Finally a new piggy tomorrow - any advice greatly received.

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Tomorrow i am picking up my new Piggy girl on long term loan to adopt if they bond - she is around a year old from the rescue and that all i know other than she came in a year ago from accidental re- population at a school. She is a lilac one apparently with ginger and white - im not fussy what she looks like but they are bringing one to meet me half way from the rescue that they have selected to be most likely to bond with my 6 yr old. Any tips on how to meet eachother. I have cleared out our shed now that the hutch is in, lino floored it and added a seperate corner with another hidey house igloo in it should the need space. Am mucho excited - she has no name either.

guineapiglet Thu 12-Sep-13 13:39:48

Aaaw, she sounds really lovely, do hope she settles in well.

I would definitely keep them separate for some time though, there is no reason they shouldn't get on, but equally there is no reason that they will either. Like us, guineas need time to get to know each other and may not instantly bond. Your older one may be very stressed by the new interloper, and likewise the younger one may be freaked out as well. Introduce them very slowly. Keep them separate but within sniffing and squeaking distance, and introduce them in neutral space which is not fenced off in anyway, so they can both escape and hide and and when they needed to. I have done this many times, and the secret is not to rush or get impatient, they probably won't share the same cage for some time, if at all. Ideally, I would let them have supervised free range time together in the garden if that is at all possible, to get used to each other for a while. You will have to watch them carefully together for at least a few weeks - give them separate food bowls etc.

One bonding tip is to put them in a neutral area, and give them a MASSIVE pile of grass/dandelions etc in the middle so they will be distracted by that. IF and and when they become agitated or aggressive, you need to separate them and then try again some time later.

It can be time consuming and frustrating, or it can be easy, alot depends on the nature of the sows, dominance type issues, territory issues, and animal instincts etc. Good luck. Look forward to hearing how it all goes grin

Ohh im am so excited and a little nervous - I have loaned a neutral outside run to plonk them in for supervised contact grin. Then im sort of winging it after then I suppose - the lady at the rescue said she thought based on my set up I could probs chuck them in together in the wendy shed with hutch open access as long as they had a igloo each to escape to - im thinking she is a bit optimistic there like and have a spare cage for night time sleeps on standby. We have a bowl each yes and igloo thingy . No idea what to call her - Matilda, squeak, poppy an dpippa are coming up tops at the moment unless the lady says she already has a name?

guineapiglet Thu 12-Sep-13 17:41:33

Nice names. Love Matilda!

Id be worried about putting them together to start with. I may be unlucky but have done this process many times and guineas have been aggressive. Would def let them get used to each others smell and sounds first. Dont use igloos as they can be cornered in them. Try shoeboxes with doors cut out!! It is a lot of stress for your elderly girl so i would go easy to start with.

Good luck smile

FernieB Thu 12-Sep-13 18:05:17

Also love Matilda. Take your time with them and I hope they get on well together.

i was thinking when i collect her to put her in a box lined with the fleece we pet Charlie in so they smell a bit of each other before the big meet or have i thought that out all wrong? Im thinking short tubes now in the run so two entry points. Oh the stress and to add to it DD likes Judy for a name confused. I will go into veg chop overload in the morning - think getting her about 11am eeek!

I think when they go in the shed tomorrow night if they not already been separated for hostility i will have Charlie in her hutch locked in and piggynoname in the new corner with her own igloo then we can do supervision time again on Saturday to see if we can get the love to grow.

Has the poor little soul been in Rescue all her life sad

WRT the meeting.
Neutral is best. So when you pick her up, pu her in a no-pig-smell box.

I brought my new boy home in a seperate box to GP1 ( plastic crates with locking lids and breathing holes. Newspaper and hay. The smell of the hay overcomes most things)
I bought a brand new paddling pool for their first 'play'.

When they go into their new house, then yes, have them in seperate cages but still able to see and chat with each other.

Make sure your new-no-named-girl has been treated for mites too.(The Rescue should do this before you get her).

