Does anyone else now wince after reading the bra threads on here...

(543 Posts)
showtunesgirl Tue 09-Jul-13 13:05:33

...when encountering people who go: Oh I'm a 34A when they really are most probably not?

I am finding it hard to convince people out of believing their M & S sizes and refer them to the bra gurus fitting guide. But it's so deeply ingrained into common thinking that anything over a D is massive and that they MUST be a 34/36 frame even when they are blatantly smaller than me and I measure as a 32!

wiltingfast Tue 09-Jul-13 13:07:41

Oh yeah, I was in HoF and there was this tiny little woman saying she was a 34C, no WAY. Not a murmur from the assistant either she just handed her the size requested.

It's like the default size for small women, oh I must be a 34C 'cause I'm small but my boobs aren't massive, no sirree....

showtunesgirl Tue 09-Jul-13 13:09:27

People look at me like I'm mad when I tell them that I'm a 32FF/G. I swear they're thinking: No, YOU'VE got it wrong. Little do they know! grin

SorrelForbes Tue 09-Jul-13 13:13:51

I confess, I'm totally obsessed and spend a lot of time looking at other people's boobs blush. Friends and family now let me 'intervene' them just to shut me up. I will admit to a couple of in-store interventions too. The women concerned were like this shock confused

noisytoys Tue 09-Jul-13 13:15:44

Wiltingfast, pre MN bra threads I wore a 34c. My true size is now a 32DD. Instant boob job grin

googietheegg Tue 09-Jul-13 13:18:23

This sounds awesome!!! I'm in m&s 36dd and some Freya 34f bras! How do I know if they're right? Is there a magic MN norkage algorithm?

Naoko Tue 09-Jul-13 13:22:11

Yup. Sometimes I look at another woman and just cannot help but notice her boobs and how she is clearly wearing the wrong size bra, which sooner or later is going to give someone the wrong idea and lead to a very awkward conversation. I've interventioned a few friends too. One I'm still working on, she does believe me but for some reason won't actually apply this to herself and I can't exactly physically drag her into a fitting room now can I...

MotherofDragons82 Tue 09-Jul-13 13:24:37

Agreed. I got measured in Mothercare for a feeding bra a couple of weeks ago (I know, I know) and laughed out loud when the assistant told me I was a 36DD.
The same day, I was fitted perfectly in a Freya 30FF.

Calamitykate Tue 09-Jul-13 13:30:37

I'm obsessed too!

I've finally found the elusive "Job I'd do for nothing". Shame there aren't any around.

AgathaF Tue 09-Jul-13 13:32:07

googie have a look at any of the bra intervention threads on S&B. Alternatively, post your measurements here and someone will give you an idea of size. Measure tightly under your boobs around your rib cage, then lean forward to boobs are falling forward and measure around the largest measurement.

I have to bite my tongue not to stop total strangers in the street at times. I've seen so many older ladies (50s/60s/70s) in such badly fitting bras, not to mention the young, tiny women wearing 34s.

acrabadabra Tue 09-Jul-13 13:37:52

I'm in a 36G/38F though haven't been measured for ages. My bras are embarrassing and old. I have no time to go into the city to get fitted at bravisimo. I have been promising myself since I had ds. Hes now 3.7. Dd is 2. I don't want to order online as its highly unlikely it won't cost a fortune in returns.

Wish someone offered an at home service.

Littlepumpkinpie Tue 09-Jul-13 13:52:28

I have never read a bra thread but. I was wearing correct size. I then weight gained 2 stone last year after shedding the weight I was not sure why my old size was not fitting properly. I had dropped a back size after so much exercise now my 28f boobs are even harder to buy for. although 30dd is a little easier smile

AgathaF Tue 09-Jul-13 14:21:18

Brastop do free returns acrabadabra. Got a sale on at the moment too grin.

acrabadabra there are some places which do free returns - brastop and amazon spring to mind.

bra guru guide to fitting here

Wowserz129 Tue 09-Jul-13 14:30:28

I measured myself as a 34E using the thread on here and went into bravissimo and got them to check that the 34E and they said I was right so bought 3 bras. Got home and when I wear them and walk around my nips pop out!!!!! Is there a size for that blush? My cousin who is 12 wears a 32C and she is tiny and measures 27 inches under bust but she won't listen to me!

Sounds like you need to go up in the cup wowserz! If Bravissimo fitted then take em back, they will replace if they get it wrong. Sometimes things look ok standing still - I walk around , jump etc when trying bras on

EstelleGetty Tue 09-Jul-13 14:42:07

I was wearing a 34DD for years. I went to Freya at HoF and came out a 32F. Total revelation! My boobs are big, but not huge, and I don't have an especially narrow back so I was very surprised. A good bra technician has access to black magic which mere mortals can't fathom!

SorrelForbes Tue 09-Jul-13 14:43:49

BraStop are offering a further 15% off their sale stuff with the code WAVE.

34B here. I'm not... blush way to big on my back. off to measure myself!

Poor dh gets a running commentary about whether people on the telly have bras that fit or not.

ouryve Tue 09-Jul-13 19:50:54

Abracadabra - figleaves have free returns (so long as you have a full price item in your order - something I got stung by, today, after sale shopping. I shall have to remember that one for the future!)

Some of the bras on Amazon are free to return, too. They have some bargains there.

ouryve Tue 09-Jul-13 19:53:34

I picked up a 32G Curvy Kate bra, today. Last time I was this weight, i was squeezed into 34DD!

ShoeWhore Tue 09-Jul-13 19:54:49

Free returns and exchange at Bravissimo too - and if something doesn't fit you can ring them up and they will suggest alternative sizes to try.

PoppyAmex Tue 09-Jul-13 19:56:02

I've spent a fortune on very expensive bras an have never found a comfortable one. They are always too right at he back and the straps fall of my shoulders no matter how much I shorten them. confused

poppy what do you measure and what sizes are you trying

Omfg!! I have been wearing 34/36 a/b bras. I have just measured myself according to the bra guru apparently I should be a 30dd! That can't be right, can it?

It most certainly can chaos - it's quite a common size change actually.

MadBusLady Tue 09-Jul-13 20:30:19

Yes, I've become an inadvertant perv on public transport. Bad bras are really noticeable when you're all squashed together and there's not much else to look at except bits of other people's bodies.

grin at "MN norkage algorithm"

I don't say anything to anyone but I now really notice when people have badly fitted bras. I don't understand how they can be comfortable in something that doesn't fit properly

WeAreSix Tue 09-Jul-13 20:35:03

There's a mum at school who I often walk with. Her bra strap is so far up her back its almost on her neck.

It's like a spot waiting to be squeezed... I want to measure her on the spot!!!

However. I am wearing my first proper Bravissimo fitted nursing bra (wore 34D previous feeding times this is a 30F and I'm no different!) but this is the first time I've had problems with breast pain. Likely a blocked duct which can be caused by ill-fitting bras confused

googietheegg Tue 09-Jul-13 20:37:32

How far forward are we leaning here? Can anyone give me an idea of gradient?

And...I know one of my boobs is bigger than the other smile wtf does THAT do to this whole charade that is my bra/boob situ?

WeAreSix - how does the bra feel otherwise, and is it a wired or non wired bra?

googietheegg - as close to 90 degrees as you can manage. Measure as you are size wise, but you will want to try sizes around and read the article on the blog about asymmetry

WeAreSix Tue 09-Jul-13 20:41:42

Not wired.

Feels ok. The cups are a lot higher up than I'm used to, but that's just the design I think.

The back sits nicely. Cups a little loose after a feed but seem ok as milk refills if that makes sense.

Maybe I should measure again? I've just fed so it'd be at my smallest b

Ilovemyteddy Tue 09-Jul-13 20:42:46

I went from a 42c to a 34E when I went to Rigby and Peller and got properly fitted. My boobs are around my ankles when I'm bra-less <old gimmer> but they look great when I'm wearing my ridiculously expensive R&P bra grin

well im not 34 inches I'm 31! also I've done the boobs forward thing and I'm 33 inch there? What does this mean other than I'm wearing the wrong bra grin

browneyed so is that 31 under, 33 over? in that case try 30B, 30C, 32B and 32A. But, how does your current 34B fit - do you feel like you fill the cups? If so these sizes might be too small in the cup

ooh found bra guru so im wearing 34B and should be trying 30B. Thanks for this thread!

Okay, okay - can someone please tell me what size bra I should be wearing??

Just measured, and am 32 inches under breasts and about 37 inches when leaning forward and measuring...

ChristineDaae Tue 09-Jul-13 20:54:33

If I post my measurements will someone work mine out? Pretty sure I'm doing it wrong blush

peppafuckingpig (amen to that name) try a 32DD to start

Christinedaae - post away!

Mermi Tue 09-Jul-13 20:57:03

I've been told since I was 12 that I'm a 34 A/B, which I knew wasn't right because my bras drive me insane with the constant adjusting and riding up, and because I've grown considerably since puberty (obviously).

Just measured myself and I'm a 32E apparently

take that teenage boys who called me flat chested

I'm off shopping.

ChristineDaae Tue 09-Jul-13 20:58:16

Ok so 33" under, 41" doing the leaning over boob thing?

Try a 32G, 32FF, 34FF, 34F.The 32s are more likely as most people with slightly bigger cup sizes seem to get on better rounding down in the back

Weekipper Tue 09-Jul-13 20:59:56

I used the algorithm yesterday. Measure 37cm round ribs and boobs are 44. I found a 36 FF much better than my 40C. Happy days!

I am most grateful to MN as I had been wearing a 34A for years. I am so not. I did vaguely wonder why the back always ended up under my armpits!!!

StatisticallyChallenged - piss off!!! shock shock shock grin

I'm currently wearing a 34A - and have never tried a bra bigger than a b cup before - and I find that the cups on the A bra are too loose! I've always considered myself really flat chested - is it possible that i'm suddenly going to transform into a busty, buxom brunette with the help of a correctly fitted bra!? wink

WeAreSix Tue 09-Jul-13 21:04:07

Ok. New measurements

29 under.

37.5 / 38 over.

Does that make my 30F not quite right?

Hahaha Peppa. The thing is, the cups on the A are gapingbecause the back is all wrong. So it won't hold the cups in place properly. A DD cup on a 32 back is not particularly big - honestly

wearesix - the 30F is within the range but could be a sniff small in the cup, but with non wired it is more a case of fit as they vary a bit. On those sizes I would normally suggest trying a 28G/GG and a 30FF/G.

ChristineDaae Tue 09-Jul-13 21:07:44

Wow!! I wasn't doing it wrong! Insane. I've been wearing 34/36 D/DD fir the last 10 years!!

My flabber is ghasted. I'll try a 32DD bra on as soon as I can, and report back! Thank you grin

WeAreSix Tue 09-Jul-13 21:10:01

My flabber got ghasted with PeppaFuckingPig

I'm a petite, not so flat chested size 8!!!

dexter73 Tue 09-Jul-13 21:10:34

I am 32" under and 38" over - could some kind person tell me what size that is please?

SorrelForbes Tue 09-Jul-13 21:11:46

dexter73 try a 32E and sizes around that (e.g. 32F, 32FF)

dexter73, try a 32E to start

skaen Tue 09-Jul-13 21:12:23

I'm fitted properly but wince every time I go into M&S and realise they still don't have anything with a less than 32" back. Even there you only get up to a b cup. Completely rubbish.

dexter73 Tue 09-Jul-13 21:12:45

Cheers! Will have a try on soon!

WeAreSix Tue 09-Jul-13 21:15:08

The back size thing irritates the hell out of me. I was looking at some strapless bras (not nursing) and the smallest back for an F cup was a 34.

