Good reasons why 'working' a 7 day week is a bad idea (ideally reasons that a teenager will believe)

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KatyMac Fri 16-Aug-13 21:01:56

DD is doing flexi-schooling; so an hour off on a Friday morning and Tuesday afternoon off

She wants to spend Saturday & Sunday in London studying; can anyone give us good reasons why it's a bad idea....other than we don't think it's a good idea

OverTheFieldsAndFarAway Fri 16-Aug-13 21:05:46

Because all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
She will burn herself out before she get to Uni.

KatyMac Fri 16-Aug-13 21:07:44

Not going to uni - but I can adapt & use that, thanks OvertheFields

Work/study is fun so that's a bit awkward

Ragwort Fri 16-Aug-13 21:10:08

What sort of 'studying' will she be doing in London? Does it involve a long journey to get there?

To be honest if that was my teenage DD I would be inclined to let her try it - is there any 'penalty' involved if she has to give it up? Then she can make up her own mind if it is too much or not. I used to work seven days a week in my teens and early 20s - I loved it, didn't have a home/housework to worry about, had lots of friends where I was. Couldn't do it now !

Most parents struggle to get their teenagers out of bed before midday so the fact she wants to study must be a good sign surely? grin

littlemisswise Fri 16-Aug-13 21:11:49

DS2 (16) has been working in a part time job over the Summer. He recently did 7 days in a straight, hours varying 11-3, 12-6,8-3. He was knackered. He doesn't sleep brilliantly because of his asthma, his meal times were 'out'. By the time he got home, had something to eat, got changed, etc, there was no time for anything else. He was like a machine and it took it's toll.

I should imagine doing it permanently could make you ill.

YoniBottsBumgina Fri 16-Aug-13 21:14:28

Does she stand to lose anything if she starts it and drops one or two days? If not I would be inclined to let her try it - she'll soon find out why it's not a good idea and that's the point where you offer sympathy and suggestions to try and tip the balance a bit.

sandiy Fri 16-Aug-13 21:14:33

Because she needs to get a part time or baby sitting job on weekend in order to make herself more rounded as a person for cv or applications.Its a tough market any kind of work experience is worth it's weight in Gold.People will not neccesarily take seriously someone who has limited life experience especially in more people orientated professions.

KatyMac Fri 16-Aug-13 22:30:02

That's what I worry about Littlemiss

It's dance classes - she wants to go to vocational school next year & this year is a big one GCSEs, Dance Exams & Auditions

London is about 3.25 hrs door to door

I guess trying & seeing is what I thought would work as one word from me & she does what she likes anyway wink

Her work experience would be limited as I'd make her do homework/coursework on her day off anyway as doing it her way she would be doing that on the train <rolls eyes>

sashh Sat 17-Aug-13 08:09:38

Could she just do a Saturday in London?

Does she have anywhere to stay if she is doing 2 days? Otherwise her Sunday journey will be terrible, lots of engineering works, bus replacement etc, a 3.5h journey can easily become 5 hours, and that is far too much. How would she feel arriving 2 hours late for class and then spending hours on a bus instead of a train?

What is wrong with homework on the train? Lots of business people work on the train.

KatyMac Sat 17-Aug-13 11:45:02

No problem with homework on a train but if she isn't on the train I wouldn't let her get a job anyway as she is working so hard (but maybe I'm a pushover wink)

KatyMac Sat 17-Aug-13 11:46:38

Oh & it's 45 mins to the train, 2 hr train & 30 minute tube & walk to class

But I agree Sunday travel is awful! sad

Would she be dancing 7 days a week? That isn't good - your body needs some down time to recover. She needs at least 1 day a week with no dance/exercise at all.

KatyMac Sat 17-Aug-13 13:50:08

2 days Wed & Thurs but she might sing on one of them

It was the relentlessness of it all that worried me

peggyblackett Sat 17-Aug-13 13:58:43

She risks getting mediocre results across the board. Trying to fit too much in could mean poorer GCSE results and not achieving what she wants with her dance.

(Not being negative, just that you asked for reasons!).

Can she stagger the years? Do GCSEs this year and then apply for dance school the next? I too would worry that she will be knackered and then either under achieve her potential or worse burn out.

