Yet another bra thread.......

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So I went to the dreaded M & S a couple of months ago and they fitted me in a 34dd.

I have the back fastened on the tightest hook and I can pull it really far away and my straps are done up as tight as possible. I also have awful shoulder and neck pain.

So what do I need to do? I don't have a Freya or Bravissimo locally and I'm not sure that I trust the high streets stores anymore.

MadBusLady Sat 03-Aug-13 11:55:09

Post your measurements and we will suggest sizes to try - though sounds like you might need to order online if your shop choice isn't huge. Self-measuring instructions here. smile

MadBusLady Sat 03-Aug-13 11:56:37

I'll put advance money on you being about a 30F by th way, because of the way M&S measure grin

30F???!!! Surely that would be impossible. I'm not skinny in the back area.

Or any area actually. grin

I'll read the instructions and get measuring!

So 32 under the bust and when I bent over it was 41 tight and 43 loose.

Help please. grin

MadBusLady Sat 03-Aug-13 13:00:57

I am a bit out, that would make you something like a 32G, 32GG or 32H. Best way to check band fit is to put the bra on backwards. If a 32 feels good like that, firm and supportive and only letting in a few fingers on the loosest hook, then start working on the cup size which can be a lot more variable - and remember to scoop.

Don't be afraid to go down a band size though if the 32 doesn't give you the right fit - the way you describe your 34 makes it sound much too big rather than just one band size IYSWIM. I reckoned on 30 because M&S usually add four or five inches onto your actual measurement.

I just went to a bra shop who said I couldn't be a 32 back. confused

I tried on a 32E and it was ok, better than the 34dd but I'm still a bit confused.

It costs £50 though! I was shock. They said it i want to reserve it ( because I got paid next week) then I'll have to pay a deposit!

Is House of Fraser any good?

*if I

I suspect a 32E will be way too small in the cup - your measurements suggest you need way more cup space than that. Did you scoop?

You also don't need to pay £50. Bravissimo (online) have hundreds of bras in the size you need, I don't think any are over about £33. You can get amazing bargains (£10-15) from brastop, mycurvesandme, amazon, leia, debenhams

Fairylea Sat 03-Aug-13 22:07:42

You can buy brand new bras on eBay, the same ones that bravissimo sell. I recently brought two panache 30g bras for 14.99 each that are currently going for 25 on bravissimo.

You don't need to be skinny all over to have a small back. I am a 30 back and a dress size 16. I have been properly fitted in bravissimo.

MoreThanWords Sat 03-Aug-13 22:13:13

Ditto - I wear a size 16 top and am a 32H (and will soon have loads of 32GG bras on ebay!).

My local House of Fraser has a couple of styles in an H cup, but brastop and bravissimo are good places to start, and ebay once you know your size.

Experiment with different cup styles too - I'm going to have to go for a balconette in the H cup.

I did scoop but I had back fat which I I don't normally have. The girl in the shop said I'll have that until I lose it. sad

So how do I scoop the extra tissue (?) in?

I might pop to House of Fraser and try on some more sizes and then get on Ebay. Hopefully I'm a 32GG.wink

GirlWithTheDirtyShirt Sat 03-Aug-13 22:23:10

Can someone do a quick verification on mine please? I'm pretty good and have been going to bravissimo for about 4 years now so I don't think I'm far out but have been leaping weight recently. Got a wedding next week and no time to go to bravissimo so here goes...

34 around chest. Possibly nearer 35.

41.5 around chest.

I'm currently wearing 34FF but the bands are v loose. That doesn't sound far out to me?

Can anyone help? Thank you!

In a 32E you would not have been able to hold the backfat in properly. Scooping requires a small enough back (to stop it escaping) and a big enough cup (to contain it in the first place) so given that the E was a minimum of 2 cups too small....

Once you have a big enough cup you will be able to scoop that backfat in to the bra. Be vigorous! The girl you spoke to was clearly very clueless

Does anyone have a good link for the scoop method please?

Even though the 32E wasn't the right size I could still see the improvement from the 34DD. smile


Put the bra on, and stand side on to a mirror. Lean forward, take your right hand and put it inside the left cup. Now, reach as far round as you can (towards where the strap is on your back) and pull all the skin/fat/everything that bulges on either back or armpits, forward in to the cup. You might need to do this a couple of times so you get everything that is above and below the band. Repeat on the other side.