Manufacturers just don't seem to have grasped the concept of real women.

ModreB Tue 09-Jul-13 21:15:27

42DD does me right every time. But according to DH, I'm "talented" grin

intarsia Tue 09-Jul-13 21:17:47

I love watching these bra threads unfold...
The scooping is so important ladies. Grab those norks and all of the backfat and scoop round into the cups Details on the Bra Guru website.
With regular scooping over the last few months I've retrained my nork tissue into its rightful place and have gone from 34D to DD and my last one was an E!

angeltulips Tue 09-Jul-13 21:19:13

I must admit to being an mn heretic on this topic - I just don't believe that basically all mners are a 34 inch back or less. And who on earth has back fat that you can scoop into the front of a bra? Surely this cannot be a common thing?

(In my defence I mentioned it to a r&p fitter and she said it was bollocks that the band should be tight to the point of being uncomfortable - which seems to be what is advocated on here.)

Alibabaandthe40nappies Tue 09-Jul-13 21:22:50

angel - the back will feel tight to start with because someone isn't used to it.
And it is really common to have back fat that could be scooped into a bra cup. I see women all day long who have lumpy backs, bulging underarms, with the back strap halfway to their ears.

WeAreSix Tue 09-Jul-13 21:25:55

Discomfort is not advocated at all. Not at all.

You can't deny that changing from an ill fitting 36 band to a 32 (for example) that the wearer will need to get used to it feeling tighter. That may be slightly uncomfortable at first but if its prolonged then we've been urged to be refitted.

goodasitgets Tue 09-Jul-13 21:27:03

Well the support comes from the band, the shoulder straps should do v little
I'm a size 16 in a 34 band but can also wear a 32 and its not in the slightest bit uncomfortable

intarsia Tue 09-Jul-13 21:28:16

A lot of what we think of as fat is actually breast tissue which has been pushed out of place by underwires which are too small. That's got to be bad for you, having breast tissue being squeezed backwards

schooldidi Tue 09-Jul-13 21:29:16

I've been a properly fitted bra fanatic for about 8 years, ever since my sister too me to a fab little independent bra shop. The woman there took one look at me, asked what size I was wearing, and immediately knew what size I should be wearing (a completely different size!) I went in a 40DD and came out a 36G.

She seemed to do what is suggested on here (and also told me never, ever to trust a bra fitter in a dept store) and she made me lean over and "jiggle" into the cup properly.

I now find myself itching to fit everyone at work properly, but it really isn't the done thing to go up to other teachers and say "you're wearing the wrong bra, let me help you with that", and it would go down even worse with the pupils.

Back should be firm not "tight to the point of uncomfortable". I don't think any of us have ever advocated that so maybe you've misinterpreted?

(and then relayed a blatant misinterpretation!)

We're not "all" 34s or under either. But I get fitted at Bravissimo and am a constant 30 at my current weight. I'm around a 14-16

rubylovesshopping Tue 09-Jul-13 21:30:30

Haven't read through this thread but will later and am sure what I will say has been said already but I was in a 34a/b but something wasn't right there was no support and I just looked saggy. The mn threads made me realise I am a 28e or 30dd and when you go to debenhams and ask for that size they look like you4

K8Middleton Tue 09-Jul-13 21:33:01

Oh god I had an accidental, socially inept attempt at a bra intervention yesterday. I am still blush and gnashing my teeth at the memory.

Please tell me where I can get a good, underwired nursing bra? I am stick of th mono-boob from rubbish unsupportive bras. This baby shows zero signs of weaning so I need a decent bra I can feed dd in and have the cups separated.

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Inertia Tue 09-Jul-13 21:36:08

I restrained myself from saying something to my SIL on her hen night- it was one of those 'how much do you know about the bride ' quizzes that the groom filled in. She said she was 34B, and I very nearly exclaimed that she couldn't possibly be - but thought it probably wasn't the right time, as a dozen impending in-laws and relative strangers would think I was some kind of boob-measuring obsessive. (I know because I wear a 32 back, and she has a much narrower ribcage than me).

Somehow there's never been the right time to say "look SIL, do you think you should maybe try a 28 D bra?".

k8middleton - either the anita (figleaves stock it), or ewa michalak

BookFairy Tue 09-Jul-13 21:44:46

I'm confused by this.... I'm 32 inches under and 39 inches leaning forward. I am genuinely have quite a small chest but according to that website I'm a G? Where have I gone wrong? confused

K8Middleton Tue 09-Jul-13 21:45:06

Thank you I'll look them up. I must also have a measure for my current sizing... or brave the local bra boutique where they are good but £££.

goodasitgets Tue 09-Jul-13 21:47:10

Bookfairy try a 32F as a start

MadBusLady Tue 09-Jul-13 21:48:33

BookFairy That makes you a 32F (remember there's a DD to count), but as per try a few cups either side. I'm 30FF, I'm not flat-chested by any stretch but neither am I huge and pendulous.

Alibabaandthe40nappies Tue 09-Jul-13 21:49:33

K8te - I second the Anita. I got mine from the Nursingbrashop.co.uk, they do really quick and cheap delivery and are brilliant with returns/refunds etc.
There is a LOT of stretch in the back, so take that into account when you order.

BookFairy Tue 09-Jul-13 21:52:28

shock But I genuinely don't even fill out a C cup.... I tried Bravissimo out of interest recently as my friend was getting fitted but I left empty handed as I was too small for any of their bras... Maybe I measured wrong confused

Not all C cups are equal bookfairy - what back size were you trying

WeAreSix Tue 09-Jul-13 21:59:36

Any idea what the Freya Pollyanna nursing bra sizes are like?

Bravissimo is a pain to get too. Maybe they'll give me commission for all the lovely tweets tonight smile

WeAreSix Tue 09-Jul-13 22:00:10

To not too blush

NeedlesCuties Tue 09-Jul-13 22:00:53

So is the consensus to go to an independent bra shop, as the chains - M&S, Mothercare etc are rubbish?

I've had all my most recent fittings in either Mothercare or M & S, and was hugely underwhelmed. I'm still breastfeeding my 11 month old, so might not be a good time to shell out for a £££ bra.

Any tips on places in Belfast or Co. Antrim to get measured and buy bras?

PuppyMummy Tue 09-Jul-13 22:03:26

I agree with alll the 'wrong size ideas'
I used to wear a 34a since I started wearing a bra, the cup always gaped (and looked horrid) and i just thought I had really small boobs.
last yr I lost a bit of weight and went to debenhams and got measured. They put me at a 30c!! I didnt believe her until I started trying on!!

it is honestly amazing and now my bras and boobs look good! I threw out every old size I had.

I did find them 'too' tight at first because for 20 odd years I had been wearing totally the wrong size, now they feel fine!

any non believers should try it!

TwllBach Tue 09-Jul-13 22:03:46

Oh I'm desperate to find a bra that fits. I'm big chested and finding a decent bra is something that I can only dream of.... I don't even have a ruler though, so I can't measure <frustrated>

BookFairy Tue 09-Jul-13 22:05:06

I have 36 B and 34 C depending on what time of the month it is. The middle fits well, the wire goes around the whole boob to the under arm, and the back fastening isn't too tigh/loose/high/low. I should measure again in the morning as I'm tired from the heat. Maybe I had the tape measure all wrong grin. Good food for thought thank you smile

Alibabaandthe40nappies Tue 09-Jul-13 22:06:32

Twll do you have string? Measure using that and then myonlineruler.com - it adjusts to take account of your screen resolution.

SorrelForbes Tue 09-Jul-13 22:07:46

TwllBach Have you got a bit of string or a shoelace and a piece of A4 paper. Convoluted but you could use measure with the string and then lie the string against the long side of the paper (which is 11.7") and then work it out from there

<not desperate to convert another MNer, no not at all>

BikeRunSki Tue 09-Jul-13 22:11:44

After lurking on bra threads and knowing I needed measuring and new bras ( I have recently lost 3 stone) I took time off work and went to John Lewis in Sheffield last week. Had lovely, discreet and informative service. Went in 36dd, came out 32f !

TwllBach Tue 09-Jul-13 22:14:36

Ooh I bet I can do that <searches for string snd paper>

KikkiK Tue 09-Jul-13 22:15:32

I'm glad I found this thread as my bra shopping expedition at the weekend did not go well! I got 36Bs but still have back fat. Just tried scooping and I was spilling out!
I have just measured and I'm 34 inches underneath and 39/40 leaning over, can anyone tell me what size to try? In the shop I couldn't even get a 34 to do up. confused

TwllBach Tue 09-Jul-13 22:22:12

32.15 under and 43.85 for the largest part... So I'm guessing I'm a 32, which makes sense, but its the straps and the cup that never seem to work.

KikkiK - were you by any chance trying the 34s in a B/C type cup size. I'm a 30HH, can't do up an old 30g though cos my boobs steal the back fabric. I'd suggest trying a 34DD and E

WeAreSix Tue 09-Jul-13 22:24:21

Surely that's about 32GG for Twll?

<practicing my intervention skills>

MadBusLady Tue 09-Jul-13 22:26:55

Try putting a 34 on backwards Kikki. That will show you whether the band itself fits without the cups confusing matters. Once you've established your back size you can experiment with different cups.

TwllBach Tue 09-Jul-13 22:27:25

See I'm wearing a 32 g wonder bra but the straps are useless and the cup sort of feels empty at the bottom and gapey at the top. I tried an e a week ago and they were squished out the top and the sides <attractive> but then I have back fat at the moment too. Is that breast tissue then and not just, you know, a fat back?

twll, is that wonderbra moulded by any chance? If so, it could be a style issue rather than size. Also, are you scooping?

KikkiK Tue 09-Jul-13 22:34:08

Yes, StatisticallyChallenged, was trying a 34C as that's what I bought the last time I went bra shopping three years ago. Didn't think I'd still be that size but was using it as a starting point. Will try the bigger cup sizes.
Thank you! thanks

KikkiK Tue 09-Jul-13 22:35:44

Thanks too, MadBusLady, good tip - I'll try that.

RollerCola Tue 09-Jul-13 22:36:12

Did you know that M&S are on twitter, and seem to answer their customers' tweets of complaint quite promptly?

Has anyone ever tweeted (or even contacted) them about their poor fitting service & lack of smaller banded bras? Maybe we should all start!

OOh yes RollerCola...They give a very standard "this is an isolated incident" response even when faced with stores at opposite ends of the country doing the same.

KikkiK Tue 09-Jul-13 22:39:31

Hang on, I've just realised that I would have been trying it on backwards as I always do up my bra at the front and swivel it round. So if a 34 didn't do up, does that mean I should try a 36 in a bigger cup size? I will try again with a 34, just wondering!

But tweet away! The more the merrier. I think the @bra_guru twitter account gets an eye roll from them now, and I suspect sorrelforbes isn't far behind!

Maybe just diff bra Kikkik - definitely try

TwllBach Tue 09-Jul-13 22:42:32

I can confirm that a) it is moulded - is that not good? And b) I am definitely not scooping.

They don't teach you the important stuff in school you know! I'm sure that the wrong size bra has contributed to my bad back.

OK, scoop first of all.

Scooping!

All those bumps, lumps, back fat, armpit fat - they get yanked in to the bra! However it only works if A: the back is small enough and b: the cup is big enough.

Basically, put bra on, then stand side on to a miror. Lean forward, put your right hand inside your left cup, reach round as far as you can and pull/scoop/yank all the flesh/soft tissue that is bumping under or over the back, around the straps or the armpit and haul its ass in to the cup. Repeat at other side. You might need to do it a couple of times (as doing one side knocks the other out slightly)

Try that first. But moulded bras can be problematic because they have a defined shape of their own, so they can't adapt to your breast shape

WeAreSix Tue 09-Jul-13 22:47:06

I got a very curt M&S tweet.

