Having trouble working out my colours, anyone want to try?

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MarvellousMechanicalMouseOrgan Sun 26-Jan-14 12:19:00

Have been looking at the online questionnaires, but I'm struggling!

My hair is mousey (dyed a bit darker and redder at the moment), but hairdresser tells me it has warm tones. I'm not convinced, to me it looks very flat, but I guess they know better than me!
Eyes are greeny blue, with yellowy/white lines in the iris. In some lights my eyes look bright turquoise. I have a couple of goldy brown flecks.
Skin has pink tones, I think. At least I have rosey cheeks. I tan a golden colour, but burn first. Definitely not olivey.
Eyebrows are mousey and blonde, not red or dark.

Colours I look terrible in: bright pillarbox red, orange. (I thought I looked terrible in yellow but it's occurred to me it's so long since I've bought yellow I may not actually know.)
Colours I look good in: pale rose pink, mint green, electric blue (that Yves Klein colour), silver grey.

Jewellery wise, not a clue. Tried both gold and silver by my face this morning and couldn't distinguish which was better.

Any ideas?

MissScatterbrain Sun 26-Jan-14 13:10:25


JennySense Sun 26-Jan-14 13:45:00

You sound Spring to me too.
What colour are your veins?

Your hair colour doesn't affect your colouring as I recall?

MarvellousMechanicalMouseOrgan Sun 26-Jan-14 14:07:28

Green I think.

Aquelven Sun 26-Jan-14 14:58:55

I'm blue spring & reading at first I thought you might be the same but, having reached the part where you say you look terrible in orange, yellow & pillar box red but good in pale rose pink, mint green & electric blue, I don't think you can be spring at all as none of those colours are on our palette. I think you are some sort of Summer.

MarvellousMechanicalMouseOrgan Sun 26-Jan-14 16:05:12

Am I some sort of freak? grin

Aquelven Sun 26-Jan-14 16:31:15

No, didn't mean that at all. Yellow, orange & red are in the spring swatches. Even if yellow is not one of your best colours as a spring it will still suit you far, far better than pink. All our greens have a yellow tone so lime will suit more than mint. Same with reds, burgundy colours are amongst the very worst for springs.

MarvellousMechanicalMouseOrgan Sun 26-Jan-14 16:48:39

On this page, my eyes are just like the ones described as cool and delicate, apart from two tiny yellow/brown flecks. Mine also have a strong line around the iris though.

Have just taken a hideously unattractive photo of myself where my face is most definitely pink toned.

Can't imagine wearing burgundy at all, had winey coloured hair once and it was awful for me, but then I'm trying not to veto colours just because I don't like them!

This is the sort of pink that suits me.

spottymoo Sun 26-Jan-14 16:56:46

Do you have a link to the questionnaires you looked at I'd love to work out my colours

MarvellousMechanicalMouseOrgan Sun 26-Jan-14 17:11:14


I'd say in appearance I'm somewhere between the first two pics on the last link. But with slightly darker hair.

On that last site it describes cool colours as this: Cool seasons come alive in Pinks and Blues and Berry colors.
Eyes: Blue is most common. Hazel and blue-grey are also seen.
You may have a definite natural pink ‘glow’ to your skin.
Your hair can be ash blonde, or ash highlights; or rich chestnut brown with no reddish hightlights or true black.
Warm earthy colors, particularly golden yellow can make you look sick.

Which is definitely me, apart from the warm tone to my hair.

I'm getting like a dog with a bone now! grinblush

DramaAlpaca Sun 26-Jan-14 17:17:29

I think you might be more of a summer than a spring if your skin has pinky tones.

Your colouring is a bit similar to mine, although I have hazel eyes, and I was a cool summer when I had my colours done ages ago.

MarvellousMechanicalMouseOrgan Sun 26-Jan-14 17:24:01

Pink tones is right, in the awful pic I've just taken I look like a ham in a wig. grin

LittleBabyPigsus Sun 26-Jan-14 17:41:01

Sounds like summer to me.

