The Crepey Cube

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cremolafoam Tue 04-Feb-14 20:26:16


QueenQueenie Tue 04-Feb-14 21:14:02

Nicely done Crem! wine back at you...

HAPPY BIRTHDAY Mrs S. Hope your dinner was delicious.

My lovely boys are, thank God, so far at least 1000x more sensible than I ever was as a teenager... on the other hand my parents showed so little interest in what I was up to that it bordered on neglect. I tell dss this and how horrible it was when they find me overly intrusive.

Stropps, <stern look>, you need an appointment sooner than that and you need to tell it how it is, not how it is when you are putting s very brave face on things.

hattymattie Tue 04-Feb-14 21:14:33

Well done Crem (chinks wine glasses).winesmile

Blackduck Tue 04-Feb-14 21:32:52

Hi all brew here as feeling slightly dodgy - we appear to be passing the germs around amongst us Chez Blackduck, and they are mutating....

RudyMentary Tue 04-Feb-14 21:33:06

Yay Crem wine I'm sticking with this name for a while.

Hattie and MrsS - what are your recommendations for my impending weekend away. I've been a few times before so have seen the usual stuff and I'm kind of going with the flow as others have organised it but I ought to have some brilliant idea up my sleeve in case I'm asked! grin we have booked a restaurant for the Saturday night

lalsy Tue 04-Feb-14 21:33:59


Ha! Sprung from parents' evening.

I got quite into cocktails at university but they didn't go well with a course involving 9 o'clock lectures six days a week. Then, like you NUF, things turned grim as my father got cancer and died when I was 24/25. I felt so old, and different, for a while and then had the dc. So there may be a party animal deep down inside me, but I suspect it was never to be as I don't like standing up, crowds, loud music or feeling tired - and never did!

Is it Friday yet? smile

bigTillyMint Tue 04-Feb-14 22:01:09

Oh yes, cocktails - Happy Hour at Henry's. Zombiesgrin
Maybe Knicker Droppers were a Northern thing?!

Sorry to hear about the sad times though.

cremolafoam Tue 04-Feb-14 22:24:08


hattymattie Wed 05-Feb-14 06:13:20

Now you see, B52 makes me think if group before cocktails. I love The Love

Rudy - I'll get my thinking cap on although as a banlieusard I'm not very good at off the beaten track. what are you after - museums or shops or just general wandering around?

Blackduck Wed 05-Feb-14 06:21:29

I was a pint of bitter girl in my yoof... So sophisticated ;). Cocktails - nah - not a big spirit drinker at the time.

Cherry B BTM? Yuck.......

bigTillyMint Wed 05-Feb-14 06:27:06

Love both kinds of B52's!

Yes, BD, let's just say I wouldn't go back to drinking them. You could also mix a bottle of Babycham into a pint of cider.... I was obviously a top-drawer girl back in the daysmile

NUFC69 Wed 05-Feb-14 07:15:41

Ooh, Babycham with a cherry, another sophistocat here. Haven't had one of those for years, do they even still make Babycham?

Blackduck Wed 05-Feb-14 07:17:48

God yes - babycham - snowballs on NYE!!

NUFC69 Wed 05-Feb-14 07:40:29

DD asked for a snowball over Christmas - we had advocaat but no lime juice. I couldn't believe I had forgotten to get some. sad

Then there are those other "grown up" drinks like Dubonnet. Haven't had that for donkey's years either.

Auriga Wed 05-Feb-14 07:50:59

I bypassed the teenage drinking: put off the whole idea by father's alcoholism. Didn't put my sisters and brother off, I have to say. So far, DD has shown no interest at all and I'm nervous about how I'll cope when she does. Just do the exact opposite of everything my mother did, for a start grin.

Glad mini-Herbs's operation went well.

How are you today, Stropps?

bigTillyMint Wed 05-Feb-14 08:13:44

Auriga, my father was an alcoholic too. It didn't put me off thoughblush and it didn't put me off men who drank too much, DH apart! And I worry about the DC.

beachyhead Wed 05-Feb-14 08:16:59

Found you! Anyone finding this thread for the first time will be completely bemused. First 15 posts detailing vintage drinks in the S&B topic!

We had a local bar who handed out small teddies depending on how many B52's you drank. For some reason, this seemed a reasonable challenge to accept. This was in our mid twenties though!

motherinferior Wed 05-Feb-14 08:32:12

Many things in one's mid-20s seem acceptable, of course grin

Thank heavens today's 9am meeting has been shifted to a lunch meeting tomorrow must not have glass of wine and be indiscreet as DD1 is ill. Though also thank heavens she is old enough to leave while I go to the supermarket later. All glamour, my life.

Blackduck Wed 05-Feb-14 08:43:40

Dubonnet! God that brings back memories (mainly of a friend being spectacularly sick on it - not once, but several times...)

motherinferior Wed 05-Feb-14 10:45:10

I am supposed to be writing another feature and don't feel like it at ALL.

addle Wed 05-Feb-14 11:02:58

Can I add to our list of vintage drinks - Ricard, which I mistakenly thought made me look cool in the pub at college, and Cointreau, which I took up to college with me under the impression that it was incredibly sophisticated.

I was so uncool and provincial as a teenager that I didn't even realise how uncool I was ... many painful flashbacks now

RudyMentary Wed 05-Feb-14 11:03:53

I do admire you MI. I couldn't just sit there and write significant stuff. I'm ok at writing inane drivel on here but would lack the inspiration for anything more.

I have the giggles this morning for no apparent reason hmm

RudyMentary Wed 05-Feb-14 11:05:58

Hattie - anything would be good thanks.
Personally I love sitting with a glass in hand watching the workd go by but I should have some input to the proceedings I feel.

bigTillyMint Wed 05-Feb-14 11:06:10

Oh, Ricard! I remember one French exchange where we went back to one girls house after church(!) for an apperitif. The dad offered us all a Ricard and I, having never tasted it before, asked for a large glass. How he must have laughed. I have never drunk it since and hate the taste of aniseedgrin

motherinferior Wed 05-Feb-14 11:06:14

Oh, Rudy, I wish I could be a proper writer (am drivelling on about this on FB atm!).

I like Cointreau blush

I may purchase some Aldi vermouth later (this evening) and make a Mixed Martini, that's how glam I am grin

bigTillyMint Wed 05-Feb-14 11:08:02

I went off Martini and Cinzano too - it was our idea of being sophisticated in the pub aged 15/16!

lalsy Wed 05-Feb-14 11:11:56

I love gin martini. But back in the day was a pint of bitter girl, with silly cocktail with parasol in for special occasions.

I got the giggles this morning at a thread saying "Solva or Fishguard?" - someone posted saying phew I thought this was a baby names

MrsSchadenfreude Wed 05-Feb-14 11:22:25

A nice glass of Gin & It as an aperitif? Don't mind if I do. grin

Drinks from childhood - we only really got alcohol in at Christmas, so a big tin of Watney's Party Seven, a half bottle of MacFisheries own brand scotch, decanted into a full sized bottle of Teacher's so that we wouldn't look poor. Tinned pineapple juice. Tinned orange juice (both for Auntie June who didn't drink). Martini (red and white, white for Auntie June who sometimes did have a drink "although I really shouldn't"). A nice bottle of Liebfraumilch. Uncle Eric used to bring a couple of bottles of Black Tower or Blue Nun because he was sophisticated and worked in Soho. No French wine. No red wine. But if the Hungarian contingent were coming for Christmas, we usually had a few bottles of Bull's Blood. And a bottle of Fundador brandy, left over from the two weeks in the Costa del Sol.

cremolafoam Wed 05-Feb-14 11:22:59

grin @ lalsy.

MrsSchadenfreude Wed 05-Feb-14 11:24:53

Rudy - re Paris, I always took visitors to the passages and often to the Marche St Pierre, which is where all the material is sold, then for lunch at the Bar No Problemo and a gentle stroll up the hill to Montmartre. I also took MI to my favourite restaurant. I love the Ile St Louis too.

herbaceous Wed 05-Feb-14 12:20:57

I think my tipples would vary enormously. Vodka and lime (cordial) or orange (cordial or juice), bacardi and coke, 'snake and black' (snakebite with blackcurrant), vodka and lemonade, Southern Comfort, lager and lime, black velvet (guiness and special brew) - this was a particular favourite before clubbing, as you were half cut before you even got to the club.

bigTillyMint Wed 05-Feb-14 12:31:45

MrsS, my father got the Watneys when his mates came round (don't think he got out his scotch!), and I remember the tinned juices!

Herbs, my mate and I drank V&O in the pub when we were going clubbing!

motherinferior Wed 05-Feb-14 12:34:15

My parents were middle class and allegedly cosmopolitan so much Sainsbury's Rioja was consumed.

Inspired by this thread I may also purchase green olives for said martini.

Blackduck Wed 05-Feb-14 12:57:11

MrsS - Bulls Blood! Another blast from the past! Can't count the number of bottles of that I consumed......

And the Roddy Doyle comment 'blue or black?' (Blue Nun or Black Tower)......

NUFC69 Wed 05-Feb-14 13:00:31

I have been puzzling all morning about the sophisticated wine we used to buy in a sort of round bottle. Have just remembered that it was Mateus Rose. Can you still buy it I wonder?

Big problem of the day is where to go for a holiday in May (DD goes back to work after ML in June). Last April when I was on the big diet we decided to stay in UK and went to north Devon - the weather was dire, but evidently nice in the NE. sad Any suggestions welcome as I can see an argument looming with DH. We're not really looking for a beach type holiday but I am open to anything. We both quite fancied going to Canada and doing a rail trip but the cost is prohibitive when we know we're going to California in the autumn.

RudyMentary Wed 05-Feb-14 13:01:13

Thanks MrsS - is your favourite restaurant the one you linked to before? I hope to go there one evening but I've been over-ruled for the Saturday night.

CointreauVersial Wed 05-Feb-14 13:03:39

I love Cointreau (well, obv, just check out me name, innit).

And I had a Snowball on Burns Night - we all had one - served in a retro cocktail saucer with a maraschino cherry on a stick. Mmmm.

My drink of choice throughout much of my time at university? Lime and soda. blush A bargain, at 10p; I could make one last all night. I only started to like beer when I spent the summer in the US after my third year.

Told you I was square OK, OK, so I turned into a total lush in my later years

RudyMentary Wed 05-Feb-14 13:05:06

NUFC - Umbria, Italy would be my recommendation. We went in 2012 and want to I back this year. We went to California las year.

I'm just on my way to the tip having had a clear-up in Steptoes Yard the garden.

bigTillyMint Wed 05-Feb-14 13:06:09

Oh yes, I remember the Mateus Rose in the cupboard. I think you can still get it!

NU, DH was thinking about Croatia or MonteNegro in the summer (friends have been and loved them), but the DC vetoed them as we are going to Prague and Budapest at Easter!

Blackduck Wed 05-Feb-14 13:18:01

Mateuas Rose is still big in Germany (was one of the first wines I ever had as my dad was stationed out there...) - went to Munich a couple of years ago and there it was!

motherinferior Wed 05-Feb-14 13:23:17

I have just googled and it appears to be available at a wide variety of supermarket outlets...

I am wodging words onto the page.

QueenQueenie Wed 05-Feb-14 13:24:56

Bloody hell, you lot are making me feel queasy just reading this thread. The very thought of cinzano rose <boak> make me shudder after a drunken swimming pool party in my teens that is forever imprinted on my memory.... ditto grappa.
Am a complete lightweight these days. Dh has been a very good influence on me as he drinks very little and just looks puzzled and a bit sad at the idea that being drunk might be fun.

motherinferior Wed 05-Feb-14 13:27:43

DP gave up drink completely about 18 months ago.

QueenQueenie Wed 05-Feb-14 13:27:44

what exactly does wodging mean MI?!

motherinferior Wed 05-Feb-14 13:35:05

It means a cross between wedging and shoving, really. So far I have put together lots of sections, with the notes to be written up into each one with a max of 200 words per section in order to meet word length. Now I must write a couple...

herbaceous Wed 05-Feb-14 13:37:52

Brandy and babycham was a bit of a favourite when 'celebrating'. When you weren't on the Pomagne, natch.

Did another ladystagger this morning, squeezing it in before the rains. Oddly find the first two jogging sections harder than the later ones. Could barely finish the first 90 seconds, but the last one I could have carried on... Then went to NCT pal's house for regular meet up, and had sausage and fried egg rolls. MMMMMMMMMMM. And a fairy cake.

motherinferior Wed 05-Feb-14 13:45:22

I really want to title a feature on exercise in pregnancy 'run, fat girl, run'...but I can't.

QueenQueenie Wed 05-Feb-14 13:49:08

or maybe "weebles wobble but they don't fall down?"

NUFC69 Wed 05-Feb-14 14:03:28

Croatia was one of the llaces we were thinking about, BMT. After poo-pooing Sri Lanka yesterday now DH thinks he might quite like it.

Rudy, our last trip to Italy was not a huge success - we went on a package to Lake Garda; was appalled at Verona at graffiti and also plastic seats for the opera despoiling the coliseum. Where were you in California? We started off in San Francisco, went to Santa Rosa and then Lake Tahoe. We came back from Phoenix. Can't wait to go back.

motherinferior Wed 05-Feb-14 14:13:09

We are on the same page, QQ. Sadly it is a page of a rather different magazine.

QueenQueenie Wed 05-Feb-14 14:28:16

Off to take ddog to the poncy groomers. It's all go here!

MrsSchadenfreude Wed 05-Feb-14 14:42:31

I went to a family wedding once where the toast was in Pomagne. The groom was supposed to be marrying someone else the month before, it was all called off at the last minute, and days later we got another wedding invitation with another bride. It didn't last. A few years later he got married to someone else. She was very very posh and her parents were, frankly, horrified at how far down she was marrying. That didn't last either (I think it was less than a year) - he set fire to someone's house and got put away. He is now on his 5th marriage...

motherinferior Wed 05-Feb-14 14:45:54

He makes my list of exes look shiny and new.

On to the next section...

beachyhead Wed 05-Feb-14 14:46:57

He sounds lovely!

The weather here is so atrocious, that it is frankly scary. Lashing wind and rain - there is no way you could even venture out anywhere.....

Blackduck Wed 05-Feb-14 15:02:23

MrsS - and I thought Eastenders was far fetched smile

I keep thinking about giving up, but, I like it too much smile

herbaceous Wed 05-Feb-14 15:40:43

I've been thinking our south-westerly crepeys, and hoping they're still inside an upright, dry house. It all looks faintly apocalyptic.

bigTillyMint Wed 05-Feb-14 16:52:19

Poor you Beachy - I had to walk to a meeting in the wind and rain today and it was vile, but nowhere near as bad as you've had.

NU, we are thinking of either Sri Lanka or Costa Rica (independent stylie) in the summer!

RudyMentary Wed 05-Feb-14 17:02:28

NUFC. We did Italy independently. Flights, accommodation, car etc. Umbria is the heart of Italy so landlocked. Many Romans holiday/own property there. It was beautiful, quiet, unspoilt and cheap to eat/drink out. Assisi is in Umbria.

California? We started in San Fran (from New
York) and then drove to Yosemite, Carmel, Big Sur, Santa
Barbara, Palm Springs and Las Vegas - we flew home from there. Where are you going his time?

bigTillyMint Wed 05-Feb-14 17:07:50

Rudy, stop it! I soooo want to go to California!

herbaceous Wed 05-Feb-14 17:11:20

So do I! Again! I did San Fran, Big Sur, LA, Las Vegas, Grand Canyon, Yosemite, San Fran. I bloody LOVED it.

Currently plagued by draughts. There's one howling in from the understairs cupboard, one seems to be coming round the loft hatch, and a massive great hurricane coming through the cat flap. Fannying about with draught-proofing strip seems to be making no difference.

Is this obsession yet another sign of crepeydom?

RudyMentary Wed 05-Feb-14 17:11:27

grin BTM
I'm done with Vegas now but that drive down the PCH is something I have promised myself I will do again before I die.

RudyMentary Wed 05-Feb-14 17:14:24

I'm thinking ahead to this year now though and where to go.
DH has just got a bonus wink

motherinferior Wed 05-Feb-14 17:19:34

DP wants to go to Venice.

I am sticking my fingers in my ears and going lalalala about money.

Also I am going - I AM GOING, dammit - to India in November. I may need help sorting this out...grin

RudyMentary Wed 05-Feb-14 17:21:18

India MI?
In November?

Well of course you are!
What needs sorting?

hattymattie Wed 05-Feb-14 17:28:52

God, just saw the railway line in the west country. Who said global warming wasn't happening?

On the cocktail front - an honourable mention for Southern Comfort and lemonadesmile

Rudy - I really like the area around St Andre des Arts. Metro St Michel, walk up rue St Andre etc and at the end cross the Boulevard St Germain into St Germain de Pres and eglise St Sulphice. You can then cut back up and take the Pont Des Arts which will bring you back to the Louvre.

What is your fav restaurant Mrs S?

Hope you're feeling a bit better today Stropps and that herbs junior has made a full and speedy recovery.

NUFC69 Wed 05-Feb-14 17:46:08

Rudy, we'll probably do the same again this year. We have friends in Santa Rosa and they have invited us again if we want to go. Last year we were at Tahoe with DS and his family so this time I would like to do some more cycling as it wasn't practical with a one year old. A couple of years ago we stayed north of LA for a couple of days and then drove down towards San Diego - I love the PCH, I kept on making DH stop every, so it seemed, hundred yards or so, as I was drooling over the marine life. I was beside myself when I saw a pair of dolphins swimming along parallel to the shore. The only place which you mention that we haven't visited is Yosemite.

I am quite taken with the idea of Umbria now - watch this space.

On a S & B note, we decided to go to the Metro Centre this afternoon so we could have a walk in the dry (dragged DH along). We actually went into Debenhams to have a free tea/coffee with our DT subscription and ended up buying - in my case a lovely dusky pink trench mac, and in his case a thick waterproof jacket suitable for all winter weather, a shirt and a sweater. I felt quite virtuous as he spent more money than I did.

motherinferior Wed 05-Feb-14 18:34:29

I shall share (ie get you all to kick me into touch) about India at another point. Am exhausted and run-down atm. DP has texted me saying he has picked up blackcurrant lemsip, balm-infused tissues and hedrin. I texted back saying romance isn't dead, then grin

But at least I've finished my Run Fat Girl Run feature, though I see I am supposed to be interviewing an expert for it tomorrow (oops). And tomorrow I have to write about children and gut problems. Such fun.

Blackduck Wed 05-Feb-14 18:35:36

Oh MI what help do you need???
And all this talk of forin locations is making me envy as we are not likely to get anywhere this year.

NUFC69 Wed 05-Feb-14 19:45:11

MI, DH used to go to India on business; not as often as some of his colleagues, but often enough. Some of them used to cut their stays as short as possible and exist on Mars bars whilst they were there. DH was once extremely ill and, in fact, his stomach problems now probably lead directly back to that incident. Not wishing to put you off .....

