my Guinea pig has had a baby

(47 Posts)
FrameyMcFrame Sun 17-Feb-13 18:51:35

And now she is trying to have another one but it's not coming out so DP and DD have just taken them up to the emergency vets. We thought we had two girl Guinea pigs...

FrameyMcFrame Sun 17-Feb-13 19:17:25

Oh no she died at the vets sad
Vet said she had a stroke. Now we don't know what to do with the baby. DD is heartbroken.

FrameyMcFrame Sun 17-Feb-13 19:18:04

Vet is not sure if it will survive without the Mum

FrameyMcFrame Sun 17-Feb-13 21:09:57

Baby has come back. The vet thinks that he/she has been alive for about 3 days but just hiding in the little house with the Mum.

Curlybrunette Sun 17-Feb-13 21:28:52

Oh no Framey I'm so sorry :-(((

I have no advice wrt babies but wanted to send a hug for you all. Really hope he baby is ok, lots of food, warmth, I'm thinking alfalfa, not sure why think I may have read it somewhere?

Keep us updated
x

Framey that is so sad. Poor guinea , and your DD having to see this.
Did the vet give any advice - like a milk substitute to feed the piglet?

One advantage of baby pigs over most other rodenty types, is that they are born furred, teethed and open eyed. And they can eat when they are literally days old.
If you haven't got milk, try sloppy pellets mash and a small feeding syringe .
Or even a small spoon.
Tiny chopped up vegetables.(Even puree some veg maybe)

Alfafa hay is good for pg pigs but is quite high in calcium.

Did the vet manage to get any fluids into the baby pig? Give it a head start?

Very sad.
Good Luck.

As I'm posting at silly o'clock you've probably not awake. But I have been doing some reading on Rodents with Attitude forum and the advice is offer goats milk or banana complan every 2 hours including through the night. Let baby lap off a spoon don't syringe feed, it could go into the lungs. You will also have to wipe its bum with a damp cloth to encourage it to poop.

This is such a sad situation to be in sad.
Good luck.

FrameyMcFrame Mon 18-Feb-13 10:22:55

Hi thanks for the messages.
The vet gave us this paste and a syringe and we have managed to get the little one to take a tiny bit. Didn't realise that the syringe could be dangerous, vet didn't know much, he was looking up what to do while we were there. He said it wad the first guinea pig orphan he had looked after.
He also told us to keep the baby away from the Dad pig but I have put them in together and watched them carefully and Dad has taken on a mothering approach. The baby is following him around everywhere and they are snuggling up together so it seems counter intuitive to separate them.
Just worried that baby doesn't know how to drink from the water bottle.
Re what to feed her/him, I also read you could give kitten replacement milk but then read that wasn't a good idea somewhere else. The stuff the vet gave us is called Exel fibrevore recovery paste.
Thanks

FrameyMcFrame Mon 18-Feb-13 10:24:59

I'll have a look on the rodents with attitude website, thanks

MrsSpencerReid Mon 18-Feb-13 10:29:58

I clicked on this thinking yay! Babies! And now I'm crying in Tesco cafe!! Damn pregnancy hormones, go little one!!! Keeping my fingers crossed for you both

MsBrown Mon 18-Feb-13 10:31:21

Hi Framey.

I bought two female guinea pigs several years ago from a 'well known pet store' (i was totally naive to it all at this point).

Little did i know that one of the guinea pigs was pregnant when i'd bought her!

I came in from work one day and there was a tiny little baby running around the cage after her mummy.

No mess whatsoever.

Baby suckled on mummy for around a month, as well as eating veg along with its mum and 'aunty'.

I eventually had to rehome all three guinea pigs, but i'm in touch with their new owner and they're all fit and healthy and no more babies.

http://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/showthread.php?1778-What-s-the-best-substitute-for-mother-s-milk

According to this link, baby can survive without mum. Just make sure its getting AlfAlfa hay. The greener the better. Baby piggies are so cute. Sorry for your loss.

FrameyMcFrame Mon 18-Feb-13 10:33:20

Also the baby is trying to eat fresh grass that I cut from the garden. Daddy pig loves that so hope it's ok for the baby too. <worries>

FrameyMcFrame Mon 18-Feb-13 10:35:16

Right, alfalfa hay. Will pets at home have that? I will go up after lunch.

