Sodium Laureth Sulfate

(47 Posts)
sarahlowe2 Mon 27-Jan-14 11:19:23

Hello,

Just curious to know how many people find the ingredient Sodium Laureth Sulfate (SLES) irritating and drying to their skin? I find Radox particularly drying even though it is supposedly chock full of natural fragrances and extracts. Has anyone tried the Sanex 'Zero %' ranges and are they irritating? Have included an image of the sort I mean.

Sarah

Deathwatchbeetle Mon 27-Jan-14 12:39:54

I try and avoid that ingredient although my skin does not exactly react to it. I just prefer to avoid it and it is in most things, damn it. Funnily enough I saw this in Waitrose this morning and nearly bought it. I actually like the Sanex range anyway.

Suddengeekgirl Mon 27-Jan-14 12:48:48

Have you looked at the ingredients?

Because according to sanex website it does have SLS in it
Googling also brought up something about a misleading advert for it too! hmm

I can't use SLS stuff as my skin gets dry and itchy and tight.
Try holland and barratt, boots Naked range or Bodyshop rainforest range. smile

sarahlowe2 Tue 28-Jan-14 09:44:28

Thanks for the information on the Sanex and ill add that to my list to avoid. I did email them about making a milder version using the gentler foaming agent but I await to hear from them. Everything is about profit with these companies isn't it. I have used Naked range but it never is in stock in my Boots.

FergusSingsTheBlues Tue 28-Jan-14 10:07:48

I can't use it. Even sanex puts my skin on fire....shea butter bar soap is the sort of thing you need, nothing that creates bubbles!

Me. I haven't found a soon product I like yet but I use Boots Botanics shampoo and it's fab. No more itchy scalp!

Fergus. Is that soap available in Boots?

FergusSingsTheBlues Tue 28-Jan-14 10:17:09

No, body shop. I've got terrible psoriasis and have to be super careful, and any shea butter bar soap would be v soothing.

LittleBabyPigsus Tue 28-Jan-14 10:28:03

Fergus try this, it's sulfate free and so moisturising. I get mine in my local Afro beauty shop, for some reason only the cocoa butter one is easily available online (Afro ebay shops) although that is still sulfate-free and nice, I just prefer the plainer scent of the shea one.

Yes To Carrots/Cucumbers shower gel is also SLS-free and comes in massive bottles. Waitrose stocks it, along with a few other SLS-free ranges like Organic Surge (their bergamot shower gel is nice). JASON is also good and v good value, you get loads (try the hand wash if you want a smaller amount, it's the same formula).

LakeFlyPie Tue 28-Jan-14 10:34:22

The Jason brand linked upthread is the only soapy / foamy product which doesn't break out DC's skin in dry, itchy patches.
I use a couple of squirts of the aloe shower gel in their bath and it foams up like bubble bath but doesn't cause skin irritation (the Sanex ones did)

WhereIsMyHat Tue 28-Jan-14 10:47:47

I actively avoid it. I use SLS free shampoo and conditioner (faith in nature) and toothpaste (aloe dent ). I have found that I no longer get mouth ulcers since removing SLS from my mouth cleaning routine.

Do you shop at ocado, they have loads of SLS free stuff.

ArtexMonkey Tue 28-Jan-14 10:58:57

I use dr bronner's liquid soap, it's not mega cheap but you dilute it half and half with water and it lasts for aaaages. The solid bars last ages as well.

For hair I use either sodium bicarb then apple cider vinegar rinse, or just wash with cone free conditioner then condition again a la curly girl. Have been doing this since last may. My hair was fucking wrecked, I looked like I was in Whitesnake or summat, proper 80s metaller frizz that NOTHING could touch. Now it's my best hair ever, even though I haven't been able to get a trim since September.

slug Tue 28-Jan-14 11:52:09
YoungBritishPissArtist Tue 28-Jan-14 12:05:25

Is there a difference between SLS and SLES?

SliceOfLime Tue 28-Jan-14 12:08:39

Following so I can find this thread later, also looking for gentle soap / showe gels.

LittleBabyPigsus Tue 28-Jan-14 12:09:35

Where I would never have thought to check toothpaste for SLS! Makes sense that it could cause ulcers.

FrugalFashionista Tue 28-Jan-14 13:21:29

SLS is a really powerful detergent, it's added to products to remove grease and oil from skin, hair and laundry. Great if you really want to get something squaky clean but not optimal with people with very dry skin.

I have avoided SLS /SLES because I just had perioral dermatitis and it has been implicated as a potential trigger. Finding really good sulphate free alternatives is not easy. Lots of products are being reformulated, I read labels very closely and see sodium coco-sulphate a lot too (more or less the same stuff than SLS).

