Is everyone doing push eyeliner now?

(57 Posts)
Keztrel Sun 14-Jul-13 21:50:50

I've only just heard of it. What's so good about it? Does it make your eyes look as big as they do with a thick, slightly flicked line on the top lashes like I normally do?

cafenoir Sun 14-Jul-13 22:17:17

This one has passed me by too. Off to google!

Keztrel Sun 14-Jul-13 22:29:54

I saw a good blogpost on it on a blog called stuffiputonmyself.

southeastastra Sun 14-Jul-13 22:38:57

is it just the brush? to be honest you can just buy a cheap artists brush in the same shape and use that before splashing out. i always use those flat brushes for face painting fine lines so i guess it works on the same principal.

UserError Sun 14-Jul-13 22:57:13

I've been doing this for about five years. I didn't know it had a name!

That's pretty well what I do using a dark matt brown powder and brown-black mascara. It is natural looking but effective.

Vibbe Sun 14-Jul-13 23:51:32

I use it with a dark brown eye shadow (MAC Mystery). I'm quite fair and liquid eyeliner and khol seem too harsh and too much for day makeup. It lasts much longer on me than khol/eye pencils.

I'm blind as a bat without glasses/lenses on, and the push liner method is easier for me to work with.

I've been doing this for a couple of years, and I use the brush from MAC, which is very good.

Blind as a bat here too, agree it's easier. It's also a bit more forgiving than pencils / liquids now I'm a bit older and the skin on my eyelids isn't quite as smooth and taut as it used to be. I can still use gel with an angled brush but that is more dramatic and only used for nights out.

KeepYerTitsIn Mon 15-Jul-13 00:11:19

This has been around for years, it's actually called tightlining. Laura Mercier was the first makeup artist to talk about it and I believe she invented the term.

ThatVikRinA22 Mon 15-Jul-13 00:13:07

enlighten me....what is it?

DollyWhite Mon 15-Jul-13 00:16:56

I do this, didn't know it had a name. I use clinique quickliner, which is like an eyeshadow in a pencil, at least I think so.

Vibbe Mon 15-Jul-13 00:36:09

I think tightlining is using an eyeliner (pencil, liquid, gel, powder) on the upper waterline.

Push liner is pushing a powder product into the lash line (not necessarily the waterline) with a flat brush like the MAC 212.
Push liner is explained here:

KateMiddletonsMum Mon 15-Jul-13 00:38:02

Filling in the wee gaps in your lashes from the top down, making you look like you have thick lashes, using a flat brush? Not sure if to use wet or dry shadow though?

ThatVikRinA22 Mon 15-Jul-13 01:05:28

interesting! might try this one....

anyone have recommendations for a brush / eyeliner?

garlicsmutty Mon 15-Jul-13 01:29:20

Ooh, thanks for the link to Wayne Goss, Vibbe! He's actually watchable smile There's only so much 'squeee' I can take - love his no-fuss delivery.
Turns out I've been pushing my eyeliner forever, too; things you find out, eh? I've not been using a straight brush, though. I have a stubby diagonal one, which I cut down myself, but will try cutting a flat paint brush across and see if it works better. I tend to use powder shadow for the 'push', just on the outer third, then line the inside of the lid with a pencil.

Tightlining is where you lift the upper lashes and put the liner underneath them on the rim I thought, slightly different. I've never tried it as I wear contacts and think it eould get on them.

I always use a brush to push liner in between the lashes - it looks less harsh and aging

Leviticus Mon 15-Jul-13 07:34:28

WhoKnows I wear contacts and it doesn't get in your eyes.

I had no idea it was called tightlining but I was shown how to do this by an assistant in Space NK using wetted Laura Mercia powder eyeliner in Bleu Marine and a Space NK flat brush.

I did it for my wedding as I'm fair and wanted definition but just hated the look of a line on my eyelids. It makes a huge difference and I do it every day with a black soft pencil from the Body Shop now.

I'm going to Google pushlining today as well though. It's the gap between mascara and lid liner I don't like the look of on me.

Keztrel Mon 15-Jul-13 08:00:20

So push liner is pushing the liner into your lash line from above the top lashes, and tightlining is pushing the liner into your lash line from below the top lashes? Then there's just wacking liner on the waterline (which def makes my eyes look smaller)?