MsBrown Mon 18-Feb-13 10:50:38

www.petsathome.com/shop/timothy-hay-1.8kg-by-alfalfa-king-36642

This is the one i fed my newborn guinea pig for the first month. Bit expensive though. The staff at Pets at Home told me they just feed their newborn guinea pigs normal hay, same as the adults.

But without mum's milk, i'd be extra careful and opt for the green stuff for the first few weeks at least.

alemci Mon 18-Feb-13 11:05:37

Hope the baby is ok. sorry about the mum - really sad. I think the advice here sounds very good. I have syringed fed older guineau pigs. you could try the spoon - probably obvious but just keep everything clean.

good that the dad is looking after the baby

have had 3 baby gps too and they became independent quite quickly but mum was still there.

Paste feeds will be fine. They come in special click dispencing syringes so you cann't overdose. I haven't used Excel but I have used fibreplax after my piggies have had surgery-- so I assume it's a simpler thing. It's liquid feeding that is dangerous.

Get baby sexed as soon as possible. You don't want dad impregnanting baby. As long as dad is being fatherly and not aggressive let them stay together. Baby will learn what foods are good from another piggie.

I got 2 sows approx 4 months from a pet shop. At first the only veg they would eat was carrot angry. But when they saw what Old Boy was eating they tried new things smile. Now they are up for trying something new remembers Old Boy shuffling off muttering about new fangled veg. Old Boy did not take kindly to Lambs Lettuce hmm.

damppatchnot Mon 18-Feb-13 11:28:53

Don't let the baby have too much grass as it can cause bloat

I have an orphan at the moment and she is being fed with a bottle with cat milk for newborns

It's the best thing to give the baby and it will suck the teat so the flow won't flood the lungs

It can eat hay and veg but will need milk for 3 weeks

Hope all ok

FrameyMcFrame Mon 18-Feb-13 11:44:09

I will ask about the kitten milk and the bottle at pets at home when I go.

MsBrown Mon 18-Feb-13 11:57:00

Framey, if your local Pets at Home is anything like mine, the staff won't have a clue!

Your best bet for advice is probably independent pet stores, if you have any near you. They'll at least know what they're talking about.

GinGuzzler Mon 18-Feb-13 12:04:28

Oh how sad... Glad the dad is protecting it though, without being gross the mammy pigs eat any afterbirth which is why there would be no mess MsBrown I bred guinea pigs years ago we never had an orphan baby but we did have several runts over the years and we found dandilion leaves never caused bloat and yes to kitten milk either out a bottle or a small syringe. Hope it goes well xx

Oh sad

Try and find the phone number of a guinea savvy vet and call them- they will at least know what they are talking about. P@H will more than likely have no idea. sad

Oh sad

Try and find the phone number of a guinea savvy vet and call them- they will at least know what they are talking about. P@H will more than likely have no idea. sad

FrameyMcFrame Mon 18-Feb-13 17:16:38

Right, well I spoke to the lady at local guinea pig rescue. She said not to syringe feed unless the little one goes downhill, causes pneumonia too often. She also suggested alfalfa hay plus grated veg like peppers carrots and spinach. I've done that and got the alfalfa stuff and little one is tucking in!
I think he/she is going to be ok, fingers crossed.
Thanks for all the help and advicesmile

KRITIQ Mon 18-Feb-13 20:25:16

I'm so sorry to hear about what happened, but it sounds like the bub is holding his/her own. Best of luck!

MrsSpencerReid Mon 18-Feb-13 22:25:26

Go baby!! Does s/he have a name?

FrameyMcFrame Tue 19-Feb-13 08:43:02

DD has called her/him Midnight smile
I've taken some photos but I don't know how to put them on MN...

FredWorms Tue 19-Feb-13 21:47:12

Oh I do hope this has a happy ending, it sounds as though you've done really well so far, and how heartwarming that the male has taken to the baby.
Good luck! smile

Dragonwoman Wed 20-Feb-13 01:08:45

If you can find someone who has a nursing sow, she may accept the orphan, although I would supervise and remove the baby after it has fed in case she takes against it. Sows often suckle each others babies when in family groups but it may be worth a try with an unrelated sow?

guineapiglet Wed 20-Feb-13 10:45:17

What good advice about trying to find a nursing sow, you may be in luck that way, - it might be worth contact local vet or guinea rescues locally to see if they know of one I really hope the little guinea is keeping strong, you have all been through a horrible time with the Mum, so really hoping he is managing to eat and drink what you can give him. Thinking of you smile

