So if you have shoulder length, straight, fine hair...

(65 Posts)
GetYourSocksOff Sun 17-Nov-13 21:19:23

...and a couple of kids and minus minutes to spend on it, what do you do with it?

I'm fed up with my hair looking rubbish, can't seem to find a way to put it up without looking scruffy or like a teenager (closer to 40), at the moment it just looks lank and it's driving me crazy.

I don't really want to go shorter again but I need a better style or some good putting-it-up ideas or a way to get some life back into it or maybe just a magic wand.

Can anyone help?

southeastastra Sun 17-Nov-13 21:21:41

long layers and babylis big hair

Idespair Sun 17-Nov-13 21:22:30

Get it cut a bit shorter into a bob?

GetYourSocksOff Sun 17-Nov-13 21:24:46

I keep spotting babyliss big hair recs on here... are they really that good? Doesn't it take ages?

Hmm off to google long bob pics, quite like the idea of that.

GetYourSocksOff Sun 17-Nov-13 21:25:32


lucidlady Sun 17-Nov-13 21:25:41

I changed my hairdryer to a salon strength one - much more powerful. The effect was instantaneous!

GetYourSocksOff Sun 17-Nov-13 21:27:56

Really? What did you do with it? Do you use a brush or just blast it?

southeastastra Sun 17-Nov-13 21:29:57

yes, it's great, having layers gives it more volume and the bbh is really quick to use. my hair is really fine but is easy to style and lasts now

HelloBoys Sun 17-Nov-13 21:33:09

2nd what lucid lady says.

also is it coloured/highlighted (like mine is)

I have long layers and growing out a fringe which kicks out about jaw length one side but looks good (don't ask how). A regular trim has helped it lately. Also - Aussome Volume works well on it and spray wax (redken do one) at roots on side. I use the Aveda leave in stuff (forget name) on hair when damp and their finishing lotion (also forget name but light blue bottle) afterwards. Another thing is Redken outshine great if hair is highlighted.

Got new dryer too - Babyliss and it works very well. I DO HAVE the Big Hair but unless for special occasions I can't be faffed with it for everyday but that's me. Good conditioner (I use a Boots Botanics one now) is also a godsend.

Thereisaplace Sun 17-Nov-13 21:39:21

layers and babyliss big hair. I won't go back to a hairdryer now.Also I'm better with kerastase volumising shampoo and spray.

GetYourSocksOff Sun 17-Nov-13 21:43:27

Ooh thanks for the product recommendations... didn't even know spray wax existed.

Mine's highlighted too.

I'll try some of those, I'm going to stock up tomorrow as I'm running low on just about everything at the moment anyway.

(Bought some timotei for a pound in ASDA the other day, following my theory that as long as you have decent conditioner the shampoo isn't so important. It's not a theory I recommend. My hair looks baaaad)

HelloBoys Sun 17-Nov-13 21:51:37

I wish there was a cheaper spray wax (some Boots stuff I just find is dire) I liked but sadly not.... schwarzkopf osis do one too.

do you have fine hair but a lot of it? I do. Bloody hair....!

still it's behaving itself right now. grin

Strange that - I used an old bottle (full) of Christmas Cookie (Philosophy) but you can use as shampoo, bubble bath etc - hair seems to LURVE that right now. but yeah use anything. Timotei is nice.

if I put too many non sudsy organic shampoos etc near it hair doesn't seem to like it. no idea why!

RevoltingPeasant Sun 17-Nov-13 21:51:52

OP I just got my hair cut into a graduated bob and love love love it. Also started using Wella stuff from the salon, and Sebastian Mitchell Thickefy Foam. So much better!

ShreddedHoops Sun 17-Nov-13 21:53:05

I have similar hair / child issues - my top tip for avoiding lankness in ponytails is dry shampoo. Squoosh some into roots, shake fingers through roots, scrape back with fingers into ponytail or messy half loop thing. It makes my hair look a) clean, b) a bit thicker, c) like I spent more than ten seconds doing it, and d) gives it a bit of hold too. It's my fail safe look for day 3 after washing smile

DrinkFeckArseGirls Sun 17-Nov-13 21:55:01

Velcro rollers on semi dry hair.

GirlWithTheDirtyShirt Sun 17-Nov-13 21:55:07

I find that unless you get some kind of crop (and admittedly I never have) the shorter your hair, the more hassle it is.

My hair is v fine, vaguely wavy (but not in a way that you would call nice) and it's currently half way between shoulder and bra strap. I stupidly had it cut in a bob a couple of years ago and spent way too long trying to tame it.

My advice...grow it, and get some GHDs. Bingo.

