Which coat? WARNING! Boring 'performance' coats may feature.

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I've spent about three winters freezing my nips off trying to look cool wearing a leather jacket in the playground. I've now realised I just looked cold and possibly a bit of a wanker. Ergo I need a proper coat.

As a fully paid up member of the HoC cult, I need it to be either a nice berry colour, navy or grey. I will not countenance real fur on it so nice ones like Aigle/Canada Goose/Moncler are out.

So I have seen these two I quite like (as much as it is possible for me to like anything so functional). So which is better? Or are there other, better options?

Lands End (I know)

North Face

MrsCampbellBlack Sat 02-Nov-13 09:13:13

Can't see the lands end one but the north face one looks nice. I have the barbour arctic down parka which is good and belted which would work well on you.

mysteryfairy Sat 02-Nov-13 09:25:43

Was the lands end one petite? My experience of the smallest regular size from lands end is that it is far too wide for a size 10 figure.

Lands end is the Shimmer Down coat. Sounds bloody awful, but looks ok, I think...

I like the Barbour Artic parka a lot, but it only comes in black and stone, I think - neither of which work terribly well with my casual wardrobe. If only they did it in Navy!

Really mystery? I'm an 8-10 normally, so maybe I should get the petite - I'm only 5'4, so would probably be ok...

mysteryfairy Sat 02-Nov-13 10:05:28
LittleTulip Sat 02-Nov-13 10:21:38

I would choose north face over any other mainstream brand. The north face will be amazing quality and will last you ages.

MissFoodie Sat 02-Nov-13 10:45:45


Abzs Sat 02-Nov-13 10:48:44

For navy and berry colours, you should look at Jack Wolfskin. Think their range has changed this year but they usually have two or three that might fit the bill. I would probably choose a Jack Wolf skin over a North Face equivalent.

Snowlike Sat 02-Nov-13 10:49:57

If you are choosing performance and expect the weather where you live to be cold and wet then down alone will not suffice - you will need a waterproof coating of some sort - wet down has little in the way of warming properties. North Face Arctic parka has a breathable waterproof exterior and is down filled, I'm sure there are others but I have the North Face and it works a treat.

LordPalmerston Sat 02-Nov-13 10:50:19


i can help you
i LOVED my shimmer down coat but it was always a little too big and therefore draughty ( I am pro sports watching mum)

LordPalmerston Sat 02-Nov-13 10:51:03

i then got the North face one with a fur hood

I like but think the lands end one LOOKED nicer

noddyholder Sat 02-Nov-13 10:52:40

Didrikson if you can afford. Tried one and looked amazing

slalomsuki Sat 02-Nov-13 10:57:00

Another sports field mum here's s its Lands End down for me all the way. They wash and don't loose their waterproofing unlike the North Face one I had.

mateysmum Sat 02-Nov-13 10:58:52

Definitely size down on Land's End. Their stuff is not fashionable, but you can't knock the quality and the customer service is excellent.

If you order by 4/11, I have a 25% discount code - FF1325

North face one look really warm.

foxysocks Sat 02-Nov-13 11:27:16

I have a barbour one which is amazingly warm. mine is khaki but it probably comes in other colours. it doesn't have a belt - belted coats look horrific on me - and was from harrods last winter so you might be able to go and try on. let me see if I can find a link...

foxysocks Sat 02-Nov-13 11:31:57

here it is - peninsula down parka (pmsl at 'best in the country' ohhhhh if only they knew)

comes in black here

sedgieloo Sat 02-Nov-13 11:55:47

I really like that north face one but came on to recommended the didrikson Taylor it's has one of the higher tog ratings and its completely waterproof.

AHardDaysWrite Sat 02-Nov-13 12:01:27

I have the North Face Arctic parka and it is brilliant. No more cold commuting for me!

hettie Sat 02-Nov-13 12:03:38

What about when it rains?
I'd go didrikson all the way if you can afford it... they have quite a few options this winter

Deux Sat 02-Nov-13 12:04:01

I have a Didriksons Taylor in navy. It's lovely. I haven't tried in cold weather yet as it's still quite mild.

I did wear it to the supermarket run one evening and came home sweating and panting. DH was quite confused by it all.

pseudonymity Sat 02-Nov-13 12:29:19

Kudos to Amber for not buying a real fur trim.