You can try after a day or so giving the pigs some soiled bedding from each others cages (^nice^) grin

Slowly build up the contact. Let them pootle round in a paddling pool if you can.
Your older guinea might be a bit judgey at this new bright young thing but given time they should get along.
Just respect Charlies space and status. She'll be No1 pig for now but this might change over time.

she was born in a school where parents were wrongly sexed and populated then again and then the school sort help to sort it out and she is one of them - been in rescue a yr ish yes sad. I have just built a run so very new and neutral for the meet - ist tricky because id otn normall keep Charlie in shes a free ranger - she will prob be a bit peeed of suddenly In a piggy prison!

Charlie will be as judgey as blazes to lose her Free Ranging Freedom but her naturally inquisitive (Guineas are nosy grin ) nature and the introduction of a new piggie will make her think "Hmmmmm something going on here"

It will be strange for her to have a new cagemate but when I listen to my boys:

"Get out of the flipping way"
"You're not my boss"
"I'm your step-dad. And no, that's my parsley"
"Do you have to walk through the water bowl?"

"I'm going to popcorn , RASP "

At least they have someone to wheek to that speaks guinea. Even though half of what they say to each other isn't gentlemanly grin

FernieB Fri 13-Sep-13 07:51:48

Good luck today and i hope Charlie wakes up in a good mood and is prepared to be welcoming.

70 - mine only know bad words grin. At least yours are relatively polite.

she isn't happy about the rain so is staying in the shed at the moment - im off to Tesco to buy some veg treats then I will turf her out and clean the shed big time before I get the call for the pick up - i feel really nervous grin

im fashioning a tarp over the run do they don't get wet and even more peeed off!

FernieB Fri 13-Sep-13 08:44:24

I'm off shopping for pig veg too this morning grin. Cucumber should help them settle down.

i have parsley, carrot, cucumber and celery in my veg pot waiting - just cleaned out the pig shed and Charlie got out which isn't an issue because shes normally nosey and wanders back in mid clean but she is still awol angry.

So shes here and she is so canny - quite jolly, they have been in the run for 20 mins together so far - piggynoname has so far sniffed charlies bum and eaten grass, then she decided to go in the blue igloo at one end of the run - the green one is at the other end with the food bowl in middle - I stood up probably a bit to suddenly and Charlie dashed into it also where she stayed about a minute then came out to the food bowl leaving pigynoname - she has been to the door of the blue igloo where they wheeked at each other then Charlie backed away to the food bowl - all this time newpiggy is eating grass on floor of igloo (its floorless), Charlie has now gone in the green igloo for a rest and newpiggynoname has ventured out nicked some parsley and goneback in - shes not making it easy to take pics. Anyway she is a silvnabysinnian and although a yr old about same size as Charlie if not a bit fatter - Charlie has tried to make herself look fatter but now seems to have gone for anap hmm. I am sat on the patio freezing. When I do the schoolruni will be out an hour - do I dare to leave them in the run together . Awww shes sticking her nose out now and having a right sniff!

my description went wrong there - she is a cross between a silver fox and an abysinnian with black eyes - so grey and white really but not entirely smooth she has a bit of bed head star in her.

FernieB Fri 13-Sep-13 12:40:55

Am glad she's arrived and is eating. They should be okay for an hour - they haven't attacked each other yet so that's a good start. Fingers crossed grin

its just started to spit so rather than disturb them <massive fail> I placed a tarp over the top of the run at one end which made Charlie make a bolt for piggynonames igloo where they wheeked and squeaked and now are both in there together huddled up shock. I am on high alert but all seems very still - I think if I do go to school leaving them I will have to secure the tarp right across the open bit as mr magpie has just made an appearance.

Aww she sounds lovely and defo a Matilda It sounds like she can hold her own grin But would about Charlie? confused Should there be ding ding run 1 shock

I think I would bring them in anyway by then, it could be chilly.

run? round. I'm not myself today confused

mignonette Fri 13-Sep-13 12:47:51

I thought you were talking about a PIG grin. A lilac pig.

As an aside, my son works PT in a well known pet care store. he came home furious yesterday because a customer returned a newly purchased Guinea Pig because....her DD said the GP had an ugly face.

The staff were livid and took it back but refused to refund them. It will go into supportive adoption.

Some people shouldn't even be allowed to care for cuddly toys.

