RANT-Where have all the natural fabric made clothes gone !!!

(115 Posts)
bawabod Tue 28-Jan-14 16:01:21

Right on the basis of a few recent threads regarding quality of clothing and the amount of awful polyester viscose and other man made fabrics, lets discuss who is good at supplying clothes made with natural fabrics I am not adverse to cotton with a bit of elastane or is it lycra, god knows it can keep the blobby parts in check, but I am thoroughly fed-up with the amount of clothes lined in polyester and suchlike or made with it. It brings me out in a cold sweat, am old enough to remember crimplene trousers as a child but consider myself a trendy fortyish lady now. So I will start with who I think is good at such clothes Fat Face, Gap some East stuff and welcome ideas of other places to shop.smile

chanie44 Tue 28-Jan-14 16:12:40

Good cotton basics from gap, uniqlo and h&m

I was looking on the warehouse website and saw some lovely tops, but they were all polyester.

lookdeepintotheparka Tue 28-Jan-14 16:15:39

Great - glad thread started about this smile

I buy nearly all my clothes in sales but GAP, Fat Face and White Stuff are usually my shops of choice. I buy mostly basics and always check the fabrics now after buying a few t shirts that turned out not to be 100% cotton after all <grr>

Watching with interest for other retailers not trying to pull the wool over our eyes (as it were grin) charging silly prices for cheap fabrics.

SwedishEdith Tue 28-Jan-14 16:24:19

I think the dreaded Next do cotton basics. I have turned into my mother on this issue though - always checking the labels and tutting at cheap dyes.

I've never spotted anything non-polyester in Zara but assume it must do something nice as people rave about it so much

ElizabethBathory Tue 28-Jan-14 16:25:10

It's VERY annoying isn't it - I sometimes wonder whether retailers are expecting us not to notice! Fair enough, if you want very cheap clothes there's a risk they might be polyester, but there are more and more jumpers and dresses costing £40+, which is ridiculous.

Agree Uniqlo, Gap and H&M are good (though the latter two often have plenty of polyester rubbish alongside the wool and cotton). I recently bought a load of basics from H&M in cotton and viscose and am so impressed with the quality for the price.

Boden, Hush, Me & Em etc have plenty of great fabrics.

Btw...I've said this before but...Viscose is a nice fabric made of natural materials (wood cellulose) and not in any way similar to polyester. So don't despair if the label says viscose!

bunnymother Tue 28-Jan-14 16:31:13

Viscose may be "natural" but it creases and bobbles badly, so might be better in a blend rather than being the sole fibre used.

I add Banana Republic, Massimo Dutti and Cos to your list of places where you can find natural fibres.

burnishedsilver Tue 28-Jan-14 16:49:54

Primark and H&M are great for cotton vests and tees.

HelloBoys Tue 28-Jan-14 17:33:34

No idea. I'd pay more for premium fabrics.

A few years ago Gap etc did nice silk tops (poor silk worms??) and a lot was cotton etc - now manmade heaven.

LittleBabyPigsus Tue 28-Jan-14 18:20:48

Sainsburys fairtrade cotton basics are really nice, very soft. Otherwise, sadly most plus size clothing is polyester tents sad

florencedombey Tue 28-Jan-14 18:27:06

Hobbs used to be good for this but has gone downhill (see my other thread). Jigsaw still pretty good.

If you have a Ralph Lauren outlet store near you(eg Cheshire Oaks), their T shirts are made from excellent heavy cotton. They wash and wash without losing their shape or shrinking.

Seasalt is good for cotton jersey too.

White Stuff used to be good - I have some lovely silk mix skirts from about 5 years ago - but the quality has gone downhill recently. The fabrics are now very thin and shapeless.

Apatite1 Tue 28-Jan-14 18:28:11

Toast has great fabrics, but you have to choose pieces carefully to avoid looking like a heroin addicted exchange student on a Scandinavian llama farm.

florencedombey Tue 28-Jan-14 18:31:54


I just wish people would stop putting 10% wool in perfectly nice cotton or acrylic jumpers and adding £10 to the price.