We did briefly discuss going there for a holiday but he was quite adamant that it would upset me too much as the poverty is so appalling. Also I do remember him telling me that at one hotel when he got up to go to the loo in the middle of the night, there was lots of crunching as he walked - cockroaches on the floor. - shudder - . However his last trip was 2007/8 so perhaps it has improved since then.

motherinferior Wed 05-Feb-14 20:43:59

Ah, NUFC, my mother is from India and I've lived there at various points as a child, so my Stuff is a bit different. I haven't been back for about 17 years and for a number of reasons am finding it hard to gear myself up for it. Though in all honesty the prospect of some fabulous food is a lure - I'm more of a 'stuff yourself on South Indian idlis' than a Mars Bar girlgrin

NUFC69 Wed 05-Feb-14 21:18:25

Ah, MI, totally different situation then. Family can always be relied on when hoteliers may not. You might as well go for it. And I will be interested to hear your comments after you get back - you never know I might be able to persuade DH to go again.

cremolafoam Wed 05-Feb-14 21:33:53

Agh just had a full invite to wedding in Vegas ! I thought we'd just be invited to the knees up here. Quandary now as I was plannconfusedng to go to NYC with a friend this year. And the friend has also been invited to the Vegas wedding.wink

Ah Rudy paris , I second that wander suggested by Hatty but would throw in the rue de Buci and possibly a wander through the Luxembourg gardens while you're about it.
Or if you're heading towards Notre dame there are nice shops on the Ile St. Louis and of course Bertillon for an icecream.
Fave places to eat for us:
trad bistro
operated as a co-op workers cafe/ good value elbow to elbow

place in the 14th
best-falafel-las-du-falafel-mi-va-mi-chez-marianne-the-marais-paris-france.html falafels to go but worth waiting for a seat]]
Latin quarter excellent food
And a trip to the Musee d'orsays dining room at lunchtime is a delight. Also book able on Thursday evenings I think.grin

RudyMentary Wed 05-Feb-14 21:36:07

Thanks Crem, MrsS and Hattie for the recommendations - I will print them off

Crem - GO!! Do NYC another time - how exciting!!

NUFC69 Wed 05-Feb-14 22:19:10

Crem, I am afraid I am very shallow, I love Vegas. Strangely enough I think that Vegas and NYC have the same sort of vibe. I am not a city person at all. There is an energy in both that I find appealing. I would opt for the wedding, too though, as you can go to NYC any time.

MrsSchadenfreude Wed 05-Feb-14 23:24:54

Mi-va-mi was my falafel of choice in the Marais. I am not putting my favourite resto on here for all the hoi polloi to see as it is small and off the beaten track, but if you want to go, PM me. You will need a French speaker to book it, and say that I sent you. MI can vouch for its deliciousness. Best food anywhere, and I have eaten in some fairly poncy places in my time.

MrsSchadenfreude Wed 05-Feb-14 23:26:08

Blackduck - my family are just like Eastenders - less violent and slightly less bent than the Mitchells.

lalsy Thu 06-Feb-14 08:10:14

I am feeling very crepey this week....

My only trip to the US was to California - San Francisco, bit of Route 1, Yosemite, Death Valley, place with enormous trees and mountains, LA, San Diego. I'd love to go back.

motherinferior Thu 06-Feb-14 08:12:12

I have never been to the US. There, I've said it.

beachyhead Thu 06-Feb-14 08:27:27

I've never been to Scotland grin. I tried once, but the flight was cancelled because of fog.

RudyMentary Thu 06-Feb-14 08:33:19

I didn't go until I was over 40 MI but now I seem to have made a bit of a habit of it! DH goes a lot on business so his airmiles help wink

I dipped my toe over the border into Scotland once, just north of Newcastle really but have yet to visit Wales it Ireland.

bigTillyMint Thu 06-Feb-14 08:58:10

Me neither, MU. Unless you count a 6 hour stopover in Houston on the way back from Belize!

But I have been to Scotland - Borders and Edinburgh, Ireland - Dublin and Gallway, and Wales - loads of placessmile

Blackduck Thu 06-Feb-14 09:33:33

I have been to NY (wasn't that blown away tbh), and San Francisco (loved it...). Dp is refusing to ever go to the States again because the fuss they make over immigration!

I have done the Edinburgh Fringe several times (including as a performer) and stayed in Berwick Upon Tweed and Arran.......

MrsSchadenfreude Thu 06-Feb-14 09:44:10

Blackduck, send your DH to Israel. Immigration at Ben Gurion airport makes the JFK bunch look like pussycats.

hattymattie Thu 06-Feb-14 10:02:18

Lalsy - I've done that US trip- it's definitely once in a lifetime trip for everybody.

Mrs S - could you PM me your secret restaurant - pretty please - have French husband so can book and would be good to impress him with a suggestion of my own.

Rudy - yes should have added - from St Sulphice you can either go back over the artists bridge as I suggested or south to the Jardins de Luxembourg and the Pantheon as Crem said.

My DD spent two weeks in India last year on a school exchange. She stayed with a local family and was not ill - she avoided fresh uncooked fruit and veg, except stuff that she could peel. Many of her classmates were less fortunate - so I don't know if she has a strong stomach or the fruit/veg strategy paid off.

NUFC69 Thu 06-Feb-14 10:24:58

Well the nearest I have been to Paris is the Periphique (many times! ). DH used to go a lot on business and does keep threatening to take me, especially as I am now more mobile.
We have a strategy normally for holidays - while we're able we are doing long haul, as we get crepy-er we will stick to Europe. Then it's the UK when we're really doddery.

Most of our holidays when the children were young consisted of camping/caravaning in France. I still haven't completely written off doing it again this May.

hattymattie Thu 06-Feb-14 10:43:27

I won't drive on the peripheriqueblush. I am perfectly good in my local area, on the Autoroute's and can do Paris to the North of England including the shuttle or ferry but I will not do the peripherique <folds arms and looks truculent>

lalsy Thu 06-Feb-14 10:43:46

Hatty, absolutely, I'd love it to be a twice in a lifetime trip and take the dc.....

hattymattie Thu 06-Feb-14 11:06:01

Me too Lalsy but with three children it's too expensive. When I did it with DH we were footloose and fancy free, also the DC's hate long car trips.

Blackduck Thu 06-Feb-14 11:07:48

MrsS it wasn't even at JFK - it was at Schiphol and then Minneapolis - Nearly missed his connecting flight..... However, on the way back he managed to lug a litre bottle of water through security and all connections - so clearly you can bomb on the way out of the US ;)

Ds wants me to take him to Paris so I may be coming back for tips on what to do/where to go with a 10 year in a bit......

lalsy Thu 06-Feb-14 11:13:05

I know. Those miles of fields with only a broccoli festival between you and terminal boredom....going to see how university finances pan out though and keep it in mind.

hattymattie Thu 06-Feb-14 11:18:53

BD grin. Yes Lalsy uni finances - I reckon no more holidays for the next ten yearssad. Until DC's of course are so wildly successful that they'll be payingwink.

herbaceous Thu 06-Feb-14 11:25:42

At LAX a few years ago we had the whole body scanner, general assumption that you're a bomber until you can prove otherwise, etc, then realised you can walk through from airside to landside (to find a decent shop) by squeezing round a temporary partition. Security might need a rethink.

I've got a very good (now gay, ex-boy)friend who lives in New York. I used to go about twice a year, and stay in his Greenwich Village apartment. He keeps inviting us over, but I fear it might not be suitable with a 4YO. The spare bed is essentially just off the sitting room, DS would be horribly jet-lagged the entire time, etc... I do love NYC though.

NUFC69 Thu 06-Feb-14 11:43:22

You think you are prepared for everything until a security woman comes towards you in Phoenix Sky Harbour (love that name), pinging on her rubber gloves - I still go cold thinking about it. Sanity reasserted itself when I realised that she wouldn't be doing anything - dubious, shall we say, in a public area. I was quite convinced that I must share a name with a terrorist as I was pulled over so often. My DSil who does look as if he might be one is never stopped. To be fair since the arrival of Estas I haven't had a problem.

DH now thinks that a Eurocamp caravan somewhere where we can cycle, plus a couple of days in Paris might be a good idea so I might get to see it yet!

cremolafoam Thu 06-Feb-14 11:44:49

Bd y dh is the same about us customs and refuses to go to the states on this basis . He is convinced that the finger printing / facial recognition thingy might steal his soul or something.
The good thing about going to the us from Ireland is that you can clear customs before you go on Irish soil . No waiting at JFK or Newark .
Mrs s I have also experienced the tel aviv security machine and it is horrendous. I have also been strip searched at schipol for no apparent reason ( withy my mumconfusedblush)
Lax is hell on earth. I agree with herbs about you being presumed to be a guilty terrorist unless you can prove otherwise . It sure as hell doesn't help to have Belfast emblazoned on your passport.
Glad to have Irish and British passports sometimes .wink

lalsy Thu 06-Feb-14 11:58:52

We flew somewhere just after that fluid scare, from an airport staffed by exhausted, tense-looking men with sub machine guns. I said firmly to the dc, "Do exactly what they tell you, no matter what". The guy then didn't beckon dd forward through the body scanner and so she asked if she should walk through it. Straight-faced, he said no, go through on your hands. So she did a handstand and walked through on her hands. It certainly broke the tension.

motherinferior Thu 06-Feb-14 12:06:55

Mr Inferior, being a chap whose Touch of the Tarbrush is, as they say, very evident - and also bearing a surname of distinct Muslim origins - is always searched.

I, being a nice white laydee whose antecedents are thoroughly concealed, am not.

cremolafoam Thu 06-Feb-14 12:09:02


lalsy Thu 06-Feb-14 12:13:47

I have never been stopped at airports either. And despite living in one of the drug capitals of London for 20 years, have never been offered any but people are always asking me directions. I think I must look like an undercover police officer - the woolover effect perhaps?

NUFC69 Thu 06-Feb-14 12:24:52

I know where you are coming from, MI, but as I said I invariably used to be searched and am a white middle aged woman, but DSoniL who looks Middle Eastern is never touched. I always think he looks like a terrorist, black haired and bearded as he is (not wishing to stereotype here). The difference I guess with your DH is that son in law has a traditional English name. We should all be treated the same.

Blackduck Thu 06-Feb-14 12:46:37

I am always asked if ds is my son, now I know we don't share the same surname, but if you had seen him and me together it is pretty clear we share the same gene pool......
Last time they asked him who I was and he said 'Blackduck' and she said 'yes, but what relation is she to you' and he said 'my mum' and then proceeded to give them chapter and verse on me, his dad, our living arrangements, marital status - the works!

Dp, in a fit of madness, grew a full set of facial hair, had his passport photo taken and then shaved it all off, and he wonders why he gets stopped!

CointreauVersial Thu 06-Feb-14 13:15:08

I've never had a problem getting through airports, but DS is always threatening to make some sort of puerile joke about "bombs in his backpack" at security. I have explained that immigration officers are not known for their senses of humour, although the one that encountered Lalsy's DD is clearly the exception.

I love the US; I spent four months working there as a student (flying kites on a beach - great job!) and did a few "tours". Unfortunately, taking all five of us there on holiday is more than our budget will stretch to at the moment.

bigTillyMint Thu 06-Feb-14 13:21:34

Lalsy, Woolover effectgrin I have not been offered anything in years either!

We don't generally get searched, but both DH and I were in Gatwich pre-skiing last year. It's the having to remove boots, belts, etc that is so wearing.

Stropperella Thu 06-Feb-14 15:21:15

Hello all. Am slightly worried about posting this, as I fear this may be an S&B fail, but I have just bought myself (yet another) dress from here . It's all man-made fibres a-go-go, but I really like them anyway. And I don't do dresses or tunics as a rule. But these ones are good for shortarses. smile

QueenQueenie Thu 06-Feb-14 15:27:46

How are you lovely Stropps?
Some of those dresses are nice! Which one have you bought? Link?

motherinferior Thu 06-Feb-14 15:44:22

Ooh, I like them.

(Have you made your appointment <stern look>?)

RudyMentary Thu 06-Feb-14 15:49:00

Well I like them Strops.
What's more - I can see you wearing one iykwim.

..... and they won't need ironing!

Blackduck Thu 06-Feb-14 16:15:05

Hi Stropps! {{ }}
Liking some of those (and I am not a big floral person....) Hope you are feeling better and agree with Rudy...

BTW - forgot to say - I loved your cardi the other night.

Here I am hearing increasingly worrying things about my new boss (smiling crocodile being about the best) - I fear that at the next meet up I shall be in a corner with MrsS swopping stories about ABs.....

hattymattie Thu 06-Feb-14 16:24:47

I really like dresses Stropps, although less keen on the viscose. I'd be tempted to go for one or two and see how they hang/wash etc.

motherinferior Thu 06-Feb-14 16:25:57

Talking of MrsS, how many corkers do you think her appalling mother has come out with today at the funeral?

Blackduck Thu 06-Feb-14 16:37:45

Oh now there's a thought MI!
MrsS we need details.....

cremolafoam Thu 06-Feb-14 16:45:09

Stropps I can really see you in one of those tunics: I think they're gorgeous - ooh and another clothes website I'd it seen before - so thanks .grin

Lol mi I bet mrs s had had a trying afternoon. confused One way or another .

I am wearing my bargainous bought at a Danish jumble sale on Sunday Day Birger et Mikkelsen top. 20 krone
Could have gone bonkers at that place if I was a dogged ebayer. Piles of matinique/ Ilse jabobsen/ Vila stuff for pence.
Herbs You'll be delighted to hear Didrikssons abounded and were the outer wear du jourgrin

bigTillyMint Thu 06-Feb-14 16:59:43

Yes, I can see you in one of those Stropppssmile

I am so envy of all you lot who have been to the US. DH is not so keen (fears waddling back in outsized check trousers after all the food!) DS would kill to eat the Man-v-food meals he's always ogling on TVgrin

Just me and DS tonight - DD and her friend have gone off to Walthamstow to watch their mate play footy (if you fancy it, Herbs?!). Not the best of nights what with the weather and tube strike - fingers crossed they get there. At least they have a lift back with his mum! DH has yet another Parents Evening....

Stropperella Thu 06-Feb-14 17:06:49

Today I am wearing this , which I have had for a while and I have just purchased this, although I am a teeny bit worried that the latter may make me look like a sofa. They are made of quite heavyweight material and wash well with no bobbling etc. Also lovely and warm. Which is good when you are standing in a draughty school hall - which is where I was this morning.

Hope MrsS has survived today ok.

I have a doc's appmt tomorrow morning.

bigTillyMint Thu 06-Feb-14 17:20:57

Stropps, neither look sofaish, although I do like a good sofa print! And great news that you have a doc's appointment. Make sure you tell him/her how it is!

motherinferior Thu 06-Feb-14 17:35:23

Hurrah, Stropps! Now, look back at the last thread and print out a couple of posts...

addle Thu 06-Feb-14 17:39:26

Stropps that brown dress was the very one I admired from your previous link, am sure it looks v good

Hope all goes well with GP tomorrow, will be thinking of you.

BTM hope your dd survived the controlled a. ; my ds had one today - seems unruffled

bigTillyMint Thu 06-Feb-14 17:52:33

Addle, I think she did an ISA yesterday which she said went OK. Not sure if they finished it today?

NUFC69 Thu 06-Feb-14 17:54:28

I like the dresses, Stropps. I know you describe yourself as short, I am 5' 7", would they be very short on me, do you think? I have one dress which I wear occasionally and I do think that I should branch out.

Glad to hear that you have your GP's appointment; I hope it goes well. Don't be like me, tell it how it is so that they can help you.

I have actually done an hour on the exercise bike and then this afternoon went out for a walk - am now exhausted, but with a virtuous glow.

Stropperella Thu 06-Feb-14 18:33:31

NUFC, I'm 5' 2 and three quarters. (the three quarters is v. important grin ) and the first dress I linked to is about 2" above the knee on me, so I'd reckon they would be shortish on someone of 5' 7", but as they are thick material they look fine with thick tights/leggings and even skinny jeans (although my bum is a little large to get away with the latter). I'm a size 10-12 and I take their size 2. I'm assuming that the second dress I linked to will be a bit longer.

I have been doing my 2 jobs today (am school job, pm usual job), followed by taking ds to his piano lesson, then collecting him + friend from tae kwando and then I will go to circuits. I have also had a totally miserable walk in the bloody endless bloody rain with the dog. Who did a protest in the middle of the school lake field. I couldn't see him next to me or anywhere near and then when I finally spotted him, he was standing sadly in the middle of a giant puddle, just giving me the evils. I think he was saying "this is not a walk; this is long-distance paddling". I'm glad I'm probably going to be working the w/e and am not planning on going anywhere. I think Weymouth is about to float away...

hattymattie Thu 06-Feb-14 18:59:33

I like "long distance paddling".smile. I like the site Stropps but they don't give the garment composition on some of the garments like the knitwear for example.

Good luck with the GP appointment and I hope you're away from the floods.

RudyMentary Thu 06-Feb-14 21:32:33

Hope all goes well at the Drs Strops x

BD - having met you only once, I could have picked DS out as being yours from FB photos!

RudyMentary Thu 06-Feb-14 21:36:51

grin at dog Strops.
I had exactly the same with Rudydog today. I had arranged to meet a couple of friends or we would never have gone who have young dogs. They ran around all over the muddy fields and Rudydog was glued to my leg looking at me as if to say 'WTF are we doing out in this?' grin

motherinferior Thu 06-Feb-14 21:39:43

The Inferiorcats have stayed sensibly indoors, occasionally twitching a paw mid-snoozegrin

QueenQueenie Thu 06-Feb-14 21:43:45

wimpy ddog can tell it's raining at 100 paces and curls up in her bed like a hedgehog. She would never agree to go for a walk in the rain! She has us extremely well trained.

Stropperella Thu 06-Feb-14 22:14:21

Stroppdog has just gone out in the pouring rain for his second walk of the day, this time with dh (who will probably be working until 2am tonight). Stroppdog insists on going out twice a day in all weathers and in all states of health. Indeed, because of his patchwork appearance following his many operations, he is known to some people as Frankendog. He will not ever avail himself of the facilities available in our garden and is mightily insulted should one suggest this. I have, on occasion, booted him into the garden in the hope he might have a poo there, but he just sits in the middle of the lawn glaring balefully at the house and looking uncomfortable.

QueenQueenie Thu 06-Feb-14 22:29:54

Good luck for your appointment tomorrow Stropps. DON'T be all stiff upper lip and downplay what a hard time you have had recently <baleful stare>. Will be thinking of you.

Stropperella Thu 06-Feb-14 22:39:23

Thank you QQ smile

QueenQueenie Thu 06-Feb-14 22:45:13

You're welcome...

cremolafoam Thu 06-Feb-14 23:20:44

Thinking of you tomorrow Stropps . Do not leave that surgery without a definite plan. Wishing you courage,thanks

We have been out to dds music festival tonight and she nailed it , winning the girls vocal solo (18-25yrs) so her first silverware!! I am so proud! smile

QueenQueenie Thu 06-Feb-14 23:59:23

Wow Crem, that's fantastic. Well done to her. Did you need a tissue?

RudyMentary Fri 07-Feb-14 06:12:19

Brilliant Crem! How fantastic for all of you.

Thinking of you this morning Strops x

CV - I did note up thread about your epipen and glad you're getting it checked.

RudyMentary Fri 07-Feb-14 06:19:50

I have made notes for my weekend jaunt.
I'm going to save your restaurant for when I go with DH MrsS as we have more than enough to keep us going for a few days. I shall mainly be just drinking champagne grin

bigTillyMint Fri 07-Feb-14 06:48:00

flowers to Cremo's DD - fantastic!

