charles saatchi aside ( fgs) - susannah constantine - 2003 called - it wants its jeans back

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LordPalmerston Wed 30-Oct-13 17:35:03

I know the jeans are bad but they do pale in comparison with the excuse for a human being that is Saatchi.

TripTrapTripTrapOverTheBridge Wed 30-Oct-13 18:14:37

Oh come on,the jeans aren't that bad! Not everyone likes or wants skinny jeans.Not many people actually look good in them..

As for Charles Saatchi,what is she thinking???

All that aside,Trinny is looking fab!

thepurplepenguin Wed 30-Oct-13 18:17:28

Ye gods...

Urgh to all of them.

Took me half the article to work out who was shagging who.

bundaberg Wed 30-Oct-13 18:26:57

fucking hell trinny!! seriously???

isn't that the same actual table?

i can't; even look at the clothes, i'm that shocked

LordPalmerston Wed 30-Oct-13 18:27:47

Thd colours trinny is wearing are nice. Susannah is a little equine

bundaberg Wed 30-Oct-13 18:27:57

why is he holding susanna
like that in the first couple of pics?

LordPalmerston Wed 30-Oct-13 18:29:41

He's a reet weirdo.

Fillybuster Wed 30-Oct-13 18:30:35

On the one hand I'm mortally offended by the bad taste shown.

On the other, the jeans are the least of the problem I have with these pics....

LordPalmerston Wed 30-Oct-13 18:31:10

Well yes. What's come over them ?!

A trifle equestrian my brother used to say....

Are these women stupid or what? Do they not pay attention to the outside world or don't they care? The man is a proven wankbadger.

Marylou2 Wed 30-Oct-13 18:36:26

Ewww! Bunch of freaks! Lucky escape for the lovely Nigella.

I suppose Trinny's statement ^necklace ^will come in handy when she's attempting to distract from the neck bruises arising from one of Saatchi's throttling sessions.

CharlotteBronteSaurus Wed 30-Oct-13 18:42:57

nice leopard shoes though - I wonder if they're the Boden ones?

LordPalmerston Wed 30-Oct-13 18:46:38

Lol. Thread a mixture of fashion deliberation and horror at them befriending an abuser

Onesleeptillwembley Wed 30-Oct-13 18:46:44

For people that used to advise on sartorial matters, Trinny and Tranny have done themselves no favours.
I have no words for the rest. Well I do, but if I start I won't stop!

Merguez Wed 30-Oct-13 18:49:26

Nothing wrong with the jeans for someone of that age.

LordPalmerston Wed 30-Oct-13 18:50:05

Lol. She's not sixty !! "Her age" ?!

BasilBabyEater Wed 30-Oct-13 18:50:24

Is she actually smoking in one of those photos?


Isn't that incredibly downmarket for her?

LordPalmerston Wed 30-Oct-13 18:53:14

The comments were (when I last looked ) actually quite funny

Merguez Wed 30-Oct-13 18:54:01

No. same age as me, roughly. I love my boot cuts and never wear skinnies.

PrimalLass Wed 30-Oct-13 18:55:26

Does he never go anywhere else?

PatoBanton Wed 30-Oct-13 18:59:49

Oh good lord.

what the patootie do they think they're doing?

It's SusannaH as well

the man is a TWAT

how hurtful would that be for Nigella to see those photos..


Trinny is v v pretty. Susannah, erm...I think the shirt is the worst bit of the outfit, and that's including the awful jacket.

dexter73 Wed 30-Oct-13 19:06:51

Lifted from the comments - Susannah's jacket is actually from their Trinny and Susannah range on QVC. So if you do 'want the look', you can buy the exact same one.

I am defo going on QVC to have a look at their range of clothes!!grin

dexter73 Wed 30-Oct-13 19:08:47

Mmm - these are nice

Onesleeptillwembley Wed 30-Oct-13 19:11:22

I actually think the inadequate twat is making a point by going there and finding someone new to go with and get in the papers. The dim woman is probably flattered by the attention, not realising she's being used.

VivaLeBeaver Wed 30-Oct-13 19:12:42

I think he only has one suit and it's very badly fitted.

Not bothered about her jeans, I still wear bootcuts sometimes. I hear they're coming back in now!

NigellasGhost Wed 30-Oct-13 19:18:38

oh no, I don't like Suze's jeans

Ooh Dexter - great trousers. grin

Raddy Wed 30-Oct-13 19:23:23

Lord, those jeans are an abomination.

Jux Wed 30-Oct-13 19:31:53

I'm not bothered whether the jeans are skinny, bellbottom or bootcut. What bothers me is how awful they look around the hips and thighs. The rest of the outfil is dire too. Is this the one who is not shagging the Creep? Maybe her vile and unflattering outfit is a reflection of how she feels about having to spend time with such a shit. "I'll go for your sake, friend, and I'll go for the food, but don't expect me to waste time trying to look nice for it."

Those trousers that dexter linked to are ONLY £63. And 95% polyester. It's a wonder they haven't sold out or given anyone thrush

LordPalmerston Wed 30-Oct-13 20:04:58

People have been saying they're coming in every year this century

FaddyPeony Wed 30-Oct-13 20:11:02

Trinny looks fab.

<hates self>

brandyandsummergloves Wed 30-Oct-13 20:11:37

I'm a bit of a fan of bootcut jeans I have to say. Feel slimmer in them than in skinnies. Not keen on the metallic jacket though.

Honestly, if you were Trinny BFF wouldn't you be advising her to steer clear?

2013go Wed 30-Oct-13 20:17:42

It's Suze's shirt that is really offensive.

Oh no, hang on, it's the fact they're willing members of the abuser's narcissistic harem that's offensive.

AND the right wing politics.

Ugh, ugh and ugh.

Trinny's outfit is ace though

DameDoom Wed 30-Oct-13 20:52:56

Susannah has great, great, great legs - the rest is very Fergie - not the Blackeyed Pea ...t'other one.

