Sour Crepes

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QueenQueenie Thu 24-Apr-14 22:42:20

Well someone had to do it....

Stropperella Thu 24-Apr-14 23:02:51

Bah, it's true - I am well sour: missing 2 meet-ups in a row. [envy

CointreauVersial Thu 24-Apr-14 23:04:19

Checking in, but off to bed. I am well overdue an early night. Laterz.

NearTheWindymill Thu 24-Apr-14 23:11:42

marks place

lalsy Thu 24-Apr-14 23:34:26

Good thread title, I am very sour! BTM, thanks, I can't get away tomorrow (and am really quite sour and grumpy at the moment). Have a lovely time, crepeys, and I hope to come next time (I used to go to Waterloo place years ago).

bigTillyMint Fri 25-Apr-14 06:41:51

QQ , yes, definitely drinking before eatingwink

Shame you can't make it Lalsy.

DD fell asleep on her bedroom floor last night - was flat out when I went in at 7pm, DH couldn't wake her and was in her bed asleep in full uniform when I went in at 9pm - I am hoping that she slept the whole night through....

bigTillyMint Fri 25-Apr-14 07:39:29

Yay! She slept the whole night and asked me politely for help this morningshock!

Auriga Fri 25-Apr-14 07:51:03

She needed the sleep smile. DD stayed up stupidly late and slept in almost on principle in the holidays but it doesn't suit her. When will she realise? Probably in her 50s

Blackduck Fri 25-Apr-14 07:54:46

Marks place - see you later crepeys - I shall be the knackered looking one (not sleeping) with sore feet...

NearTheWindymill Fri 25-Apr-14 08:01:33

I've about 10 minutes to decide whether to drive to work this morning and drive home at lunchtime or to contemplate catching a bus. I topped up Oyster last night so it is a hard choice.

I'm old and knackered too. I'll be wearing a purple cord coat btw as I won't know who I'm looking for - I think I've met BTM before.

beachyhead Fri 25-Apr-14 08:11:28

Morning, sorry to be missing the meet up tonight. Judging from the quantity of rain that came down last night, I might have to swim out later!

hattymattie Fri 25-Apr-14 08:13:17

hello sour crepies - checking in and marking place.

RudyMentary Fri 25-Apr-14 08:25:36

Thanks for thread QQ.
BTM - I'm sure half my DDs problems are tiredness. She needs much more sleep than her brothers do.

I pushed myself too hard on my lady jog last night and feel drained this morning. I need to do some work really to prepare for next weeks onslaught.

Wish I was coming tonight. DH announced this morning he's coming down to London today do I could have travelled with him.

wilbur Fri 25-Apr-14 08:39:41

Have a lovely time tonight, ladies, sorry I won't get to meet you windymill - another time, I hope.

Crem - filming is for an online viral advertisement thing for the States I think, but hopefully we'll get to see it. Our house is quite American in style so we get the odd location person coming round who is looking for that. We have had one short film shoot here which was hilarious - I cleaned up the main rooms like a mad lady and when they arrived to recce that said it was a bit too nice and they were looking for something shabbier, whereupon I was able to take them upstairs and show them the disastrous bathrooom and a range of peeling paper, damp stains and elderly carpet. They loved it grin. And thanks re AirBnB, that would be brilliant. My advertisement is not quite done yet (waiting for better photos) but will pm you a link when it's done. BTM - we used to rent out our spare room on AirB&B at our old house after our lodger left and it worked really well (spare room was in basement away from rest of bedrooms). Here we have a little garden studio with a shower room which is habitable in the summer, so this is the first time we have tried it for guests, we'll see ow it works out. It is very nice to have some extra pocket money.

wilbur Fri 25-Apr-14 08:41:34

Ruby - my dd needs more sleep than the boys, always has. She had a sleepover on Monday night and is still being a bit of a moose. Although that could be hormones which I think are starting to kick in.

herbaceous Fri 25-Apr-14 09:05:14

What ho sour ones. My reason for sourness is that DP is having not one but TWO (2, ii) lovely meals out today - lunch at Yauachta (sp?) and another one somewhere lovely this evening, while I will be eating leftovers. On the plus side, the leftovers include a pear and ginger crumble he made last night. On the downside, I was aiming for a low-carb day.

Also sour as feel utterly shafted. Not sure if it's to do with starting exercise again, which seems to make me feel more knackered than energised, or possible anemia. The inside of my eyelids have absolutely no colour, and I believe are supposed to be vibrantly red.

I wish we had a spare room and more than one loo. Having people to stay over is a logistical nightmare, and I fret about not being able to access the lav in the morning. IBS... TMI...

RudyMentary Fri 25-Apr-14 09:09:52

Herbs - pears, crumble? That would be an IBS nightmare for me!

RudyMentary Fri 25-Apr-14 09:13:46

That's really interesting stuff about your house Wilbur.
You've got me intrigued re: American Style.

Also interesting about sleep and your DD. It's been very tricky for us as they've been growing up (not helped by the fact that her twin brother needs the least sleep of all) as it was always impossible to get her to go to bed earlier than them.

herbaceous Fri 25-Apr-14 09:19:24

I never know what sets off my IBS. I know curry and wine don't help, but are frankly worth it. I suspect refined wheat is not great - when I don't eat bread, I'm a lot better gastrically speaking.

Blackduck Fri 25-Apr-14 09:21:11

Ds is very much like me... Likes an early night and an early morning! So at the moment is absolutely knackered as he has spent 7 days with his owl of a cousin...
Wilbur I am curious about the house! (Has dp emailed you?)

wilbur Fri 25-Apr-14 09:23:35

Ruby - ditto! Ds2 who is 2 year younger than dd, needs very little sleep (he is actually some kind of perpetual motion machine, scientists should study him) and if he goes to bed too early he's up in the night, ready to party. At the moment, we manage to get them to go to bed at the same time but I imagine that will be harder and harder to enforce when she goes to secondary next year. The change in her temperament when she is tired is grim, even dh, who spends a lot of time wrapped around her little finger, says she's a 'mare when sleep-deprived.

American house was built in late 50s but someone who had clearly been inspired by the USA houses of the time. It's our little piece of Los Angeles in Streatham.

Right, better crack on, I have to do laundry now.

herbaceous Fri 25-Apr-14 09:31:36

I'm something of an owl, whereas DP is of the lark persuasion. DS seems, luckily, to have fallen between the two stools and tends to go to sleep about 8, and wake up about 7. However, this may of course all change. I'm hoping he tends towards the later rising!

Talking of 'stools', did I tell you about an old lady acquaintance of my mum's, who whenever using a word that had even the slightest chance of a double entendre would say 'excuse me' in front of it. For example "falling between two 'excuse me' stools", or "I'll hang that picture on the chimney 'excuse me' breast". Thus rendering perfectly innocent words rude, and making her attempts to be demure actually making her look like a right old perv.

Still a favourite game chez herbs.

motherinferior Fri 25-Apr-14 09:44:45

Hello lovelies.

I'd forgotten perhaps because I wasn't listening that DP has gone to Luxembourg today (why? WHY? I definitely wasn't listening). He won't be back till at least 7, so that really does mean I think I can't come out.

Also, in all honesty, I am feeling a bit skint.

wordassociationfootball Fri 25-Apr-14 10:21:52

I love your (the, our) new title QQ.

Why don't DC get themselves enough sleep when they can, in the main, unlike like us meerkat crepeys, get said sleep like falling off logs? Rant over.

Feel the need to report that I started my adventures in HRT yesterday. I will update. When DH came home, I was mid prolonged, hysterical laughter bout reading brilliant texts from parents to children. He seriously thought that the crying spluttering, honking laughter was the result of taking one tiny estrogen pill hmm

hattymattie Fri 25-Apr-14 10:25:00

I am definitely a daytime person - not early morning or late at night. I don't usually sleep in after 8 am though. DD1 is your regular party girl and with all the stress of exams I suggested some vitamin B6 - she thinks I'm trying to dope hersmile.

Cremolafoam Fri 25-Apr-14 12:45:07

Afternoon sourpusses. Just bookmarking.
Wilbur viral ad sounds interesting and a bit of fun. Do you have a clap board stylee property? I am thinking of Martha Stewart grin

< wonders about renting out dds room next year for crepey trips to Wilbur's lodge>

hattymattie Fri 25-Apr-14 12:50:46

Wilbur your going to have to put of photos of your house. Word - loved the texts.

hattymattie Fri 25-Apr-14 12:51:32

ahhhhhh - "you're" not your!

bigTillyMint Fri 25-Apr-14 13:12:01

Sympathise with all those who have DD's who need lots of sleep. DD has always needed more than DS and is waaaaay grumpier with not enough sleep. However, she is now unable to get to sleep at a reasonable hour and finds it very difficult to get up for school (and coaching on Saturdays!) and sleeps till lunchtime on Sunday's and in the holidays.

I have no trouble falling asleep (very early!), but am often woken in the night/very early by the radiator DH and his heavy breathing. I also like to be on my own for at least half an hour first thing in the morning!

motherinferior Fri 25-Apr-14 13:22:09

DD1 is particularly awful if underslept.

beachyhead Fri 25-Apr-14 15:25:02

I feel like I've been doing IT all day. Phone crashed and needed to be restored, lots of updates seem to co-incide and we can't get some videos off a memory card, which is driving ds nuts!
dd1 is having a free makeover at the moment. Our local town is doing a fashion show tomorrow and she has been asked by my hairdresser to model for her, so hair and make up done for free today and clothes by Jigsaw tomorrow, apparently. Five catwalk shows up and down the high street (pedestrianised grin) tomorrow..... she's desperate for no-one she knows to come or walk past, but she wanted the free dip dye!

Have fun tonight - like Rudy, my dh is in town tonight. I won't ask him to drop in!

bigTillyMint Fri 25-Apr-14 15:31:41

Ooh, how lovely for her! Is it a semi-permanent dip-dye? DD would like that!

CointreauVersial Fri 25-Apr-14 17:57:04

Re: sleepers - it's DD1 who needs her sleep in this house. When the other two are tired, they just go all drowsy/yawny but DD1 turns into a cantankerous cow. For years she had the same bedtime as DD2.

It used to make me laugh when she was a toddler - she'd announce "I'm going for a sleep" and march upstairs to her cot. At that time, most of my friends were having daily battles with overtired nap-refusers.

Have fun this evening, crepeys. smile And have a good weekend. Ours is mercifully free of commitments.

RudyMentary Fri 25-Apr-14 18:17:58

Cheers Crepeys smile

Just poured myself a G&T and toasted the crepey meet up I'm settled down nicely in front of the wood burner.

hattymattie Fri 25-Apr-14 18:40:26

ooh Rudy that seems lovely and cosy, wish I had a wood burner. I have had a glass and a half of rose and am awaiting DH I can move to red. Going to snuggle up with a box set of The Good Wife tonight.

beachyhead Fri 25-Apr-14 18:48:27

Ooh that does sound nice Rudy. The dip dye is ok but not really dramatic enough for her. She went down to Jigsaw and they've put her in 'a really frumpy dress, like you would wear mum' so she's really annoyed with them! And put her in flats, as she couldn't walk in the shoes they gave her...grin

hattymattie Fri 25-Apr-14 19:05:52

Beachy - this happened to DD2 - she had her hair and make up done beautifully but they gave her a dress she hated and I had to agree with her.

beachyhead Fri 25-Apr-14 19:59:00

OK, I've now pressed further and just to show you how deluded the yoof are, this is the dress. It's gorgeous, and it shows at 16, you don't have a clue.....

I'm looking forward to seeing it now. I have told her to shave her legs though!

herbaceous Fri 25-Apr-14 21:24:56

What a bizarre Friday night. Sitting in front of computer, trying to swot for my PGCE interview, and feeling daunted. Dinner has been bowl of pear and ginger crumble. I have no wine. The cat is driving me mental by jumping on the desk, over the (tottering) intray, on to the printer, then on to my lap, where he kneads and twirls and fiddles, until I throw him across the room, whereupon he starts the whole rigmarole again.

Hope the available crepeys are having a lovely time. I'm not at all jealous. Oh no.

CointreauVersial Fri 25-Apr-14 21:36:39

Bloody hell, Beachy, that dress is far from frumpy.

I'm well used to my DDs making gagging noises if I buy clothing they don't like. The most recent being my Warehouse kimono cardigan.

As an aside, isn't Gogglebox hilarious? grin grin

RudyMentary Fri 25-Apr-14 21:45:32

DD will look lovely beachy.

I never understand 'we have no wine'
We always have wine

I'm glad we have an enclosed woodburner. The dog is sprawled out in front of it and farting so much that an open fire may result in a fireball! grin

herbaceous Fri 25-Apr-14 21:48:33

Having no wine was a deliberate post-Easter drying out move, but I am now of course regretting it. I'd have a gin and tonic, but we have no gin. Or, indeed, tonic.

Is gogglebox on now? I'll go and sprawl in front of the telly and marvel at the silent emo boyfriend who creeps me out.

wilbur Fri 25-Apr-14 22:23:23

Beachy, that dress is awesome and I bet your dd looked a complete knockout in it.

Wordassoc - I love the texts, I haven't seen those ones before but I have a book of them which always makes me snort. Ds1 loves them too as it shows how sad and useless parents are.

We also have no wine, but have compensated by dh inventing a new cocktail called the Slow & Bitter. Gin, Sloe Gin, bitter lemon, lemon bitters, lemon juice. It's bloody marvellous.

Hope the meet up crepeys are having fun - I'm off to bed now.

CointreauVersial Fri 25-Apr-14 22:27:49

Oh, we have wine. Lots of it. All in good spirits here - no wood burner, pear crumble, or farting dog, but the house is tidy, the weekend is here, the wine is flowing, and there is no football to get up early for tomorrow. Happy days.

herbaceous Fri 25-Apr-14 22:41:01

Watching goggle box on +1, and inert emo hair boyfriend hasn't displayed a flicker of animation, even during film of bunny death and a giant scrotum. Is he stuffed?

bigTillyMint Fri 25-Apr-14 22:45:29

On the bus home, hic. Had a lovely evening with great companysmile

Don't understand the concept of no wine either!

QueenQueenie Fri 25-Apr-14 22:53:47

Lovely evening out in excellent crepey company... those who couldn't make it were sorely missed.
Thanks for organising us BTM, thanks for giving us a good excuse for a get together BD.
Good weekends to everyone.

herbaceous Fri 25-Apr-14 23:25:20

I have learned my lesson. Never again shall the house be wine-free on a Friday night. It is not Proper.

QueenQueenie Fri 25-Apr-14 23:27:19

We were talking about that silent emo boy this evening Herbs, "the one with the thatched hair"!

Blackduck Sat 26-Apr-14 07:47:35

Yes BTM many thanks for arranging - you are a star!

Auriga the first if many beef wellingtons ;)

Windy nice to meet you - longer next time?

Packing for the trek home.

hattymattie Sat 26-Apr-14 07:55:40

Dress lovely and not frumpy at allshock. Glad Crepey sortie was a success.

Stropperella Sat 26-Apr-14 09:51:55

Glad to hear the crepey crew have been caning it again smile No wine here last night either. Dh had to be up early this morning - and "early" is generally a totally alien concept to him - to go to a recording studio with his band. He was all excited. grin

Ds returned at about 4.30pm yesterday from a busy 3-day outward-bound trip with the school. Knackered and filthy, obviously. And highly contemptuous of various members of his class who had done "screamy crying" at various points. Dd insisted on coming to pick him up (awww) and the dog was ecstatic to see him again. Dog spent a lot of the last 2 days standing in ds's room with his tail down, shaking and making an odd "meeeooooooaaaaaarrrrrrr" sound. I understood this to mean "the boy is lost and gone forever. Oh woe!" Ds had to drag himself out of bed early this morning as he is doing a puppet-making workshop for something connected with the local arts festival. Have just taxied him there and returned to a) exercise dog and b) take dd to her lifesaving class.