Rudy, have fun. Paris is lovely, even in the rain (and my Parisian friend assures me they've had a lot, so pack your brolly and raincoat!)

Stropps, go for it!

Picked DD up from her mates at 10 last night - they managed to get to the footy ground (including a £20 cab taking 50mins!!!!) but the game was rained off, so they watched training and then went to Nandos. Quite an adventure getting there, but all good experience I guess!

hattymattie Fri 07-Feb-14 07:14:03

Must rush out but just came on to say Fab for your DD crem. Have fun Rudy and good luck Stropps xx

NUFC69 Fri 07-Feb-14 07:23:02

Congratulations to your Dd, Crem. I don't think I would have had the courage to watch as I am a whimp. Love singing but can't reach the high notes now. Must be wonderful to have a really good voice.

Thinking about you today, Stropps. Bon courage!

I had excruciatingly painful cramp in the night; presumably as a result of all of yesterday's exercise. I might try the bar of soap in bed trick tonight to see if that helps.

Going to a coffee morning in aid of the British Heart Foundation in memory of 23 yo who died after his heart transplant failed. So sad.

addle Fri 07-Feb-14 07:25:13

Bar of soap in bed NU?

Congrats Crem, how fab. is there a recording?

Hv great time Rudy

and good luck Stropps

cremolafoam Fri 07-Feb-14 07:30:38

shock Bar of soap- intrigued?

lalsy Fri 07-Feb-14 07:32:35

Oooh Crem, how wonderful. BTM, good for them, definitely good experience. Thank goodness for Nandos. Stropps, good luck today, and one day at a time after that.

NUFC69 Fri 07-Feb-14 07:44:11

Bar of soap between the sheets! I have heard this suggested several times, the last time being by the aquarobics teacher in Scottsdale last year. We all agreed that it was strange and we couldn't understand why but if it worked. . . I think I would rather try the soap than teacher's other suggestion of drinking pickle juice. DSis also read that too much citrus fruit doesn't help and I have been eating several clementines every day recently. Will report back about the soap.

bigTillyMint Fri 07-Feb-14 08:06:53

Never heard that about the soap! Stretching is usually the best way to sort itwink

TFIF, just wish it was 3pm now!

RudyMentary Fri 07-Feb-14 08:16:21

Flooded here!
House up a hill so we're ok but getting out is tricky.

Blackduck Fri 07-Feb-14 08:19:48

Thinking of you Stropps! And love the 'long distance paddle'. Dog will go out in the rain, but hates having his paws cleaned afterwards. He is so shaggy the rain sort of bounces off him....

See Rudy - I was right re ds and I!

Bar of soap? Does it matter what type? Could have done with that yesterday morning

beachyhead Fri 07-Feb-14 08:38:25

Hope the waters part enough for you to get to Paris, Rudy...

Both my dogs seem happy enough in the rain, but we are getting more and more limited in where to go as various roads have been flooded for weeks. We are off to the beach today - sand all of the kitchen floor rather than mud will make all the difference grin

I can't believe that the country's first statue of Charles Dickens is being unveiled today in Portsmouth (his birthplace)... You would have thought there would have been one before now.

Dd1 is off to NY on Wednesday for a College trip. Busy buying thermals for her from M&S and trying to persuade her that, even if she believes NY is the most fashionable city in the world, most New Yorkers won't bat an eyelid at sensible warm boots when it's -10 degrees!

beachyhead Fri 07-Feb-14 08:48:25

all over the kitchen floor...

And strength to Stropps today and here's hoping for an understanding and listening GP.

motherinferior Fri 07-Feb-14 08:58:57


The Outlaws With Whom I Do Not Get On are coming to the UK in July. I do realise this is quite a long time away but am already braced for it. I slightly think they hate me. (There are reasons for this, and I was v unwelcoming when they visited, I rather think, but also it was DP not just me and I cop all the blame.)

Blackduck Fri 07-Feb-14 09:07:50

I hope they are not staying with you MI!

Can you meet on neutral territory....

bigTillyMint Fri 07-Feb-14 09:24:00

MI, how long for?

NUFC69 Fri 07-Feb-14 10:18:57

Ouch, MI, I sympathise. Never had a MIL, though, so don't have any experience of that - but used to get very irritated with FIL when he was alive. It's fortunate that your ILs live out of the country.

It's quite a nice day here, but only 2 degrees C, so very cold. Was going to wear my lovely new pink trench when I went out, but have decided that I would rather be warm. Sympathies to those living in the south who are having "weather" and suffering from the floods. I hope Rudy gets away ok.

Nucat is sitting on the back of my chair; as he is sixteen in May he doesn't venture far these days, although sometimes he chases around like a maniac, leaping on the furniture and generally behaving like a yob.

motherinferior Fri 07-Feb-14 11:17:28

This is the Posh BIL and Princess Bride...fortunately they're not staying with us, as I think they think we live in dangerously squalid conditions (they nearly left straight after arriving last time).

Have been to a friend's birthday breakfast (get me! on a Friday!) and am feeling no pain, which is just as well as copy is back for a 'few tweaks' on the get outdoors feature...

herbaceous Fri 07-Feb-14 11:18:24

Ooh Crem, how thrilling. What did she sing? This is precisely what I want DS to be doing. He does skip down the road to his drama lessons, exclaiming 'Mummy, I love drama so much,' so maybe a life on the stage beckons. And he can sing in tune, and has a brill sense of rhythm. Enough to be the next Michael Bublé, I'm sure.

London seems to have escaped actual flooding, but it must be bloody awful for those under water. The only plus side is it might change the minds of one of two climate change sceptics. I sometimes wake up sweating in the middle of the night about what the future might hold for DS, if the worst climate change case scenario comes to pass.

And yes Stropps - you must bare your soul to the GP, however ghastly. It's the only way.

hattymattie Fri 07-Feb-14 11:38:26

Herbs - this is what I worry about as well. Is the Thames Barrier shut and doing its stuff at the moment?

New shower appears to be leaking. Why is it so complicated for us just to have a normal shower that worksangry.

hattymattie Fri 07-Feb-14 11:47:46

I'm listening to Pam Ayres on Radio 4. I'm finding her quite funny - I must be getting seriously crepeysmile

herbaceous Fri 07-Feb-14 11:50:42

I've always liked Pam Ayres. Though don't admit it to DP. He's a fan of 'proper poetry', which I can't stand.

As for the Thames Barrier, I think it's been up and down like a whore's drawers for some time now, as sea levels have started to rise.

hattymattie Fri 07-Feb-14 11:53:25

Herbs gringrin at whores drawers.

motherinferior Fri 07-Feb-14 12:38:50

My new Vidavida mini-satchel has arrived. I have positioned it next to my big Scaramanga satchel and taken their picture. I don't get out much grin

Herbs, the Inferiorettes regularly berate me for the state I've left the planet in for them. Bit like me with them about their rooms. Seriously, it worries the crap out of me too.

NUFC69 Fri 07-Feb-14 13:17:10

We have lived here for over 30 years but it has only been in the last 5/6 we've had problems with flooding. A couple of my friends have been flooded twice; one acquaintance has actually had to abandon her home never to go back. Fortunately she was insured. My worst experience was Thunder Thursday from a couple of summers ago, although I have been in a hurricane abroad.

CointreauVersial Fri 07-Feb-14 13:21:03

Snap, Hattymattie. There was a strange dripping noise emanating from the living room just as we were trying to exit the house this morning, and it appears our blasted shower is leaking too. There has been a suspicious patch on the ceiling for a while, but no visible water - until today. angry

We propped a bucket underneath, and the drips slowed down, but I'm a little concerned I'm going to come home to a ceiling-less living room. No idea where the leak is coming from, either - there don't seem to be any unsealed bits, so I'm going to have to do some experiments with buckets and so forth to identify the problem. As if I didn't enough enough to do.

The bridge to DD2's school was just about passable this morning. It's such a tiny wee river, normally. I'm just bored with it all.

Crem - big congrats to your DD! Very impressive. My DN (who is 12) is a beautiful singer, and is collecting silverware; it's a lovely skill to have, particularly for her, as she isn't particularly sporty/brainy, unlike her twin.

motherinferior Fri 07-Feb-14 13:30:34

I am writing about poo.

herbaceous Fri 07-Feb-14 13:32:49

I'm writing about Brentford.

Anyone remember the advert for Brentford Nylons?

bigTillyMint Fri 07-Feb-14 13:50:00

Oh yes, Herbs!

MI hope you have posted your satchels pix on your FB page so I can see them! and envy at the birthday breakfast.

hattymattie Fri 07-Feb-14 14:09:32

CV ours is also over the living room - we already had a cracked ceiling which is why we had it redone. Now it appears to be leaking out the sidesangry.


motherinferior Fri 07-Feb-14 14:19:39

I will upload when I've checked how.

I should probably explain am writing about children and digestive disorders. Or, as we say in the jolly tones of parenting mags 'uncovering the inner workings of your offspring'. Ho yes.

cremolafoam Fri 07-Feb-14 14:21:55

Hope Stropps is ok
Mrs S is strangely absent from roll-call this morning. Peut-être un petit 'angover?

Herbs dd sang oh dicesti bocca bocca bella bloody hard IMHO .

Stropperella Fri 07-Feb-14 14:22:16

Crem, wow and congrats to your dd! How wonderful!

CV, oh no, you really don't need water inside the house as well.

MI, I do not envy you the impending royal visit.

Re: GP - it went much as expected. I told him (locum) how I felt and he gave me a prescription for the same dose I was on before all this started and, because I insisted that I wanted to try and deal with the root cause rather than continue masking it with prescriptions, gave me a leaflet to self-refer for "talking therapy".

The locum told me that I can basically expect to feel horrible for an unspecified length of time because I reduced my dose (as per GP instructions) for 5 days. I guess I just have to wait it out. He wasn't exactly encouraging about the prospects of me finding a "cure" in general. I've been told a few times that I need to accept that I have to live within my limitations. It's just a bummer that that has major economic implications.

I worry for dd because she is so similar in so many respects. She has failed to make it into school today, for some spurious reason.

You have all been immensely kind and supportive and have gone above and beyond the call of duty. Thank you.

At least the sun is shining today and the dog didn't have to do any paddling. smile

Stropperella Fri 07-Feb-14 14:23:55

ps: I am writing about extreme weather events in Austria. grin

motherinferior Fri 07-Feb-14 14:30:16

I have had an email from MrsS: will leave details to her, but suffice it to say there are some situations where matricide should be a duty rather than an offence.

Stropps, I have to say that doesn't really sound good enough (though have been there and know how hard it is to get through to the professionals). Is it worth having a chat with Mind or suchlike, to find a way through the maze?

Blackduck Fri 07-Feb-14 14:50:48

Brentford Nylons - another blast from the past! Nylon sheets and a nightie = blue sparks and static...

cremo - well done to DD.

Stropps - ho hum - that doesn't sound helpful at all......

motherinferior Fri 07-Feb-14 15:03:16

I have finished the poo (so to speak). Merely awaiting a Gut Expert to talk to on Monday.

lalsy Fri 07-Feb-14 15:09:50

Stropps, the self-refer to talking therapies is what we have in this area - I gather it works OK, as you get triaged by people who know the whole landscape, and what particular services are available, rather than who/what your GP happens to know/have kept up to date with (GPs can refer to it too - but the outcome is the same, you talk to someone who know the local provision and they they sort it). Please do consider making the call. There will doubtless be a waiting list once you have done the initial bit, so you won't be bounced into anything you are not sure about. It may be about learning techniques to manage things, rather than a cure, but that can be transforming.

lalsy Fri 07-Feb-14 15:11:18

MI, I can sink lower than that - back in the day, I covered the use of carbon composites in penile implants.

motherinferior Fri 07-Feb-14 15:14:24

We're so S&B on this thread...

bigTillyMint Fri 07-Feb-14 15:22:17

Stropps, great that you've got the meds <now don't come off them!> not so great that there isn't a straight-forward way to get other support. Would CBT be something to look at?

So glad it's past 3grin

CointreauVersial Fri 07-Feb-14 16:40:55

I spent the day writing about health & safety achievements for our website and analysing the company mobile phone bill. Yawn.

Ceiling is still intact, and dripping has stopped, which makes me suspect defective shower seals/grout rather than dodgy pipework. I will get busy with a sealant gun over the weekend; the plastering will have to wait. Can I claim on the insurance, do you think?

I just found a half eaten box of champagne truffles in the back of the cupboard and ate them all. One after another, chomp chomp. blush blush TGIF !

bigTillyMint Fri 07-Feb-14 17:18:25

Champagne truffles, yummmm!

cremolafoam Fri 07-Feb-14 17:21:57

Mnmn champagne truffles.

Just to join in with the general leakage woes, our dishwasher has given up the ghost with a spectacular flash and fused the whole house.angry

motherinferior Fri 07-Feb-14 17:29:28

BASTARD dishwashers. Also showers. The door fell off our shower the other day. DP has replaced it with a curtain which sticks clammily to your bum.

Appear to have sold another feature idea which will help keep wolf from door. Frugal Recycling is, as ever, my motto (ie I've done some of it for another publication already). Freelancing is weird. One minute you're facing yet another rejection, the next an idea you casually cast out has been snaffled.

NUFC69 Fri 07-Feb-14 18:56:04

Well done, Stropps, for going to see the doctor, although I am sorry he didn't offer you more support. I hope you get somewhere with the self-referral.

I am very impressed with those of you who write for a living - although I appreciate it must be very precarious, it must be very rewarding too (if not necessarily financially.)

Off to the Midlands on Sunday for a few days to meet up with my DSis and BIL, and to call on sundry people. We're staying at a place with a swimming pool so I have been out and treated myself to a new costume. TKMax only, I am afraid; but I love it - it does replace one which is several years' old! Swimming is quite an adventure for me, as I find that now I have an artificial knee joint, I have difficulty knowing where my leg is - swimming is a strange experience.

herbaceous Fri 07-Feb-14 19:26:04

FFS. I've recently taken on the chairpersonship of the friends group of the local park. After much email shenanigans, I've organised a committee meeting for tonight. And only three of the eight committee members are going to be there. Fortunately the other two are the treasurer and secretary.

But we won't be able to sort lots of stuff, and will have to arrange another meeting, to which no-one will bother coming.


MrsSchadenfreude Fri 07-Feb-14 19:39:20

I always get searched going into and out of the US. I asked an Americah diplomat friend of mine to check why this was - he informed me that I was On A List and that I should write to Homeland Security to be removed. However, I could not divulge how I knew I was on this list...

Just heard that one of my cousins has been found dead in his flat. So in the space of 10 months, that has been two Aunts, one Uncle, one ex boyfriend and a cousin. We were saying at yesterday's funeral that we needed to have a wedding next, for a bit of cheer.

My mother asked if she could have the sitting room curtains as well as the telly, as she thought the curtains would look nice in her bedroom. The window they come from is actually huge French windows; my mother's bedroom window is tiny. I am sure there are more corkers. I will have a think.

MrsSchadenfreude Fri 07-Feb-14 19:56:32

My mother got quite pissed, which always makes her more aggressive than usual. She told my cousin's husband that he was much too good for her and was wasting his time being with her, when he could be married to someone "really nice." She pulled a face when my (lesbian) cousin showed her photos of her kids and said it shouldn't be allowed, although they looked nice children. On the plus side, she and her 92 year old cousin, who fell out in 1983, decided to let bygones be bygones and had a nice chat.

Stropperella Fri 07-Feb-14 20:49:36

MrsS, I think you need more than just the one wedding to counteract all of that. I am sorry to hear about your cousin.

I feel as though I shouldn't be shock when I hear about your mother's latest utterances but I am definitely shock.

Lalsy, thanks for the background info on the self-referrals thing. That is making me view it in a more positive light. Yes, I will call them on Monday. (I did love the image of your dd going through security on her hands, btw grin )

I managed to whizz out during the dry spell this afternoon and take apart the chicken run, remove the hen house and the dog had a good time looking for the rat that has been tunnelling under there for the last week. Then I dug it out and laid some paving slabs and dh jumped up and down on them and we put the chicken run and house back together. And I shall not be leaving any more snacks hanging in the chicken run overnight. That must be one obese rodent.

Stropperella Fri 07-Feb-14 20:55:10

ps: that dress I ordered yesterday arrived already today and yes, it's viscose, but it's actually really nice. The print is lovely, not at all sofa-ish and it fits very nicely. Falls just on the knee. Only cost me £20. That cheered me up a bit.

MrsSchadenfreude Fri 07-Feb-14 21:15:37

Good grief Stropps, that makes me feel quite exhausted, all that energy! I liked the dresses - viscose is wood pulp, so natural-ish fabric, I think.

The cousin who died was the one who had Pomagne at his wedding.

CointreauVersial Fri 07-Feb-14 21:52:32

Well done, Strops. Very energetic.

sad MrsS about your cousin. I had a little spell last year of family members falling off perches; it is hard when it all happens so close together.

I've just scoffed an entire bar of Green & Black's chocolate. On top of the champagne truffles I ate earlier. What's that illness when you can't stop yourself eating? Oh yes. Greed.

QueenQueenie Fri 07-Feb-14 21:58:11

What's it worth not to grass you up to your fellow lowcarbers CV??

RudyMentary Fri 07-Feb-14 22:31:24

I'm leaving tomorrow - early of we're not flooded
This evening I have consumed copious amounts is wine with DSIL.
It's been one of those days.

It will be ok - meeting at champagne bar in 10 hours. I just need to sleep, pack, negotiate my way out of the drive and travel hmm

RudyMentary Fri 07-Feb-14 22:32:16

..... and remember to pack my camisoles grin

CointreauVersial Fri 07-Feb-14 22:37:03

I'll pay for your silence, QQ. blush In my defence, I've been very good for the last few weeks. It was just "one of those days".

Ruby - have a fab time, you lucky thing.

Stropperella Fri 07-Feb-14 22:39:44

Bon voyage, Rudy grin

QueenQueenie Fri 07-Feb-14 23:15:06

Have a fantastic time Rudy!

cremolafoam Fri 07-Feb-14 23:29:56

Have a happy lovely time in Paris Rudy. ( wonders what camisoles - plural are forwink)grin

The ruddy dishwasher is kaput.

Mrs S I'm very sorry to hear of yet another family bereavement. That's a lot of loss in a short space of time. Look after yourself. And shock about the curtains. She's a rare bird your ma!

lalsy Sat 08-Feb-14 00:06:56

Rudy, have a great time, I love the idea of meeting in a champagne bar.

Stropps, first things first, did you get the rat? And good - it has to be worth a try I think.

Mrs S, that's too much.sad

hattymattie Sat 08-Feb-14 07:50:13

Not a very nice day for you here in Paris at the moment Rudy.

I'm here on MN as had to get up early to drop DD1 at school at 8 am for her mock bac' in maths. Have come back and no sign of DH who is normally an early bird - must have fallen asleep again. Just me and DS on the sofa with our respective computers and Scooby Doo.

Blackduck Sat 08-Feb-14 08:07:14

Rudy have a fab time!

MrsS - gosh that's all a bit grim...

QQ - didn't have you down as a sneak ;-)

We had a quiet pint up the pub and came home. Ds is being subject to the hormonal changes of pre teen girls and finding it a tad wearing.

bigTillyMint Sat 08-Feb-14 09:41:47

Sante, Rudy!