LousThighBurn Sun 04-Aug-13 09:26:46

I recently measured myself after wearing a 34DD and feeling like my bust was completely unsupported! Using the Bra Guru website I found that my measurements of 30 underbust and 40 when leaning forward put me at a 30GG, but I think I have shallow breasts as my breast tissue thins at the top.I tried on a 32F and a 30F in Debenhams recently and the 32F felt right, so I bought two. But the cup isn't full at the top, I have failed to find balconette bras in shops to try on, which I thought would fit better because of shallow issue. I'm going to return the 32F's tomorrow as obviously they do not fit, is it still worth looking for a 30GG? Or have I got my measurements wrong? Any help would be greatly received!

SorrelForbes Sun 04-Aug-13 10:14:30

LousThighBurn It sounds like your boobs are lacking a bit of fullness at the top (they might be shallow too)? Balconette and half cups styles are probably the way to go.

Debenhams Gorgeous range runs very small in the back so it wouldn't surprise me if you did need a 32 in their bras. I'd still try 30 backs in other brands though. I'd try sizes around a 30FF/G/GG but it really is trial and error which bra! I usually try at least three sizes on for each new bra I buy.

Fairylea Sun 04-Aug-13 10:23:37

Lous I have shallow breasts at the top... try plunge styles, like the panache tango plunge or Freya deco. I can't wear full cup bras as I am always left with empty fabric at the top (I am a 30g).

Girlboymummy Sun 04-Aug-13 10:52:30

Hi all I've just measured using the link in the thread and come up with 34 43 any help to what that would make me? Tia.

start with 34g

When I scoop do I bend over to get the breast into the cups correctly or just do it all standing up normally?

i bend forward while putting bra on and scooping, then maybe do a final standing scoop too

Great thanks!

Has anyone tried New Look's bras?

Doubt they will have the size you need unless their range has changed dramatically

LousThighBurn Sun 04-Aug-13 14:18:06

Thank you Sorrel, I thought the sizes may have been around there. Just wearing a tighter band size has made an improvement, I was scooping as much as I could and the cup still looked sorry for itself! I purchased from the Debenhams gorgeous range but they were a full cup style rather than half or balconette, I shall have a really good look tomorrow for the others as my chest is an area I dislike but hopefully once they are supported I may be happier. Thank you for your suggestions too Fairy I had been looking at the Panache bras as I was fitted a few years ago with one and it was lovely. They had a small selection of Freya in Debenhams so I shall see if they have the Deco range. I think my problem is fullness rather than having shallow breasts, I found a link in one of the other bra threads and it seems to be the fullness from breast feeding DS, I imagine once we stop BFing they will look completely different!

chartreuse Sun 04-Aug-13 14:18:58

Statistically, I am currently wearing a 32dd Lejaby which is the most comfortable bra I've had for a while, but I still have issues with falling down straps. My measurements are 30 and 39. What would you recommend I try?

Silverfoxballs Sun 04-Aug-13 14:25:21

Can someone bra brainy do me

30 under bust and 38 bent over on the actual boob.

Falling down straps is a sign the band is too big. Your measurements suggest you need around a 30G Chartreuse

Silverfoxballs 30FF

Fairylea Sun 04-Aug-13 15:41:05

I wouldn't go for a new look bra, sorry. I think if you are anything more than a true c cup then they just aren't going to support you, they don't have the structure or support of a bravissimo bra for example.

Dirtydiana Sun 04-Aug-13 16:05:11

Hi, been reading these threads with interest! Always worn 34a or 32b (M&S!). Just measured myself and got 28.5 under and 35.5. What sizes should I try please?

start with 28F and 28FF

Dirtydiana Sun 04-Aug-13 16:17:51

Thank you!

babyicebean Sun 04-Aug-13 16:25:45

Following the Bra Gurus fitting guide I measure in at 38 underneath and 48 over the top -any ideas?