It is possible to have a neutral skin tone fwiw, I do, but you def sound cool-toned.

hollyisalovelyname Sun 26-Jan-14 17:57:08

Ask somebody what colours look better on you from that link you did.
I'm supposed to be Spring but my dsis thought the Summer colours pictured on the website look better on me. I agree with her. Mind you my hair is dyed smile

Hopefully Sun 26-Jan-14 18:26:47

Could be any of them TBH. <helpful>

Electric blue is a winter colour, mint green is summer, pale grey is spring or summer depending on tone, but then burgundy appears in both summer and winter palettes and you don't like it on you. Really without direct comparison between warm/cool and bright/muted drapes you're as well off picking a season you like the look of and running with it, if you don't want to get analysed in RL. Even just sticking to one colour palette will make your look more 'together' even if it isn't the right one for you.

MarvellousMechanicalMouseOrgan Sun 26-Jan-14 18:44:04

Good point, Hopefully. Breton Blue and Silver appear on both Summer and Spring in the Kettlewell colours (shame I don't really like any of their clothes!), so at least I'm on safe ground with those!

Thanks everyone for your thoughts!

HazleNutt Sun 26-Jan-14 18:58:28

Can I ask, does electric blue really suit you or do you just like it? I kept insisting for years that bright strong turquoise is "my" colour and suits me brilliantly and therefore I must be a spring - but in reality I just liked turquoise and look way better in soft pastel blue. (I'm a summer).

Could you take something summer coloured and something from spring and try them, just like they do with those scarves when getting colours done? I can actually see a massive difference - too bright colours, although I love them, drain me; but soft colours make my skin glow and eyes sparkle.

MarvellousMechanicalMouseOrgan Sun 26-Jan-14 19:06:52

Good question, and I really am trying to avoid the pitfall of buying things because I like the colour, rather than because I like the colour on me.

I have a top in that Breton Blue colour, and a few people have commented that I look good in it. It's a very plain top, and they were referring to the colour not the cut. That's the same reason I'm banging on about silver grey, the same thing happened with a top I had in that colour (although it did have a very slight green tinge).

All this is because I've decided to buy into the 'quality not quantity' shopping thing, and want to really make sure things are worth buying.

MarvellousMechanicalMouseOrgan Sun 26-Jan-14 19:08:07

That blue top is the only really bright thing I have, like most people I'm sure I have several black things and other stuff that isn't really doing anything for me.

Aquelven Sun 26-Jan-14 19:12:56

Why not just bite the bullet & go & get your colours done?
I know it's an outlay but by the time you've spent £25 on four things that lie festering unworn in your wardrobe you've broke even & need never waste money on unsuitable things again.

MarvellousMechanicalMouseOrgan Sun 26-Jan-14 19:20:14

You're right, of course. Is one organisation better than another? Or much of a muchness?

My hair is badly dyed at the moment, do they put a cloth over that anyway?

HazleNutt Sun 26-Jan-14 19:33:11

I bet you're a summer - I always get compliments when wearing breton blue as well.

Hopasholic Sun 26-Jan-14 19:45:53

They look at your natural colour, so even if you've dyed it electric blue it won't matter grin if you have some roots showing then that's a good thing.

Have it done, honestly it's well worth it. Go to HoC, the swatch booklet is really handy. Tell us your rough location in case someone can recommend a consultant.

MarvellousMechanicalMouseOrgan Sun 26-Jan-14 19:49:28

There's only one near me on the HOC website, so I guess that decision is made!

DramaAlpaca Sun 26-Jan-14 20:35:18

I think you are almost certainly a summer. Breton blue & silver grey are good on me too, whereas black drains me completely.

I got my colours done with HOC & I found it very useful.

Please come back & tell us what the verdict is smile

hollyisalovelyname Mon 27-Jan-14 00:01:36

Surely the colour of your hair now influences what coours suit you ? Your hair, skintone and eyes.

LittleBabyPigsus Mon 27-Jan-14 07:22:54

Hair colour isn't taken into account by HoC consultants but is by CMB.

MissScatterbrain Mon 27-Jan-14 07:39:12

Your hair colour isn't taken into account when being diagnosed at HOC (dyed hair is usually covered) but they do advise you on what colours you should be looking at if you dye it.

MarvellousMechanicalMouseOrgan Mon 27-Jan-14 08:56:35

This is all good!

