Nigel Slater......ARRRGGGHHH so smug!

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Isn't he?
Its all the little rubber sealed jars full of organic sugar and butter wrapped in brown paper. And the way he says cheese.

I just can't watch him on the tv. He's so cringeworthy! Like his books mind you, but he's the most horrible tv chef, in a world of horrible tv chefs.

lalalonglegs Wed 24-Nov-10 21:09:07

Love his books and his recipes but he isn't a natural TV presence very earnest. I'm not sure he's smug exactly but it is all so blahdy aspirational - it's like being locked in some parallel WaitroseLand. And, have you noticed, he pulls really strange faces when he dishes up?

Eliza70 Wed 24-Nov-10 21:14:52

Sumg. And needs to wash his hair.

TabithaTwitchet Wed 24-Nov-10 21:16:55

I prefer to read his books than watch him on TV.
But maybe BBC insist on sugar/butter packaging to avoid revealing brand names?

YES lala! and when hes talking in general he does an alarming chin jutting out movement. Dreadful.

its not even funny in a Nigella way. It's just uncomfortable hmm

ohhh, hadn't thought of that Tabitha...

debka Wed 24-Nov-10 21:21:15

Love his books but CRINGE at the way he caresses his ingredients.

And Nigel, please cut your hair.

ClaireDeLoon Wed 24-Nov-10 21:24:29

I love Nigel and I won't have a word said against him do you hear!! SIL knows him slightly through her job and says he's lovely.

SparklyJules Wed 24-Nov-10 21:24:41

<whispers> I like him <whispers>

I bet he is lovely in real life....but on telly hes just uncomfortable viewing grin

nomorecake Wed 24-Nov-10 21:35:11

i'm sure he's very nice person.

but what is with the pause, then longing backward glances at the food. as if he's going to sweep it off the plate and make love to it right there on the table?

ChoChoSan Wed 24-Nov-10 21:40:39

I loved the Guardians preview...Nigel implores us to 'know the pleasure of a marrow'

ClaireDeLoon Wed 24-Nov-10 21:41:53

well yes, 'know the pleasure of a marrow' is a bit fnar fnar I do admit.

haha! very funny!

LittleCottonSocks Wed 24-Nov-10 22:31:03

I like him!!

sharbie Wed 24-Nov-10 22:35:31

agree about the hair and grin at the marrow

PURPLESWAN Wed 24-Nov-10 22:41:49

Oh I love him, I get the feeling he loves food rather than "wants to be a celebrity" and is just using food to get there.

But then I do loathe most of the other TV chefs.

pointydog Wed 24-Nov-10 22:45:54

I can't watch nigel. I come over all queasy. But I love his recipes.

moondog Wed 24-Nov-10 22:47:24

I love Nigel.
I suspect he isn't grest on tv buit as i don't watch it i remain hermetically sealed from any unpleasantness.

PURPLESWAN Wed 24-Nov-10 22:50:24

Nigels Cornflake cakes are the best ever, all gooey, sweet and bad for you - just how they are meant to be.

unavailable Wed 24-Nov-10 23:06:42

SMUG? OP Are you sure you arent confusing the lovely Nigel with porn queen Nigella Lawson?

well done moondog! "hermetically sealed" grin

Look, tbh I have never cooked anything from any of his I AM basing my opinion purely on my (sick making) viewing experience last night grin

Unavailable - definitely not, but wouldn't they be hillarious as a couple? Like a really dreadful psuedo-porn Richard and Judy...

ConstanceFelicity Thu 25-Nov-10 11:28:07

I fancy him

<<hopeless lover of gay men emoticon>>

Good God ConstanceFelicity grin

Agree he is odd on TV. But his recipes are the dog's bollocks.

His recipe for baked potatoes has revolutionised my life. I know this sounds pathetic but they are out of this world (all it invovles is (i) no cross on top, just prick over with a fork a few times (ii) when still damp, douse in salt (iii) bake on bars of oven forever, not on a tray and (iv) (the best bit) to open wrap in tea towel and BASH with the side of your hand which releases a big cloud of steam. You will never look back...)

mrsshackleton Thu 25-Nov-10 11:47:29

Nigel and Nigella did do a double act on Channel 4 many moons ago before either had hit the big time. Think C4 spotted Nigella's potential and she took off, whereas Nigel was consigned to the back of the cupboard until the BBC weirdly decided to make something out of his leftovers.