PrimalLass Wed 30-Oct-13 20:59:39

Maybe they believe "THE REASON". It is fairly easily findable with 30s of Googling.

wasabipeanut Wed 30-Oct-13 21:08:09

Christ those jeans are awful. In fact the whole ensemble makes her look like she belongs in my local Mum club on 2 for 1 cocktails night surrounded by a load of portly ladies in Per Una.

I am however significantly more appalled by the hobnobbing with Saatchi in the first place. How can any woman socialise with an abusive bastard like that and so publicly too? <shakes head>

mignonnette Wed 30-Oct-13 21:13:57

Laughing at the description 'Fashion Advisor'. Trinny's brains and common sense has clearly been displaced by all the fillers and botox.

She does however have a rather dysfunctional history of relationships with damaged or addicted men.

Susannah is just one of those 'well meaning jolly women who are a bit 'Tim Nice but Dim'. She went out with Linley FFS who is thicker than the wood he is usually found carving.

LordPalmerston Wed 30-Oct-13 21:47:55

Primal link

JoanRanger Thu 31-Oct-13 06:19:50

Are we really bitching out women for wearing non-skinny jeans now?

I knew I couldn't buy any jeans that WEREN'T skinny but I didn't know we'd crossed over into publicly shaming miscreants now.

MrsCampbellBlack Thu 31-Oct-13 06:26:56

I've always had a bit of a soft spot for trinny and susannah - they were lovely when they came on here for a webchat (and you know answered my questions)

And I would really like to know the name of Trinny's botox/filler doctor.

But as for the photographs with Saatchi - oh dear.

merrymouse Thu 31-Oct-13 06:27:01

I think they can't go anywhere else because they wouldn't be allowed to smoke. They are doing the equivalent of hanging out by the fire escape but posher.

LordPalmerston Thu 31-Oct-13 06:44:40

Her face isn't that amazing. What is she? Mid 40s?

MrsCampbellBlack Thu 31-Oct-13 06:58:53

She used to have very bad skin so its a lot better than it was.

LordPalmerston Thu 31-Oct-13 07:03:03

Oh I see

GrandstandingBlueTit Thu 31-Oct-13 07:18:13

Agree with Jux, it's not the bottom of the jeans that's the problem, it's the top of them.

LordPalmerston Thu 31-Oct-13 07:19:55

The groin.

It's trying to escape

Merrylegs Thu 31-Oct-13 07:30:58

Isn't this just a bizarre Trinny and Suze fashion shoot? I mean the photographer is practically in their laps. He almost gets an invite through the front door and all they seem to consume is one glass of wine between them.

GrandstandingBlueTit Thu 31-Oct-13 07:33:09

And act as if they're totally oblivious to the photographer's presence. grin Hilarious.

LifeofPo Thu 31-Oct-13 07:35:32

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LifeofPo Thu 31-Oct-13 07:38:54

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PoppyAmex Thu 31-Oct-13 07:39:59

Didn't Trinny suffer from very low self-esteem and had confidence issues all her life?

I seem to remember her past relationships being fraught with unhappiness.

Seems like CS targeted her. Poor woman.

JustAnotherFucker Thu 31-Oct-13 07:56:47

Joan we are discussing her fashion faux-pas on S&B with regards the jeans.

They are awful, I agree its as if her groin is trying to escape grin

LifeofPo Thu 31-Oct-13 07:59:54

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NigellasGhost Thu 31-Oct-13 08:21:34

there's something cheap looking about Trinny's shoes - must try harder!
especially for a pre-arranged photo op

I think Trinny is 49 BTW

LordPalmerston Thu 31-Oct-13 08:32:04

Lol at po

mignonnette Thu 31-Oct-13 08:33:43

This is a pap set up. They are planning a come back and the carefully arranged 'opportunistic shots' whilst wearing the QVC clothing range is all part of it.

I guarantee there will be an announcement shortly about a new show/website/book/tell all bio.....

Truly cynical. And some people will fall for it.

BTW In the later photos was Susannah subconsciously re-enacting the Nigella neck grip? Looks weird.

noddyholder Thu 31-Oct-13 08:33:46

Surely the death knell for the jeans and silky shirt mum uniform. All looks too small for her frame. Awful.

dexter73 Thu 31-Oct-13 08:48:46

I used to love 'What Not to Wear' and it did make me look at what I was wearing and find a more flattering wardrobe. I think it was much better at the start of the series before they got into all the boob grabbing though.

NigellasGhost Thu 31-Oct-13 08:49:04

I think Trinny should have worn patent shoes but I like the coat on her.
Yes mignon I noticed the neck-grip re-enactment - weird.

The bad jeans one has a face made for sweating next to an aga shouting at the hounds grin grin

I must be the only one here then who actually thinks Susanna looks good in her outfit. Just because skinny jeans are in fashion does not mean that people should wear them if they don't suit. Her jeans may not be to other people's taste but they fit her and flatter her body IMO. Even though I'm a size 10 with slim legs, anything that fits tightly from my arse to my ankles makes my thighs look so much chunkier than they are, so I only wear boot-cut jeans because they suit me much better.

As a feminist I believe women should be able to wear what they want without risking being on the receiving end of bitchy comments about their appearance. I want to wear my boot-cut jeans without being judged by bitchy fashionistas. God I hate the fashion and beauty industry, it really does help bring out the worst in women. Sorry for the rant, I'm actually shocked at myself for how angry this thread is making me...I shall withdraw back into my hole (wearing my hideous and unfashionable clothes, LOL).

Bonsoir Thu 31-Oct-13 08:51:46

Trinny has a lot in common with Nigella.

LordPalmerston Thu 31-Oct-13 08:53:38

As a feminist.


That's as bad as "as a mother "

NigellasGhost Thu 31-Oct-13 08:54:00

But Livid, T&S are archetypal "bitchy fashionistas" themselves aren't they. Who never hesitated to judge the women who came on their shows. And this is S&B after all...