MrsS, good job you've got a sense of humour and take no notice of her.

Cremo, the old one will have to come out of retirement (your DH, I meanwink)

Hattyshock, mocks on a Saturday! Eeeeek!

I went out for a wine and meze with friends last night. There was a tiny old lady sat at the next table who I recognised from a previous visit to the same restaurant who ate a starter, enorrrrrmmmmmous main dish and ice-cream. No idea where she put it all!

Off to meet a mate at our local tea emporium this morningsmile

cremolafoam Sat 08-Feb-14 09:59:54

We are smartening up here chez Cremola as it is ddads 85th birthday and mother has arranged for a family portrait photo to be taken. confused
I can't begin to describe how utterly cringeworthy this is for us lot. We are a collective of photograph fraidy cats.

Watching a bit of Vladimir's Extravaganza this morning . The snow boarding was spectacular!

bigTillyMint Sat 08-Feb-14 10:07:17

DS had been sprawled on the sofa watching, Cremo. Infact I came in last night to the DC snuggling on the sofa watching the opening ceremonysmile

And the photo sounds a lovely idea. Chin upwink

motherinferior Sat 08-Feb-14 15:47:56

I have trekked round New Look with DD1. Then met our fellow inmates of the Inferiority Complex for lunch and introduced girls to the geek heaven that is Forbidden Planet. They proclaimed loudly how much they loved it while their father quietly added to his vast collection of obscure fantasy novelsgrin

hattymattie Sat 08-Feb-14 19:18:02

I used to like Forbidden Planet although I didn't read much more fantasy than LOTR, I had a friend who was addicted and we used to have fun browsing in there. Medal of courage for going in New Look though - I can't stand it and I will not go in H&M on a Saturday afternoon.

As the weather is really horrible, we have had a lazy afternoon watching Hunger Games2, enjoyable but quite similar to the first.

NUFC69 Sat 08-Feb-14 19:26:22

DH has just cooked Cajun chicken and couscous while I did the ironing - delicious. We had a walk this afternoon before the rain arrived.

Fairly early start tomorrow as we are calling to see my DCousin - he is in a special home as he had a stroke 14 months ago (he's in his 50s and no partner now). He's in a wheelchair with little speech - so sad.

herbaceous Sat 08-Feb-14 20:08:13

Egads. Spent today at a social media course, specially designed for those unfortunate types, such as myself, who've been landed with their choir's publicity.

Cue man with brain the size of a planet explaining the finer points of Twitter, Facebook, Google+ and Pinterest to an audience in various degrees of bemusement. It was, infact, most informative and useful, but it's been so long since I learned anything new that I feel thoroughly exhausted. And this after a park friends group committee meeting until 11 last night.

Luckily, DP is busying himself in the kitchen with a stir-fry, wine is open and the weekend Grauniad awaits my delectation. Though natch I've already read Blind Date.

bigTillyMint Sat 08-Feb-14 20:36:00

Had a lovely evening with DD's gym squad and mums/dad and her old coach in Pizza Express. And I still have the above-mentioned newspaper to readsmile

We are not sci-fi/fantasy fans, so I have no idea what Forbidden Planet is! But I am well acquainted with New Look and H&M. I find the online branches much more relaxing thoughwink

CointreauVersial Sat 08-Feb-14 21:30:12

Blimey, Herbs, just how many committees are you on?

A lazy day here; I was going to go to Kingston but after seeing the weather forecast I've postponed it until tomorrow. I have a stack of John Lewis vouchers burning a proverbial hole in my purse. DS is coming too, as he has decided his wardrobe is lacking "party clothes".

Interesting dinner this evening. DD1 and I defrosted and butchered a Lidl lobster which had been lurking in the freezer for the last couple of months. Very tasty, but not exactly a feast between the two of us. So I'm now scoffing a slab of cheese and drinking Rioja. Balanced, no?

bigTillyMint Sat 08-Feb-14 21:56:13

Oooh CV, I am looking forward to seeing what teen boy "party clothes" are!

MrsSchadenfreude Sat 08-Feb-14 22:42:39

I bought this today and told DH it was his birthday present to me. Luckily for him it was half price. I thought I needed cheering up after this week, and the sum total of my birthday presents being a tea towel and a box of notelets.

MrsSchadenfreude Sat 08-Feb-14 22:43:29

(Mine is purple.) smile

cremolafoam Sat 08-Feb-14 23:04:25

Lovely lovely bagenvy

herbaceous Sat 08-Feb-14 23:57:21

Be sure to extract the moolah this time, Mrs S.

CV - I am on a mere two committees, but their commitments abutted over the past two days to create an unfortunate load.

CointreauVersial Sun 09-Feb-14 01:36:33

Oh I do like that bag, MrsS. Where did you find it half price?

I prefer a bag with a cross-body strap and am contemplating this one in taupe. Or possibly this (but what colour?).

NUFC69 Sun 09-Feb-14 06:23:35

I love both bags, but particularly the Boden one (especially in Fountain). I dare not even suggest one for my birthday next month as I bought a Dune red one in November and DH gave me a beautiful tan one for Christmas.

Just having tea in bed before starting the long trek south.

Blackduck Sun 09-Feb-14 07:45:48

Loverly bag MrsS and a vast improvement on flowery note lets!

Been howling a gale here all night - seriously thought the windows wouldn't hold at one point.

I am trying to knock out a conference abstract but think my brain may have gone missing....

bigTillyMint Sun 09-Feb-14 07:46:06

I love both too, CV (infact I was looking at that Boden one in fountain and apricot, but I am trying to reign myself in!). And yours MrsS!

Hope your visit goes OK, NU.

hattymattie Sun 09-Feb-14 09:04:54

envy envy For bag Mrs S - I love purple - my old Lancel has finally given up but to replace it was 300 Euros even in the salessad. I was looking at the Boden one too but they have been so disappointing with their clothes recently I'm starting to go off them. I love that hobo bag CV.

herbaceous Sun 09-Feb-14 09:48:26

I've been very fond of my Peony and Moore Mariella, though mine is in aubergine, which they don't seem to do any more. Roomy, but collapses down when not full, making it v versatile...

MrsSchadenfreude Sun 09-Feb-14 09:58:11

CV - I got it in the Coach shop on Regent Street. Bizarrely they are still full price on the website. I love the JL taupe bag but would want a zip top. Less keen on the Boden bag in that colour but liked the nude one. I am going to get rid of a couple of bags - I have a Romanian "designer" one in lime green and orange and a huuuuge turquoise squashy leather one that I bought in New York for about $30 which is excellent as your "hand bag" when flying as it holds everything but the kitchen sink. Oh now I am having second thoughts about the NY bag...!

motherinferior Sun 09-Feb-14 10:46:08

I am immune to bags...except satchels. My new mini one is adorable.

Friend/colleague has now had row with Difficult Client (over payment) and I've been asked not to use him againhmm

herbaceous Sun 09-Feb-14 11:52:09

Merciful lord. Just done third of the second C25K week, and am barely alive. The combination of mild incline and strong headwind was almost fatal. Does anyone else find that one session your legs are OK but lungs almost come out of your mouth, and the next session it's the other way around?

QueenQueenie Sun 09-Feb-14 12:04:47

Oh yes Herbs. I don't suppose you'll believe me but honestly I found the weirdest thing was that it did actually get easier for me. In the early weeks I honestly thought I was going to die - I couldn't breathe and / or my legs felt like lead weights / string. But, it did get easier! I think by the end of week 3 or so breathing was no longer a problem, I got out of breath but in a manageable way. I don't know how or why but it does just work if you stick with the programme. I can now run for 30 minutes at a stretch - it's hard work but ok.
What I have found is that for me i makes a surprising difference what time of day I do it. I find running early evening, before dinner, is 1000 times easier than early morning... so that's what I do. You can do it Herbs and will get a real feeling of satisfaction from it.

herbaceous Sun 09-Feb-14 12:38:03

Thanks for the cheering!

I'm already feeling very 'go grrrr', as I always thought I was congenitally incapable of running. And am already feeling fitter, and tighter, and perhaps a little bit slimmer.

And it is already getting (a little bit) easier. I think the afternoons are better for me, too, but it's easier to fit it in in the mornings, so that's tended to be the pattern.

motherinferior Sun 09-Feb-14 13:04:21

I didn't puff as much as I feared - I think because I was a regular swimmer - but the crackly knees are quite something grinI have looked them up and if they don't hurt it's apparently fine but they are quite dramatic.

Stropperella Sun 09-Feb-14 22:58:09

grin at MI's dramatic knees. Run, crepeys, run. grin

On reading the talking therapy leaflet, I found out that I could self-refer via the net. So I did that yesterday.

Currently still slogging through a text for delivery tomorrow, but feeling not so bad despite a stinking cold.

And no, we didn't catch the rat. Unfortunately. The dog was v. disappointed.

lalsy Sun 09-Feb-14 23:48:32

What is it with knees? Surely they should not be able to creak duets out together (mine are actually more tuneful than my voice)?

Stropps, I am disappointed too about the rat (I really hate rats and like to hear of them coming to a nasty end blush) - and well done on getting the referral kicked off, I hope it works out.

Have a good week, crepeys. I have had an unusually sociable weekend and thoroughly enjoyed myself.

CointreauVersial Mon 10-Feb-14 00:03:55

MI - I too was "immune" to bags for years. Only when I finally stopped lugging around a nappy bag did a red mist descend, and I started buying handbags.

I went to Kingston today and bought the JL hobo bag, but I shall leave it for a few days before I decide to keep it (I might stroke it and sniff it a few times).

MrsSchadenfreude Mon 10-Feb-14 00:07:03

I have been fighting a low level fever for a few days now, and it appears to have become a fully blown cold now. Going to suck on a Lemsip and go to bed.

Blackduck Mon 10-Feb-14 08:40:15

I am like MI - immune to bags.... I am currently carrying a health back rucksack here - not the most attractive thing, but surprisingly roomy and easy to carry (I like my arms free).

I should run, I know I should run, but I don't want to......

Crepeys - Paris at Easter looks like a goer so I need to know: good, cheap hotels (in a reasonable location); things to do with a 10 year old. (haven't been in years myself.....

bigTillyMint Mon 10-Feb-14 09:01:59

I am not immune to bags, and I am itching to get another.... But not a healthy backpack, BD grin

Paris at Easter will be fab! Mine said the best thing they liked was the Eiffel Tower (similar ages) - top tip is book in advance to skip the queues a bit (we didn't but got there very early!) They also loved Disneyland Paris (did the full day, gulp - MrsS is the expert though!) Bateaux Mouches are good too!

herbaceous Mon 10-Feb-14 09:57:37

DP and I are having one of our discussion about whether we should move out of London. Is this really it? Do we need to live in urban grit, or shall we embrace leafier climes and relax a bit? I wouldn't want a village or rural, but a proper small town with its own life, with lovely countryside or beach. Not too Tory-fied. Faintly arty. Choir compulsory. Additional complications include aged parents in Suffolk, sister in Surrey, inlaws in Berkshire.

Current contenders are Broadstairs, Bury St Edmunds, Framlingham, Saffron Walden....

It will probably never happen, but as time marches on, if we did do it, now is probably the time as we'd be able to 'start again', making friends and building networks, and uprooting DS from school wouldn't be too disruptive at this stage.

Stropperella Mon 10-Feb-14 10:02:01

Mine loved Parc Asterix - but then ds was/is a huge Asterix fan. And I am a Disney-refuser. grin They also liked the Montparnasse Tower, from which you get amazing views of Paris, and it has one of the fastest lifts in the world (apparently).

Stropperella Mon 10-Feb-14 10:03:07

But I thought you loved all that urban-tastic stuff, Herbs!

Blackduck Mon 10-Feb-14 10:20:14

I am not doing Disneyland.... we did this several years ago (paid for by the in-laws) I am afraid it is my idea of hell.....

Herbs - yes, good to move before secondary school (so you have a few years yet ;) )

herbaceous Mon 10-Feb-14 10:22:13

Sometimes I do, stropps, but then I wonder if I'm just pretending and denying my aga-saga desires. Positives of living here: lots of friends, diverse, lots for us all to do... Negatives: small-ish house and garden, bit bleak at times, feeling of 'is this really as good as I can do?', everything's hard work.

Crikey. I don't know.

Stropperella Mon 10-Feb-14 10:38:40

Um, what about your dp's lack of a driving licence? Won't that be more of an obvious drawback if you move outside the metropolis?

I lived in London for 5 years and when I was done with city life, I really knew. I worked for a year again there later and hated it with a passion. I have absolutely no regrets about leaving - aside from being too far from a decent-sized airport. But you wouldn't have that issue if you're staying in the SE. Then again, I don't care much for the theatre etc and am chronically underwhelmed by much of what other people love about city life, so being in the country is a no-brainer for me. If I didn't have dcs, I would be somewhere out in the country proper.

motherinferior Mon 10-Feb-14 10:53:43

I like urban grot.

Blackduck Mon 10-Feb-14 11:02:17

Urban grot is starting to have its attractions......

I don't know - recently gone from big city to country(ish). It has certainly been better for ds and dp - me? I don't know. But that I suspect is more to do with my general lack of direction in life.

Re driving (whispers it) I don't and we cope - but good transport links are a must.

bigTillyMint Mon 10-Feb-14 11:04:23

Oh yes, we loved parc Asterix too! No need to do Disney again if you've already done it!

Stropps, that is a good point, re the driving!

I like urban grot too, MI! Though I do drool at the mansions we could buy if we moved to nowhere land!

herbaceous Mon 10-Feb-14 11:08:50

Re driving, him passing his driving test would be a condition of moving. It was him, in fact, who brought up the notion last night.

I just wonder if I'm doing the best thing by DS. His school seems fine, but all he sees from one day's end to the next is tarmac. The playground's tarmac, there's no greenery, the main road is so busy, etc etc. Everything's OK, but not GREAT. Is OK enough? Blah blah blather...

We could move slightly out to Redbridge, where the schools are good but we'd still be near friends, but then would living in suburbia be the worst of all worlds?

Blackduck Mon 10-Feb-14 11:19:34

Have to say Herbs ds loves it - but we go to London frequently (in-laws) and he has access to a range of experiences so I guess that is the key.....

herbaceous Mon 10-Feb-14 11:22:49

Oh yes - I think we'd be back in London lots. It's not as if we actually ever go to the theatre, the British Museum, pop-up espresso martini bars, etc, but I kind of like knowing I could if I wanted to!

motherinferior Mon 10-Feb-14 11:30:35

College record has arrived

<slits throat>

Herbs, he also does see faces that are not uniformly white. And it is often easier to have parents who are not a matching male/female pair. Etc etc.

Stropperella Mon 10-Feb-14 11:31:32

Dh is a natural urbanite in the same way that I am absolutely not. He thinks the countryside is just boring green and brown stuff you are forced to look at through the car windows when you are on the way to somewhere interesting.

Stropperella Mon 10-Feb-14 11:38:57

Mi - college record???

motherinferior Mon 10-Feb-14 11:41:48

The paperback volume issued by Jesus College Oxford to make former students feel crap by comparing themselves with everyone else.

herbaceous Mon 10-Feb-14 11:53:18

Oh I don't want to live in the actual country. Somewhere with a market I can walk to, independent shops, thriving local shizzle going on - basically the Guardianista's dream.

Stropperella Mon 10-Feb-14 12:16:07

Ah, MI, I see. Mmm. Not recommended reading for when one is feeling anything less than extremely robust, clearly.

Hmm, Herbs, now you have me wondering if I am living the Guardianista's dream? I can't be arsed to walk to the market, though. grin

hattymattie Mon 10-Feb-14 12:24:31

Luckily Newcastle university doesn't bother with such volumesgrin

CointreauVersial Mon 10-Feb-14 13:02:04

MI - I love the College Record, although I make damned sure I'm never mentioned.

"Hamish Fotherington, having headed an important policy unit at the UN for the last three years, has recently been appointed CEO of MegaCorp, and is moving to NY with his partner, world-renowned lawyer and concert-violinist Cynthia Snottington. Hamish is looking forward to spending more time on his yacht....blah blah blah...."

"CointreauVersial, after six years of wiping bottoms and attending high profile toddler groups, is now heading up the Tea-Making Department" at a small engineering company in the Home Counties."


bigTillyMint Mon 10-Feb-14 13:03:47

MI, you don't get college records when you went to a polywink

And now I see hatty's post, maybe it's just an Oxbridge thing?

Herbs, my BFF moved to naice suburbia with lots of green around. It took her 10 years to settle in!

bigTillyMint Mon 10-Feb-14 13:04:37


Blackduck Mon 10-Feb-14 13:33:41

MI - that sounds unutterably grim... (glad none of my alma maters do such things) But CV smile

MI - depends where you go! Here the male/female pair is not a given (ds's gf is brought up by her dad alone), and there is a fair spattering of non-white faces.....

hattymattie Mon 10-Feb-14 13:47:23

CV grin grin that's cheered up my afternoon.

Stropperella Mon 10-Feb-14 14:13:09

Gosh, CV, I can't believe you forgot to mention the Fotherington-Snottington octuplets who have already all got places at the alma mater. grin

The posh boarding school I went to for the 6th form does this. If I'm feeling particularly low, I just put the thing straight into the recycling. It's for the best. smile Bath Uni has gone all American and also keeps sending out glossy "alumni" update brochures.

cremolafoam Mon 10-Feb-14 14:16:56

Omg I do hope I never see a college record for myself ever. Prob not the thing at St Martins although I can imagine it on the fashionista courses.
Stella McCartney and her gaaang.

Dh has been offered a NEW JOB! A better job , a good company and it means he can finally escape his tormentors at current job. I am speechless and delighted and so proud of him after the yearsad he's had.

motherinferior Mon 10-Feb-14 14:19:31



Stropperella Mon 10-Feb-14 14:23:15

Fab news, crem!!

cremolafoam Mon 10-Feb-14 14:24:20

Now just need to get my own arse in gear...shock

motherinferior Mon 10-Feb-14 14:37:10

Just had profitably haul in local charity shop (had to return an overdue library book I'd forgotten about) including short red Boden velvety skirt.

Stropperella Mon 10-Feb-14 14:40:04

MI, FB told me the other day that you are friends with a high-flyer that I was at posh school with. Unless there is someone else with exactly the same name and who looks exactly the same (always possible).

motherinferior Mon 10-Feb-14 14:40:38

Which is the sort of thing you don't see in the College Record.

lalsy Mon 10-Feb-14 14:41:31

CV, like it smile

And great news, Crem

My college record-y thing is strangely dull and unintimidating by the sound of it (Cambridge college), full of very worthy people doing things no-one else understands and having large families. But it is so boring (production brief: present as many facts involving proper nouns as possible in 9 pt text with no pictures) that I never get far through it.

motherinferior Mon 10-Feb-14 14:50:45

I am however delighted to see that the interview with the Principal is headed 'The significance of great tits' (subhead is about birds). Wonder how they got that one through?

bigTillyMint Mon 10-Feb-14 14:51:59

Superb news, Cremowineflowerscake

So it is just an Oxbridge thing?

bigTillyMint Mon 10-Feb-14 14:52:20


motherinferior Mon 10-Feb-14 14:53:23

Stropps, which initials?