I'm allergic to lambs wool, if the jumper was cheaper I might risk low wool mixes, but not for £40-50

Belindaearl2 Tue 28-Jan-14 19:37:37

Cos have silks, cottons & merino wool knits.

Marylou2 Tue 28-Jan-14 20:00:08

Boden, Uniqlo, Cos all good for cottons

Orangeanddemons Tue 28-Jan-14 20:08:06

Viscose has millions of horrid chemicals added to it, and it is the weakest of all the fibres. It makes me sweaty, and I'm allergic to it. It is we one to polyester in my list of evil fibres. I teach Textile science and it is classed as a man made fibre (well regenerated is the correct term ) but is still classified as man made. And the stuff they add to it is vile..

I too am sick of the polyester hell on the High Street. I've given up on most of them. fat face and White stuff manage, so the rest should be able to do it. Unfortunately I don't like the styling of those 2 brands, but if they can do natural fibres so should the likes of Zara and others.

What gets me is the shocking price places charge for what is essentially a piece of plastic.

CatAmongThePigeons Tue 28-Jan-14 20:14:08

J Crew has some lovely natural fabrics. Only in the sales (plus % discount) makes it financially viable.

Financeprincess Tue 28-Jan-14 20:28:03

Yes, J Crew are not bad. You pay for it though!

I was just scrolling through a fancy clobber website from which I have been known to buy stuff in the past. Get this:

McQ (Alexander McQueen diffusion line) jacket. The style is lovely. £250 in the sale, reduced from £500. Fabric composition: polyester, acrylic and a derisory amount of wool (< 10%).

T by Alexander Wang jersey dress. Nice styling, but basically a long t shirt. Fabric: polyester. Price: £200. Surely you can churn out a bit of cotton jersey for 200 quid!!!

Helmet Lang cardigan. £125, reduced from £200. Fabric: 70% acrylic.

Surely, surely, they are having a laugh?

bunnymother Tue 28-Jan-14 20:34:55

No they are not having a laugh. I have been told my sales assistants in Reiss that their polyester is lovely quality, thank you. grin

I smiled and edged away.

bunnymother Tue 28-Jan-14 20:35:11

Told by not told my.

Marking place. Wrap London, Celtic & Co, Seasalt lots of natural fibres.

Orangeanddemons Tue 28-Jan-14 20:45:02

Sometimes there are reasons for using am made fibres though. That Alexander wang one, did it have a print on it?

The Alexander McQueen one I would like to see. Was it a tailored type structured jacket?

bunnymother Tue 28-Jan-14 20:45:03

I would actually welcome a fashion buyer coming on here and explaining the merits of these man made fibre items. Am I missing something or is it just stealth cost cutting??

bunnymother Tue 28-Jan-14 20:45:25

Cross post!

bunnymother Tue 28-Jan-14 20:46:36

But presumably such structured tailoring has and is done with natural fibres? If men's suits can be beautifully cut and tailored, using wool, why can't women's clothes?

Orangeanddemons Tue 28-Jan-14 20:47:42

I could do that. I used to be a designer, and have to know how all the fibres behave. Post me pictures and I will judge accordingly grin

<hops up and down with excitement>

Orangeanddemons Tue 28-Jan-14 20:49:36

Exactly Bunny! Wool responds to heat and steam, so can be moulded into shape making it ideal for tailoring. Anything else just doesn't cut the mustard really. That McQ jacket should be ashamed of itself

Financeprincess Tue 28-Jan-14 20:52:55

The Alexander Wang frock is just plain grey. I'd post a link if I weren't inept/on an ipad.

The McQ jacket is military style, very structured, a bit 18th century looking. Crying out to be made of wool with a small amount of stretch fibre. Just as Bunny says!

The website is Jules B if you want to examine the evidence!

Saurus72 Tue 28-Jan-14 20:55:37

The problem is, that IME, decent shops (Hobbs, Jaeger, Whistles) randomly use both man made and natural fabrics.