Thnk you

babyicebean Sun 04-Aug-13 16:28:24

Am in a 38G from BHS but the wiring in th middle has enough space to get three fingers in between it and the bony bit. I tried a 38H and it was massive in the cups so have no idea anymore

chartreuse Sun 04-Aug-13 17:09:46

Will give that a try. Thanks very much smile

baby - the measurements suggest a 38GG, but you will also need to try a variety of shapes and styles

CelticPromise Sun 04-Aug-13 18:12:48

dirtyshirt on the numbers you come up as 34F/FF but if the band's too big then either I reckon your bra has stretched over time and you need new 34s, or perhaps you've not measured really tight and need a 32? Couldn't hurt to try anyway.

I'm another size 16 in a 30 back.

GirlWithTheDirtyShirt Sun 04-Aug-13 21:56:08

Thanks Celtic. I popped into town today and ended up with 34G. They were the best fit with scooping.

I got them from Boux Avenue - they had a great range of larger cup sizes in loads of styles. I was v impressed.

Thanks Statistically for all your help and thanks Fairy for your comment about New Look.

I am going to spend a few hours next Saturday trying on various bras. grin

SorrelForbes Sun 04-Aug-13 22:02:58

I har read that Boux Ave bras come up a bit small in the band and cup.

GirlWithTheDirtyShirt Sun 04-Aug-13 22:08:05

That would explain it then Sorrel

Very impressed with the range though - many more than Bravissimo has had to offer in the past, and some really nice ones too.

I have bridal underwear to buy soon so if anyone has any tips for that it would be appreciated. I imagine its going to be a challenge!

CelticPromise Sun 04-Aug-13 22:49:15

I tried Rigby & Peller for bridal underwear and failed, could not get anything like the lift I needed for my strapless dress. In the end I got a proper old fashioned corset made with steel bones. It was bloody amazing. I love it but have sadly not had many later opportunities to wear it!

Clockers Mon 05-Aug-13 16:02:57

I have been reading these bra threads for ages and have decided to bite the bullet and join in and treat myself to news bras for the first time in years .

So, my underbust is 32 and over bust is 39. Does this make me a 32f ?? I have been in a 36c for years but my bras drive me mad - they always ride up my back and the shoulders fall off!!
Thank you in advance!

CelticPromise Mon 05-Aug-13 16:13:48

Yes start with a 32F. When I first saw the light I went from a 36DD/E to a 32G- what a difference! Happy shopping :-)

Clockers Mon 05-Aug-13 16:36:42

Thanks Celtic - amazing !

SandraBollocks Tue 06-Aug-13 10:49:30

Please could I ask for help too?
I've been reading these threads and cannot believe how wrong I've had it for so many years (hides her M&S 36A t-shirt bras blush)! I measure 29 under boob and 35 over...should I try 30DD? I'm also looking for nice and cheapish padded nursing bras, something I could confidently wear out of the house / when I'm with people...I've tried Emma Janes but they were too big (they want to put me in 34 - ummm, no hmm), although maybe I should go for the smallest one (32)? Are there any other alternatives I should try?

Thank you!

Sandra try 28f 28e 30e and 30dd. bravissimo have nursing bras in those sizes. its also ok to wear wires as long as they fit properly which you might want to do for nights out etc

farrowandbawl Tue 06-Aug-13 19:54:43

I can not thank you ladies enough.

I followed the measurements thread and went from M&S's 32D to my measurements of a 30FF. I had to wait a few weeks until I could afford a bra set and ordered it.

It came today and it only bloody fits like a glove. No spillage, no lumps and bumps, I have 2 boobs instead of 4, they've kept in place ALL DAY without having to be rearranged and I've had to keep looking down my top to make sure. My posture looks better, my clothes hang better, my neck and back doesn't hurt as much - it's like a little miracle.

The only downside is that I'm going to have to buy a whole new range of bras - which is expensive and not easy in my new proper size. Bravissimo are good so far though. Might have to get 1 set a month - provided no massive bills are due out.

Thank you all again.

CelticPromise Tue 06-Aug-13 20:18:24

Yay farrow! You don't always have to pay Bravissimo prices, try, mycurvesandme, Figleaves and Leia outlet sections, Amazon (yes really!) and look in-store at Debenhams sale (but be aware their Gorgeous brand comes up small).

LousThighBurn Tue 06-Aug-13 20:23:13

Farrow Mycurvesandme have a sale on at the moment, and now you know your size have a look on eBay they are a fraction of the usual cost.

I've still not figured out my size,I have tried on 10 bras in the three sizes I could be and I feel hopeless, I feel like sticking my head in the sand and my boobs back in the 34D/DD's. envy-grumpy face!