Ah, bless her. Charlie and no-name will have a few territory issues to sort through but it sounds like they are well matched size wise.
You might find a few shenanigans ( prowling, chasing) until they retire to their corners to suss each other out.
Charlies probably thinking "lilac = purple" and is most confused that she doesn't look like Tinky Winky.

mignonette - ugly faced guinea-pig . Words fail. angry

Though I have to say my boars match my IKEA sofa rather splendidly <<smug>>

well the lady said she was a lilac pig on the phone but she isn't well I don't think she is - anyway..... so I just took out the igloos to enforce some interaction and they ate together then Charlie started chasing piggynoname then I think it was Charlie was teeth chattering wheeking and staring at each other so I was ready with my towel, then Charlie seemed to go to nip at piggynoname , piggynoname shot off and nowen they both backed off - I put the igloos back in and they have gone back to grazing the grass along side each other in the run, I am very close by. Igloos have remained empty.

Shes really pretty smile, I wanted to put Charlie on the naughty step but aside from odd sniffing and occasional chase from Charlie they seem ok - Piggynoname makes running look effortless - I have an hour to go - im thinking I will let Charlie out the run for free range time and leave <possibly Sooty> in the run protected. Im going to upload a picture in a moment.

Pics are up, cant wait for dd to come in so we can have a piggy cuddle each - new pig went in her igloo, all happy then Charlie followed her in followed by a loud squeak then pigynoname came back out - love or no love? Anyway I will ease of with my piggy boreathon now grin

mignonette Fri 13-Sep-13 16:53:33

Not boring- i thought you meant the kind of pig that makes pork at first grin

I love pig threads (of the cavy variety).
It's always exciting to see a new pig join the SFA Team smile.

They'll take a while to settle noyou - you're putting two adults together so they'll need a while to 'gel'.
no-name is in a completely new environment.
Charlie is learning to accept a new pig into her house.

GP1 was a bit "Eh"? when our baby piglet arrived. He's noisy, popcorning, all over the place and now he's a teen, he's gone from scared little piglet to cheeky little devil.

(Can't believe we've had GP3 for 2 months now)

I can see your pictures now.
She's gorgeous (as is Charlie). It's good to see them eating (a positive piggie sign)

Your GP Lola looks very like my DD guinea GP1

alemci Fri 13-Sep-13 17:18:25

horrible about the returned pig. bet your ds felt like saying the gp probably thought the same about the woman's dd or is that me being naughty.

glad Matilda is settling in ok.smilesmile

mignonette Fri 13-Sep-13 17:48:48

Alemci My son was livid. Absolutely livid. He said he could barely speak to the woman and actually asked her if she was joking, he was so shocked.

Yes, ugly is as ugly does.

FernieB Fri 13-Sep-13 19:28:11

There is no such thing as an ugly pig - they are all beautiful. Can't believe that. What a lucky escape for the pig.

nonamepig looks lovely - very pretty colouring. She also looks as though she can handle herself - Charlie should watch out!

Well they have been settled in pig shed/ hutch for 2 hours now - Charlie is in the hutch in her igloo with the ramp down if she feels the need and piggynoname wavering between Sooty, Ginny and Judy at the moment) is in her igloo which is on the pig floor with a kind of igloo wall height wooden wall around her which also has an arch so she too can explore if she so wishes - both pigs have a bowl of food and water in their respective areas - I did debate taking the hutch out altogether tonight so they were both in cuddling distance of each other should they so wish. I don't thing piggynoname will be so bold as to climb the ramp for a cuddle. I worry they are both cold without each other to snuggle but ive filled their igloos with hay. They are bottomless igloos so not as heat reataining I think. I am clucking about fussing about them like a newborn mother!

mignonette Fri 13-Sep-13 19:33:46

That is what my son said Fernie. They do refuse to sell animals to some people. It is not a given but these idiots slipped through the net. My son goes in at 6:30 each morning to feed/clean/medicate if necessary all the animals. He adores it and regularly has a piggy popped down his shirt as he works (when the new ones come in they sometimes need a little more comfort) or he lets them snuffle about in the nursery room (where they spend the first few days)...They are all named after people. The one called Miley Cyrus apparently has a habit or rolling over and showing her lady bits to all and sundry grin....