I have some gorgeous silk tops from Hobbs and Whistles, and fabulous silk dresses from Jaeger and Hobbs. But that's because I've snuffled them out, truffle-hunter style, from amongst piles of other clothes in the same shops made from disgusting polyester. There seems to be no rhyme or reason as to when man-made fabrics are used, or the prices charged. Even though I still wouldn't buy them, if the clothes made from man-made fabrics were significantly cheaper then I could kind of see why they were being offered. However, this is entirely not the case - there was a beautiful navy top with lace shoulders in Whistles recently, but it was £79 for God's sake! It looked fabulous but felt disgusting - hot and sweaty and thick and static-ey.

Massimo Dutti is pretty good across the board for decent fabrics, and there are lots of natural fabrics in Cos, Other Stories and Jigsaw.

Viva la revolution - natural fabrics are a complete obsession of mine!

bunnymother Tue 28-Jan-14 20:57:12

It's a betrayal of Lee's training (didn't McQueen train as a Savile Row tailor?)! [gets carried away after only one glass of wine]

Saurus72 Tue 28-Jan-14 21:02:09

Oh and also, the number of scarves that I've looked at in shops that look gorgeous but when I pick them up I find that they are made of polyester. Oooh, yes please, sign me up - let me drape a sweaty piece of horrible polyester around my neck, that won't be clammy and disgusting at all.

Orangeanddemons Tue 28-Jan-14 21:02:19

Have looked at those items. Can find no reason at all that they are made from shitty fibres. None.

The only possible thing I can think of with the jacket, is that it is a jersey fabric, and polyester would hold its shape slightly better than wool for this ( think of the hell that is ponte) so I can see a little bit where that is coming from. But the Wang thing has no excuse at all

BikeRunSki Tue 28-Jan-14 21:03:08

Lands End, good cotton, wool, cashmere basics

bunnymother Tue 28-Jan-14 21:03:09

You are totally right, Saurus - you do need to hunt down the poly from the wool. I was looking at Whistles new season stock, and apart from the stretch silk dress, and about 1 silk shirt and 1 style of slim trousers, the rest were synthetic. No clue from the pricing, it just took lots of clicking on the website to work it out. Ditto Hobbs, some nice wool suiting, but time consuming to separate it from the poly.

How about LK Bennett? They still seem to do some beautiful quality things?

bunnymother Tue 28-Jan-14 21:05:38

And for scarves, God, it's rare to find ones that are silk, cotton, wool or cashmere. So much modal and viscose, at the spendy end, and polyester at the cheaper end.

I wandered into a boutique the other day and saw some silk/wool and also cashmere scarves from this indy brand. I am loving the dark floral romantic cashmere scarf: www.frontrowsociety.com/boutique/

Oneglassandpuzzled Tue 28-Jan-14 21:06:48

Agree entirely with the sentiments here! And would like to moan about wool-mix coats with polyester linings. Not very warm at all.

Saurus72 Tue 28-Jan-14 21:11:08

bunnymother I like The White Company for wool scarves, if you find a design you like. I have a lot, in various weights, each one £30-£50, often bought in outlet stores. The other fabulous thing that I discovered by accident is that these pure wool scarves can be dried in the tumble dryer; they turn out brilliantly, and also don't need ironing.

Orangeanddemons Tue 28-Jan-14 21:11:39

Aaah, but you have to have a slippy lining in a coat to get it on and off easily. A silk lining would be ruinously expensive and very delicate. A lining is where polyester should be used, as it very slippery and smooth. Can't say much for a polyester/wool mix coat <sniffs> though. Polyester has no warmth at all

AdventColander Tue 28-Jan-14 21:11:48

TKMaxx have nice woollen jumpers & cardigans & cotton tops.
Agree there is too much polyester etc. the only good thing about it is it doesn't need ironing.

bunnymother Tue 28-Jan-14 21:24:17

Polyester lining or acetate?

Orangeanddemons Tue 28-Jan-14 21:30:48

But acetate isn't brilliant for lining either. It's quite weak, and linings get a lot of hammer

ElizabethBathory Tue 28-Jan-14 21:30:57

Only just come back to this - love the description of Toast upthread grin Viscose does crease but no worse than cotton IME - I have a couple of lovely viscose dresses which are really heavy and hang beautifully. Haven't noticed any bobbling or sweating! But agree wool and cotton by far the best.

bunnymother Tue 28-Jan-14 21:38:49

Some of DH's suits have linings that have snagged and torn, pulled at the seams etc. I wonder if they were acetate? He does have a suit that is lined with some old Japanese printed cotton that seems coated, and that's been quite hardy.

