical ability aand knowledge.

The only thing that has pulled him back has been his forays into cuteness andn 70s retro, which is a matter of taste rather than skill anyway, so iit has to be him.

sad

marshmallowpies Tue 16-Oct-12 20:55:12

Really hoping John might swing it now James has blown it. I'm not a Brendan fan, sorry. But I guess it IS going to be him, and then he can look smug & lord it over them all, like he clearly wants to...

I think it's Brendan.

flippinada Tue 16-Oct-12 20:55:40

I think it'll be Brendan or James.

Blimey, this is almost as exciting as Andy Murray winning the Grand Slam!

IdaBlankenship Tue 16-Oct-12 20:55:57

Poor James... sad

Minimammoth Tue 16-Oct-12 20:55:59

Yesss

But that chocolate cake ... mm.

hopingtodrive Tue 16-Oct-12 20:56:09

thats not fair. brendan shd have won :/

flippinada Tue 16-Oct-12 20:56:12

Wow! Well done John.

Ooooooooooooo!!!!!!!

coffeeinbed Tue 16-Oct-12 20:56:23

Awww!
That's good.

trumpton Tue 16-Oct-12 20:56:27

Yea! Well done John !!!

Jux Tue 16-Oct-12 20:56:50

Well done, John! Nice one. (So now he has to being us each one of those cakes.)

Bunbaker Tue 16-Oct-12 20:57:46

sad. What am I going to watch on Tuesday evenings now?

IdaBlankenship Tue 16-Oct-12 20:58:02

I didn't think the judges wanted Brendan to win.. Good on John, he deserved it (altho James was my fave)

marshmallowpies Tue 16-Oct-12 20:58:10

Wow. Was not expecting that!

I'm afraid Brendan lost it for me for just wanting it TOO much. I always veer towards the underdog.

<weeps>

Let's all not be so difficult for our kids to please, eh? Sob.

Jux Tue 16-Oct-12 20:59:54

Oh he got a 1st, too! Doubly well done, John.

mynameis Tue 16-Oct-12 21:00:08

Excellent well done John grin

jaffacakehips Tue 16-Oct-12 21:00:15

Well done John and getting a 1st too! Clever boy!

ShipwreckedAndComatose Tue 16-Oct-12 21:00:21

Getting a first in Law AND winning GReat British Bakeoff!!

Bunbaker Tue 16-Oct-12 21:00:27

Glad John isn't going to become a crooked lawyer.

ILovePonyo Tue 16-Oct-12 21:00:49

Aww smile well done John smile

AND he got a first in his degree shock

Totobear Tue 16-Oct-12 21:00:53

Gosh, really thought it would be Brendan!

hugoagogo Tue 16-Oct-12 21:01:01

Why are my eyes leaking? confused

MrsjREwing Tue 16-Oct-12 21:01:02

What mag is Danny writing for?

I think Brendan should have won.

Is anyone applying for next year?

tadleylass Tue 16-Oct-12 21:03:39

wander were sarah jane and cathryn's market stall is and do they sell scarves

TheSandstoneCat Tue 16-Oct-12 21:04:10

John was definitely the man on the night ..... but over the series??

outtolunchagain Tue 16-Oct-12 21:05:16

Yay I had a feeling John would come through to win . Really hope he gets to do his patisserie course.

BeardofZeus Tue 16-Oct-12 21:07:01

Heaven and Hell Cake blimey! This really is a competition winning cake!

VikingVagineGhoulnamStyle Tue 16-Oct-12 21:07:15

Brendan was robbed!!!

John obviously slept with Mary or Paul, or both

outtolunchagain Tue 16-Oct-12 21:07:30

I think Brendan lost it because he always did badly in the technical bakes , he needed to practice stuff first, James just had a mare of a weekend and John pulled it off when the chips were down

wintera Tue 16-Oct-12 21:07:52

John's future looks bright! A first in his law degree and training in Paris hopefully. So he always has the law thing to fall back on. Good lad!

Shame about James but I really didn't think it was fair to bake five different cakes to be honest. John's cake was gorgeous! I felt sorry for Brendan as he was very consistent but I think what let him down were the technical bakes. He seemed to struggle with those.

PenguinBear Tue 16-Oct-12 21:09:15

So happy to see the update from everyone, especially Sarah-Jane and Cathryn, it actually made me well up, not sure why. I want to know where they are and visit grin

wintera Tue 16-Oct-12 21:10:12

I want to make that heaven and hell cake seriously. It looked fabulous!

CockyPants Tue 16-Oct-12 21:11:27

Anyone else having a weep?

cocolepew Tue 16-Oct-12 21:13:22

Brendan was robbed.

FoxtrotFoxtrotScarier Tue 16-Oct-12 21:13:48

Oh FFS. John wasn't the best baker over the series. How can he have won. Brendan, who was by far the most consistent - and therefore the best, was robbed.

I won't watch it next year of course am lying but am so cross for Brendan

dementedma Tue 16-Oct-12 21:15:27

Yay, have been supporting john for weeks now. He pulled it off on the day. Although feel a wee bit sorry for Brendan as he was very consistent. Hope Johns family are a bit more proud of him now!

PenguinBear Tue 16-Oct-12 21:16:41

Me Cocky pants grin

dementedma Tue 16-Oct-12 21:16:48

Yay, have been supporting john for weeks now. He pulled it off on the day. Although feel a wee bit sorry for Brendan as he was very consistent. Hope Johns family are a bit more proud of him now!

flippinada Tue 16-Oct-12 21:16:52

I'm pleased for John but really disappointed for Brendan, cos he was my fave.

I think, honestly, John was more TV friendly and that's why he won.

flibbertigibbert Tue 16-Oct-12 21:17:20

cockypants - not just you! I thought I was being a complete weirdo for getting so emotional.

So sad that it's over! And I would love to go to French pastry school envy

NirvanahCrane Tue 16-Oct-12 21:17:21

I LOVE JOHN!!!

Up until a couple of episodes ago, I wanted James to win. Then I switched allegeance (?) to John. Brendan has just got such a smug air about him and James is very 'fly-by-the-seat-of-his-pants'. I wouldn't want him treating me if I was ill....just trying things he had never tried before and hoping for the best.....

John is beautiful and I hope he is on the road to being a brilliant patissierre!

wintera Tue 16-Oct-12 21:17:46

I think john benefitted from the fact that there wasn't as much pressure on him. It looked like it was going to be between James and Brendan so John had nothing to lose. James really seemed to struggle with the pressure!

Calyx Tue 16-Oct-12 21:18:58

I'm happy it was lovely John! And I liked James saying he felt everyone was a winner. First in Law, won the bake off, off to Pareeee to train - I want to hug him!

I want to visit the girls' market stall, I was well pleased to see that too!

Night all smile

flippinada Tue 16-Oct-12 21:21:31

That's true wintera everyone was saying it would be between Brendan and James.