I find that when it's really wet quite often it's not so cold. Perhaps I'm deluded and have forgotten what winter is like but the coldest days are dry to my mind, so perhaps the waterproofing isn't such an issue?

foxysocks Sat 02-Nov-13 12:31:51

i think down filled and waterproof are thin on the ground? at least they were when I was looking a few years ago. I wear a mac/umbrella combo if it's chucking it down and the barbour for clear cold days, of which we have loads.

Fluffycloudland77 Sat 02-Nov-13 12:33:48

Whenever I see a well dressed woman in a padded/quilted coat that makes look like she was a figure it's always a Barbour coat they've got on.

Snowlike Sat 02-Nov-13 12:38:15

If I wasn't expecting much rain then I'd buy a heavy wool coat - many more stylish and flattering options available - I only ever feel smug, dry and warm in my arctic parka - never stylish and I don't think anyone else does either.

foxysocks Sat 02-Nov-13 12:51:50

I couldn't wear the artic parka it would look horrific on me but I definitely feel stylish in my peninsula. and think i look pretty good too. it's showerproof but not storm proof.

wool coats are also lovely and I have a gorgeous reiss one but it fits less well with my life right now.

I've got a couple of lovely wool coats that I wear for work, but I really want something for the days I am with the kids. It doesn't need to withstand bucketing rain (I won't go out if it's pissing down and I can avoid it).

Didriksons look great for the purpose - I like the Taylor but not the little toggles

mystery thanks for linking the Artic Parka in the navy - it is exactly what I want, but now I'm facing the dilemma of the Shimmer down coat getting a good write-up from LordP and being half the price!

Hmmm, what to do, what to do.

Foxy I really like yours but a belt is marginally better for me being a short hourglass not a rangy supermodel type like you.

TripTrapTripTrapOverTheBridge Sat 02-Nov-13 13:00:38

If you just want warm just go for wool.It amazes me how many people think a coat needs to be padded (and fugly) to be warm.Wool coats are fab.

However,if you want something you can wear for a good while in the rain (wool will stop you getting wet but the coat needs to dry out naturally after and can sometimes smell!oh,and possibly become heavy if you've just spent time in heavy rain!) then look for something waterproof (but not poofy!)

mysteryfairy Sat 02-Nov-13 13:04:01

Can you last til Xmas sales? You'll probably pick up the Barbour for a lot less then. I bought a lands end parka before I bought a Barbour (with 50% off in sale) but the fit was just so terrible it was a complete waste of money - worn for one weekend.

sedgieloo Sat 02-Nov-13 13:07:41

I looked at the didrikson greta, no toggles or patch pockets but it was out of my budget. You may prefer it too. Tog rating isn't as high as the Taylor however.


hettie Sat 02-Nov-13 13:12:23

OP The thing about those down coats is that you can't even get them a bit wet... (wouldn't be any good in even a light shower). There are more technical coats that are down filled (north face and jack wolfskin for example). If you intend not getting wet then I like the barbour one

North Face arctic parka has weird seam under bum so I ruled that early on (have ample rump).

Hmmm, it's tricky. I don't spend a great deal of time getting wet as I won't go to the park etc if it looks like rain. That said I, like everyone, occasionally misjudge it and get caught in a shower. Barbour Arctic Parka owners - how does it fare in the rain?

LordPalmerston Sat 02-Nov-13 15:07:15

I have Arctic. I never noticed.

LordPalmerston Sat 02-Nov-13 15:07:38

Oh god. If you're not in fields all weekend then do land send

Abzs Sat 02-Nov-13 18:23:16

[[ http://www.jack-wolfskin.co.uk/apparel/women/all-jackets/synthetic-fill-jackets/1201221-iceguard-coat.aspx Jack Wolf skin Iceguard]]
Water resistant outer fabric and synthetic filling, so will cope with getting caught out in the rain. Shape is not quite so fitted as the north face you first linked to though.

Snowlike Sat 02-Nov-13 18:27:09

Intrigued by the weird seam under bum in the arctic parka - will investigate when I return home because I've never noticed. This weekend I'm wearing a down coat from the Theory & Uniqlo collaboration, it is nowhere near as warm as the arctic parka and yet has the same fill rating. confused

weird seam here

Abzs that's not bad at all actually, but I've now decided I want a (synthetic) furry hood.