They got one back grin

SorrelForbes Tue 09-Jul-13 22:49:27

M&S annoy me so much that when I was in there yesterday I refused to walk though the lingerie floor on principal grin.

I can't bear to see all those teenage size 6s traipsing in to the fitting room behind a fitter carrying a selection of 36AAs

WeAreSix Tue 09-Jul-13 22:49:58

I just checked - 'There is no demand for this size'

No, because you don't make it and we've all buggered off to Bravissimo!

HerrenaHarridan Tue 09-Jul-13 22:50:11

Hello again, having been fantastically intervened with previously I now need you help again.

I think I know the truth but my brain refuses to add up that far

I just measured 38 under and 52 over shock

I lost weight recently and gone down a couple of back sizes but gained nearly 10cm!!!!!!!! No wonder my boobs have been escaping.

goodasitgets Tue 09-Jul-13 23:00:27

Try a 38JJ and a 38K

Start with a 38JJ, but don't be scared to try a 36 back too (and bigger cup to compensate)

SorrelForbes Tue 09-Jul-13 23:02:36

There is no demand for this size Well, of course there isn't. You measure everyone as a 36C/D. Arrrrggggghhhhhh

ShoeWhore Tue 09-Jul-13 23:08:08

I wouldn't buy bras from M&S even if they did stock my size. I tried one when I was pg and my ribcage expanded enough to put me in sizes they have "demand" for - the support was utterly useless compared with my trusty bravissimo/Freya/panache/etc bras.

SorrelForbes Tue 09-Jul-13 23:10:32

Hmmm, principle even blush. You see, M&S takes away my grammatical skills.

Crikeyblimey Tue 09-Jul-13 23:14:09

Oh my word! I e just measured 30 under and 36 over!

I've always warn 34 B and sometimes 36 B!

Am I right thinking I should be trying 30E???

goodasitgets Tue 09-Jul-13 23:16:57

Yep 30E smile

HazeltheMcWitch Tue 09-Jul-13 23:24:45

Ooh, do me, do me! (please)

I am 29 inches under, and 34-35 at fullest point.
I wear 34B at the mo. From M&S, obvs.

try 28F, 28E, 30E/F

sorry 30DD/E rather than 30e/f

LadyIsabellaWrotham Tue 09-Jul-13 23:27:12

I walked past Rigby & Peller in the Kings Road the other day, and their poor shop window mannequin was in a shockingly ill-fitting bikini top. It's a good thing I was in a hurry because otherwise I would have marched in and done a mannequin Intervention there and then, and probably been sectioned on the spot, but honestly, if you can't trust Rigby & Peller?

HazeltheMcWitch Tue 09-Jul-13 23:30:04

Was that to me, Statistically ? (try 28F, 28E, 30DD/E)

Cripes if so.
Also, what bra shapes are good for that size? I have no shoulders to speak of, so Balconette would be out.

Yup, for you hazel. You need to try a variety of shapes, as with quite a big size change you will find that things you previously ruled out - like balconettes - might actually be fine. Straps coming down is a classic sign the back of your bra is too big

HazeltheMcWitch Tue 09-Jul-13 23:44:38

Wow, thank you so much.
Yep, my straps do constantly fall down.
I will blush furiously as I cross the threshold of Bravissimo, as I still secretly think it's not for people like me (ie not blessed in the norkageal area), but cross it I will!

123rd Tue 09-Jul-13 23:54:22

Just want to say thanks...you helped me the other day. Was wearing 34dd but on your advice have bought a couple of 32g and they fit nicely, no boobs spilling out anywhere. And I think my boobs look smallersmile just have to gradually restock my bra drawer. And also find somewhere that stocks that size.

Lioninthesun Tue 09-Jul-13 23:59:19

I was one of the 36A brigade, now a 32D. I honestly went about calling close friends and had a buzz for weeks.

I do however, wish someone would tell the porn industry that the lady who's jugs are lying on the bed next to her while she is on her back, that she is almost definitely not merely a DD... wink

TwllBach Wed 10-Jul-13 06:41:18

Good grief I've just done the scooping thing and I definitely need a bigger bra! <frantically pushes boob fat back to back>

MumbleBag Wed 10-Jul-13 08:14:53

Can someone help me work out my measurements please?

I measure 29cms under bust and 33.5 at fullest point bending over. Not sure whether to go for 30 or 28 C or D.

Also, I've seen a bikini I'd like to order and I can get it in an 8 or 10 B or C cup. Can't work put which I should be and don't really want to order all 4 and return 3 as the money would still be out of my account for a while.

Thanks!

SorrelForbes Wed 10-Jul-13 08:26:51

MumbleBag Try a 28E, 28DD, 30DD, 30D. I think a C will be too small tbh.

That's a tricky one with the bikini. I always order proper bra sized bikinis to avoid that issue. I doubt whether any of those will be that true to bra size iykwim? What size top would you usually buy, 8 or 10?

MumbleBag Wed 10-Jul-13 09:06:33

Thanks Sorrel! Sorry if it's already been mentioned on other bra threads, but do you know the best places to order those sizes online as I usually wear a 32C as I struggle to find other sizes.

It depends what shop I go in as to whether I'm an 8 or 10. Usually more often an 8 I guess. Maybe I will just have to order them all and make sure I don't hang around with the returns otherwise it would be annoying if I ordered one size then needed another and it was out of stock.

SorrelForbes Wed 10-Jul-13 09:09:26

I's probably order the 8C then.

Brastop, Figleaves, Bravissimo, My Curves & Me all do good on-line ordering.

There is another 15% off sale stuff at BraStop with the code WAVE.

Justonemorecardi Wed 10-Jul-13 09:14:52

Hi just skimmed this thread and I'd like a go! Where are the 'instructions', I'm 29" around ribcage, 36.5" when leaning forward. I've been wearing a 32dd. Thanks!

LittleFriendSusan Wed 10-Jul-13 09:17:25

Ok bra gurus, can someone point me in the right direction? Just measured as 33-40 - what size would that make me? I am currently wearing a 34d which is clearly the wrong size. The straps fall down & I have that v attractive quad-boob effect at times and even worse if I scoop. I also have an unsightly roll of flab? just under my boobs / round rib cage which bulges under the band. I'm well fit, me wink.

Second question, where the hell do I look? No big department stores locally, no m&s, no bravissimo. One v expensive independent lingerie shop (which fitted me as a 34c, a few years back admittedly, but I was a lot slimmer then?!). Last thing, I have odd shaped boobs, not 'full' as such. Certain styles seem to gape round the top of the cup whilst fitting perfectly everywhere else.

So, is there any hope for me? I want to be able to wear fitted tops & dresses again without bulging out everywhere!

justonemorecardi try a 28FF/G and a 30F/FF to start

littlefriendsusan given how you describe your 34s I'd say you will be someone who needs to round down the back size. Try a 32F/FF to start with. You might be best ordering online - lots of places do free returns. You might find that moulded t shirt bras(like the Freya deco) won't work and will gape so you might be better with either non-moulded, or something like the Cleo Juna which is a balconette so doesn't have as much space to not fill at the top

SorrelForbes Wed 10-Jul-13 09:26:01

Justonemorecardi Lots of good info/instructions/guidance here

Try a 28G, 28FF, 30FF, 30F. (I suspect the 28s might be a better fit in most brands).

LittleFriendSusan Try a 32FF, 32F, 34F, 34E (I suspect the 32s might be a better fit in most brands). If the straps are falling down on the 34s then it's probably because the back is too big. I'd start with trying some 32 bands but in much bigger cups. That'll get rid of the quadraboob thing!

On-line shopping is your friend. Try Brastop (15% off sale stock at the moment with code WAVE), Figleaves, Bravissimo and My Curves & Me for some great bargains. You need to experiment with different styles and brands but I would suggest trying a half cup or a balconette to avoid the gaping at the top of the cup (you can alter the lace on some styles if it wrinkles a little but the cup fits elsewhere). There is definitely hope!

SorrelForbes Wed 10-Jul-13 09:26:18

Epic x post. Mornin' Stats grin

TheDemonShedMaster Wed 10-Jul-13 09:26:36

Help! I definitely need a bra intervention, if anyone is willing to advise me?

The last time I was measured, post-pregnancy, M&S put me in a 38C. Following the MN advice, I have measured myself 36 round the back and 43 round the fullest part. HOWEVER, I am, what can only be described as "a bit squishy", so if I pull the tape measure a bit tighter, I measure 34 around the back. Which is the correct measurement?

Also, since having DS, my lovely norks have lost all their fullness at the top, so my boobs sort of slope away now (harrumph). What sort of styles should I be trying in order to pull them up and away from my belly button? I have been wearing a basic t-shirt bra, but the cups just gape at the top.

Am sad. Miss my old boobs.

missbopeep Wed 10-Jul-13 09:30:47

I just want to say a big thanks thanks to the Mn experts.
On your advice I measured my elderly mum and told her she was not a 34 -36D but a 32 F or G. I ordered some Bravissimo bras for her online which she tried and said were too tight across back.
Anyhoo- she managed to get to Bravissimo herself, and came away with a - you've guessed it- 32F! They agreed that she was no way a 34 or 36 back.

missbopeep Wed 10-Jul-13 09:32:15

Demon- I think you should try a 34- they say pull the tape tight. Also, try the bras on back to front so you can see if the band fits without using the cups.

missbopeep Wed 10-Jul-13 09:33:03

Oh and maybe a balconette would suit to lift them higher and higher....

Classic x post indeed SF - the psychic bra elastic is alive and well I see!!

thedemonshedmaster try both, but you might find the 34 better. The advice above re t shirt bras probably applies to you too - they suck if you have lost fullness as they have no ability to adapt to your own shape so just gape instead.

missbopeep your mum is not the first person I have heard of doing just that. I think if you haven't ever worn a proper bra it's hard to believe that the correct tightness (note that's firm not uncomfortable to any misquoters!) is how it should be. A trip to Bravissimo with a pro explaining it in the flesh generally provides reassurance!

Justonemorecardi Wed 10-Jul-13 09:37:15

Oh thank you - off for a trying session. Just one more question - won't a tight band give me a flabby appearance above straps/armhole area?

SorrelForbes Wed 10-Jul-13 09:39:37

Justonemorecardi It shouldn't do, as long as you have a big enough cup!

Branleuse Wed 10-Jul-13 09:40:20

I remember a young woman on a different site I used to go on. she was obsessed with saving up to get those macrolane injections in her breasts, then she wanted a boob job. She kept starting threads about boobs. she had visited surgeons etc.
she then got properly measured and found out she wasnt an A cup, she was actually a 28C/D and she then cancelled everything and decided she was ok with them after all.
Amazing and very strange

Not if you scoop justonemorecardi - see my post from last night

TheDemonShedMaster Wed 10-Jul-13 09:58:04

missbopeep - thanks. If I am following the advice correctly, should I be trying a 34G?

LittleFriendSusan Wed 10-Jul-13 09:58:47

SF / SC - thanks for the advice smile. Will have a little browse online later and see how I get on! I meant to say earlier, I do have one 32D bra which is a better fit cup-wise, but the band is too tight and leaves horrid red marks. But could that be because I need a bigger cup size?

Canalside Wed 10-Jul-13 10:00:03

This all makes so much sense now! I used to wear a 36c before DD as I'd been in a 34d but thought back was too tight. No wonder really as the cups were way too small! Am now (breastfeeding) in a 32gg/30h and there's no way my back is smaller than pre-pregnancy, if anything I'm fatter.