I will try it, Freebuttonbee, all my baked potatoes are pretty crap...

lalalonglegs Thu 25-Nov-10 12:23:08

I think that's exactly what happened mrsshackleton. I heard from someone that used to work with him that he was bitter about it for years.

ClaireDeLoon Thu 25-Nov-10 12:23:21

I feel I must add a elf and safety warning - a friend tried the bash the spud thing without the tea towel FreeButtonBee describes and ended up with burns. Please follow her instructions carefully grin

Roger that Clairedeloon! grin

actually he does have the look of someone that has been nursing bitterness for a few years....poor Nige.

GetOrfMoiLand Thu 25-Nov-10 12:27:12

I do love Nigel Slater's books - he writes so beautifully.

But on telly he is like Alan Bennett crossed with Anthony Worrall-Thompson. Not a good look.

It really is twee - what the hell were the producers thinking. It is like one big smug middle class food-wank.

ProfYaffle Thu 25-Nov-10 12:28:54

I love the way he says 'cheese' though am always expecting it to be followed by 'gromitt'

MayorNaze Thu 25-Nov-10 12:30:38

i quite like nigel

he, along with rolf harris, has mastered the Art Of The Pause, illustrated thus:

"I do like Autumn <<pause>>, all the plums and blackberrys etc <<pause>>i think i'll make a crumble <<pause>> and i'll have it with custard" etc etc

over the whole half hour i think he only actually says around 4 sentences grin

Iamcountingto3 Thu 25-Nov-10 12:34:55

I love his books and the way he writes, but can not watch him on TV. Except kitchen diaries which is an exercise in urban-smuggery.

Actually, same goes for Nigella, but with bells on.

<whispers - I fancy him too... He's maybe only a little gay...>

MayorNaze Thu 25-Nov-10 12:36:08

i find it very strange that he isn't all carry on camp and mincey, yet my first thought is always oh nigel you are so very very gay, bless you

chocoholic Thu 25-Nov-10 12:40:47

What a genius he is.
Take one of last nights gems; what do you do with an old potato? Imagine my surprise when he sliced it and then fried it!!
Who else could come up with such imaginative ideas. wink

HonestyBox Thu 25-Nov-10 12:44:36

I love Nigel's marrow.

"Middle Class Food Wank" grin that made me laugh!

I don't think I could fancy Nigel even if I was ovulating.

pointydog Thu 25-Nov-10 13:12:27

I remember that show nigel did where he cooked with a sleb and then did a bit of a chat show over the meal.

It was turrible.

lazarusb Thu 25-Nov-10 20:06:51

He has grown on me recently...never really liked him before.

runaroundstartsnow Thu 25-Nov-10 20:29:28

I adore him, his recipes are so easy to follow smile

bluebump Thu 25-Nov-10 20:41:13

I am always jealous of his kitchen! I like his recipes too but don't love him that much on the telly.

BustleInYourHedgerow Thu 25-Nov-10 21:09:44

I love him, especially after reading toast, and the BBC are making Toast for Christmas! Toast for everyone!

MollieO Thu 25-Nov-10 21:15:28

I love him and least his face hasn't been botoxed beyond reason. Watched Nigella tonight and she is a procedure away from looking mask like (see Lulu, Caprice, Carla Bruni etc).

Longstocking2 Fri 26-Nov-10 00:20:27

yes but he WROTE to me, I have his letter in my 30 minute edition..... He has


handwriting! I love him.

But one of the papers said it's hard to take a man earnestly talking about using up leftovers while standing in a kitchen large enough to land a plane in grin I thought that was funny.

People in Islington never know why they're so funny like that extraordinary woman Rosie Millard moaning about how hard life is when you can't rent out your flat in Paris and the three houses in London you bought as investments are jolly expensive to keep up when the tenants are cruddy chiz chiz chiz. I bet SHE knows Nigel but I bet her hates her.

Longstocking2 Fri 26-Nov-10 00:21:51

Well why won't anyone talk to me about paul hollywood now there's a baker who can knead my buns any time

it must be late!

MayorNaze Fri 26-Nov-10 01:01:02

is he the blue-eyed silver fox from british bakeoff??

Punkatheart Fri 26-Nov-10 08:08:53

Love Nigel Slater - think he is actually very sincere.

Don't slate the Slater!