ElizabethBathory Thu 31-Oct-13 08:54:15

I'd like Trinny's outfit a lot without the huge medallion.

LordPalmerston Thu 31-Oct-13 08:54:57

I don't think looking good is anti feminist. And the idea that women should bond in this warm flow if sisterhood is ludicrous. (Ask any sisters!)

LordPalmerston Thu 31-Oct-13 08:55:56

Shit. Why does everything come down to feminism on this site these days?
You'd never have had a go at gina ford. Or sherehzde thingy.

sassytheFIRST Thu 31-Oct-13 08:57:12

"The bad jeans one has a face made for sweating next to an aga shouting at the hounds"

ARF at this

thepaintedladies Thu 31-Oct-13 08:57:13

No matter what Susannah wears, she still looks mumsy.

ElizabethBathory Thu 31-Oct-13 08:57:45

I think the point is they make their living from being "style gurus". They'd be disappointed if we didn't notice their clothes, surely.

Susannah has very slim legs and a bigger top half, she might feel they look a bit spindly in skinny jeans.

LordPalmerston Thu 31-Oct-13 08:59:05

Oh I think trunky legs. She needs a burka ;)

sassytheFIRST Thu 31-Oct-13 08:59:41

Clearly a showmance this one. NOt sure what's up with the BFF tho - some kind of over-exposed, slightly horsey threesome? Neigh!

Leopoldina Thu 31-Oct-13 09:00:12

are people really unaware of Saatchi's version of events? based on having see photographs only & not any actual throttling, and the speed at which the marriage unravelled afterwards plus the identity of the girl he's seeing now, it seems actually very plausible (& I am no abuse apologist)

mignonnette Thu 31-Oct-13 09:01:29

I like a boot cut jean. And i am really into fashion. I hate the cosmentic surgery vultures that prey on Women filling their face with lumps of god knows what and injecting chemicals into a face that was perfectly decent before.

Trinny's lips and face in the cold light of day post surgery/filler/botox is terrible to see. A pretty woman who has succumbed to the embalmed look sadly.

LordPalmerston Thu 31-Oct-13 09:01:35

Sassy. I lolled too

Omg. Are they.. Like... A threesome? [hgrin]

LordPalmerston Thu 31-Oct-13 09:02:12

I've no idea of his version

buss Thu 31-Oct-13 09:04:28

Just how does Trinny keep that coat hanging off her shoulders the whole time?
Is it just really heavy like armour - made from actual chainmail perhaps?

sassytheFIRST Thu 31-Oct-13 09:04:49

I don't know what he says either. I should be too dignified to care but... grin

Leopoldina Thu 31-Oct-13 09:04:57

oddly he may not be the demon he's been portrayed as, which is as surprising to me as if Robin Thicke turned out to be a committed feminist who volunteered in a women's shelter in his spare time.

LordPalmerston Thu 31-Oct-13 09:08:11

Robin thicke. Go him.

LordPalmerston Thu 31-Oct-13 09:08:29

Buss - blu tack

MarshaBrady Thu 31-Oct-13 09:09:25

It's funny that they need each other like this. Who'd have thought it ten or so years ago. What a motley crue.

Trinny does look better these days, S looks a bit squashed.

Lol at aga and hounds.

LifeofPo Thu 31-Oct-13 09:17:45

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noddyholder Thu 31-Oct-13 09:18:46

Hahaha Po

LordPalmerston Thu 31-Oct-13 09:26:08

i walked past a book charity thing yesterday with an ancient Cliff biog on a pile outside. walked back an hour later to buy for a mate and it was GONE shock

sassytheFIRST Thu 31-Oct-13 09:29:06

"for a mate" yeah, whatevs.

You LURVES him.

LordPalmerston Thu 31-Oct-13 09:29:45

I might have erm flicked through it ..

LifeofPo Thu 31-Oct-13 09:31:43

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"I don't think looking good is anti feminist. And the idea that women should bond in this warm flow if sisterhood is ludicrous"

I don't think looking good is anti-feminst either LP. I also don't expect women to bond as a sisterhood either (girlie group hugs are not my scene). Sometimes bitchiness really gets to me (it's one of those streotypical horrible female traits which invites comments like "I get on much better with men that women as women are so bitchy!"). Anyway, it's obviously one of those days and one of those trigger threads I really should've ignored.

"Shit. Why does everything come down to feminism on this site these days?"
It doesn't.

LordPalmerston Thu 31-Oct-13 09:33:13

Thanks for dm Leo

eggyweggies Thu 31-Oct-13 09:34:44

Can someone with saatchi's side of the story please pm me? Pretty please?

EyeOfNewtBigtoesOfFrog Thu 31-Oct-13 09:36:50

Oh god embarrassing. I can totally see why he would want to be pictured going to the same restaurant with a new "glamorous" bird hanging off his arm – his MO is clearly vindictive judging by his moves so far - but why, why would Trinny play along? Ugh. How many red flags?

I am laughing thinking of Saatchi thinking that Nigella will see this and feel soooooo sad and lonely and missing out. They look like such a sorry and sordid show while Nigella has her dignity and poise intact.

PrimalLass Thu 31-Oct-13 09:37:53

As a feminist I believe women should be able to wear what they want without risking being on the receiving end of bitchy comments about their appearance.

As she got famous but making bitchy remarks about what people wear, it's a bit stones and glass houses.

LifeofPo Thu 31-Oct-13 09:39:04

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LordPalmerston Thu 31-Oct-13 09:40:43

It is quite interesting. Ill dm later. On phone

EyeOfNewtBigtoesOfFrog Thu 31-Oct-13 09:41:05

He would have to have a pretty mindboggling sob story to justify dragging his new woman to the same restaurant table where he was pictured throttling his old one for a set-up photoshoot.

Whatever happened between him and Nigella, that is gross.

PrimalLass Thu 31-Oct-13 09:43:10

Yes, I am. As I said above, if "THE REASON" (note the "") is true, then it changes the story a lot. Easy to find with a quick google.

