Jewish Mother of the Year tonight!!

(71 Posts)
lighthousekeeping Tue 09-Oct-12 18:37:33

Yes, I know it's going to be full of stereotypes and my Jewish friends will be cringing but will watch it anyway I can't wait though!!! I'm recording it and will have a rubbish tv fest at the end of the week.

lisaro Tue 09-Oct-12 18:54:48

Argh. I thought it looked absolutely shit! Would be happy to be proved wrong, though.

lighthousekeeping Tue 09-Oct-12 19:01:22

Oh, it will be on my guilty pleasure list!

lighthousekeeping Tue 09-Oct-12 19:03:55

Oh, it will be on my guilty pleasure list!

MrsY Tue 09-Oct-12 19:06:43

When/what channel is it on?

lighthousekeeping Tue 09-Oct-12 19:10:50

9pm. I think ch 4

I'm going to give it a go. Dh is very hmm but I'm in the mood for escapism tv.

I can't wait- it's at ten though !

My guide says 9pm? Not waiting up til 10, I'm knackered!

oh, I will check !

you're correct !!

freetoanyhome Tue 09-Oct-12 21:18:44

am cringing already

freetoanyhome Tue 09-Oct-12 21:48:53

kinda reminds me of a middle class competative party! The frocks, sneers etc <shudder>

jessiegee Tue 09-Oct-12 21:49:23

I'm behind my cushion. Embarrassing or wot!

bran Tue 09-Oct-12 21:51:42

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I find it quite sad really.

jessiegee Tue 09-Oct-12 21:57:20

It is bobby. Really sad.

bran Tue 09-Oct-12 21:58:42

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hmc Tue 09-Oct-12 22:00:50

I don't really understand the premise of this programme - it seems strangely 'niche'. What's so special about Jewish mothers as opposed to non-Jewish mothers? Am a bit nonplussed (shrugs)

rosyposyandc Tue 09-Oct-12 22:02:46

It is such humiliating stereotyped crap. And there will be people out there who think that is what we are all like. Cringe does not even come close

AuntFini Tue 09-Oct-12 22:04:09

I didnt realise it was now appropriate to stereotype Jewish people again. Hate this crap tv, just like my big fat gypsy wedding

jessiegee Tue 09-Oct-12 22:42:01

It is completely bloody dreadful. hmc the only thing 'special' thing about Jewish mothers as opposed to all other mothers, are the things that are stereotyped - ie we're supposed to be mega over protective, mega over-involved with every aspect of our family's lives, constantly feeding/over-feeding everyone, insanely over-proud of our children's every breath. Of course in reality, we're no different to any other Mother.

Along with Strictly Kosher, this is another vile stereotyping of an entire faith. Though with Citizen Khan, the Muslims get completely stereotyped and the travelling community have to cope with Big Fat Gypsy Wedding, so I guess we can't feel too persecuted at present. I wish they'd just stop with all this shit already!

hmc Tue 09-Oct-12 22:44:36

Yes I can see the stereo typing must be infuriating.

freetoanyhome Wed 10-Oct-12 09:32:02

you're right Jessie.

jessiegee Wed 10-Oct-12 14:11:19

It's just this sort of rubbish that gives us the reputation for being gobby, loud, interfering, princessy, bossy, moneyed, over-priveliged and self-righteous. Watching this, you can understand why people could easily come away with that impression. I suppose bog standard quiet, unassuming and calm Jewish mothers wouldn't want to go on programmes like this. Or if they did, they'd not be selected. Argggggh. It makes me embarrassed to be Jewish.

squoosh Wed 10-Oct-12 14:16:22

I saw a few minutes of this programme. Was a bit of a strange premise, pair up wildly different Mums who happen to be Jewish and let the sparks fly.

The tanned skinny Mum had a mahoosive medieval style front door. I felt a bit sorry for the woman she was paired with.

Is there a prize at the end of it?

lighthousekeeping Wed 10-Oct-12 17:52:44

Agony Aunt for the Jewish Times.

A couple of those women were very familiar to me, I wonder where they are from?

It was rather crap sad I think it was very naughty of them to try and give credence to the stereotype by the judges they chose.

nkf Wed 10-Oct-12 19:14:20

I haven't watched it. I know it will be utter rubbish. I loathe all these programmes that make women look stupid. Cupcake Wars, anything with Gok Wan in it. All of them.

gingergran Wed 10-Oct-12 19:30:27

Do people really take programmes like these seriously - citizen khan is so stereotyped that you can see any 'gags' coming a mile off.

I thought Jewish Mother of the Year was typical cr*p reality TV but I found it highly assuming in parts and cringeworthy in others.

I have to say that I know two of the women in it, Emma who is exactly as she appears on the programme, a typical Jewish princess, overprivileged and spoilt, and Jacqueline, who teaches music at my children's school and seems as mad as a box of frogs (allegedly!).

I know that Jacqueline did not enter any sort of competition but was approached when walking down the street and i'm not sure she knew what she was letting herself in for.