They may be somewhat unattractive nursing bras but so much better! Am almost excited about what I can get and what size I'll be when I stop, even if they will be deflated balloons.

Am desperate to get my mum fitted properly now. She's gone non-wired as her bras were uncomfortable at a 34c. There's just no way. She's a 30ff at least I reckon. May have to march her into bravissimo and not give her a choice!

SorrelForbes Wed 10-Jul-13 10:08:26

LittleFriendSusan Very likely but it could also be a brand thing. Some M&S bras and Debenhams Gorgeous range can come up very small in the back.

DisneyDiva87 Wed 10-Jul-13 10:24:54

My local M&S has started doing a small range of bras with back size 30 up to G cups and all the ones in between. I was over joyed as I don't get paid a lot and struggled to part with the money for Bravissimo, now I can buy bras for £12 grin

I squeeze into a 30DD though (I'm really 30F) because M&S do a larger size for 30DD and I find it hard to resist the pretty ones. I do have some proper fitting bra's though. I think people imagine the likes of Jordan if you are over a D cup.

I used to think that if the back strap rose up my back it meant the size was too small so when I was 32 I went up to 34 and still the back rose I knew I wasn't 36 and then a pal told me that it meant I was wearing too large a back size so I dropped to 30 and voila! Perfect! I'm pretty sure I read it in a bra fitting guide which is quite worrying, it's no wonder so many women are wearing the wrong size bra's if the guides are lying to us.

RainbowBob Wed 10-Jul-13 10:29:19

I am totally new to this bra measurement technique - I just stumbled upon this post last night whilst being kept awake by my kids - and I feel as if I have been living in some kind of dark, sound-proofed well-hidden hole for years. What an eye opener. I got the tape measure out this morning, measured myself and it turns out the 34c I've been wearing for practically my entire life (apart for pregnancy) should actually be a 30E....!!! Well, I think it is anyway - I measure 29 underneath and 36.5 above. I am sure this has been said before - but it's a revelation.

Just need to find some time to go bra shopping now, which might be tricky with three young and very changing-room-averse kids.

SorrelForbes Wed 10-Jul-13 10:41:55

RainbowBob Mind blowing isn't it?! Try 28G, 28FF, 30FF, and 30F for starters.

Bear in mind that M&S don't do a FF, they jump straight to G (yet another thing they do that annoys me!)

DisneyDiva87 Wed 10-Jul-13 10:44:52

I want to get my tape measure out and double check my size. Although I am going on the size that I was measured for at Bravissimo so I'm hoping it's correct.

Might do it anyway when I get home, just to see

SoTiredAgain Wed 10-Jul-13 10:47:56

sorrel After reading this thread, I've just measured myself. Like the pp, I'm 29" underneath but I am 37" over. Currently wear 34C which I know is completely the wrong size for me. Which sizes should I try? Thanks.

missbopeep Wed 10-Jul-13 10:48:20

Don't know if the experts will agree with i find all brands are different which makes buying online tricky.

I have tried on some Elle McPherson and find the backs tiny. I'd need a 34 in some styles, whereas in J Lewis own brand a 32 is ample and even a 30 is possible.

DisneyDiva87 Wed 10-Jul-13 10:51:32

A pal of mine was saying last night that some shops add 3 or 4 on to the number of inches, so if you measure 29 you would buy a 32 bra and if you measure 30 you would buy 34. Maybe John Lewis don't add the extra on? I don't know why anyone would anyway, seems stupid to me.

I'm different sizes depending on the type of cup.

Elle mc bras run particularly small. After a bit of practice I can generally guess my back size accurately but will often order a couple of cup sizes to try

RainbowBob Wed 10-Jul-13 11:04:39

SorrelForbes - thank you! I will try those sizes and see how I go. Although I will almost certainly NOT be going to M&S after reading this thread.

I have just had a crazy flashback to getting a fitting in John Lewis before my wedding (many moons ago) and the bra fitter told me I was a 32DD. Clearly she was wrong, but much closer to the mark than M&S have ever been.

I now feel uncomfortable and indecent wearing this terrible ill-fitting bra. Going shopping has never seemed so urgent...!

TheSmallPrint Wed 10-Jul-13 11:16:56

Hello, I always read these threads but never join in so today I'm being brave.

I have always thought of myself as flat chested and used to wear a 36A cup (as most of my boobage is round the sides rather than sticking out the front) until I went into R&P some 13 years ago who put me in a 34 C and it was like a miracle.

Since then I have put on about a stone and a half and had two bf babies so even less volume in my boobs these days. Anyway, I am currently wearing a fairly cheap 36C which seems OK but having just measured myself as 34" round ribs and 39" around boobs that can't be right? Can you tell me, when measuring around the boobs, do you measure tight again or looser?

The boob measurement is looser. Based on those measurements try a 34DD.

TheSmallPrint Wed 10-Jul-13 11:24:38

Thanks StatisticallyChallenged, next question would be the best place to try? Because I've always felt bras don't do anything for me I've been unwilling to spend a reasonable amount and end up shopping in the cheap sections. blush

Try a good department store - somewhere like debenhams or john lewis who will stock a wide variety of brands and shapes. M&S are pretty grim and generally only have about 2 cuts in a bunch of different fabrics.

SorrelForbes Wed 10-Jul-13 11:39:46

Do you know, I love R&P but sometimes I don't think they get the band fitting quite snugly enough.

DisneyDiva87. Nearly all high street shops add 4/5" to your under bust measurement. It's infuriating. Some fitters at Debenhams, JL and HoF have seen the light and now fit bras properly. Top Shop, M&S, New Look etc persist in adding inches. This is why they never stock anything below a 32" band!

TheSmallPrint Wed 10-Jul-13 11:43:27

Thank you, I never buy in M&S because absolutely nothing fits in there. I have a HoF nearby so will try there - but I'm still sceptical until I find one that fits at that size ... grin

AWitchOfDirtyHabits Wed 10-Jul-13 11:59:18

Ok I've measured with an iPad charger cable and tape measure and I am 36 inches underneath and 48 inches round my norks. What does that make me? Just placed an order for brastop so want to change it if I'm wearing the wrong size! currently in a 40H

SorrelForbes Wed 10-Jul-13 12:03:52

AWitch. Try a HH. How is the cup on your 40Hs if you scoop?

sparkle12mar08 Wed 10-Jul-13 12:05:15

Try 36HH AWitch, and sizes around that, so 34J, 36HH, and possibly 34JJ and 36J. You may find the 34's fit better, if so you'll need the larger cup size.

ShoeWhore Wed 10-Jul-13 12:08:54

To the PP who said she can't wear balconette styles as the straps fall off - I am sure this will be resolved with a better fitting bra - I have tiny shoulders, all my bras are balconette style and my straps aren't going anywhere !

AWitchOfDirtyHabits Wed 10-Jul-13 12:09:23

The cups not bad but I'm wearing a non wired nursing bra so it's a bit hard to tell!

AWitchOfDirtyHabits Wed 10-Jul-13 12:27:32

Would I be ok in a 38H for now? Brastop have said its the equivalent to a 36HH as they don't have the bra I want in that size.

I've been struggling with uncomfy bras since I got pregnant (DD now 2.5) I find that they all make my ribs really ache after wearing them for more than a couple of hours even those JML pull on types hmm

The one that is least uncomfy is a 40D non wired one from M&S

I've just done the bending over measurement and got 36 under and 47 1/2 over! Help please anyone

I wouldn't go for the 38, it''s unlikely to give you the support you need. It's the closest size, but when your boobs are relatively big and heavy you need the back to be well fitting.

youremyorange - try a 36H/HH

shock I've just ordered a 36H from amazon and will report back when it arrives

MrsRadicchio Wed 10-Jul-13 15:54:01

Hi, couldn't find the link to figure out my size - am 33 under boob and 41 over. Tia (great thread btw, missed the first one)

SorrelForbes Wed 10-Jul-13 16:01:20

MrsRadicchio Try a 32G, 32FF, 34FF, 34F. The 32s will probably be better and give more support. Make sure you try a new bra on back to front first so that the cup size doesn't skew the fit.

Bra Guru Blog

topknob Wed 10-Jul-13 16:05:28

I did this smile thought I was a 32 b am a 30 d grin

MrsRadicchio Wed 10-Jul-13 16:05:40

Thanks, all my bras are 36/38 c/d!! Time for an overhaul I think!

notso Wed 10-Jul-13 16:31:01

Please would someone help me? Have never had a good fitting bra.
I am measuring 39 under and 50 over and currently wearing 40DD fitted by M&S.

SorrelForbes Wed 10-Jul-13 16:44:15

MrsRadicchio Through these threads we are creating a butter bra mountain of unwanted 36Cs!

SorrelForbes Wed 10-Jul-13 16:46:55

notso Try a 38HH, 38H. Usually if you're between sizes I'd suggest trying the bigger back too (in your case a 40H, 40GG) but sometimes, those of us who are a bit larger need to size down to get the proper level of support. Therefore, also try a 36J/JJ. Make sure you try a new bra on back to front first so that the cup size doesn't skew the fit.

notso Wed 10-Jul-13 17:05:59

Wow, thanks Sorrel am going bra shopping on Saturday then.
Hopefully this will be an end to the bra-strap-hanging-out-of-my-t-shirt-sleeve annoyance!

Turnipinatutu Wed 10-Jul-13 18:10:48

I've just measured using the bra guru advice and I'm 34 under and 41 round the bust. I'm small chested and currently wearing a 36A and always struggle to find cups small enough sad
I can't see how I should be in a 34F! Have I got this wrong?

Turnipinatutu - you have it right. try putting your current bra on and scooping (see my post upthread that explains how)

fieldfare Wed 10-Jul-13 18:28:29

I'm currently wearing a 36E which is quite comfortable. Have just measured and I'm a 36" under boob but 46" around fullest part when leaning forward slightly. That would make me an FF?!

a GG! Have you tried scooping too? That's normally the cause of a big discrepancy - breast tissue that isn't in the cup

Turnipinatutu Wed 10-Jul-13 18:44:26

shock well scouping fills the cups on current A cup, but an F? confused how could it not be massive?

SorrelForbes Wed 10-Jul-13 18:47:05

An A cup on a 36 back is not same in volume as an A cup on a smaller band. How tightly did you hold the tape when taking the under bust measurement?

BookFairy Wed 10-Jul-13 18:49:01

Turn I'm the same. My two boobs together struggle to fill out one F cup so I'm not sure how this could be right for me confused

Turnipinatutu Wed 10-Jul-13 18:52:15

It was fairly tight without being too tight.
From a 36A to 34F is such a big increase in cup size isn't it?
I usually order bras online, but think in going to have to go to an actual shop.

SoTiredAgain Wed 10-Jul-13 19:02:25

Oops! I think my earlier post was missed blush. Under measurement is 29", over is 37". Could you tell me what I should be wearing (currently 34C)? Please?

Dorange Wed 10-Jul-13 19:03:22

statistically changed please help me.

I never have a bra fitted and always bought at primark cheap shops, but now I decided it is time.

Just measured myself and it is 30" under and 34" over (does it sound right? I hope I didn't do it wrong)

I am going bra shopping on Sunday, where should I go, what brands to look for? I don't want/like anything sexy or faff, just a plain ordinary thing.

How much roughly should I be expected to pay?

The cup measurement is less accurate, always will be. In general though,it is easier to spot a too big cup. So go in to a shop, pick up the same bra in say a 34d,dd,e and F, and start with the F. Pop it on and scoop vigorously. It could be that you are someone who needs smaller than they measure but it could also be that your boobs are quite wide based so there is tissue not currently in the bra that would be in a bigger cup size.