Leopoldina Thu 31-Oct-13 09:44:02

the photos of him and Trinny at Scotts have been going on for weeks. He must eat there every day and go out to smoke without giving the tiniest fuck as to whether he's photographed. Astounding arrogance. Trinny may well believe she's "supporting him".

sassytheFIRST Thu 31-Oct-13 09:44:07

PM for me too pls

mignonnette Thu 31-Oct-13 09:46:32

And me for PM too smile Pretty Please?

MarshaBrady Thu 31-Oct-13 09:48:24

And me please.

Leopoldina Thu 31-Oct-13 09:51:10

oh. there's a news blog online by Richard Hillgrove that sets it out in rather more detail than I was aware of.

eggyweggies Thu 31-Oct-13 09:57:24

I have to say, that's utterly ridiculous

trixymalixy Thu 31-Oct-13 09:57:53

Have googled but none the wiser. Please could someone pm me?

MarshaBrady Thu 31-Oct-13 10:00:13

What a load of absolute tosh.

Leopoldina Thu 31-Oct-13 10:01:05

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Google not finding anything new for me either.

At the moment the official position seems to be that CS says NL promised him something ten years ago and that she failed to fulfill that promise, and that her failure to do what she promised was so major that it caused him to strangle her, divorce her and try to destroy her career.
At the time he described the incident as a playful tiff and a minor disagreement.

If it was that bad, he could have just divorced her without the whole strangling bit, couldn't he?

eggyweggies Thu 31-Oct-13 10:06:37

Nigella's never been an addict.

It's just one sad man on the internet's fantasies about how it's always the woman's fault and she deserved it, poor menz blah blah blah.

A misogynist on the Internet?? Whatever next?

Levantine Thu 31-Oct-13 10:11:13

That hillgrove thing is the biggest pile of poo ever. Really.

MsBouvier Thu 31-Oct-13 10:14:58

I was going to start a thread about this. The whole thing makes me want to puke. Trinny sidling around like Cruella DeVille smirking at the shockingness of it all.

I rarely give a shit what celebrities are doing, but this is a betrayal of the sisterhood, man. As is the concept of two rahs doling out heinous fashion advice to people much much poorer than they.

Bonsoir Thu 31-Oct-13 10:16:10

I suspect that Nigella has a few issues with food...

There is also reporting that says CS's daughter feels abandoned by NL as NL was a mother to her throughout her growing up. If there was any truth in the Hillgrove blog - you'd think that CS and his family would be relieved that NL was out of their lives.

MsBouvier Thu 31-Oct-13 10:21:31

Mmm. Just googled 'the reason'. Maybe that's why he stuck his thumb up her nose too. Just 'what any loving husband would do...'

mignonnette Thu 31-Oct-13 10:23:48

Phoebe has a perfectly good Mother in Kay Saatchi and Nigella I am sure would not describe herself as Phoebes Mother.

mignonnette Thu 31-Oct-13 10:28:13

Even if it was true, as somebody who has worked with this kind of client group, never have I had to 'grasp a persons neck to help them refocus'.

Anyway if it was a secret life kept hidden from CS, why would he be 'helping her refocus'?

mignonnette - probably not but that hasn't stopped people criticising her for abandoning her DSD. There does seem to be an attempt to smear every part of her life and behaviour.

LifeofPo Thu 31-Oct-13 10:32:13

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LordPalmerston Thu 31-Oct-13 10:33:58

food was not it Bonsoir

LordPalmerston Thu 31-Oct-13 10:34:10

christ, I have morphed into Yoda

LifeofPo Thu 31-Oct-13 10:46:18

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SandyDilbert Thu 31-Oct-13 10:51:01

I hope for Trinny's sake this is a publicity stunt and that she isn't actually involved with him.

I do think their QVC range is hideous.

MarshaBrady Thu 31-Oct-13 10:53:03

Thanks for pm.

That blog does ramble like a conspiracy theorist, but now I'm hmm.

OiVaVoi Thu 31-Oct-13 10:55:27

Might explain the dramatic weight loss

noddyholder Thu 31-Oct-13 10:57:26

Most slebs do

Jux Thu 31-Oct-13 10:58:31

Could someone send me a pm? I have read the Hillgrove thing and it's ludicrous; I can't find anything else though, and I don't know what any of you are talking about (weep wail).

I was OK at the start of the thread when it was about badly fitting jeans, agas and hounds, but now .........?

Please someone, feel sorry for me and explain!

mignonnette Thu 31-Oct-13 11:00:43

Nigella Lawson has a prodigious work output and a steady consistent work ethic.

Kind of hard when you have a chronic Cocaine addiction. Not that I am saying she has by the way.

I admire Nigella enormously.

trixymalixy Thu 31-Oct-13 11:02:04

Just read that blog <<snort>>. With derision, not anything else...

MrsOsbourne Thu 31-Oct-13 11:20:38

Just read that blog<< snort>>
I have just snorted so loudly the cat jumped!

mammadiggingdeep Thu 31-Oct-13 11:30:48


It can't be true can it?? Sounds like a made up story to try to justify his prickish behaviour.

Second shock of the thread is that trinny and susannah have a range on QVC....really?!

aliciaflorrick Thu 31-Oct-13 12:11:28

Oh that blog is hilarious - installed a fragrance making machine. In my house that's called an air freshener.

Leopoldina Thu 31-Oct-13 12:17:11

chronic cocaine addiction? where on earth did you project that from? occasional party girl is not the same as "chronic addiction" and even so, many "chronic addicts" do maintain a steady professional life. Hlaf the world's ad agencies would be closed if not for starters.

PoppyAmex Thu 31-Oct-13 12:49:10

That blog is utter rubbish - it's such a shitty way to try to turn the "story" on her.

If you remember correctly, he has given 3 different versions of the event now from "playful tiff" to "she only cared about her career in the US".