It's striking that balance between function and aesthetics that's so hard isn't it? especially when you're as shallow as me

LordPalmerston Sat 02-Nov-13 18:54:43

Furry hood vital

LordPalmerston Sat 02-Nov-13 18:56:15

Just went to look at mine. There's an elasticated waist. Then the seam bit it would be top of your thighs I think. Id never noticed if

MrsCampbellBlack Sat 02-Nov-13 19:00:23

I've worn my barbour for the last 2 winters, in rain, snow and wind and found it fine. But I don't walk for miles a day so don't know how it would fare in torrential rain for long periods.

I do however stand around outside a lot waiting for children etc.

If I had loads of dosh I'd go for moncler.

I also have wool coats but they just aren't as warm as down filled ones for watching sports matches etc.

PatoBanton Sat 02-Nov-13 19:02:35

have got didriksons taylor here and it is LUSH except have got a long neck and the hood is a bit confustulating

v warm but not TOO warm in shops

not yet anyway

size DOWN though

PatoBanton Sat 02-Nov-13 19:03:14

My barbour winter utility lets water in at the elbows.

LordPalmerston Sat 02-Nov-13 19:27:27

i am due to be in a field tomorrow all day with s3 watching flippen rugby

I will feedback - forecast is dire

I finally managed to procure my driving licence (6th time's a charm) this summer so my days of walking miles in the rain are over!

Yes, LordP furry hood is vital, and the Eurotrash in me is leaning towards a shiny finish. So it's between Lands End and Barbour. Hmmmm.

Cast your votes now!

slalomsuki Sat 02-Nov-13 19:58:57

My Lands End down filled coat is waterproof and drys quickly. Can't link it as its a couple of years old but they will tell you in the description what weather it's designed for and if the seams are taped.

ebaymad Sat 02-Nov-13 20:20:43

I love the Barbour!

If it was closer to £200 i would be very tempted.

Would last forever...

LeFreakCestChic Sat 02-Nov-13 20:24:48

Can I briefly hijack amber?

Am agonising between two Didriksons either Taylor or Greta quite reluctant to spend ££ on non fashion am a size 12-14, can anyone advise on sizing? And v keen not to look like I'm wearing an anorak, do the look Gor tex-y..?

Abzs Sat 02-Nov-13 20:41:34

Furry hood essential? Then may I offer these options?

I'm hankering after a 5th Avenue, but there's no way I can justify it given how many coats I already own.

RubyLovesShopping Sat 02-Nov-13 21:41:30

Hi amber I have the north face arctic for school/sports/park etc and it def doesn't have that weird seam is that a photo of a previous years style? It's very frumpy but does keep me dry and warm. Saw some for 215 recently in the grey.

SavoyCabbage Sat 02-Nov-13 22:11:24

I love that Greta Sedgie.

There is another thread in S&B leFreak that says that if you are getting one from the old stock/last season you need to order a size down but this years are all true to size.

Where are you getting your Greta, if you get one?

Deux Sun 03-Nov-13 00:10:59

Re sizing for the Taylor. I'm a size 10 mostly, occassional 12 and I have a 38. It is a good fit.

I tried the 36 but it was too tight though zipped up fine. They seem to be quite roomy around the bust and shoulder area but quite slim fit over the hips. Sleeves are longish but fine for me.

There does seem to be some confusion over sizing. Apparently Didriksons have altered their sizing. Beware though as some retailers are marking the 38 as a 10 and some as a 12. So go by the continental size. I wouldn't size down on this season's stock based on my experiences.

LordPalmerston Sun 03-Nov-13 03:20:56

I don't feel frumpy in lands end or northface. Honest. It's a cold weather coat. shrugs

Twinklestarstwinklestars Sun 03-Nov-13 03:28:35

After getting sick of freezing and soaked on school runs I invested in a didriksons Veronica and its lovely, well worth the money.

OrchidLass Sun 03-Nov-13 07:11:11

Can anyone advise on Didrikson sizing please, I'm a 14/16 and unsure if they come up true to size or not.

PatoBanton Sun 03-Nov-13 08:23:59

Oh sorry listen to Deux
I wasn't sure if the new sizing was just a rumour

I am a standard issue 10 and have big norks atm and the 36 (8) is perfect but it was last season's stock, I am sure

sedgieloo Sun 03-Nov-13 08:29:43

Savoy and greta - I got the Taylor as warmer and cheaper than the greta. I'm more than pleased with it. Sizing wise...I'm comfortably a 10 in somewhere like zara, a snug 10 in topshop and I'm tall. I got the 36 which is an 8. It's fitted on me with room for just a couple of thin jumpers layered. The 38 was a little looser and a more casual fit and at first seemed perfect, but I liked the fitted look of the 8. The material has a cotton rich look and feel rather than synthetic. This years model they are more true to size, if last years size down. Laws of Kirkcudbright had the best price and next day delivery. Hope that helps.