SorrelForbes Wed 10-Jul-13 19:07:42

You need to read this article as it does a really good job at explaining how cup sizing works.

OneHolyCow Wed 10-Jul-13 19:08:45

Okay, so I'm in shock.. similar to Turnipinatutu (what's in a name? grin )
32 under and 40 max. I wear badly fitting 36A.
No way an F cup.. really??

Oneholycow - actually try a 32FF! I know, you all think we are fifty shades of crazy!

SorrelForbes Wed 10-Jul-13 19:11:36

SoTiredAgain Try a 28G, 28FF, 30FF, 30F.

OneHolyCow Wed 10-Jul-13 19:13:41

Oh my god!
Wow.
Fifty shades of something alright! shock

'll try though, thanks!

INeedSomeHelp Wed 10-Jul-13 19:14:14

I am so excited about this thread. I have been skint for ages so have been wearing bras that I know don't fit because I couldn't afford to replace.
Now I am losing weight through diet and exercise and will have some money due to a redundancy payout.
And the first thing I'm going to do is treat myself to some new underwear. And I know I should be sensible and go for white, black and nude. But I will no doubt go for something bright and impractical!
But there's just a great feeling about wearing lovely matching bra and knickers under a boring work outfit.
Can't wait to measure myself and find out what I should be wearing.

Turnipinatutu Wed 10-Jul-13 19:30:54

Right I'm off bra shopping tomorrow lunchtime and will report back......

KatyMac Wed 10-Jul-13 19:31:40

My best bra ever Freya Rio is nearly out of stock everywhere

What else can I wear?

Christobel51 Wed 10-Jul-13 20:09:29

I've just measured 42 inches and 49 inches.... What does that make me? My bras have always been uncomfortable and I just figured it was my body shape to blame!

sparkle12mar08 Wed 10-Jul-13 20:22:48

Try 42F and possibly 40FF/G too. Some of us with larger backs and/or more padding tend to find a smaller back provides the support we need for a larger cup as well.

googietheegg Wed 10-Jul-13 20:23:13

Ok, i have my measurements and I need the MN Norkage Algorithm to work its magic.

33 around rib cage, 41 around boobs etc dangling. Currently wear 34f Freya bras and 36dd m&s...

sparkle12mar08 Wed 10-Jul-13 20:26:07

Try 32G & FF and 34FF and F, given that you're in between band sizes the lower one is likely to be a better fit given modern stretch fabrics, so you'll need to try the bigger of the cup sizes too.

sparkle12mar08 Wed 10-Jul-13 20:26:32

<waves to Sorrel and Statistically!>

Itsmymove Wed 10-Jul-13 20:26:38

I got measured in mothercare for nursing bras and was given a 38b, Which even sounded wrong at the time but kind of fits ok. I just measured and I'm 32 under and 39 round boobs, what cup size should I buy? Exciting, bra shopping tomorrow I think!

BookFairy Wed 10-Jul-13 20:29:11

I think my problem is that my boobs are quite flat on the top but the tissue spreads out to my underarms, IYSWIM statistically? Even with scooping an F cup is empty at the top. Difficult to explain! Maybe I'm the exception to the rule confused

sparkle12mar08 Wed 10-Jul-13 20:30:01

Holy fuck - a 38 band for someone measuring 32?! That's insane! Try 32F and FF to start with.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH

Apologies for the daily mail link but, seriously, this shit is shy women don't believe or understand bra sizes. 32DD my arse

is why* bad bra rage affects my spelling clearly

Bookfairy that is more of a style issue. Some brands have wider wires than others, and some shapes are great for boobs which are emptier on top. You will probably find t shirt bras/moulded cups a bit of a nightmare but might get on much better with balconettes. Try a Cleo Juna, Curvy Kate tease me and others of those shape. Half cups may be good too

showtunesgirl Wed 10-Jul-13 20:33:27

Also, if she's a 32DD, I'll eat my 32G bras!

BookFairy Wed 10-Jul-13 20:35:14

Thank you statistically smile

sparkle12mar08 Wed 10-Jul-13 20:38:20

I'd put my money on something in the 28GG/H 30GG/H range...

AuntPepita Wed 10-Jul-13 20:39:34

Try a 32f for starters.

i am appalled at how badly some people have been fitted. 38b for a 32f, 40dd for a 36j, just, just shock and always m&s, they should be ashamed.

AuntPepita Wed 10-Jul-13 20:42:23

I'm a 28g, and she looks smaller in the ribs and bigger in the bosoms than me.

showtunesgirl Wed 10-Jul-13 20:47:07

I saw her at The Vitality Show and definitely is NOT the same frame size as me and I am a 32.

I can also confirm that she's much, much more orange than me. grin

I'd say if her boobs were natural she would probably be a 26 - because she has implants she might need a 28 (positioning is more upfront with implants) but dd....not a sodding chance. Maybe 28HH?

Lioninthesun Wed 10-Jul-13 20:51:18

Statistically That is what I mean about porn thinking D is gigantic. Mind you, either she is lying about what size she asked her surgeon for, or he is also watching too much porn or using the M&S mannequins for their bra training courses as a guide?
Was interested to see the media ran a story on how not all porn stars were a D cup as assumed and wondered whether they had actually all been fitted with the correct bras!

IsThatTrue Wed 10-Jul-13 20:56:32

I have just put in an order for several bras (34/36 gg/g) from brastop thanks to this thread. I've also staged a bra intervention with a friend who was earlier moaning about badly fitting bras.

You ladies are Herod and I will be back with my success story soon smile

IsThatTrue Wed 10-Jul-13 20:57:03

Herod should be heros! blush dyac!

Lion the surgeons issue is interesting - my friend had a reduction. She was properly fitted in a 30H, first surgeon she saw for consultation/approval (nhs) said her bra fitted well, could maybe have been a bit looser but with big boobs he could understand that looser would not have given support. surgeon who actually operated told her he'd achieve a C or D and reckoned he had done that. She was (as soon as swelling went down) a 30F/FF.

3ofeach Wed 10-Jul-13 21:07:12

Can you size me please
31 under and 35/36 across
Would love to find out what I should be warring especially as I'm shopping tomorrow grin

try 30dd/e and 32d/dd

SorrelForbes Wed 10-Jul-13 22:31:53

<waves back to sparkle12mar08>

Stats - that DM link? WTF?

I know. Amusingly I showed it to DH, and he immediately says "no, just no way on earth is she either a 32 or a DD, is she mad?"

I have trained him well <nods wisely>

SorrelForbes Wed 10-Jul-13 22:37:42

Indeed you have Stats. [proud emoticon]

It's quite funny really - we were walking along the other day and I was having a bit of a fat day (par for the course!) and a girl with a gorgeous figure walked the other way. I made a comment to DH about "ugh, I'd kill for her figure" or some such and he responded with "yeah but did you see how bad her bra was, they were bouncing and she had quadboob"

<not sure whether to be amused or disturbed>

ThatVikRinA22 Wed 10-Jul-13 22:55:24

i am currently trying to "lose" my DDs bras that are blatently the wrong size....

im a size 14 and a 34C.
she is a size 6, ok, she is taller than me.....but i found her wearing a size 34B this week! wtf!!!!

she is clearly at most a 32. (and thats pushing it)
probably a B or C depending on fit. probably a 30. 32 maybe (she has quite a broad back)

but hey. im only her mother - what do mums know eh?? she is 16.....

I'd doubt she's even a 30 tbh vicar. Most people have an underbust measurement which is within around 3" of their waist. At size 6 she must have a pretty wee waist.

Did she fill the 34B (as far as you could tell)

ThatVikRinA22 Wed 10-Jul-13 23:05:08

the cup yes....but the back is too big.

she is quite broad shouldered - she is 5ft 7 tall so a 32 seems to stay put pretty well....
a 34 she certainly aint.
i think she is a B cup.
its the back measurement she gets wrong....

i learnt the hard way. i used to think i was a 34A....(scoffs!!)

i was in fact at that time a 32B. we used to have a little indie underwear shop where the fitter - Bernie (a woman of consierable experience!) used to simply clasp your boobs to determine your size....have to say she was NEVER wrong!

If she is filling the 34B, then she won't be a B cup in a smaller back size - not all b cups are the same.

If the fills a 34B that suggests an overbust of somewhere around 36. I'd hazard a guess she's more likely to be something in the region of a 28F. A size 6 waist is apparently 23.5" according to a size chart I just glanced at. It would be really unlikely for her to be a 32.

Maybe get her to look here to see what "real" bra sizes look like?

ThatVikRinA22 Wed 10-Jul-13 23:22:19

oh lordy....
how can i get her properly checked? Bernie no longer works.....or id take her for the "grasp" test!

If you have a tape measure, get her to whip her bra of an first of all, measure firmly underneath her bust in inches. Then, bend forward so that her back is flat and boobs dangling, and measure round the fullest part. Not glam but fairly effective. The underbust measurement is basically her backsize - and I'll be utterly shocked if it is more than a 30. picture here

If she would rather get fitted then Bravissimo or John Lewis. Not, under any circs whatsoever, M&S, La Senza, Ann Summers, BHS....and a whole load of other offenders.

Btw...are you sure of your size smile

ouryve Wed 10-Jul-13 23:31:11

Oneholycow - you're actually the same measurements as I am now and I've just bought a 32FF and a 32G. Even before now, the worst I've been at this weight was 34DD - and even then I wondered why I had back fat!

ouryve Wed 10-Jul-13 23:36:35

She's bigger than my 32FF - she looks petite Not seen her on TV) - I bet she's a 28H at least and I bet, if she was my age with 2 kids behind her, those bras would give her serious armpit lard.

schooldidi Thu 11-Jul-13 00:17:42

I'm taking dd1 (13) to get fitted for new bras at the weekend. It suddenly dawned on me while reading this thread that she hasn't been fitted for about a year and she has surely developed somewhat since then, being at that age and all.

She's going to hate it, but she'd rather have our very nice and very well trained fitters do it than have me look even vaguely in the direction of her boobs. She's going to be big too, last year she was a 32 DD (at 12!!!), and I don't think she's got any bigger round the ribs but she's definitely busting out of the cup. No pretty, dainty teen bras for her then, sports bras for school I think and hopefully we can get something prettier for wearing under summer dresses etc.

GiraffesAndButterflies Thu 11-Jul-13 00:43:23

Ok I'm confused.

If some shops add four/five inches on to your back measurement, but then also add it on the bra label, doesn't that work out on overall? What am I missing?

It's too late tonight but I promise to measure myself in the morning... My mum's bras look like an X at the back which I know is wrong, so I'm determined to sort myself out before sorting her! grin

SorrelForbes Thu 11-Jul-13 06:03:36

Giraffes. No, they only add it to your measurement not to the bra itself. I'm a 30GG and my bras measure around 25-27" un-stretched and around 28-31" stretched.

SorrelForbes Thu 11-Jul-13 06:05:23

Schooldidi. It might be worth getting her to measure herself as per the instructions above. If she's below a size 12 dress size I'd be surprised if she's a DD.

We have a lovely lingerie shop nearby but the lady always fits people one band size too big!

sleepywombat Thu 11-Jul-13 06:26:39

So I have been wearing a 34A most of my life (House of Fraser once measured me as 36 AA but I chose to ignore that), moving to 34DD when pg/breastfeeding. I am size 8-10 on top.

I just measured myself as Statistically Challenged suggested. I am 30 inches underbust. Do I now need to buy some expensive bras in another size?!

Because I am fairly flat chested, I've always found my cheapo bras really comfortable (& used to not even bother with bras a lot of the time).

I always read about people being 30F or whatever, and thinking wow,they must have tiny backs/rib cages!