It doesn't cease to amaze me how crap CS is managing his own public image, considering his Advertising/PR background.

Jux Thu 31-Oct-13 14:25:54

Thank you for the PMs thanks

I feel very hmm about the addiction. I used to work 20 hour days, 6or 7 days a week, for years. Constant running around, constant problem solving. I know there were some people who thought I was taking coke to keep going but actually I lived on tea and cigarettes. I just found my life so exciting, stimulating and fun that I didn't need anything else.

LifeofPo Thu 31-Oct-13 14:42:24

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Those jeans look rubbish on Suz they make her thighs look odd..anyway about the other stuff I think it is rubbish!

wordfactory Thu 31-Oct-13 15:08:25

I'm sorry but am I the only one going grin !

The sheer delicious absurdity of Nigella and her kids sitting around burning the 'erb every night grin grin...and them being so fecking rich the staff did the rolling grin grin grin.

Seriously, Team Nigella, please don't sue this fule!!!! It's too funny grin.

Hillgrove is deranged.

AnkaretLestrange Thu 31-Oct-13 15:15:41

I read that hillman blog recently, what a load of old tosh.

What are we supposed to think after a night smoking doobies rolled by the staff Nigella and her children demolish the kitchen looking for munchies (ooh! that's why all her programmes have a snippet at the end where she is eating cheesecake at midnight from the fridge).

I don't believe it for a second.

Susannah is obviously a convert to Not Your Daughters Jeans.

Why are those tools pictured leaning into Saatchi like he is the most interesting man alive?

Or possibly consumed too much Bolivian Marching Powder

Bonsoir Thu 31-Oct-13 15:43:15

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eggyweggies Thu 31-Oct-13 15:48:02

Please can I have a PM? I asked first!

LifeofPo Thu 31-Oct-13 15:48:57

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MarshaBrady Thu 31-Oct-13 15:51:32

Sent you one eggys.

Bonsoir Thu 31-Oct-13 15:53:59

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Onesleeptillwembley Thu 31-Oct-13 16:11:16

So on the one hand she was encouraging drug use on the kids. On the other he got his daughter to express how mean nigella was for dropping her. Surely if he disapproved of the first he wouldn't have his daughter around her. His pr is so woeful it's comical.

Onesleeptillwembley Thu 31-Oct-13 16:12:46

Encouraging drug use IN the kids. Not on the kids.

Because you're a bullying abusive arsehole and you don't need a reason to assault you wife. CS is quite capable of total flights of fancy to justify his behaviour, which is what Hillman is peddling.

JustAnotherFucker Thu 31-Oct-13 16:21:13

I've just read that blog.

Very weird. I wonder if the author is on drugs himself. It sounds absurd - having the staff make the spliffs up.

If it really was a drug taking problem then why didn't he (Saatchi) just say so at the time confused hmm

I wonder if she had a sneaky spliff from time to time and he is now threatening to use this against her.

Even if she was getting mashed with her kids every night of the week it didn't give him the right to put his hands around her throat.


hollyisalovelyname Thu 31-Oct-13 16:31:14

I love Trinny's coat- anyone know where it's from?
I pity the poor children mixed up in all this s**t.
Didn't Saatchi leave his wife for Nigella ?

DoubleLifeIsALifeOfSorts Thu 31-Oct-13 16:31:55

It doesn't actually matter whether nigella is a drug fuelled crazy workaholic... As nine of that excuses his blatant and public physical abuse of her.

Does he not understand that she could have a wardrobe full of white powder and it still doesn't make his behaviour any better!

Pah! The ridiculous surreal egotistical man who cannot understand the world does not consistently adore him and smile at his silly little strangulation trick or nod sagely saying poor wonderful man, he was a saint & just provoked by the nasty witch... Pah! Pah, and pah again!

PR is actually very different from advertising btw, and it shows doesn't it!

wordfactory Thu 31-Oct-13 16:35:42

And where the hell was CC when Nigella and the kids (his too presumably) were sitting around a bong each night?

He's legendarily hermit-like.

If she's been at it ten years, he took his time to get a rage on!

ThunderbumsMum Thu 31-Oct-13 16:37:12

MASSIVE grin @ 'he was doing what any good husband would do'. Well, mine is obviously shit, then, because he has never throttled me. Bastard.

Merguez Thu 31-Oct-13 16:41:48

That blog is extraordinary and I don't believe a word of it.

AnkaretLestrange Thu 31-Oct-13 16:42:45

Haha at 'PR is very different from advertising and doesn't it show' [gin]

wordfactory Thu 31-Oct-13 16:44:55

'I say Jeeves, do get a move on with that doobie. The children are absolutley gagging.'

AnkaretLestrange Thu 31-Oct-13 16:46:12

Wouldn't you be afraid that the help would be skimming some off for themselves?

That's not good drug husbandry.

AnkaretLestrange Thu 31-Oct-13 16:47:29

Did they get the staff to do 3am kebab runs as well?

I wouldn't judge Nigella for an occasional drug binge being married to that ghastly fag ash lil.

Merguez Thu 31-Oct-13 16:51:10

I work in PR. I think there is something very fishy. There is a bona fide PR agency called Hillgrove PR, here is their blog:

This appears to have nothing to do with the other one which is blogging about Nigella and which does not appear to have its own website.

grin grin at the thought of nigella and children smoking together every night!

mignonnette Thu 31-Oct-13 17:31:47

I wasn't calling her a chronic coke addict Leopold. That is not what my post said at all. I was referring to the scurrilous rumours and the fact that they imply a chronic problem.

And BTW prodigious party use is not the same as a chronic addiction- repeated problem use over a period of time w/ marked physical and/or psychological symptoms of withdrawal syndrome following deprivation of the drug of abuse. And that would cause problems of erraticism w/ work output, reliability and quality. None of which Nigella has EVER been asssociated w/.