Everyone being me and the people I talk to bore stupid about GBBO grin

CockyPants Tue 16-Oct-12 21:30:21

Brendan's quiet emotion set me off.

strictlycaballine Tue 16-Oct-12 21:31:13

Ok so how do you ice a fondant fancy properly? Dipping or thickening icing and piping from on high?

Brendan woz robbed. John wasn't at all consistent throughout series (and was a bit of an Eeyore to boot - but not in a good way) and James tried to wing it and it didn't come off this time sadly.

evilwem Tue 16-Oct-12 21:31:15

I think John won because he had more of a story over the series. You could tell he'd won from the grin on Sue's face as they were announcing it, they've clearly got on really well. I though he was great, very funny smile

ArthurShappey Tue 16-Oct-12 21:31:50

I think we will have to ask mumsnet to sign up Sarah-Jane and Cathryn to do mumsnet academy! They seem like fun.

I was rooting for James, yet expecting Brendan, very, very surprised John won. But as he is the one who actually wants to become a baker and is off to study patisserie, it was a very nice result!

jammic Tue 16-Oct-12 21:33:06

Woohoo! John won! <smug alert> told you so! I think technically his showstopper was more impressive than Brendan's. I definitely did have a few moments where I wanted brendan to win <as I wondered whether I could fix family rifts with cake...>. But well done john and let us all remember to be proud of our kids and let them make their own decisions whether johns family are cowbags or were victims of bad editing.

lirael Tue 16-Oct-12 21:33:47

Another one here who thinks Brendan was robbed. Head and shoulders above the others throughout the series, despite the odd glitch - but John had far more glitches. John younger, prettier, more camera-friendly, better back- stories: the cut finger, the insecurities - gah! Older people never win shows like these ( someone will come on now and list ten people who have...)

lirael Tue 16-Oct-12 21:35:20

Yes - an Eeyore - exactly!

evilwem Tue 16-Oct-12 21:39:56

wannabedomesticgoddess You asked if anyone was going to apply for next series - I got all carried away after making my plaited loaf and briefly considered it, but then saw how stressed they all looked in the opening shots of tonight's show and changed my mind!

getagoldtoof Tue 16-Oct-12 21:42:37

Whoop whoo - I am so happy for John. What a guy. Brendan was skillfull, but personally, I am not keen on his demeanour. But John, he was just so hungry for it. I am so pleased for him.

coffeeinbed Tue 16-Oct-12 21:47:29

I'd love to try it.
But 25 French Fancies would finish me off.
Or the teacakes.

coffeeinbed Tue 16-Oct-12 21:48:19

Or you lot talking about me.

ArthurShappey Tue 16-Oct-12 21:49:31

Danny's blog post prior to the final made interesting reading... I hope it doesn't go all international and x-factor styley.

UntamedShrew Tue 16-Oct-12 21:50:21

I cried when John won and then again when he got a first class degree blush

Really must go to bed now!

bedmonster Tue 16-Oct-12 21:51:18

Brendan was so full of himself, marking himself a 10 out of 10 as he could subtract nothing! Pride comes before a fall!

So glad John won, my eyes weeped a little, I think Brendans trouble was that his designs were stuck in the 70s, he wasnt very modern. Reminded me of Matgerette Patten.

HoldMeCloserTonyDanza Tue 16-Oct-12 22:00:55

That was great. They ARE all winners!

Kumbayaaaaa my Lord, Kumbayaaaaaa!!!

ArthurShappey Tue 16-Oct-12 22:01:23

Here you go, the application form alone puts me off!

yesbutnobut Tue 16-Oct-12 22:05:22

I agree that Brendan was too 'retro' - the judges liked the younger guys' 'modern twist'. I was so shocked that John won that I missed what the prize is. I think it was just a glass cake stand? In that case I love this show even more than ever (though of course being a contestant on it opens doors).

We're going to really miss GBBO! What with Paul O"Grady's Battersea dogs home programme finishing yesterday and now this, midweek telly has taken a downturn!

lirael Tue 16-Oct-12 22:05:35

But it's supposed to be about baking, not personality! Agree about the datedness - but I would call it 'classic'

PelvicFloorClenchReminder Tue 16-Oct-12 22:06:21

shock - really wasn't expecting that, but so happy!

I had a sudden attack of hayfever at the end when John said he'd finally been able to do something to please his mother. Must have been some stray pollen hiding in the sofa made its way to my eyes.

Go John!!

I might leave the application form open on the PC and frighten DH to death.

The form reminds me - Love Productions are the production company, Paul Hollywood was talking last weekend (lit fest) about checking into hotels with Mary. Great British Bake Off? No reservations under that name sir. BBC? No ... Love Productions? Ah, here it is, sir, madam ... <<funny look>>

grin

Pixiepie Tue 16-Oct-12 22:12:45

I couldnt believe that John won!!! I didnt really like him but the title should have gone to Brendan. He was definetly very skilled at baking. I was shocked!

NewGirlInTown Tue 16-Oct-12 22:16:24

Brendan should have won, far better standard all through the competition. Remember John was in danger of being booted out the week he cut his finger.

Agree with all the posters up thread who say that John won because of his PR friendly possibilities, "oooh look baking is all young and trendy"!
I think Paul and Mary WANTED to give it to James, but his five cake cake was such a disaster they could not, so John was the anti-Brendan.

grin evilwem

It does look really stressful. I would love to apply but Im nowhere near good enough!

Pixiepie Tue 16-Oct-12 22:23:42

Agree totally with newgirlintown! He definetly was the anti-brendan. Its true, he was doing sooooo rubbish in previous bake offs! Totally unfair. Saying that..i do think Brendan thought he had it in 'the bag' and was slightly smug.

So pleased, I really wanted John to win and he deserved it on the night. Only just watched it as I wanted to watch in peace sfter getting the DCs to bed, it was worth the wait.

seeker Tue 16-Oct-12 22:41:51

Feel bereft- what are we going to watch now??????????? sad

wintera Tue 16-Oct-12 22:44:49

Funny how Paul said when it came to the deliberations he and Mary said the same name straight away. Sounded to me like it was clear to them both right away that John was the winner. His bakes must have had the edge taste wise.

I'm still really shocked about James though. Seriously, what the hell happened to him at all? It was very weird!

triplets Tue 16-Oct-12 22:54:37

I was also very surprised, sort of new James was not going to get it, too many errors on the night. Brendan as everyone has said has been sooooo consistant through out the ten weeks, very few let downs. I am surprised but do wonder if theres an element of giving the accolade to someone younger for them to maybe go on and make a career out of it? Oh..........what will we watch now..................feel bereft!

James just got too ambitious didn't he? Then really rattled himself by dropping that mix. Should have concentrated on one fabulous cake instead of five average ones.

That chocolate cake of John's did look absolutely divine.