CelticPromise Tue 06-Aug-13 20:45:38

Louis have you found anything that suits at all? What are the problems?

LousThighBurn Tue 06-Aug-13 22:48:05

Hello Celtic, I seem to lack fullness, I am still breast feeding (DS 2yo). I tried on balconette, half cups and full cups in sizes 30FF,30G,30GG. The band size was near perfect but there was still an issue of the bra not sitting completely flush on my back (bad scooping technique or just carrying extra pounds on my back) and a 32 band would of been too big.

CelticPromise Tue 06-Aug-13 22:59:34

Do you mean you could pull it away from your back? What about a 28? What did you measure?

I would expect balconettes to be the place to start, my boobs are not very full either especially at the top, and I get on better with them.

LousThighBurn Tue 06-Aug-13 23:13:39

I'm sorry for the post hijack!
I couldn't pull the 30 away from my back but could put my fingers underneath the band.The 32 was easy to pull away in the M&S bras I tried on, but the debenhams gorgeous range fit like a 30. I hadn't thought of trying a 28. My measurements are 30 under and 40 over. The balconette didn't lift my bust enough, they filled the cup but they were flat at the top rather than rounded. I tried a DD and an E and that remedied the flat issue but I wasn't in the cup fully. I'll have to drive to my nearest Bravissimo and have a fitting as Debenhams is hit and miss.

CelticPromise Tue 06-Aug-13 23:34:16

Louis try going up in the cup? Your measurements put you at a GG and you may need to try either side. M&S don't do FF and their bras in bigger cup sizes are not brilliant IME. Debenhams Gorgeous do indeed come up small in the band but also in the cup. If you've tried a G/GG in those brands chances are it might be too small. Don't be afraid to go up and scoop like crazy. Having said that, if you're not getting much lift it could be the band is too big, so maybe try a 28 just to see? You'd need an H though. Bravissimo we great if you can get there.

LousThighBurn Wed 07-Aug-13 08:51:35

Thank you so much for your help Celtic I'll try that today. I was put off trying a bigger cup because of not having the fullness in other cups.

WheresMyCow Wed 07-Aug-13 10:36:01

Hve lurked on many of the bra threads but never posted as I was quite happy that I was wearing the right size (was 34F/FF after finishing breastfeeding DS).

However, I have been losing weight and am now at my target and know that my bras are too big now. I had anticipated going down to a 32, just wasn't sure on the cup size, but I have measured this morning and have got measurements of 29 and 37 - would this put me in a 28/30 FF?


SorrelForbes Wed 07-Aug-13 11:06:35

Try a 28G/FF and 30FF/F

peanutbuttersarnies Wed 07-Aug-13 12:30:01

Hi everyone. I normally wear 34c. Just measured and think i am 31 -37 or 38. Bought a 32e feels amazing! Like my whole posture has changed. I cant believe the difference. I can still pull away the band a fair but though. Easily 1-2 inches. Do you think i should actually try ordering 30f? Or 30g? I am strugglibg to get my head around me being an e cup, letalone anythibg bigger!

farrowandbawl Wed 07-Aug-13 12:34:26

Peanut, the best thing you can do is order a 30F and try it, if you keep the tags just return it if it doesn't feel right.

<The difference a good fitting bra makes is amazing isn't it?>

SorrelForbes Wed 07-Aug-13 12:35:56

How does the cup feel? If it fits fine then yes, try a 30F. If you've scooped and got any overspill or quadboob, try a 30G.

peanutbuttersarnies Wed 07-Aug-13 12:45:40

Thanks. I am trully amazed. I think i will need to go down to 30. I can feel the band spins round a bit when i turn ti the side.
Thanks for the help.

SorrelForbes Wed 07-Aug-13 12:56:07

Yep, it certainly sounds like a 30 would be better. Be aware though that Debenhams Gorgeous range comes up very small in the back as do some M&S bras. Panache bands tend to be stiffer and smaller than Freya and Fantasie. Curvy Kate tend to come up big in the band.

peanutbuttersarnies Wed 07-Aug-13 16:27:36

Great. Thanks for the tips.