Hence my belief that this is nonsense.

hollyisalovelyname Thu 31-Oct-13 17:51:35

This is Syle and Beauty.
Trinny's coat anyone???? B

Curioustiger Thu 31-Oct-13 18:00:53

Mmm I love trinny's coat. Anyone know where its from?

Agree re susannah's jeans... Some women just shouldn't wear jeans. I should know, I'm one of them!

As for the nigella stuff, sounds like absolute nonsense to me.

BasilBabyEater Thu 31-Oct-13 19:19:23

Interesting that Saatchi is going for that time honoured tactic of discrediting his victim in order to try and make his abuse excusable.

It works, doesn't it?

DoubleLifeIsALifeOfSorts Thu 31-Oct-13 19:36:53

I actually don't think it will work in this case as she has such a good media image (ok, a bit tooo much gooey sexy yumminess but thats ok in the grand scheme of things) and he has a ego-maniac-unstable-genius kind of image...or am I being naive?

PatoBanton Thu 31-Oct-13 20:18:42

Oh Gawd Palmerston can you cat me?

or someone smile

I neeeeeeeed to know.

PatoBanton Thu 31-Oct-13 20:20:03

I feel like sending her some draw, she probably needs it

buss Thu 31-Oct-13 20:22:44

curioustiger- the coat is probably from the Trinny and Susannah collection at QVC.
Bound to be a today's special value coming up.

mignonnette Thu 31-Oct-13 20:32:52

The coat looks far too well made for their range surely? It is beautifully made in expensive looking fabric. Wonder if it is Etro, Cavalli or another Italian brand?

PatoBanton Thu 31-Oct-13 20:33:49

Have read the blog post. What a load of old shit.

LordPalmerston Thu 31-Oct-13 20:35:45

well it explains the nose thing

PatoBanton Thu 31-Oct-13 20:37:13

yebbut not the hand thing

ubik Thu 31-Oct-13 20:41:18

i still remember when the birches made a mother of triplets cry in the changing room

God knows why anyone would want the advice of a couple of jumped up Sloanes

buss Thu 31-Oct-13 21:10:26

Well I've just checked QVC and the coat isn't there at all.
So I'm properly pwned <as ds would say>

mignonnette Thu 31-Oct-13 21:13:51

I tried google but nothing there about the coat. It is definitely too well made to be one of theirs. Try googling the agency representing them and ask or tweet her?

mignonnette Thu 31-Oct-13 21:17:47

Oh and surprise surprise, they have a new show coming out hmm and her twitter account was dead between late June and October and now suddenly alive again....

Big stench of PR around here...

MsBouvier Thu 31-Oct-13 21:20:28

Not sure it does explain the nose thing. The pictures I saw, he had pinched it so hard, it looked like he had his thumb jammed up it. Thus blocking not revealing the view of the alleged drugs. And making it look more like the actions of someone being a cunt.


mignonnette Thu 31-Oct-13 21:23:06

He is a liar and a desperate controlling little prat.

AnkaretLestrange Thu 31-Oct-13 21:31:15

Lol at cat me you cunt

If you look at the daily mail photos right at the end, why is Saatchi carrying Susannahs coat all bundled up in his arms? What's happened to her? Is she trussed up in the boot of his car?

They do actually talk about Nigella in one of their books something about her being an hourglass and wearing stuff that suits her but they would be "very surprised if she had a stylist" or something to that effect. All a bit snotty really.

AnkaretLestrange Thu 31-Oct-13 22:34:34

Nige back in the Trinny and Susannah heyday of 2003 was a scruff anyway, all long skirts, white tops and denim jackets.

Would have thought their paths would have crossed, all 3 of them being rather grand and similar age in the media.

DoubleLifeIsALifeOfSorts Thu 31-Oct-13 23:26:46

Merguez I just looked at the blog and you are right, this is a fake PR blog, it's only got one other 'news' story which is very short and badly written, and a whole stream of articles about Nigella & her ex.

Whoever wrote it and why I have no idea, but it's not the pr firm Hillgrove.

(hope i'm allowed to say this!)

DoubleLifeIsALifeOfSorts Thu 31-Oct-13 23:28:39

And can I just quote this from the blog ... An exposé on 'what really happened' when the photos were taken,, aparently, he was

"holding her throat to assist her focus and regain attention"

Oh. I see. Yeah, that totally happens.

DoubleLifeIsALifeOfSorts Thu 31-Oct-13 23:29:23

Just get those posts deleted if there is a legal issue btw - don't want to screw up the whole thread!

AnkaretLestrange Fri 01-Nov-13 00:31:43

Just a revolting blog. As if grabbing someone around the throat and sticking a finger up the nose is justified. Just seems a overwrought and imaginative reason to justify the vile behaviour.

I am pretty sure if Nigella had a coke habit to cause repeated visits to the toilet in Scott's it would have come out a lot sooner.

hollyisalovelyname Fri 01-Nov-13 08:52:01

Back to the coat ladies....
Trinny's coat.
Well it is Style and Beauty smile

hollyisalovelyname Fri 01-Nov-13 08:56:18

CuriousTiger I agree with you. Some women just don't look good in jeans. I work with a girl- stunning looking, great figure but when she puts on a pair of jeans - ughhh. Makes her look fat and dumpy- she's size 8/10 and about 5'7' ( with skinny legs) so shouldn't happen.

BasilBabyEater Fri 01-Nov-13 11:32:10

Bit it is working.

People on this thread are saying that it explains the nose thing.

It really is a very effective tactic, which is why abusers use it.

PrimalLass Fri 01-Nov-13 12:00:17

People on this thread are saying that it explains the nose thing.

I think that if it was true it would explain it. That's why I used "".

BasilBabyEater Fri 01-Nov-13 12:04:30

It wouldn't explain his violence though.

It only explains it, if you think that violence is an excusable/ understandable response to your partner taking drugs.

Lots of people do, which is why Saatchi's trying this method - it's classic abuser tactics and it works.

PrimalLass Fri 01-Nov-13 12:04:42

I dont think you are right about it being a fake blog. If you google the author and blog lots of stuff comes up.

