Liz Earle Hot Cloth Cleanse and NEED this in your life

(109 Posts)
Pantone363 Tue 06-Aug-13 15:26:12

Have been battling hormonal, spotty, dry, oily patches skin for a year.

Starting dianette 4 months ago so no new 'active' spots, but a few crops of small pimples that never went anywhere, lots of dry patches and a really oily chin/nose.

Started Liz Earles stuff two weeks ago after I got collared by a shop girl on pay day hmm and it is AMAZING.

I used it and waited for the usual itching/dry/burning bits...nothing. It removed all my makeup (even MAC liquid liner which is a bitch to remove). I've had 3 ex rather charmingly asked if I was "knocked up" hmm because I was all glowy...small crops of spots are GONE.

Buy it buy it buy it. I paid £15 ish for the big bottle and 2 muslin cloths. One pump is more than enough.

CalamityJones Tue 06-Aug-13 15:28:30

Do you not find it absolutely rubbish at removing eye makeup? I used to use it a few years ago and then they changed the formula, and since then it just seems a bit useless on my eyes (admittedly great everywhere else)

Missbopeep Tue 06-Aug-13 15:31:02

I hated it- received a sample and would never buy it. It's really thick, takes ages to spread on your face and you pull your skin every time you try to remove it- I'm sure it must make the skin sag eventually with all that pulling to remove it. And I hated the smell.

Pantone363 Tue 06-Aug-13 15:33:05

No. It removes my MAC liquid liner which I was still cleaning off for days beforehand. And I usually use Mac studio finish powder over Chanel foundation (bad skin) and it all comes clean off with one wipe. I make sure the water is quite hot though.

TerribleTantrums Tue 06-Aug-13 15:34:22

I used to use it and now use this which was recommended on MN. I much prefer it to Liz Earle.

Pantone363 Tue 06-Aug-13 15:36:01

But it FIXED my skin (stamps feet)

dexter73 Tue 06-Aug-13 15:43:06

I am not a fan of any LE product. The all smell bad and do nothing for my skin. I have started using the micellar water to clean my skin after it was recommended on here and my skin is looking very clear and bright. It is also very good at getting make-up off.

OrangeOpalFruit Tue 06-Aug-13 15:51:23

Don't you find that you just end up with mascara smeared all over your face and a load of black stained muslins? I couldn't work it out. Not for me.

cafenoir Tue 06-Aug-13 15:55:08

I feel neutral about it. Friend bought me a big tube of it for my birthday. It's ok but I'm not mad about the smell and my skin doesn't look better/worse.

squoosh Tue 06-Aug-13 15:55:32

I hate it. It dried my skin out and left lots of weird bumps on my cheeks. I'm glad it's working for you though!

Armadale Tue 06-Aug-13 16:05:56

I really like it too. I do find it hard to get mascara off so use a bit of cheap eye makeup remover on a cotton pad first, and then use it.

Superdrug do a rip off version that is just as good if not better IME, (although the muslim cloth you get with it is a bit dodgy.)

So keep your two good liz earle muslim cloths and when the product runs out try the superdrug one, (normally £6, £2.99 at the moment). Problem solved smile linky

I love it too OP. Miraculous stuff!

BucketsnSpades Tue 06-Aug-13 16:15:08

I love it, I love the smell, it feels like a little bit of luxury in my otherwise frugal life. Since I started using it four years ago I've worn less and less make up and I now feel confident to leave the house with bare skin because it's no longer blotchy and spotty.

My other favourite product is a spray on body oil by the sanctuary, I never used moisturiser until I realised I could do it in seconds.

Missbopeep Tue 06-Aug-13 16:32:23

I'd go as far as saying it's not the actual product that makes your skin better but the regime- using an exfoliating cloth to remove dead skin and all the gunge.

I reckon if you smeared your face with pure lard and removed with a hot muslin cloth you'd still be happy with the result grin

TeamEdward Tue 06-Aug-13 16:39:43

I used to love it, but I received a bottle for Christmas and the formulas has definitely changed - it smells quite chemically now.
Also LE is now part of L'Oreal, which is owned by Nestle. It doesn't feel so nice slathered on my face knowing that.