It's his family on Eastenders I dislike! wink

Bucharest Fri 26-Nov-10 08:18:05

Oh goody! I love bashing sleb cook threads!

Nigel gives me the absolute heebs. (I agree, his recipes are wonderful, and his books are lovely, but he is just so greasy)

Doesn't quite heeb me out as much as that dreadful Valentine slurpy slurpy sucky sucky man though. (can't remember his surname, just his cringey first one) did that thing on ingredients and kept slurping into fruit and veg in a way that if it were one of our children we'd slap 'em round the noggin for disgusting table manners. Ate everything in hoooooge portions and talked at the same time so we could see it all being masticated. Uck Uck Uck.

Nigella is still my goddess. (but she needs longer cashmere, lovely though it is to see a woman with a real belly)

Longstocking2 Fri 26-Nov-10 10:39:20

mayornaze oh yes. I have a secret penchant for the man and his floury hands.....

Who is Valentine?

Why oh Why can't anyone join me again in speaking with horror about that CaCa caCOW chocolate bloke what is his name? with the house in the south west and the gorgeous wife and the Boden catalogue kids?
The one who baked a pig in a hole in his lawn? Posh as hell?

Alibabaandthe40nappies Fri 26-Nov-10 10:43:50

I like his recipes, but I cannot bear watching him, or even reading his articles really because of the smuggery.

It is the casual assumption that we all have a garden full of a vast variety of herbs and vegetables that we can go and select from before we prepare our evening meal, argh.

Having said that, can I recommend his marinated pork chops with vermouth-braised fennel. Yum, yum!

Alibabaandthe40nappies Fri 26-Nov-10 10:45:00

Bucharest - yes he is dreadful too, and cannot speak so I can't understand how he ever got on television!

JulesJules Fri 26-Nov-10 10:57:30

Well I love his recipes, but can no longer bear watching him on tv.

Smug wankery.

Left over cheese? Oh, can it be a couple of square inches of dried up Cathedral City? It can not. It can be about 3lbs of various beautiful artisan produced smug cheese, wrapped in paper and tied with string.

Butter wrapped in brown paper. OMFG.

Longstocking2 Fri 26-Nov-10 11:00:13

Wille Harcourt-Cooze

Bucharest Fri 26-Nov-10 11:07:47

lol- was thinking, erm, posh, bakes pigs in the back garden, sounds like Hugh FW but gorgeous wife and Boden children just didn't compute.

After seeing Valentine with tomatoes I'm just thankful they don't grow mangoes in the UK.

lalalonglegs Fri 26-Nov-10 11:42:28

I shall join you Longstocking in your hatred of Willie and his toff's chocolate. Couldn't bear the way that we were meant to think he was some lovable eccentric and that this was a huge financial gamble: he's got an estate in Venezuela, he's living in one of the houses on his father's estate (I believe), he is obviously bloody well-connected (I'll just go and speak to my friend Marco Pierre White about my chocolate; I'll just get the nice people from Channel 4 to commission a series about "my struggle" and publicise my product for nothing). He is not about to go belly up hmm.

Longstocking2 Fri 26-Nov-10 11:48:35

and the wife is like Lady blahblah too isn't she?
I mean, that's fine and all but it's more false jeopardy as always.
And that xmas party and gorgeous mummy making gingerbread/ca COW xmas tree decorations in the AH GAH!
And the roasting HOG in the lawn and the heinous bodenfest was heave too far from me.
It's like Nigella's friends coming round for her oh so laidback xmas smackerals.....
it's all about that weird John Lewis aspirational lifestyle frenzy spend spend spend, be perfect, stick your tits out and dress your kids like they're just come out of some Finnish wigwam.

those of you with a crush need to read "Toast" - it may give you a sliver of hope...

I wanted to mother him after reading it; poor fella had a bit of a rough time of it. Also have the feeling he is slightly asp-y as well, which might explain the slight odd-ness on the telly.

Will have to keep an eye out for the tv version. Thanks Bustle!