FrameyMcFrame Wed 20-Feb-13 18:45:43

Hi, update on Midnight.
He/she is doing fine, eating loads of grated veg and Alfalfa hay which she loves!
She has also done some wees and poos which is a good sign I guess.
She hasn't worked out how to drink water yet though which is a worry. We tried with a teaspoon and jam jar lids with water in and we've rigged up low water bottles but no luck so far.
Hopefully she's getting enough moisture from the grated carrots and peppers.
I hadn't thought about a surrogate mum actually, spent ages on the phone with the lady from local Guinea rescue and she didn't mention having any nursing sows though.
Fingers crossed little one will be ok. The vet said 3 days after Mum had gone would be the danger time and we are sort of there now and baby is hopping around ok.

Thanks for all the support! smile

Framey it sounds like Midnight is doing really well.
That's the beauty of guineas over rabbits. They are so much more advanced when they're born.

If he/she is eating veg they'll be getting some moisture. You should always have water on offer anyway (though my adult boys never drink it).
Midnight might copy the adult male.
It would be ideal if Midnight was a boar piglet and could stay with your adult boar permenantly. Otherwise would you neuter the boar (because he would have no qualms about mating with his own piglet when it's old enough) hmm

Would the local guinea rescue have a look and see if you've got a boar pig?

To add to that - 3 weeks is the age they can breed from....so be careful! Or is that just boys?? Still - they can breed vair young!!

Also cucumber is good for water - juts a little though!

Glad to hear he/she is doing well!

KRITIQ Wed 20-Feb-13 20:14:30

Oh, things are looking good. Fingers crossed for all of you and well done for all your hard work. Also hope wee bub is a boar so father and son can hang out together. It should be okay to leave baby with dad up to 2 weeks and by then, you should be able to tell whether it's a he or she. Good luck!

FrameyMcFrame Wed 20-Feb-13 20:17:49

Cucumber, good idea.

I'll have to take her/him to the vets at 3 weeks to check but I might ask the lady at the rescue place because she seems very experienced. Hopefully Midnight will be a boy, but otherwise Luigi will have to go for the op ASAP

FredKiller Wed 20-Feb-13 20:19:52

Go Midnight!

We unwittingly bought a pregnant guinea pig once and came home to a little piglet one day. Mum was obviously an extended breastfeeder though, her nursling fed for months, even after she grew bigger than her mum and sort of had to lift her up with her head to get at the good stuff. grin

FrameyMcFrame Mon 11-Mar-13 00:00:45

Just thought I'd update you on Midnight, she is over 3 weeks old now and doing very well.. She's MUCH bigger and has learned how to drink from a water bottle, eat dry food and go upstairs in the cage.
smile

Still18atheart Mon 11-Mar-13 00:04:07

Oh that's such lovely news. Thanks for the update.

How is she doing without mummy?

PuffPants Mon 11-Mar-13 00:14:32

So it's a she? Are you having the father neutered? You really don't want any more surprise babies!

guineapiglet Mon 11-Mar-13 20:33:16

Really pleased to hear Midnight is doing so well, you have done a tremendous job raising her by hand, would love to see some photos!

Do hope she continues to thrive, she will need to be very well insulated tonight, brass monkeys here at the moment sad

CooEeeEldridge Mon 11-Mar-13 20:44:33

Very sweet thread! I'm glad midnight is doing well!!

MrsSpencerReid Tue 12-Mar-13 00:00:56

Thanks for the update, have been wondering how midnight was getting on smile

Areyoumadorisitme Tue 12-Mar-13 07:50:26

Fantastic, you've done a great job smile. Well done!

FrameyMcFrame Sat 16-Mar-13 15:24:10

Hi, thanks for the messages. Today we will be finding out if she is a girl or a boy...but I have taken to calling her she/her...
Wonder if my instinct will be right!
I'll post later and let you know!!!
I will put a photo of her on but I do't know how to do photos on Mumsnest.

smile

FrameyMcFrame Sat 16-Mar-13 18:26:41

It's a girl!!! I was right.
Now Luigi will have to have the op sad

stewartlaura67 Mon 18-Mar-13 12:54:16

Ooh I’m so sorry. Hope the baby is fine.

Aww poor Luigi will be losing his 'nads (ouch) but on the plus side-
he'll be gaining a lovely companion
and he'll be much less likely to get impaction in later years (bonus)

FrameyMcFrame Wed 20-Mar-13 23:28:03

smile

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