Keztrel Mon 15-Jul-13 08:00:58


Keztrel Mon 15-Jul-13 08:10:52

Thanks for the YouTube video Vibbe, just watched it. I like that guy, will have to look for his other videos now. He's extremely clear.

valiumredhead Mon 15-Jul-13 09:32:05

I've been doing this since the 80's!

slug Mon 15-Jul-13 10:23:30

Don't do the tightliner if your eyes are a bit watery. I've had it done on me twice by the Lauren Mercier makeup artists in Spack NK and each time it's ended up on my cheeks withing an hour and my eyes are itching like crazy (contact lens wearer)

Slug - thanks, I won't try it then, one of my eyes is very prone to watering. Having said that 30 years of contact lens wearing means I'm very comfortable poking around my eyes and if I get an eyelash in there (for example) it doesn't bother them much at all.

Keztrel Mon 15-Jul-13 14:11:30

Right, I have found a brush and bought some Mac Typographic eye shadow. Very excited to try this tomorrow morning! It's obviously not a new thing but I would never have thought to have done it if people hadn't started going on about it recently.

surely putting liner on inner rim would cause it to run off into eye?

Just watched video, I think I get it now.
Still, I predict I would look like a panda if I try this.
These things rarely work well for me, I wonder if it's because I am very pale and blonde (dark blonde lashes and brows though)?

Literally any dark shadow just makes me look like I've been punched.
I do wear liquid liner though on top outer third of eye with a slight wing. This works well for me in brown if done lightly.

Keztrel Mon 15-Jul-13 15:38:27

I should think it would work in whatever colour mascara you usually wear, so you don't have to go really dark with the shadow. I wear the blackest mascara possible so have gone for black shadow. Hoping it doesn't run - this heat will be a good test!

MrsLettuce Mon 15-Jul-13 20:19:18

I do this (and a little wing) with a Maybelline gel liner. works very well

MrsLettuce Mon 15-Jul-13 20:21:07

OK, couldn't resist, tried it with a brown eyeliner pencil (the tightlining that is), as I already had on brown black mascara and brown shadow line above lashes. No adverse effects on contact lenses, or watering, but it didn't really show either.

Keztrel Mon 15-Jul-13 22:26:37

You need to do it before mascara. I tried it after mascara too and your lashes are too stiff to wiggle the brush among them properly.

I only use a very light touch of mascara, and only brush it on from about half way up the length of the lashes (I use brown-black to match their natural colour) so they don't get stiff. I do the powder above the lash beforehand though as I don't want clumps of powder sticking to the mascara. I'll try again tomorrow.

Keztrel Tue 16-Jul-13 13:19:22

Did the push liner today and been wearing it all morning - no smudging or running or irritation, even though it's v hot. I like how it looks like very thick, pretty eyelashes without looking like liner - it's definitely a different look from just mascara.

But I don't look made up enough to me (code for: my eyes look smaller). Will persevere though because I think I'm just too used to seeing my eyes with a thick black line of gel liner. Might be nice to have a natural look for a change.

valiumredhead Tue 16-Jul-13 13:30:42

Super dry MUA eye shadows are fantastic for this as they are so highly pigmented and last ages.

garlicagain Tue 16-Jul-13 13:33:26

Keztrel, try pushing through your lashes and onto your lid at the outer third of the eyes, then extend the corner by pushing sideways kind of thing.

(Good thing I didn't become a make-up teacher, isn't it?!)

This eye-lining technique won't give you big, black pointy eyes because it's supposed to be subtle & shadowy - it's basically a kohl effect. You can, though, get big, smoky eyes by colouring the edge of the lid through the lashes, then doing the waterline.

Keztrel Tue 16-Jul-13 14:55:07

garlicagain I don't really understand what you mean blush

But I do love the phrase 'big, black pointy eyes' grin

Are you just saying 'put more on'? I can do that!

Bourjois have an eyeliner pen with three tiny tips (like a fork) which is supposed to be for pushing into the eyelashes - I tried it and it was too black for me, also hard to avoid the final effect being uneven (I have very pale skin).

garlicagain Tue 16-Jul-13 15:07:15

Are you just saying 'put more on'?