Stropperella Mon 10-Feb-14 14:53:44


motherinferior Mon 10-Feb-14 15:00:59

Ah, I met her through MN and she once looked in on this thread - and I think overlapped with CV at Oxford too! Is v lovely woman. Spend Sat night getting pissed eating pizza with her.

Stropperella Mon 10-Feb-14 15:07:28

She was in the year below me but joined my A level German lit class as she was doing her A level a year early (bi-lingual, as far as I can remember). If she remembers me at all, it will be as the fat, miserable weird girl. grin

Stropperella Mon 10-Feb-14 15:08:21

(Although I probably wasn't even that memorable)

motherinferior Mon 10-Feb-14 15:10:52

Yep, bilingual, scarily clever, and at boarding school to escape her own family Stuff grin

Blackduck Mon 10-Feb-14 15:11:10

Cremo!! Congrats smile

Stropperella Mon 10-Feb-14 15:14:00

There were a couple of other scarily clever people in that class. I wasn't one of them. grin

hattymattie Mon 10-Feb-14 15:20:22

Crem - Fab news for your DH - not only new job but escaping horrible people. It must be champers chez vous this evening.

Had a very traumatic start to the day as car battery dead, so neighbour had to lend me her 4 x 4 for the school runhmm. Then had to have break down guy start my engine so I could drive to the garage for a new battery at 200 Euros. Still at least it happened here not on holiday next week.

Stropps v curious about fab woman now. I must admit I have no clue what anybody from school is doing.

hattymattie Mon 10-Feb-14 15:28:20

Herbs - forgot to add - your DS can do something I can't - a powerpoint presentationsmile I'm impressed.

RudyMentary Mon 10-Feb-14 15:38:24

That's fantastic news Crem! I'm so happy for you and DH.
What a fantastic start to the year wine

Nearly home - fab weekend. Knackered grin

Herbs. I grew up in one of the places you mentioned!

cremolafoam Mon 10-Feb-14 19:05:47

Thanks all!

cremolafoam Mon 10-Feb-14 19:05:47

Thanks all!

beachyhead Mon 10-Feb-14 20:09:46

Well done Mr Crem grin

MrsSchadenfreude Mon 10-Feb-14 20:49:54

Three cheers for Mr Crem! grin

CointreauVersial Mon 10-Feb-14 22:00:05

Brilliant news, Crem, what a weight off your mind.

QueenQueenie Mon 10-Feb-14 22:02:50

Yes, Fantastic News Crem!

bigTillyMint Tue 11-Feb-14 07:00:44

Cremo, hope you both have hangovers this morningwink

Rudy, glad you had a good weekend.

Went to see A Taste of Honey - first bit of culcha this year! It's like walking into another world in the National - there is definitely a certain demographic there!

herbaceous Tue 11-Feb-14 10:05:51

I'm ashamed to admit I can't remember the full story of Cremo's DH and his work trials. It's my age, you know.

motherinferior Tue 11-Feb-14 11:01:11

I would like it on record I Ladyjogged again today after doing so yesterday as well.


Blackduck Tue 11-Feb-14 11:17:51

MI smile

Snow, hail, rain here..... It's a bit grim

CointreauVersial Tue 11-Feb-14 12:36:57

Me too, MI. I was very fortunate to complete my ladyjog in a brief rain-free window at sparrow-fart this morning.

herbaceous Tue 11-Feb-14 12:40:13

Oh God. I'm going to have to ladyjog this afternoon, as tomorrow it's wall-to-wall torrential downpour. Again.

bigTillyMint Tue 11-Feb-14 13:07:28

The gym is much drier wink

motherinferior Tue 11-Feb-14 13:46:23

I love the way DD1's expression Ladyjog has caught on grin

Talking of DD1, what's wrong with the word gig? She went to a Taylor Swift gig with her friends last night (they had spare ticket, I coughed up as part of her birthday present). She appears to be mortified when I use the word gig. Why? Why??

MrsSchadenfreude Tue 11-Feb-14 20:02:50

Did you ask her if the gig was well peng, MI? grin

I have a cold and temperature still, and am fed up with not feeling well.

Guy's Hospital have sent me a reminder for a hospital appointment I didn't know I had. It bossily says that all of the information is in the original letter. Bit nervous - it's to assess my risk of malignant melanoma, which is wiping out my family.

motherinferior Tue 11-Feb-14 20:04:55

When is it?

motherinferior Tue 11-Feb-14 20:05:55

And just ring them and say house move, blame cat, say you've had one of your funny turns, or suchlike.

MrsSchadenfreude Tue 11-Feb-14 20:27:21

Next week. What - in a "the cat ate my homework" sort of way? grin

DH has a habit of putting unopened mail away - will have to have a look and see if he has hidden this too (have just found last month's GH and a letter from the Inland Revenue giving me my tax code.

Am also having very odd period - flooding, lots of watery blood and no clots (TMI, sorry). No period pain either. Think it is a week or so late as well.

bigTillyMint Tue 11-Feb-14 20:46:47

Yes, MrsS (been there, done thatblush) and get it sorted!

Blackduck Wed 12-Feb-14 08:52:45

Dp does this - I end up opening piles of unopened mail (usually his) and threatening him with death.......

MrsS - phone as MI says and use all the excuses under the sun, although it could be there was no original letter - my GP (old one) sent me a letter re a blood test, I phoned and asked what it was about and was told it was the follow up from the previous bloody test where I had been prescribed statins. I pointed out I had not heard back from the previous blood test (which was actually checking for gout - yes seriously) and had not had an appointment or a prescription. She actually stated I had - I think I would remember! I declined to take the statins.....

herbaceous Wed 12-Feb-14 09:11:07

I did my ladyjog in the evening. In the cold. Rather than staying in and cracking open the wine. And, what's more, the last two bursts of 'running' were surprisingly easy. Though that may have been due to the slight downward incline.

Laura told me to help my body recover by having some water, and maybe a piece of fruit. So I had half a bottle of red, and a Thai takeaway.

motherinferior Wed 12-Feb-14 09:20:01

Laura is an actress, and not a very good one, IMO. And I bet she lives on fags and takeaways.

I am writing a short story that sort of Goes With my book. Is quite upsetting but productive.

herbaceous Wed 12-Feb-14 09:47:44

Based upon my pithy Facebook posts, and occasional real-life bon mots, various people have told me I should write a book. Or blog. But I can seem to quite gather the confidence. Or work out what to write about. And in what form. So I continue to do nothing, and wonder why I have yet to be 'discovered'.

Blackduck Wed 12-Feb-14 09:58:08

Am loving the substitution of wine and thai takeaway for water and fruit......

Here it was choir, in a bl**dy freezing church......... and singing Monday Monday which I HATE almost as much as California Dreamin'

lalsy Wed 12-Feb-14 10:00:19

I find to write something you don't have to - a blog or whatever, something for fun or interest or practice - it is easiest to go somewhere else and stare at a blank page and make yourself write something down. There are always socks to be sorted at home.

herbaceous Wed 12-Feb-14 10:02:49

Trouble is, I find the harder I try at being amusing, the less amusing I am. It kind of has to come to me from an angle - if I look at it full on, it disappears. Anyone know what I mean?

Stropperella Wed 12-Feb-14 10:07:46

Ah BD, it was being forced to sing California Dreamin' that caused me to give up going to the first choir I joined. Well, that and "the rose".

I used to write a lot. But about 15 years ago, I decided it was best that I didn't and I had an enormous bonfire and have never written anything "creative" since. I am just stuck twizzling around with other people's ideas these days.

Stropperella Wed 12-Feb-14 10:08:24

(rogue comma after "ago". Sorry)

lalsy Wed 12-Feb-14 10:12:02

Absolutely, Herbs!

I think what some people do to find their voice (particularly hard if you have been paid to write or edit I think as you are so used to tuning into others) is set up an anonymous blog - it doesn't matter if people find and read it at first, it is the process that matters, and the discipline. (NB I have not done this - but I thought it sounded like good advice)

Stropperella Wed 12-Feb-14 10:16:35

Herbs, yes, I know exactly what you mean. People used to tell me that I should write for that reason. This turned my writing into something that was about as amusing as sitting on broken glass.

herbaceous Wed 12-Feb-14 10:16:53

Maybe I should have a Word document just open at all times, and when I feel a bon mot coming on, bung it in there. Anything half-way decent could then be used for blog/book etc for making of fortune.

motherinferior Wed 12-Feb-14 10:35:42

The voice finding is particularly hard, I think.

Not that any expletive deleted agent actually appears to want my book, of course.

lalsy Wed 12-Feb-14 11:06:59

I think so too, MI. KBO with the book.

Almost as hard as understanding what the devil curling is all about. It seems to be elite floor scrubbing crossed with boules - is that right?

Blackduck Wed 12-Feb-14 11:08:36

I second (third?) the anonymous blog.....
Sort of 30 day challenge thingy. You set the goal, you do it, but you don't worry too much about the outcome......

Blackduck Wed 12-Feb-14 11:09:44

Lalsy smile re curling. I lay in the dentists chair and watched 'luge' - now what the devil is that about and why would you want to?!

motherinferior Wed 12-Feb-14 11:19:20

Am setting self daily challenge with the short story. If it doesn't kill me first. It's one of the ones I outlined on FB that only my sister liked grin

lalsy Wed 12-Feb-14 11:21:25

Exactly, BD, about the 30 day challenge.

Is luging the thing where they sit in a little cart and whoosh down a slide, in extreme Chessington fashion?

herbaceous Wed 12-Feb-14 11:23:08

The winter olympics have somehow passed me by. I might gorge on them tonight, as DP is away.

Talking of gorging, if you have a Lindor, but some grapes too, the grapes cancel out the Lindor, right?

motherinferior Wed 12-Feb-14 11:27:22

Chocolate is actually good for you, Herbs: there is evidence that a (regrettably small but let's pass quickly over that) small amount a day lowers your risk of heart disease. Also the countries with the highest chocolate consumption have the highest number of Nobel Prize winners.

herbaceous Wed 12-Feb-14 11:47:15

I'd read that, too. It's the cheap fat and sugar that it's bulked out with that's the problem.

So, does it figure that if I neck a bar of G&B's 80% loveliness every day, I'll live to 150 and win a number of Nobel Prizes?

motherinferior Wed 12-Feb-14 11:51:39


Wine is fruit too, obvs. Red wine particularly marvellous for you.

Stropperella Wed 12-Feb-14 12:22:46

Blimey, those talking therapy bods are very quick off the mark. I had a phone call this morning offering me an assessment appmt tomorrow morning. Am now feeling infinitely more sensible that I was a week ago (thanks of course to the meds), but as I now know all that doomy guff is just lurking below the surface ready to burst out, I shall go and see what CBT or similar can do.

herbaceous Wed 12-Feb-14 12:26:47

Yes! Go Stropps! Seize that day. Take the nettle by the horns, and all that.

bigTillyMint Wed 12-Feb-14 12:28:24

grin@ wine is fruit!

Luge is terrrrriiiffffyyyiiiiinnnngggg! Mind you, I find normal downhill skiing pretty terrifying, much to my family's dismay - they will all be bombing down the black runs next week whilst I tootle down gentle blue runs from cafe to cafe!

motherinferior Wed 12-Feb-14 12:32:11

And take printouts. Do printouts now, in fact, and place in your bag for convenient removal during the meeting.

I've just realised I'll have to do a fair amount of work over Easter. Perversely reassuring as cannot yield to urge to do bog-all and then look at bank balance.

lalsy Wed 12-Feb-14 12:44:31

Excellent, Stropps. Even if there is a wait for the next bit, at least you can take the meds, and stay OK, knowing that there may be an alternative in the future?

I've never skied. What is not downhill skiing? Is it less downhill or is it uphill or on the flat? Did anyone hear the interview this am on R4 about why women might be able to compete on equal terms with men in some ski jumpy thing - because they fly better smile

motherinferior Wed 12-Feb-14 12:49:25

Apparently we are less dense.

Stropperella Wed 12-Feb-14 12:51:35

I have already got printouts. And they are now in my bag. smile

I am envy of anyone leaving the country in the next few days. The weather. Yes, I know, it's not exactly news, but really ... it is just sooo extraordinarily grim. Everywhere is so waterlogged. I'm just mighty glad that the dog and I went out early this morning. It was dry and it is now very much not.

We have ds's very delayed b-day party this w/e. Trip with some friends to the cinema to see the Lego movie and then pizza etc at home followed by 3 friends staying for a "sleep"-over. I have slight probs with the logistics of getting everyone to the cinema and back, as the weather will be filthy, natch, and we can't get everyone in the car at once. There will have to be some complicated relay system. Frustrating, because it's really not that far and if the weather were "normal", we could perfectly well walk. As work has now gone quiet again, I must busy myself finding out if our double inflatable mattresses still actually inflate and stay that way...

I have had some raised eyebrows from other parents because I had the temerity to make ds wait several weeks for his b-day treat (nearly 4 weeks, in fact). I mean, he had a cake and presents on the day, he wasn't exactly deprived, but apparently I am a mucho horrible old bag. He didn't complain (much) and I refuse to believe that this is actually unkind, I'm afraid. Meh.

Stropperella Wed 12-Feb-14 12:57:30

Lalsy, x-country skiing. Which is done on much skinnier little skis and involves fast slippy trudging on tracks on the flat/up hills and then wobbly swooshes down little hills. It's the only sort of skiing I like, as I find downhill wayyy too scary.

When I lived in Germany near the Black Forest, I used to get the train to a station in the Forest. There were special carriages which were just guards' vans and you strapped your skis on in the train and then the guard opened the doors and you just jumped out and swooshed away into the forest. There was no platform. I was always completely rubbish at skiing and was frequently nearly mown down by redoutable German grannies, who would whizz up behind you and shout "Achtung!" and expect you to jump into the nearest snowdrift to enable them to get past.

Stropperella Wed 12-Feb-14 12:58:37

Ah yes, and I always fell over on the jumping out of the carriage bit and I learnt to make sure I jump out last, as otherwise lots of cross Germans used to land on top of me.

Stropperella Wed 12-Feb-14 12:58:57

Gah, my typing is all over the shop today.

beachyhead Wed 12-Feb-14 13:13:12

Very good news about the quick referral, Stropps. Strike while the iron is hot (or just cooling down). The print outs are great as they can give you a real timeline to give whoever you see.

My ds always delays his party for a couple of months to wait for better weather so he can do something outside. Also means that he gets two celebrations - quiet family meal out and then party with mates. He's sussed that he can invite more people if we do something outdoors...

Just like to mention I was up at 3.45am this morning to drop dd1 to get her plane for her school trip. Fantastic thunderstorm all the way up the motorway. My dog walk was a zombie mud sludge, so I'm currently contemplating a nap!

beachyhead Wed 12-Feb-14 13:14:46

Loving the image of carriage launching and being squished by irate German skiers!

QueenQueenie Wed 12-Feb-14 13:16:18

You are not a cruel mother Stropps. Rather you are teaching him the importance of delayed gratification. ..

lalsy Wed 12-Feb-14 13:19:16

Stropps, that sounds completely terrifying. (I don't mind trudging, but fast and slippy - oh no!)

herbaceous Wed 12-Feb-14 13:20:30

Tempest has now reached the capital, though I'd imagine the damage will be limited to some ruined brollies and damp Metros.

Have DS's 'parents evening' today. Well, a 10-minute chat at 3.45. It's only a seven-minute walk, but the deluge will be at its height, so I'll take the car. But it's resident's parking only, apart from a few 30-minute slots, and have to get DS at 3.15, so I forsee a while of warden-dodging, while feeding DS a sustaining snack in a steamy car.

He's now decided he 'hates' playing with the boys (his previous favourite activity, he claimed) as they are 'too rough'. Glad he feels able to opt out of stuff if he doesn't like it.

herbaceous Wed 12-Feb-14 13:21:24

Oh, and much roffling over Stropps' description of her crossGerman country skiing. Sounds grim, frankly.

bigTillyMint Wed 12-Feb-14 13:33:46

Stropps, excellent news! They have been amazingly fast - make the most of it tomorrow!

Lalsy, the other kind is cross-country skiing which seems to involve sliding along the flat and hardly ever going down. And my French friend does some sort of extreme cross-country where they attach these special skins to their ski's to grip the snow as they go uphill (and I mean really uphill!)
Stropp's cross-country train experiences sound, well, very German. And scary.

The wind and rain is sooooo depressing. I am praying hard for at least a little bit of sun in the Alps.

herbaceous Wed 12-Feb-14 13:44:19

I'm sitting in my study, all windows shut and heater on, with a scarf OVER MY HEAD and can still feel a draught on my face. Curse Victorian houses.

bigTillyMint Wed 12-Feb-14 13:52:52

Herbsgrin That is a great picture!

motherinferior Wed 12-Feb-14 14:04:20

WIBU not to pick up DD2 from school? In my defence I do have an urgent editing job coming in, nothing to do with the weather, honest...

hattymattie Wed 12-Feb-14 14:49:11

Stropp's grin at German grannies. I have to go skiing in two weeks time. DH is born and bred in the Alps and has been skiing since he was 4. My DC's all now ski much faster than me and now all the family waits at the bottom for me to catch up.

I loved the Olympic downhill skiing on the bumps with somersault in the air thrown in. Speaking as one who normally gets stuck on top of the bump, I can appreciate what brilliant athletes these people are.

herbaceous Wed 12-Feb-14 14:56:06

I haven't been skiing for donkeys years. Since I was much fitter, and about two stone lighter. Only really 'clicked' on the third holiday, when I really started to love it. But, like BTM, prefer gliding down blue runs than struggling down reds. I don't suppose DP could ever be persuaded to go, but DS might rather enjoy it...

Perhaps we should have a crepey skiing holiday! With copious quantities of wine and cake from, ooh, about lunchtime onwards.

bigTillyMint Wed 12-Feb-14 15:01:44

Surely she could walk home, MI?!

Hatty, whereabouts are you going? That's what happens when we ski together too. I think there are very few crepey women who like to ski fast!

I only ski mornings as I couldn't possibly leave my non-skiing friend (her family come too) alone all daywink And FWIW, I think the walking we do in the afternoons is far more energetic than the skiing!

bigTillyMint Wed 12-Feb-14 15:53:34

Just got home to find a card on the mat. From someone I used to work with/know about 20 years ago. Am a bit surprised.

How would she know my married name and address?

Must be that a mutual friend passed them on?

Very, very strangeconfused

motherinferior Wed 12-Feb-14 16:06:38

Oh, an on-foot pickup, BTM! I walk down to the school gate. As indeed I did as copy hadn't quite arrived yet.

We did walk. She was in a filthy mood but I hadn't been out of the house otherwise, as was too damn knackered to do third Ladyjog in as many days and the forecast had been awful for this morning.

hattymattie Wed 12-Feb-14 16:26:19

BTM - Valmoral - it's nearest the inlaws. Is it a good or bad thing, renewed contact with the friend?

bigTillyMint Wed 12-Feb-14 16:38:01

Well, TBH, she wasn't really a friend. More an occasional colleague. We were never close and I had to wrack my brains a bit to remember the nameconfused

bigTillyMint Wed 12-Feb-14 16:42:31

And Hatty, I read that like Balmoral! We are north of you at small resort near Morzinewink

hattymattie Wed 12-Feb-14 17:10:00

yup - it should read Valmorelblush don't know what's wrong with me this week. Does the menopause affect spelling?