Panzee Tue 28-Jan-14 21:41:38

Presumably still a global cotton shortage.

Saurus72 Tue 28-Jan-14 21:48:55

Is there really a global cotton shortage? But what about silk/wool? Presumably there is a polyester mountain then?

WildThong Tue 28-Jan-14 21:49:04

Lovely cashmere/silk mix pashminas and scarves on this site. Use code NEWPASH to get a pashmina for £30.
I like tkmaxx for silk and cotton tops.

Orangeanddemons Tue 28-Jan-14 21:54:53

There may be a cotton shortage, but some places are managing to produce items in it, at a fairish cost.

I just think retailers think their average buyer is clueless about the whole thing and are just trying to see what they can get away with.

Polyester is as cheap as shit to produce, and the price can never be justified. The only that could make this special polyester that the retailers try to fob you off with is a higher thread count, or a special finish

SwedishEdith Tue 28-Jan-14 22:05:09

Viscose is weird though; seems to shrink and only returns to its original size when it's ironed shock. The steam seems to loosen up and soften the fibres again.

WildThong Tue 28-Jan-14 22:10:43

How do you pronounce viscose? I know someone, tends to be pretentious, says "vaicos" I thought it was visscoss?

SwedishEdith Tue 28-Jan-14 22:22:41

I say viss cose. "Vaicos"?? How?

WildThong Tue 28-Jan-14 22:25:38

My thought exactly grin

sleepdodger Tue 28-Jan-14 22:27:28

Cotton is often no more expensive but often doesn't take print well or drapes poorly

GreenRedBlueYellowPurple Tue 28-Jan-14 22:51:39

LK Bennett is not fantastic fibres I don't think. I think they're all lined with viscose or something.

I have an Oasis dress which is linen lined with cotton.

GreenRedBlueYellowPurple Tue 28-Jan-14 22:53:21

Bunny your DH sounds very sophisticated! ;-)

LittleBabyPigsus Tue 28-Jan-14 23:49:00

Swedish I imagine 'vaicos' comes from it looking like viscount which is pronounced 'vaicount'.

Notgoingtotakeitanymore Wed 29-Jan-14 07:38:53

Poetry has nice linen cotton etc but not height of fashion. Winser london some terrible manmade skirt fabric- scratchy and see through and £££. Other stuff looks ok silk shirrs etc but not seen Irl.

Orangeanddemons Wed 29-Jan-14 07:43:52

Can I be boring about why viscose gets bigger when ironed? grin.

Is structure is similar to cotton. The polymer chains are joined by little cross links. When you wash it, these get broken. Heat and steam repair them. Viscose is very weak due to ls of broken polymer chains. That's why it creases so easily.

Cotton takes colour extremely well, all the natural fibres do, so the fact that it doesn't take colour is not an excuse for using polyester. All the plastic based fibres are the most difficult to dye, but they still use loads of them..

Sorry for being boring...

FrugalFashionista Wed 29-Jan-14 08:07:04

Loving this thread. I deeply dislike most synthetics and viscose (although a small amount of polyester can be practical in some clothes). The shops will stop offering cheap nasty synthetics only when we stop buying them.

They invested heavily in large scale polyester production in China and we are reaping the results now. Polyester is plastic, so when you are wearing it, you are basically wearing a plastic bag.

You can still get excellent fibers (in love with my alpaca/wool sweater) but you have to be a smart shopper, be prepared to pay more, look out for niche stuff and shop by hand feel.

ercolercol Wed 29-Jan-14 08:27:01

I agree re natural fibres but find thick viscose tops really good in the way they hang, very flattering if you have big norks.

the only plus for polyester is no ironing if you are lazzzzzzzy like me.

Ebay - I have just purchased four different sonia ryikel cashmere / wool jumpers from £10 - £40 and they are beautiful. Dry clean only tho (bah!)