Minimammoth Thu 08-Aug-13 19:39:57

Help please. I have long thought that my bra does not fit, have been measured by private underware boutiques MnS and house of Fraser. Never had a big bust, but have plenty of folds and softness around armpits etc. I measure just over 32 around the band and 38 on the drop forward. So that's a 32E? I am a bit scared that that is going to be way too tight. Should one be breathing in or out when measuring?

Yup, start with a 32E. Don't worry about it being too tight - it should feel firm, but not too tight. DOn't bother trying M&S as their bras are all over the place just now size wise

Minimammoth Thu 08-Aug-13 19:52:48

Looking at the Tshirt bra on Bravisimo, the panache porcelains bra. By the way, am way past menopause so no monthly fluctuations. Anyone tried this one?

CelticPromise Thu 08-Aug-13 20:39:26

Haven't tried it myself but Bravissimo are great for customer service, you get free returns until you get the right fit so it's worth a try.

SorrelForbes Thu 08-Aug-13 21:09:57

I've tried it but it wasn't great for me as it cut in across the top of my boobs. Just the wrong shape I guess. Seemed a nice bra though.

Minimammoth Thu 08-Aug-13 21:17:46

That's good to know Celtic thanks. I will order. Meanwhile I might try bra shop in town to experiment with new sizing.

I think from reading a few bra forums that most people seem to get on with either the bravissimo satine, the panache porcelain, or the freya deco. Nobody gets on with all of them but generally one of them works!

WheresMyCow Fri 09-Aug-13 09:31:11

Thanks for the advise on sizing - does anyone know what Lepel bra's are like sizing wise?

I got two off the local market yesterday (bargain at £1 each so worth a try!) one a 30F and the other a 30FF. The 30 band seems to be the right size, currently feels a little tight, but that's because I have been wearing a 34. I have scooped and in the F the cup still seems to be a little small, and the FF seems to be a little big. I know that it could be the style of the bra, but just wondered if anyone had any experience of them.

SorrelForbes Fri 09-Aug-13 09:35:04

I used to half a couple of the Lepel Fiore full cup bras (they look more like a balconette but there is a balconette in the range - confusing!). IIRC they ran very true to size.

Sounds like a style issue tbh. Was it the top of the cup on the 30FF that was too big?

WheresMyCow Fri 09-Aug-13 10:56:56

Yes it was the top of the cup. Once I scooped and adjusted the shoulder straps, it did seem big at the top. I tried re-scooping and filled it a bit more but was still abit big

SorrelForbes Fri 09-Aug-13 11:14:08

Hmmm. Was it more of a full cup style?

WheresMyCow Fri 09-Aug-13 11:21:20

Yes it was more of a full cup - a bit similar to the one in your link. I did write down the style names so that I could look them up but left them at home blush

SorrelForbes Fri 09-Aug-13 11:35:06

Ok, the one in the link certianlu fits more like a balconette so it would be good to know the style name. Try some half cup styles if you can

WheresMyCow Fri 09-Aug-13 11:43:19

The 30F is this one Lepel Constance and I think the 30FF is this one Lepel Bouquet

SorrelForbes Fri 09-Aug-13 13:12:17

The Constance is a lovely bra but definitely a full cup and therefore probably not great if your boobs have more fullness on the bottom. It may be that the 30FF would be fine though and likewise for the 30F in the Bouquet. It really is trial and error for every single bra. None will fit exactly the same for your shape, even in the same brand.

It's always best the try the same size in the same bra toget a proper comparison.

WheresMyCow Fri 09-Aug-13 13:51:55

I guess that's what you get for buying bra's for £1 off the market!! I did actually have a look to see if they had both of the ones that I bought in the other sizes so that I could compare, but they didn't. Still I haven't wasted much and they fit much better than my old 34FF's until I can to somewhere decent like Bravissimo to try some on.

Thanks for all your help

SorrelForbes Fri 09-Aug-13 13:53:59

You're welcome. TBH for £1 each I'd wear them, especially if the fit is only slightly off!

Pontouf Fri 09-Aug-13 14:38:40

Ok, I really need help! I am currently wearing a 40D. The middle bit doesn't sit flat against my chest and the back rides up. Also the bra straps constantly fall off my shoulders so I guessed I needed to measure myself using the bra guru guidlelines. I measure a 38ish round my rib cage and 48 round my boobs. This makes me a 38G/GGish????!!!!! Surely I cannot be that far out? Surely?!!!!