BustleInYourHedgerow Fri 26-Nov-10 11:55:35

Yuparooney! Helena Bonham-Carter is evil stepmother and Freddie Highmore id young Nigel.

renaldo Fri 26-Nov-10 12:12:56

finish wigwam

renaldo Fri 26-Nov-10 12:13:48

That is exactly how SIL dresses her child
looks bloody stupid in the east midlands

IslaValargeone Fri 26-Nov-10 12:19:11

I am desperate to watch him after reading this thread, love his books but never seen him on television.
As for Willie bloomin' whatsisface biscuit

Longstocking2 Fri 26-Nov-10 12:30:00

LOL renaldo, the child as status accessory/dolly/pet/narcissistic appendage... I have stuff to do but I could go on!!!

I love nigel, he taught me to cook with real fast food.
He wrote me a letter in response to mine.
He is awkward on telly next to some more natural types (paul hollywood... swoon come to me with those flour hands, you're welcome to knead my bread..)

Sorry! confused blush

Ohhhhh yeah, remember when Mr Ca-COW had a "white christmas" and they put fake snow in the garden so we could watch the whole family gambol about in it, in all their Nordic Jumpered glory?

And the time when we had to keep going to the "factory" with all those ridiculous brass ca-COW machines from 1823 which (surprisingly) kept breaking down, the wife in the background looking mildly irritated yet resigned?

The hog roast in the garden pit was obscene. I might do that this christmas, if i can find the grass under the debris of spent fireworks and assorted plastic tat...

MonkeySee Fri 26-Nov-10 13:21:35

It's the way he says:

A DISH of roasted plums.

So pretentious.

Vintagepommery Fri 26-Nov-10 14:09:53

I like his books but haven't watched his telly series but now I want to know does he say cheese??

bluebump Fri 26-Nov-10 16:47:15

I live in the same town as the Willie chocolate bloke, I often see him in the supermarket. He was renting that house that they filmed in as I recently saw it up for rent again, it is a lovely place. I bought some of his chocolate as I like to support the locals but I couldn't get it to make anything that tasted nice blush

he says cheese like Wallace, just like ProfYaffle says!

Loving the insider info on willy, blue bump!

Longstocking2 Sat 27-Nov-10 12:08:50

LOL bluebump that kind of sums it up doesn't it?
Telly is so full of fiction in its lifestyle progs.

TorcherQueenie Sat 27-Nov-10 18:03:26

Valentine Warner is the guy you're looking to hate on grin he is a twunt though really not even accidently like Nigel.

GrendelsMum Sun 28-Nov-10 20:01:41

Oh, his books are great, though, and his artices on veg growing. I think that Nigel Slater should be forgiven pretentious cookingness on the telly because he is a really good food writer. As is Nigella, actually, although I think she's run out of cookbooks now. I used to cut each of her columns out of Vogue and stick them in my cookbook back in the day...

swanandduck Mon 29-Nov-10 13:18:53

I think he's great. A nice, calm change from all the shouty, bouncy, gimmicky chefs we regularly see on telly.
I also love his recipes and the way he relies on ordinary stuff he had in the cupboard or can buy in the shops, not endless fancy schmancy ingredients that you have to go on a big search for.

BelligerentGhoul Mon 29-Nov-10 13:29:07

I have said this before and I will say it again: I don't mind reading Nigel but there is very little of his stuff that I actually want to cook. None of it ever sounds like a proper meal, apart from the meat stuff (I'm veggie) - he seems to live on cheese, walnuts, tomatoes and icecream.

sphil Mon 29-Nov-10 16:26:29

I remember laughing with DH over an old Nigel programme when he said straight to camera "Ooh, I do love my sausages sticky". Love his writing and his recipes - have only seen one of the latest programmes but can vouch for the chilli feta - yum!

So, Nigel fans, which is his best book? I have Real Food and Real Fast Food, both of which I love. But which is the best out of his others?

It's for DP, and needs to be a proper cook book with recipes, rather than something prose-heavy. Any suggestions? Is the 30 minute meals one any good?

(PMSL at "sticky sausages"!!)

sphil Mon 29-Nov-10 17:33:47

Tbh, I only really use those two, though I've got Kitchen DIaries (which is very prose heavy!) I would like a book of the Simple Suppers recipes but I don't think there is one -they're all on the Internet though. I'm doing the simple korma tonight-trying to eat more veg!

AvengingGerbil Mon 29-Nov-10 17:44:19

Can't bear him, either on paper or on TV.

Particularly couldn't bear it when he used to edit the Guardian/Observer Food Monthly supplement and the front cover was always 'Gorgeous Recipes from the World's Best Cook' and it turned out that the World's Best Cook was - ta da - Nigel Slater, the editor. Blow your own trumpet, much.