I use the OCM now and that's basically the same as LE C&P but I know exactly what's going on my face as I make up the mix!

LogonMounstuart Tue 06-Aug-13 16:50:05

I love it too. It is fab. Lovely smell and much improved skin. A must have for me.

Missbopeep Tue 06-Aug-13 16:52:48

You are not comparing like with like though.

If you change the way you cleanse then you have no proof that it's the product or the cleansing with the cloth that works wonders.

I've read so many beauty eds etc say it's nothing to do with the cream, it's the rubbing and scrubbing with muslin- which you can do with any old cleanser.

jumpinghoops Tue 06-Aug-13 16:56:06

I really used to think it was fab, and it totally sorted my skin out as well. But agree with others upthread, the formula has changed and it just doesn't do anything for me anymore. There are other balm cleansers out there that I love though and agree it's as much about the process of using the cloth etc. as it is about the product.

Mosschops30 Tue 06-Aug-13 16:58:06

Yes I love it too

I find it easy to use, like the smell, love the toner and moisturiser too
The body wash is to die for, I keep saying I'm not gonna buy it (£12) shock but I can't help myself

I'm with Armadale - the Superdrug ones are fab. I use the Vitamin E one. My skin is fantastic since starting using it,which is probably more due to the muslin than the product.

squoosh Tue 06-Aug-13 17:11:53

I don't like muslins I find them too scratchy, I use flannels.

MostlyCake Tue 06-Aug-13 17:18:37

What's OCM?

squoosh Tue 06-Aug-13 17:29:29

Oil Cleansing Method

chanie44 Tue 06-Aug-13 17:36:17

I used cleanse and polish for years. I can't afford it anymore, but I bought the super drug radiance version for £2.99 (On offer) and it works just as well.

DoItTooJulia Tue 06-Aug-13 17:41:32

I loved it. But now on maternity leave so using the superdrug vitamin e version. Can't say I will ever change back! It's a fiver and often on two for three!

HaPPy8 Tue 06-Aug-13 17:44:42

I thought LE was part of AVON? not Loreal?

squoosh Tue 06-Aug-13 17:46:13

Yes I'm sure it is Avon. Think a lot of people who worked for LE on the Isle of Wight were made redundant after the buy out*

*happy to be corrected on this.

ShotgunNotDoingThePans Tue 06-Aug-13 17:47:07

Dexter, what's micellar water?

ShotgunNotDoingThePans Tue 06-Aug-13 17:50:36

Okay, I've just googled it smile.

ChocolateHelps Tue 06-Aug-13 17:52:06

Quick google and Liz Earle is now owned by Avon, phew!!! I love hot cloth cleanse & polish. Use it every morning in the shower and some evenings when can be arsed. Might have to try the super drug one tho as its prob a lot to do with the muslins and not so much the cleanser

Arisbottle Tue 06-Aug-13 17:55:03

Use Liz Earle and have found it had has transformed my skin and I also wear much less make up.

Arisbottle Tue 06-Aug-13 17:55:23

I love the skin oil as well.

dexter73 Tue 06-Aug-13 17:58:54

Do you not find the smell of the oil overpowering? I had a sample of it and put it on before bed but it was so strong it put me off going to sleep! I had to wash it off!

Arisbottle Tue 06-Aug-13 18:04:49

DH sometimes has a moan about it, now you say it. I quite like the smell, it is quite relaxing . I love the smell of the hand cream as well.

Shitsinger Tue 06-Aug-13 18:35:45

I agree with those saying its the muslin- you could pretty much use any cream cleanser and get the same results- I use the Burts Bees Soapbark cream cleanser ,its lovely and a huge tube lasts ages . I always stock up when its on special offer in Waitrose.
I follow with the Bioderma Sebium water for oily skin - amazing and very gentle.
Its reduced the greasiness dramatically.