Any ideas about what to give the man who has everything for his 80th birthday? Budget - somewhat restricted. He has a house full of books, a cellarful of wine and doesn't like frippery.

Stropperella Sat 26-Apr-14 09:52:35

ps: Your house sounds fabulous, wilbur! Hope the film crew are behaving themselves smile

Stropperella Sat 26-Apr-14 09:54:02

pps: I actually quite agree with beachy's dd about that dress. But otoh am not much of a dress connoisseur..

motherinferior Sat 26-Apr-14 10:00:54

I had a stupid row with DP about orange juice shockand really should have come out rather than sulk and fall asleep deliberately on the sofa.

bigTillyMint Sat 26-Apr-14 10:03:14

Yes, looking forward to Auriga's beef welly blog!
Surprisingly unhungover here. Really enjoyed last nightsmile
Addle, what was that book you were recommending (sieve for brain - will PM you and BD about the apartment now!)

Strops, awww at dog. And sis! Was snurking at an "oldies" jazz band (who were very good) on the Charles Bridge in Prague and thinking of all the DHs of friends who play in bands!

Beachy, the dress is lovely and I bet she looked fabulousenvy

Just caught up with a friend in the gym, had builder round to quote on kitchen and am off to meet a friend for coffee and it's only 10am!

QueenQueenie Sat 26-Apr-14 10:12:00

Go BTM. Impressive!

Feeling spritely here too. Lovely to see everyone but sorry I didn't chat to you Addle and Windy more before you went.

Stropps, there's nothing as tragic as a miserable terrier - mine does a very good end-of-the-world-hangdog thing if something terrible happen to her like everyone else going out / being made to have a bath etc etc.

Told you to come out with us sorry to hear about miserable evening MI but interested in how you can have an argument about OJ...

bigTillyMint Sat 26-Apr-14 10:16:56

Have tried to send link but on DHs IPad.....

bigTillyMint Sat 26-Apr-14 10:18:13

Oh missed that MI! Yes, you'll know better next time!

Blackduck Sat 26-Apr-14 10:22:34

OJ? MI - seriously? We need detailsgrin
I am tres packed train (it goes to Oxford so is full of tourists and no seat reservations - I am brazening it out!)
MI that'll learn you grin

I am tired but not hungover - BTM if I owe more money let me know!

RudyMentary Sat 26-Apr-14 10:42:34

Aaawww at DDog Strops

Made a discovery last night. I always sleep terribly after G&T (racey heart etc) but as I didn't follow with wine I was fine! This has cheered me no end.

I'm preparing brunch for all those going off to swimming/rowing/footie/cycling and then going for a run and meeting a friend for coffee.

DH is flying to Miami tomorrow and currently moaning that upper class was full so he's only travelling premium economy......... poor lamb hmm
I'm taking the piss being suitably sympathetic.

motherinferior Sat 26-Apr-14 10:43:34

Oh god. OJ row: this is mainly because in frugal/cheapskate fashion I have switched part of our inordinate food spending to Aldi rather than Ocado. Thus Aldi (perfectly drinkable) juice rather than pricey organic juice. Nipped to Aldi to do supermarketbloodyshopping after supper. Shelves uncharacteristically bare, and the only OJ was made from concentrate.

At this point I recalled (a) discussion at some point with DP where I swear he said the insistence on non-concentrate juice is a fabrication (see previous refs to DP's manly insistence on the fact his A level zoology trumps my 10 years as a health journalist) (b) recent childish strop from DP when I bought other sorts of juice but no OJ (apparently this signifies not noticing his habits and desires and so forth shock). So I went for the concentrated option. Doesn't matter to me - I've stopped drinking the stuff in drive to cut out a bit of unnecessary sugar..

Apparently this was the Wrong Thing. And part of my ridiculous cheapskatery, indication I do not care about his feelings etc etc. Voices were raised. I pointed out I am not responsible for Aldi's shelf- stacking glitches. He said he'd never wanted to switch in the first place....

He did apologise profusely this morning but it was bloody stupid

RudyMentary Sat 26-Apr-14 10:46:19

Oh Crem - purple mascara is L'Oreal. I love the colour but unsure about the formula.

RudyMentary Sat 26-Apr-14 10:48:03

Xpost MI - what a palaver!
DH buys his own OJ grin

hattymattie Sat 26-Apr-14 10:51:11

MI smile we did have similar some years back over cooking oil - when DH came back with peanut oil when I have only ever used sunflower. n

I'm afraid for orange juice we only ever buy Tropicana or there are complaints.

Blackduck Sat 26-Apr-14 10:53:12

Dp knows that if I shop he'll eat what is there. He's actually very easy going in that respect ((but we have to hide ds's nice biscuits or he scoffs them all....)

I am planning a quiet couple of days - laundry and a tidy and getting ds ready for school.

bigTillyMint Sat 26-Apr-14 11:01:59

We had an OJ watershed moment in Prague when DS actually drank OJ with bits in it, having always refused to toyuch it with a barge-pole!
I only buy Tescos bog-standard at home as a litre goes in a day between my twoshock

motherinferior Sat 26-Apr-14 11:31:02

Otoh Dd2 v pleased with a selection of packed-lunch-friendly items grin - all easy to assemble herselfgrin

Blackduck Sat 26-Apr-14 11:35:05

Now there's an idea MI!

motherinferior Sat 26-Apr-14 11:43:05

Oh and Stropps, my sister and I are sorting one of those personalised family tree pics you can get on notonthehighstreet for my father's 80th at the end of May (cue family get together of hair-raising horror - my sister's lovely partner has managed to wangle an invitation to a talk in Baltimore envy )....

hattymattie Sat 26-Apr-14 12:31:10

DD1 and her boyfriend are making us a curry for lunch. It is 1.30 and they have only just put the rice in. Dh and I meanwhile have had a large aperatif and may be totally squiffy by the time they serve.

CointreauVersial Sat 26-Apr-14 13:12:43

Poor little Stropdog. grin And how about a little hamper for the 80yo with everything?

It sounds like you all had a fun evening except MI

We've had a relaxed morning, with no football commitments. I made Blueberry Pancakes and we are shortly off en famille to Kingston. DS has been forced to accompany us, having revealed (on the first day back at school after two whole weeks off, naturally hmm ) that his school shoes are effectively backless. And he needs shorts - I bought him FIVE pairs last week, and he rejected every last one. angry So if this summer you see a lunking great teenager on the beach in Cornwall sweltering in jeans, that'll be him.

bigTillyMint Sat 26-Apr-14 13:41:19

CVgrin DS is quite keen on Primarni shorts - both the jogging bottoms type and the chino's type, which is just as well as they are cheap and he keeps growing like a weed!

Hatty, hope your curry has been served now!

herbaceous Sat 26-Apr-14 13:41:32

Gibber. I am working on my PGCE presentation and interview, in a state of panic and fog. I haven't had an actual interview for anything for about six years, and that was a quick chat in a restaurant, I was the only candidate, and it was for a job I knew I could do, and had indeed been doing for years.

A few kind people have said 'just be yourself, your personality will shine through' I fear a few jokes won't be enough to disguise the fact that I haven't got the faintest idea what I'm talking about.

hattymattie Sat 26-Apr-14 13:52:12

Herbs just be yourself and try to be calm and unflappable - easier said than done I know but they are looking for teachers who can manage children now showy off business types. Can BTM not give you a couple of pointers?

Curry was served and excellent - boyfriend lovely and quite chatty - always good with our family. Unfortunately he is going to uni in Holland and DD in the UK so not optimistic for their future longevity.

herbaceous Sat 26-Apr-14 14:00:32

Ooh yes... Calling BTM. Calling BTM.


hattymattie Sat 26-Apr-14 14:07:35

I mean "not" showy off business types, sigh.

addle Sat 26-Apr-14 14:12:59

BTM - the examined life by stephen grosz - brilliant

what's all this about beef wellington?

think dress is fab but not good for teens so am sitting on fence and agreeing with everyone

herbs - you will be great, honestly but agree with asking btm

herbaceous Sat 26-Apr-14 14:19:41

Nerves not helped by it being a tube strike day, meaning I have to get a complex assemblage of trains and buses to Bloomsbury, all of which will be packed and possibly not letting me on. I have one hour and 10 minutes to do the trip, and TfL journey planner's lowest estimate for the journey is 1 hour. Not leaving much room for error.

I also have to do a PowerPoint presentation. I have a mac, they have a Windows PC. I forsee IT issssues.

Auriga Sat 26-Apr-14 14:24:54

Addle - I attempted Beef W at Christmas with mixed results (delicious but looked odd) so ordered it last night on waiter's rapturous recommendation. It was inedible: I actually sent it back. QQ has issued a BW Challenge, as I claim to have learned from my mistakes but have never put this to the proof grin

Sorry I had failed to grasp that you and Windy needed to leave early, feel as though I hardly saw you. Was lovely though.

RudyMentary Sat 26-Apr-14 14:28:47

What did you lot do to Windy?
She's not showed up on here yet today.

Herbs - no advice and I can completely understand why you're stressing but I hope it all goes ok.

Curry sounds good hattie, although I struggle with curry at lunchtime - it's strictly an evening thing for me.

SheherazadeSchadenfreude Sat 26-Apr-14 14:30:51

Beachy, DD1 said that dress would be popular with girls her age at school, but is not the sort of thing you can wear if you have big boobs, as it would just hang and make you look huge all over.

We are back from IOW. I would have had a much nicer time if I had gone on my own or just with DD1. DD2 was an utter pain - didn't want to leave the hotel room, wanted to watch Anime films on her phone or talk to her BFF in Texas. It peed down all day yesterday which didn't help matters, or my temper. Once the phone had been removed, and the shrieking ceased, DD2 became better company, and our day in Ryde yesterday was not too bad, despite the relentless, driving rain. Oh and DD2 lost her Oyster card at some point, so we are making her pay for a replacement <cruel mother>. And we walked back from Waterloo (which only takes around 15 minutes, but there was much moaning).

I am going out tonight, with Brussels friends, without DH or the DDs, to see the London Gay Big Band (one of them is playing).

RudyMentary Sat 26-Apr-14 14:30:54

Shame about your BW Auriga.
I've never cooked it.

DH cooked a normal beef joint Easter Sunday in a very strange way but it was delicious, although the price alone made my eyes water.

SheherazadeSchadenfreude Sat 26-Apr-14 14:49:44

I have never cooked Beef Wellington on principle, as whenever I ask DH what he wants for dinner, he says "Beef Wellington."

SheherazadeSchadenfreude Sat 26-Apr-14 14:51:04

Is Windy necking the Alka Seltzer and vomiting into a bucket, saying "Never again" and "Fuck those Crepeys"? grin grin

Stropperella Sat 26-Apr-14 16:37:47

BTM, I have that Steohen Grosz book and have read it. Let me know if you want me to bring it to the next Crepey meetup.

Herbs, they will probably want to know how you will deal with people who have had pretty negative experiences of the education system and who won't necessarily be appreciative of your efforts, so good to have a bunch of answers up your sleeve for those kinds of scenarios. Also, maybe it helps to remember that in a sense you are also interviewing them - to get a feel for whether this is indeed what you want to do.

SheherazadeSchadenfreude Sat 26-Apr-14 16:40:31

Friend has cried off sick tonight, so won't be going out. sad DH doesn't want to go. Don't want to go on my own. sadsad

NearTheWindymill Sat 26-Apr-14 16:56:15

No. I've MIL here. DD's theatrical extravaganza this weekend. Haven't stopped since 8ish except for a sly latte in Ely's after Sainsburys and just by chance they happened to have some lovely sandals in wink. Laundry (tick), shopping (tick), put aways (tick), just throwing food together! Can have wine when we're all home at 10ish grin.

herbaceous Sat 26-Apr-14 17:00:12

I have learned from last night's debacle, and we have wine. But I cannot drink it until I've performed an errand.

DS's latest obsession is Lazy Town, and in particular the lead character Sportacus. Those of you with older children will be mercifully oblivious to this person. Anyway, DS came and lay down next to me this morning, folornly noting 'I wish I might have a Sportacus costume'. He doesn't usually ask for anything, so I put a shout out on our local sell and swap group, and lo and behold, someone local has a veritable Sportacus costume! And the arch villain, Robbie Rotten!

I'm going to collect them tonight, once he's in bed, so they're here in the morning as the best surprise ever. If I can keep off the wine that long...

SheherazadeSchadenfreude Sat 26-Apr-14 17:07:34

I am about to hit the gin. Hard.

DD1 has just informed me that at her school, the girls have to do their own laundry, but the boys get theirs done for them until they are in the sixth form. shockshockshock Are we still in the 1950s, and has modern life passed them by??

Stropperella Sat 26-Apr-14 17:23:31

MrsS, re: school laundry - that is vvv wrong.

Stropperella Sat 26-Apr-14 17:24:08

Herbs, ds still treasures his tiny Sportacus slipper socks. I have not been allowed to recycle them. Yet.

SheherazadeSchadenfreude Sat 26-Apr-14 17:24:55

I've asked DD1 to clarify that this is indeed the case with the Head of Boarding, before I sound off!

Stropperella Sat 26-Apr-14 17:26:03

Also, ds developed a great love of having his hair cut when he was a toddler because "his" hairdresser looked like Robbie Rotten and was also really called Robbie. And was happy to act like RR for his young customers grin

Stropperella Sat 26-Apr-14 17:27:40

MrsS, I am just shock x1000. Seriously.

Blackduck Sat 26-Apr-14 17:27:44

MrsS you are kidding.... Seriously?

motherinferior Sat 26-Apr-14 17:36:01

Am shock at laundry.

I have exported one child for sleepover and gained another for ditto. This is ok as visitor child is a delight and she and DD1 are making cookies.

Have purchased the new Eucerin tinted facial sunscreen and will report back. Also bought new pants, of the small black lacy bikini variety which mortified DD2 in M&Sgrin

NearTheWindymill Sat 26-Apr-14 17:44:10

The air on that roundabout turns them all slightly mad Mrs S wink. It's the fumes converging up from the M25 as they hit the A road!

I am having a little surf in the bedroom lest I strangle MIL before DH gets home from sodding rugby. It has taken less than 48 hours to do her "well YOU are practical in every way unlike any of my children who all went to university". One day, just one day I will say "such a shame that neither SIL1 nro SIL2 have ever had a proper fucking job then".

Have just laid up a spread because of the toings and froings here of ham, parma ham, salami, anti-pasti, nice bread, chicken drumsticks, salad, cake, etc. She's just said "are we all eating together or shall I have to serve myself". Yes love, just for once do it yourself rather than be waited on; I've told you five times that's how we're doing tea/dinner/supper today.

Still not back from rugby - we are leaving in 30 minutes angry

bigTillyMint Sat 26-Apr-14 17:47:27

Here I am! I have to say I haven't done an interview in 10 years and I am primary (it's adult literacy, isn't it?), but I am happy to help! Will have a think!

MrsS I am seriously horrifiedshock

Thanks Addle! And Stropps - I am going to try to find it on Kindle first!

Have just been to friends fundraising cake sale, where chat with a friend descended into us discussing our menopausal woesgrin

hattymattie Sat 26-Apr-14 19:36:32

Mrs S shock at the laundry story - do check it's not a wind up by DDbthough.

Beachy your DD is beautiful and the dress is also lovely.

motherinferior Sat 26-Apr-14 19:53:20

Windy, DP's lovely mum - who was truly admirable in many ways <grits teeth> never missed a chance to mention my age. In a sort of "how brave you are defying all obstetric and gynaecological odds in reproducing at 37 and 40" way. Er, just rub it in that it's taken me roughly 10 years longer than I planned to find a bloke willing to have kids with me, why don't you...