Hopefully Mon 27-Jan-14 09:24:19

We cover hair when doing the analysis if it's coloured (at HoC) - given the choice between matching an artificial hair colour or a natural skin tone, we'd rather make the latter look amazing. Hair colour can easily be shifted a bit warmer or a bit cooler to make it fit in better with the colours that make your skin look amazing, if necessary. It's not about the consultant announcing you can only be blonde/brunette or whatever from here on in. I had a blue spring a while back who had violet and aqua hair. Toned in beautifully with her colours!

vitaminC Mon 27-Jan-14 14:21:32

I think you sound like a light spring/borderline light summer.

Have you tried this test?

The pink t-shirt you linked to was a warm, corally pink, not a cool pink, so I would think you are more likely a spring than a summer, but it's a spectrum, so you could be right on the border between the two!

hollyisalovelyname Mon 27-Jan-14 15:40:59

But your hair is such a big factor in hiw you look - a very dominating part of your appearance.

MarvellousMechanicalMouseOrgan Mon 27-Jan-14 16:04:22

On that test I think I'm a cool soft/muted.

Hopefully Mon 27-Jan-14 16:15:48

It is Holly, but it doesn't affect which colours make your skin tone look the best, iykwim. A lot of clients choose to slightly shift their hair colour after their analysis, to be either warmer or cooler, but all that means is it harmonises with their natural colouring rather than working against it.

MissScatterbrain Mon 27-Jan-14 17:43:49

Re the hair thing - imagine how Anne Hathaway would look if she had warm colour added to her hair. The same goes for make up - she looks best with cool based make up.

LittleBabyPigsus Tue 28-Jan-14 00:30:13

Yes - hair colour doesn't change your skin tone. And remember that for most people hair colour changes naturally over their lifetime, to white or grey. Doesn't change their season (although iirc it can change which category of a season they fall into, though that might just be CMB - eg deep winters often go for cool winter colours as their hair goes white/grey).

MissScatterbrain Tue 28-Jan-14 07:13:56

Little - under HOC your sub season can change as you age which is why they offer rerate sessions. I know my best colours have certainly changed over the past 20 years as I no longer can do some of the jewels colours as well as I used to.

MarvellousMechanicalMouseOrgan Tue 04-Feb-14 16:04:48

Got colours done yesterday and turns out I'm a Winter!

Also turns out I do suit burgundy, I just don't like it. blush

Still a bit confused as to what happens when I get a tan, but am emboldened by my swatch wallet.

DramaAlpaca Tue 04-Feb-14 22:56:40

Wow a winter! We all got it wrong didn't we grin

Hope you have fun shopping with your swatch wallet.

LittleBabyPigsus Wed 05-Feb-14 03:05:45

Marvellous black and latina women can be winters so I don't think it'd change when you tan. America Ferrara (Betty in Ugly Betty) is an example. It's about having contrast in your skin/eyes.

MarvellousMechanicalMouseOrgan Wed 05-Feb-14 08:18:34

Well, I don't think I have much contrast, but she started from 'bright' (I think) ie my eye colour and then a cool skin colour. Winter was the season I'd ruled out first on the questionnaires.

Very grateful I can still wear charcoal grey and black as at least they're easily found.

My ** colours at 100% are Charcoal, Indigo, Electric Blue, Lobelia, Raspberry, Dark Emerald and, ahem, Burgundy.

A lot of your double stars are the same as mine OP - good set of colours! There is a winter thread on here which is great for make up reccs.

MarvellousMechanicalMouseOrgan Wed 05-Feb-14 08:59:57

Thanks Amber. Where do you buy clothes from? I love the ease of searching by colour on Kettlewell, but I don't like many of their clothes.

FrugalFashionista Wed 05-Feb-14 09:47:23

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

FrugalFashionista Wed 05-Feb-14 09:49:14

Sorry OP, you got your verdict already! Congratulations, Winter colors are great!

MarvellousMechanicalMouseOrgan Wed 05-Feb-14 09:53:57

Am adjusting to the idea of them. Apart from the green and blue, I do feel they're a bit bold and contrasting, for me wearing contrasting colours with accessories feels very 80s.

Aquelven Wed 05-Feb-14 10:25:10

Congratulations! Winters have some stunning colours, shopping should be easier now. I got you completely wrong!