Onesleeptillwembley Tue 06-Aug-13 18:39:23

Liz Earle products are reasonable at best. They are ridiculously overpriced, especially for the quality.

Arisbottle Tue 06-Aug-13 18:42:32

Gordon Bennet people are touchy on here today, I like the products but am not going to row about it

Shitsinger Tue 06-Aug-13 19:44:18

To be fair Arisbottle its hardly the next new wonder product - being told we NEED it BUY it BUY it when we tried it and didn't like it 5 years ago is making me wonder whether OP is Liz herself grin<lighthearted.>
Glad it worked for you OP .

TeamEdward Tue 06-Aug-13 19:46:42

I stand corrected on the Avon/L'Oreal issue.
The formula has changed though, I'm sure. It's not as nice as it was.

squoosh Tue 06-Aug-13 19:48:25

Now ladies play nice or I'll make you clean your faces with carbolic soap!

OP I know that feeling when you find a wonder product, it's what keeps me buying new stuff.

HandMini Tue 06-Aug-13 19:52:02

Is the Liz Earle muslin any different from a, er, you know, baby muslin? Just wondering if I can recreate this effect with one of DDs muslins?

Arisbottle Tue 06-Aug-13 19:54:06

I bought a batch pack of Liz Earle Muslins but I have some spare ones from amazon that seem to work as well .

Shitsinger Tue 06-Aug-13 19:54:20

OMG its what made me stash Tesco Organic cream cleanser because it was amazing and sob discontinued. squoosh
Nothing will ever come close!
I still have some wink

Arisbottle Tue 06-Aug-13 19:55:36

I have tried Eve Lom which is very good but much more money

goodbyeyellowbrickroad Tue 06-Aug-13 19:55:56

Used to love it but now it brings me up in horrid red bumps/spots on my cheeks. I'm sure they've changed the formulation. Love Bioderma H2O for getting rid of make up.

MadBusLady Tue 06-Aug-13 19:57:12

I have some baby muslins and some Eve Lom ones - the baby ones are definitely scratchier (poor babies!) but seem to give the same results.

Didn't get on with Liz Earle at all though, it whipped my rosacea into a frenzy.

HandMini Tue 06-Aug-13 20:00:28

Thanks MadBus, I'll sneak into DDs room shortly and grab one. My skin is so grey and tired looking from lack of sleep I'll try any cheap quick fix to look more human.

Alwayscheerful Tue 06-Aug-13 20:17:54

Eve Lom all the way for me, love the smell and although I paid £50 for the medium sized pot over a year ago, I still have half left.

squoosh Tue 06-Aug-13 20:20:49

The thing about Eve Lom is that cheap old mineral oil is one of its main ingredients, I resent paying that kind of money for something made from mineral oil.

I really want to try Emma Hardie's Moringa Balm, supposed to be amazing.

DameDoom Tue 06-Aug-13 22:49:14

Emma Hardie all the way here - it is flippin' amazing. St Liz of Earle went to the dogs when they changed the formula that they deny all knowledge of so fervently. I do not trust anything that shark-eyed woman says and her insistence on special honey lighting when on QVC really grates. Mind you my sis bought ne some skin tint and I really like that blush.

AmandaPandtheTantrumofDoom Tue 06-Aug-13 22:55:49

I used to be devoted to it to, but prices have gone up massively and I don't think it's as good as it used to be.

Not found a good replacement yet though. Tried Soap and Glory but it was stingy.

GW297 Tue 06-Aug-13 23:02:53

I love all Liz Earle products! Glad you're skim has improved.

GW297 Tue 06-Aug-13 23:03:04

Skin even!

GW297 Tue 06-Aug-13 23:03:28

Your skin - not you're skin. Sorry!

valiumredhead Wed 07-Aug-13 00:27:26

I use out when my skin if red and sensitive, its not as good as it was before they changed the formula but its still good. It's massively overt priced imo. I use the eyebright eye treatment to remove eye up and then cleanser and polish.

When my skin it's behaving the aloe cleanser from the body shop is fantastic.