Unfortunately many sulphate-free products compensate with oils that are even more problematic (cystic acne, lanky hair for me). After a week of really bad hair days I reverted back to my regular Wella shampoo - it has been reformulated and now has ammonium laureth sulphate as the main lathering ingredient instead of SLS. But I accidentally reached for an older bottle that still has SLS and have been using it for a couple of weeks, and my eczema hasn't returned. So I don't believe it's a trigger in my case.

NigellasDealer Tue 28-Jan-14 13:26:47

if you want something really lovely and mild there is nothing better than traditional olive oil soap from France or Greece, you can even wash your hair with it.
link

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen Tue 28-Jan-14 14:08:40

Sanex irritates me. I use Simple cream shower wash.

LittleBabyPigsus Tue 28-Jan-14 15:06:27

Y Frugal it depends on your skin/hair type totally. I tend towards dry skin/hair so the super moisturising stuff is great for me (the Palmers body wash which was like £3 in a local Afro shop has changed showering for me totally), but SLS isn't a problem for everyone.

Traditional olive oil soap like in Nigella's link is wonderful stuff though.

ArtexMonkey Tue 28-Jan-14 22:23:02

It's not necessarily a problem for everyone, but I think unless you are a miner or a fire fighter or a car mechanic or a seagull trapped in an oil spill or you wrestle in jelly for a living, there's no actual need to wash your hair and body with the same type of strong detergent that you wash your pots and pans with tbh. I wonder why it's so ubiquitous?

LittleBabyPigsus Tue 28-Jan-14 23:46:56

Cost I'd imagine.

specialsubject Wed 29-Jan-14 11:26:33

everything is about profit with all companies, business is done for money not fun.

your face needs nothing except water unless you are wearing slap, and if you have very sensitive skin you wouldn't do that.

your body does get sweaty and water alone may not keep you nice to be near. Bubbles are fun but if you react to them, do without.

sarahlowe2 Wed 29-Jan-14 12:35:02

Well i guess you are right down to cost and making as much money as possible. I use Simple face wash and that has no sls/sles, parabens or peg ingredients. It does have Propylene Glycol but i have no trouble with that ingredient. It is also suitable for Vegans!

Has anyone tried the castile soaps and found them any good?

ArtexMonkey Wed 29-Jan-14 12:39:48

I love dr bronner Castile soap, yes. I have the almond liquid and the tea tree solid bar. I dilute the liquid roughly half and half with water, it's fine, obviously runnier than normal shower gel, but you feel just as clean iyswim. The solid bars last ages.

spikeyiscool Wed 29-Jan-14 12:48:33

My dd is allergic to SLS. She gets terrible mouth ulcers and face rashes if she uses it. She uses the simple spotless range (not all of it - some has SLS in it), some of the Sensodyne range (again some has SLS in it), Dr Organic handwash and Daniel Galvin and Organix hair care. I've recently discovered that some superdrug own brand toothpaste also is SLS free which is good as it is about 1/2 of the price of Sensodyne.

Isthisme Wed 29-Jan-14 16:27:45

I suffer from dry skin and have recently changed to an organic bar soap (from tescos about £4 called something like the little soap company) and now use this in the shower instead, the results are great, no more flakey skin!

Bodicea Wed 29-Jan-14 16:40:26

I use trevarno calendula soap. Order in bulk on line every once in a while

squoosh Wed 29-Jan-14 16:51:54

Toothpastes that contain SLS fuck my lips up. Dries them out so much that they turn into a cracked, sore, peeling, mess.

clio51 Wed 29-Jan-14 16:59:42

I found that! Why would you want to put something in your mouth/face that they put in detergents!

LittleBabyPigsus Wed 29-Jan-14 17:18:22

Oliva olive oil soap is like £1 in Holland & Barrett and is lovely and moisturising.

whataboutbob Wed 29-Jan-14 17:47:10

I avoid SLS as I have eczema. And in shampoos, I believe it can build up in your scalp and make it itch. I have taken it a step further and now make my own soaps ( not that difficult) and it s true you can also wash your hair with the 100% olive oil one, with good results.

I avoid products containing SLS as they trigger my peri oral dermatitis and dry skin. Since I stopped using them and fluoride my skin has been much better. I get my products from holland and Barrett.

BeCool Wed 29-Jan-14 18:32:50

you could try not using any soap/shower gel etc?

I've not used body soap in over 10 years now. I realised I was in a cycle of scrubbing/washing natural oils off and then applying moisturisers. So I stopped.