alemci Fri 13-Sep-13 19:34:47

absolutely all piggies are gorgeous. your ds must have been furious.

could almost imagine the poor little gp chittereing "you ain't no oil painting either luvee". to the spoilt brat (imho) dd

hope gp has been rehomedsad

i agree a piggies are gordeous - dh was a bit hmm when I said I didn't know what our new piggy was going to be like look wise - I said the same well it will be cute no matter!

mignonette Fri 13-Sep-13 19:59:18

She has been made a fuss of w/ treats and cuddles. I did joke that maybe a few sessions w/ the psychothera-pig to address any self esteem issues might be useful (sorry for appalling pun, couldn't resist it).

Let's just say her 'story' has been featured prominently on the supportive adoption cards they prepare for future owners. I must admit I do wonder why the child didn't have that instant love reaction to a small cute furry creature.

Its Sooty grin

Welcome to Super Furry Animals then Sooty grin

mignonette Fri 13-Sep-13 20:46:33

Welcome Sooty. Will hopefully keep hearing of the adventures of...

Welcome Sooty grin It suits her. Beautiful ringed eyes. She reminds me of Fernie's Current Bun smile

Charlie is a lovely girl. You would never guess she is 5 years older .

FernieB Fri 13-Sep-13 21:08:23

Hi Sooty - nice name, although weirdly I was starting to like 'nonamepig' grin

grin Charlie is definitely over 6 now - I think she looks pretty awesome for her age, Sooty however, due to her colourings and bed head I think looks far more aged that a 1 yr old young thing!

Just gone to check on them, Charlie has come out of her hutch and gone down to the cornered of pen where sooty set up camp in her igloo - Charlie was in Sootys igloo and sooty was sat partially in a tube - i took the igloo out of Charlies hutch and also put it in this pen area because i felt a bit sorry for sooty and sooty ran into the igloo Charlie was in - they are both now together in one - i have closed pig shed after opening all windows and left them to it - when the sun gets round i will put them both in the run - i really want to train Sooty to be a free ranger like Charlie but worry she will run off lol - maybe its prison life from now on in - im off out with my mesh to see if i can fashion the run to attach to the wendy shed while they are leaning to love.

FernieB Sat 14-Sep-13 10:50:05

Sounds like they are at least tolerating each other at the moment. Hopefully they will be best friends soon.

fortified - she does have similar colouring to Current Bun, hopefully she will be as nice natured and gentle as he is (i.e. a complete pushover).

I had a proper good look at her this morning and a little cuddle - part of her ear looks torn with a bit missing - an old wound - maked me sad and wonder what kind of life shes had so far, she is very easily bpssed about my Charlie with still minor chasing then back to side by side munching - there out in the run now - water each, food each, igloo each. I could watch them all day grin

oh and after my cuddle I got hivey bumps all up my left arm because she had a slight nervouse scratch/scuffle as i put her down - they have faded after about 5 mins .

Do you know if Sooty had been kept with a load of other guinea-pigs or on her own/as a pair/trio?

Probably if she'd been a bonded pair pig they'd have wanted her re-homed with her cagemate (unless something happened to her cagemate)

She might have had to go from being in a huge group ( survival of the fittest. She might have been way down the pecking order)
It'll be weird for her to be in a onegrinne situation.

I've no idea what group my little boy was in - he was too old to be with his mum, so I'm hoping he was with a group of boarlettes not on his own. sad

But once they get themselves established the'll be fine.

We have two hay areas - the haybox and the trug. Usually they sleep in the haybox but seperate corners.
In the run we've got The Kids' Club - GP3 house and Adults Only - GP1 wicker house.
He sneaks in sometimes- then we see his fluffy little rump quickly reversing out as GP1 tells him "No" .