Soap&Glory skin stuff I found really rubbish for me, think it is far too harsh.

Callmedreckly Wed 07-Aug-13 00:38:10

I read on here once about a muslin that made you look like you'd had a chemical peel, (in a good way grin) was about £12. I want that!

Cant remember who sold it though?

valiumredhead Wed 07-Aug-13 00:41:07

That's a derma flannel!

Callmedreckly Wed 07-Aug-13 00:45:51

Oh blush thank you, will have a look for one.

MadBusLady Wed 07-Aug-13 07:26:24

I think it was then established by people in the thread clinical trials that e-cloths from the cleaning aisle were just as good smile I didn't see an improvement from my muslin cloths really.

knitknack Wed 07-Aug-13 07:34:23

It's got camphor oil in it which is why it irritates so many peoples' skin. Honestly though, ANY cream cleanser will work wonders as a 'hot cloth' cleanser (I always think my granny, who always washed her face with a flannel would be overawed at the marketing genius of that one!). You get the benefits of a really good clean, the softness of the cream cleanser and the exfoliation of the flannel.

If cash is tight just buy ANY cream cleanser and a flannel!! You'll get great results.

teatimesthree Wed 07-Aug-13 07:46:05

I like the Boots Organics version (recommended on here).

Lasts for ages and I find it better than LE.

Missbopeep Wed 07-Aug-13 08:09:28

To prove it's the LE that works you'd need to do one half of your face with that and the other with any old creamy cleanser.

Personally I don't rate any of her products- I sold the miracle eye serum on Ebay, and I really dislike the smell of all the shower stuff and body lotions, and am not convinced they are the wonder products they are made out to be, just because they have 'herbs and oil' in them- which can in fact be highly irritating to some skins.

JustBecauseICan Wed 07-Aug-13 10:13:53

I love C and P....including the's one of my beauty must have repeat buys......

I do accept I like the posh packaging and the perfume may give the Superdrug ones a bash. Is the Vitamin E one the same as the Radiance one?

JustBecauseICan Wed 07-Aug-13 10:14:46

(I loved the Superskin oily serum thingy as well, but again, accept it's more the smell I loved and my £4.99 rosehip oil from amazon does exactly the same!)

TeddyPickleStick Wed 07-Aug-13 12:17:11

Yes, I like this. It cleans well and shifts a lot of my eye make up.

I have, however, found a product I like just as much.... Trilogy. Check it out. Does the same job but the consistency is not as thick. I've been alternating the two with good results.

Awww OP, it is great when you find something that is brilliant for you and you just want to evangelise smile

LE was nothing special for me, possibly because I've been using hot cloths (flannels, though, not muslins) for years. I always use Ultrabland from Lush, cheaper and does a better job. If I run out I just use any old oil and that still works, so have to agree that it is probably the method rather than the product.

YasAz Wed 07-Aug-13 14:53:09

I completely agree – I’ve been using this for years and it’s completely cleared my skin. I’ve now moved onto a cheaper Botanics version but I do credit Liz Earl with clearing up my skin.

Armadale Wed 07-Aug-13 16:44:32

Just because:
\no the radiance one and the vitamin e one are 2 different hot cloth products that superdrug do.

TigerseyeMum Wed 07-Aug-13 18:02:54

Dermalogica Dermal Clay cleanser cleaned off with a muslin cloth is the shizzle for skin problems.

Expensive but lasts for months or years depending on how you use it.

People keep asking me if I've had something done...

JustBecauseICan Wed 07-Aug-13 18:30:40

Thankyou! Will go and browse (and sniff) tomorrow!

BustyDeLaGhetto Wed 07-Aug-13 18:48:12

I do HCC with Waitrose Bottom Butrer and it is MARVELLOUS....not to mention cheap.

alltoomuchrightnow Wed 07-Aug-13 18:50:47

In terms of how my skin has not improved my skin at all. In fact i have to do it lukewarm now..i was getting broken veins..but as a cleanser, for me superb..the waterproof makeup removal

alltoomuchrightnow Wed 07-Aug-13 18:51:07

and I like that it's not greasy

alltoomuchrightnow Wed 07-Aug-13 18:51:58

btw i dont like any of her other stuff. tried most of it. stung or too greasy

valiumredhead Wed 07-Aug-13 19:13:05

I don't use the cloth with warm water,I use cold water.Works fine.