She also clearly thought I was a huge great heifer for weighing more than 8 stone. Which is at least an improvement on my mum who thinks anyone over 7 stone is repulsively obese, I suppose.

Did I mention we're visiting my parents tomorrow grin?

bigTillyMint Sat 26-Apr-14 20:18:24

Friends have just phoned to invite us for an impromptu drink which is, of course, lovely even though I was just settling down infront of the TV.

Strength Windy and MI!

motherinferior Sat 26-Apr-14 20:24:35

I have a pile of gory novels (charity shop this pm) and a glass of wine. DP is sorting out DD1's eye-watering phone billshock so I am left gloriously alone grin

Blackduck Sat 26-Apr-14 20:25:09

Ohh windy you will so fit in with us crepeys who have dmums/mils who drive us bonkers!!

Auriga - many thanks for the chat last night - been thinking on it much re mum.

CointreauVersial Sat 26-Apr-14 23:39:57

Courage, Windy....actually, my MIL never speaks, just sits there passively, which I think is even worse.

We had a lovely day in Kingston; all missions accomplished, obligatory trip to Tiger, and we even managed to kit out the notoriously picky DD2 with some summer clothes including a gorgeous dark denim jacket from Gap that I rather wished was available in my size. We finished with a burger blow-out at Byron, where the bill topped £100 shock shock That's why we don't eat out often. I look back wistfully to the days when they all had kid's meals at £5 a head.

Funnily enough, at Clarks we were directed to the Children's Department, even though DS is a size 7 and taller than me. I'm guessing the equivalent shoes in Men's would have been more expensive, so I wasn't complaining. But he did look a bit out of place squeezed on the bench next to all the toddlers. grin

I might get up early tomorrow and go to the local car boot. If it's not raining....

CointreauVersial Sat 26-Apr-14 23:43:00

Oh, and Herbs, I hope your little Sportacus is delighted with his new costume. smile

NearTheWindymill Sun 27-Apr-14 00:16:57

Well we've been home for about an hour. DD is triumphant. MIL is behaving acceptably in private and in public. I'm on my third glass.

Have to be up at 6 to prpeare a decent lunch. Am head sidesman tomorrow ( Big church so a two hour job). My mother and step will arrive at about 10.30 - before I get back (for the matinee). I am looking forward to the clash of the titans. The mothers haven't met since dd christening. Ballerina turned vamp -v- wannabee actress turned Sunday school teacher. Both 77. Deep joy ahead. [Hmm].

Was lovely to meet you btw - just launched into a rather demandin w/e. Contemplated having Monday off, bt MIL doesn't leave until midday!!

motherinferior Sun 27-Apr-14 08:22:08

I am chivvying various people into getting up (to be fair DP is better at getting up than I am) and preparing to see my parents.

RudyMentary Sun 27-Apr-14 09:00:24

Your weekend sounds hectic Windy!

Have a nice day at your parents MI

DM is cooking me dinner today. It's such a long time since she cooked for me smile

DH has left for the airport and I notice his bike and toolkit are still in the hallway<<sigh>> I'm about to deep clean and reseal the tiles in our shower as it can't be used for a few days after sealing so it's a good opportunity to do it whilst he's not here.
Living the dream hmm

Blackduck Sun 27-Apr-14 09:29:46

MI - good luck!

We are planning ds's birthday. I was a bit hmm when one possible suggestion was met with 'oh I don't think x would like that' from the mother - erm it's ds's party - your child either comes and does what is on offer, or doesn't come!! Sheesh....

I have hoovered and tidied and now need to get ds ready for school on Tuesday - a bit of a full non week here work wise.

herbaceous Sun 27-Apr-14 09:40:18

DP downstairs tackling the kitchen (he also cooked dinner last night, and made gingerbread men with DS, so top marks), while I have another bash at the PGCE stuff.

DS absolutely LOVES his Sportacus costume. The first thing he said when he got into our bed this morning was 'If I had a Sportacus costume, I could run soooo fast', so imagine his amazement when there, laid out on the hall floor, was that very thing!

He put it on straight away, ate breakfast in it and is now watching Frozen. Again.

SheherazadeSchadenfreude Sun 27-Apr-14 09:41:26

CV - is your MIL Irish? I have a friend with an Irish MIL, who never speaks either, and also eats her meal separately from everyone else in the kitchen, then clears up, does all the washing up on her own and makes tea for the men.

bigTillyMint Sun 27-Apr-14 09:53:59

Herbs, do you know what kind of thing they will be asking you? I can think of scenarios you might be asked about for primary, but adults???? And awww at MiniHerbs in his Sportacus outfit.

Windy, your weekend sounds gruelling! Rudy, ever the domestic goddesssmile

I had two separate conversations with friends suffering with menopausal symptoms yesterday. I am now wondering if I have a flashing light over my head "mad menopausal woman" but glad I consuls share their pain!

Am contemplating a trip to Johnny LouLou's for my free cake and coffee to peruse their amtico/kitchens, etc, etc...

herbaceous Sun 27-Apr-14 09:54:43

My MiL is Irish. She is not remotely silent. But she is a bit prone to excessive solitary toil in the kitchen, despite repeated offers of help.

bigTillyMint Sun 27-Apr-14 09:56:54

Consuls? Could. Bloody iPad!

herbaceous Sun 27-Apr-14 09:59:41

Ah, BTM. I have to do a five-minute presentation on literacy teaching, but think that's OK.

The interview is more terrifying. The only question I know they're going to ask is: "Give an example of how you reflect on your practice in your current role." Which I'm assuming is new-fangled management speak for just keeping abreast of changes in your field, taking note of new ways of doing things, etc.

I'm assuming the rest of the questions will be about why I want to be a teacher, what makes me think I'll be good at it, how I'd deal with disruptive pupils, etc...

bigTillyMint Sun 27-Apr-14 10:09:17

Reflective practice in teaching is about looking at how your teaching is going. So assessing how well a lesson went and trying to identify why that was - self, pupils, resources, appropriate objectives, starting from where the pupils are and building on prior knowledge, etc, etc. And then thinking about how you could improve on it for the next lesson. It is about analysing your practice and then incorporating new or different ways of doing things into your practice so as to affect positive change.

It is adult literacy that you are interested in Isn't it? Or have I got that wrong?!

herbaceous Sun 27-Apr-14 10:18:10

That's right! The course is 'post-compulsory PGCE in literacy and ESOL'.

Ah yes. That's what I thought re 'reflective practice'. From googling it seems to be a long-winded way of saying 'learning through experience', but formalised. I'm finding it quite hard to get my head around all the new jargon I'm going to have to learn/speak. The last 25 years have all been about plain English and stripping out all that kind of malarky...

bigTillyMint Sun 27-Apr-14 10:36:25

Nooooo! Don't let the jargon take over - plain English is what eye want! And that will be relevant to teaching adults.

motherinferior Sun 27-Apr-14 10:44:03

I have spent most of the car journey to Norwich realising with cold horror how much work I have to do in May. And that May means NOW. It's because of this daft bint designer who thinks she can work with a newborn. So we're having to produce an entire charity mag in a month. I am losing out on this considerably as am buying in help to push it through..

RudyMentary Sun 27-Apr-14 10:47:59

<<waves to MI as she travels by>>

I remember when you were worried you wouldn't have any work MI
You can do it x

Blackduck Sun 27-Apr-14 10:55:41

MI - one bite at a time... You'll be fine.

Herbs - yes don't get caught up in the jargon, be clear and concise.

I need to decide whether to finish third (poison chalice/slayer) application or not
I think I've decided haven't i? hmm QQ come and slap me round the head smile

herbaceous Sun 27-Apr-14 11:15:27

Don't do it, BD. I've no idea what the job is, but if it seems like a poisoned chalice now, I'd imagine it will be a total nightmare when actually in the job.

QueenQueenie Sun 27-Apr-14 11:18:09

Puts down megaphone and advances on BD with a damp kipper
As you were...

Blackduck Sun 27-Apr-14 11:44:13

Damp kipper?!? Where did you get a damp kipper on a Sunday morning QQ?

bigTillyMint Sun 27-Apr-14 12:48:20


Have stuffed down a lovely slice of carrot cake as a reward for braving Primarni (much nicer than a damp kipper on a Sunday morning I always think) and am relaxing before I visit the flooring/kitchen departments

wilbur Sun 27-Apr-14 12:53:45

Morning all. Love the Sportacus costume, herbs, you get a whole stack of mum points for sourcing that one smile. MI - hope your day goes ok and I'm sure you'll manage the May work deluge, at least dds are back in school and so there are fewer childcare issues.

Shoot yesterday was good and they were all very nice. We camped out upstairs a bit, playing Grand Turismo and eating stuff dh has brought back from Borough Market. It was actually quite fun. They're back tomorrow to finish off. AirBnB people also arrived mid-shoot and were a bit baffled, but nice about it. They are here for a whole week so I am stressing that they will go a bit stir crazy as the room is pretty small for two for a week. Praying for good weather so they can sit out, but not sure prayers will be answered. Ds1&2 both away all day at rehearsals and Mercedes World respectively, DD is revising, and dh is building the rest of my new garden seat. I am just heading out to do a spot of gardening before the rain starts again.

In S&B news, my major purchase this week is a pair of these beauties grin. Life may be chaos, but I will cope because I have Batwoman pants...

bigTillyMint Sun 27-Apr-14 12:55:59

Love em wilburgrin

Cremolafoam Sun 27-Apr-14 13:28:27

Aw herbs is ds still being Sportacus?
We have the company who makes Sportacus coming to film at work in a couple of weeks. grin
Ddad is so much better. He has been given warfarin and the diuretics have him back to normal size. He's tired but better than I've seen him for months.
Mrs s , I'd be going to the papers about the rampant sexism at school.
Really despicable.
Glad the meetup went well. I was with u all in spirit as I met a lovely friend for wine on Friday night. Suffered through a 12 hour shift yesterday - horrendous hangover. shock
MI hope the day progresses civilly chez parents .
Rudy , that's the one I was looking at re lavender mascara. Think I'm going to go for navy again though.confused I think the colour might get lost on me.
Today I will be mostly : launderingsad

bigTillyMint Sun 27-Apr-14 14:14:48

Thats great about your DDad, Cremo.

I have a huge pile of ironing waiting for me at hom.e

Have any if you got Amtico/Karndean/other kitchen flooring that you would recommend? My brain can't cope with all the choices.

Auriga Sun 27-Apr-14 15:09:43

Glad to hear about your Dad Crem.
BD, you know you don't want that job.
BTM, excellent summing-up on reflective practice.

re: kipper - DD was telling us about a school assembly on Valentine's Day traditions in different countries. They mentioned Finland and she thought 'ooh, I know this'. She was thinking of the Monty Python fish-slapping dance blush. There are some aspects of her education that we haven't neglected.

motherinferior Sun 27-Apr-14 16:21:09

Auriga is spot on. BD, if it looks like a poison chalice think kipper.

I have survived my parents mainly through the ingestion of alcohol. Will not be working tonight as originally feared I would have to do. This is however not solely because of prosecco but because I spent this morning writing myself notes for another feature (because charity mag is not my only priority), and also requesting an extra hundred quid to buy in a bit of help with mag to handle the emergency. Which has come through. Hurrahgrin

Cremolafoam Sun 27-Apr-14 18:15:45

I am now worried about cremolacat 1.
He was always a porker and now is getting thin and whiny. He's only really licking the gravy off the food.but ALWAYS is asking for food.
I'm worried he might have teeth issues? What do you think?confused

SheherazadeSchadenfreude Sun 27-Apr-14 18:27:03

How old is he, Crem? Is he drooly? (And very glad to hear your DDad is on the mend.)

BD - step away from the poison chalice...

I am bracing myself for a telephone call to my mother tonight. We are going over there next Sunday, I think, as it's her birthday... I will see how unpleasant she is to me tonight before I commit.

Blackduck Sun 27-Apr-14 18:27:40

I am loving the poison chalice = kipper
Makes me grin

Lovely curry here and ds ecstatic with his (cast off) iphone3 ......

Birthday is Warwick castle with a small group of friends.

Cremolafoam Sun 27-Apr-14 18:36:04

He's about 9 mrs s. No drool. He looks shiny and fit tbh. There's just something has changed about him. He is a bit bullied by cremolacat 2 , a proper little madam who is a bit spoiled due to her good looks and hilarious cute antics. Could he be a bit depressed ? He's very needy.

Bd move away from the Kipper job. I should know , I've had a few.grin

Auriga Sun 27-Apr-14 18:49:46

Aurigacat was always whining for food and not eating it. She did turn out to need dental treatment and she also had a huge hairball (sorry if tmi).

Don't think cats have much depressive capacity meself grin and even if they do, it doesn't put them off their food grin grin

motherinferior Sun 27-Apr-14 19:07:55

I have to say I feel cats are lacking in what one might call hinterland. Depression does not figure much in their lives.

Blackduck Sun 27-Apr-14 19:13:52

Me too Cremo - bear some scars.....

herbaceous Sun 27-Apr-14 19:17:08

He could have worms, or fleas. Herbcat 1 perked up greatly, putting on half a kilo, when Herbcat 2 met his maker. But that's a bit of a drastic option.

Herbcat1 has put on further heft after having his teeth sorted last year (swollen head incident). He's still hideously needy, having to sit on me at ALL times, and is fussy about which particular vile cat food he'll tolerate. Some he'll only lick the gravy from.

NearTheWindymill Sun 27-Apr-14 19:30:44

I bet it's teeth too but could be thyroid related in a 9 year old cat. I'm afraid it sounds like a question for the vet. Ours is better than the doctor btw and I'm often tempted to ask if they could have a look at a dodgy this or the other.

Stropperella Sun 27-Apr-14 20:14:21

Dogs definitely have the capacity for getting depressed and can go off their food when miserable. Stropdog pretty much refuses to eat when left in kennels.

Today has been an exercise in keeping everyone calm. Dd is wound-up because her GCSE art exam takes place all day tomorrow and Tuesday and she is busy coating the entire house in little pieces of paper and cardboard in frenzied preparation. I might ask why this preparation is being done now, but that would be, er, counterproductive. I had to tell dh to wind his neck in this morning because he was going to rage at her for telling ds to "shut up". I could see that one false move was going to result in an almighty meltdown, so I got everyone to be busy elsewhere and leave dd to her own devices. I don't usually believe in walking on eggshells to avoid a confrontation (there's been a bit too much of that in previous lives), but it was undoubtedly the lesser of 2 evils today.

Ds and I took Stropdog for a walk into town, which never usually happens. This is because Stropdog is not a town dog. He is over-excitable and cannot walk in a straight line and is interested in everything. He rushes up to shop windows and stands on his hind legs to look in. This morning, he was particularly taken by a jewellers. hmm He will also randomly wee on just about anything, including people he doesn't like the look of, so much vigilance is required. He also shouts at me when things are getting boring and grabs the lead in his teeth and drags me off in a different direction. This is him in late middle age (9) - so the much calmed-down version. And yes, he has had some training. He just chooses only to remember it when he feels like it.

We have had a whole bunch of client emails today. Does no one take a weekend anymore? I am feeling stressed as I had the week planned out workwise and suddenly it's all changed. A client's mother died yesterday, so the job I was supposed to do a part of has now turned into me doing the whole of it, as it was naturally incumbent on me to offer to do so. This is fine and doable (just). But now another 2 clients have come with other jobs for the end of the week and I have to work all day Friday in school. Dh has not had a weekend off for sometime, as he managed to cock-up by taking too much on and had to work through Easter weekend as well as the previous one. Something's gotta give. I also have to make a bunch of phone calls to make regarding possible work in other areas for long-term plans and I haven't been able to make any headway with that stuff. Grrr. Feast or famine etc etc.

