What are Shisha Pens all about please??!!

(39 Posts)
trottingon Tue 29-Oct-13 18:42:33

The new trend among teenagers in this area appears to be Shisha Pens. I have tried to research them but it all seems to be marketing rather than impartial sound advice.

Friends of DS seem to be using them. Looks like a cigarette to me which is bad enough..... What's the score with these things?? Are they regulated....not that I would permit the use if they were.

Just need some good advice. I seem to be saying no to everything at the moment....Xbox games, shisha pens.....!! Bad mother!!

AlexaChelsea Tue 29-Oct-13 18:46:04

Um, they are shisha pipes in the form of a 'pen', like Ecigarettes.

So they only smoke water vapour, flavoured in the case of shisha, so not harmful. So I wouldn't have a huge issue with them, but I don't think it should be encouraged in under 18's.

AcrylicPlexiglass Tue 29-Oct-13 18:49:08

Definitely say no! Unless he smokes already and you'd like a safer alternative? They are electronic cigarettes. They contain nicotine and there is no research to say they are safe, though there is a wide-spread consensus that they are likely to be much, much safer than smoking proper. I love them but would never recommend them to non-smokers.

trottingon Tue 29-Oct-13 18:51:25

Thanks. Do you inhale the vapour?

lubeybooby Tue 29-Oct-13 18:52:50

the shisha ones don't contain nicotine

it's the actual e cigs that contain it smile

trottingon Tue 29-Oct-13 18:55:01

Is it widely accepted that teens use them?

AlexaChelsea Tue 29-Oct-13 18:56:23

They do NOT contain nicotine! Unless you buy proper tobacco for them, which you have to be 18 to buy.

You do sort of inhale the vapour, but it is literally flavoured water vapour.

YoureBeingAnAnyFuckerFan Tue 29-Oct-13 18:59:00

No nicotine in them. They give them out in lots of clubs. ( night clubs)

AcrylicPlexiglass Tue 29-Oct-13 20:44:06

Don't you fill them up like ecigs? With anything from 0% to 24% plus nic?! They look exactly like ecigs to me!

AlexaChelsea Tue 29-Oct-13 21:10:21

No, they are basically portable shisha pipes, not cigarettes at all.

They are also brightly coloured and vapour comes out. Ecigarettes are, well, cigarette shaped.

trottingon Tue 29-Oct-13 23:10:02

Still wondering if it's generally accepted for teens to use these?!

AlexaChelsea Tue 29-Oct-13 23:17:14

I don't know. They aren't harmful, but they do look a bit like smoking, so I guess it's personal choice.

A bit like those cigarette candies you used to get. Totally inappropriate really, for kids, but they were just candy.

JustAnotherFucker Tue 29-Oct-13 23:24:21

I think that teens using them will be trying to emulate weed smoking and not cigarette smoking tbh.

For that reason alone I wouldn't let a teen near them.

AcrylicPlexiglass Tue 29-Oct-13 23:28:17

Are these shisha pens, Alexa? Because if so they are exactly the same as an electronic cigarette and in fact I am using one right now! With nicotne in it.smile

AcrylicPlexiglass Tue 29-Oct-13 23:30:37

In other words they are electric cigarettes with 0% nicotine eliquid.

YoureBeingAnAnyFuckerFan Tue 29-Oct-13 23:31:55

Acrylic thats not the thing im thinking of but if its what op means then yes it looks like its an ecig

AlexaChelsea Tue 29-Oct-13 23:41:44

I've not seen ones like one before, yeah they look more like Ecigarettes. You can put tobacco in any shisha, but that's not the idea grin

And yeah, I guess you can put it like that, because you do 'smoke' them, so they are a form of cigarette. Not electronic though.

AcrylicPlexiglass Tue 29-Oct-13 23:47:07

My teens think ecigs are seriously uncool because I smoke them. Maybe they will catch onto the shisha pen craze and accept that I'm a trend setter and the epitome of an ubercool person. And then we can have the you don't do as I do, you do as I say conversation again.

Travelledtheworld Wed 30-Oct-13 06:02:15

I have worked in research into smoking and psychology.
Rituals such as opening packets, sharing, tapping, and hand to mouth gratification combine to add to the addition of smoking. Fake cigarettes and Shisha pens contribute to this.
Do everything you can to discourage this habit forming activity, though they will probably do it anyway, if they think it looks cool. After a few weeks the the novelty will wear off and they will either give up completely or move onto nicotine and/ or weed.

trottingon Wed 30-Oct-13 09:57:31

This is a tricky one...not that I have an issue saying 'no' but it is the whole 'what will it lead to' issue. It seems that the actual content of these things (if not tampered with) is innocuous. Thanks TTW, the psychology behind all this is very important!!

pod3030 Wed 30-Oct-13 10:01:48

where i am the straight e-cigs that look like cigs are considered un fashionable and the ones that look like pens are very much favoured. And they can be sold with nicotine. There's no distinction between shisha or cigs.

YoureBeingAnAnyFuckerFan Wed 30-Oct-13 10:06:02

Travelled thats very interesting. I hadnt considered the habits of smoking like that.

Based on nothing other than what i would have done as a teen i would say 'ignore' the use of them unless you suspect actual nicotine use. I say that because when my mum told me i wasnt to do something- i doubled my efforts to do it. If you let this fad burn out in its own time i'd say your teen will forget about it in a few weeks.

CointreauVersial Thu 23-Jan-14 23:51:14

I'm glad I found this old(ish) thread. DS (14) asked me about shisha pens just this evening, wanting to know if they were safe, because apparently there is a big craze in Y9 at the moment.

He's quite a cautious lad, luckily, and I'm pleased he came and asked for my advice before following the crowd, but I had to admit I knew very little myself.

I'm trying to impress upon him the foolishness of inhaling/sniffing/ingesting something you know nothing about. Regardless of whether or not it is "harmless" water vapour. Although, by the sounds of it, he might well come across the nicotine version.

Dp uses a shisha pen.

He was a smoker, then used a pen with tobacco and is now on 100% flavoured 'juice'.

It's kind of fascinating because there's so many options and flavours etc. Hes currently loving blue lemonade!

If your teen is 'rebelling' via shisha pipe then I wouldn't be too worried.

I think it's faddy. There's no harm done. I'd be pleased that they were doing that and even spending afternoons at shisha cafes rather than some of the crazier stuff that teens get up to.

OctaviusAce Fri 24-Jan-14 00:35:40

Wouldn't be at all worried. Better that they be a "rebel" using shisha pens than by smoking tobacco or weed. grin

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