PatoBanton Sun 03-Nov-13 08:34:18

Ooh minewas from Laws

PatoBanton Sun 03-Nov-13 08:34:51

have they got new stock then, got the last 36 few months ago

PatoBanton Sun 03-Nov-13 08:36:25

Ooh they have! smile

Must be as price gone up but still cheapest anywhere I think

the purple is very purple and doesn't suit me terribly well but was all they had left, dk green and navy tres nice

LordPalmerston Sun 03-Nov-13 08:37:40

pato - who were you before?

noddyholder Sun 03-Nov-13 08:38:03

I don't think they are frumpy either. They are fit for purpose like bikinis on beaches. I have a lovely berghaus and a north face and feel ok in both. Would love a moncler but too £ I like these coats though think they look nice too

PatoBanton Sun 03-Nov-13 08:42:57

FA in the old days smile

Abzs Sun 03-Nov-13 12:30:08

I would have sized a scandinavian 36 as a 10 when it was up to me. We had 'fun' sizing, and explaining the sizing of, the clothing depending on whether it was british, french, italian, scandinavian or american. But since I'm not WOH post DS, I haven't had chance to see any new season Didriksons (and what we had when I was was mostly kids) so I've no idea if that still holds true.

Of course I now want a Didrikson Lindsay which I can't find in my size for love nor money.

noddyholder Sun 03-Nov-13 13:16:20

I love those!

LordPalmerston Sun 03-Nov-13 16:03:34

i just spent 5 hours in rain, hail and wind. my northface was snug as a flippen bug

the hood looked ace and i was chatted up.

RE sult

LordPalmerston Sun 03-Nov-13 16:04:18

saw a moncler - they are VILE - like shiny bin bga

LordP what is North Face sizing like?

LordPalmerston Sun 03-Nov-13 16:52:35

im a 12 with tits

noddyholder Sun 03-Nov-13 16:57:34

I tried a moncler on wasn't shiny though Navy matt and fitted but price ridiculous

LordPalmerston Sun 03-Nov-13 17:06:36

sorry and My coat is a nice and close fitting M

ill check

Ok and what size do you have? 12 top bottom or both? I am 10/12. Small top despite boobs but hippy. I hate dressing my shape. I\d guess Medium?

Ah x post thanks. Sometimes I'm fatter than I think I am and sometimes I get it the other way round ya know?

ouryve Sun 03-Nov-13 17:12:32

Is this the Lands End one?

It's nice, it's machine washable and water resistant (I noticed some people have doubts) and the reviews are good - and it's 25% off, at the moment!

ouryve Sun 03-Nov-13 17:13:37

And I noticed from one of the reviews that it's one of their lines that isn't extremely generously sized.

loraflora Sun 03-Nov-13 17:36:49

I haven't had any problem with rain and my Land's End down parka - it's certainly been out in rain but not for a prolonged period of time. Usually when I need it most it's been on crisp cold days. It's very warm.

noddyholder Sun 03-Nov-13 17:41:57

What about if you don't need performance but like the look Are any of the cheaper ones warm? I have 2 but short ish

BringMeTea Sun 03-Nov-13 18:41:54

Someone asked upthread about Didrikson's sizing. I am in Scandinavia and tried on Taylor, greta and another one I forget recently. Was shocked to find they came up v small on the chestal region. I am a 12/14 uk but with big boobs. I had read lots of reviews saying size down. This season at least do NOT do that. The Taylor was worst offender. I think i was up to 46 before it fit boobs with no strain.

My Didriksons Taylor did nicely for 6 hours at the rugby festival today. It is replacing my LandsEnd shimmer down coat which has done 5 or 6 years. New one is more waterproof but doesn't feel so snug. However, my legs were chilly in jeans today- body and bum toasty warm.

Oh, in case you need help with sizing on Didriksons, I am a comfortable 14 (closer to 16 than 12). The 42 fits well, can put jumpers underneath.

LittleTulip Sun 03-Nov-13 19:48:45

The north face arctic parka was a little too long for me cos in a short arse, I have this it's go the same down filling.