In other meh news, dh has a large lump in the middle of his abdomen. Which he's known about for a while, but not done anything about. I'm telling myself (and him) it is most likely some kind of hernia-type thingy, but have made him a doc's appmt for Tuesday. It came to light because he had an uncharacteristic anxiety attack on Easter Saturday when he suddenly became convinced that he has an aortic aneurysm, thanks to a private health test flyer that came through the door.

Soz for mega-post.

motherinferior Sun 27-Apr-14 20:29:08

Oh Stropps. I feel a small amount of your pain and sympathise about the rest.

Is there any scope for buying in a bit of assistance - if client will cough up - as I've done? I found just deciding to hive off a small but fiddly bit took a huge weight off me; and also means I can take on anything that might come in suddenly at a really good rate too. A call to a friendly colleague might be in order?

wilbur Sun 27-Apr-14 20:37:09

Stropps - sorry to hear dh has further health woes, although it does sound like a hernia (much more common in men in the abdomen). Glad you've got a dr appt for him. Hope your dd is ok tomorrow and Tuesday - I remember the frantic prep for art O & A levels, and the bliss when it was all done. Roll on Wednesday!

Just about to get horizontal in front of antiques roadshow, utterly knackered.

motherinferior Sun 27-Apr-14 20:46:45

DD1 is on for intensive G&T art. I foresee major tantrums ahead...

I can't actually figure out DD1 academically, I must say. She's improved dramatically in maths and seems to be a bright all-rounder and in all the top sets but at the same time never seems to come top in anything. She is also socially competentshock and so far unwracked by angst and misery.

I suspect she is exactly the sort of person I wasn't at schoolgrin

Stropperella Sun 27-Apr-14 21:06:13

Your dd1 sounds like a star, MI. There are, I believe, plenty of teens who do not specialise in angst and misery or crucify themselves with self-doubt. It may well be that she is one of them. smile

My CBT is currently causing me to feel that I have been stuck as a 15 year old for many decades. It would be rather fine to leave the angst, misery and self-doubt behind at some stage. Preferably before my dcs actually become more grown-up than I am. blush

Dh is adamant that he can deal with the two extra jobs that have come in today. I hope he knows what he's doing (doubtful). I think he has proved to himself a few times lately that his days of working until 5am ought to come to an end.

I'm also currently dithering about several jobs that need to be done to the house and we ought to get on with organising whilst we have the cash to pay for them. I have a to-do list about 3 pages long. I think I need CV to come round and sort it out for me. grin

Thanks to whoever suggested the hamper of goodies for the 80 year old I need to buy a present for. It's my uncle (I bet I asked for advice last year too, he's sooo difficult to buy for). I think I will be able to put together a hamper of all sorts of local specialities which will appeal to him. The book of family pics would be a great idea, but it's already been done.

SheherazadeSchadenfreude Sun 27-Apr-14 21:08:45

I am having a Sunday evening to myself, as DH has taken DD2 back to school. I took DD1 to Waterloo - she kept saying on the bus that she didn't want to go back to school, hated it, etc etc. Then spotted a friend from school at the station, rushed off, and that was the last I saw of her - the two of them chatting, smiling and getting on the train. confused

I called my mother - she was positively pleasant. shock Her elder brother has just been diagnosed with lung cancer. sad So that's two of my uncles and one cousin with cancer, none of whom have a particularly good prognosis. We need a nice new baby or a wedding in the family now - something cheering.

I have made a huge loaf of bread, and the cats are curled up together, sleeping prettily, which makes a nice change from fighting.

I have been stalking DD2's deviantart account on t'internet - found a raft of stuff I hadn't seen before, and she had commented "this is some of the stuff I am preparing for GCSE." Oh good. I worry that DD2 is a little too like me - coasting through, doing the bare minimum, although her teachers seem to think otherwise, thankfully.

bigTillyMint Sun 27-Apr-14 21:09:09

Oh god Stropps, it's all happening, isn't it? Fingers crossed you/your DH/DD don't blow a gasket.

MI does your DDs school do class position too?

So glad we don't have a pet - I can barely keep up with everything as it is.

SheherazadeSchadenfreude Sun 27-Apr-14 21:22:54

Yes, Stropps, fingers crossed and thumbs held for your DH.

Class position?? Didn't that go out in the 1950s? confused

Stropperella Sun 27-Apr-14 21:23:11

MrsS, that is pretty shocking about your dm being pleasant grin Sorry to hear about your uncle, though. You are very overdue for some happy family event. Hope you are taking good care of yourself, too. How is your back?

I do hope that dd does alright in her exams, as between all the strops and drama she has actually done a lot of work. It would, of course, been better if she had consistently applied herself for the last 2 years and not just since about November, but at least she is taking it all very seriously. Dd's school doesn't officially give out class positions but the teachers have often told her how she is doing in relation to the rest of the class. She usually only mentions it to me when she is in the top 3. grin I have furnished her with Rescue Remedy chewing gum for use during the exam tomorrow and Tues (does that stuff actually do anything? I'm hoping for some kind of panacea effect...). On Wed she will be trying to get her final bit of ICT coursework done as the final deadline for that is Thurs. <rolls eyes>

motherinferior Sun 27-Apr-14 21:26:34

DD2 does that with music, MrsS. Coasts along convincing her teachers she practises...

Not class position, BTM, but they do get certificates for achievement. DD1 has received precisely one (1, I) for drama though does occasionally also get postcards congratulating her on various subjects. Mostly languages and English.

I do love DD1, who is possessed of considerable personal charm; she is also very good at dealing with her father when he is grumpy. He is currently stomping round the house because the car is due for what Herbs' old lady would call 'excuse me' servicing and he can't find the card which means it would be free. On consideration I probably shouldn't have quipped merrily about servicing either.

bigTillyMint Sun 27-Apr-14 21:26:53

Well it came back in a couple of years ago at the DCs schoolconfused

Rescue Remedy chewing gum? Where did you get that? I am thinking anything that might help DD!

Stropperella Sun 27-Apr-14 21:30:19

Oh and I'm not complaining about Stropdog, merely making conversation grin . His antics always cheer me up. Before I had him, I had another equally eccentric rescue hound with some behavioural issues (was used for fighting, starved, so no wonder). I have a lot of time for eccentric, self-willed critters but can't really be done with dopey dogs. grin But then these are the sort of pets that you can't leave at home all day while you go out to work because they will be so bored they will become miserable and destroy your house. Which was one of the reasons Stropdog's previous owner got rid of him.

SheherazadeSchadenfreude Sun 27-Apr-14 21:32:56

Ha yes, men who can't find things number 5374... "What have you done with the spare car key/the insurance policy/the tax return/the letter from X that I need to answer urgently/my passport"... and so on and so on ad infinitum.

DH is at the opposite end of the spectrum re medical issues, Stropps and tends to rush to the doctor at the smallest twinge. We had much shouting (mine) the other week, when I had just been diagnosed with melanoma and he was fretting about his eye bags and wrinkles.

Stropperella Sun 27-Apr-14 21:34:54

Rescue Remedy chewing gum and "pastilles" available in our local Boots, BTM. I have also given dd an essential oil aromatherapy roller-ball to dab on her wrists for "stress". Tisserand "De-Stress", I think. Am aiming for maximum panacea effect boost. grin

Stropperella Sun 27-Apr-14 21:36:00

Eh, MrsS, you should have offered him a black eye to go with the bags and wrinkles. grin

addle Sun 27-Apr-14 21:37:15

btm - when dd was getting stressed with exams i offered rescue remedy and lavender oil on pillows as well - not that i believed in it but i thought she might feel soothed, also herbal tea and glucose sweets when she was in the middle of it all ...

re class position - i just don't read that bit of the report. in fact, don't really read the reports any more. too complicated.

agree about the lack of hinterland in cats but the foreground leaves plenty of room for angst and stress as far as i can tell. in my teens we had cats that were prescribed valium by the vet - we had to break really quite small pills in four i think and force them in ...

crem, v pleased about your df.

stropps, fingers crossed for yr jobs and yr dh. does sound hernia like.

bigTillyMint Sun 27-Apr-14 21:50:58

<makes shopping list>
She is currently larking about with DS.

motherinferior Sun 27-Apr-14 21:53:07

Yes, soothing placebos do stop the you just don't CARE wails.

Stropperella Sun 27-Apr-14 21:56:10

Crap, yes, MI, placebo is obvs what I meant. Dear god, I hope I can remember all the write words when i is doing my jobs this week.. <gibber>

motherinferior Sun 27-Apr-14 21:58:04

I've been wondering if it's a poison chalice or poisoned chalice for quite a few posts now. I need to get a life. Or find a copy of Hamlet.

Stropperella Sun 27-Apr-14 22:00:27

Macbeth grin "poisoned chalice"

bigTillyMint Sun 27-Apr-14 22:00:30

Well I thought it was poisoned, but what do I know?!

motherinferior Sun 27-Apr-14 22:06:46

I thought it was Hamlet and Gertrude. Will have to hand back English degree.

motherinferior Sun 27-Apr-14 22:08:40

Am now covered in shame.

Stropperella Sun 27-Apr-14 22:12:07

Looks like it might be both. That Willy Wobbledagger was keen on poisoned chalices.

<philistine's disclaimer> I know nuffink about Shakespeare having been put off the whole business at school.

NearTheWindymill Sun 27-Apr-14 22:24:20

About a year ago, DH was having the occasional breathless period. Eventually, I made him an appointment and told him when he was going. His response "what am I going for - what on earth do I say?". I ended up writing him a note to give to his doctor, explaining his symptoms and his family history (ie, three family members dropping dead with unanticipated heart attacks in their late 40s/early 50s). Evidently she smiled mildly but took it on board and gave him a battery of blood tests and arranged an ECG.

All was well. He has actually said "I don't mind going again, if you do that again". This from a man who "talks" for a living.


wilbur Sun 27-Apr-14 22:28:18

Class position was alive and well in the late 70s at dh's prep school - one of the letters (once weekly) his mother kept read "I came 4th in Latin. You won't get a letter from [dbro] this week because he's in the San. Love Young DH". grin No helicoptering in the dh household, that's for sure, one BIL had his appendix out before they could even inform his mum.

And Gertrude definitely drinks from a poisoned chalice, but can't remember if the phrase is used.

I made both oatmeal cookies and banana cake today, and was planning to do some 5:2 staring tomorrow....

herbaceous Sun 27-Apr-14 22:30:58

DP is complaining of a pain in his side, and has convinced himself it's the big C, as there are no diseases on the scale between 'fine' and 'imminent death'. I have advised the GP. My tooth continues to grumble. I'm hoping it doesn't flare up during the interview. I promise to take it to the dentist after it's all over.

Have fine snow blind looking at pgce presentation. Turns out five minutes speaking doesn't to equate to many words. It's now short enough, but doesn't read very well.

QueenQueenie Sun 27-Apr-14 22:44:44

Evening All,
Well I am the proud survivor of a big fundraising event that I pretty much had to organise single handed - with no expertise in doing so whatsoever.
Phew! It went surprisingly well and the fact it's over is a massive relief.

What is it with these overworking / disorganised / symptom denying men?? Eh? Eh?

Stropps, I think we did make suggestions for aged uncle's b'day present last year! Slippers? My suggestion this year is cashmere socks. Can't think of a single person alive who wouldn't be pleased with a pair of cashmere socks!

Herbs. massive good luck for Tuesday. Stay VERY calm is my advice and all will be well. They'd be lucky to have you... And you're right about 5 mins being no time at all for a presentation. Practice it with a clock as much as you can and rope dh in for some constructive criticism.

herbaceous Sun 27-Apr-14 23:03:16

DP, who is an old hand at presentations, is insisting I do it in front of him tomorrow night. This is more terrifying than the real thing.

SheherazadeSchadenfreude Sun 27-Apr-14 23:47:01

How long have we been "creping"? I remember our first meet up at the BFI, where I had behaved disgracefully the night before, had about three hours sleep, and run up a huge bar bill on cocktails and champagne and was sipping water with a stonking hangover. And then we met up again at the Waterloo Kitchen. Was the first meet up 2011?

CointreauVersial Sun 27-Apr-14 23:53:36

QQ - well done, sounds like hard work, but very satisfying.

Herbs - I'm feeling nervous on your behalf for Tuesday. Good luck with the DP dry run, and here's hoping any criticism is purely of the constructive variety, as opposed to self-esteem sapping.

Wilbur - I can't believe you had a film crew and paying guests at the same time. I think that would have sent my stress levels off the scale.

Crem - delighted to hear your dad is on the mend (finally).

Strops - I do love hearing about Stropdog and his eccentricities. And I'm honoured to be nominated to help with your to do list. I have a few items to tick off here first, however, if that's OK? wink

Actually, I am in the smug zone today - I dug out my sewing machine and tackled a long overdue pile of clothing alterations. I shortened a charity shop denim skirt (lovely, but was too long), ditto a pair of shorts (they were just above the knee - think "It Ain't Half Hot, Mum"), removed a naff dippy hem from a charity shop white lacy top, and altered a never-worn tunic into a regular-length top which I can wear with jeans. Very pleased with my handiwork. I have also caught up with paperwork/bills, and done the week's laundry. I am looking forward to a bit of a rest when I get to the office tomorrow, to be honest.

Remember I mentioned the chap at work who was majorly irritating me? Well, after we had our frank and honest "expectations exchange" he's been avoiding me things have calmed down, however, on Friday morning our Payroll clerk walked out, saying she'd had enough of being treated like an idiot. We are all on tenterhooks as to whether she'll return tomorrow.

bigTillyMint Mon 28-Apr-14 07:00:22

Well done QQ - was that the event you were talking to Auriga about?

Herbs, you'll be great. LOL at 5 mins not being long enough - DD would advise you otherwise (think presentations in MFL!)

CV I am in awe of you actually doing the alterations - I hate getting the sewing machine out!

MrsS, I was wondering about that the other night. I have no idea!

lalsy Mon 28-Apr-14 07:52:54

Herbs, really good luck.

Stropps, your account of ddog made me laugh, thank you, and hope all goes well with the doc.

BTM, exam stress - dd often chooses to stress about something else instead on the surface I can't usually think of anything more helpful to say than, "They'll be over soon". Think she is finding the prospect of A2s more stressy as university place depends on them.... ds (yr10) hasn't ever stressed about exams, maybe it is time he started...

Wilbur, love your dh's note home, it reminds me of some of the supposedly reassuring texts dc sometimes send.

Class position, blimey.

hattymattie Mon 28-Apr-14 08:05:42

I too am impressed by sewing machine efforts. I always think I should get one but given that I'm completely untrained, it would sit in a corner gathering dust.

In France we don't have class positions as such but the school report says the top, bottom and average class marks, so you know where you are situated in relation to these.

DH's friend came to lunch with his new girlfriend yesterday. She and his ex have a very good friend in common, so I'm not convinced this is a wise choice. It all seems too incestuous. I really have to watch everything I say and find it quite stressful. I did not ask to be living in an episode of EastEnders.

All back to school this morning so I'm going to start cleaning this place.

Glad your father is on the mend Crem.

Herb's it's good to practice in front of DH, the panel can only be less dauntingwink .

Blackduck Mon 28-Apr-14 08:06:51

Here we are on last day of hols so I am still in bed - dp has gone to work and not back until tomorrow evening (two days of shows).

Stropps DDog sounds like our hound although he has slowed down a lot (being 12 will do that to you). Hope DH is okay!