Stropperella Wed 12-Feb-14 18:32:47

I am in shock after ds's parent's eve: it was an extraordinarily positive experience; not a single negative. I know enough to treasure the moment. grin

herbaceous Wed 12-Feb-14 18:50:13

Things are looking up, Stropps!

DS's too was v positive. Has achieved all the targets for the term, already, before half-term. Is acknowledged as mega-reader, and I have to start doing comprehension with him. His handwriting is a bit variable (but as he couldn't even write his name in September, I don't care). But overall he's generally wonderful, and I 'should be very proud'.

motherinferior Wed 12-Feb-14 18:52:39

wine to both of you and cake to the boys.

The report I am editing (warning, Lalsy and Addle - it's from the same organisation as before) is about maternal employment. It concludes that (a) lots of mothers would like to work more than they feel is possible at the moment (b) subsidised childcare would help (c) this would actually pay off in terms of public expenditure in any case.

No shit Sherlock.

MrsSchadenfreude Wed 12-Feb-14 18:57:25

We have DD1's parents' day the week after next. I had a look at her grades last night. She either gets As or Fs in maths - how is this even possible? No Bs, Cs or Ds, just As and Fs. confused

Blackduck Wed 12-Feb-14 20:21:12

MI - indeed no shit...

MrsS - I kind of like the A or F approach..... It's kind of 'I'm not wasting time' maybe??

cremolafoam Wed 12-Feb-14 20:42:17

Stropps excellent news about tomorrow. That's

We are sitting by candlelight as The Tempest has hit us at ramming speed and knocked off the electric. Dd is swotting by an oil lamp like its 1834 and dh is doing something to a generator. You could not go outside if your life depended on it. And it might as we are almost out of logsconfused
Welcome to the Underwater Kingdom. I can hear wheelie bins dancing down the street with horrific thuds. Eek.

Blackduck Wed 12-Feb-14 20:58:55

Dp spent 6 hours travelling to do an 1.30 meeting... 2 hours doing about a usual 20 mins - this is because of blocked roads/bridges/flooded towns etc......

Not fun

motherinferior Wed 12-Feb-14 20:59:46

How...Little House on the Prairie, Crem.

I rather like the A-F approach too, though realise it depends on her having a good day.

cremolafoam Wed 12-Feb-14 21:16:06

Back on, for now.
< adjusts bonnet>

bigTillyMint Wed 12-Feb-14 21:16:16

Well done mini-Stropps and mini-Herbs

DD is dreading hers after half-term. As she has always had glowing reports like the two above, this could be something of a sea-change.

Oh Cremo, it sounds dreadful. Like the night in the 1970's in the Power Cuts when the boiler behind the coal fire burst and my granddad turned up (with dementia)....

BD, did he set off in enough time(shock) or did he miss the meeting?

NUFC69 Wed 12-Feb-14 23:32:33

Well I am back from the sodden south (even if Staffordshire is north to you). Had an enjoyable few days with much eating and drinking - saw family and friends. And lots of snow yesterday which disappeared as soon as the temperature rose. I am now lying in bed and the rain and wind are rattling the windows.

Well done, Mr CV on his new job and to those of you whose children had good reports.

DGD1 spent several hours in A&E earlier this week with suspected meningitis, but fortunately is ok. DS dropped this into our conversation as a kind of aside when we'd been talking for about ten minutes! Men...

CointreauVersial Thu 13-Feb-14 01:28:20

Not my DH with a new job - he's just clocked up 21 years. They will be carrying him out in a box. Twas Crem's DH.

I am up late because I got embroiled in a technical issue with my laptop. I just couldn't let it rest, and ended up doing a system restore. But I fixed it!

<congratulates self on technical acumen>

<falls forward, snoring heavily>

Blackduck Thu 13-Feb-14 06:14:41

He got there for the meeting - but was somewhat knackered when he got home. We have decided that as Friday is likely to be as bad that I will either take leave or wfh so he can set off mega early.... (Has assessments on Friday so has to go in).

Last night my trains were effected so it's getting more and more worrying - have images of dp and I stuck on one side of the river(s) and ds on the other!

NUFC69 Thu 13-Feb-14 06:44:23

Oh dear, BD. The wind seems to have abated somewhat here; I think we're having a respite. Is it the Thames which affects you? The pictures are quite awful - I just wonder how long its going to take for the sheer volume of water to drain away, let alone when the poor people are going to get back in their homes. When our village was flooded it was almost a year before most got back.

NUFC69 Thu 13-Feb-14 06:50:59

Sorry, CV. I am (was) on phone and it takes ages to find something. I am impressed with your IT skills - took me weeks to work out how to switch the wifi back on when for some reason it turned itself off on my laptop! shock

Congratulations to Mr Crem then.

beachyhead Thu 13-Feb-14 07:47:54

Stropps, congratulations on dd's parents evening and good luck for today.

My ds is drip feeding his half term grades day by day. I think I see the full picture tonight (or I could log onto some hugely complicated website to get them, which is never going to happen!)

One shower has stopped working due to the high water table. Some dodgy drainage arrangement, apparently!

motherinferior Thu 13-Feb-14 07:57:09

It had to caught in the rain while conducting this morning's Ladyjoggrin

DD1 in filthy mood when I got back. Is it my fault she didn't leave enough time to get to her early German class? That would be a no. She is a perfectly competent child with an alarm who usually does all this herself....

bigTillyMint Thu 13-Feb-14 07:59:06

Stropps, thinking of you this morningsmile

MI, welcome to the world of teens. It is your fault. It is always your fault.

Blackduck Thu 13-Feb-14 08:38:21

Good luck Stropps - thinking of you!

NU - I am in the midlands, on a hill, but near two rivers which have led to the routes out being closed one by one so everyone is having to use the same single road - hence the horrendous drive.

Sunny here this morning smile

motherinferior Thu 13-Feb-14 08:53:57

Go Stropps! Remember, this is no time to be sane and buttoned-up grin

Stropperella Thu 13-Feb-14 09:08:54

<rearranges hair into especially wild look>


Right, I'm feeling nicely jittery this morning, so I'm probably in the most useful frame of mind for being assessed.

beachy, sorry to hear about your non-functional shower. I am beginning to worry about finding the groundwater bubbling over in my kitchen one morning soon. (Happened on a regular basis to my next door neighbour in the village where I used to live) 'Twas ds who was much lauded at the parents' eve. Dd's event a couple of weeks ago was just variations on the CDBIT theme, except for in Maths, where she is now getting A* without making much effort, although 6 months ago she was claiming she was a Maths dunce and would fail entirely. hmm

OK, I'm off <wibble>

NUFC69 Thu 13-Feb-14 09:29:32

Stropps, we're all rooting for you. Good luck and try to stay calm, although the wild hair look is always attractive, I think.

BD, I come from the Midlands too, I did leave .... mumble ... 40 years ago, and do have family in the Royal town still.

Not wishing to gloat, but lovely bright day here.

herbaceous Thu 13-Feb-14 09:35:21

Lovely day here too! Just conducted ladyjog. It's the fifth time I've done week two, mainly because I can't seem to work out how to download week three. I'm being incredibly dense.

I bought some new running clothes in, of course, Sainsbury's. I thought they were vaguely thermal, but seem to specialise in wicking any heat from the skin and inducing mild hypothermia. Maybe they're 'base layers'.

herbaceous Thu 13-Feb-14 09:36:09

And Stropps! Courage, mon brave. And don't be calm. This is no time to, as the slogan tediously has it, keep calm and carry on. Panic and wig out.

motherinferior Thu 13-Feb-14 09:39:53

Yep. Wibble. Hell, even dribble.

RudyMentary Thu 13-Feb-14 09:57:28

Hope it goes ok Strops xx

Stropperella Thu 13-Feb-14 12:21:40

I think I probably wibbled and dribbled. grin Feel a bit rung-out now. However, I shall go for a brisk walk with the dog and get self together. The chap said he wants to go away and consult, but is fairly sure that they can "offer me something". He also wants a psychiatrist to look at the issue of the meds. Which is something I have asked the GP about before, but got no answer on, really. The assessor chap also has the printouts of some of my misery-filled posts from the last thread <gulp>. So, we shall see...

motherinferior Thu 13-Feb-14 12:22:40

Sounds terrific, Stropps - really good. Well done.

QueenQueenie Thu 13-Feb-14 12:27:48

That's very brave Stropps. Give yourself a big pat on the back and have a hug. I was thinking too that it might be really helpful for your dd to see you getting help for yourself, that getting help for problems is an ok thing to do AND that you're important enough to need support and understanding too.

lalsy Thu 13-Feb-14 12:55:15

Stropps, that is really good, it must have been hard so no wonder you are wrung out, take it easy on yourself now. I agree with QQ.

herbaceous Thu 13-Feb-14 13:16:32

Hurrah for Stropps! This is the first day of the rest of your life, and other trite platitudes.

You can now return your hair to 'normal' setting, if the wind will allow.

NUFC69 Thu 13-Feb-14 13:23:06

Stropps, that sounds positive - well done for taking a big step (well, stride, really). QQ is talking a lot of sense.

wilbur Thu 13-Feb-14 13:35:41

Just checking in, haven't caught up at all, but wanted to say well done stropps for making the call. Hoping this is the first step towards something significantly helpful.

bigTillyMint Thu 13-Feb-14 13:48:10

Stropps, that all sounds really helpful. Well done! Fingers crossed they get the next steps sorted quickly. And that you can return your hair to normal settinggrin

motherinferior Thu 13-Feb-14 13:58:47

Do you think it might be time for us to ponder a celebratory meetup, perchance in March?

I just did the BBC Relationships Quiz. Pamela Stephenson thinks Mr Inferior and I have a Weak Relationship. Oh well grin

bigTillyMint Thu 13-Feb-14 13:59:36

I'm up for that, MI!

<off to find the quiz>

herbaceous Thu 13-Feb-14 14:02:19

Dare I do the quiz? Or is it best to keep the lid on that particular box...

But yes - a meet up in March would be simply wizard. In addition to, or instead of, QQ's Vietnamese meal. She's gone very quiet on that one.

herbaceous Thu 13-Feb-14 14:05:27

Phew. Pammy deemed ours 'generally healthy'.

motherinferior Thu 13-Feb-14 14:25:34

We were only just in the 'could do better' section. It's like BMI, a range of depressingness.

Blackduck Thu 13-Feb-14 14:45:29

Stropps {{ }} Enjoy the dog walk....

We could do better too MI.......
Ho Hum

bigTillyMint Thu 13-Feb-14 14:58:16

I have found the quiz, but can't get on itconfused

bigTillyMint Thu 13-Feb-14 16:51:57

Got onto the quiz... seems our relationship seems to display most of the qualities of a healthy relationship. But even full marks seemed to get the same answerconfused

lalsy Thu 13-Feb-14 17:05:40

I got generally healthy but cd be improved.

I wanted to put we don't have time to most qns - dh and i hardly seem to see each other, certainly not for long enough to have a proper row. We email each other a fair bit - does that count hmm

cremolafoam Thu 13-Feb-14 17:45:40

First of all Stropps , very well done this morning . I'm not surprised about feeling wrung out. But I hope ilit was also in a way cathartic ; and you should feel very proud of yourself for today. QQ is absolutely right about dd seeing you applying some self-care.
It's good for all of us, particularly us stoic types. thanks

I may well be on for a march meetup.
Wouldn't take much to persuade me.... grin
Garden is blown to smithereens by the gale. My greenhouse is no more sad than a metal skeleton and we have lost a 40 ft pine ( fortunately into the mini goat's little field next door .- no animals harmed)
I am looking up our insurance schedules to see if anything can be done.

cremolafoam Thu 13-Feb-14 17:47:30

Oh and just a little afraid to do that quiz tbh.confused

bigTillyMint Thu 13-Feb-14 18:41:56

Cremo, the winds did look to be bad on the weather last night over your waysad

Gwaaan, you know you want tosmile

MI are you organising us?

Stropperella Thu 13-Feb-14 18:43:03

Crem, but, but, that's your new garden sad I hope you get something back from the insurance.

blush for earlier "rung out" typo grin . Thanks for all the lovely messages! I had a long-planned Kaffee und Kuchen session with my German friends this afternoon, which helped me regain my balance a bit. Then the assessor chappie rang me this evening to say that he wants to see me again as he wants to find out some more stuff before deciding on the CBT options etc. He has written to the GP asking for expert review of the meds. He seems to think I have been on them too long, which is what I think too. I have to see him again in 2 weeks.

I told dd that I had been to an assessment and she was a bit like this => hmm She is mainly busy huffing about her GCSE art mock which lasts 5 hours and is taking place tomorrow. I have to magic up some corrugated cardboard, apparently. I must go and rummage in the garage, I think.

When I saw the locum GP last week, he seemed awfully familiar but I couldn't remember where I had seen him before. Took ds to his piano lesson after school today and then realised the dr is the father of the pupil who comes in after ds. Perils of small town living...

If the train service to London resumes by March, I would be up for a meetup. Public transport links from Dorset to London are currently rather dodgy, thanks to the insane weather, the next dose of which will be along shortly.

bigTillyMint Thu 13-Feb-14 18:50:22

Stroppsshock at running into the doc!
Good luck to your DD and you in finding all the stuff she needs but hasn't told you about till now.
And fingers crossed re the trains!

Stropperella Thu 13-Feb-14 18:50:48

(have not bothered to do a restore my hair to normal settings because of impending circuits class grin )

ps: Google have finally actioned a refund for my kaputt smartphone. Which is splendid because I have had to purchase a new phone. Phew.

Stropperella Thu 13-Feb-14 18:52:18

Ho yes, BTM, I am expecting a huge meltdown from dd this evening when she comes out with ludicrous list of stuff that she absolutely and totally has to have for tomorrow. No matter that I asked her repeatedly about this last w/e, earlier in the week etc etc. <sigh>

motherinferior Thu 13-Feb-14 18:54:24

I will organise but Not Yet. Still in editing hell. There are Tables. Say no more


Have cancelled choir, which I never do. I am however being paid Rather A Lot for it.

motherinferior Thu 13-Feb-14 18:56:17

Did you know that the longer we stay out of work after having children, the less we are likely to earn afterwards? I mean, did you? Really? Isn't it a shock?

<head on desk>

lalsy Thu 13-Feb-14 19:30:42

Tables shock

MI< you will need winewinewine

motherinferior Thu 13-Feb-14 19:35:30

I am thank heavens not editing the actual tables. But they still strike Terror into my Vitals.

And don't ask about the bibliography: suffice it to say that I have put lots of comments in saying THIS ISN'T CITED or DON'T YOU MEAN 2012 NOT 2010 and so forth.

I will drink gin in front of Nashville later.

wilbur Thu 13-Feb-14 20:00:23

MI - re your statistic, see my bank account for details.

cremolafoam Thu 13-Feb-14 20:19:10

Erm absolute no brainer
Time elapsed

= crap earnings.

I am pondering this very thing at the moment as my old job in Dublin ( pre marriage) has just been advertised today @ €60,000 p/a plus car and benefits and 40 days leave p/a
I laugh. Not. sad

NUFC69 Thu 13-Feb-14 20:24:37

Just cycled about for about fifty minutes, done 10 miles on the wretched exercise bike, level 7 and I have burned off a measly 200 calories! However, if you input on MFP that you have cycled x miles in y time it gives a fantastic calorie which bears no relation to what my bike says. So infuriating.

Like Wilbur my bank account agrees with MI's statistic.

I hope everyone's houses and gardens cope with whatever the weather throws at them over the next day or so. We're forecast snow tomorrow evening - but I can't see it being on the same scale as the east coast of the States.

QueenQueenie Thu 13-Feb-14 20:46:22

No shit MI! Who'd have thunk it!

Vietnamese scoffing trip still very much on offer to anyone within easy striking distance of Norf London.., I wasn't being coy (Herbs), rather not wanting to be all... "pushy" (a great failing in my mother's eyes). If you're free tomorrow any of you it's a date (as am all on my own in London and my friend who I had lined up for entertainment has bailed on me, <sniff>). If that is a tad soon let's fix a date!
Definitely in addition to not instead of any other March meetup I think...

herbaceous Thu 13-Feb-14 20:52:21

Soz QQ, I may have been temporarily gauche. Annoyingly I can't do tomorrow, as DP is out, so I am on child duty.

Bring forth more dates for all creepy meets!

bigTillyMint Thu 13-Feb-14 20:59:55

I can't do tomorrow QQ (not for Valentines reasons. More packing reasons!) but would love to on a future date!

DD is babysitting, but as she has a CA in French tomorrow, I am also awaiting a meltdown either tonight, or worse, tomorrow morning.

motherinferior Thu 13-Feb-14 21:07:47

I have a romantic evening in with this report, I suspect. We're spending lots of quality time together at the moment.

QueenQueenie Thu 13-Feb-14 21:08:38

No Herbs, you were absolutely right, I was just explaining my great enthusiasm followed by radio silence...
Thought tomorrow might be a bit soon wink but in 2 / 3 weeks maybe?

QueenQueenie Thu 13-Feb-14 21:10:24

Has anyone seen or heard from Auriga??

Hope you're ok Auriga and just too busy engaging with rl to be hanging around on here at all hours (like me).

cremolafoam Thu 13-Feb-14 21:15:15

I was wondering about Auriga as well. I hope she's ok( thinking high water)sad

lalsy Thu 13-Feb-14 21:19:07

We never do anything for Valentines but tomorrow I am doing nothing with unusual vigour, volunteering on my cold, deeply unromantic thing and then listening to a feminist talk with my dd. Pah - put that in yer pipe Pammy, with your helpful suggestions about finding time for each other.

motherinferior Thu 13-Feb-14 21:32:39

I have just managed to switch off the 'track changes' function for quite a lot of this report, which is going to be embarrassing...

DP gets curiously bothered about Valentine's cards...except apparently he hasn't got me one for various reasons grin He was covered in embarrassment. I pointed out that it really didn't matter unlike the year he nearly forgot my birthday

bigTillyMint Thu 13-Feb-14 22:02:20

Yes I was wondering about Auriga and the floods.

I doubt DH will bother at all with Valentines.

CointreauVersial Thu 13-Feb-14 22:04:45

I am drinking vanilla chai redbush tea. It is revolting. I am slowly stiffening up after a session of Ballet Fusion at the gym (every bit as scary as it sounds; I was hopelessly uncoordinated and stuck all the wrong bits out). I had a puncture earlier, which took up my afternoon. Puncture repair people, like fencing contractors and tree surgeons, are very busy people at the moment.

Well done on today's endeavours, Strops. It all sounds very positive.

NU I'm another Midlander. From the Shakespeare place.

herbaceous Thu 13-Feb-14 22:17:29

My fasting regime is not proceeding with vigour. Today I had an omelette for lunch, then (entire tub of rather fattening) soup for tea. But then I had DS's leftover chips, a cappuccino, and two lindor. Then DP came home with wine and toblerone.

RudyMentary Thu 13-Feb-14 22:29:41

I just came to see if Auriga had posted for a while. Hope she's ok.

Strops - it sounds like you've had a constructive day. Hope you're ok and sleep well.

Valentines? We just have a meal in alone together which, as it's a Friday, we would be doing anyway.

I daren't do that quiz atm. DH and I are spending every weekend in February apart hmm

Blackduck Fri 14-Feb-14 06:19:59

I am spending tonight with an unspecified number of people - safari dinner in aid of a friend who is doing London Marathon for a local hospice (for all you ladyjoggers out there she's up to 17 miles....)