I'm clean, my skin is fine & friends often comment how sort it is - it's not like I'm working down a mine. I'm a genuine soap dodger!
I don't use soap daily on my DC either - they will have a bubble bath once a week, otherwise it's just water baths.

Kundry Wed 29-Jan-14 18:52:51

I am positively evangelical about not using SLS after completely resolving my eczema when I stopped using it. Dermatologist told me to make sure all my soap was soap- and SLS-free and within a couple of weeks I'd come off all my steroids and moisturisers.

I'm a doctor (not derm or GP) but do see lots of patients with dry skin and I tell them the same thing, results are always a massive improvement. Same for patients with dry mouth when I get them to buy the special dry mouth toothpaste- again they are SLS free.

Products like Sanex and Dove make me very cross as they advertise as being 'sensitive' and 'moisturising' but still have SLS! You can have as much moisturising cream in a product as you like, but if you put SLS in as well it will dry your skin out. At least more mainstream products are being developed as 10 years ago anything SLS free was v expensive or only available in pharmacies. I don't want to buy fancy organic products, I just don't want SLS!

I am that freaky lady reading all the ingredients on the back of the packets in the supermarket grin

helloeverything Wed 29-Jan-14 19:35:42

I love Jason for shampoo and conditioner. Their body wash is nice too, not as nice as weleda body wash.
Ii'm avoiding SLS For mostly environmental reasons.

LittleBabyPigsus Wed 29-Jan-14 19:53:28

Jason also does toothpaste, and I think Dr Organic at H&B does too? Apparently you can also brush your teeth with peppermint Dr Bronners - but don't swallow it!

kateecass Wed 29-Jan-14 21:16:36

My DD can't have bubble bath for the same reason. I've been researching how to make my own. Also found out how to make my own washing powder but haven't managed to get all the ingredients yet.

There are several tutorials on Pinterest that show you how to make various things from Dr Bronner Castile soap including bubble bath, toothpaste, washing powder and household cleaner!!

You can make liquid Castile soap from a bar of the soap. Lots cheaper. I think most recipes just need glycerine to make it bubble bath.

Has anyone said it is actually olive oil soap? I tried to make bubble bath out of that green olive oil for my DD but it went gross! Will use Castile soap for my next attempt!

AndTwoBits Wed 29-Jan-14 22:14:07

Ive just ordered some olivia olive oil soap online to try on my face. Sick of my face feeling tight after i wash it.

LittleBabyPigsus Wed 29-Jan-14 23:43:00

kate Dr Bronners contains some olive oil I think, but is not 100& olive oil - pretty sure it's mostly hemp oil.

Just buy liquid olive oil soap if you want to use it for bubble bath.

LittleBabyPigsus Wed 29-Jan-14 23:43:15

^100% not 100&

clio51 Thu 30-Jan-14 00:44:07

Dove sensitive un scented is sls free.
Liz Earle shampoo is sls free
Sensodyne think it's mild mint is sls free

clio51 Thu 30-Jan-14 00:46:52

That's sensodyne pro enamel mint essence

FergusSingsTheBlues Thu 30-Jan-14 08:05:18

I never wash my face and only have a long hot shower about twice a week when I wash my hair....I obviously gave showers every day but only use soap on my arm pits.....it's crazy washing oil off dry skin.

My kids only get three baths a week, daily quick showers with minimum of soap as I'm sire they've got dry skin too.

sarahlowe2 Fri 31-Jan-14 15:15:42

Ill have to see what my local Holland & Barrett has on offer. I can use Tresemme 'Naturals' range of shampoos no problem. These are SLES free but use the Ammonium Lauryl/laureth sulfate foaming agents. Worth a try and no too expensive either.

FrugalFashionista Thu 06-Feb-14 08:13:18

Okay, I had completely recovered from a bout of perioral dermatitis over the past month by transitioning to soap and water as my main skincare routine.

I did the ultimate test last night - washed my face with a cream cleanser that I have used for the past 10+ years and that lists two SLS derivatives as its main ingredients after water. Before, my skin was nice and even with a fairly uniform tone. I woke up with a blotchy face, angry red in the moustache area and with some perioral type bumps starting in the corners of my mouth and above my lips. This is not definite proof that SLS is a trigger - the cream cleanser lists about 20 different ingredients shock and I seem to tolerate SLS in shampoo if I avoid getting it on my face - but I think this means that we should be more critical about what is marketed to us as skincare must-haves! Will revert back to homemade castile soap that only has ingredients that I can fully control (olive oil, lye, water, wheat bran). <sigh>

Suddengeekgirl Thu 06-Feb-14 08:20:48

Which cream cleanser did you use? confused

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