I do think as far as Brendan goes it was exactly what Paul said, he was great when he could practise but didn't cope with the technical challenges. Plus everything looked like it came out of Good Housekeeping 1975 Edition.

seeker I think there's a Christmas special ... and Paul has some stuff coming up early next year, one thing may be with Mary Berry. Not sure, he was talking at an afternoon tea and I was too busy stuffing scones in my face to listen properly.

triplets Tue 16-Oct-12 23:00:12

Did read in the Mail today that Paul Hollywood is starting a new series of his own on bread. I bought his book a few weeks ago and I must say its excellent, I have been baking for over 30 years and I learnt a few things! I didn`t realize that he also only lives about 15 miles from me and sells his bread in Sandwich (thats not a pun) about 5 miles away!

mumzy Tue 16-Oct-12 23:00:15

I'm really shocked John won as Paul and Mary said he was in danger of being booted off after his poor performance last week. I think Brendan should have won and I thought James should be in second place as he is a far more interesting baker than John. I can only surmise that the show wanted a cliffhanger of a final.

seeker Tue 16-Oct-12 23:01:26

Can you imagine Jsmes taking out your appendix "well, I just think that it would be perfectly possible to reach it through the nose......."

GoldenSeptember Tue 16-Oct-12 23:03:04

So comforted to come on here and read that DP and I are not the only ones to think that Brendan was robbed!

Justice for Brendan... Crown the bakeoff one! grin

seeker Tue 16-Oct-12 23:09:56

I change horses to Brendan tonight- the dcs and dp were John loyalists throughout- apart from dd, whose hormones made her briefly support James!

wintera Tue 16-Oct-12 23:15:45

I have to disagree, I don't think James deserved to either win it, or come second after his performance in the finale. To be honest, I was a bit annoyed that he made five cakes. It just didn't seem fair to me at all that he made those five separate cakes and I was glad when Paul told him off for it.

Although I liked John and was pleased he won it, if anyone deserved it, it was definitely Brendan. I know he's not as popular but he was consistently good throughout but as I've said before, I think the technical bakes let him down. John just managed to come through and have a particularly good week and it made all the difference in the end. His showstopper cake at the end was a stunner! Very much like his gingerbread collosseum the other week.

Mind you, I can imagine that winning the title will do him no favours whatsoever if and when he goes to study in France! They'll make mincemeat out of him over there!

LetUsPrey Tue 16-Oct-12 23:17:00

Just catching up now. I feel so so sorry for Jamessad. That last showstopper just didn't quite work. John seemed so much calmer in the final than he has been in previous weeks. Brendan was consistent over the series, but I felt some of his creations lacked a little bit of "it".

Pleased for John. Obviously wanted James to win but it just didn't happen for him in the final. I'm willing to help cheer him up though grin

squoosh Tue 16-Oct-12 23:25:17

I HAVE NO WORDS TO EXPRESS HOW I FEEL!

HoldMeCloserTonyDanza Tue 16-Oct-12 23:29:41

Embrace the ALL CAPS, squoosh. They say more than simple words ever can.

hopingtodrive Wed 17-Oct-12 00:26:45

based on merit brendan was way above james and should have won. there seems to be quite a bit of favoritism which isnt fair IMO. so if the judges dnt like you, you cant win, no matter how good u r.. hmmmm

squoosh Wed 17-Oct-12 00:30:12

DOWN WITH THIS SORT OF THING

James' chickens came home to roost last night . You can't wing a final. The showstopper was badly planned and poorly constructed. I think John just pulled it out of the bag last night. Of the the three cakes, his was a showstopper. I bet it tasted fab too smile

wintera Wed 17-Oct-12 07:09:23

I don't think the judges disliked Brendan at all. Mary in particular always seemed very fond of him I thought.

wintera Wed 17-Oct-12 07:18:57
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riverboat Wed 17-Oct-12 07:54:57

I love John, his final cake was clearly the best and I'm really happy for him that he won. But I do feel bad for Brendan, and kind of like he was robbed! John had quite a few duff bakes over the series, many more than Brendan. I was trying to think back to the technicals in light of the judges impication that Brendan excels mainly because he practices his set recipes so much, but my recollection is that Brendan tended to do OK in technicals and even won one or two? Maybe my memory is deceiving me.

I was so shocked and touched by Brendan, normally as cool as a cucumber, letting his emotions get to him and fighting back the tears in that on camera interview. So touching.

Its a shame for James that he had his worst ever week at the worst possible moment. There was no way he could have fairly won in the end.

evilwem Wed 17-Oct-12 08:14:48

Danny's blog post linked further back on the thread is very interesting. I understand that the programme makers are only interested in creating entertainment, but it does lead to these one dimensional characters, and allows people to be critical based on very leading editing.

The amount of hate I've seen expressed is disturbing, elsewhere really, not here so much. How do people manage to ignore the fact that these are real people just trying to do their best?

wintera Wed 17-Oct-12 08:23:09

Riverboat - I agree with you I have to say. Love John and he was the best this week no doubt but I also feel bad for Brendan!

tiggytape Wed 17-Oct-12 08:26:20

Brendan was totally robbed (and James for that matter - he should have been second choice. Even his 5 cake madness wasn't as bad as some of John's mistakes in previous weeks).

I think the judges must have felt it too which is why they justified their decision by saying John had edged it with his 'modern twist' and that when he nailed it he really nailed it (ignoring the fact that when he didn't, he was the worst of the three).

Week after week Brendan did really well on flavours and his presentation was stunning. John had some real shockers over the weeks and only missed being kicked out because of his glove-of-blood week.

I got the impression Paul and Mary didn't warm to Brendan so much. I liked his attitude of doing everything 100% and really caring about it but I think this came across unfairly as a little smug when really he was just more focused and quieter perhaps.

QuickLookBusy Wed 17-Oct-12 08:31:29

Brendon was robbed!

Yes, John's last cake was a show stopper but surely the result shouldn't have been based mainly on that.
I feel a bit let down by Paul and Mary and I never thought I'd say that.sad

Miggsie Wed 17-Oct-12 08:31:34

I think they gave it to John as he has talent and if he works as hard as Brendan has over the years he will have flair, whereas Brendan is someone with a bit of talent who has practised so much his stuff is really reliable and good, but he doesn't have flair.

I think that showed on his gingerbread house - very good production values but limited imagination.

I also think John needed it to get away from his really critical family - he was so eager to please them, I felt sorry for him, as if he never gets praise at all.

ppeatfruit Wed 17-Oct-12 08:31:43

HOORAY for John (just interviewed on Chris Evans) but I reckon it was his beautiful sausage what done it !!! grin

Bunbaker Wed 17-Oct-12 08:32:40

I think you summed it up pretty well tiggy. Brendan has been more consistent over the weeks than John and he obviously wanted to win so much.

The idea behind his show stopper made me wonder if there is a back story about family strife, given his Irish upbringing and his current lifestyle.

QuickLookBusy Wed 17-Oct-12 08:35:55

Miggsie "Brendon doesn't have flair"

Did you see his SWAN petite fours????