Callmedreckly Thu 08-Aug-13 22:24:10

valiumredhead I have just ordered the Derma-Flannel!


Nux Thu 08-Aug-13 22:47:53

Ok S&B ladies, have been reading this thread with interest - I am lucky to have generally good skin but recently keep getting little white bumps - they are under the skin's surface so not squeezable or anything - sometimes they develop into small spots but usually they just sit there. I really want to get rid of them and guessed that I should exfoliate more - would a derma flannel help? Or one of the cleansers mentioned up thread? Anyone know what would work well?

Truebecca Thu 08-Aug-13 22:52:39

Nux try Bliss fabulous foaming facial wash I had the worse skin for most of my twenties (am now 34) this really really changed my life
Now I use cleansing oil by Nude from Victoria health it cost £18 but the bottle has lasted a year and I used to commute from London so had to wash that grime off at night!

Nux Thu 08-Aug-13 22:56:30

Thank you, will try it!

Truebecca Thu 08-Aug-13 22:57:15

Sorry Nux ignore my comment about bliss I didn't read your post properly I think you may need to see a facialist my friend had these white bumps and got advised how to clear them I can't remember what tho sorry

squoosh Thu 08-Aug-13 23:12:28

Nux sound slike you might be suffering from milia.

Caroline Hirons has some good advice on how to treat them here. I would certainly guess that hot cloth cleansing will go towards helping them. I find it good for many skin conditions although I don't think it's always ideal for people suffering from rosacea.

valiumredhead Fri 09-Aug-13 08:27:31

Let me know how you get on with the derma flannelgrin

Wrt little white bumps- hot as you can stand flannel pissed over them and then knick the top off with a sterilised needle and GENTLY squeeze,a little while pearl pops out which is very satisfyinggrin

valiumredhead Fri 09-Aug-13 08:27:59

Pressed not pissedgrin

valiumredhead Fri 09-Aug-13 08:37:38

Oh and that link says you have to do it professionally, ime I am far more gentle than anyone else as I can stop the second I press too hard. Been doing it for years and have no scarring and I have the most sensitive skin EVERgrin

JustBecauseICan Fri 09-Aug-13 11:31:08

Slight hijack but on the topic of hot cloth cleansers...has anyone tried the Boots Botanics hot cloth cleansing balm? Looked v nice (I had some time to kill this morning so wandered round picking pots up) Claims to be 90% organic main ingredients sweet almond, shea butter, rosehip and in nice dippy pot. Also 1/3 off at the mo'.

Would you like me to go and try it for us all? grin

squoosh Fri 09-Aug-13 11:37:00

I've bought that a few times JustBecause, I really like it even though they tweaked the formula slightly. It's a lovely balm to oil cleanser which my skin adores.

Arisbottle Fri 09-Aug-13 11:44:03

Please do try and feed back just because

Trills Fri 09-Aug-13 11:52:32

I think it smells lovely. I got some as a present - the friend who gave it to me slightly tied herself in knots explaining that she wasn't suggesting that my skin needed it or anything... smile

Arisbottle Fri 09-Aug-13 12:03:02

I have photographed my rather ugly nose with a question, it is in style and beauty. I think it may be the dreaded rosacea and because I am pregnant I can't even commiserate with gin. Please could you check. Do you think Liz Earle is at fault?

JustBecauseICan Fri 09-Aug-13 12:10:06

Aris, can't see a pic but when I first started using LE I came out in a terrible rash, to the point where I asked Liz herself in a MN webchat what she had done to my face!

She said it was perhaps too strong a formula to use twice a day, and to hold the cloth rather than scrub which is what I had been doing, since then I have had no problems.
A friend of mine did develop rosacea when pg though.