PrimalLass Fri 01-Nov-13 12:07:57

if you think that violence is an excusable/ understandable response to your partner taking drugs

Thanks for insinuating that I believe that.

thecatfromjapan Fri 01-Nov-13 12:12:44

Coat is OK. But isn't it a bit Prada-brocade-stylee-from-years-ago.

Everything else (all the PR shit) smells of fish. Lots of fish. And reviving dead horses (wrt The Amazing Trinny and Suzannah Show).

Am actually fairly appalled at what this indicates about how Mr S and PR in general work.


Allegedly, etc.

BasilBabyEater Fri 01-Nov-13 12:14:28

If you don't want people to believe you believe that, don't write things that imply you do.

The nose thing is not explained by her potential behaviour.

It's explained by his actual behaviour. His violence.

I think it's important to point out that the fact that people can write that his violence is explained by anything Nigella may have done, shows how deep-seated and unconscious the beliefs about domestic violence are. And the reason abusers like Saatchi tap into those beliefs, is because they know that people have them and are unaware of having them and so they work in terms of white-washing their violence. I'm not writing this stuff on a style and beauty thread in order to offend anyone, I'm writing it because I think it's really important to challenge those DV myths where you see them. Sorry to offend you PrimaLass.

thecatfromjapan Fri 01-Nov-13 12:14:50

And am really <raises eyebrows skywards> at Trinny and Susannah. Muppets. But I don't think anyone has ever accused them of being knowingly caught in possession of excess integrity or brain cells.

thecatfromjapan Fri 01-Nov-13 12:19:15

I totally agree with Basil .

Nothing but nothing excuses DV.

Utterly sick that we appear (as public) to be being asked to accept such crap.


But perhaps a chance to really push the point that DV IS ALWAYS UNACCEPTABLE.

Thinking more about the coat - it really is like a 50s eiderdown, isn't it? Not a bad look, but perhaps one to be cautious of, unless done by Prada. Wouldn't buy any tat with TW's name attached to it. Suspect would be poorly cut, have awful seams,and be two seasons behind (at least). And giving off the sad reek of desperation.

Cantabile Fri 01-Nov-13 12:26:44

Hear hear, Basil. Nothing ever excuses violence. Mr S is a vile man. T&S are silly girls, with a show to promote.

The dress is nice, one jacket is OK. The rest is frump.

squoosh Fri 01-Nov-13 12:56:02

Oh what a surprise, he's now decided not to sue Nigella or reveal the lies 'truth' as he wants to 'get on with his life'.

PrimalLass Fri 01-Nov-13 13:47:31


OK, it might explain why an abuser asshat like CS feels it is acceptable to stick his finger up his nose.

As in, sticking your finger up someone's nose is beyond bizarre.

BasilBabyEater Fri 01-Nov-13 14:39:27

Well yes, but then abusers don't really need an excuse to find their abuse acceptable.

It's so classic that he's not going to sue her after all - of course he isn't, he never was. He's spread this as part of a campaign to discredit her. In a few weeks/ months there'll be more "rumours" about her - it's part of a drip drip effect so that in 10 years time when we've all forgotten the ins and outs, we'll look back and vaguely remember that there was an incident and the first thing we'll remember isn't that Charles Saatchi is a violent abuser, but that it was something to do with Nigella and drug use or something. That way in the cultural narrative it goes down as six of one and half a dozen of the other.

It really is a classic technique and it's very clever and it works - that's why he's using it.

Merguez Fri 01-Nov-13 14:55:33

On the provenance of the blog - it's either a very clever double bluff (and Hillgrove Circle is an offshoot of Hillgrove PR); or it is a complete fake.

Why hasn't the odious Daily Mail picked up on this if either one is true?

PrimalLass Fri 01-Nov-13 17:01:18

Well yes, but then abusers don't really need an excuse to find their abuse acceptable.

But no-one on this thread said it was acceptable, and to make out the anyone did is not fair.

SundaySimmons Fri 01-Nov-13 17:29:49

Susannah in those jeans has the typical look of someone who has had liposuction as she looks out of proportion with the rest of her figure.

I'm only guessing that because she looks very similar to before and after my friend who has had lipo on her thighs, hips, stomach.

It's a very strange shape.

noddyholder Fri 01-Nov-13 17:32:51

I am similar ish to her slim but busty and I would never wear those jeans or that top and the jacket well its horrendous for her shape. I thought this was their job. Trinny looks ok in anything as clothes are made for her size just throw it on and you look great. Dark tight jeans with a kick at the bottom are cilla black style in fact the whole outfit is.

squoosh Fri 01-Nov-13 17:35:34

I do like Trinny's coat!

noddyholder Fri 01-Nov-13 17:38:01

I like her coat too but on her yes on me still would look cilla black Its not for boobs

Fuckitthatlldo Fri 01-Nov-13 18:12:08

I think Susannah looks facking dreadful. Really really bad. The jeans are horrid, the shirt is horrid, the jacket is horrid. She looks like she's been shopping in Ethel Austin.

Trinny looks ok, but just ok.

I never could understand why those two were advising other people on how to dress.

As for the hob-knobbing with CS - I think it's public image suicide to be honest. It makes them look like unsisterly abuse apologists, desperate for media attention, and it makes Trinny look so utterly desperate for a man, she will even take up with someone who was photographed physically abusing his wife in public.

Whole thing leaves a nasty taste in my mouth.

noddyholder Fri 01-Nov-13 18:14:45

I agree and also can't see the attraction of Trinny's get up either. I have seen her in the flesh and it was about 6 yrs ago and she has had extensive stuff done very much that american duck face look

Housesellerihope Fri 01-Nov-13 18:15:36

Trinny in that dirty car driving herself home after that depressing "date"...just seemed kinda pathetic, really. I guess T&S have been pretty washed up for a while now but surely they can do better than sharing Charles Saatchi? I feel sorry for both of them. Surely if this is publicity it can only backfire as I don't think any of us have become big T&S fans after this escapade?

noddyholder Fri 01-Nov-13 18:18:04

No I agree QVC and now this. Tis over!