HelloBoys Sun 17-Nov-13 21:57:00

DrinkFeck - yeah love velcro rollers but faff for everyday. nice for night/special occasions.

GetYourSocksOff Sun 17-Nov-13 22:00:12

ohhh revoltingpeasant (should you change your user name now you have new hair? grin ) just googled graduated bob and now thinking that might get me down to the hairdresser. I really like some of the images. Some of them are very short though, bit scared about losing the length (have only just grown it again).

HelloBoys I used to have fine hair but lots of it, that was how it was always described by hairdressers, pre-babies. I'm not sure the 'lots of it' bit applies any more.

It definitely needs a cut, I think.

GetYourSocksOff Sun 17-Nov-13 22:03:39

How did it take me nearly 10 minutes to write that?!

Velcro rollers don't seem to help mine a great deal, it looks good for about a minute and a half then flops back to where it started. Time is also an issue.

I use GHDs all the time to tame the frizz (I'm making my hair sound lovely smile ) and I wonder if that's part of the reason why it's so tired at the moment.

Dry shampoo... that's something else I've not tried yet.

DrinkFeckArseGirls Sun 17-Nov-13 22:06:46

You also need Kerastase shampoo and leave in spray conditioner. My hair looks like I've just been to the hairdressers, even if I do it a day before!

GetYourSocksOff Sun 17-Nov-13 22:09:07

I really like this style:

I have a shopping list for tomorrow!

GetYourSocksOff Sun 17-Nov-13 22:09:35
GetYourSocksOff Sun 17-Nov-13 22:10:11

grr sorry

It's basically a long graduated bob

GetYourSocksOff Sun 17-Nov-13 22:11:18
Sandiacre Sun 17-Nov-13 22:15:33

I have had a bob like that, it did require a bit of effort. I now have a shoulder length bob that is not graduated. Ether blow dry and brush or straighten and do a bit more if going out. Or default pull back and shove up in a clip.

GetYourSocksOff Sun 17-Nov-13 22:19:13

Is your hair as thin and rubbish as mine sandiacre ? I can't get away with blow drying alone as it just looks a bit crazy and frizzy, so if you had to do a bit more styling anyway would that make a difference?

nooka Sun 17-Nov-13 22:26:13

My dd has had that type of cut and it looks lovely. She currently has more of a pixie type thing going on. Crazy how ever very short hair has a mind of it's own! I had a pixie for years and now have just over shoulder length. Fine and not a huge volume of it. I just towel dry it and that gives it just enough body for me. I'm not really one for products but did find recently that using a conditioner specifically for fine hair made a bit of difference, otherwise most conditioners make my hair look lank and in need of a wash.

monkeysmama Sun 17-Nov-13 23:02:43

Mine is much longer but dry shampoo has been almost life changing. Highly recommended.

Sandiacre Sun 17-Nov-13 23:18:26

Well mine is very fine and flyaway, my Mum used to call it rats tails when I was little, thanks Mum!

I found when I had a graduated bob it looked really nice if I bothered to straighten it. I think it is straightened in that photo.

plentyofsoap Sun 17-Nov-13 23:38:25

Every six weeks I get a good cut. Decent shampoo and conditioner with an intense treatment on a regular basis. Layers help too, plus ghd on it when I get time. If not frizz ease spray helps.

DrinkFeckArseGirls Sun 17-Nov-13 23:42:50

That's a lively hair cut but very high maintenance!

MissScatterbrain Mon 18-Nov-13 07:47:40

Bobs are high maintenance and can easily look mumsy. Either go pixie short style or shoulder length.

I use BBH - wash hair, leave to partially dry while doing chores then spend 5 mins drying and styling. No GHDs - far too damaging.

Fine hair when long tends to get messy - but don't let that bother you.

Iris445 Mon 18-Nov-13 07:57:54

I let mine dry in two big buns, I twist sections and roll into a bun ( think princess lea) when I take it out in the morning it looks fab. Messy curly type affair on the bottom, sleek on the top.
I find not using a hair dryer makes it so soft and shiny.

Iris445 Mon 18-Nov-13 07:59:16

Oh yes I use Moroccan oil too. Aussie shampoo and cond.

Bearleigh Mon 18-Nov-13 08:06:54

If you're near London, the best thing I ever did with hair like that is go to Aveda in Holborn for a blow drying lesson.

I got advice on the best (Aveda) products for my hair, plus learned how to blow dry it in a clever way that makes it look sleek. Since then I have been proud of my hair most days.

nilbyname Mon 18-Nov-13 08:11:46

op I have exactly the same hair as you.

Firstly- stop straightening it, it is wrecking your hair.

Next invest in some good products.