Panzee Wed 29-Jan-14 08:34:43

I keep saying "vaicos" in my best pretentious voice. grin

Aquelven Wed 29-Jan-14 09:04:36

Don't believe all the dry clean only labels on knitted cashmere or wool. They respond better to being gently washed in lukewarm water & a suitable liquid, like Woolite, than being bombarded with dry cleaning chemicals. Farmers don't dry clean sheep or goats! I've got cashmere & wool jumpers years old, many with dry clean only labels, that have been washed & washed & still look like new.

You despair of fabrics in most shops these days. It wasn't always like this. I still have lots of classic clothes that I'm reluctant to part with as they're wool, cotton or silk & were high street not expensive designer.

ElizabethBathory Wed 29-Jan-14 09:22:41

I ignore all dry clean only labels unless it's a wool coat or something big like a bridesmaids dress.

Never heard 'vaicos'!!

Bonsoir Wed 29-Jan-14 10:19:29

I'm very fussy about natural fibres and definitely resist buying synthetics. I bought some gorgeous all wool Italian sweaters in the sales recently and I look out for all cotton shirts etc.

I don't know what I'd do without lycra in my tights and underwear, though!

Deathwatchbeetle Wed 29-Jan-14 10:34:37

I am glad it is not only me that loathes viscose. It makes me sweat.

I have to check carefully on the labels. If I have forgotten to do so, I then get sweat at the back of my neck and my back. Torrents! Not good. I keep looking at Boden stuff but it is either too short or viscose heavy,

Snowdown Wed 29-Jan-14 10:35:32

You all say synthetics are horrible and sweaty but cotton is a horrible fabric to run in, you sweat it stays wet and sticks to you but the synthetics I wear wick moisture away from the skin and are much more comfortable to wear - why is that?

Orangeanddemons Wed 29-Jan-14 11:11:27

But that's because those items are engineered to do this. Running items tend to be made from modern or smart materials. Fashion stuff on the high street doesn't have this engineering, it's just bog standard plastic

alemci Wed 29-Jan-14 11:22:22

I totally agree Bawabod. I try to buy natural fabrics as much as I can and I agree Viscose makes you sweaty. I do have some tops in this fabric.

Also the quality of the cotton is so thin these days and then they go into holes etc half the time.

FuckingWankwings Wed 29-Jan-14 11:25:27

This drives me UP THE WALL! I don't mind if cheap shops use man-made fabrics, but places like Whistles, Reiss and Jigsaw asking £100 upwards for jumpers and dresses that are basically plastic is just taking the piss.

I just wait until the sales, and look at cheaper places very carefully to find the more decent fabrics.

I really struggle in man made fibres, peri-menopausal and my body temp fluctuates. Can I add to the list, Celtic & Co, Wrap London and East. Wrap is sister company to Poetry, more trendy. Lots of linen, cotton, hemp. I'm not trendy, I just don't want to sweat in plastic!

Corygal Wed 29-Jan-14 14:44:23

Love this thread.

Funnily enough as they are so cheap, ASOS do a lot of cotton jersey Ts and dresses. I've had good quality, reliable stuff from them at fine prices.

Does anyone know what the deal is with 'luxury jersey' eg fabric that contains modal? Why is it more expensive, and what makes it nicer?

Orangeanddemons Wed 29-Jan-14 14:53:26

Ha ha, modal is just another form of viscose, usually made from beech rather than pine. It has a good drape like viscose only slightly better. What gets me is M and S advertise their,stuff as pure modalhmm, like it's some luxury fabric. Big wow!

Levantine Wed 29-Jan-14 15:12:54

&otherstories seems to use pure wool, I got some lovely things in the sale

lurkingaround Wed 29-Jan-14 15:45:26

What gets me is polyester sleepwear. Who would buy that! Sleeping in a plastic bag. Yeauch. Primark used to be ok for 100% cotton pjs but I notice more and more polyester creeping in. M&S and the other usual suspects are much the same.
Even the DC are fabric snobs blush when it comes to pjs/nighties. And did you know it is nigh on impossible to buy cotton nighties for kids, something to do with fire regulations. So they'e all made of polyester. Sleeping in a plastic bag.