FrugalFashionista. I was fascinated reading your post as I seem to be coming at virtually the same point from the other direction. I'm a Blue Spring. Like yours, my skin is very pale & neutral, any foundation that has yellow in it,no matter how light, makes me look jaundiced. I also suit many of the lighter shades from the Summer palette, especially the blue toned lavenders & pale blues, though baby pink is really good & not on the HoC spring swatch where they are mostly coral toned. I look awful in the tans/orangey/ yellows that are in my swatch & they are very low rated for me. My best neutrals are at the other end, pale grey, light navy. Black & white is also the worst combination I can wear. My consultant didn't really go into contrast but it was a busy day as there were a few others there that day. I'm wondering if that means I should avoid high contrast too.
I too was blonde as a child & still am, a very, very light neutral/white blonde, where your eyes veer towards warm mine do the opposite, being a bright turquoise.
Like you, I was sure I'd be a summer or spring though I was pretty certain it would be summer ( wrong!!). You're so right about it being impossible to self diagnose if you are at all neutral.

Interesting about the contrast. Some seasons are more high contrast than others, (Winter and Spring), but that doesn't actually mean that the look that will suit you is high contrast, as it's often a style thing.

So, although I'm a Summer, wearing 5 muted, blended colours together really doesn't suit my look - I am better in bright and bold colours, so for example, I wear blue grey or purple with cherry red, or navy with winter white, for a high contrast look.

I would recommend getting to grips with colour first, before you do your style day though. Just be sure not to buy anything that isn't really 'you', even though it's your colours.

FrugalFashionista Wed 05-Feb-14 10:43:06

Great Aquelven if you found my long-winded post helpful! wink Self-diagnosis is straightforward if someone is a textbook case but many of us are not!

You can think through the contrast issue if you take a b&w photo of yourself (easy with any photo editing software). Are there clear contrasts or is it just a mass of grays with very little tonal differences? Sarah Jessica Parker and Ellen Pompeo are classic low-contrast types.

Low contrast means that my b&w is soft white and taupe wink Understanding this has transformed my wardrobe and I'm now totally comfortable with a largely neutral everyday wardrobe. I feel this is my authentic self and I can go easy on makeup. Post color analysis, many women go OTT with brights lipstick and clownish color combinations and I did that too, but it's really hard to look chic in aqua turquoise. I still do dramatic high-impact brights in the summer and for parties and other occasions where I want to stand out, but finding the perfect neutrals is much comfier for day to day dressing...

MarvellousMechanicalMouseOrgan Wed 05-Feb-14 10:48:40

I'm not going to do a style day, I'm happy with my style choices, it was just colour I wanted a hand with as I felt I was looking so tired all the time. Note taken about not buying something that 'isn't me' just because it's the right colour.

FrugalFashionista Wed 05-Feb-14 11:15:21

I'm still not 100% sold on the style day. I speak many languages; I live in two countries; I have a dozen signature perfumes. I like fiction and nonfiction, renaissance art and abstract expressionism. So why should I have just one basic clothing style? My style choices are influenced by where I am, what I do and who I am with. High fashion works well in a cocktail party but not at all in the park with toddlers when it's raining. I think getting dressed is also creative self-expression. I enjoy sleek and severe Scandinavian minimalism when I'm there, Valentino-type romantic stuff in the summer in Rome and casual menswear-inspired outfits when I'm at home. What I love about Italy is stylistic fluidity and versatility - they do formal and semi-formal really well, but also have great weekend wardrobes that are more laid-back and trendy.

But yes, the style day will probably be helpful for people who have no clue, want to simplify their wardrobe or start from scratch.

claudeekishi Wed 05-Feb-14 11:17:24

I am really interested to hear that you've been diagnosed as a Winter, Marvellous. Your descriptions about your colouring sound quite similar to mine and although I've always been instinctively drawn to Clear Winter colours (and get complimented when I wear them), a lot in the online questionnaires has thrown me off. Eg I have definite warm tones in my natural hair colour, I have that goldy sunburst thing around my pupil, and lots of freckles. But my colouring is definitely definitely cool and pinky. I was beginning to think that I might be some kind of Summer, but this still doesn't feel quite right. So I think I'll continue to take Hopefully's advice and stick with the colour palette I feel drawn to.