Bluegrass Wed 17-Oct-12 08:46:52

I feel like it would have made a mockery of three people earning a place in a final if they were going to be judged on all their past performances. On that basis John might as well have stayed at home. Instead the slate was wiped clean and they were left with one programme to beat the others.

On that basis James had a shocker and was clearly out. John and Brendan were level pegging after the first two bakes, but John had by far the better looking, more creative cake, which also tasted really good. I think it did all come down to that one cake.

I guess the people who think Brendan was robbed wanted it to be judged on coursework, not on an all or nothing final exam!

tiggytape Wed 17-Oct-12 08:47:45

Brendan has tons of flair. He may practice carefully rather than pretending inspiration hit him on the day, but his presentation was gorgeous.

Bunbaker - I thought that too.

I always liked that they judged on pure talent rather than who wanted to win the most or who was the best face of the show. It didn't seem quite like that last night. John seemed lovely but he really wasn't the best baker overall.

QuickLookBusy Wed 17-Oct-12 08:50:10

But the judges did talk about previous weeks last night so they were taking them into consideration.

Miggsie Wed 17-Oct-12 08:50:30

Swan petit fours are fairly standard stuff for a swanky occasion - I have the recipe in a book - they are not too hard, I've done them. My mother did Cordon Bleu back in the 70's so I recognise a lot of Brendan's stuff from there.

He did them incredibly well - his execution is fantastic, but he does need his instructions and practise.

He also doesn't add to the recipes, I think that is what Paul and Mary picked up on. He would always follow a recipe, not experiment and add things or add his own touch.
Everything he did he did very well, but he wasn't someone who could create recipes or generate new ideas, that is the difference. Skill without imagination, whereas John had imagination and was working on his skills.

diddl Wed 17-Oct-12 09:02:30

Even if it only came down to last night´s cakes, I preferred the look of Brendon´s.

And the judges thought the taste/texture was great-didn´t they?-and he still didn´t win!

What did they say about the taste/texture of John´s cake?

I don´t think they preferred it, did they?

Seems a bit ridiculous to me that nothing else counted.

Taffeta Wed 17-Oct-12 09:07:41

I am so pleased John won. He's the one that will make a career of it, and the "finally done something to please my mother" was just SO sad.

God forbid I ever do that to my children.

losingtrust Wed 17-Oct-12 09:12:02

I thought John deserved to win last night and really pleased for him. His cake was by far the best and very glad that he also got a first in his degree. How good is that bloke. I didn't hear the comment about pleasing his mother though that is really sad. He really is perfect partner material, clever and a great baker!

Jins Wed 17-Oct-12 09:23:15

Yay. Doing the happy dance here!

That heaven and hell cake was beautiful. Streets ahead of the others.

Abitwobblynow Wed 17-Oct-12 09:24:12

who won the LAST bake off? I am watching it on cable, Jasminder had just been let go, and then I went travelling...

Please someone put me out of my misery! Was it the yummy mummy? The feisty girl who never went to uni, or was it the bloke?

Bluegrass Wed 17-Oct-12 09:27:31

Diddl - they were very complementary about the flavours of John's cake, saying that it was hard to do a chocolate version well, and the combination with the lemon worked well. I'm sure one of them also said that he was pulling out all the stops in terms of showing off lots of different techniques which may have earned him extra brownie points.

I really thought Brendan's was uninspiring last night, it just looked like a spongy cake on top of another spongy cake with some gingerbread men around the base. The slice looked really unwieldy on the plate as well, no elegance! I think he had produced far better looking cakes in other rounds, it just seemed a bit pedestrian in the end (albeit clearly very well baked and very tasty).

ppeatfruit Wed 17-Oct-12 09:35:28

Brendon's petit fours are the sort of thing that Fanny Craddock shock was dong in the 60s. John deserved to win on the basis of last night's show he was best, I'm glad smile and he didn't have an "i'm entitled" bone in his body.

Mary thought his sausage was beautiful as well grin

diddl Wed 17-Oct-12 09:43:15

"it just looked like a spongy cake on top of another spongy cake"

And for me, John´s just looked like a choccy cake with some little cakes on top.

I thought that Brendon was the most consistent.

Still, he wasn´t young with a "sob story".

Telesales650 Wed 17-Oct-12 09:48:10

Dont jest too much my Dr was telling me they do a operation now taking the appendix out through the mouth!euk! I replied how disgusting!

ppeatfruit Wed 17-Oct-12 09:51:43

But his chocolate topping was like a mirror created with a low heat hair dryer grin He was on Radio 2 talking about it. More creative than Brendan (i didn't like the voyueristic way the camera lingered over poor Brendon's upset though what was that about?).

TellMeLater Wed 17-Oct-12 09:56:24

I found Brendan a total irritation to watch and listen to. His bakes were stuck in the 70's, I hated his lack of modesty....so I was in the anti Brendan camp. I think James deserved to win - he took risks, his bakes were interesting and creative and I was gutted for him that his Finals performance was poor.

wintera Wed 17-Oct-12 10:03:41

Did anyone else spot the bird house in the background of Brendan's garden when he was talking at home?

wintera Wed 17-Oct-12 10:07:11

I've just watched it again. I think Paul was very disappointed with James. I think it was James's for the taking if he just hadn't ballsed everything up in the final, and I think Paul's face reflected that at the end when he presented those five cakes.

hiviolet Wed 17-Oct-12 10:08:31

So glad John won, he was one of my favourite personalities from the start, although I agree he hasn't been the best or most consistent. Plus he's the only one who actually wants to make a career out of baking, so this will be an amazing springboard for him.

Felt sorry for the others. Brendan has been so consistently good and James is so creative, but he royally buggered it up didn't he? Get the impression he was trying to wow with quantity over quality; they were SO badly iced!

hiviolet Wed 17-Oct-12 10:09:35

wintera Brendan did say his gingerbread bird house was modelled on the one in his garden grin

wintera Wed 17-Oct-12 10:13:34

I thought he did but when I saw it in his garden I couldn't help but chuckle. It looked exactly the same too!

ppeatfruit Wed 17-Oct-12 10:16:25

hiviolet I agree but don't understand why he has to 'save up' for the patisserie course; he's won FFS you'd think they could give him some money towards his course or even pay for all of it!! What DID he win BTW?

CaseyShraeger Wed 17-Oct-12 10:18:09

Looking at the technical challenge last night, John didn't win because he tried to do something different (varying the size of the cakes) and didn't quite pull it off. Brendan lost because he just didn't do it very well. And John's pithivier was better cooked than Brendan's (browned round the edges, which is good, while Brendan's had just tipped over into slightly burned around the edges (in spite of his "10 out of 10" comment)).

But I love that we're all discussing who should have won in voices of authority when none of us has tasted a single mouthful of any one of the bakes. You can edit anything together to make it look closer than it is and it's obvious that the producers would want to show John and Brendan's final showstoppers looking roughly equal going into the final judging as otherwise there'd have been no suspense. Either you trust the judges to know what they liked eating most or you don't.