Arisbottle Fri 09-Aug-13 12:11:50
Arisbottle Fri 09-Aug-13 12:12:39

I don't really scrub but I am quite heavy handed, I could try using it once a day as well.

squoosh Fri 09-Aug-13 12:18:20

Hmmm, well the first thing I'd do is start eliminating products to see if they are the culprit. Make give the Liz Earle a break (my skin breaks out when I use it) and try something very mild instead.

It may be that the water is too hot or you're being too rough.

Accentuatethepositive Fri 09-Aug-13 12:18:34

I love LE cleanser. I'd be up for trying cheaper versions but what puts me off is they all seem to say to avoid direct contact with eyes, which I interpret as 'don't use this to take eye make up off'. What I love about LE is I don't have to faff about with separate eye makeup remover.

So those of you who use super drug version or others, do you use it on your eyes or not?

Btw to pp suffering with milia, I used to get these all the time round my eyes when I used eye make up remover. I had them removed by a beautician then switched to LE and haven't had a recurrence.

JemimaPuddle Fri 09-Aug-13 12:24:30

Accentuate I've used both the superdrug ones over my eyes, they've removed heavy eye makeup & caused no problems.

sophiedaal Fri 09-Aug-13 12:36:09

I used C&P religiously for years and it did work wonders on my skin but I agree with those who think the formula's changed - it's definitely more 'chemically' smelling and not quite as nice. I seem to be getting a lot more offers from Liz Earle directly now, which never used to happen in the past: are they losing a lot of old customers since the takeover? The price hikes have been noticeable - I'd rather have fewer bundled offers and lower prices overall admit it, Liz, no one really needs that toner in the cleansing set

Hot cloth cleansing is a great thing, though; I use normal flannels, with Emma Hardie Balm. Super glowy skin!

Arisbottle Fri 09-Aug-13 12:39:48

I really like the toner, but I do have quite a lot of it!

Nux Fri 09-Aug-13 12:41:49

squoosh and valiumredhead thank you so much! I'm going to try the derma flannel as I think it will help - definitely milia, I have managed to get the 'little white pearl of satisfaction' out a couple of times and nothing has scarred but the advice on the Caroline Hiron site is really helpful - I thought they were blocked pores of some sort so it's good to understand them better!

That as my first time posting on S&B, you lot are very helpful - I'm going to start asking more questions :-)

valiumredhead Fri 09-Aug-13 12:53:49

Let me know if the derma flannel is like a micro fibre cloth, I'm tempted myself!grin

Shitsinger Fri 09-Aug-13 12:55:37

I got huge red painful lumps under the skin when using the OCM and LE .
It took months for my skin to clear up and I swapped to a gentle cream cleanser and a muslin - very gentle ,no massage just gently apply cream, leave a minute or so and use warm water/muslin to remove.
I discussed with my eyebrow lady and she had the same problem - some skin is very sensitive to massage and the result is over production of sebum ,which blocks the oil glands and produces the red lumps.
Pregnancy hormones can make this worse.
Go gentle !

Shitsinger Fri 09-Aug-13 12:56:44

Congratulations BTW !

Arisbottle Fri 09-Aug-13 13:01:37

Thanks Shitsinger

Arisbottle Fri 09-Aug-13 13:02:01

Did you keep oil cleansing as well.

Shitsinger Fri 09-Aug-13 13:53:45

It wrecked my skin.

Arisbottle Fri 09-Aug-13 13:57:02

I have always used skin oil before bed and had no problems and so I thought oil cleansing would work for me.

Accentuatethepositive Fri 09-Aug-13 14:43:47

Thanks jemima that's good to know! Will try it!

valiumredhead Fri 09-Aug-13 16:22:58

Oil cleaning method was shit for me first time in my life I've ever had spots!

valiumredhead Fri 09-Aug-13 16:23:45

Are you using Liz Earle AND oil cleaning because both would be massive over load, you need to do one or the other.

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