Disclaimer for Hopefully and Travel -- I do totally think that it's money well spent getting an official diagnosis and am itching to do so -- but I don't live in the UK and would not trust the equivalents here! However I am encouraging all of my UK-based friends to go for it smile

MarvellousMechanicalMouseOrgan Wed 05-Feb-14 11:40:25

I'm a Jewel Winter, claude, if that helps you any further.

Anyone here worn the HOC mineral foundation? I liked it, but have loads of my current one left to use up first.

Anyone here steadfastly avoid certain colours in their palette, or do you wear all of them?

Need to find a Winter thread to hang out with, but a quick look makes me think the Spring lot are the most proactive on MN.

MarvellousMechanicalMouseOrgan Wed 05-Feb-14 11:42:16

Frugal, I LOVE severe Scandinavian minimalism, but am finding that a lot of clothes like that don't suit my shape (porkish and short). grin

FrugalFashionista Wed 05-Feb-14 12:46:14

Marvellous anything slouchy or oversized looks terrible on me, I look like a beggar. The opposite, cropped jeans and trousers is also a total no-no with my frame. I'm a bit skeletal middlelife spread helps so anything very boxy is verboten too.

So I guess personal style is all about understanding one's limitations and highlighting the best bits. For me, it's compromises between what I would love to wear and what actually looks good on me and what I feel comfortable in...

MarvellousMechanicalMouseOrgan Wed 05-Feb-14 13:12:28

Tricky, isn't it? That Scandinavian thing with neutrals and no pattern looks so edgy and cool to me, pah. I do like the vintagey thing like Ms Allsop but that tends to be very patterned and I'm not sure I'm able to carry it off anyway.

I like Great Plains clothes but they're hopeless in my colours.

I'm not prepared to accept that it's Next or M&S or nudity!

LittleBabyPigsus Thu 06-Feb-14 02:26:21

claude you sound very similar in colouring to me and I am definitely a winter. 12seasons (or whatever the name is, 12categories?) classes bright winters as a neutral, which is me.

Marvellous I too love the edgy Scandi look but am also short and stocky, sigh. I find that a vintage shape with either bold solid colours or a bigger, very simple pattern is best. Eg a 50s type frock in plain cobalt blue, or in a large navy gingham (for example). Boden do plain but bright dresses well, I think. I think part of having the right colours is that what looks odd on paper works on you. My best colours look really clownish on paper, but look great on me and really light me up from within. My mum is a soft summer and her colours look quite drab on paper eg olive green, but look pretty and radiant on her.

goodasitgets Thu 06-Feb-14 02:58:51

Could I tag on and ask if anyone can help with my colours?
I can post a pic if it helps. Pale skin (lighter than MAC NW20), green eyes that sometimes have flecks of gold/brown, natural redhead. Freckles, burn at glimpse of sun, tan only on arms grin

LittleBabyPigsus Thu 06-Feb-14 04:21:16

good do you have a warm, cool, or neutral skin tone? Skin tone matters more than hair and eye colour. It sounds like you might be a summer since you probably have a cool skin tone.

goodasitgets Thu 06-Feb-14 12:56:43

I would have said cool I think. I wear a lot of silver jewellery but then gold and bronze eyeshadow look good!
This is daylight pic, no foundation (not natural hair colour)

You have beautiful skin! But no way of diagnosing a season without draping. Best way is just to pick whichever one you are drawn to, and stick to that. Your brows are warm and hair cool at the moment.

goodasitgets Thu 06-Feb-14 13:21:01

Thank you - used to suffer really badly with skin. Have caroline hirons to thank for that!!
I'm a weird hybrid of colours grin am about to go back red brunette for a change

LittleBabyPigsus Fri 07-Feb-14 04:12:29

I would say you're cool toned - you can have some warmth to your hair and still be a cool season btw.

whereisshe Fri 07-Feb-14 06:38:59

goodasitgets I would say cool too (winter or summer). The easiest way to tell is with black - summers look a bit haggard in black but it really suits winters.

Marvellous I'm a winter too! There is a winter thread running, you might have found it already. My go to place for minimal Scandi chic (which I love too) is asos - they have quite a few Scandi brands. And I live in the neutral colours on the palette, the bright ones scare me (I'm willing to buy those as scarves only!)..

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