Zoidberg Wed 29-Jan-14 16:16:48

I was just raging about this the other day, much harder to find natural fibres indeed. I've bought a lot more in charity shops in the last year as had more luck finding pure wool jumpers. Howies do some nice stuff, am wearing a coral coloured merino base layer as a nice thin jumper atm.

Same prob with girls' nighties here, got dd a secondhand cath kidston and a White Company one.

bunnymother Wed 29-Jan-14 16:34:59

I just thought of another brand where you can find some natural fibres: Pure Collection.

Financeprincess Wed 29-Jan-14 17:05:44

Oh don't get me started on plastic pyjamas!

I was given some for Christmas, from Next. Pure polyester. I just couldn't sleep in that stuff. Thank heavens the giver included a gift receipt. I went to Next, expecting to be able to swap them easily for cotton pyjamas, or even a nightdress...

...and they had none. None. There was one pair of pyjamas in the directory, not in store, that was made of cotton. One! Everything else was made of nasty synthetic fibres.

bawabod Wed 29-Jan-14 17:49:31

Ladies wow I am thrilled at the response to this rant, maybe pester power might make retailers starting realising we are not blind to the increasing use of synthetic fibres while prices keep going up WE KNOW OUR STUFF SO START TAKING NOTICE US and this is from a premenopausal lady who is not going to sweat in all that C--p. Well that's out of my system but I am going to keep ranting smile

FrugalFashionista Wed 29-Jan-14 17:57:05

I think they are noticing already. See by Chloe was a synth hell a few seasons ago and everything seemed to land in the bargain bin - now I spotted them doing a lovely poppy red pure cotton dress... I've found more cotton-poly mixes at H&M, a while back they seemed to do viscose-poly. And the awful sheer t shirt trend seems to be going away.

When you are in shops, give the checkout people verbal feedback. Some of them (Zara for example) are trained to take customer feedback seriously. I've often told the SAs that I'm buying a specific item because I like the material.

Poly nightwear - urgh!

FrugalFashionista Wed 29-Jan-14 18:00:39

Oh, and modal and lyocell and bamboo are nicer and more pricey variants of viscose/cellulose fiber. I loathe viscose but have a modal dress that is rather nice and a lyocell blouse that does not crease and bamboo sportswear that is soft and lovely.

RockMummy Wed 29-Jan-14 18:04:41

All wool itches like hell and brings me up in hives so No More please! I spent my childhood in hell over this every winter so I would rather buy clothes more frequently if they don't last and at least be comfortable!

SwedishEdith Wed 29-Jan-14 18:19:51

Oh, thank you Orange for the vaicos ironing explanation. Makes sense. And I agree that it does make you sweat.

I'm not sure I should admit this on this thread, but I do own two Gap polyester ponte dresses [blushes] They are worn only for work but are so easy to use. I'll go

WildThong Wed 29-Jan-14 18:29:15

Great thread! Im trying to not buy vaicos/ polyester etc but it's so difficult. I thought modal was something posh too blush

So what is ponte jersey compared to normal jersey?

Orangeanddemons Wed 29-Jan-14 18:40:58

Ponte is the modern equivalent of crimpelene grin. It is a very thick heavy polyester jersey fabric with elastene. However, a lot of silhouettes at the moment are very sculptural or 60s influenced. These are usually the things that are made out of ponte, as they hold the shape. But they could be made out of very heavy cotton jersey, but that would be very very expensive.

All nightwear in the Uk is covered by safety laws, particularly nighties. If a cotton nightie exists it should have a flame proof finish onit, or else it is breaking the law. Hence the reason for no cotton nighties for little girls. If they do exist they will be very expensive because of the finish. Cotton burns like mad, it can group in a minute.