SundaySimmons Fri 01-Nov-13 18:21:58

I don't want to be unkind but Trinny was a lovely looking woman and the surgery she has had is awful. Her head/face is so smooth she looks like a Mrs Potato head and the eyes, nose and oversized lips have been stuck on.

Why do they do it? They don't look younger or better, just smoother, puffier and bizarre.

AnkaretLestrange Fri 01-Nov-13 18:27:05

There's no need for that plastic, rich housewives of Beverley Hills look. I have Botox and you can't tell. It just stops me from looking like a miserable piece of shit. I wouldn't have fillers and I don't want to look younger than I am, just to stop me frowning all the day long.

I resent Trinny because I listened to her when she said not to wear bias cut dresses when actually, I look bloody lovely in them.

I can't help thinking of them as Aunt Sponge and Aunt Spiker now.

BasilBabyEater Fri 01-Nov-13 18:41:56

I'm not making out anyone finds his violence acceptable, I'm sure on a conscious level, no-one does..

I do think it's worth pointing out however, that finding excuses for domestic violence is what we do in our culture and the usual way is to discredit the victim.

Our attitudes to DV are not linear, they're all mixed up. We condemn it while excusing it at the same time, which is why it's so prevalent and why abusers usually get away with it. It's why a respectable, beautiful woman with a public profile and a career to lose like Trinny Woodall, can even be seen out with a man who in a culture which didn't have this ambivalence to DV, would simply be a pariah.

BasilBabyEater Fri 01-Nov-13 18:42:34

Why did she say not to wear bias dresses btw?

AnkaretLestrange Fri 01-Nov-13 18:51:00

I am the same shape as her (very tall however long waisted and relatively short legs) and she said bias cut was the devil as it makes you look broad in the beam even if you are slim.


BasilBabyEater Fri 01-Nov-13 18:57:36

I found their fashion advice hit and miss tbh. Some of it was brilliant but some completely off.

Am wondering about Suzanna's tucked-in blouse. Do people do that now? For years, tucking shirts/ blouses into shirts /jeans etc. seemed to be banned but I've seen a few people do that recently and wonder if it's a trend or if they're just absent-minded...

AnkaretLestrange Fri 01-Nov-13 19:00:36

I never never tuck things in, but a few weeks ago tucked a silky shirt into skinny jeans just out of curiosity, and it looked very flattering. I wore it all day but it felt very odd indeed to be tucked in. I looked THIN though which is always a winner.

SundaySimmons Fri 01-Nov-13 19:13:30

OMG found the blog. Do they think we are stupid enough to be distracted from CS physically abusing NL by frankly ridiculous drug allegations hmm

Housesellerihope Fri 01-Nov-13 19:56:36

Thanks for the link, Sunday, I'm enjoying reading through that Vagendamag - lots of thought provoking articles on there.

GrandstandingBlueTit Fri 01-Nov-13 20:07:29

Charles Saatchi and T&S hooking up doesn't lend CS any credibility.

It simply confirms T&S as washed-up desperados.

To be fair to them, there were probably people who didn't put them quite in that category just yet. But by associating with CS, they've fast-tracked themselves there on a one-way ticket.

I understand that women who perhaps have self-esteem issues and who have a bad track record with deeply unsuitable men find it hard to break out of that cycle, and I don't think any reasonable person wouldn't have sympathy with that situation.

But Trinny is going into this with the blinkers off, eyes wide open, red flags waving and twunt radars flashing. Surely she has a modicum of responsbility to cop on a little bit herself.

But if publicity, the lure of OAP power and a mahoosive bank balance is enough to silence everything else, then so be it, I guess.

parasaurolophus Fri 01-Nov-13 20:09:55

Whenever mumsnet gets holier-than-thou about skinny jeans I suspect you all have black or platinum hair in a sock bun.

For many, skinny jeans are a triumph of fashion over style.

Saatchi, though, there is no excuse.

AuntyEntropy Fri 01-Nov-13 20:10:43

I think you are all total bitches because I now really want to see that picture and decide for myself about the jeans and the coat but I'm boycotting DM links sad. Is there not a non-DM picture?

I went into a lovely little country church today which had an ongoing book sale, tucked away in a little corner. They had the Shades of Grey trilogy, Destiny by Sally Beaumont (shout-out to the Eighties trash-lot fans), Plays Pleasant by George Bernard Shaw, and What Not To Wear.

HappyGirlNow Fri 01-Nov-13 20:12:36

Here you go..

MrsCampbellBlack Fri 01-Nov-13 20:24:16

I tuck shirts in or rather do the half-tuck.

Trinny's face is smooth as she suffered very badly with acne which caused scarring so she's had stuff done to get rid of the scars.

Levantine Fri 01-Nov-13 20:45:47

Thanks for the blog link Sunday

AnkaretLestrange Fri 01-Nov-13 20:54:15

I like that vagenda blog.

I have got that book. I can't get rid of it because dd bought it for me one Christmas and it has a message in it.

AuntyEntropy Fri 01-Nov-13 22:51:06

Thanks for the photo. Worryingly I appear to be wearing those exact jeans today - they are from Per Una and are about ten years old, maybe more, but I re-dyed them that very dark blue. However I am wearing them to walk dogs in the Yorkshire dales, rather than being papped in fashionable Mayfair eateries.

Housesellerihope Sat 02-Nov-13 05:59:34

Well, I wore those jeans to work yesterday on casual Friday blush. At least I won't be working out of that office after next week so won't have to see any of those colleagues again. Also in my defence at least I didn't wear them out in the evening to a posh restaurant!

Similar jackets in M and Co if that's your bag

KosherBacon Tue 26-Nov-13 20:24:49

So- were all the rumours people were talking about on this thread the same as the ones that were discussed in court today?

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