KatyMac Sat 17-Aug-13 14:16:35

Oh I agree

However I have found if I say flat out "no" she does it anyway; I need tactics I think

KatyMac Sat 17-Aug-13 16:57:41

She can do just Saturday - I'd prefer her to do just Saturday

But realistically doing over 2 years is pointless; chances are she will be planning her new career/returning to education at 30 so an extra year now is a waste of time

KatyMac Sat 17-Aug-13 20:53:43

I think I find 'fun' things easier to say no to
'Can I go to a mixed sleepover' "NO"
'Can I go to a gig 100 miles away with a friend driving' "NO"
'Can I have a party while you go away for the night' "NO"

'Can I work even harder than I am now; to better enable me to have a career - even tho' it's a fairly stupid plan and may cause me real problems/issues' "Well I'm not really sure dear, do you think it's wise?"

Slaps side of head

LynetteScavo Sat 17-Aug-13 20:57:26

Urm....even God has a rest on the seventh day.....(desperately grabs as straws)

Six days a week, yes. Seven, no.

KatyMac Sat 17-Aug-13 21:08:47

That's a good one wink

I would do Saturday or Sunday, she doesn't need both. Which schemes are they?

goodasitgets Sun 18-Aug-13 00:35:50

Her body will need the rest for muscles to recover - even my personal trainer (working for a bikini comp) has "rest and regrow" days

KatyMac Sun 18-Aug-13 09:58:58

I know it's too much; I just struggle to convey that info to her blush

London Studio Centre on Saturday & Artistry Youth Dance on Sunday

There are some good photos of the Artistry on Facebook & You-tube but I think it may have to be the one that goes - DD is very against that tho'

zipzap Sun 18-Aug-13 10:20:26

See if you can find some of the actual weekend train times recently and see if they have been horrendous - might help to dissuade her.

Would any of her dance teachers be willing to point out that she needs at least one rest day?

Is there anything closer that would be a good compromise as much less time travelling?

Ipsumlorem Sun 18-Aug-13 10:23:40

I think you should let her try it tbh. I may be slightly biased in that I (and a lot of my friends) did not grow up in well off families and therefore had to work nights during the week plus weekends from 16years of age onwards (through sixth form at school and first degree at uni) in order to pay for the nice clothes/socialising/extras that are important for teenagers. To be honest yes we were tired at times but we all did fine at school/uni and are in professional jobs now so it didn't do us any harm and in fact probably contributed to the development of a good work ethic overall. Teenagers and young adults tend to have more stamina for this sort of thing and at least she would be participating in/studying something she has chosen/enjoys on those extra days not breaking her back stocking shelves for some asshole just so she can go to the cinema with her friends

KatyMac Sun 18-Aug-13 12:53:21

She has been doing the Sunday since Easter & it's been OK (so far)

Part of me agrees with you Ipsumlorem & part of me worries she will burn out

Ipsumlorem Sun 18-Aug-13 13:10:02

Is there any scope for you to agree a 'trial period' for a set amount of time, after which you review whether or not (based on any negative changes in her behaviour/general demeanor/tiredness) to allow her to continue?

There is also a chance of course that the idea of doing 2 extra days may appeal much more to her than the reality when put into practice? wink

HollaAtMeBaby Sun 18-Aug-13 13:24:10

Only a British parent would worry about this! Let her do it!

Picturesinthefirelight Sun 18-Aug-13 13:26:02

Sorry you don't want to hear this but last year dd did a 7 day week including school, dance& rehearsals

However it is not a good idea todance7 days as the body needs a day off to recover.

chocoluvva Sun 18-Aug-13 13:59:19

Could you persuade her to ask for advice about whether it would be manageable from a dance teacher perhaps?

If you were to tell her you think it MIGHT be too much, but you're not sure so she should ask someone who knows about these things...... It might affect her dancing....

KatyMac Sun 18-Aug-13 14:30:29

"There is also a chance of course that the idea of doing 2 extra days may appeal much more to her than the reality when put into practice?" oh I do hope so Ipsumlorem

Pictures I know but try adding in GCSEs sad I just worry

Chocoluvva that sounds good & combined with a 'trial' might just work

I should chill shouldn't I, HollaAtMeBaby?

alreadytaken Sun 18-Aug-13 14:37:11

with most teenagers I'd assume "working" meant hanging out with friends but this sounds more organised. I'd let her try, if it gets too much for her deal with it then. Teenagers need to make mistakes sometimes and she will be on a train for hours so getting some rest then.

KatyMac Tue 20-Aug-13 17:32:55

I guess

We will see - at least for the first 6 weeks one weekend day is at home - rehearsals & 2 shows

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