CaseyShraeger Wed 17-Oct-12 10:18:59

I think he just won the glass cake stand.

zarabootoo Wed 17-Oct-12 10:21:51

I'm really disappointed with the result sad

James was my fave, didn't like Brendan and was a bit meh about John.

James has won the technical challenge for the last four, five weeks? And he has been star baker three times. Obviously though there's no denying he wasn't exactly on top form last night.

As much as I didn't warm to him I think Brendan should have won.

squoosh Wed 17-Oct-12 10:24:32

If the producers are watching here's an idea for next year's show:

Day 1)
Assemble the 10 contestants. Get them all to bake their best cake and THEN PICK THE WINNER because the whole 2 month 'competition' is obviously irrelevant.

But hey at least John had a 'journey' and 'made his Mum proud' and was 'dead nice', bleurgh. Shame he wasn't the best baker.

How very X Factor.

ppeatfruit Wed 17-Oct-12 10:24:42

Agree Casey about the tasting that 's what P.H. said on Radio 2 yesterday. Didn't last year's winner win more than a glass cake stand?

diddl Wed 17-Oct-12 10:56:20

Well if it was supposed to be a "showstopper"-how did John´s cake even come close to that?

But yeah, John wants a career from it, unsupportive mum, made her proud, cried...

CaseyShraeger Wed 17-Oct-12 11:00:12

It was a technically more demanding cake than Brendan's, more imaginative, looked good and allegedly tasted good. But of course none of those could be the reason he won. It must be down to the sob story hmm.

squoosh Wed 17-Oct-12 11:04:16

John had more failures that successes and should have been out weeks ago. His cake was the best on the day but that does not warrant his winning.

What a joke.

Bluegrass Wed 17-Oct-12 11:04:42

Squoosh - you might as well say there is no point in University Challenge holding a final, they could just add up all the points from the rounds and whoever got the most right over the series wins. Only problem is that makes for boring tv! An all or nothing final with the chance of an outsider beating the favourite with a better performance on the day makes for more interesting watching.

diddl Wed 17-Oct-12 11:04:54

But didn´t look like a "showstopper"??

imo, of course.

squoosh Wed 17-Oct-12 11:06:52

To be honest I didn't think any of the three cakes were of a standard worthy of the final.

Interesting to see James nailing his political colours to the cake, especially coming the day after Cameron and Salmond signed the referendum deal. Salmond will be peeved.

squoosh Wed 17-Oct-12 11:08:01

An all or nothing final with the chance of an outsider beating the favourite with a better performance on the day makes for more interesting watching.

Beating? That's the point I didn't think he beat anyone.

Jins Wed 17-Oct-12 11:08:03

If I'd ordered a 'showstopper' cake for a party the only one I would have been happy with was John's.

Brendan's was an ugly looking thing. No doubt it tasted wonderful

squoosh Wed 17-Oct-12 11:08:49

All three were more suited as doorstoppers than showstoppers.

Bluegrass Wed 17-Oct-12 11:10:49

The judges thought he did though! Only they know how the cakes tasted, but on visual I thought john's was head and shoulders above the others and far more creative. That is just personal taste though.

Jins Wed 17-Oct-12 11:14:17

The consistent performer has never won GBBO. They are looking for flair, imagination and artistry.

James or John had both. Brendan not so much

squoosh Wed 17-Oct-12 11:15:04

I definitely can't watch this year, I'll probably implode if the same thing happens again!

John, lovely guy, not a worthy winner.

squoosh Wed 17-Oct-12 11:15:19

next year

Jins Wed 17-Oct-12 11:16:24

Well if Brendan had won it probably would have been my last GBBO so it all evens out smile

I'd have been happy for him to leave in week 2 or 3.

squoosh Wed 17-Oct-12 11:16:39

Oh and as for James . . . . . . . .

Words fail me, what a mess he made. PH will not be pleased!

Yay! Well, I'm pleased John won, that cake was amazing and last week's was fab too (with the hearts). I still luff James. Brendan was too smug and immodest. I loved hearing what all the contestants were up to after GBB. I love that John is training to be a patissier. Apols if spelt that wrong.

squoosh Wed 17-Oct-12 11:18:00

Yes, lots of people disliked Brendan, his personality didn't endear him to everyone. I admired his talent.

outtolunchagain Wed 17-Oct-12 11:18:14

I agree that it was James' for the taking and he messed upsadThe judges pointed out several times that Brendan was not good in the technical bakes and I do think this is what lost it for him .If you go back through the weeks he was pretty poor from the start on anything that he hadn't been able to prepare beforehand.In the end I did feel sad for him though he paid a lovely tribute to his partner.

squoosh Wed 17-Oct-12 11:19:15

Immodesty, it's just not the done thing in England.

ppeatfruit Wed 17-Oct-12 11:28:04

Also squoosh don't forget John's Pithiviers it was the best, the sausage was beautiful! His french fancies were too small though!

CaseyShraeger Wed 17-Oct-12 11:30:48

I didn't have an issue with Brendan's personality, but overall he seemed to be a dedicated and gifted baker but without a real instinct for it (hence his issues with the technical challenges). James on the other had oodles of flair and instinct but just winged it a bit too much and in the final week it came crashing down around him (quite literally in the case of that cake). John was more of a blend of hard work and flair and so closer to the complete package.

diddl Wed 17-Oct-12 11:31:02

I think for me the coating on the choc cake just looked revolting.

Brendon´s cake-light, fluffy sponge with berries-lovely!

bluebird68 Wed 17-Oct-12 11:31:13

i think some people are being mean about Brendan, yes he comes across as a bit arrogant but sounds like he had a rough childhood and so has had to put up a facade and protection over the years.

I really thought it was between Brendan and James so was completely surprised to see last night online that John won- i don't have a tv so had to wait for internet catch up today to watch it. Not sure if he was the worthy winner overall. I think what james said was right they are all winners. John at least is the one who wants to make a career from it so if it gives him a boost then i'm happy with that result. I think he probably edged it slightly on the final, James was let down by his showstopper which was not following the brief and they said was dry. John definitely has that flair for making things look very high standard and also be contemporary. Can completely see him doing very well as a patissier.

Can see some sort of collaboration between James and Heston at some point and Brendan has been great to show that older people still have lots to offer- his knowledge was amazing.

NoNameNeverMind Wed 17-Oct-12 11:34:38

Brendan could clearly bake but his design and faithful reproduction were straight out of the early 70's and when out of his depth, he didn't do well. In that sense he had skills (and perhaps excellent skills compared to John) but that's not the whole package. He also needed creativity and a spark of imagination, and we never saw that.

Of course it didn't help that he comes across as so entitled to win - that may be editing, but what some of us heard came from his own mouth, and his concerned glances as to how everyone else was doing in comparison with him were also off-putting.

On the final John clearly cooked best, and that has to count in the judges' final assessment.