SorrelForbes Fri 09-Aug-13 14:55:11

Yep you can grin. Try a 38GG and even a 36H.

Pontouf Fri 09-Aug-13 17:16:15

Ok I'll give it a go. Seems ridiculous though! Thank you smile

Minimammoth Fri 09-Aug-13 22:45:23

I have ventured into my small local bra emporium. The lady fitted me with a 32E in agreement with my suggestion, it fits great. It's a Fantasie T shirt bra but after wearing for an hour or so I am finding the armpit fit near the strap is really rubbing. Is there a solution for this or do I need. Different make.

tedmundo Sat 10-Aug-13 10:53:52

hi .. Can I ask for an intervention please??

3 DCs and finally I think this is how my boobs will be from now on. No more pregnancy and breast feeding for me!


29" under the boob
35" across the boobs bent forward (tightening slightly over the nips as they stick out!)

I am wearing a 32 B as diagnosed by M&s. never feels great. Or looks great either .

Where am I heading ladies?

AuntPepita Sat 10-Aug-13 10:56:25

28e for starters!

farrowandbawl Sat 10-Aug-13 11:09:36

Agreed, 28 E

tedmundo Sat 10-Aug-13 11:16:00

E? E? For these sad little bumps?!

Wow, well I will give it a go. Heading up to John Lewis this week to try to sort myself out. I will try a 28 E ..

Thank you for those swift replies.

SorrelForbes Sat 10-Aug-13 11:28:53

Yep, 28 E (and going by some of the ladies I know with smaller measurements than you, possibly even an F in some styles). Remember that an E cup on a 28 band bears no resemblance in size to an E cup on a 32 band! Excellent article here

Minimammoth Sat 10-Aug-13 12:00:50

Changed chafing bra for different model slightly different sizing, 34 band on next hooks. Ok so far. Bravissimo bra arrived today, the panache porcelaine, feels lovely and comfortable, straps not chaffing.
Thank you everyone.

Chubfuddler Sat 10-Aug-13 12:35:06

Ok please could someone do me? I'm so pear shaped I'm practically a triangle.

30 rib cage
34 dangly boobs

Is that a 30D? I'm currently in a 34c and its much too big.

farrowandbawl Sat 10-Aug-13 13:11:39

It is a 30D

The 34c is too big because the band is way too big for you, meaning the cups are out as well.

Chubfuddler Sat 10-Aug-13 13:14:26

Thank you I will try it. Sounds both tiny and huge, page 3 model size almost!

farrowandbawl Sat 10-Aug-13 13:20:54

I know what you mean. 30FF here and I measured 4 times to make sure I was right.

It is all in proportion to the rest of your body though so it's not as though they'll look like missiles stuck to the front of your ribcage.

SorrelForbes Sat 10-Aug-13 14:21:14

Trust me, page 3 models are usually more in the range of 26/28 HH and upwards. Katie Price is probably something like a 26JJ

BeingMoreDog Sat 10-Aug-13 16:09:38

Gosh, tesco are pretty rubbish at bras, aren't they? Tried to get a cheapy as am still BFing and just wanted a pretty underwired one for occasional use.

I measure a 30E. The smallest chest size they do is 32. I tried a couple of 32DDs - one actually fitted well, but the other one's band was several cm shorter!

Then I read their fitting instructions, and they go for the 'add 4' as well [hmmm].

Although their instructions say that, the bras won't actually fit if you add 4...

babyicebean Sat 10-Aug-13 18:00:21

I bought a Curley Kate in a 38GG as suggested size wise, only problem now is I can't see my feet as my boobs now are front and centre instead of slouching around like a stroppy teen. Husband is impressed and has said he will buy me more when he gets paid grin

tedmundo Mon 12-Aug-13 21:36:22

Couldn't get to JL over the weekend so just tried to order a few bras to local M&S thinking I would try them at home and take back the rejects....

Well, they have NO 28E's online. Everything I liked started at a 32.

I have found some in my size for a brand called Freya. Have ordered 2 to try. Is this a good make? I am so keen to get going on the new boob dressing that this set back has really got my goat!

CelticPromise Mon 12-Aug-13 22:31:31

Freya are a good brand. Once you know your size you can pick them up on sale from Debenhams or Brastop.

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