It is poisoned chalice - Macbeth apparently (hands back English degree alongside MI)...... It's being round all those business students - philistines the lot of them!

motherinferior Mon 28-Apr-14 08:10:20

I have conducted a slightly flaccid Ladyjog - it's like running through custard out there - and must tackle the stuff on my own to-do list. In my terror yesterday I wrote myself copious notes for a slightly tricky feature, on my phone, and then emailed them to myselfshock . Now all I have to do is follow my own firm instructions. Except today I do not feel like that determined well-organised MI, I feel like the more common small and lazy MI who prefers a gory novel and a piece of cake grin

herbaceous Mon 28-Apr-14 09:19:35

I think I am channelling all the DCs' exam stress. Woke up in a sweat at 4am, and couldn't go back to sleep. Feels like the next stage of my life is hanging on this interview, that my main strength is being 'good with words', but that my presentation is a turgid yet lightweight piece of shite.

bigTillyMint Mon 28-Apr-14 09:32:19

I woke at 3.30, Herbs, in a similar panic/worry sweat (sadly a common occurrence). I am pretty sure my high blood-pressure is linked to all my worry about DD and so this will not go away quicklysad

However, Herbs, you will ace your interview and be off on a new stage of your life! They would be mad not to snap you upsmile

Stropperella Mon 28-Apr-14 09:57:03

Congrats, QQ, that sounds like it was a pretty big undertaking.

Dd was up at the crack of dawn this morning and I gave her a lift to school with her rather large pile of prepared materials for the exam. She was positively chirpy. Hope today goes according to plan and she doesn't come home in a state of despair tonight.

I too am a member of the wide-awake in the middle of the night club. All this crepey talk of MILs: I spent about 2 hours lying awake last night remembering the decade when I had a MIL who was - according to a couple of people who know about such things and who had known her a lot longer than I had - quite possibly a psychopath. I have no idea how I maintained my composure in the face of stuff she did. I certainly wouldn't be able to do it these days. After an age frothing quietly to myself about a bunch of historical issues, I moved on to my favourite night-time topic: 101 reasons why I can't get a proper job and will be entirely incompetent if I do and generally have nothing to contribute to society, blah, blah, blah. I finally managed to get my mind to shut up and go back to sleep about 30 mins before it was time to get up. angry

Herbs, they would indeed be crazy not to snap you up, as BTM and QQ say. Sorry I'm not very good at giving advice on thinking positively (see above grin ), but you have so much to offer and lots of enthusiasm for what you want to do - this, along with an understanding of the challenges you will face, is what they want.

hattymattie Mon 28-Apr-14 10:01:17

I'm fellow 3.30 awakener - I'll drift around feeling crap today and achieve nothing very much.

Herbs -sending strength and crossed fingers and toes. What about some Night Nurse or something just to make sure you get a good night's sleep tonight.

herbaceous Mon 28-Apr-14 10:21:50

Ooh Night Nurse is the dogs doodahs. Though it might mean I don't wake up in the morning!

I'm planning to get some Rescue Remedy, placebo or not. And shall not submit to the temptation of wine tonight.

The task of getting from school drop off to the interview in the time allotted is stretching my public transport knowledge to the limit...

Blackduck Mon 28-Apr-14 10:32:10

Herbs you will be great! (Although I wouldn't do any presentation to dp ever! - but then I have more interview/presentation experience than him)

motherinferior Mon 28-Apr-14 10:37:54

Herbs, darling, might be worth asking a nice friend to take DS to school tomorrow? Then you can focus on getting there yourself?

herbaceous Mon 28-Apr-14 10:40:53

I'm so looking forward to it being over. I'm going to treat myself to a nice lunch nearby. If any crepeys are in the area, do join! I may even have wine.

QueenQueenie Mon 28-Apr-14 11:03:02

Herbs, those pictures of ds as Sportacus are soooo sweet. He's a treasure.

Feckin tube strike is a real stress here too - first day back at the coalface proper, an unmoveable 8am meeting that would be a 30 min journey by tube door to door but a right pita and god knows how long by a mixture of a v long walk and buses. Crap.

Herbs, second the idea of getting someone else to do school run tomorrow if that gives you a less stressful journey. The I of E has a fab canteen (think delicious school dinner) and used to eat there often when I was doing my course nearby.
If you are really truly unhappy with presentation then put what you've done on one side for now. It sounds like you think the shape of it is ok but not the words? do it to yourself off the top of your head in your own words and see if that's better... Or if that just makes you feel more fraught just stick with it and see what dp says.

Thanks for kind words re fundraising skills! It was a film screening plus q and a with learned guest speakers. I was indeed talking to Auriga about it on Friday - rather nervously!

Blackduck Mon 28-Apr-14 11:09:26

Where is it? Not that I am in London tomorrow.
I am feeling decidedly under the weather but think thus may be down to the somewhat copious amounts of alcohol do and I consumed yesterday.....

Time to go dry I feel...

herbaceous Mon 28-Apr-14 11:10:36

I'm wracking my brains for a friend who could take DS to school, but they all have school runs of their own, in the opposite direction. DP is leaving for Dublin at 05.45.

I may be able to bung him in breakfast club for a bit...

I'm not happy with either the shape or the words of the presentation. I'm trying to fit too much in, I think. I may winnow.

And yes, QQ, organising fundraising things is hideously complex and stressful, and usually utterly thankless, in my bitter opinion. Though my attempts sound rather less high-falutin' than yours!

herbaceous Mon 28-Apr-14 11:17:17

Yay! I can put DS in breakfast club anytime after 7.30 tomorrow, and thus proceed to my destination in a relatively serene manner.

herbaceous Mon 28-Apr-14 11:18:20

As for lunch destination, the interview's at the Institute of Education, just north of Russell Square. I may just go and gorge myself senseless at Yo Sushi.

motherinferior Mon 28-Apr-14 11:20:12

Can you nobble someone at the school gate, Herbs?

herbaceous Mon 28-Apr-14 11:29:04

It's OK MI - turns out breakfast club is super flexible, and I can just stick him in there any time after 7.30. He even gets fed. Princely sum, £1 (one pound).

He will not like this, but tough.

motherinferior Mon 28-Apr-14 11:30:43

I am wibbling. It is a panicky week re work. PDFs keep flitting across my desk. I am as wibbly as Wibbly Pig.

Stropperella Mon 28-Apr-14 11:46:11

I am underslept and wibbly. And feeling annoyed by having to write daft pretend US English and use a shite in-house style guide. Have just had to spend precious work time taking dog to vet for vaccinations (forgot about appmt until this morning).

Hooray for breakfast club, Herbs.

Am sure we've been creping for coming up 3 years, MrsS. I remember that dd was in Y8 and still at middle school when we started.

Meh, style guide, meh. Grumble, grumble...

Blackduck Mon 28-Apr-14 12:00:34

Well you all shared the trauma of my house move which took nearly a year and that's almost two years ago - so Stropps 3 years sounds about right....

lalsy Mon 28-Apr-14 12:50:40

I am wibbling too, having been awake much of the night, feeling both mad and exhausted now. Not a good combination.

herbaceous Mon 28-Apr-14 13:07:41

Was there a full moon or something last night? V odd that all us crepeys woke up at the same time, sweating.

Or is it some kind of menopausal synchronisation, like nuns get with their periods.

bigTillyMint Mon 28-Apr-14 13:11:03

Herbs, you never know, he might love it - DS did - he used to beg to go even when he didn't need to. They got much better service than he did at homegrin

Blackduck Mon 28-Apr-14 13:19:15

Ds will frequently come home get changed and go back to after school club!

motherinferior Mon 28-Apr-14 13:29:58

I sweated but that was too much Prosecco yesterday.

hattymattie Mon 28-Apr-14 15:29:09

Herbs grin. I was too hot - throw off covers - too cold - repeat cycle.

herbaceous Mon 28-Apr-14 16:35:45

DS superkeen to go to breakfast club! So that's a result.

Found out that a friend in the choir who works for the IoE is in fact in charge of literacy PGCEs! So have picked her brains. She pointed out that as the parent of a young child, my entire life is reflective practice. Though I'm now trying to think of an example...

QueenQueenie Mon 28-Apr-14 16:41:11

What about an example of how children learn by doing rather than being told iykwim. Or the importance of trying and failing being part of learning - you know that toddler thing of "me do it!" and they're right because that's how they learn. ..
Or maybe I've completely misunderstood the concept!

CointreauVersial Mon 28-Apr-14 16:53:27

I didn't wake up at 3.30am but I was certainly still awake at gone 3.00am. The problem is I sleep all weekend, bugger up my sleep pattern, then lie awake looking at the ceiling on Sunday night.

But I did manage a surprisingly sprightly lady jog this morning. I always run better the tireder I am (more tired?).

Re: sewing machine - tis in my genes, somewhat. DM is/was a fashion designer. My current sewing machine was a 16th birthday gift, but doesn't see a lot of action nowadays to be honest. My school was also hot on Needlework, and we were expected to turn in two homemade garments each senior year (and one had to be modelled <cringe>).

herbaceous Mon 28-Apr-14 16:53:53

I'm a bit 'anti' the whole concept, as it seems to be a cumbersome and convoluted way of doing what we all do naturally - learning through experience. 'Ooh, that went well, I'll do it like that again.' But maybe there's something in it! I have been known to be wrong.

I think 'reflective practice', in this instance, is supposed to be about the behaviour and goals of other people, so learning how best to interact with him to get him to stay in bed, eat his greens, be polite, etc. "Hmm shouting didn't work, maybe I'll be nice next time." Kind of thing.

Oh god, I don't know...

herbaceous Mon 28-Apr-14 17:03:27

Christ, my encounters with sewing machines have always been unmitigated disasters. In our year of sewing at school I think I managed a peg bag and a circle skirt. The peg bag fell apart pretty promptly.

Every time I turned the machine on, the bobbin would get in a huge tangle, or it would run away with me entirely. I couldn't get the hang of doing things upside down and inside out.

I do have a sewing machine, but it's an antique one of my grandmas. A Singer, all gilded and beautiful, in its own cabinet. Currently used for putting the stereo on.

DS got straight into his sportacus outfit on arriving home, and is now watching Frozen AGAIN.

bigTillyMint Mon 28-Apr-14 17:18:06

CV, mine was a 21st birthday present. Sadly it doesn't seem to get on with DD and her art textiles.

I came home to find DS and little next door neighbour playing cricket in our postage stamp garden amongst my lovely new plants. It didn't
T do much for my blood pressure!

Cremolafoam Mon 28-Apr-14 17:50:55

That's weird. I also woke up in the middle of the night in a lather and flung the bedroom windows open.

Stropperella Mon 28-Apr-14 18:54:00

I can report that Day 1 of Art GCSE went well, apparently. All is currently calm. Maybe I should get me some of that Rescue Remedy chewing gum hmm smile

Herbs, best of British for tomorrow. Don't think you'll need it, though. Well, maybe just for the journey there rather than anything else. grin

Auriga Mon 28-Apr-14 18:59:11

QQ congratulations on bringing off your Big Event successfully. Wouldn't have guessed you were anxious about it, you seemed calm and must have been exceptionally well-prepared.

I'd have loved to come but had too many neglected tasks at home. Having said that, stayed up till late ironing all DD's clean uniform, only to find it scrumpled up in a ball on her bed this morning angry. Had been drawn to her room by a suspicious smell, which turned out to be the neglected cat litter tray angry angry. I now regret that I relented over letting cat sleep in her room.

On the other hand...she's been promoted to the symphony orchestra <proud mummy emoticon> grin so will get away with it this time

Blackduck Mon 28-Apr-14 19:04:30

Good luck tomorrow Herbs....

QQ glad the event went well. I am slumped on the bed trying not to think about work tomorrow...

addle Mon 28-Apr-14 19:20:22

Good luck tomorrow Herbs! hv lovely treat of some kind after

Congrats QQ

Hope everyone sleeps well tonight

bigTillyMint Mon 28-Apr-14 19:48:31

Stropps, that is great news! Hope tomorrow goes just as well. I am definitely going to find that Rescue Remedy gum!

Well done to Auriga junior!

And for you Herbssmile

Cremolafoam Mon 28-Apr-14 20:39:40

Herbs I've got everything crossed for you tomorrow.
Yes, QQ very well done pulling that orf so well!
Auriga - bleurgh @ litter tray but congrats to the wee'un

Cat now dribbling mrs S and avoiding everything except the Lactofree milk and tiny morsels of not naice ham.
Off to the veterinary tomorrow . Now convinced of gum/tooth/oral problem
of great and ruinous expense
Poor kitty.....

lalsy Mon 28-Apr-14 20:52:49

Well done Stropps dd! It is great if the first one goes well. And congrats QQ.

I am going to have a large sherry and a very early night. My particular sleep disturbance last night was being very cold, shivering and shaking (heavy period). Lovely. Tomorrow it is ds' birthday and I have plumbed new depths of dullness with his presents (have warned him and reassured him that even I don't think a stapler would be a good present for a 15yo).

BTM, I wonder if your dd may feel less anxious once she has an exam or two under her belt? Am I right she is yr 10 and doing a few early? My dd just told me she was stressed (about getting the grades for university entrance) and off to watch Star Trek.... I think this is partly noise and fury to make herself settle down and do the work and avoid room tidying duties. Anyway, I think once they get going and realise they are exams on things they have studied, not the stuff of nightmares where you forget your pencil case and your skirt falls off while people ask you questions in strange languages, it does get a bit easier.

herbaceous Mon 28-Apr-14 21:20:52

Our local facebook group is awash with tales of tube strike days meaning all trains and buses are unboardable. The dippy admin woman on the course says if people can't get there, they can reschedule, but not sure if that means try but fail to get there, or what...

Still feel totally unprepared. My inner saboteur is arising...

Auriga Mon 28-Apr-14 21:49:25

Yes, well done to Stropps's DD and hope it all continues with minimum drama (unless it actually is Drama, sorry can't recall which GCSEs she's doing).

Good luck Herbs, how did presentation to DP go? My DH cheerfully sat through my last big talk several times. He was a big help, even though it's far from being his area.

SheherazadeSchadenfreude Mon 28-Apr-14 23:30:50

Good luck Herbs!

Well done to Stropps' DD - long may it continue!

And congrats to QQ for the fundraising. I got involved with fundraising once, and it was the worst thing I have ever done, apart from being class rep in reception, and getting "see me" from the teacher in DD2's home/school diary.

CointreauVersial Mon 28-Apr-14 23:41:29

Fingers firmly crossed for you, Herbs. I hope the commute isn't too hideous.

QueenQueenie Tue 29-Apr-14 00:00:57

Really well done to your dd Auriga, and fingers crossed Stropps for the calmness continuing...

Go knock 'em dead Herbs. Sending you many positive vibes.

Blackduck Tue 29-Apr-14 05:55:01

Fingers crossed Herbs!

hattymattie Tue 29-Apr-14 05:56:33

Go for it Herbs.smilesmile

bigTillyMint Tue 29-Apr-14 06:15:07

Herbs, strap your trainers on and get it over and done with!smile
And if you have survived your presentation to DP, the interview will be a breeze. I can't think of anyone worse to do a presentation to than DH!

DD was absolutely lovely last night (after she had slept for an hour or two when she got in) and snuggled up with me (and DS) on the sofa to watch One Born. It transpired that she had got 9 (out of 10) for the first part of her History CA. So Lalsy, I think you are (hopefully!) right and she may get less stressed if she does well in the ones she is taking this year.

MrsS, what did you do? Get them all drunk before school pick-up?!

RudyMentary Tue 29-Apr-14 06:29:10

Good Luck Herbs!

beachyhead Tue 29-Apr-14 07:50:37

OMG, my children have finally gone back to school. This holiday felt like the longest ever! And I'm back to work, but not braving London today.

Good luck Herbs - you are exactly what they are looking for and they'll see that when they meet you.

Well done mini Stropps and good luck for day 2 of Art. We have our Art marathon on Thursday and Friday of this week, so I know exactly how you feel.

Good luck with strike journeys today (for those of you affected).