Maybe he is lovely in person.

sphil Mon 29-Nov-10 21:47:51

Quick korma very delicious

bakesalot Tue 30-Nov-10 12:20:54

He's a good cook and inspirational IF you don't have family meals to knock out Mon-Fri to fit around DS football training, DS cross country training, DD cub scouts, DH tennis matches, DD pilates, DH dayskipper course and whatever I find to do with any time left over for me (Ha!) He's a posh bloke who has loads of time to wander around his neighbourhood to funky ethnic grocers and come back home to cook 'whatever is left in the fridge'for himself and his partner. It's frivalous cooking and he is smug about it and his tyle of cooking doesn't work in our family. I think Jamie has his finger more on the pulse, he genuinely cares how and what people eat and most of his recipes in his later books are family-friendly.

ipredicttrouble Tue 30-Nov-10 16:06:40

He is but I love him!

Now don't get me started on Nigella & Jamie...smug doesn't even cut it with those two!! grin

hattymattie Thu 02-Dec-10 18:14:53

Unavailable - yes Nigella is smug and makes me want to slap her - naturally DH practically dribbles at the screen. Nigel seems really genuine and his recipes are interesting and don't look too difficult (not actually tried enything yet but the intention is there).

Irania Fri 09-Nov-12 21:13:01

Yes, Nigel is gay (does anyone care?) but I detect he's a nasty gay - off camera the asides will be very very bitchy and very hurtful. Closer to Kenneth Williams than Oscar Wilde. Without doubt Nigella would get a paste-ing.
His cooking is sensible and carefully done, but hey ho. Pretty damn tired of cooking shows - they're on because they're cheap.

Slater is just one of a very very very long line of middle class boys than have made their first step crawling to the well off, who will shell out £120 a plate. Second step is flogging some advice to the plebs.

Nigella is so much better value - she's comedy gold.

His recipes aren't recipes. Throw a bunch of Veg in a pot? Really? His leftovers aren't leftovers - my leftover cheese is two.inches of tesco mature cheddar, his is an.entire round.of brie. He claims to just be inventing things in his show - bull shit! It's been tested a dozen times, he's on a strict filming schedule. Disingenuous tosser .

sensesworkingovertime Mon 12-Nov-12 16:37:51

Nigel has good reason to be smug ( is there a word for nice smug not horrible smug, he's nice smug) because he lives in Slaterland. I want to live in Slaterland or at least visit for a day.

In Slaterland you have every speciality food shop you can think of only a jaunt away. No slumming it in the hellhole of Tescos/Asda/Sainsbury's for our Nige, no, he can shop at his deli for his lovely ingredients and have cosy chats with HELPFUL and FRIENDLY shopkeeepers aswell! If I stood there trying to ask a fishmonger what to do with my fish for 'supper' he'd probably just look at me as if I had two heads and grunt, whilst a scowling queue was steadily forming behind me grumbling 'get a move on'. Nige never has queues and said shopkeeper then invites Nige round to cook for him!

Also in Slaterland you have a kitchen big enough to play tennis in and how on earth does he grow every herb under the sun in that 20 foot square of concrete? And how, how, when we've had one of the wettest summers on record, does it never rain over his house??

StrawberrySquash Tue 04-Dec-12 21:38:50

To be fair, they are actually like that in that fishmongers - really helpful if you want to stot around and answer questions. Even when it's a Saturday morning and the place is full of people. But it is a ludicrous programme. We alternate between 'sumg!# and 'How weird is his kitchen?' and 'I want to live in his garden' and 'let's have that for dinner'.

hiviolet Wed 05-Dec-12 22:46:52

Zombie thread!

Having said that, glad I'm not the only one who gets the heebie jeebies from his greasy hair and overall manner <shudder>

Also, I fucking hate the word "supper" and people who use that word to describe their evening meal. Haaaaaaaate!

StrawberrySquash Sat 08-Dec-12 23:20:34

Oh dear. We have a new local butcher so we went along to support. And acquire a joint.
It was wrapped in brown paper and tied with string. Jolly tasty though and he threw in a spring of rosemary.

MildredIsMyAlterEgo Sat 08-Dec-12 23:50:34

hiviolet I'm with you on supper. What a pretentious word to describe a bowl of cornflakes at 10.30pm

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