The "emotional journeys" were there for us viewers but they would not have had an influence on the judges.

squoosh Wed 17-Oct-12 11:34:39

I seriously do not recognise this John that people are describing. Maybe I've been watching a different show for the past few weeks.

I wonder whether the decision about who wins comes down solely to Mary and Paul or if the producers also have a say. Maybe as John is the only one who wants to become a professional baker that swung it for him. Creates more of a storyline arc. 'Yes you shall go to the ball Cordon Bleu cookery school'

ppeatfruit Wed 17-Oct-12 11:36:48

diddl In Fr. a lot of the choc. cakes have a mirrored finish it's trendy something Brendan doesn't 'get'. His baking was too conventional IMO.

Jins Wed 17-Oct-12 11:40:45

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/10/16/article-2218692-1588F2B7000005DC-528_634x439.jpg Brendan's cake]]

It's a weird looking thing

Jins Wed 17-Oct-12 11:41:15
riverboat Wed 17-Oct-12 11:41:51

Did Brendan really do so badly on the technical bakes? My recollection is that he was near the bottom in one or two, but also did quite a few of them very well...because of his 'incredible knowledge' which is constantly referenced.

I guess I can justify John winning if you take into account all the extra decades of practice Brendan has had. I still think Brendan was generally better than John, but maybe the gap wasn't wide enough when you take into account their ages, and John just had more natural talent.

The bicycle shaped choux bun thing was where James went off the boil for me, too try hard, didn't look like an attractive thing to eat no matter how well it was executed. Also the derelict barn. The five cakes fiasco wasn't much of a surprise after those.

Brendan's bakes were very much accomplished amateur, where John pulled off one or two really professional ones (coliseum, heaven and hell).

tiggytape Wed 17-Oct-12 11:45:02

...but John really didn't have the skills Brendan has or the spark James has. For me, being a bit purist about it I think the best and most skillful baker should have won (Brendan) but assuming being able to combine skill with a creative edge is the key, then it was James not John who showed this throughout. James was more the complete package in that sense.
John's specilaism seemed to be narrowly avoiding getting voted off for weeks and then edging ahead with a creative cake at the last minute. That doesn't merit being the overall winner. In fact I even think Danny should have been ahead of John.

squoosh Wed 17-Oct-12 11:47:21

I agree wholeheartedly tiggytape, I'm sure Danny does too!

ppeatfruit Wed 17-Oct-12 11:53:19

Yeah but poor James Fxxckxx up the final and they were going by the final he even had a soggy bottom on his Pithiviers shock

CaseyShraeger Wed 17-Oct-12 11:55:00

I think James would have won if he hadn't messed up every single challenge in the final (OK, he "won" the technical challenge, but in a "well, yours isn't quite as bad as the others" way). But he over-reached himself and left John as the "flair" candidate in the flair vs. skill face-off.

I read a piece by Edd Kimber recently where he said that a big part of succeeding on the series once you're past the first couple of weeks is knowing and cooking for Paul and Mary's individual likes and quirks. I'd probably have preferred the taste of Brendan's cake to the taste of John's, if I'm honest, because I don't really like coconut and I'm not generally fussed about chocolate cakes. But neither of them were cooking for me; they were cooking for the judges they'd had nine previous weeks to get to know.

WhyTheBigGoldPaws Wed 17-Oct-12 11:59:28

I was really pleased for John but agree that he was lucky and both Brendan and James had been better throughout the series. That seems to be the way on GBBO though, it was the same last year with Jo. She had made some right royal cockups and IIRC narrowly avoided being booted out but managed to pull it off in the final over people who had been more consistently good overall.

plus3 Wed 17-Oct-12 12:08:50

Another one who agrees that James lost the final. I liked all three finalists - genuinely would have been happy for any of them to have won.

John was star baker on bread week - didn't PH say the winner is usually the one who does well with bread??

drjohnsonscat Wed 17-Oct-12 12:11:57

Gosh I thought Brendan created some amazing, beautiful things. That gingerbread house... I don't know how James got away with making his a derelict barn! And anyway, John should have won that week for the coliseum.

I liked John the best but I really thought Brendan should have won for most consistency and making the most beautiful things every week. I also didn't like the choux bicycle that James made. But somehow he seemed to get extra points for slightly duffed up creations.

Agree about "the journey" element to it. Did it really sway Mary and Paul that John had the most heartstrings-plucking back story? Hope not but it seemed that way.

BTW I am obsessed with Mary and Paul's blue eyes. Are they wearing contacts or is there a special filter on the camera? One week everyone (inc Danny) seemed to have amazing blue eyes.

Loved this programme - so much more interesting than masterchef. Better, more interesting judges. More ability for the viewer to judge (by the look) who is really skilled and who isn't . Also I love cakes - much more than pan-fried scallops with a samphire puree.

marshmallowpies Wed 17-Oct-12 12:12:18

I'm feeling a bit guilty about being anti-Brendan now, when you bear in mind his apparent 'arrogance' and keenness to win were perhaps all down to the way it was edited. Hmm.

And yes, James's choux bike was a mess. It may have been skilfully made but it didn't look like it would be nice to eat.

Just realised the bus I'm on is taking me past Patisserie Valerie. Damn you, GBBO.

squoosh Wed 17-Oct-12 12:14:53

Oh and I'm so glad Brendan has a lovely partner. Thought he was quite dry and funny, and good looking! I wonder if he has to make the tea and biscuits for when all the Buddhists come around for a chant.

Jins Wed 17-Oct-12 12:15:29

There's only so much you can do with editing. He did actually say those things.

They all must have been keen to win

Tailtwister Wed 17-Oct-12 12:18:39

I did feel that Brendan should have won. He was far more consistent and produced a lovely chiffon cake at the end. I do wonder if they considered the long term impact for the winner. John wanted to make a career of it and winning could really give him an advantage. The same cannot be said for James and Brendan.

I was surprised John won, but glad James didn't.

squoosh Wed 17-Oct-12 12:20:42

He did actually say those things

And why wouldn't he, he was confident in his abilities. False modesty is what makes me gag.

hiviolet Wed 17-Oct-12 12:27:36

Don't see what the big deal is about Brendan being honest. He knew his creations were good, he wanted to win and he said so. He strikes me as a straightforward kind of man.

I far prefer that to Cathryn's "oh I'm so rubbish I'm so rubbish... what do you MEAN you don't like it?" fake insecurity. I did warm to her eventually but I HATE people who fish for compliments like that.

Jins Wed 17-Oct-12 12:32:26

He was honest insofar as he saw things, yes. MB said he'd burnt his pithivier. I could see he'd burnt his pithivier.

What did he give himself? 10/10 grin

Anyway I'm happy - he didn't win

flippinada Wed 17-Oct-12 12:35:46

Really interesting reading what everyone thinks about this!

Obviously the one thing we can't do is 'taste' the stuff they make so maybe John's had the edge taste wise although personally, I'm not keen on over-rich chocolatey stuff so would have preferred Brendan's. It's not down to me though - obviously smile.

hiviolet - agree with the false modesty thing from Cathryn. Producing stuff that was obviously good and then flapping about how ooh isn't this awful, I've messed it up etc.