Personally, I am looking forward to he next one for tips on how not to marry off my children!

jessiegee Wed 10-Oct-12 19:49:30

I really hope that people don't take it seriously ginger. Lord help us if people think this crew is representative of most Jews.

comixminx Wed 10-Oct-12 22:20:02

Just watched it now on 4seven or whatever. It was dreadfully cringeworthy. They clearly gave only minimal screen time to the actual competent ones, like the ones who did that rather fantastic fruit creation. I'd rather watch done thing like GBBO which has sympathy for the people involved in it.

GingerGran, which one was Jacqueline, what bit did she do?

gingergran Thu 11-Oct-12 06:57:15

she was the one who drank her first cocktail - knocked back the vodka - and made the fruit tower

comixminx Thu 11-Oct-12 08:13:25

Thanks Ginger: I thought she was good, and clearly competent too, which is no doubt why they didn't show that much of her, preferring to concentrate on the car crash stuff. If they approached her in the street then presumably they found it hard to get willing targets, er I mean contestants?

lighthousekeeping Thu 11-Oct-12 09:04:26

I think they went into toddler groups etc to ask.

lighthousekeeping Fri 12-Oct-12 18:11:00

It's weird seeing where u live on telly.

SadPunk Sat 13-Oct-12 00:47:10

I do like that Woman's house, the skinny tanned one?? The kitchen/hallway was a bit medieval.

lighthousekeeping Sat 13-Oct-12 10:01:05

I've seen her before. Has she been in another programme? I did enjoy the comedians on the other side afterwards,

lighthousekeeping Tue 16-Oct-12 21:29:25

Is it any good tonight?

Nope grin

squoosh Tue 16-Oct-12 21:58:49

The date with the glasses is an absolute arse. What hissy fits he throws.

lighthousekeeping Tue 16-Oct-12 22:51:17

Is Emma a beautician? Her house is amazing.

I know that hairdresser in Brent Cross. I agree the guy with the glasses is not very nice.

Viperidae Tue 16-Oct-12 23:08:11

I'm quite enjoying it but some of those women are really irritating, I suppose it is having all those strong characters together brings out the worst at times.

Davros Wed 17-Oct-12 08:00:19

Loved it for all the wrong reasons! But it won't offend me, just all the women in DH's family. Citizen Khan is fiction (so called comedy) so not a comparison

I'm still unsure about this. I'm a jewish mother, unsurprisingly with a jewish mother and we've both been watching this and rolling our eyes. Although I know my DM and I have elements of the stereotype, I can't say I'm offended, I just take it with a pinch of salt, like TOWIE or and other 'reality' show.

I'm finding most of them annoying, I'm glad that really frum woman went as she was just awful and completely out of touch with reality. I had though the little ginger one might win it as she was sort of traditional yet modern but it seems not. The other orthodox one seems completely mental to me. I'm also quite surprised by who's left as they seem to be the extremes and not the middle ground.

I think its sort of mildly enjoyable, although I prefer Jews at Ten, much funnier and at least its slightly educational.

lighthousekeeping Wed 17-Oct-12 12:12:19

Jews at Ten is fantastic. Have got a real urge to find my Annie Hall DVD after last night.

I also thought the red head would go through. No woman in her right mind will touch that guy with the glasses now.

Bizarrely it made me want to watch Fiddler on the Roof. David Schneider has been particularly good in it. Also been surprised by some of those people being jewish.

Glasses guy was awful, the way he behaved, I can't imagine his mother will be pleased. Going on about how wonderful he is at dating, yet he's still single.

Is it just me who thinks the woman with the 6 children comes across as crazy. She keeps crying.

lighthousekeeping Wed 17-Oct-12 12:29:46

I think she's very bossy that one. Likes to be in control. I like the older one from Leeds. They all look very familiar to me for some reason!! I know what you mean about been surprised by the celebs who are Jewish on that programme. I don't think many of them are religious as such. Two of them were conversions, weren't they and I think most of them have married out. It's like taking the best bits. Like we all do!!! I'd forgotten about Charlotte and Harry in SATC. Makes me want to watch that as well!

Yes I like the older one, I think she might be the most likely to win now.

Yes I think a few were conversions. I'm sort of religious, but DH isn't jewish, we didn't have a jewish wedding, although there were certain aspects involved, I haven't really done much with the DC. We just celebrate the holidays and are a bit fussy with our food.

I have friends who have watched Jews at 10 and found it really interesting. I much prefer it to Strictly Kosher which I found bloody awful.

lighthousekeeping Wed 17-Oct-12 13:30:34

Oh that was not good. I think there's a person at Channel 4 who's behind all these programmes as they are all so similar. I loved the old chap in strictly kosher and the gay straight shop keeper fascinated me.

I can't take to Emma at all. Her husband must have an amazing job. I love Radlett where she lives.

The shopkeeper fascinated me, but i think that was nothing to do with him being Jewish more that he was so camp.