Nioxin poo and conditioner for fine and chemically treated hair.
Bumble and Bumble leave in thickening serum- this goes on nightly
Bumble and Bumble mending complex leave in conditioner

Then IF I am going out, I use bumble and bumble prep then thickening had spray. If not, I just give my hair a root blast and rough dry, then sorry a bit of Bastisse XXL volume through the ends this makes the ends fuller and thicker.

Regular cuts, good colour. This has been my regime now for 6m and my hair although never going to be really thick is looking good and healthy.

Also my hair has a slight wave/wisp to it. I have decided to embrace it rather than trying to tame/straightening it all the time. My hair looks a bit like this…. but not the face!!

Jacksterbear Mon 18-Nov-13 08:20:45

My hair is shoulder length and so fine I can't wear it down - it just hangs totally limply and goes into rats tails!

I have a sweepy fringe which I blow dry with a large round brush and then just put the rest back in a knot/bun, which I try to make as big as poss to add the illusion of volume.

Here are some good up-do suggestions (also the photo I took to my hairdresser to get my fringe done).

HelloBoys Mon 18-Nov-13 10:04:10

I will invest in blow drying lesson so thanks to whoever suggested that.

for gods sake DO NOT GHD fine highlighted hair. special occasions only - it will ruin and weaken the hair badly.

I DID have the graduated bob thing - looks nice if you like it - surprisingly I didn't do much apart from blow dry/Babyliss Big Hair to it - BUT you have to be prepared to like that length and you can't put it up so much.

I would not 100% go for expensive products either re shampoo - if you can afford it yes but if you wash like I do every other day then expensive. I use Boots stuff or Timotei Organic (?) the newish ones. Styling products/leave in conditioners are what I find/call the dogs bollocks - makes all the difference.

NO to morrocan oil for fine hair will just make it limp and nasty and greasy IME. there is one for fine hair but not tried it.

HelloBoys Mon 18-Nov-13 10:06:01

as nilby says regular cuts and good colour too. I swear when I don't bleach the hell out of it with high lift bleach highlights (Aveda do kinder bleach or blonder colours forget name) I can grow it more and it looks nicer when trimmed. I get half an inch off but it was an inch and a half recently due to me frying it in sun over summer.

GetYourSocksOff Mon 18-Nov-13 21:23:03

Thanks so much for all the suggestions.

Today I wore my hair in the chignon in that video, it's a good style. Although was a bit dishevelled after being shoved in a hood smile And I bought a baby loss big hair (I actually did). It's enormous.

Planning to book a haircut and work my way through the other suggestions.

Thanks again x

GetYourSocksOff Mon 18-Nov-13 21:24:01

Eeurk *babyliss , sorry. Horrible autocorrect.

HelloBoys Tue 19-Nov-13 12:01:56

keep us updated.

will let you know if I see/try new stuff. always good to get suggestions/recommendations.

My mum LOL thinks I look great with my hair up (like you scrunch it up when you have a bath) but this is my default when she's popped round to see me on weekend in morning for gossip and I'm not up yet! she reckons I should wear it like this more often but I'm like NOOOO.

OP Babyliss Big Hair is enormous and takes some getting used to (eg what you want to do with it etc) but is fairly easy to tackle after a while. My mum (has fine hair too but in longish bob) won't be without hers, thinks it is a godsend.

dancemom Tue 19-Nov-13 12:06:00

Sleep rollers - takes 10 minutes to put them in before bed and in the morning whip them out, blast if hairspray and good to go grin I ❤️ Them!

SantiagoToots Tue 19-Nov-13 12:12:10

My hairdresser has absolutely said no to layers, ends up thin and straggly.

I wash mine now every 2/3 days, have a fringe cut in and blow-dry with good products. Stays looking swishy and full now for 2/3 days.

GetYourSocksOff Tue 19-Nov-13 18:43:29

I used the BBH this morning, just to try it on my (now quite long) fringe. It was GREAT.

I think the suggestion that a good sweeping fringe and hair I can pin back might be the way to go. I suit my hair up and fringe was quickly sorted this morning.

On the lookout for some more easy up do styles. Will post if I find any.

Moltobene Tue 19-Nov-13 21:23:40

I've never tried dry shampoo but like the idea of being able to do updos with a bit of body. Feel a bit nervous of trying it though. My hair is very dark- won't it look really wierd if you can see it's got powder in it?

GetYourSocksOff Tue 19-Nov-13 21:27:09

I wonder that about dry shampoo, too

CointreauVersial Tue 19-Nov-13 23:04:50

I have similar fine, limp hair.

I swear by my BBH (I have the smaller-barrelled one, with the pink switch), and use a mixture of gel and mousse to give bit some oomph.