And the arguing.... I read something written by Edd Kimber and one of his top tips was don't argue with Paul. Remember when he didn't like her sponge puddings and she argued back and gave him such an evil look?

janesnowdon1 Wed 17-Oct-12 12:37:10

Hiviolent - I agree. I watched the series with my 3 teenage dd's and they all recognised the Catherine type and did not warm to her. They also thought she would be a scary mum if you displeased her.

We were all rooting for Brendan - he was so small and self contained and sweet. He just wanted to do really well - as they all did. We were shocked at John winning as others have said either he or Sarah Jane was going the week he fortuitously sliced his hand - I thought he was was uber competitive and that James "oh no.. I've just made it up"" was very false.

My DD's felt it was the same as school - the good looking popular kid triumphs over the consistent, hard worker when the teacher is judging.

John was on for (and got) a first in law- I don't see what is so sad about his backstory (that must have made his mum proud)

Gutted

squoosh Wed 17-Oct-12 12:39:05

I suppose John was lucky he was such a consistent performer . . . . oh, no, actually . . . . . . .

Jins Wed 17-Oct-12 12:44:21

Look at the previous winners. Neither of them were consistent. What they showed was flair, talent and originality.

Brendan has none of those. He's a very good baker. I'm sure we'd all be delighted to eat anything he made. Would we buy his books? Probably not. Marguerite Patten's done it all already.

If Danny couldn't win I was happy with either James or John. On the night John demonstrated a number of skills that just weren't shown by the others. I'm happy with the result

flippinada Wed 17-Oct-12 12:45:26

I was gutted for Brendan too.

I reckon John got it because of the media friendly thing too..(not that he isn't a very talented baker cos he wouldn't have won otherwise). He's good looking, engaging, also you can imagine him doing chat shows and promoting stuff and whatnot whereas Brendan probably wouldn't.

Also found myself being pleased James didn't win, which surprised me.

squoosh Wed 17-Oct-12 12:56:08

Brendan was indeed royally robbed.

He just wasn't young or pretty enough. I would definitely buy his book if he got the chance to publish one.

DyeInTheEar Wed 17-Oct-12 12:56:15

I really like Bredan <wonders what terrible personality traits I've missed that others have seen>

I thought he was a bit OCD and serious but I loved how much it meant to him and his 1970s designs. But John's total delight at wining was just blardy lovely. And I cried because I'm pregnant and crying at everything and I cried again when he said how pleased he'd made his mum but then I wondered if she was a tricky to please tiger mum and cried again

ppeatfruit Wed 17-Oct-12 13:06:47

Agree with Jins.

VolumeOfACone Wed 17-Oct-12 14:13:56

James clearly didn't care as much as the other two - a cake baked with love and passion is going to taste the best when you crank up the pressure. That's why John and Brendan had the edge in the final.
Really pleased - and surprised - John won though. I did feel sorry for Brendan, who I thought had it in the bag, but on the day I guess he was just pipped to the post.
John's pie thing had a better bake than Brendan's and his last cake was stunning. You have to judge it on the final, or what's the point having a final?!

Well done John!

Although I never warmed to Brendan, I do agree with the comments on Cathryn too, the whole 'little ole me', little voice type. I did like Danny and would have preferred to see her in the final than Brendan. I think sometimes John didn't have the confidence in himself, going back to his Mum thinking he should be a lawyer, not a baker, but when he was on it, he really was and was fab. I loved James and his experimentation, but John was better overall in the end. Brendan was good at baking like an old auntie who makes fab 70's cakes, but GBBO is more than that. We also have to remember that MB and PH are the experts and are going on taste and appearance, not 'stories'.

wintera Wed 17-Oct-12 16:04:21

Did anyone see John on the north west news? He said it is purely based on that weekend's work, the only time they consider past work is when Paul and Mary are in a deadlock and can't decide between people. John just had a particularly good week when it counted the most. And James had a particularly awful week. Paul and Mary said it came down to the showstopper in the end and John's just edged it.

I don't know why everyone seems so surprised that they judge it on that weekend's work, its been like that all the way through. That's why Ryan got star baker that week he made the key lime pie, that's why Cathryn went when she had that really crap week. If you think of it, she'd been pretty good up till then.

I totally understand the Brendan fans being pissed off on here as his work was consistently good, if anyone was robbed it was him. But I liked John, and if it was down to that week then he deserved it. There's no possible way James was robbed as his work in the finale was shocking! The icing on that five cake showstopper was awful.

And I think some of you are being a bit off saying John had a sob story, if anything Brendan had a much better sob story so I don't think that had owt to do with it at all!

Is everyone mad? John's showstopper looked a sight. What the hell (no pun intended) was it meant to be? Anyone can stick a couple of cupcakes on top of a big cake. It showed no imagination at all. It must have tasted bloody wonderful, that's all because it looked shocking and he was nearly out on his ear a few times.

Brendan Woz Robbed!

bebumba Wed 17-Oct-12 16:18:05

Really pleased that John won, I thought he had a great final. James obviously had a nightmare weekend and I thought that Brendans cake just looked messy. incidentally I loved Brendan until half way through the series when he just reminded me of Zippy from Rainbow ( older mners will know who I mean)and I couldn't get that image out of my head. Overall I thought it was a great series and can't wait for the next one.

wintera Wed 17-Oct-12 16:23:36

Surely if you are going to use that rationale then Brendan's was just a cake on top of a cake with a few gingerbread men round the side?

Personally I loved both John's and Brendan's showstoppers and I thought both looked fantastic. Taste wise I would prefer John's as I love chocolate cake, I love lemon cake, and I also love coconut! Although I am aware that most people hate coconut with a passion. That's why I might have a crack at John's heaven and hell cake as its everything I love about cake in one cake basically.

But Brendan's cake looked nice, it was well presented. John's cake looked a bit of a mess and I couldn't get the concept.

coffeeinbed Wed 17-Oct-12 16:29:17

I just don't see WTF anyone would stick gingerbread people on a cake.
In summer.
I get his story and family and whatnot, but it looked so wrong.
Mind you, cake looked lovely and utterly delicious once they sliced it.

squoosh Wed 17-Oct-12 16:31:07

None of the cakes thrilled me and I did think 'showstoppers? really?'

John's was stylish looking but I don't think the two parts looked as though they fitted. The coconut things just looked liked they'd been accidentally plonked there.

Brendan's needed to be bigger and more 'wow' but the flavours appealed to me so much more. Also the thing he propped it on was too small.

James' cakes . . . . . well I don't what to say. The spec was to make 'a' cake, I know it went vvvvv wrong but I was annoyed tht he decided to cook 5 cakes in the first place.

expatinscotland Wed 17-Oct-12 16:31:48

I think the right person won. Brendan was very good technically, but John took creative risks. They didn't always work out, but when they did, they did big time!