NearTheWindymill Tue 29-Apr-14 07:55:38

Good luck with the interview.

herbaceous Tue 29-Apr-14 07:55:49

Thank you all my crepey sisterhood. DS is in breakfast club, my trainers are on - a la Working Girl - and I'm off to do battle with buses.

I didn't sleep a wink, so am not on top form...

lalsy Tue 29-Apr-14 07:55:49

Yaay BTM's dd. Fab.

Being class rep (years 7 and 8) was the worst thing I have ever done too, apart from having to host annual dinners for a small group of classic car enthusiasts.

Go, Herbs!

SheherazadeSchadenfreude Tue 29-Apr-14 08:47:12

Good luck Herbs!

The class rep thing... I was the only mother who worked, but all of the others were too busy having their nails done, going to the gym or having a lesbian affair with one of the other mothers (expat bubble) to be the class rep, so it fell to me. My great crimes were: trying to organise an end of term meal for the mummies and a) inviting the daddies and b) choosing a restaurant that wasn't in the village where everyone lived. I thought cocktails in the Brazilian bar down town, followed by dinner in a trendy brasserie would be great. They just wanted to go to the only restaurant in the village again and eat steak and chips. (They won.)

Second misdemeanour was to tell one of the other mummies that she could not dictate who brought what to the Christmas party - she needed to pin up a list of what was needed, and people could tick off and say what they were bringing. I had a Muslim woman coming to me in tears saying she had been told to bring ham sandwiches, and her friend sausage rolls, and they couldn't get halal sausages in the village. Another woman had been asked to bring chocolate fairy cakes, and she didn't bake, and was similarly stressed. I took down the list, put up a new one, and asked people to sign up to what they wanted to bring, so the bakers could make cakes, the non-bakers could bring juice and paper plates and crisps. I removed the ham sandwiches and replaced them with cheese, and replaced the sausage rolls with mini falafel. This cause more tears from the British mummies, whose children would only eat ham sandwiches and sausage rolls, provoked a "see me" in the home/school diary and being asked patronisingly by the teacher if I had ever dealt with foreigners before (I was working in a large international organisation at the time). I told her where to shove her class rep stuff and to get someone else to do it.

motherinferior Tue 29-Apr-14 08:47:39

Go Herbs!

Am embarking on nightmarish day. After a night of quite repulsive sweating, and an even sweatier Ladyjog. Will be checking in, waving not drowning, from a pile of proofs...

bigTillyMint Tue 29-Apr-14 08:53:42

MrsS, you rebel!

Am feeling very sad and sorry for the poor teacher (and her family, etc) who was stabbed to death yesterday. The interviews with ex-students, etc clearly showed that she, like many teachers, went the extra mile to support those who needed it. Does Gove realise that teaching involves more than just imparting academic knowledge?

Pollycazalet Tue 29-Apr-14 09:39:57

Hello all have been having terrible problems with MN password made worse by the email address for a reset being a yahoo account I abandoned some time in 2002...

Anyway am back and have caught up a bit. Also heading into London and have an irritating meeting which means I have to somehow get across town this afternoon - not looking forward to that at all. Good luck to other commuters and to Herbs for the interview.

I have had terrible insomnia and have been told by friends it's probably peri-menopausal. Feel dreadfully unclued up about the whole thing so planning to do some reading - anyone of a similar age to me with recommendations? Meanwhile as I turn nocturnal, DD is complaining of stomach cramps and 'feeling cross' which could be the start of something.

Pollycazalet Tue 29-Apr-14 09:43:59

Hello all have been having terrible problems with MN password made worse by the email address for a reset being a yahoo account I abandoned some time in 2002...

Anyway am back and have caught up a bit. Also heading into London and have an irritating meeting which means I have to somehow get across town this afternoon - not looking forward to that at all. Good luck to other commuters and to Herbs for the interview.

I have had terrible insomnia and have been told by friends it's probably peri-menopausal. Feel dreadfully unclued up about the whole thing so planning to do some reading - anyone of a similar age to me with recommendations? Meanwhile as I turn nocturnal, DD is complaining of stomach cramps and 'feeling cross' which could be the start of something.

motherinferior Tue 29-Apr-14 09:51:26

Polly! I thought you'd abandoned us...

Today's challenge is find copyright-free images of Vera Brittain and George VI as a young man. VB not too much of a problem (Peace Pledge Union and Somerville College both have them). Georgie, otoh, more of a problem not least because in youth he was known as Prince Albert. There are some things I just don't want to Google.

Stropperella Tue 29-Apr-14 09:55:10

Dd worked solidly all evening on more art stuff and I gave her a lift again to school this morning. Such a shame that - as ever - she procrastinated it all until the last minute. She is a genuinely talented artist with a fantastic gift for drawing, but I doubt that she will do herself justice in terms of grades. Something which she knows. She said she'll be lucky to get a B - and I've now seen the notes from the art teacher confirming this- when she was a potential A*. It will be the same with ICT, according to be her and her teacher. I hope that when she gets her grades in the summer she will be able to deal with it all in a robust manner. <lives in hope> I also hope that she will have learnt that digging in her heels and insisting on doing things in her own time rather than doing them at the time and in the way suggested by her teachers is a bad plan. However, she is so immensely stubborn that I fear that this will not be the case. Or she will eventually learn this when she is about 40.

I too am feeling very sad about that poor teacher. Also takes me back nearly 20 years to sitting in shocked silence in the staff room in a school in London hearing about the murder of Philip Lawrence. Gove has no bloody clue.

The class rep nonsense has never taken off round here, thank god. Someone did try to instigate that kind of practice, but I refused to cooperate because the self-styled "rep" was essentially bullying people who couldn't necessarily afford it to give money for overly lavish and entirely unnecessary presents to the teaching staff every term and sorry, but I really don't want to go out with 30 other mums just because my dc is in the same class as theirs. Meh. I think I must not have been the only one who was unimpressed with the idea as the class rep idea seemed to die a death after only 3 terms and has never been spoken of again.

Stropperella Tue 29-Apr-14 09:55:39

grin @ MI

Pollycazalet Tue 29-Apr-14 10:05:28

Stropps I have a horror of being in just your situation in a cou

herbaceous Tue 29-Apr-14 10:06:43

Gibber. I have been on a bus for two hours. It's past 10 o'clock, time of the interview, and I'm still at old street roundabout. I can't get through to anyone on the phone. And I left my interview notes at home.


Pollycazalet Tue 29-Apr-14 10:08:41

Drat on phone on train!
What I meant to say was I have a horror of being in just your situation in a couple of years time with DS who shows worrying bone idle tendencies. He has had an ability to coast with little effort and I worry he's never learnt to apply himself.

Pollycazalet Tue 29-Apr-14 10:10:12

How stressful Herbs! Am sure they'll be sympathetic when you do get there although awful for nerves and stress levels.

hattymattie Tue 29-Apr-14 10:15:51

Herb - they know there is a tube strike so should be sympathetic.

Well done to everybody's DD's with their first exams. We haven't quite started yet.

Fab news on the orchestra Auriga. I often think there must be nothing more fabulous than playing in a big orchestra like that.

Cremolafoam Tue 29-Apr-14 12:11:02

Oh herbsconfused
Are you ok??

Stropperella Tue 29-Apr-14 12:16:47

Hope herbs is there by now..

Racing against time to meet tonight's deadline. And after school today is one of ds's super-busy times. Youth theatre, followed by taekwando. Followed by a supper that I will magically have created in 4 seconds. Am just also having to quote for MASSIVE job that will completely collide with my invigilation commitments (although I did only say I would do mornings this time, except for the orals). <sweats>

I would just like to say that the Lindt dark choc "Caramel with a touch of seasalt" is mmmmmmmmmmmmmm and a pleasing way to reduce stress levels, even if only momentarily.

Belated congrats to Auriga's dd! And well done to BTM's dd and glad to hear that you enjoyed a relaxed evening, BTM.

QueenQueenie Tue 29-Apr-14 12:20:12

Oh Herbs how horribly stressful.
Hope you have managed to get there, have the interview, wowed them with your presentation and are now enjoying a stiff drink.
Let us know how you got on.

bigTillyMint Tue 29-Apr-14 13:05:17

Oh Herbs, hope you got there OK and that it went well.

wordassociationfootball Tue 29-Apr-14 13:09:43

Lalsy. Epic:

I think once they get going and realise they are exams on things they have studied, not the stuff of nightmares where you forget your pencil case and your skirt falls off while people ask you questions in strange languages, it does get a bit easier.

CointreauVersial Tue 29-Apr-14 13:10:02

Nooo, Herbs, your blood pressure must have been off the scale. Hope you made it. Maybe you couldn't reach the interviewer on the phone because he/she was also on a bus somewhere?

LOL at MrsS having never "dealt with forriners before". grin I was Class Rep briefly at Infant School, which was fine, because I was on maternity leave and they were a nice friendly bunch. I can't remember doing much beyond soliciting Christmas Hamper donations. I have since swerved the bullet seeing I am a "dump-and-run" mum, and set foot in the school playground twice a term, if that.

More LOLs at Prince Albert. grin grin

Polly - you are probably right in your diagnosis. All these little nuggets of information which are never shared with women of our age..... meanwhile our DCs sit through any number of talks at school, all about "bodily changes" and "what to expect as you go through puberty". Maybe there should be something similar as you approach 45. I've certainly had mucked-up sleep patterns, (amongst other more challenging symptoms) and it took me ages to put two and two together. I think I am coming out the other side, thank goodness (even though I'm only 47), with periods pretty much stopped, and the murderous rages considerably diminished.

motherinferior Tue 29-Apr-14 13:48:04

DD1 had yoof theatre audition yesterday. About seventeen (17, XVII) places, so four people will lose out. To do an arts bronze award.

As it is both free and local - and also v unprecious, what with being free and local and delivered by delightful theatre in ed people - I v much hope she gets it. She had of course made numerous new BFFs by the end of the session. DD1 is quite pathologically sociable. She reminds me of Terry Pratchett's Captain Carrot in that way.

wilbur Tue 29-Apr-14 14:01:34

Oh Herbs, I hope you got there in the end and it was ok. What a nightmare! My journey in today involved a lot of swearing and swerving - had to get out the door with ds2 and dd at 7am to snag a free parking space (still didn't manage and had to use my very last 1 hr parking permit, saved for similar emergencies) then cycling along totally gridlocked streets and then the South Bank which was awash with people walking when it is usually only me and some tourists who don't realise the London Eye doesn't open til ten. Was in a right old knackered lather when I got in and have to do it all in reverse (inc getting ds2 to Cubs for an important meeting) this evening. Beachy, you were right to avoid London today.

Lalsy, love the exam dream. I once dreamed I was in a production of Pal Joey (one of the few musicals I know not one note from) with my old headmistress (person I hate most in the world). I still sweat just thinking about it. And the stapler is a genius idea if it stops yours being "borrowed". I may buy all my dcs staplers for Xmas.

Blackduck Tue 29-Apr-14 14:18:55

Oh Herbs, hope you got there! Update us....

I am supposed to be in London tomorrow at a workshop - I might pass up on it.....

Stropperella Tue 29-Apr-14 14:30:03

The stapler as present to avoid yours getting borrowed ploy didn't work with dd. Things just disappear into the black hole in her room and she still requires all my stuff. Lucky that i always have a supply of charcoal, graphite pencils, ink etc otherwise she would have been stuffed for her art exam prep. hmm

Youth theatre has been a huge hit with ds (not free, but v. inexpensive and also run by theatre in ed people). He is also pathologically sociable and collects new friends like the piano collects dust. He is, however, huffing about learning his solo song for the end of year production in June, as it is "too sad". hmm

Gah, quick, I must do more words.

hattymattie Tue 29-Apr-14 15:19:02

Herbs??? Radio Silence - hope you are OK.

CointreauVersial Tue 29-Apr-14 16:10:29

What are these "free youth theatres"? I have been shelling out an eye-watering £400 a term for DD1 and DD2 to attend their drama group. They have decided not to do it this term, and I didn't try particularly hard to persuade them otherwise, as it is such an expense.

Herbs, are you out there.....?

motherinferior Tue 29-Apr-14 16:23:26

This kind of thing.

Herrrrrbs???? Come and tell us, my lovely, even if it didn't go quite to plan.

Cremolafoam Tue 29-Apr-14 16:34:31

sudden vision of Herbs skirt falling off mid interview.
Worried about ye mrssad

motherinferior Tue 29-Apr-14 16:42:06

She might be, you know, out having a life...

herbaceous Tue 29-Apr-14 16:59:59

< collapses on to keyboard >

So... I didn't sleep a wink, and left the house at 7.30, dropped DS at breakfast club, and was on a bus at 8.10

I got there at 10.45 - only just after another couple of latecomers - and was ushered straight into the presentations. Three of the other four candidates had literacy or ESOL experience, and were all full of pie charts about the number of languages in the class, etc. Made my much more general round-up seem totally amateur. I gabbled, and still ran over time.

Then to a classroom where we had to do the written test. It was SO HARD. A 500-word essay on the role of grammar teaching in Literacy and ESOL, analysing an academic feature about something complex, analysing the difference between written and spoken English, and analysing a letter written by a 'learner', answering six questions about it. All in an hour and a quarter. I had forgotten my glasses.

Every so often one of us was picked out to be interviewed. I had forgotten my notes, and gabbled like a fool, and my mind went black. Though think I did OK on the 'reflective practice' bit.

The whole thing was run by vague yet stern wooly-haired 60-year-old ladies called Irene who had been in academia all their lives.

Didn't finish until 2.15, so had to charge back home to get DS from school. This involved going on HS1 from St Pancras, which was mildly exciting. Late picking DS up, he then dawdled all the way home while I sweated under multiple heavy bags.

One of the worst days of my life. And I don't think I've got in. Or even if I do get in, whether it's the right place.

And, joy of joys, I've got to go into town again tomorrow for an eye appointment for DS. Not sure I can face it.

QueenQueenie Tue 29-Apr-14 17:00:01

Oh don't be ridiculous MI! wink

Blackduck Tue 29-Apr-14 17:05:15

Herbs hmm
Might not be as bad as you think - after the stress of getting there it was all likely to feel a bit too much....

When do they let you know

herbaceous Tue 29-Apr-14 17:07:10

I'll know within 10 days, though I almost heard them smirk as I left the room.

I haven't eaten anything all day, apart from a Belvita biscuit on the bus.

Cremolafoam Tue 29-Apr-14 17:10:19

Herbs <soothing voice> you poor thing. What an horrendous day. Eek that essay- without specs as well. confused
Can you at the very least get ds's appointment postponed ?
My profoundest sympathy. Look, it ain't over til The fat lady Irene sings.
Apply liberally with gin.

Cremolafoam Tue 29-Apr-14 17:15:08

Well, gin and a sandwich if you haven't eaten today obvs.

I am in the middle of making cheescake and wish I could send u a

herbaceous Tue 29-Apr-14 17:18:02

The next possible appointment for DS is in July, which is too far away. I shall attempt to get on the train tomorrow with him, but if it's going to be as hideous as it was apparently today, I'm not going to put him or myself through it.

I usually drive, but it would take a million years tomorrow.

herbaceous Tue 29-Apr-14 17:19:28

I have a paella ready meal and some Rioja.

DS is in his sportacus outfit watching Frozen. This is all he does.

motherinferior Tue 29-Apr-14 17:29:55

Herbs, I'll bet the farm you wrote better than you think you did. You write for a living, and write very clearly.

herbaceous Tue 29-Apr-14 17:39:38

I think I did OK on the writing bit, though without as much theoretical or practical knowledge as some of the others, OK-ish on the presentation, and pretty cack in the interview.

I would BLOODY LOVE some of your cheesecake crem. It's going to be all I can do to avoid scarfing DS's pizza.

CointreauVersial Tue 29-Apr-14 17:43:28

Herbs, what a nightmare day. Crack open that Rioja immediately.