Orangeanddemons Wed 29-Jan-14 18:44:00

I think the ponte thing means it is knitted in some new and random way. The knitting is very tight and it is a double knit which makes it so heavy. Could still be done in cotton though

hugoagogo Wed 29-Jan-14 18:53:45

The cotton nightie thing is a hangover from when most people had real fires/candles at home. Many children were killed by their flannel nighties catching fire. sad

Not really so much of an issue now I suppose; like oranges says you can get cotton nighties but they are more expensive as they are treated with flame retardant stuff. Places like white co and cath kidston usually have some.

SwedishEdith Wed 29-Jan-14 19:30:20

I imagine you'd have to iron a cotton ponte dress though.

orangepudding Wed 29-Jan-14 19:42:12

Www.outsiderfashion.com sell clothes made from natural fibres. They are expensive!

Orangeanddemons Wed 29-Jan-14 20:36:21

Ooh that websites nice. Am itching to buy some stuff from there.

Surprisingly enough, Primark often have 100% cotton things in, you just have to look for them. It's usually t-shirts and vests that they have in 100% cotton but when you find them, they are decent quality and last long enough to be worth buying. I bought ten different coloured cotton vests last summer in there and they still look new now despite constant wear and washing

Parliamo Wed 29-Jan-14 20:53:03

I thought it was just me obsessed with what my clothes are made of! I shop by touch first, then I look properly, then I inspect the label to tripe check it's not nasty plastic tat. And it goes all static. Electric shocks from your clothes, and sweat patches. Nice.

Laura Ashley usually has something if you really hunt, especially summer stuff.

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bunnymother Sat 01-Feb-14 16:59:54

Parliamo - I also scrunch clothes when shopping to see how they crease. I have become my mother.

JellicleCat Sat 01-Feb-14 18:29:57

Loving this thread. I was beginning to think I was the only person who hated man-made fibres. I don't like viscose, it creases and tops seem to lose their shape very quickly. My personal bugbear is acrylic jumpers. Nasty horrible things.

I am one of the ones checking labels in shops to check what things are made of.

Dorisdolalee Sat 01-Feb-14 18:43:23

I'm Also always checking labels.
Why do people say acrylic washes better than wool?! Bollocks. It goes crispy and is not at all effective at keeping you warm as wool. My daughter is always being given acrylic stuff & I refuse to put her in it. I recently spent the day looking for a pure lambs wool cardie for her and ended up with a cashmere cardi from gap. As everywhere only had wool mix for kids: Zara, H&M, Benetton, John lewis, next ... Nothing.

alemci Sat 01-Feb-14 21:04:19

also the man made fibres hold sweat smells even when washed more so tyan natural fibres I think.

bunnymother Sun 02-Feb-14 07:31:11

Crispy knits are nasty. Wool is far nicer!! My DDs prefer cashmere, too, as it's not itchy for them and is so snugly. Sighing at the cost, though.

Pinickins Sun 02-Feb-14 08:37:25

Completely agree with you all. The surge of polyester on the high street is an absolute disgrace. It's amazing how much polyester is in some jeans these days (M&S 5 pocket are nearly 40% polyester!)

(Loving the Outsider site that someone linked to above.)

MarshaBrady Sun 02-Feb-14 08:39:06

It is hard to find. I suppose that's why if I have say £40 to £60 to spend I'll go to the outnet or sales and spend it there rather than high st.

I don't mind so much about when I have something, but prefer it to be natural fibre - cotton, cashmere.

PiratePanda Sun 02-Feb-14 09:01:47

The problem is not confined to man-made fibres unfortunately. Don't get me started on cheap short-fibre cashmere. I have a 10-year-old M&S pure cashmere cardigan that has never pilled (the odd one I suppose). The style is a bit out of fashion now though.

So I bought another one. It pilled horribly within a couple of wears, and unless I waste hours with a wool comb after every wear it's basically unwearable.

So I asked for suggestions for good quality cashmere on here and was recommended Woolovers. Ha! I am bitterly disappointed with the cashmere-merino mix cardigans I bought. They pilled horribly within ONE wear and now liok shabby and vile, only fit for the garden.

Can't find a plain 100% merino cardi for love nor money.

<wails> nothing is as good as it used to be!

I'm just going to have to buy Brora or John Smedley, aren't I...

bunnymother Sun 02-Feb-14 09:14:25

My Gap and Uniqlo merino have been great. Lambs wool, no, merino, yes.