Rescue said she wasn't bonded just all chucked in together at a foster mummy who had loads too - neutered boys and girls then the night before she came to me she went to the main rescue overnight and was hoiked in with her lot so quite unsettling - I went in a bit ago and she had left the igloo she was in with Charlie and was back over other side of shed sat on the bare lino under the hutch looking all bewildered - I have shooed her back to the pen area and directed her to a igloo of her own so Charlie cant chase her out but they are still side by side - I went in after half hr and they were both still in their individual igloos - really hope they stay ther as I loaded them with hay - I feel like I have been doing a piggy return to bed type of controlled crying thing - nothing more I can do now if she comes out again and goes under the hutch that's that ive tried to make her warm and comfy.

Pop a bit of cardboard under the hutch so it's insulated if she wants to sit there.

It's all new for Charlie and Sooty (especially Sooty) so she probably wants to hide away for now.

I know that boars don't tend to cuddle so I don't mind that mine lead independant batchelor lives.
GP1 had his brother all his life now he has to get used to GP3.
But I'm really glad we got the little boy. He's a gorgeous little creature, sweet tempered but you can almost hear his brain whirring, working out his next mischief.

Ive just gone out again and she is still in her igloo so feel a bit happier about that but yes think I will set up a cardboard area tomorrow night just in case - it would be far more comforting if they were at least both locked securely in the hutch for the night but its early days I suppose. How long did it take before your pig accepted the little one ? I have just emailed the rescue to get a bit of background on her and advise really. If I was harsh id just lock them both in the hutch with one igloo! but im not....

GP1 had no choice really WRT accepting GP3 grin
When we got the baby he was six weeks and spent most of his time glued to GP1 side or under his belly .

On the first night, every tiny sound had him diving over to GP1.

Now, it's a bit more even sizewise. GP3 does still try to mount GP1 <<tsk>> .

But even if mine aren't best buddies, it's not a huge hurdle.
GP1 and his brother were a bit distant ,

But we notice GP1 gets fretful if GP3 (and when we had GP2) is away from him. He likes to know where they are.

I checked this morning early doors (ran out in my pj's in the rain) - they were both in an igloo each - but not the ones they started the night off in hmm. I am smile though that she isn't cowering under the hutch - maybe we are settling in - I think it would be nice if another two were in there with them shock.

I knew you'd be out at first light to check them wink
Did you keep waking and think "Oh I hope they're ok"

Are you thinking about getting another couple of hogs then , mmmmmmmmmmm ?

is it wrong I have an urge to own a Peruvian? grin

Yes very very very wrong. They are mops on legs grin

They are hard work. My pig (when I was in my 20s) was a black Peruvian . "Marmite".

She needed daily combing, and I kept her fur floor level especially round her bum.
Show guineas aren't trimmed they need paper rollers.

It sounds a bit mean but IMO the more 'fancy' a pig is the more they lose of their natural life.
My pigs run about in long grass and twiggy bits. Dive through hay. And clean their own fur though bath time is a neccessary evil << GP1 glares at me>>

When I see the huge fluffy types I think "Is there a GP in there"?

Satins have luminous coats but are prone to joint and bone problems sad

I'm seriously hoping that my GP3 is a Rex not a Swiss, the Rex coat looks less maintenance (though if he is Swiss, we'll keep it slightly trimmed for easy care.) At the end of it, he's GP3 not a show pig.

OK Rant over.

GP1 says big golden agouti smooths are the ONLY pigs to own.

grin at mops on legs - your totally right its impractical I wouldn't have time some days to groom - I do love the bed heady ness of my newbie.

Aw she's got a lovely little fluffy standy up bit on her head and a 'ridge' down her spine from her photo.
And she has the most amazing eyes.

(But d'you know Agouti Boars just need a wipe with a damp flannel - according to GP1 ) grin

Sooty is back sat under the hutch so ive put a towel down for her with some hay on and moved a giant tube near her too - seems content enough. I have always avoided boars neutered or not because I read something about impacted bottoms and having to help remove it and that just makes me heave grin

FernieB Sun 15-Sep-13 17:55:47

I found out about impaction once my lads had moved in confused

70 - I'd love to watch you attempt to give GP3 a trim grin

I thought my GP2 would have impaction but he popped out his Ferrero Rocher poohs with great aplomp wink

FerbieB if he's a Rex I'm home and dry .
I cut his claws once skin is juuuuust starting to heal.

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