Twit Thu 11-Jul-13 06:58:37

I go to a local lady in town who seems to get it right, which is lucky as I'm biiig.I checked her against the MN way just to make sure wink and I think I got it right in 32/44 is 32J shock
I now have to find another wad of £ to fund my extreme norkage support system sad as I need new bras really anyway as it's been 2years a while. The last ones i got are nursing bras (still nursing) which I loathe so I went back to my relatively new under wired ones (which are 34k ish ) as I was pregnant when fitted.

SorrelForbes Thu 11-Jul-13 07:16:13

Sorry Schooldidi. That should have read "if she's a 32"

Sleepyfergus Thu 11-Jul-13 07:37:34

Question! How tight should the measure tape be for measuring round the widest part of the boob. I did a tentative measure this am and I think I've gone from a 38A to a 30/32E!!

Also, with my new measurement, have people found they are able to walk into the likes of M&S and fit straight into their new size? Are their bras rubbish? Or is it just they are unable to measure properly???

schooldidi Thu 11-Jul-13 07:50:08

She's a 10 but she mostly wears t shirts and other stretchy or baggy clothes so I think if she wanted something more fitted she'd be a 12 on top. She'd never admit it though because all her friends are about size 6 so she thinks even a 10 is huge. Never mind the fact that she's 5'8" and hit puberty early so she's perfectly in proportion.

LadyIsabellaWrotham Thu 11-Jul-13 07:53:30

I found that M&S bras are not necessarily bad as long as you fit yourself, trying loads of styles on, and you don't let the fitting ladies near you with their Calculator of Doom. And if you go into a larger branch they do do a reasonable range of 30s - according to their website they do 70 different styles up to a 30DD and another 15 up to a 30G (they only go up to 28C though).

I can't speak for the people with genuinely large norks though.

Good morning, I see you've been busy grin

For the ladies that have said that they are more fleshy at the side than the front, and struggle to fill a smaller cup but measure bigger.

The cup needs to extend as far as your breast tissue does. This can vary massively, and cannot be fixed by scooping, unlike migrated tissue.

The narrowest styles are more projected forward (e.g. Cleo by Panache etc). You need the opposite.

My best findings so far for you are the Fantasie Salsa, the Fantasie Belle full cup, and the new Tutti Rouge range which was launched at Bravissimo recently. The Belle comes up a cup bigger than the Salsa.

You need to avoid any wired style that has a side sling as that will dig into the breast in an attempt to push it forward.

For a soft cup option, the Royce Charlotte is pretty good, if a little functional, and their Sadie is a bit softer and prettier.

I'd be lying if I said these were vavavoom bras, but comfort has to have some say and the Salsa is quite delicate, all things considered.

I measure as 30GG but find 32FF in Fantasie or G in other brands a better fit, as I have ribs that bras annoy.

I find Debenhams comfort cup tshirt bra in a 32G a little tight and the straps fall off of my shoulders.

I've been bra fitting for over 5 years, and even before then, every now and then I'd try to find a bra that fitted me in M&S. It's been over 30 years since I first needed a bra. They fitted me once as a 36DD. I was less than 9 stone at the time hmm

Given that they don't do a FF, the 32GG tshirt bra and another one that I spotted in their outlet store recently seemed like a good test.
They were vice like, to the point where I struggled to close it at all, even back to front to exclude the cups.

Another boo for M&S.

SorrelForbes Thu 11-Jul-13 08:17:32

Thanks married that's really useful info. I've got a couple of friends who have very wide set boobs and are wearing 38A type affairs! What about someone who prefers something with a bit of padding?

Jojobump1986 Thu 11-Jul-13 08:18:18

I'm currently wearing a 34D with an extender because I didn't want to splash out on anything bigger during the late pregnancy/postnatal period. I've been aware for a while that it wasn't right. Having just measured myself the MN way I'm 30" under & 36/37" over, depending on how tight I pull the tape. Does this put me at 30E/F?! I mostly wear size 8 tops but I can never find button-up tops that fit because they either won't do up or they hang off my shoulders if I go for a larger size.

I was looking at bras on the weekend. I'm quite glad I got bored & left without buying anything if I'd have bought the wrong size! I shall insist on DH having the kids tomorrow evening while I go on a super exciting bra-finding expedition!

SorrelForbes Thu 11-Jul-13 08:21:26

A friend who measures 27" under bust struggled to do up one of their 28 plunge bras back to front. It was at least 3" from doing up!

So, not only is their fitting awful, their sizing is bonkers too!
Fantastic.

jojo that would be the start point but how is the cup on your 34d fitting? If it feels tight I think you might be someone who needs a bigger cup than they measure

and awesome info from married as always

NoGoatsToe Thu 11-Jul-13 10:12:49

NeedlesCuties - you were asking about bra fitting in Belfast - try Orchid Lingerie on the Lisburn Road. The stuff is v expensive (but I think worth every penny) but they always have a sales rack and if you aren't looking for a matching set of knickers.

DisneyDiva87 Thu 11-Jul-13 10:21:10

I never got round to measuring myself last night, must remember to do it tonight.

VerlaineChasedRimbauds Thu 11-Jul-13 10:23:38

I am rather large - umm - all over really. I did the measuring thing and seem to have 36 back and 49 shock boobs. Can anyone suggest what size I should try. It clearly isn't the 38 DD I currently sort of squeeze into...

what is the measuring thing and how do i do it?

bohoec Thu 11-Jul-13 10:39:14

I have never heard of this before! I've just measured myself following the bra guru advice and apparently I'm a 30DD. I thought I was a 34A... Can that possibly be right?! It sounds crazy!

Off in to town today, so I'm going to try some bras on and see...

sparkle12mar08 Thu 11-Jul-13 10:41:24

Verlaine- try 36J and sizes surrounding. So 36HH/J and possibly JJ, and 34J/JJ and possibly K. Brastop and Bravissimo are good online for pretty but supportive sizes.

goodasitgets Thu 11-Jul-13 10:41:38

Verlaine try a 36J and a 36JJ

I can see why many people refuse to go along with it.
My measurements, following the links on this thread take me from a 32A to a 28DD. Just no! I am a size 6-8 on top and not fleshy there. My boobs are really minimal and it doesn't make sense.

My 32 band really cuts into me and i hate it.
Any tighter and I would rather not wear one at all. A 28 band would be VERY uncomfortable surely.

spiderlight Thu 11-Jul-13 10:45:27

Just under 33 1/2" under boobs, 37" bending forwards...what size should I be, please?

sparkle12mar08 Thu 11-Jul-13 10:47:11

You need to understand the difference between cup size and band size - cup size is NOTHING by itself because it is calculated as a ratio to the band size. So there is no such thing as a 'D' cup by itself, a D cup on a 36 band for example is actually smaller in volume than one on a 28 band. The A cup on your 32 is actually smaller than the DD on your 28 - it is equivalent to a 28C. The reason the 32 band cuts in is because the cups are still too small and are trying to steal fabric from the band to make any kind of fit possible. Truly, try a 28DD and see.

sparkle12mar08 Thu 11-Jul-13 10:48:31

Spider - try 34C, 34D, 32D and 34DD, possibly E. You're at the top end of in between band sizes, so would need to go up a cup or even two if you find the smaller band gices the support you need.

sparkle12mar08 Thu 11-Jul-13 10:49:42

And Toasted, as a size 6 there is no way on god's good green earth that you are a 32 anything - I am a size 14 and wear a 30 back...

goodasitgets Thu 11-Jul-13 10:49:57

Posted before but this is me in a bravissimo laurel (was trying to show how low wires are)
Feel free to have a guess at my cup and back size wink I'm a size 16 top
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goodasitgets Thu 11-Jul-13 10:50:24

P.s for bra gurus I am in the correct size but its interesting to see what people judge as a cup size and back size

MadBusLady Thu 11-Jul-13 10:50:59

Try 32DD and 34D, spider.

Toasted, put your 32 band on back to front and see how it feels. Remember cup size is relative to band size and not absolute, so a DD on a 28 band is not going to be huge at all.

MadBusLady Thu 11-Jul-13 10:51:24

x-post with everybody!

alemci Thu 11-Jul-13 10:58:13

Sparkle bit confused how you can be a size 14 and have a 30" back. Do you have broad shoulders? I am size 8-10 with a 30E or even wear 32dd bra but have narrow shoulders and back. I have been properly measured

VerlaineChasedRimbauds Thu 11-Jul-13 11:01:31

Thank you to asgoodasitgets and sparkle! I will keep you posted ;)

alemci I'm also a 14-16 with a 30 back. I am very hourglass-big norks, vast hips, but narrow back and waist relatively

spiderlight Thu 11-Jul-13 11:04:01

Blimey - C/D? Really? I'm in a 36A at the moment (having tried a load on in M&S and this being the closest to a reasonable fit I could find) and there'd be room for lodgers in there! I will go and try some on though - thank you!

sparkle12mar08 Thu 11-Jul-13 11:04:58

I measure 31.5 under and 44 over on the tape measure and find that with modern stretch bra fabrics a 30 back provides the support I need. On most of the high street I can wear a size 14 and often a 12 in generous shops. However to get a blouse done up and to sit nicely over my said 30HH's I often need a 16 and fiddle about sewing darts in the waist to stop them flapping about like a parachute... I actually have narrow ish shoulders and quite close set/forwardly projected boobs.

sparkle12mar08 Thu 11-Jul-13 11:07:15

Spider - there's a typo in my post it should read 34C, 34D, 32D and 32DD, possibly E. I don't think the 34 C will actually be big enough in the cup so I'd start with the D's if I were you.

notso Thu 11-Jul-13 11:07:15

On behalf of my DM do any of you guru's have advice on measuring correctly for a mastectomy bra?
TIA

FoxMulder Thu 11-Jul-13 11:09:09

I've spent hours and hours and hours on these bra threads and bought (and sent back) about half a million bras and I'm STILL wearing cropped tops! But they're ever so comfy...

alemci Thu 11-Jul-13 11:24:37

Yes I see Sparkle but really you are probably only a 10 on top but because your bust is bigger than the size allows for, you have to go up in clothing.

I find if I buy a 10 top it is too gapey if it has no sleeves but the 8 is too tight on the waist etc.

if I pay attention to size charts my bust measurement apparently makes me a 22 or something like that. waist about a 12- 12 super curvy in pepperberry shirts for example. I wear a lot of belts and any sort of shift dress is a disaster

thanks sparkel, i see what you mean but my mind doesn't want to go there! grin

Even when I put my 32 band on before pushing boobs into cups it hurts it's so tight. Maybe i just hate underwear and find it restrictive.

The idea of a tighter band fills me with horror.
Not actually bothered what cup size i am, but very concerned about a tighter band.

Honestly I just stood in my 32 bra and tied the band only, it was super tight and although I'm small it cuts into flesh and makes 'flab' hang over.

But i know nothing about bra's. I might as well be a chap. So i do believe you all know your stuff. I just can't face the fear!!

toasted do all of your 32s feel that way-do you wear a particular brand?

sparkle12mar08 Thu 11-Jul-13 11:44:54

I might be able to get a modern 10 around my rib cage on paper but it would be skin tight and it certainly wouldn't go round my ample mum tum or over my flabby bingo wings. My waist, well, it's non existant and can only be called one as such by virtue of the fact that my hips are bigger. I ain't pretty in a full length mirror! The vanity sizing debate is interesting, because I have clothes labelled 16 from about 10-12 years ago when I weighed more than I do now, and they are the same size when laid out and measured, as some of my current size 12's. I now don't bother looking at labels for the most part, and just try stuff on till I find what fits. Like Statistically, my over bust measurement technically puts me at a size 20 or more and I've found that Pepperberry 12 Super Curvy and 14 Really Curvy are pretty good on me.