Specialbrew Sun 02-Feb-14 09:26:10

I like Uniqlo for some bits, tkmaxx for cotton and silk, jack wills for jumpers, gap for cotton shirts, Vince and James Perse for t-shirts. I buy work trousers from Joseph or Stella McCartney (only in the sales!), which are made from a fine wool.

I never go into Zara, as I like some of you am an obsessive label checker, and looking for natural fibers is like looking for a needle in a hay stack.

I broke my own rule recently though, I really wanted a wool peacoat, but the only one that I liked was a 30% wool one from Uniqlo. After the first wear it bobbled like mad and after a month, it looked scruffy and was unwearable. I bought a Hobbs wool one in the sales which is 100 times better.

Agree with others that polyester seems to be taking over the world, I went to Jaeger in the sales to look for work dresses and I was amazed that they sold so much polyester and charge so much for it, ditto Reiss and Whistles

I do think though that for me, as so many clothes are made of polyester I buy much less. Seeing a label saying 100% polyester means I walk away

FairPhyllis Sun 02-Feb-14 09:30:50

The thing that irritates me most is the disappearance of wool from jumpers. A cotton jumper does not cut it for keeping me warm.

I got a wool jumper from Jaeger in the sale, and I think that's how it's going to have to be from now on - ferreting out wool items in the sales.

bunnymother Sun 02-Feb-14 09:35:34

According to the sales staff at Jo Jo Maman Bebe, cotton (the only cardis they had) does keep you as warm as wool, even when wet, because it breathes. Suuure, whatever you say hmm

FairPhyllis Sun 02-Feb-14 11:23:17

God almighty. Cotton as warm as wool. Riiiiight. Why the flip do they think people insulate their homes with wool then and not cotton?

Saying that cotton keeps you warm when wet like wool is actually bloody dangerous, pig ignorant advice too.

I am actually genuinely distressed about this sort of thing. How come we are losing what used to be basic knowledge?

bunnymother Sun 02-Feb-14 11:36:38

To be honest, I'm not sure all sales assistants have ever had great knowledge about such things. Some probably did, but others wouldn't. I imagine it depends on the training the brand / shop provides.

I didn't care enough to argue it out, but I'm pretty sure my facial expressions were saying "you are wrong wrong wrong".

alemci Sun 02-Feb-14 12:02:38

also the actual 'wool' is such poor quality and bobbles even if you move your arm and before you even wash it.

peppapigiscomingtotea Sun 02-Feb-14 12:09:22

piratepanda- you might be able to pick up something on the John Smedley outlet section. They have been selling their merino wool jumpers for v reasonable prices recently.

East do Merino cardigans. Don't know if they're 100% though. White Company used to, think they've shifted to more blends now. Agree about Woolovers cashmere merino but their lambs wool is a lot better. Cambridge baby do lots of wool for kids btw but ££, I still haven't found a proper wool cardigan for dd this winter that I can afford and like.

UnicornsNotRiddenByGrownUps Sun 02-Feb-14 13:56:58

Sorry don't have time to read the whole thread so please excuse me if this is a repeat but try people tree. Fair trade cotton and feels lovely.

Orangeanddemons Mon 03-Feb-14 18:11:07

Wool keeps you warm because the fibres are crimped. Cotton does not have this property the fibres of cotton are twisty.

So wool keeps you warm because air is trapped between the crimping. Cotton cant do this., so Cotton is not as warm as wool, whatever Jojo says

But wool brings me out in a rash and cotton doesn't, so I'm getting really pissed off with put a bit of wool in a jumper to church £10 more and make it possibly unwearable for me and definitely unwearable for DD1


Orangeanddemons Tue 04-Feb-14 17:53:40

I'm allergic too. I'm not allergic to cashmere, so I wear that. You'd be better of with a silk jumper than a cotton one, as silk is warm

Sadly my budget and laundry system don't stretch to cashmere and silk.

TulipOHare Wed 05-Feb-14 00:09:48

Starball I recently bought this jumper, it is 50% silk and 50% cotton and is £14. Is very nice smile

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