Erm, yes! grin

valiumredhead Tue 16-Jul-13 15:15:21

Push-it's such a daft name for it....

garlicagain Tue 16-Jul-13 15:19:36

I've just realised this is what Mum used to do with cake mascara! It came with a brush like this ^^ I see it's back on the market - might get some next payday smile

Keztrel Tue 16-Jul-13 15:22:37

valium it is a silly name, agreed! I wonder if someone just came up with a new name for an old technique, to re-market certain brushes and liners. Either way, if they hadn't I wouldn't have tried it unless someone showed me how.

valiumredhead Tue 16-Jul-13 15:28:02

My first every mascara was a cake onegrin -- that you spat in--

MrsLettuce Tue 16-Jul-13 15:37:01

Yup, my DM used that stuff too. Btush was a bit different to the one above but she definitely stippled the roots of the lashes as well as applying to th e length.

garlicagain Tue 16-Jul-13 16:17:09

I couldn't find one without the comb on the back, Lettuce!

MrsLettuce Tue 16-Jul-13 16:27:34

Does anyone know if it's worth investing a proper brush?

I'm using an angled mac one which is supposed to be for brows (208 I think), from when my eyes were less hooded and I could wear proper, dramatic liner. More control would be handy - I'm well used to doing it but it remains a faff. Would spending the best part of 20 pounds on the 212 make that much difference?

Which MAC brush is it?

SorrelForbes Wed 17-Jul-13 07:53:21

I just use a brush that I got free with something! It's got a thin angled head and does the job. I've seen something similar in Boots.

TBH I get pretty much the same result whether I push the shadow in just above or just below the lashes.

MrsLettuce Wed 17-Jul-13 09:29:19

this one here here is an 'official' push brush, tedious. this is what I'm using ATM but with my (increasingly) hooded eyes, not so tip top vision and cack-handedness it's a bit tricky.

I'm going to have a rummage in the chemist for something similar but TBH I'm loath to waste my money on a series of cheaper brushes which don't cut the mustard. IM-picky-and-perfectionist-E it's very easy to spend the price of a quality brush on 3 or 4 failures looking for a 'bargain' - am tempted to go straight to mac this time. THe brushes of theirs I have are 6+ years old but still as good as new - still hold their shape perfectly have never shed a single hair. 25 euros though. uurgh.

MrsLettuce Wed 17-Jul-13 09:35:48

Have been push lining for an age so it's not a question of getting the technique down, unfortunately. I used to add a line of liner too which made the angled brush a perfect choice, but I can't really get away with that any more - have gradually moved to just the push liner and the tiny wee wing I can fit before my extended hood crease.

Keztrel Wed 17-Jul-13 10:49:56

I know what you mean about crappy brushes MrsLettuce. I think the Body Shop ones are really good (not sure if they have a push brush). The brush I'm using is from Ruby and Millie and at least 10 years old, and was about £8. It's the same shape and size as the Mac one but the bristles are slightly longer - it's still v stiff and works for pushing. I think as long as you have a brush that's the right shape and the bristles feel good, not too fluffy or plasticky or soft, you'll be fine whether it cost £2 or £25.

Am liking the push liner a bit more today, but then I'm having a good skin day and look less tired overall, so that might be why.

MrsLettuce Wed 17-Jul-13 11:03:05

Have you tried adding a slim line of normal liner as well as teh push thing? Very nice indeed.

Keztrel Wed 17-Jul-13 11:08:05

No I haven't, will do that tomorrow MrsLettuce - you are my make up guru at the moment! grin

Vibbe Wed 17-Jul-13 11:18:01

I use the MAC 212 brush, and it's very good. I haven't tried other brushes in the same shape, so I have nothing to compare with. But the 212 keeps its shape after many washes and is stiff enough to work with, but not so stiff that it's uncomfortable.

Personally, I can't use an angled brush (I have MAC 263) to push the colour into the lashes. I can draw a line along the lashes with the brush and do a wing, but it's not the same as pushing the colour into the lashes.

Pompbear Wed 17-Jul-13 20:42:38

I just tried it and I love it!! Peacocks have a brow kit for £5 - I used the black colour for my eyeliner. The brow colours and brushes ate OK too - a nice bargain! Quality wise its similarto my bodyshop brow kit - the peacocks one has morecolours too

There's a name for this? I've been doing it for years! Ooh I'm never ahead of the trends. <proud>

garlicagain Wed 17-Jul-13 21:07:53

Nice find, Pomp!

MrsL, those flat-ended, flat-sided brushes are called stippling brushes by artists. If you have a art shop handy, go in and examine the brushes! You can pick the exact size & depth you want.

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