I'd have liked to have seen Danny in the final rather than James. James' flavours were good but his presentation was never very good, and not as good as Danny's, IMO.

Jins Wed 17-Oct-12 16:32:19

Loving the differing views grin

I thought Brendan's cake looked awful. Too tall, unbalanced and the sort of covering you see on a gateaux from Iceland.

squoosh Wed 17-Oct-12 16:34:45

They seemed more rapturous about the flavour of Brendan's.

wintera Wed 17-Oct-12 16:39:15

I'm probably going to get flamed for this but what the hell - if I didn't know any better I would think that James f**ked everything up on purpose. Surely nobody who got to the final could be so bad on the day when it counted? Seriously did you see his icing on those five cakes? It was awful and it had big gaps in it where you could see the cake through the icing. It was really strange how he was suddenly so Shit at everything when he's been star baker loads of times!

ppeatfruit Wed 17-Oct-12 16:40:28

Well danny's Big Ben offering was not exactly perfection, also her creme pat. was literally dripping out of her cake grin I liked danny too BTW but she wasn't quite up to it technically was she? I still agree with you jins smile

squoosh Wed 17-Oct-12 16:41:04

It did look a bit like a stall at a school cake sale.

Maybe his nerves finally kicked in.

squoosh Wed 17-Oct-12 16:41:59

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ppeatfruit Wed 17-Oct-12 16:52:12

Yes wintera you may have a point about James hmm

hiviolet Wed 17-Oct-12 16:52:46

Wintera - I very much doubt James screwed up in purpose. He has form when it comes to running out of time (admitted on Twitter that he would never have finished his petit fours without Sue assembling the brownie ones for him) and tbh he's always lacked finesse.

ppeatfruit Wed 17-Oct-12 16:55:42

He's not very organised I just remembered his cake falling off the stool grin

cocolepew Wed 17-Oct-12 16:58:52

I wondered about James throwing it too.

John was lucky, I think if he hadn't cut his hand that would have been the week he went.

wintera Wed 17-Oct-12 17:04:45

Even though I liked John more than Brendan personality wise, in the end, I'd have been happy for either one of them to win it. They were both so much more emotionally invested in it, and it was clear that both of them really wanted to win it too. I truly believe that if John's showstopper hadn't been so good then Brendan would have got it definitely.

I think John deserved it-his cake at the end was beautiful-classy and professional. Very french patisserie which is what he wanted. I am glad brendan didn't win-he was a tad arrogant about it along the way, sounding like he was giving some sort of masterclass sometimes.

James was just too cocky I think.

wintera Wed 17-Oct-12 17:19:40

I'll admit to being very jealous indeed of John's flatmate. When she said 'I sometimes get up for work and he's already made a lemon curd' I was particularly green eyed. I bloomin love lemon curd!

Jux Wed 17-Oct-12 17:22:36

Any other competition works the same way. Can you imagine Paxman on Uni Challenge saying "well, X Uni have been consistent through all the rounds, so even though they have been roundly trounced by Y Uni by 350 points to -15, we'll give the award to X"? I don't think so.

squoosh Wed 17-Oct-12 17:28:22

Yes, but on University Challenge you only progress through the rounds if you beat your opponent. In my opinion there were weeks when John was the weakest contestant and should have been knocked out. He should never have made the final.

wintera Wed 17-Oct-12 17:47:02

Yes but in the week's when John was poor, someone else was always much worse. That's the way it goes sometimes. Think about right at the beginning of the series. Remember Stuart the PE teacher? He was pretty crap over those first few weeks but someone else was always worse. People were asking on here - why is Stuart still in it? He was just plain lucky that someone always had a worse week until the week his luck ran out and he got the boot.

I agree that could have happened to John as well but when he was in danger he either managed to do something really good like the collosseum gingerbread or someone else had a worse week such as Cathryn or Danny. Surely that's what makes it all the more interesting? That its not so cut and dry. Makes it more exciting!

squoosh Wed 17-Oct-12 17:50:13

In the week John was due for the boot he cut his finger.

wintera Wed 17-Oct-12 17:59:48

Incidentally, if anyone is interested then they still have all the eps on BBC iplayer. And if you have virgin on demand then they are all there on tv catch up. Not like I'd be sad enough to watch it all over again or anything like that . . . No not at all wink

Oh goody, that was my next move. I love watching it from the start when we know who all the characters are smile

Jins Wed 17-Oct-12 18:18:07

squoosh you don't know that John would have gone in the week that he cut his finger. Sarah-Jane was looking vulnerable as well.

Remember the week that Ryan looked like a dead cert to go and then won star baker on the strength of his key lime pie.

We get that you wanted Brendan to win. On the day he just wasn't as good as John and that's how the competition works

squoosh Wed 17-Oct-12 19:02:00

So sorry that my opinions are irritating you Jins! You maintain John was a worthy winner, I maintain he wasn't. Disagreement, that's how the competition works.

Jins Wed 17-Oct-12 19:33:31

Not at all irritated, more amused to be honest, but the competition doesn't work on disagreement.

Bluegrass Wed 17-Oct-12 19:42:24

I'm not sure that "disagreement" is how the competition works! In the end we had two judges, the people who were actually there and tasting everything and they decided unanimously in favour of John. Seems a bit unsporting to question their decision just 'cos your horse didn't come in Squoosh!

wintera Wed 17-Oct-12 20:00:00

God the daily mail is so crap. One of their articles says Brendan was known as The Bakernator. Am pretty sure they called him The Brendanator one week, not Bakernator.

VikingVagineGhoulnamStyle Wed 17-Oct-12 20:01:26

Judging from their comments, I'd say John and Brendan did as well as each other in the final.

I can't help but think that their reasoning was somewhere along the lines of John makes for better viewing because Brendan is of a certain age and mostly keeps his emotions in check.

squoosh Wed 17-Oct-12 20:02:40

Most televised competitions result in disagreement amongst lots of people. They're designed to encourage you to pick a side.

And as for the 'unsporting' reference, well I've never been very deferential! Nor likely to start. It seems to me the reason most people watch football is to argue about it afterwards, this show would seem to be in the same vein.

Just watching episode one again <saddo> and the final is the hidden design cake (Union flags anyone?). Brendan doesn't appear in this bit and there doesn't seem to be any mention of him. Anyone remember why?

Or Danny...

Did they just not show all the contestants in the early episodes then?

wintera Wed 17-Oct-12 20:11:40

I think it was mentioned at the beginning of the other thread we had. Seem to remember people complaining back then that not all the cakes were shown. Maybe too many people/contestants? As the weeks went on they managed to show them all. Most probably a timing issue I would imagine.

hiviolet Wed 17-Oct-12 20:18:40

Yeah, they didn't bother showing everyone's bakes early on. Stupid really, all they needed to do was cut down on some of the talky stuff.

Ah ok. Thought it might be that when I realised Danny wasn't in it. When it was just Brendan I thought it was suspicious