Valentines never happens in this house but I was shock at a bunch of flowers on M&S site at a mere £120 - as my administrator pointed out 'that's a pair of boots, and I'd sooner have the boots every time'!

Hmm to that quiz, could have decked dp last night - if I say something to you at least an acknowledgement would be nice...

NUFC69 Fri 14-Feb-14 07:27:59

Surprise, surprise, DH just wished me Happy Valentine's Day. (We don't do VD since the first year of our relationship when I bought him a card and we split up later that night!)

Has anyone ever ordered from Wrap? Things look lovely on line and some great bargains in the winter sale.

I hope roofs, fences and trees are still in place for you all? Local BBC weather girl says we're being sheltered from bad weather by the Penines which I sort of knew, but hadn't thought about.

wilbur Fri 14-Feb-14 07:49:15

I bought little Valentines cards and chocolate lips for the kids (I know, I know, but it's my American heritage - I'd buy them for friends if they didn't look at me like hmm) but am having trouble summoning up enthusiasm for something for dh. I blame the weather, plus my back is really bad and the thought of any, er, embracing makes me wince. I did manage to find him a card with a bicycle on it and as he loves his bike a teeny bit more than he loves me, I thought that was quite good. I'm wondering whether Waitrose will have any of their dine in deals left later today.

I did that quiz - got same as Herbs. It did prompt quite a fundamental question though - dh is a lovely man, he is funny, caring, great dad and works very hard to give us a good life, but he is not good at seeing things from others' POVs. If something is not so for dh, then is is not so. If it is not important to him, then it is not important. IYSWIM. He acknowledges this is true, but, obviously, sees no reason why he should try and change it. I feel it holds him back from all sorts of things (not least from progressing at work as he will not take any advice or jump through the tiniest hoop) and also it means that I rarely share what going on in my head with him (except when it pours out in a messy and undignified flood) because I know he will think I'm unhinged and/or making a fuss about nothing. I would really like to find a way to change this dynamic, but I have no idea how.

Auriga Fri 14-Feb-14 07:54:56

Am here and still above water, thanks. For some reason to do with tides (I think) we have been spared any flooding locally this time, though we've had almost continuous rain.

Sorry I haven't posted: been a bit battered by RL and when I've dipped in here I've been too inarticulate to add anything. But v pleased for Crem's husband and for Stropps smile. Also taking notes on how to get teens through CA crises.

DH has just handed me Valentine; not quite a first, but almost. Sorry can't meet tonight QQ - we're taking DD to Cologne to visit her German exchange family grin.

Have good w/e everyone

bigTillyMint Fri 14-Feb-14 08:08:10

Auriga, glad to see you haven't been washed away! Have a good safe journey - are you going all the way with her? Train/boat/plane?

DD left without too much angst - perhaps the money earned last night is soothing the brow?!

RudyMentary Fri 14-Feb-14 08:09:12

Glad you're ok Auriga.

It was strange reading your post Wilbur as I was debating getting the DCs something for valentines day. DD is having a tough time atm. Then I went on to read about your DH, the bike, your relationship etc and that all sounded very familiar too.

I currently seem to spend my life feeling guilty about stuff.

motherinferior Fri 14-Feb-14 08:14:01

Bon courage, Auriga.

I just went and thanked DP for (a) cooking a very nice meal last night when he got in - he had gone to considerable effort which I appreciate on a Thursday (b) totally respecting my need to focus on this expletive deleted report to the exclusion of minor things like participation in domestic life for a few days. I said fulsomely that this meant more to me than a card.

(And then I smugly handed him a card, which also had a bike on it and the message inscribed by me 'you spin my wheels' which I felt was suitably suggestive yet non-specific.)

RudyMentary Fri 14-Feb-14 08:18:50

you soon my wheels smile

I like that MI.

addle Fri 14-Feb-14 08:21:32

sounds v hopeful stropps, fingers crossed

trivial - herbs and mrs s - i def. like that m&s perfume you hate and would be happy to buy yours from you. i also have an only just started bottle of le noir which suits me less well and would be happy to hand it over

mi - tables - cold chills. hope it's done now

have never had a valentine's card from dh but when we first moved into our house and it was a wreck he did paint across one wall 'DH loves addle'

we have three parties this weekend... am tired already

motherinferior Fri 14-Feb-14 08:23:02

Addle, it will not be over for ages yet. I foresee a rather grim weekend while the Inferiorettes frolic at various of their own parties.

Blackduck Fri 14-Feb-14 08:27:07

Auriga - good to hear you are okay!

Wilbur - dp is somewhat like that. Luckily it's not hindered him at work but the important thing I get. I also don't tell dp what's in my head because he doesn't always get and I can see the 'pull yourself together DO something' in his eyes.

Ds is also having a tough time - pre teen hormonal girls giving him a hard time. Told him to steer clear.

herbaceous Fri 14-Feb-14 08:54:58

Ooh, addle, how thrilling. I'd love to do a smell swap. Should we do it by post, or wait until we meet?

I got DP a great card from Not On The High Street. He periodically grows a beard, which I really like – it makes his eyes twinkle – then shaves it off again, against my protests. Here. I got them to write a pertinent message inside.

I thought it was most apt, but he didn't seem particularly moved. I sometimes feel I don't make enough effort, so it's a bit discouraging when I do, and get a big fat 'meh'.

DS has TWO birthday parties this weekend. It also appears he now has THREE girlfriends at school, all of whom will be at the parties.

bigTillyMint Fri 14-Feb-14 09:04:37

Wilbur and Rudy, can I join the crepeys with bike loving DH's club?! DH finds it difficult to grasp that other people (especially DD and I) think in a different way to him, and that their/our hearts can get in the way of their heads IYSWIM!

Rudy, IIRC your DD is slightly older than mine - it seems to be a tricky time for them with all the pressures of exams etc together with all the social pressures.

I gave DH a jumper (that I had found in the Cos sale at 70% off!!!) and he guiltily said he would take me for a drink tonight. We have skiing packing to do and it will be bucketing, so it's not looking that attractive a proposition!

RudyMentary Fri 14-Feb-14 09:27:47

Yr10 BTM (15).

She struggles academically and it must be even more difficult for her having a twin who is 'clever'. She has a friend she was very close to but they have drifted apart slightly and DD confided in me earlier this week that she is hurt that she hasn't been invited to this friends party tonight. I'm not a parent who becomes outraged by lack of invites but that doesn't stop her hurting.
I found out last night that her twin, who has never been particularly friendly with this girl, is invited. sad

So, I have a feeling DD may be joining DH and I for our intimate dinner tonight - which is ok smile I'm going to buy her some flowers for her room today.

herbaceous Fri 14-Feb-14 09:30:22

Oh Rudy. That did make me sad for your DD. Being 15 was utterly shit, I seem to remember. A lot of stuff going on that I didn't understand, but felt I should. Especially about friendships. Not realising that said friends didn't really know why they did what they did.

Flowers for her room is a lovely idea.

motherinferior Fri 14-Feb-14 09:40:09

Oh Rudy, that is awful.

You are a great mum, though.

Blackduck Fri 14-Feb-14 10:07:07

Rudy that is grim - but flowers are great!

I notice the joggers ignored the 17 miles grin - if it makes you feel better she says it is unutterably boring.....

Blackduck Fri 14-Feb-14 10:26:58

Like the card Herbs....

NUFC69 Fri 14-Feb-14 10:44:51

Lovely card, Herbs.

It's my DGS's third birthday tomorrow and all the family are going out for an Italian where they will make a big fuss of DGS. We're hoping that the table will be near enough to the kitchen so that he can see what is going on, but as there will be 11 of us it may not be possible. It's a big birthday period for us: DGS, DH, DD, me, DSis plus numerous friends over the course of about six weeks. DH and I are going out for a meal on Tuesday night which is his actual birthday - DGS and I will be making DH a cake on Tuesday when he comes for the day. By the way, a friend told me that she buys mini sparklers for cakes, puddings, etc., these days, so for Christmas I bought a "fountain". It was great; can highly recommend this - makes something quite simple look very special. (Of course you may already do things like this anyway, in which case ignore me).

DH has gone out for his normal Friday morning cycle ride (no rain or snow here yet), I have been on the internet (again) trying to find a holiday - or at least decide what we actually want to do. It's a hard life ...

bigTillyMint Fri 14-Feb-14 10:48:30

Oh Rudysad for your DD. Flowers would be a lovely idea - it would make her feel really special. DH said Y9 is the worst year for fallings out, etc, but Y10 seems pretty tough too.

DD and some of her girlfriends are planning to go out together tonight - not sure if any boys are involved and dread to think when the packing will get done, but the plans don't seem to have been finalised yet...

motherinferior Fri 14-Feb-14 10:58:37

Oooh, what's a fountain?

Today's revelation: in addition to cost, parents have other concerns about childcare, such as cost, location and flexible hours. You heard it here first.

motherinferior Fri 14-Feb-14 10:59:26

That should read quality, location and flexible hours...

BD, I am Studiously Ignoring your friend and her 17 miles grin

Blackduck Fri 14-Feb-14 11:40:31

MI smile

RudyMentary Fri 14-Feb-14 12:00:20

NUFC - I use cake fountains but had trouble finding them for our last crop of birthdays. This could have been because it was after Christmas though and I didn't look too hard

They look like a big candle but when you light it it's similar to a large sparkler that lasts for 30 secs or so and then burns itself out. Good for older DCs/adults or younger ones with supervision.

Thanks for sympathy re DD. DS didn't realise she wasn't invited and suggested he shouldn't go. I said he should but his thoughtful consideration for his sister made me shed another tear.

DH is away for the entire half term <<sigh>>

herbaceous Fri 14-Feb-14 12:04:42


Blackduck Fri 14-Feb-14 12:08:29

Oh Rudy how fab of ds. Hope DD is okay. I am dreading all this, bad enough watching ds and the trauma at the moment.

NUFC69 Fri 14-Feb-14 12:20:21

Rudy, I particularly like the fountains. I disappeared into the kitchen after main course on Christmas Day. DH switched off the lights in the dining room and then I carried in the Xmas pud with the fountain lit: the little ones were shock
! I bought both the fountain and little sparklers in a small cookery shop in Market Harborough. They just seem more special than candles.

So sorry to hear tales of teenage angst - I think it's mostly the worst time of anyone's life. All you can do is to be there for them, offer shoulders to cry on and copious tissues. As a mum you will never be free of worry about your children.

herbaceous Fri 14-Feb-14 12:25:53

For those on to whom I have not inflicted the Facebook photo, this morning DS made me a PowerPoint slide saying: "Dear Mummy. I miss you at scool" Complete with a picture of some books. He's 4.5.

motherinferior Fri 14-Feb-14 12:36:08

Oh sniff.

NUFC69 Fri 14-Feb-14 12:46:49

Ah, bless, Herbs. Your DS's IT acumen sounds better than mine.

Blackduck Fri 14-Feb-14 12:48:14

I love Herb's ds's ppts! Remind me of when ds used to leave little notes in my pockets!

cremolafoam Fri 14-Feb-14 13:08:01

Oh Rudy heartbreaking situation but your ds is a credit to you and the flowers are a lovely idea
Had a little weep at Mini Herbs ppt presentation and addles dh's graffiti.
So far not a peep from dh about the day that's in it. However he is giving in his notice today at work so may be forgiven for being distracted.
We had a giggle last night writing it, but I persuaded him gently to change it from :
Dear fascist bully boys,
Fuck you and your bastard crappy job. Hell slap it up you and May all your systems crash irreparably in perpetuity now that you have NOONE fix them any more.
Mr C Foam
Ps you can take your exit interview and stick it where the sun don't shine

To a template resignation letter off the Monster websitegrin

Blackduck Fri 14-Feb-14 13:11:01

Cremo- he should have sent the original!!! smile

herbaceous Fri 14-Feb-14 13:12:20

I'm feeling very Proud Mother ATM. Glowing progress report in school, dear little PPT presentations, and then after his drama class yesterday the teacher took me aside and told me he's got an AMAZING singing voice. (Her capitals. She tends to speak in capitals.)

Blackduck Fri 14-Feb-14 13:15:16

Herbs smile

motherinferior Fri 14-Feb-14 13:16:37

Herbs, you don't want a very pretty, charming but lurching and huffy 13 year old to balance him out do you? Only slightly soiled...

hattymattie Fri 14-Feb-14 13:20:54

Rudy - had exactly this situation with DD2 (also 15) about two weeks ago. She was in tears as was not invited to a party that everybody else was invited to by a girl who she has lunch with every day and whom she thought was her friend. It was kept secret and she only found out when, of course, the pictures appeared on FB.

I think the situation has been resolved now but I agree it's so tough - fab of your DS though to stay in solidarity with his twin.

My DH is leaving to take DS to his grandparents this evening so no Valentine's day for me. I'll only see DH to handover child at the station. DD1 has phoned to say her party this evening is cancelled so I can snuggle inside with my girls and

herbaceous Fri 14-Feb-14 13:21:26

He balances it out himself, but shouting that he hates me into my face, refusing to stay in bed, and telling me he's going to wee on me.

motherinferior Fri 14-Feb-14 13:22:22

Suddenly DD1 looks shiny and new grin

hattymattie Fri 14-Feb-14 13:53:30

Herbsshock grin

MI - only about four more years to go.

motherinferior Fri 14-Feb-14 13:58:05

There's another one following...

bigTillyMint Fri 14-Feb-14 14:29:09

Awww for sweet DS'ssmile

I think we will be having a family Valentines tonight as DD seems to be thinking she would rather stay insmile

herbaceous Fri 14-Feb-14 14:41:31

DP is out tonight, and probably working and visiting his family tomorrow. He's been in Dublin the past two days. Feeling a trifle lone parent.

motherinferior Fri 14-Feb-14 16:17:42

Oh Herbs.

Again, if you would like a grumbleflumpSLAMgrumbleSHOUTgrumbleNOBODYUNDERSTANDS 13 year old to distract (she is very good with children) I can offer one for a very reasonable price...

Seriously, though, a bit pants.

back to the report. Conclusions now. Then the summary. ...

Blackduck Fri 14-Feb-14 16:22:13

Absolutely torrential rain on the school run - all totally soaked......
Hoping dp gets back okay for our trek around the village! Glad I'm not hosting anything - a dozen damp people trailing through the house? No thanks!

QueenQueenie Fri 14-Feb-14 16:23:52

Conclusions and summary sounds promisingly near the end MI!
Herbs, MI, I find the dcs all have their charms and less desirable foibles at every age... it's just that the form it takes changes....

Ds2 on his way back from skiing holiday, arriving tomorrow to keep me company. I miss dh and ds1, but if I'm honest the oddest thing is being at home without ddog!

bigTillyMint Fri 14-Feb-14 16:27:04

Friend at work got a lovely bouquet deliveredenvy from her DH of 20 years. I photographed it to show DH (they are also friends)smile

QueenQueenie Fri 14-Feb-14 17:09:04

Have just spent money I wasn't planning on spending on the boden clearance site... some good stuff (and lots of hideous stuff). Have purchased this cashmere jumper for 24 and blingtastic trousers (to wear on those days when I'm not sporting my gold addle skirt..).

Blackduck Fri 14-Feb-14 17:12:19

See QQ always surprises me when you link to such stuff because I have you down as a monochrome kinda girl ;-)

QueenQueenie Fri 14-Feb-14 17:12:51

Ew. My link shows a horrible dog poo coloured jumper... I passed on that colourway and mine is the one with black and whit stipes and a bright pink neck. My trews are the lairy silver ones...

QueenQueenie Fri 14-Feb-14 17:18:42

I'm a women of extremes BD... monochrome or lairy...

Blackduck Fri 14-Feb-14 17:19:28

I like the lairy silver ones....

bigTillyMint Fri 14-Feb-14 17:22:09

Oh QQ, I have to admit I have also succumbed to the Boden clearance... I can't do cropped trousers - they look like pedal pushers on me! Got long red cord jeans and an ecru jumper - nothing as blingtastic as yours!

QueenQueenie Fri 14-Feb-14 17:25:18

my secret tip is to buy them in the long length.. hey presto! they're not cropped.

CointreauVersial Fri 14-Feb-14 17:26:46

I have exactly that jumper in my Shopping Bag at the moment! I also have a nigh-on identical pair of trews I bought at Next just before Christmas, which I wore with a black top and a blingy necklace, as an alternative to the LBD. The Bistro Crops are lovely.

See, I reckon QQ has a very colourful side. wink

Anyhoo, must venture out in the rain to collect DD2 from her Valentine's Disco. She went to a friend's house to get changed after school, carting several outfits and a sack full of makeup and hair accessories. Said friend's mother is a hairdresser, so I imagine curling tongs may have been involved.

QueenQueenie Fri 14-Feb-14 17:30:47

Buy it CV, we can be knitwear twins!
Nice trews BTM and I really like the shape of that jumper. Bargains!

bigTillyMint Fri 14-Feb-14 17:45:41

Ah yes, they would probably be the right length of cropped on me then!

motherinferior Fri 14-Feb-14 18:37:20

I am double checking the bibliography.

Nuff said.

Haven't started on the summary. Then have to read through, spot numerous mistakes, etc. Will be a looooooooong weekend.

bigTillyMint Fri 14-Feb-14 19:02:02

MI, marking students books sounds a breeze in comparison!

herbaceous Fri 14-Feb-14 19:15:06

Tempting though the Boden sale is, I'm not allowed to spend money as I've put my name down for the choir tour in May, which is going to be £300. How about this for crepey - we're all going by coach to Harrogate, then singing in a couple of concerts.

DS being 'challenging'. I'm putting it down to being knackered after a long few weeks at school. I have already started on the wine.

QueenQueenie Fri 14-Feb-14 19:23:29

I prescribe an early night for him Herbs!
Ladysinging jaunt sounds most crepey...

NUFC69 Fri 14-Feb-14 19:40:32

Herbs, you will like Harrogate, I think - we've been several times. Whereabouts are you singing? Or is it something to do with the Conference Centre? We usually stay at the Holiday Inn, which is convenient for everything, although have done the Majestic, too. You must try a trip to Betty's and have a Fat Rascal. Some nice fashion shops, too, if you can be dragged away from the singing.

Sorry to hear about DS - my DD was telling me how tomorrow's birthday boy was being completely obnoxious this morning both pre-nursery and after they arrived there (something on the lines on her not parking in the parking spot he wanted her to use!). Enjoy your wine.

CointreauVersial Fri 14-Feb-14 19:56:01

The washing machine has stopped working. <gnashes teeth and rends unwashed garments>

It fills with water, the timer ticks down, but the drum turneth not. angry angry

I just found a bottle of Laurent Perrier in the depths of the fridge. It is going down very well.

motherinferior Fri 14-Feb-14 19:57:28

Oh CV sad angry

Drink. It is the only way.

herbaceous Fri 14-Feb-14 19:58:32

He had a total meltdown because I only offered fruit for pudding. I only ever offer fruit for pudding. He then started to climb up to the cupboard to get a tin of 'treats'. I took it and put it in a high cupboard. Cue another meltdown.

Now he is repeatedly getting out of bed, then when I get cross saying "But I can't go to sleep if you're not being happy."

<glug glug glug>

Not sure where we're singing yet. Someone's organising it for us. I don't think our choir's in the same league as yours. No-one actually asks us to come - we just invite ourselves along!