Twit Thu 11-Jul-13 12:03:02

Hmmmm, I'm about the same as sparkle wrt measurements, does that mean I got it really wrong? <crosses fingers> 32/44 = 32J?

32hh so pretty close. at bigger cups there is always a little more variance though-I think my measurements would make me a couple of cups bigger than I am

StatisticallyChallenged i have 2 M&S, 1 Topshop and 1 Debenhams.

When i measure my band size by bending over like in the diagram linked previously, I measure 29 inches.

fayebebaby Thu 11-Jul-13 12:16:00

Right I currently own a 36A,36AA and 36B, all measured by M & S, just measured myself am 32 under and 37.5 over, am not wearing the right size am I???

ok can't speak for top shop but the other two are both notorious for wonky back sizes-see up thread for m and s. at 29 you could try a 30 rather than 28 as you won't need as firm a band if you are relatively small busted. I can't remember what your over was now-on phone

fluzle Thu 11-Jul-13 12:37:37

Just measured 29" under and 35" round norks - could someone who understands these complicated mathematical equations tell me what size this makes me...I'm sure I must have miscalculated!

GiraffesAndButterflies Thu 11-Jul-13 12:43:45

Thanks Sorrel. That makes sense blush

Ok I am just over 30" under bust and 37" around it. Recently measured as 36C by Mothercare although in their defence I'm bf DD1 and my boobs do seem extremely changeable. I actually bought size 38 because anything smaller seemed unbearably tight
Do I have to try size 30s?? confused

juneybean Thu 11-Jul-13 12:46:10

Yeah I'm desperately trying to get my friends to see sense, they're all in 34 bands the same as me whilst they're all size 10s and I'm a size 16... They don't believe me when I say they're probably a 30D.

cottoncandy Thu 11-Jul-13 12:51:33

Read this thread last night. This morning was in Rigby and Peller and am a 30C instead of a 34A. Oh and £250 lighter and could have spent soooo much more!
Thanks ladies!!

30/37 start at 30f

29/35 try 28e, 28f, 30e and 30dd

OneHolyCow Thu 11-Jul-13 13:02:07

ouryve wow, see, that makes me think too..
I'm still struggling with the FF part. I will surely be chased out of bra-shop if I get too close to those, being yelled at: Those are for women with big norks! Away with you!

SorrelForbes Thu 11-Jul-13 13:05:06

cottoncandy I am envy of your trip to R&P. They stock some absolutely beautiful bras in your size. Alas, their stock is a bit more matronly in the G+ cup!

GiraffesAndButterflies Thu 11-Jul-13 13:13:09

Statistically shock shock shock

fluzle Thu 11-Jul-13 13:19:56

Statistically shock at 28e etc. M&S told me 34b! Where would I even find a bra in such a size?!

debenhams John Lewis bravissimo or online are best bets. m and s are fundamentally shit I am afraid

Albiebee Thu 11-Jul-13 13:38:48

Lurked though this thread and measured myself properly according to bra guru. Was wearing 36C turns out I'm 32E! Bra shopping this morning yielded poor results, especially as I'm pg and after a non-wired bra. The only ones I could find were for breast feeding. Any ideas?

bravissimo have a few soft cups however as long as the bra fits well it is perfectly fine to wear wires throughout pregnancy and feeding

Albiebee Thu 11-Jul-13 14:09:22

Thanks statistically I'll have another look around. smile

Lioninthesun Thu 11-Jul-13 14:20:35

Have any of you lovely ladies on the fitting side done a YouTube film on this? I think it would be great to be able to post something on FB as I know so many women need enlightenment!

notso I'm fit trained for mastectomy bras too.

Several questions in addition to the usual underband measurement.
What surgery has been done, how long ago, where are the scars (in relation to where a bra would fit/touch) and have they healed, has any reconstruction been done, what type of prosthetic (if any) is being used/offered?

Sorry, a couple more. Are there any areas of numbness or sensitivity and is there any planned or ongoing treatment?

If I post my measurements, could one of you talented people help me work it out please?
Currently I'm wearing 36FF/G

35 inches under
47 over!
I last got fitted at Bravissimo May 2012.

You lovely people are fab grin

at 35/47 I would start at 34hh/j and 36h/hh but how is the fit on your current bra

I have always worn a 36B, but I wouldn't say any of my bras fit well

I'm too shy to go into anywhere like Bravissimo as I thought they only do larger cup sizes.
Last time I went shopping i tried on a 34C but it was too tight, so I really do think I am a 36. Maybe I just need some better quality bra's rather than a different size.

The cups seem ok, maybe a little tight, the back is good, but shoulder straps dig in and leave marks.
H/HH cup? Wow, thank you. I will get shopping this weekend smile

Youvecat If you turn out to be a 'high street size' i.e. 34-38 band and up to an F cup, then there are cheaper options that will fit properly.

I have found well fitting bras for two friends, one a 36D and the other a 36F, both in Primark for about £6 each.

The ladies in Bravissimo don't have to see your naked boobs if you're shy, they will wait outside the door until you're wearing what they give you to try on smile

DisneyDiva87 Thu 11-Jul-13 15:38:07

YouveCat just go in to Bravissimo they do from a D cup so you don't even have to have huge norks to shop there. Once you've gone in for the first time you won't be so embarrassed next time. Plus they are good for fittings and I don't think they would turn anyone away for being too small if they wanted a fitting.

I'm not embarrassed about people seeing my boobs during a fitting, I just imagine going in and them saying, no that's right you are a B cup and ""oooh what a wide back you've got!" grin

according to the measuring thingy further up I come out as 33 inches underneath and 36 over boobs

That makes me a 32C, but I know I wouldn't be able to breathe in a 32 inch band. DD is a 34 and she's thinner than me

Also if Bravissimo do for D cup up they won't have anything to fit me
Where else is good to go? (sorry haven't read entire thread)

It would be more likely a 32D. And unless DD has been fitted somewhere good she may not be a 34 either

notso Thu 11-Jul-13 16:31:34

marriednotdead
I will have to speak to Mum for answers to your questions. How should she measure though?
She has a stick on prosthetic which is slightly bigger than her breast should she wear it to measure?

showtunesgirl Thu 11-Jul-13 16:51:05

YouveCatToBeKittenMe you probably think you can't breathe in a 32 but that would because previously you would've been wearing the wrong cup size so it would've been stealing from the band width.

If your DD is thinner than you, I highly suspect that she is not a 34.

AgathaF Thu 11-Jul-13 17:11:56

I think that Bravissimo are happy to advise, even if there bras don't quite fit you, so it's probably worth going in to them anyway. Remember too, that just like with any other clothing, different makes and styles fit differently, so even if you measure as a 32C, they may well have a 32D that fits you perfectly.

Skintorama Thu 11-Jul-13 17:37:08

So if I'm a 30 under and 36 on top, that makes me what?

I'm a bit shocked and awed. I've always worn a 34B.....

30E I think, I might be wrong, double check with some of the more experienced ladies on here first grin

indeed, 30E as a start point

Jojobump1986 Fri 12-Jul-13 01:15:03

Right, I've not had a chance to go proper bra shopping yet but I got so over excited about changing from a 34D to a 30E/F that I just had to buy a cheapy bra in Tesco. They only seemed to go down to 32 so I hunted for ages & eventually found a 32E. Not perfect but surely it's got to be better than what I already had! So far it feels... Odd! I've been wearing mothercare nursing bras since DS1 was born 20 months ago so getting a wired bra feels strange. It's got thicker straps & a 3-hook fastening so it's all a bit different! One thing that makes me wonder if it's not such a great fit is the bit at the front. There doesn't seem to be enough space between the breasts for it to be completely comfortable. Is that a size issue or should I be looking at other styles that are narrower in the middle? This bra does seem designed to separate them.

I do fully intend shopping for properly fitting bras really soon, I've just got to convince DH that I really do need them! Any recommendations for where to get unusual sizes on a budget? It seems like most of the cheaper places I've seen online start at 32 or don't do 30 past DD! <Sigh>

IsThatTrue Fri 12-Jul-13 07:03:48

jojo brastop have a great sale online, free returns, and a brilliant range of sizes.

jojo sounds like a style issue with regard to the separation. If you have close set breasts then plunges may suit you better

Skintorama Fri 12-Jul-13 07:56:28

Right, I'm going into town today to try on bras in a 30E/32DD shock. I can't spend more than about £30 on two bras, and in town we have M&S, BHS, a dept store with some concessions (no idea what though) and TK Maxx.

Any recommendations?

I'd start with the department store for trying on. You will manage two for 30 online so that may be a better option for purchasing once size worked out. tk maxx probably worth a look too

Skintorama Fri 12-Jul-13 08:20:00

Thank you thanks

Onetwo34 Fri 12-Jul-13 12:11:01

I don't understand. So with a 30 under bust and a 35 round the bust I should be a 30DD? Eh? Is that right?

SorrelForbes Fri 12-Jul-13 12:15:21

Yep, that's correct. You could be a slightly different size (e.g. 30D, 30E) in different brands/styles.

IsThatTrue Fri 12-Jul-13 12:38:34

Right I got my brastop order, I'm def a 34 atm (losing weight right now but need bras that fit even if I shrink out of them soon) although I'm on the tightest setting, I stupidly ordered 34s and 36s thinking I couldn't possibly be a 32, do you think I should keep 1 34 but order 32s soon?

Also the one I've just put on kinda pinches under the arms where it goes from strap to bra, any idea what's causing this?

TheSmallPrint Fri 12-Jul-13 12:48:54

Bra update: grin
My Bravissimo 34DD bra arrived today and incredibly it does fit BUT didn't look great at all and still looked very slightly 4 boobed with straps short. Longer straps meant no lift though. Think I may have to actually leave the house and try on lots of different styles to find something perfect.

Thank you ladies.

isthattrue if you are on the tightest setting on 34s and shrinking it may be worth ordering 32s and using an extender for a few weeks. The extenders are only a couple of £ but you might get a bit more life out of them that way. Personally when I lose weight my back shrinks before my actual boobs normally!

thesmallprint which bra did you order out of interest - if you can link we can probably suggest what the issue is.

IsThatTrue Fri 12-Jul-13 13:06:26

Thanks statistically I think I'll keep 1 as I'm bfing I want to have at least 1 good fitting bra, even if it is only for now. The second one I've tried is definitely a lot better than the first with regards to pinching. So I'll keep this one. Send the rest back.
I've gone from thinking I was a 38D to a 34GG!!!

Onetwo34 Fri 12-Jul-13 13:19:40

I am wearing a 34A. 30DD is a big change. I'll give it a go though.

if it's any comfort 34s to 30dd is a very common resize that you will see on these threads. because of the old plus 4/5 method places like m&s put someone measuring 30/35 in a 34s where a good shop like bravissimo or John Lewis would make that more like a 30dd-although they fit by eye

that should be 34a not 34s oops

ThreeMusketeers Fri 12-Jul-13 13:40:35

The 'Bra Intervention' cured my chronic back pain. It was so bad that I'd given up ever being pain-free as had tried everything.
Apart from changing my bras from 36B to 34E!
Hallelujah!
Within a week my back pain was gone.
Bless the Bra Interventors!!!!

goodasitgets Fri 12-Jul-13 14:01:34

BrandAlley - quick, Curvy Kate bras v cheap, have just seen them for about £12

goodasitgets Fri 12-Jul-13 14:04:59

Also panache tango plunge on there for £8

bohoec Fri 12-Jul-13 14:11:16

Onetwo your measurements are the same as mine and I've been wearing a 34a / 34b depending on brand. I'm off to try some 30dd bras today. I'm still not convinced, but willing to try some on to see after all the endorsements on here!