I can't work out if I think these Jewish programmes are good or bad. I know that some of my teen DCs friends told me they watched Strictly Kosher, and they seemed quite intrigued by the whole thing. We live in East London so jews, particularly hasids are not that uncommon as in some areas but still they're a bit of a mystery. My DC being mixed race (dh is black) does mean to their friends its all a bit confusing that their jewish but look nothing like what they know as jews. I think these shows help in that respect but then could be damaging at some level.

I like Emma, she's much more my kind of person than some of the others, but I'm quite shallow into things like beauty, fashion and sort of 'younger' attitudes. I would love to know what her husband does.

And ooh Radlett, I wonder if she knows my cousin. She lives in that area and her children attend one of the jewish schools there. Although she doesn't like me and my lack of observance so probably hates Emma!

HazeltheMcWitch Wed 17-Oct-12 14:48:08

Ooh, I watched this, thought it was ok, but that is more as I am putting them into boxes of Nice, and Not Nice. In Nice, I had the one with curly red hair, the one paired with Ruth, and the one paired with Emma. And the blonde from last week. And Traci-Ann (sp?), who I LOVE.

I didn;'t like Ruth. I would tar her with my worst insult, or 'not having many women friends'. (and I guess she can't really have friendships with blokes in the same way that I do either.) She just can't seem to get on with anyone at all.

Which leads me to ask: what does 'frum' mean? It was said last night and above. Is it just every orthodox, or does it mean more? Is 6 children lady also frum?

Frum.Last night I think he said Frummer/a which is basically someone who is frum.

I and my family always use it as someone who is quite observant. So not necessarily orthodox but observant. Although I don't really mix with observant jews and I think amongst them its just for orthodox and hasids.

So yes 6 lady is frum. She is a frumma.

HazeltheMcWitch Wed 17-Oct-12 16:37:35

Ah, thank you!

HazeltheMcWitch Wed 17-Oct-12 16:47:55

Ooh, a bit of judicious (ahem) googling reveals that Mr Emma is Laurence Beck, a chartered surveyor/property investor.

And that Emma became known when a Batmitvah routine that she did with her daughters went viral last year. linky

squoosh Wed 17-Oct-12 16:49:11

Wowzers, embarassing Mum alert. The daughters don't look too mortified though.

Her children are September, Atlanta, Gypsy, Duran and Tiger Lily!

One Direction performed.

At least she seems a laugh.

squoosh Wed 17-Oct-12 17:05:40

grin

Interesting, names. I'd have been surprised if she'd had an Emily and a Chloe.

And this is the video!

HazeltheMcWitch Wed 17-Oct-12 17:07:56

Erm, September Bliss if you please!

So. She was a Duranie, wasn't she? Someone from Duran Duran had a child called Atlanta, with Amanda de Cadenet. A Taylor, not sure which.
WOuld have expected at least one to be called Rio.

HazeltheMcWitch Wed 17-Oct-12 17:12:07

I think if I had her figure, I'd be posting videos of myself in crop tops ALL THE TIME!

squoosh Wed 17-Oct-12 17:12:51

September Bliss sounds like the name of a slightly racy Mills and Boon novel.

Fuck is she older than me? She looks so good for her age and a mother of 5!

It was John Taylor apparently.

Tiger Lily is very Paula Yates.

God imagine what Ruth must have made of their names. People think my DCs names are a bit odd but they're not this wacky. I wonder if hers have hebrew names too like mine <smug alert>

LOL have to post this.

In response to me saying Tiger Lily is very Paula Yates, DD1 just said and Gypsy is very Yates Wine Bar grin

All my 3 are impressed by the video though.

HazeltheMcWitch Wed 17-Oct-12 17:19:08

Very Yates Wine Bar?! She's really witty!!! How old?

HazeltheMcWitch Wed 17-Oct-12 17:20:57

this made ma laugh. In a profile of all the Jewish Mothers, the most positive thing they author could say about Ruth was wears sheitel throughout!

really did not like Ruth

She's 17, I'm surprised she knows what they are though.

However she has pointed out to me that I've often harped on in utter disgust about somewhere being like a Yates blush

HazeltheMcWitch Wed 17-Oct-12 17:26:35

I think that's a good joke for a 17yo!
But what doI know? My eldest is 4 and his only favourite joke is what's brown and sticky...

I'm quite impressed, I've rewarded her with a freddo.

That blogs quite funny. Am intrigued by Emma and her family although more by the fact it doesn't give her age. It appears her husband does a bit of footballing too.

I didn't like ruth either, she was like a 12 year old school girl with glasses man and with the batmitzvah challenge she started off by saying she was out of touch with youth then trying to dominate the entire thing.

lighthousekeeping Wed 17-Oct-12 18:42:49

After watching that video I can see them been on My Sweet 16 next. I love seeing rich people's houses! smile. I was in Radlett yesterday at my friends impressive house and I asked her where she thought Emma's was and she said that the big houses are all at "the other side" of Radlett. My friends has a mere six bedrooms so god knows how many the ones on "the other side" have.

GimmeIrnBru Wed 17-Oct-12 19:09:47

Have been watching this show. Very intriguing. Will keep watching til the end as I'm hooked now!

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