CointreauVersial Fri 14-Feb-14 20:02:58

<chinks glasses with Herbs>

CointreauVersial Fri 14-Feb-14 20:04:37

DH just said "surely it just needs a new belt?" as if he is going to whip out a screwdriver and fix it. angry

motherinferior Fri 14-Feb-14 20:19:02

I've double checked the bibliography. Now I'm starting to edit the executive summary.

How in the name of all that is holy can I seriously say 'Families where parents work have more money', which is what this sentence is effectively getting at? Eh? Eh????

bigTillyMint Fri 14-Feb-14 20:19:33

CV, Laurent Perrierenvy!

Haven't been to Harrogate for years. But it is lovely. And Bettys is an institution!

I remember those toddler tantrums. We now have teenage tantrums, of course!

Had our romantic family chippy dinner, now have to motivate everyone to bag packconfused

bigTillyMint Fri 14-Feb-14 20:21:35

CV, that is exactly the sort of thing DH (who is similarly practically/mechanically challenged) would sayangry

motherinferior Fri 14-Feb-14 20:22:18

We have no booze except gin. And I dare not edit drunk. Imagine.

herbaceous Fri 14-Feb-14 20:25:57

After his dessert-based tantrum he wailed 'look how many drips you've made'. It took me a while to realise he was complaining about the number of tears on his cheeks. Which of course made me forgive him everything.

NUFC69 Fri 14-Feb-14 20:33:34

Sorry, Herbs, have I misled you? My several times to Harrogate have been weekends away, not singing! I do occasionally sing in a choir but I have never been asked to sing anywhere apart from churches. There is a fundraising Faure's Requiem soon - a come along and we'll put a performance together kind of thing to raise money for refugees. I would have liked to have done it but am not available during the day for the practice.

It sounds as if your DS is suffering from half term itis. He'll probably be ok after a bit of a rest.

Sorry about the washing machine, CV. It's like my oven packing up on Xmas Day, these things always happen when it's most inconvenient.

NUFC69 Fri 14-Feb-14 20:35:58

Love it, Herbs. My DGS said his eyes were leaking! Love the things little ones come out with.

Blackduck Sat 15-Feb-14 08:01:26

I had a fab evening trail round peoples houses - was all a bit 'come dine with me'n good time had by all and I have severe house envy. But then have been trying to sleep in a severe gale and couldn't because I thought the windows were going to be blown in!!

Blackduck Sat 15-Feb-14 08:04:00

And I put on a top that only just fits and now know a. I need to lose weight 5:2 here I come and b. I need to exercise....

beachyhead Sat 15-Feb-14 08:24:32

Survived the South Coast gale here. Only one branch down, which is incredible considering the noise it made.

Fantastic Valentines fondue for all here, obviously bar dd1 who is buried in snow in New York. Seems to be having a good time though.

Like those trousers, QQ.

Really pleased with your assessment, Stropps. It sounds as if they are being thorough, which is great. Strange how it only needs one good health professional in any situation to change the course you take.

bigTillyMint Sat 15-Feb-14 09:27:06

BD, I remember doing Safari Suppers in the 70's. I don't remember it being very Come Dine with Me then thoughgrin

Wind was terrible last night - thought the dodgy fence on our side return was going to come down but DH propped it up with a brush, in the style of your DH, CV!

Thank God DH didn't book an early plane to the Alps - don't have to leave here till 1smile

Blackduck Sat 15-Feb-14 09:33:36

It was all the lovely houses - the food was pretty good too..... So instead of leaving a mess in one house we left a mess in four!!!

Still howling here - off to collect niece in a bit and then a quiet day.

Have a good weekend crepeys

herbaceous Sat 15-Feb-14 09:48:14

Sorry NU - I had some kind of brain short circuit, and thought I was replying to Auriga, who is proper choiry.

And indeed, re DS. Lots of RandR planned. We've just watched Toy Story for the second time in two days. I bought it ages ago, he refused to watch it, then when I finally persuaded him, he cried at the end because it was too short.

motherinferior Sat 15-Feb-14 10:15:25

I am back at the desk. Both Inferioriettes have parties to go to. I myself may make it out to purchase hairdye, having helped DD1 buy a present for Non Date Boy and bought sparkly nail varnish* for DD2's friend (who is one of those tall 11 year olds who look like a different species from DD2)...what is wrong with this picture, eh?

*At Sainsbury's, obviously. Rather nice range of nail polishes in that sort of classy Dioralike packaging. Though, to my distress, the clothing section is closed as is being revamped. Herbs, I shall update you on the new emporium when it opens...

MrsSchadenfreude Sat 15-Feb-14 10:41:29

Saturdays always seem to be a day of cleaning and tidying to me, rather than rest and relaxation. DBIL and his DP are coming to stay tonight, and we are going out for dinner with them. Unfortunately I have no idea what time they are arriving - DH texted and was told "We'll let you know when we are leaving." The DDs and I are going to the theatre this afternoon, so won't be in, and DH has gone into town to find a birthday present for his DB. Place looks like even more of a shit hole than usual as DH has ripped some wallpaper off the wall in the hall, the cats have had a fight and covered the carpet in fur. There is condensation in the wardrobe and all of my clothes are sitting on the floor in the bedroom at the moment - I have no idea where I am going to put them, but obviously they can't live there forever. Will stick them in a suitcase for now, and push the hoover round to see if that helps matters...

MrsSchadenfreude Sat 15-Feb-14 10:48:49

Oh and the old man who lives upstairs from us is worried that he is going to be murdered and has started sleeping on the stairs. He has Alzheimers and various other problems and several carers who don't seem to care at all - DH spoke to them about him and his worries and got a shrug and a glazed look. He asked DH if he could sleep at ours last weekend. While I'm happy to give him tea and a meal, I think this is taking things too far (thankfully DH agreed). DH is going to try and get hold of social services on Monday. sad

CointreauVersial Sat 15-Feb-14 11:04:54

MrsS, that's really sad. Has he any family at all?

It's still blowing a gale here, although beautifully sunny. The boys are at football, somewhere miles away, and the DDs have only just got up - they were absolutely exhausted by the end of the school week, poor lambs. DD1 came home with a good school report, although she was a bit despondent having been moved down a set in languages (from top to second of four sets). I've told her she might actually enjoy being top of the class.

I've booked a washing machine engineer for Monday (I have a day off for my birthday, conveniently), although the machine is ten years old, so we are debating whether we should just cut our losses and get a new one (throwaway society....tut tut). I suppose if there was ever a convenient time for a machine to break down, it would be half term, as I don't have the usual weekend rush to get uniform and kit clean for next week.

BTM - have a lovely week, you lucky thing.

wilbur Sat 15-Feb-14 11:37:30

Yes, have a lovely week, btm.

Sat eating Waitrose dine-in for £20 last night, listening to the storm and watching the big picture window in our lounge bow in and out shock. Then heard a massive crash, shattering glass - thought it was the greenhouse but couldn't see in the dark and I didn't want dh to investigate in case any falling glass got him in some kind of Omen-like accident. Got up this morning to find it was part of the greenhouse, but mainly it was a huge piece of plate glass that formed the end wall of a sort of covered terrace are we have (there are a range of strange outbuildings to this house). I'm sad about it as I doubt we will be able to replace it - roof to this area is quite old and I don't think any glaziers would touch it. It was a rather fabulous 60s party feature of the house. Still, house, fences and trees still standing, so I can't complain (although I will a bit when I have to pick up all the glass).

Sorry about your washing machine, CV, that's a pain.

herbaceous Sat 15-Feb-14 11:38:44

It's our turn for an invitation snub. One of DP's oldest friends lives nearby, and we've always been to her DD1's birthdays. The fact that she's six today, and will be having a party, is all over Facebook, but we haven't been invited. I'm hoping it's because at six, she actually wants to invite her own friends, not just children of her parents' friends, but am watching FB with interest to see who else is going!

bigTillyMint Sat 15-Feb-14 11:55:29

MrsSsad Thank goodness you/your DH are helping out. Does he have any family?

Some movement from the DC on the packing/showering front. DH has planned a lovely journey involving a bus, train, plane and car. Thankfully DS can now carry a huge rucksack!

beachyhead Sat 15-Feb-14 12:08:50

That's very sad Mrs S. I hope SS can track down some family or help in some way.

Sorry about your glass Wilbur. You won't believe how far glass can travel when smashed at speed!

motherinferior Sat 15-Feb-14 12:59:31

Wilbur, how terrifying! MrsS, good for your DH (!) in trying to sort out the neighbour.

Have sorted some glorious social opportunities for my daughters next week...envy

bigTillyMint Sat 15-Feb-14 16:47:15

Wilbur, I saw the pic on FB shock what a shame.

We are at Luton airport after a traffic jam (bus) and delayed train. The plane is now delayed 3 hourssad Annoyingly, there is one departing to Geneva in half an hour which is running on timeangry

QueenQueenie Sat 15-Feb-14 17:59:21

Just popping in to say have a fab holiday BTM.

NUFC69 Sat 15-Feb-14 18:25:54

Have a great holiday, BTM. I hope the wait isn't too tedious. I hate airports; I am never interested in shopping, all I want is a quiet seat.

Just back from DGS's birthday lunch. It didn't start well - DH dropped me at the door in the rain and I discovered that they had no record of DD's reservation! Fortunately they could do a table for 11 so we were ok. DGS loved it when they brought out a cake with lit candles, rang a bell and announced his birthday. Everyone joined in singing and DGS, who is shy, positively beamed. Back to DD's house later for tea and cake. Now shattered as the noise level was quite high, but loved it all.

CointreauVersial Sat 15-Feb-14 19:43:09

Bad luck, BTM. At least it's giving the wind a chance to die down before you get on the plane. wink

NU - sounds like a lovely party.

Wilbur - how scary. I was flinching every time I heard a thump or a bang during the night, but luckily there was no broken glass here. Our greenhouse (a.k.a storage space for spare pots and bag of compost) is plastic anyway.

Blackduck Sat 15-Feb-14 20:52:32

Have a great hol BTM!!

Blackduck Sun 16-Feb-14 07:38:05

Wilbur sorry about your glass - seriously thought that was going to be us Friday night.
Last night was lovely and peaceful in comparison.

BTM hope you got away.
MrsS how terribly sad - hope something gets sorted soon.

beachyhead Sun 16-Feb-14 08:15:58

Winter has arrived. Very heavy frost here with bright sunshine. Probably the same as what BTM is waking up to.

We had dinner last night at a friend who's electricity has been off since the storm on Friday. It was quite eerie driving there, village after village in darkness. We had the most amazing supper cooked over a camping stove and ate surrounded by candles. It was lovely.

Blackduck Sun 16-Feb-14 09:07:57

Frosty here too, but clear blue sky smile

RudyMentary Sun 16-Feb-14 09:16:05

How sad MrsS - well done for stepping in.

Scary glass story Wilbur! Thank god no-one was near it.

Your night out sounds lovely beachy. We live in a non street lit area (have power obviously) and I love it. Creates a sense of calm for me but our whole family are equipped with torches for our walks home!

Sunny here and no frost. DH off to the USA this morning.
I'm only off to the wilds of Suffolk for the day.

QueenQueenie Sun 16-Feb-14 11:44:49

Ooh, where are you headed Rudy? If you see dh, ds1 and ddog on your travels give them a wave and tell them I miss them!

herbaceous Sun 16-Feb-14 12:03:50


Just got in from first c25K week3 run, involving the daunting 'running for three minutes'. Twice. But I did it! And it wasn't too bad! Though once again I engineered the route so the long running bits were downhill or flat. And I did feel as if my lungs were going to collapse.

Knees hurt a bit less, now, which puts me in a quandary. My shoes have a 30-day guarantee, which runs out in three days' time. So, if it's the shoes causing my knees to hurt, I can change them. But I'm not sure it is the shoes. And I do like them so! They've got neon orange on!

NUFC69 Sun 16-Feb-14 12:32:44

Lovely day up here, too. DH is outside tidying up the garden; I did go out briefly and pull up some dead leaves (have to show willing! ). After a light lunch we're meeting Dd, her family and ILs to visit an ice cream parlour, so the weather must be better. I really should be tidying/cleaning as I have about 20 people coming tomorrow afternoon for a meeting.

Hope everyone's gardens and houses are ok after the storms. Also hope that the elderly upstairs neighbour is all right (Mrs S, I think). Your DH must be a lovely man.

herbaceous Sun 16-Feb-14 12:39:44

I'm about to meet DP and DS at the local park, which is TEEMING with children, as it's the first sunny weekend day for about a decade. Then perhaps some light gardening - I haven't even planted bulbs yet. I wonder if it's still worth doing?

cremolafoam Sun 16-Feb-14 13:02:30

shock Wilbur , not your greenhouse too.
Today is the first day I can actually go out and assess the devastation. Greenhouse frame is not too bad but only one pane not smashed. We are going to try for an insurance claim as new panes can be got apparently. wink

It is a perfect sunny bright day here todaysmile. Mostly I will be gathering bits of pot and glass . I've also got a job application to finish. But not feeling enthusiastic about it.

BTM hope the slopes are powdery and the break does you good!

NUFC69 Sun 16-Feb-14 13:07:47

Herbs, up here our daffodils are one or two inches high, so definitely too late. The snowdrops are flowering, but then so are some roses and at Xmas the penstemons were still blooming! You might be ok with things like anemones. The village churchyard looks amazing at this time of year - first the snowdrops, then crocus: quite stunning.

herbaceous Sun 16-Feb-14 13:54:03

Our daffs and crocii are all out in force - these are more summer bulbs I'm contemplating.

beachyhead Sun 16-Feb-14 14:21:45

Crem, try phoning the manufacturer (if you know the make and model) and they will give you the exact measurements. It's always something obscure like 2470mm x 7130mm and it has to be right! Our local greenhouse shop has a 'man who mends'. He fitted my glass and tied mine down to the patio for a small sum, thank god. Honestly, if he hadn't done all the tying down and drilling in, my greenhouse would have been half way across the garden after Friday!

Having a lovely peaceful day here, baking with dd2. Off to visit my dad who starts the conversation 'Well, if you are passing a shop, could you .......' so it's off to Sainsbury's on the way.

Dd1 back tomorrow - can't wait to see her, assuming planes are leaving NY at the moment.

lalsy Sun 16-Feb-14 16:35:57

Oooh bad luck on glass Wilbur and Crem, and I hope you have a lovely holiday BTM.

I have had a lovely weekend and now slightly dreading half term.

bigTillyMint Sun 16-Feb-14 17:50:34

Hope ur DD gets back safely beachy and that all greenhouses are mendable!

Epic journey yesterday, ending with 4 hour delay on plane and then very heavy snow on the last leg up to where we are staying. It was like driving in a computer gameshock
So slopes very powdery and mogully today and hard to see contours - not my fav but I skied all morning then after lunch my friend and I walked for a bit before escaping the snow in a cafewink DC and DHs all skied out! Now off for dinner...

cremolafoam Sun 16-Feb-14 18:30:28

Beachy you are absolutely right about the panes. Manufacturer long gone ( to the great compost heap of defunct businesses ) so going have to have some of them cut . Dh's allotment mate came up and they stood beside it makingwink faves and puffing about the pros and cons of pvc and clear sealant. grin Ffs

I have emailed my job application . Not discussing it unless I get an interview. Gawd the guff I wrote is making me blush. Also declined to put my Dob on the CV for the first time ever. No to crepey

MrsSchadenfreude Sun 16-Feb-14 19:27:47

Good luck with your job app Crem. And fingers crossed for an interview.

DH went to see the woman downstairs about our upstairs neighbour. She has a SS contact for him, and will call them on Monday. She also told DH that the man's wife left him (she is a lot younger than him and this is all quite recent) because she found out that he tried to kill his first wife. confused shock

Had DBIL and his other half to stay for the weekend, which was nice. It was DBIL's birthday, and DH splashed out a bit on his present. DBIL asked me what I got for my birthday from DH. Err, nothing. DH said rather defensively "But I took you out to dinner." Well he took DBIL and all of us out to dinner last night for his birthday too!

motherinferior Sun 16-Feb-14 21:41:48

Kind though your DH is towards the man upstairs I feel he is deeply lacking in the birthday gift department...

Mr Inferior has improved dramatically thanks to serious tantrums on my part since year 1, when all I got was a bottle of champagne and a positive pregnancy testgringrin

Blackduck Sun 16-Feb-14 21:56:49

So the bottle of champagne had to be put on ice MI??? smile

But yes MrsS MI is right - DH is a bit p, well, crap on the birthday pressie front?

Here we have introduced niece to curry (only a korma) having done bento yesterday. I am a bit shock that she's never had a curry!? But she's a fab girl and my sil has done a fab job smile

motherinferior Sun 16-Feb-14 21:59:43

I drank it (well, we split it) before the test, BD. Was in Major Denialgrin

In S&B news I lost patience with digging-in wires yesterday and ordered two new bras from Figleaves (there is an offer). I shall perk again.

Blackduck Sun 16-Feb-14 22:06:01

MI smile

Lego movie, shopping and lunch tomorrow..... Then back to work and dp takes over....

CointreauVersial Sun 16-Feb-14 23:50:26

BD - in a similar vein, DS had his first kebab a few days ago. grin

DH said it was a true "rite of passage" even though he wimped out of the chilli sauce. He waded manfully through it, but said he wasn't in a huge hurry to have another.

Blackduck Mon 17-Feb-14 08:00:40

CV smile
Niece said we should tell her dad or he'd be shoving the stuff down her throat at every opportunity! It's her mum that doesn't eat them.

NUFC69 Mon 17-Feb-14 13:27:54

Another non curry eating person here. I can never understand why, as individually I like all the spices. I think that, possibly, if I ate an authentic home made one I might like it; as it is the smell really turns me off and I can't face a restaurant. I am trying to ease myself in gradually and try food with small amounts of curry.

I am sat waiting for my 20 odd guests to arrive for a talk on Nelson's best friend (I assume that is not a euphemism in view of what I know of Nelson! ).

motherinferior Mon 17-Feb-14 15:14:48

My report is back to be re-edited...

beachyhead Mon 17-Feb-14 15:56:49

Who was Nelson's best friend?

motherinferior Mon 17-Feb-14 16:03:53


Is it a bit like a Friend of Dorothy? Love that expression, I do.

Stropperella Mon 17-Feb-14 17:36:14

My guess (aided and abetted by Google, natch) is Cuthbert Collingwood.

I'm not hugely keen on curry either (sorry, curry lovers).

Stropperella Mon 17-Feb-14 17:52:12

Stropp's Monday trivia spot: Nelson's Thomas Masterman Hardy was probably distantly related to TH the writer. They both came from the same area. I can see the monument to Nelson's Hardy from my office window.

NUFC69 Mon 17-Feb-14 18:26:12

Talk all over and house restored to normality (unfortunately there are naice biscuits left over). So, Nelson's best friend was Alexander Davison. His story is interesting; basically the son of a farmer from Northumberland who made good, he seemed to spend most of his life bailing out Nelson and Lady Hamilton. It's totally changed my view of Nelson who actually seemed to be an idiot (apart from saving the country that is! grin )

How are you, Mrs S? I hope all is going well for you.

DH's birthday tomorrow so we're going for an Italian in the evening. DGS and I will be making a cake in the morning.