I wear a medium I'm a 12-14

nomorebooze Sun 03-Nov-13 20:15:35
LordPalmerston Sun 03-Nov-13 20:38:33

think the north face is a bit more water resistant than my lands end one
by that i mean hail and torrential rain for 5 hours in a field watching rubgy

Thought you all may like to know about a Blacks discount code just used Friends20 ..worked on an already discounted Northface triclinate coat for DH just got it for £120 when originally £150 reduced from £200!

LordPalmerston Sun 03-Nov-13 21:54:26


Loopytiles Sun 03-Nov-13 22:26:12

They're all so pricey! And am not slim. Would really like one under £150 and below knee for commuting!

OrchidLass Mon 04-Nov-13 09:01:43

Ah I wish I'd never seen this thread i'm so desperate for a Didrikson now and can't decide between the Taylor and the Lindsay. Plus, they are bloody expensive so it would have to last me a loooooong time! smile

chartreuse Mon 04-Nov-13 12:08:36

I have a lands end stadium squall for when it's snowing, but most days I wear the J Crew Wintress in navy, toasty warm, fairly stylish. J crew opening in Regent St this week so you could have a try on.

There is no way a wool coat would keep me warm in winter. My wool coats are for spring and autumn only.

UPDATE: i went for a try on this morning. The Aigle Cuckmere (they sell it sans fur) was very warm but looked mumsy on me due to length, plus I really do want a furry hood, just not a real one. The North Face was gorgously warm and a nice purple, but too plain for me (I like a bit of flashy hardware), so I have ordered the Barbour. Will report back.

LordPalmerston Mon 04-Nov-13 20:40:56


LordPalmerston Mon 04-Nov-13 20:42:20

actually its ok - just too short for extreme weather

MIND YOU amber - what actually do you need it for? ;)

Standing around at the park on my terms (ie no snow or rain). If/when DS gets involved in sports when standing outside is needed and I can't send his dad I will get a proper sports-mum coat. Did like the Lands End a lot but big tits + big arse - belt = brick.

LordPalmerston Mon 04-Nov-13 21:00:42

Lol. You weakling. grin

I'll offer you 5 hours in cold every Bloody Sunday.

And I will respectfully decline. That is the only good thing to be said about life with two toddlers - indoor soft play.

Because I know you've all been waiting with baited breath, my Barbour arrived and I fricking love it. Got caught in the pissing rain and was snug as a bug.

Special thanks to mysteryfairy who made me aware of the existence of the navy!

ebaymad Fri 08-Nov-13 22:43:31

I've been waiting Amber blush

I'm slightly obsessed with it...

What's the sizing like?

I actually got a 12, as opposed to my usual 10. Could probably have got the 10, but it may have been a smidge snug on the busy, plus I like room for a jumper or two...

Bust, obvs.

ebaymad Fri 08-Nov-13 22:50:16

Good to know.

I'm trying to hold off buying it until there's a sale (and I'm skint)

Thanks for the update and enjoy!

Fluffycloudland77 Sat 09-Nov-13 08:10:25

Which Barbour did you get? I want a non frumpy coat too.

I look beyond awful in my musto coat.

I need a coat intervention sad

I got the Arctic parka in navy. It's lovely!

Fluffycloudland77 Sat 09-Nov-13 09:08:26

Thank you, it's lovely. I like the cream.....

IRL cream is kind of pale gold. Really lovely, but does nothing for my yellow skin tone sadly

BranchingOut Sat 09-Nov-13 09:23:51

Signing in here as I am also on this quest.

Fluffycloudland77 Sat 09-Nov-13 09:25:51

The brown trims putting me off the cream.

And the price grin

Snowbility Sat 09-Nov-13 09:44:51

The Arctic Parka looks awful on the model though - like it's their child's coat....way too short, and the belt pulled tight in the middle is hideous. I wonder how tall she is?

I tried one on was bit dubious but very flattering but too hot for me doesn't stop me looking though grin

SilverSixpence Sat 09-Nov-13 09:53:23

I love my Selected Femme parka its cozy and flattering. I still do wonder if I need a down coat though for when its really freezing..

It's mid thigh on me (5'4) and I went up a size as it is a neat fit. That means the belt looked more cinched and less strained.

Snowbility Sat 09-Nov-13 10:56:01

Mid thigh sounds a better length - I'm hourglass and although we're meant to, I can never pull off the belted look...I have no idea why.

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