Dry shampoo is the business; use the brunette variety if you don't want it to show.

I did have it cut into a graduated bob a few months back; shortly afterwards, DD2 recounted word-for-word that she heard one of the playground mums saying that bobs were mumsy and awful.hmm And DH moans that it's too short (even though he moaned it was too flat before it had it cut hmm hmm ). But I quite like it, and it does have more body than it did. I might grow it out a bit (OK, I am too busy to go to the hairdressers at the moment).

fizzly Tue 19-Nov-13 23:10:57

marking place sorry. No time to read now. A lot of the above recommendations seem a bit time consuming to me (2 kids under 5 and only have time for make up once a fortnight....). Will re read tomorrow and come back with questions!

FluffyJumper Wed 20-Nov-13 00:47:29

A few layers, plenty of mousse and heated rollers. And I have the flattest limpest straightest hair in history. And once you've got used to it you can put the rollers in in 2-3 minutes (always in totally dry hair) eat your breakfast and voila - Ava Gardner grin

Jacksterbear Wed 20-Nov-13 12:00:20

I had never heard of BBH before this thread! Just added it to my Xmas wish list!

OP glad you liked the small things blog and tutorials (assuming that's the one you meant!). Am also sporting the "low chignon" today although it's looking a bit bedraggled now from the rain grin.

HelloBoys Wed 20-Nov-13 17:37:04

Fizzly - if you read through reviews eg on Boots about BBH (I sound like a salesperson!) most people rave about how quick and easy it is to use.

I say IF you want your hair to look halfway decent then invest the time, often when you use these tools do the routines you can cut the time using them down again, because practice makes perfect!

GetYourSocksOff Thu 21-Nov-13 10:25:38

jacksterbear yes it was. We're hair twins grin

I'm liking the BBH a lot but it is too time consuming for my usual mornings, will be using it daily on fringe and whenever I get more time.

Still hunting for more up-do styles to pass on

Jacksterbear Thu 21-Nov-13 13:19:01

Yay hair twins! grin

I would be getting the BBH to do my fringe only - that's the only bit I ever style!

Presume you saw the other up-dos on the small things blog - I linked directly to the low chignon I think but there are quite a few other styles.

Do other fine-haired people also have to wash their hair every day? Mine looks dreadful if I don't, but IRL if I mention this people are always hmm confused.

Lambzig Thu 21-Nov-13 18:12:56

So which size Babylis big hair is best for fine hair collarbone length? Descriptions are very confusing.

GetYourSocksOff Sun 24-Nov-13 21:22:05

I don't know lambzig, sorry - I bought the only one they had in stock which is the big one and I really like it. I didn't know they came in different sizes.

No I didn't see the other styles, jacksterbear, will go back and have a look! I wash mine every other day too.

I did… and I chopped it all off! (pics on profile).

Jackster - I have to wash it every day or it is impossible to deal with. Dry shampoo buys me a few hours but not a full work day sad

minipie Mon 25-Nov-13 09:14:48

I have similar hair, it's highlighted and cut to just below shoulders with an off centre parting and shorter bit at one side

daily routine is to wash with all in one shampoo and conditioner (yes I need to wash every day) and er ... that's it. If I'm lucky I get to brush it grin

so am watching for ideas!

Tweet2tweet Mon 25-Nov-13 15:30:58

I just bought some of those spiral hair clip things from pound shop. I have a chic french twist which took less than 60 seconds and so far hasn't fallen out! My hair is fine and normally won't stay up so this is an amazing find for me!

PottedPlant Mon 25-Nov-13 15:55:58

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

MonkeysInTheFog Mon 25-Nov-13 16:01:22

Apply mousse to damp hair - not wet - comb through and then leave it so that the mousse gets a chance to penetrate a bit.
Blow dry upside down, aiming the flow in the opposite direction that the hair likes to hang iykwim.
Stay upside down/swish it about til hair is cool.
Style with babyliss BH.
I can get my fine, poker straight hair quite full and bouncy this way. If it goes wrong it means I've omitted at least one of the steps.

MonkeysInTheFog Mon 25-Nov-13 16:02:07

Oh and concentrate the mousse at the roots.
And only condition the ends.

evelynj Tue 26-Nov-13 20:47:52

I need to know what size bbh to get for fine shoulder length hair too-smaller or bigger one?

At least it's cheaper than the secret curl that I'm lusting after!

I have been considering asking my hairdresser about a perm, (though my hair is highlighted). Seems like a good way to get volume-is this a ridiculous idea?

evelynj Wed 04-Dec-13 16:30:12

Anyone know if the 42 or the 50mm would be better for shoulder length fine hair?

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