I would echo MI - I bet you did better than you think you did (although if you aren't sure it is right for you, as opposed to the other way round, that's a different matter....).

After a good night's sleep you'll be in a better frame of mind to tackle the trip into town tomorrow. Without the stress of an interview looming I'm sure it won't be so bad. And you'll have company!

lalsy Tue 29-Apr-14 17:50:18

Herbs, sounds horrendous, well done on getting through it. I bet you did better than you thought.

MrsS shock at class rep horror. I have to confess mine was an easy gig by comparison: a small, sensible job to do involving mostly pleasant and sensible people. I was just pants at it - the only bit I was good at was putting lists of names in alphabetical order.

bigTillyMint Tue 29-Apr-14 18:26:59

Oh Herbs, your day sounds sorely trying but we all have everything crossed for the old bags interview panel making the right decision. Try to get a decent sleep tonight and get miniHerbs to don his Sportacus outfit and trainers tomorrowwink!

SheherazadeSchadenfreude Tue 29-Apr-14 18:31:34

Yay, go Herbs! Fingers crossed for the right outcome.

Mmm, cheescake...

I quite fancy going to the pub.

motherinferior Tue 29-Apr-14 18:33:44

I quite fancy the pub too.

In fact anyone in the vague vicinity of Sarfeast Lunnon fancy the pub this Saturday?

Cremolafoam Tue 29-Apr-14 18:37:14

Cheescake at the 'wobble' stage.
Salted almond brittle Mrs S.

DF still in hospital so am bringing him a slice tonight . He'll need it after the Rabbi this afternoon, who has been lurking menacingly. She doesn't get a lot of work round here.wink

motherinferior Tue 29-Apr-14 18:41:29

I have aubergines and tomatoes and two (2, ii) heads of garlic roasting in the oven. God I love Easy Food.

Blackduck Tue 29-Apr-14 18:59:25

Stir fry here........

herbaceous Tue 29-Apr-14 18:59:25

Rioja opened, packet of Parma ham being devoured slice by slice, rosacea humming.

I am dead on my feet.

Thanks again for kind crepey words. It's annoying that I didn't get a chance for them to see my 'engaging personality', which is about all I have to offer, it feels.

Other than being able to write pithily on Facebook and other bulletin boards, which I'm not sure is a marketable skill.

SheherazadeSchadenfreude Tue 29-Apr-14 19:08:18

I don't mind if I do, MI. wine

We are having leftovers tonight, in the shape of Caribbean Vegetable Stew and lentils with spinach, garlic and ginger.

I am not in the mood for either effort or cooking.

bigTillyMint Tue 29-Apr-14 19:18:31

I fancy the pub this Saturday, but either DH or I may be on teen pickup duty. If he could be persuaded..... 185 bus route?!

We've just had stir fry BD! Cheesecake sounds yum, as do all the meals you are all consuming!

Stropperella Tue 29-Apr-14 19:43:01

grin @ lurking under-employed Rabbi. Hope your ddad is continuing to improve now, Crem.

Tonight's quick and easy supper: tagliatelle, sauce made of tub of cream cheese with herbs melted with small amount of milk, add shredded smoked salmon (thank you Lidl), squeeze of lemon. Serve with petit pois. <punches the air>

Oh herbs, how I feel for you. Sounds like a real marathon. I reckon you'll have done better in the interview that you think. Fingers crossed. And I hope tomorrow goes well.

bigTillyMint Tue 29-Apr-14 19:48:56

How did your DD get on today Stropps?

SheherazadeSchadenfreude Tue 29-Apr-14 19:58:29

DH has asked what we are having with the leftovers. Am I doing potatoes or rice? I am not. The stew contains potatoes and sweet potatoes, and is one of those one pot dish things. This is not a fucking restaurant. angry

Good job it's not pesach, Crem, or you might have felt obliged to inflict one of those hideous chocolate matzo cakes on your DDad. <shudders>

Stropperella Tue 29-Apr-14 19:58:49

She came home in a grump and said her printing was a load of rubbish and she's done really badly etc. However, she is also pleased that she's finished Art. grin

herbaceous Tue 29-Apr-14 20:01:03

Christ, I fancy the pub. In a riotous 'Oom pah pah' from Oliver fashion.

I feel I should make clear that the content of the written part of today's ordeal, the essay etc, was a total surprise, so no chance to prepare or anything. They gave us a set time limit, so I charged on, cutting corners for speed, then came back saying 'oh OK then, have half an hour more'. Grrr. If I'd known that, I would have taken more time. Like the quivering loon next to me who was writing reams and reams for the first question, not just the standard 500, then being allowed to stay long after everyone else for the other four.

DS is testing my patience to the limit, getting out of bed repeatedly. I may lose my RAG.

Cremolafoam Tue 29-Apr-14 20:15:47

Oh don't get me started on the perils of hospital food kosher bingo
So far he's either been fed by tube ( grim) or mother's apple kuchen. ( not quite so grim but you can hardly live on it) he blethered something about cheesecake the other day, so I have offered it up to him tonight. He ate a whole teaspoonful before proclaiming how much he felt like soup and matzah .
grin He must be getting better then.....

motherinferior Tue 29-Apr-14 20:20:55

Terrible food and such small portions, Crem?

I bunged slices of hallumi into the oven too (on a different roasting sheet) and did couscous (ie poured boiling water onto couscous and frozen chopped parsley, a product I highly recommend for such purposes). I even mashed the garlic cloves out of their skins and bashed up the tomatoes, which I felt showed true greed commitment.

motherinferior Tue 29-Apr-14 20:21:35

I just found a chunk of a novel I half wrote. It isn't as bad as I thought it was. Or rather isn't as bad as the Book No Agent Wants.

beachyhead Tue 29-Apr-14 21:55:13

Well done Herbs.... and breathe, and do it all again tomorrow!

During my brief Easter sojourn, my boss appears to have annexed another whole department, thus enlarging my responsibility by another VIII (eight) angry people, who didn't want to be invaded. Great! Might work from home for the foreseeable future.

She is setting me up for a fall!

Just got back from a UCAS evening at college, trying to fathom the system. I've made notes.....

beachyhead Tue 29-Apr-14 21:56:06

or is that supposed to be eight (VIII). I'm not concentrating!

motherinferior Tue 29-Apr-14 21:59:07

Eight (8, viii).

Stropperella Tue 29-Apr-14 22:25:45

Am still working. Boo.

NearTheWindymill Tue 29-Apr-14 22:51:11

I haven't posted because I need to catch up with everyone else's posts. I am sorry. I have a gist that Herbs had a shit day and I hope it works out somehow. Am just so tired. But I've sort of got a vibe from "crem" - I don't know where you are but can I get you proper Kossoff's cheesecake delivered?

I try hard to make my lot loction and they think it's disgusting. They know nothing.

CointreauVersial Tue 29-Apr-14 23:06:56

I was thinking of you and your day-job, BTM, while watching Mr Drew's School For Boys. DS may sorely try our patience on occasion, but OMG some of those lads.......shock sad

That pasta sounds lush, Strops. <takes notes> We had meatballs with pasta (DCs), and roasted squash (DH and I).

beachyhead Tue 29-Apr-14 23:32:07

Camp night details have gone out on fb and email.

Let me know if you haven't got it and pm your email!

Auriga Wed 30-Apr-14 00:02:35

Thanks Beachy, sounds brilliant.
Herbs, rosacea humming? Are we in code now? Have I missed a memo?
Or (sudden inspiration) was that 'rose chilling' ??

Blackduck Wed 30-Apr-14 02:10:01

I am supposed to be london tomorrow today but a. Am not sure I can cope with either a 10th of the hell Herbs went through b. Am wibbliing majorly about the amount of work I appear to have come back to. As it's not a necessary trip I think I'd be wise to bin it off......

I am also trying to round up some kind of birthday present for ds .......

No booze drunk here - I think do and I are still dealing with the after affects of Sunday....

bigTillyMint Wed 30-Apr-14 07:43:42

Just had an entertaining start to the day - on my way back from the gym, I got beeped by 2 young white van men. DH was coincidentally cycling towards me at the same time. I'm not sure which was funnier - the look of disappointment on white van man's face when he saw how old I was, or DH's face at seeing them beep megrin

bigTillyMint Wed 30-Apr-14 07:47:39

Beachy, I would love to come, but I have yet to convince DH and I haven't even mentioned it to the DC!

CV, yes I was watching with the DC. Mr Drew employed lots of tactics that we use on a daily basis, although we are not allowed to let them actually fight and nor do they have a massive campus to roam when the will takes themenvy

motherinferior Wed 30-Apr-14 08:30:19

Beachy, do PM me: fear I have however forgotten the date. Along with many other dates I have forgotten.

I worked not quite as late as Stropps but am now resuming again.

Stropperella Wed 30-Apr-14 11:18:06

My family are all v. keen to go to Beachy's. Dd was v. impressed by your dd's fashion shoot, Beachy, and thought she looked lovely. Just as well I finally got the tent pole fixed from the last time we put the tent up. (Duct tape = the incompetent camper's friend).

Worked until midnight last night and client acknowledged receipt of file at 1am (so 2am her time). Back to it early this morning. And it's going to be another long day today. And then again tomorrow. How the hell I'm going to stay awake invigilating A level orals on Friday is anyone's guess.

motherinferior Wed 30-Apr-14 11:27:53

I am busy soothing the client, the publisher AND the designer. This involves tact and diplomacy. If I were any good at T&D I'd be out doing a proper job, dammit, not freelancing for a pittance.

Blackduck Wed 30-Apr-14 11:52:52

I am feeling stressed....

hattymattie Wed 30-Apr-14 12:36:12

Beachy - thank you so much for the camp invite but we will be in the middle if the baccalaureate and are unable to move anywhere until July. It sounds like a lovely occasion.

Pollycazalet Wed 30-Apr-14 12:48:54

Having a tricky day with ill DD so had to rush to work this am for important meeting then rush home to take over from DH. She's got sore throat achey limbs and stomach ache which seems a weird combo.

Sympathies to all those still enduring tube strikes - I spent 45 minutes on a stationary bus yesterday in gridlocked traffic trying to get to a meeting. Bus driver refused to let anyone off.

Some bloomin lovely food seemed to be dished up by you lot last night.

motherinferior Wed 30-Apr-14 12:58:39

BD, shall I soothe you too?

Bought Fishcakes tonight. And salad. I foresee complaints. The Inferiorettes feel I have a strange and tedious obsession with salad.

Camping date is just before DD2's birthday so I suspect I shall be surrounded by smiling cherubs. Ahem.

motherinferior Wed 30-Apr-14 13:32:20

Or possibly Bought Oven Ciabatta (thank you Aldi) and tonno e fagioli, ie naice tuna in olive oil and cannellini beans. And salad.

It's only half-way through Wednesday, isn't it. I have at least done most of my feature on ward rounds (I want to give it the title I Get A Round but fear that the readership may not love that) and can move onto one about phone apps and sight tests. Don't ask.

herbaceous Wed 30-Apr-14 14:13:57

Successfully negotiated transport devilment to get DS to his hospital appointment. This involved walking from Liverpool Street to Old Street roundabout, with him on his scooter in his Sportacus outfit. Quite a sight in the City. Nearly everyone we passed smiled. DS then said 'I don't like people looking at me...' Er...

herbaceous Wed 30-Apr-14 14:15:58

As for dinner, I've recently discovered the delights of tray roasting. Bung items in oven, leave for hour, eat. Items could be chicken joints, potatoes, garlic, rosemary, lemon, or sausages, potatoes, peppers, tomatoes, balsamic, olive oil.

Keeps in oven for late-arriving menfolk. Minimal washing up. Win win.

Cremolafoam Wed 30-Apr-14 14:27:47

well done Herbs. smile @ ds in Sportacus outfit.
I also favour the bung it all in the oven technique and will be employing it this evening with veggie sausages, apple, butternut squash, red onion, jersey royals and a courgette.

thanks for the cheesecake offer Windy, but I made one which was sniffed at for the most part by DF. AND we are in Ireland du Nord.

I was greatly cheered by this piece in the NYtimes today. Bittersweet but nicely put.

Blackduck Wed 30-Apr-14 14:32:44

Yes MI, a soothing hand on my tortured brow would be nice.

herbaceous Wed 30-Apr-14 14:33:46

QQ - are you there? DP and I have a 'date night' on Friday, and are contemplating dining out in Islington. Do you have any recommendations of new(ish) places?

We've ruled out Almeida for being too French/formal, Ottolenghi for being too communal and Pasha for being too aubergine-based.

bigTillyMint Wed 30-Apr-14 14:34:41

Herbs, well done! Your story reminds me of one time when DS was about 3 or 4, scootering down the road in DD's pale pink ballet leotard, tutu and headband. An entire busload of passengers were giggling at him as he grinned at them - he had no shamegrin

I haven't done any tray roasts recently, but I feel one coming on...

QueenQueenie Wed 30-Apr-14 15:50:21

I AM here Herbs... What sort of thing do you have in mind? Tell me your hearts' desires and I'll se what I can do smile

How about these to get on with?


Drapers Arms

Le Coq


Isarn Thai

Bless your ds - what a sweetie. His Sportacus antics bring back awful memory of ds2 breaking his leg in Suffolk, aged 5 and trying to explain to the A and E staff why he was wearing a Peter Pan outfit and no pants or socks, in February as well as how he broke his leg (he fell off his bike and dh crashed into him and fell on him shock). Thought SS were going to arrive...

herbaceous Wed 30-Apr-14 15:57:47

Ooh, QQ. Since posting, I had discovered the Smokehouse and fancied that, but now Trullo looks blasted delicious. I love Moro, but it might be a bit of a trek, and I had a lovely bit of Coq for my birthday! We hired the private room downstairs.

I hardly ever go out for meals these days, so deciding where to go takes on a weighty significance.

QueenQueenie Wed 30-Apr-14 16:05:05

Smokehouse looks great but I haven't been, think it's pretty new?
Trullo is indeed good - if you do go ask for a table on the ground floor - the basement is a bit dark and depressing.

motherinferior Wed 30-Apr-14 16:31:14

I have instructed DD2 to empty the dishwasher and DD1 to cook dinner (ie bung fishcakes in oven and put together a salad). They both, obviously, feel this is domestic slavery grin

BD, I'll soothe yours if you'll soothe mine.

hattymattie Wed 30-Apr-14 16:32:10

Hope you realise I'm having to Google all these cooks. Ottolenghi looks particularly delicious and I might have to buy his book!

bigTillyMint Wed 30-Apr-14 16:59:49

Herbsenvy Though I'm not sure I'd want to spend a date night with DH ATM as he is being particularly stubborn and stupid about us buying a new (second-hand, of course) car.

Ottolenghi does a column in the Grauniad. His dishes are indeed yummy!

Blackduck Wed 30-Apr-14 17:05:02

You're on MI...

Hatty 'Plenty' is a fabulous cookery book ....

Blackduck Wed 30-Apr-14 17:05:56

At the moment I'm lucky to see dp passing on the stairs let alone have a date night.....

CointreauVersial Wed 30-Apr-14 17:06:37

Coq for your birthday, Herbs? I'm surprised you had the energy. wink

Beachy - do PM me your camping details. However, I am hampered somewhat by the fact that we don't actually own a tent. I decided long ago that a solid roof and an en suite toilet were holiday must-haves, so have boycotted camping ever since. Will our "mutual friend" be there? I have seen her twice this week, but only as we flash past each other in our cars outside one of the two schools.

The Payroll lady who had the huge row with Irritating Accountant in the office hasn't been in all week, and I just heard she's been signed off for four weeks, due to stress. Much eye-rolling in the office. The good news is that Irritating Accountant and I seem to be getting on better, now I'm keeping him at arm's length (and now he's doing two people's jobs he hasn't got time to meddle with my stuff anyway).

lalsy Wed 30-Apr-14 17:28:19

BD, we are like that here. We were due to go out to lunch last week, arranged in Feb, first for ooooh, possibly a decade. Instead, he went to A and E with a nasty eye thing.

