Benefits street ep3

(119 Posts)

Anyone watching?

Retropear Tue 21-Jan-14 10:53:32

Erm how do you do it when you live in a street filled with them and have limited outside space?

Think those if us living in our m/c bubbles aren't best placed to judge unless we live in a street filled with junkies and very little outside space ourselves.

I find it hard enough sheltering my dc from bully boy next door and his rabid pet dogs.I am lucky we have a good sized garden,a car and enough cash to take them out for the day.

Nancy66 Tue 21-Jan-14 11:00:35

Well, for starters any 2 and 3 year is too young to play on the street whether they live on Benefits Street or Millionaire's Row.

Retropear Tue 21-Jan-14 11:09:39

Rubbish if the parent is monitoring it properly.My 3 played out in their cars,toy buggies etc frequently at that age under my supervision in their nice m/c street.Many kids have to because that is the only outside space they have.

PistolAnnies Tue 21-Jan-14 13:48:19

I'm with Nancy66, I wouldn't dare let my little ones play out in the street, and they're 6 and 3!

Blondeshavemorefun Tue 21-Jan-14 13:52:36

Totally agree kids shouldn't be playing in the street alone

I said the same earlier about dees son playing in the park alive and in the dark

If the street shown from birds eye at beginning is theirs then they have back gardens

Tiredemma Tue 21-Jan-14 14:55:13

I wouldnt want my kids within a mile of Funghi and his mates. They do have gardens behind those houses also.

Lottapianos Tue 21-Jan-14 15:13:36

Very sad episode. I have worked (NHS) with loads of parents like Mark and Becky - quite sweet and well meaning but not a single clue about how to be around a child never mind be a parent. Children's Centre parenting advice is excellent and it was lovely to see the change in Becky's understanding of the situation developing when she got some support. I felt sorry for Mark, that job looked soul destroying.

White Dee was vile to her little boy over the bike incident

Nancy66 Tue 21-Jan-14 15:22:27

White Dee's daughter seems like a nice, bright kid. Hope she gets the hell away from her mother as soon as she's able. Bet Dee will be one of those mothers that expects her daughter to become her carer though and never have a life of her own.

At least Mark and Becky were going to parenting classes. Thing is they're both very young so they'll have another 2 or 3 kids in five years' time and they'll never quite get on top of their situation.

PrivateBenjamin Tue 21-Jan-14 16:24:11

Dee's daughter seems like a smart girl, I hope she has hopes and dreams for the future away from that street. Dee's behaviour to her son was disgusting. The screaming and sending a fiveyear old out at night in the dark to look for his bike is just disgraceful.

I felt really sorry for Becky and Mark. They really want to be good parents but they just don't know how. Mark was so proud of his first CV, even showing it to his son, it brought a tear to my eye. I noticed Dee took the piss out of a spelling mistake on it when Mark showed it to her, she is just a horrible negative person.

Lottapianos Tue 21-Jan-14 17:54:20

Nancy, the whole way through the program I was looking at Becky and Mark and thinking PLEASE for the love of sanity do NOT have another baby!

Nancy66 Tue 21-Jan-14 17:59:00

me too. You just know they will though....

glammanana Tue 21-Jan-14 18:03:53

Nancy66 I'm with you with the fact that the children shouldn't be playing in the Street at their age,they where right near the Road and the mother sitting on the step what chance if they ran into the Road : no chance at all !!the mother could not even control the little boy when they went shopping why couldn't she put him on reins to stop him running off - simple solution in my mind, their parents are not that uneducated to clean up the disgusting front room prior to HV arriving so they must know the way things should be,and white Dee comes across to me as someone who knows "The System" inside out I was also shocked when I read she had been found guilty of stealing all that money when she was employed by the Council,I can't remember what the outcome was but certainly if she was fined for the offence it would have been paid via benefit money she claimed so technically paid by the people who pay contributions when they go to work,no excuse for not having a job of somekind even volunteering would give her some self esteem I think,but I expect she will still be sitting smoking in her tip of a house until she draws her pension.

Pixel Tue 21-Jan-14 19:13:01

Erm how do you do it when you live in a street filled with them and have limited outside space?

Er, you do what my mum did when I was little and we lived in a small flat in town, she took us to the park every day.

Blondeshavemorefun Tue 21-Jan-14 20:46:18

and the couple with £3k rent arrears, again if they both stopped smoking then would have enough money to pay it back each week - bet they smoke 20 a day each, so £12 a day minimum brand depending, thats £84 aweek shock

moondog Tue 21-Jan-14 20:50:49

It seems she had no qualms about stealing money destined for vulnerable people. Somewhat at odd with her champion of the proletariat persona.

NinjaBunny Tue 21-Jan-14 21:07:24

Why did the camera men not intervene when White Dee was bellowing at her little boy and sending him out in the dark?

Maybe given him a hug when he was sobbing outside.

And got him some proper food, rather than that bit of chicken leg he was eating.

White Dee is the worst on the street.

angry

rainydarkskies Tue 21-Jan-14 21:36:49

I still think White Dee has been edited heavily.

Mark and becky - blimey, sorry case there. Two people who aren't particularly attractive, bright or with any family support from what I could discern who just seemed so helpless. Just slumped, waiting for HV, for SS, for the government to step in and be their parent. They are parents but clearly need parenting themselves.

nikkihollis Tue 21-Jan-14 23:44:14

Just watched this on iplayer. Beyond sad and bleak. As so many have said, it's not just about poverty - it's about ignorance and dependency - on nicotine, alcohol, drugs, the state.

I'm not British and although I've seen much more acute and unavoidable poverty - kids without shoes, minimal access to medical care, mucky because there's no running water in the home etc - I'm not used to seeing fit adults not working and children exposed to so much negativity. Being poor doesn't mean you automatically have to deprive your kids of sleep, adequate food. sufficient bathing or let them run around unsupervised in an area high in crime and substance abuse.

As the guy in tonight's episode said - if you don't work you don't eat. For a vast percentage of the world's population, that is a fact. I love the fact that the UK has a welfare system. At home. sick and disabled people often have to beg so they can support themselves, which is beyond terrible. The benefit system here though allows people to treat it as a way of life if they want to. Surely it is something you can fall back on if you lose a job, are sick or disabled or need it to supplement a low wage? I felt really sad for everyone on tonight's episode. There just seems to be total ignorance about basic nutrition, basic child rearing and an expectation that the state will and should provide.

hickorychicken Wed 22-Jan-14 07:12:33

I disliked white dee from the offset, i grew up in a similar place and knew a woman like her, she was awful and her kids grew up to be bullies And criminals, she used to think of herself as the mum of the estate and thought people actually respected her grin .
On other threads about this show people have blamed bad editing showing these people in a bad light... well if you loook on google street view of that street becky is sat eating macdonalds in her front garden and black dee is sticking her fingers up at the googld car...cant blame THAT on editing! I do think they love their kids a lot they just need a bit of help.

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