Ottolenghi is indeed yummy but I do find his recipes a bit of a faff with all those ingredients (am not very good at following recipes, so it may be that).

Crepey camping sounds great fun, think we still in exam season then though.

CV, Decathlon do great pop up tents that are very easy to put up, reasonably priced and excellent in high winds and rain as they bend in (I am really selling camping here aren't I?). The YHA are extending the number of hostels that let you camp in their grounds, which I am excited about as we have found it a perfect half way house (you can use the kitchens etc but still get to watch the sun come up with a cup of tea).

CointreauVersial Wed 30-Apr-14 17:31:55

I quite enjoyed Youth Hostelling, now I come to think about it.

I just don't have an outdoorsy family.

herbaceous Wed 30-Apr-14 17:38:55

I doubt I'd persuade DP into a tent in a million years. In fact, we don't have a tent. And the date of Camp Beachy is his birthday. So, all in all, put me down as 'remote chance'.

As for Otto, his recipes are indeed delicious, but a right royal pain in the arse, even once you've spent two days sourcing dried Iranian lime powder. But I'd like to go to the restaurant and have someone else make it for me. Trouble is, it's all communal tables, so not very 'date'.

Cremolafoam Wed 30-Apr-14 17:39:22

Cv I think the last time we went camping with my sister and family( never again for reasons previously expanded upon) I recall my sister and I lying freezing in a damp and freezing tent , hiding from midges and a small noisy dog, my dsis said: if only camping could be warm and cosy with comfortable beds , a proper loo, and running water. Then I might like it.
From outside the tent her dh wryly said: yes it called caravanning
<< shudder>>

SheherazadeSchadenfreude Wed 30-Apr-14 18:01:49

I think the chance of getting DH in a tent is probably slightly more remote than me having a nice bit of coq in the foreseeable future.

I am working with a bunch of librarians and don't find them overly friendly. Territorial, yes, friendly, no.

bigTillyMint Wed 30-Apr-14 18:04:23

Cremo, DH's parents have a caravan on a site with laminate flooring in the awning and a 3 piece suite, real double bed, TV, etc, etc - sounds like your dreamwink

motherinferior Wed 30-Apr-14 18:05:16

I too am afflicted with a partner who refuses point-blank to camp. He cites O-level Geography trips as enough camping experience (those being a mere 32 years ago, which is clearly not enough to get over the trauma).

bigTillyMint Wed 30-Apr-14 18:13:29

It's not the camping that DH is worried about, it's the hairy-handed crepeysgrin

QueenQueenie Wed 30-Apr-14 18:15:46

Tell him I'm quite nice really and that he can call me Trevor and sit in my truck BTM.

bigTillyMint Wed 30-Apr-14 18:16:54


Blackduck Wed 30-Apr-14 18:17:54

I thought it was just mine who has a canvas phobia. He spent his childhood/yoof on camping or caravanning holidays and now wants fixed walls grin

Blackduck Wed 30-Apr-14 18:18:41

Tell him we'll all wax for the occasion BTMgrin

NearTheWindymill Wed 30-Apr-14 18:23:41

I may need entertaining to get through tonight. At a and e with dd who has suspected appendicitis. It is heaving. 50 minutes and no triage yet.

motherinferior Wed 30-Apr-14 18:35:45

Oh god, no! You poor things.

Herbs, diluting a Date Night with a communal table sounds perfect to me grin but then OJ Evening is still fresh in my memory.

Blackduck Wed 30-Apr-14 18:44:39

Oh windy, fingers crossed you get seen soon...

QQ I heard of people like you ;)

herbaceous Wed 30-Apr-14 18:44:44

We haven't really had a night out just us for months. And so much has happened of late - dead dads (his), failed attempts at new career (me) - that it would be nice to be able to talk freely, like.

Cremolafoam Wed 30-Apr-14 18:53:03

Oh windysad
Bloody nightmare . Hope dd is ok.

motherinferior Wed 30-Apr-14 19:07:31

Anyone want a thirty (30, XXX) per cent discount off Timberland, including online?

Failing that would anyone like DD2 who is being a shouty PITA (this may be SATs related but I frankly don't care)?

SheherazadeSchadenfreude Wed 30-Apr-14 19:14:23

Ugh, Windy - fingers crossed you get seen quickly.

Stropperella Wed 30-Apr-14 19:32:41

Windy, I hope your dd gets triaged very soon. That's miserable having to wait so long.

Oi, Trev, can I sit in your truck too grin

BTM, but, but, my hands aren't THAT hairy... (well, they may be a little more hirsute during a full moon).

As dh and I spend virtually every waking hour together, a date night seems a bit ... superfluous. But maybe that is missing the point. We need to go out for a few evenings this summer, whilst dd is around to baby-sit ds. Am reasonably confident that this might be something she could now do without there being a major outbreak of hostilities between her and ds.

This evening I made a Persian herb frittata for supper (recipe from last Saturday's Guardian). Ds claimed it was like eating grass pie. Does anyone have a really good, non-grass-pie-like frittata recipe?

bigTillyMint Wed 30-Apr-14 20:21:05

Yes Stropps, I did remind him that he had met you and found you very normal!
And that sounds like a good step forward - that DD could babysit.

Have just sat through an hour of DD ranting at me, but this is an improvement on her bottling it all up. I think!

We just have omelettes here as DS doesn't like random veg in with his eggs. How about Spanish omelette?

motherinferior Wed 30-Apr-14 20:32:38

I suspect my antipathy for Date Nights is not a good thinghmm

In my defence we never really got any pre-children time anyway as I had DD1 about 14 months after our first shag date. And DP is quite fiercely private and rather likes spending most of the evening in a different room - quite often on a different floor of our house. I've got used to this and in some ways appreciate it - it makes it possible for me to have my own social life - but I do also find it a bit hurtful as it implies I'm not really worth spending the evening with.

bigTillyMint Wed 30-Apr-14 20:52:40

MI we spend every evening in the same room, but DH is far more interested in his ipad than me!

SheherazadeSchadenfreude Wed 30-Apr-14 20:58:30

Stropps, I made a Sicilian herb omelette once, which did not meet with rapturous applause. DD2 said it "tasted like sick" and she did have a point. I'd stick with spuds, onions and peppers.

We are having a sort of date night tomorrow, in that we are going out to see a friend (one of mine; DH doesn't have friends) in a play. DH has asked if we have to go...

CointreauVersial Wed 30-Apr-14 21:06:09

Oh Windy, hope she's OK.

MI - we are also in full SATS prep mode. DD2 claimed that she "aced" her Maths test paper today, then was found fast asleep on the sofa about ten minutes later. DS and DD1 both have exams in the next month, so it's going to be an interesting few weeks.

Grass pie.grin I love it how families are so receptive to new dishes, so balanced in their feedback, after we've slaved away in an attempt to bring them something interesting to eat......

beachyhead Wed 30-Apr-14 21:08:12

I liked that NY Times piece, Crem.

I can't believe how many canvas phobic dh's there are hmm. I will admit, there are a few people who crrreeeep into the house late on Camp Night and find a small corner, so they don't have to sleep next to a snoring, bonfire smelling dh!

We don't do date nights either - we used to do lunch dates when dh had one weekday off a month and I liked that, but evenings means one person has to be the designated driver, which is never as much fun!

Art AS tomorrow....still undecided on which piece to draw....she's really into etchings and keeps asking me to 'Come and see my etchings' which makes me laugh. Can't remember where the saying comes from

Blackduck Wed 30-Apr-14 21:08:51

Ds is also in SATS mode - I am trying too downplay it...

Dp sounds like Mr MI - far happier in his own company. It does make you wonder....

NearTheWindymill Wed 30-Apr-14 21:18:58

It took two hours. Dinner has been served. The diagnosis: stress (GCSE) related dysfunctional bowel. It has calmed her down because she was working herself up to what would happen if she couldn't revise until Monday. We had a chat on the way home about 100% not being essential in exams sad. And then a chat about it doesn't matter if she even gets A* on a scrape because HE got 99% for four subjects and she can't ever be as good.

Why is parenting so hard?

motherinferior Wed 30-Apr-14 21:28:51

Poor both of you, Windy.

In all honesty you wouldn't know DD2 had Sats, but I suspect it's playing more on her mind than she admits.

beachyhead Wed 30-Apr-14 21:40:03

Poor you and dd, Windy. Try some Buscopan or peppermint oil capsules. Might help calm it. My ds suffers stress related IBS and it has such a strong physical effect.

NearTheWindymill Wed 30-Apr-14 21:46:40

Exactly what the lovely doctor recommended Beachy. She's going to school tomorrow and Friday - study leave next week. Usually I hate working at but I'll get myself organised tomorrow and arrange to work at home as much as I can for the next few weeks. You think they are so grown up.

PS - dd's the only family member who likes camping. DH remembers camping and licking a cornet shared with his sisters as a child and will never go back to "holiday misery". I'm sure he'd like it if his parents had enjoyed themselves.

Cremolafoam Wed 30-Apr-14 21:47:54

I thought it was interesting Beachy

Exam stress here too. Dd is almost permanently bordering on wibbly. and tired beyond reason. Was back in her pyjamas at 5pm
The actual exams are so spread out at A2. First one on 5th May and last one on 19th June. I predict a meltdown or two between now and then. And May is hectic at work, what with the Giro and festival season being upon me.
Tonight in the spirit of Mr.Ottolenghi I made his caramelised garlic tart which was heavenly. I seem to be eating my way through the stress... Oops
Windy, sorry to hear dd is under the cosh too, but glad it wasn't appendicitis too.

NearTheWindymill Wed 30-Apr-14 21:55:12

It was really awful at the hospital. Absolutely heaving. There were gentlemen with dementia from local nursing homes; people who were drunk; people who were in a far far worse state than us. I felt so guilty at having "wasted" the doctor's time although we went on the recommendation of the school nurse.

bigTillyMint Wed 30-Apr-14 22:24:40

Melt-down here tonight too. Not exactly exam relatedsad

Still, it seems fairly normal for most teensconfused

Cremo, I am finding that I am resorting heavily to chocolate - at least the caramelised onion tart sounds a bit healthy!

Windy, glad it wasn't appendicitis, but sympathies.

Stropperella Wed 30-Apr-14 22:37:25

I enjoyed the article too, Crem.

Sorry to hear your dd is suffering exam stress too, Windy, but good that it's not appendicitis.

Dd has something like 24 exams between May 12th and June 14th. This morning did not start well. There was screaming and crying and my attempts to calm her by offering breakfast were only rewarded by a bowl being lobbed down the stairs. I just focused on getting ds and his friend to their school swimming at that point and then gave the dog an extended walk. Dd eventually got herself together to do the work that was needed and then went to school after break. There was more squeaking and teeth-gnashing this evening, but I think we have now sorted out the issues for today. However, all this has severely messed up my already tight work schedule. Bum. hmm

I'm another one put off Ottolenghi by the ridiculously long list of ingredients.

Oh no. I have to work. I want to go to bed.

NearTheWindymill Wed 30-Apr-14 22:39:35

Bowl throwing would be a relief. It's the outer calm and inner panic I can't deal with - nothing is wrong until she tips over - ever.

Cremolafoam Thu 01-May-14 00:03:53

Windy , yes I can relate.
Dd completely flatlining on the outside. I ask repeatedly if she's ok , to which I get 'yeh fine'
Then dh will tell me she wept in the car, or I'll hear muffled animated / enraged conversations on the phone behind her slammed shut bedroom door.
There's clearly a maelstrom in her 'hinterland'sad

Dh keeps muttering " Brace , brace" and hiding behind the FT angry

Blackduck Thu 01-May-14 06:05:20

Oh dear all - hope it improves today.
My admins son got a D for his DTC project work and was/is devastated as it means best he can get is a c (or generously a B ) overall. He has belated realised he needs to buck his ideas up. However on the flip side his school are great and taking the 'sod it, as long as you get the grades to get you into the 6th form and on to the a levels you want' which I find very pragmatic as an approach.....

bigTillyMint Thu 01-May-14 06:57:02

Well done Stropps for weathering the storm. I don't bother to try to offer breakfast - just give her those breakfast biscuits for latersmile There is no outer calm here!

hattymattie Thu 01-May-14 07:23:50

Here we're swinging into a cycle of Thursday bank holidays which is immensely disruptive in the run up to exams and also means we miss lots of Physics lessons.

DD1 seems to be in a state of resigned calm so no bowl throwing at least not yet. I'm not sure how I'd deal with that Stropps. We are in the process of having interviews for French uni's here and they seem to tell you at the last possible moment so we risk a clash between language orals and uni interviews plus a lot of time off school.

I have discovered that the German oral will be in another town 20 mins up the motorway (les mureaux for Mrs S). I've had to clear the decks so I can drive her up there as it's an hour and several changes by public transport. At least if they selected a Lycée in central Paris everybody could get there.

lalsy Thu 01-May-14 07:38:51

I hope all storms subside today for exam-ridden dc.

dd says she is stressed - she says she she is confused about her future, confused about what she is confused about, is worried university may require going through doors with no labels on confused and worried she won't get the grades for university. She is quite a stressy/anxious person anyway, but at least at her age I feel I can offer tea and sympathy not revision support. Much of the time she seems fine but I do think the build up to leaving home and school, and mixed feelings and hopes about that, gets wrapped up with A2s.

hattymattie Thu 01-May-14 08:12:28

Exactly Lalsy - DD1 confessed that she was really anxious about leaving home, her friends, changing country. It's true, her move is much greater than mine, I was only an hour away so could nip back home for a weekend if I needed to?

lalsy Thu 01-May-14 08:26:04

That is a big move, Hatty. Does she know people here?

I think dd's feelings are mixed. She is ready to leave school, but has loved it and much of her life has been bound up with it. She says she can't wait to go to university but is scared too. We talked last night about how it will become normal - with rain, recycling, laundry and so on (bet you are all envious of my inspirational talks with my dc aren't you? smile), because I think it is important to remember it is normal life, they are not going to Mars.

motherinferior Thu 01-May-14 09:40:35

I am having a rather dreadful day caught between designer, publisher and client and may cry quite a lot.

Stropperella Thu 01-May-14 09:55:08

Ach, bowl-throwing is the least of it round here. Volatility is the name of the game. I once threw an entire stack of plates over a balcony during a row with her father (and could list, um, a few other incidents, but I won't blush ) so as long as the bowl isn't aimed at me (it wasn't), I don't actually find it that bad. Better that she does that than some of the more self-destructive things she used to get up to 18 months ago.

Lalsy and Hatty, I think the fact that your dds are feeling anxious about the big changes ahead is healthy and normal. There are, after all, plenty of students who struggle hugely in the first term or so precisely because they hadn't thought about the implications of really living away from home. I love the sound of your inspirational talks, lalsy. Can I book one? grin

Found ddog this morning sitting in front of the kitchen radio staring at it and wagging his tail furiously. The Today Programme had a report about the origins of the Dogger Bank (shipping forecast fans ahoy!). Stropdog had clearly heard "Dogger" several times and was waiting for them to say something else of interest like "cat" or "sausages".

herbaceous Thu 01-May-14 10:07:45

MI - I used to spend my entire life like that as an editor of contract magazines. It's shit.

lalsy Thu 01-May-14 10:42:40

Stropps, grin

MI, do throw a bowl or three.

herbaceous Thu 01-May-14 10:48:23

Mad pet here too. The cat has pulled the washing off the airer to lie on. He always does this, despite there being umpteen other soft and comfy places to choose from. Today's choice of garment is DS's school trousers, fortunately also black.