Skintorama Fri 12-Jul-13 14:23:57

Unbelievably, well probably not for you guys, I am now the proud owner of two 32D bras that fit beautifully.

I was in a 34b before and am small of boob.

This is revelatory.

I was also earwigging in the changing rooms at a woman who was bemoaning the lack of 40a bras, and I wanted to run out and tell her. But unfortunately I was a bit topless at the time so didn't.

Skintorama, you might find that you eventually end up going down to a 30. It's quite common for people to get to their "true" size in stages. You might be fine with the 32 of course but just worth mentioning. I know a lot of people who have gone through an intermediate back size!

Skintorama Fri 12-Jul-13 14:33:14

I actually tried on loads of different sizes, 30dd, 30d, 32Dd etc and it was the two (same brand) 32d ones that fitted the best.

So from now on I will do the same again, try dozens in that size range.

I can't thank you enough for this thread.

Calamitykate Fri 12-Jul-13 14:47:32

Blimey - don't sizes vary?!

Went to Ann Summers today (sale) and tried various sizes on.

My first "post intervention" bra was from Tesco. Beautiful fit at 34F.

Tried same size in AS. Tiny cups!

Went up to 34G. Cups STILL too small except for in one bra.

I used to squeeze into 36DD in there!

They do indeed - I have a "base size" which is always the first I try on but I have about 3 cup sizes variance in my bra-drobe

MissRenataFlitworth Fri 12-Jul-13 15:13:08

Can I ask for some more advice please? I've just bought an Elomi Caitlyn in a 42K. The back is fine, tight but not uncomfortable, but the cups are all wrong. Fastened on the loosest hooks the wires are right round my back, I can get my fists in the tops of the cups, and the gore is way too high and won't sit back where it should against the skin. Do I need a smaller cup in a different style?

I would say probably down two cups to start which should give you a bigger range of styles too

MissRenataFlitworth Fri 12-Jul-13 16:49:31

With a stretchy band I could go down a back size too, I think. The Caitlyn is lovely but not the right shape for me - the wires are too wide. Luckily I didn't pay full price for it and can return it to Leia. They have the Fantasie Salsa in a 40JJ - do you think that might fit better?

TheSmallPrint Fri 12-Jul-13 17:11:46

Statistically bra is here It's described as balconette but it doesn't sit like one, it's more full.

Yeah I wouldn't call Rebecca balconette either. It could be a shape issue - because it is quite high if your breast fullness is at the top it can cause problems. Moulded cups are very inflexible when it comes to getting the right fit. If anything fantasie tends to run big in the cup so you might want to try Es and possibly even fs if you are doing a try on session

It sounds like the Fantasie might be worth a shot MissRenata

SorrelForbes Fri 12-Jul-13 17:21:28

I really struggle with Fantasie bras, they just don't sit right on my body (Rebecca was especially bad!) and always look a bit 'matronly'.

SorrelForbes Fri 12-Jul-13 17:28:54

Ah, that was a reply to your post about the Rebecca, Stats!

MissRenataFlitworth Fri 12-Jul-13 17:54:12

"Matronly" would be about right for me! If Fantasie bras run a bit big in the cup do they run true to size on the band? Brastop have the Curvy Kate Emily in a 40JJ - I believe they have quite stretchy bands?

SorrelForbes Fri 12-Jul-13 17:57:33

I find the CK bands run a bit bigger than the norm.

CK are big in band, bit small in cup although the Emily was about right. It didn't work for me but might well for you - everyone is different.

maja00 Fri 12-Jul-13 18:15:17

Can I have some advice then? I am currently wearing a 32C, but measure 30 round my ribcage and 35 round my boobs. What size should I be?

try 30DD maja00

maja00 Fri 12-Jul-13 18:19:21

Do they even make 30DD shock grin

Thanks, I will try that.

I promise they do (I wear a 30HH!)

MissRenataFlitworth Fri 12-Jul-13 18:40:37

Right, I shall try both. I can always get an extender if a 40 is a bit too snug. Thank you!

alemci Fri 12-Jul-13 19:41:26

sorell I quite like rebecca but the higher gore took some getting used to, seems to fit me well

sparkle12mar08 Fri 12-Jul-13 19:57:53

I'm going on a mum's night out tonight. I'm taking my little tape measure in my bag...

grin

showtunesgirl Fri 12-Jul-13 20:06:36

OP here. I have STILL yet to find my perfect bra.

32FF/G, plunge, very little to next to no central gore, no boning on the side please? grin

Have you tried any of these:Bravissimo Satine, Bravissimo Dixie/starburst, freya deco, wonderbra everyday t-shirt, gossard superboost, curvy kate tempt me/elegance/wild/smoothie

if you have - how did they fit? Might help narrow things down

MadBusLady Fri 12-Jul-13 20:52:27

sparkle grin

I fortunately have a tape measure on me anyway for emergency second hand furniture purchases. I await my first intervention opportunity... (apart from my best mate, doesn't really count)

showtunesgirl Fri 12-Jul-13 21:33:21

Mmm, not tried on but the Starburst looks close so I'll swing by and try it on. Thanks SC! grin

Ooh and I've just found the Gossard Superboost on sale!

Have you got very close set boobs? If so, you might want to think about Ewa Michalak.

showtunesgirl Fri 12-Jul-13 22:00:38

No, they are wide set and high.

schooldidi Sat 13-Jul-13 13:20:00

Well, bra shopping with 13 yo dd1 was an experience. She got one sports bra in 34 d, and one t-shirt bra in 32e. Different sizes because of the different styles. So £60 gone just like that.

SorrelForbes Sat 13-Jul-13 13:26:53

Sports bras are notorious for coming up small in the back so I would say that her 'starting' size is a 32E. You can definitely find bras for her under £20 on-line which will save you having to fork out £60 each time!

schooldidi Sat 13-Jul-13 14:51:39

That's more or less what I thought. I've never seen 32e in any shops but then again, I haven't been looking for that size. It was £28 for one if them and £32 for the other. I'll look around online and see what I can get for her.

Jojobump1986 Sat 13-Jul-13 15:12:36

I'm not talking to you lot. <Sulk.>

I went bra shopping this morning & have come home with the only 30FF I could find. My 36Ds were perfectly comfortable until you pointed out they were wrong & now it's like they know. I've been a bit engorged every morning since discovering this thread. I'm going to have to get rid of all my bras & spend hours hunting for deals online because my DH was horrified that I spent £22 on one bra today. He's used to me getting them in Tesco. They don't do ridiculous sizes.

Why have you doomed me to a lifetime of not being able to find bras in shops?! Waaaaah! <Runs away crying>

The 30FF is sooo comfy though! wink

minibmw2010 Sat 13-Jul-13 15:17:29

Measured myself at 37 under and 40 leaning. Any ideas ?? I did have to use husbands measuring taps to do it mind smile Have been wearing a 38E.

Treague Sat 13-Jul-13 15:18:29

I usually wear a 36 around and no idea what my cup size is because it's worn off the labels blush

However, let's say it's B or C. I can only buy bras from a few companies as most of them seem to think that my breasts sit right in the centre of my chest. I look ridiculous in most bras as the gore isn't wide enough. I think if I dropped down to 32 or whatever, I might suffocate and look silly.

I'll give it a go, but is there nobody saying 'I cannot possibly wear that, I need my ribcage to expand when I breathe?'

SorrelForbes Sat 13-Jul-13 15:23:45

minibmw2010 I would say try a 36D but as you're already wearing a cup that's two sizes bigger that might not be quite right. How is the cup on the 38E if you scoop?

Treague The thing is that the correct band size (e.g. 32) can feel wrong if the cup is too small. I wear a 30GG and my bras are very comfortable. However, if I tried to put on a 30F I would probably suffocate as there just wouldn't be enough cup volume to contain all my flesh and the band would have to compensate.

Jojobump1986 Apart from a Christmas time trip to Bravissimo, I can't remember the last time I bough a bra in a shop. There is a very limited selection here!

n measurements Id have said a 36D however if you are currently wearing a 38E i'm guessing the measuring isn't very accurate, so how is the fit on the 38e. Can you look at thebetterbracampaign.blogspot.co.uk and run through the fitting advice to see what is good and bad and report back

Treague - I'm a size 14-16 who measure at 30" underbust and wears a 30HH. I can definitely breathe, I promise. Now, the gore issue will actually be better with the right bra (i.e. bigger cups and a smaller back) as the cup position will be different and will go further round. Are your boobs particularly wide set do you think? Can you measure yourself according to the blog I just linked and I'm sure we will be able to suggest some great bras for you.

bibbetybobbityboo Sat 13-Jul-13 17:49:48

Another thank you here, I was fitted a couple of years ago as a 36d in debenhams having gone in wearing a 38b. Having measured using the guidelines on here and hitting the next sales today I am now sitting very comfortably in my 34f!! I am in total shock but for the first time in my life I have a bra that holds all of my boob whether I am sitting standing or lying down, no armpit or back fat, i havent had to pull my shoulder straps back up once and no quad boob going on. It's a revelation!! Thanks ladies grin

You're very welcome bibbety!

notso Sat 13-Jul-13 18:39:38

I have a very happy 13 yo DD thanks to this thread she's gone from being upset about flabby armpits in her M&S measured 34A to zero flab in her Mum measured 32D. thanks smile

smile that's definitely what I like to hear notso. It's something that bugs me about M&S-so many people take their daughters there for their first bra fitting and there are so many cases of their fitters getting it wrong, and also making rude or derogatory comments about women's bodies that I just think it's setting girls up to feel uncomfortable about their breasts/bras. And that can turn in to health problems later on - back issues, nerves, neck, mastitis etc etc etc.

You've done your daughter a big favour IMO

IsThatTrue Sat 13-Jul-13 18:56:12

Right my lovely fitted bra is diffung in horribly between my breasts, everywhere else feels great. Any ideas what is causing this and how I rectify?

Most of the time its a bra specific issue. Which bra is it, and how close set are your breasts?

IsThatTrue Sat 13-Jul-13 19:56:28

Left alone they are about 2cm apart, the bra is a Flirtell adele confused this is so hard

I think the gore on that looks relatively low for that style of bra, so that could be an issue. With a 2cm gap it's probably not that it's pressing on breast but rather that the wire is pushing on your ribcage. If you have already detagged it you can try bending the wires outwards very slightly just to take the pressure off.

ouryve Sat 13-Jul-13 20:28:12

I've found out just how stretchy curvy kate bras are!

I ordered a 32FF Lottie and the same size Princess, last week. They did miraculous things to my boobs, but I had awful armpit boobs, and the central gore was nowhere near my chest. The cups were plainly too small. The 32G Lottie that arrived the other day didn't give nearly as good a shape, but at least fitted, with the usual top gape on my long, thin right boob. After one wear, it had stretched so much that I could do it up on the tightest setting. The difference in uplift was quite amazing, though, and there was much less gape.

So, I've found a princess in a 30GG and I shall see how that goes. I might have to wear it backwards for an hour to break it in, mind, since I have dodgy hands and wrists!

If this fits, I think I've found my go to bras!

There's loads of Curvy Kate for less than £15 on Amazon, btw.

It's brilliant when you find "your" bras. CK are very stretchy and I'd always suggest the lower back size - maybe with an extender for the first hour or two while it grows!

IsThatTrue Sat 13-Jul-13 20:49:22

Yeah it's detagged it felt great until last night, then this morning it felt like it was bruising my ribs. I'll try bending the wires a bit, any bra recommendations with this in mind?

ouryve Sat 13-Jul-13 21:04:48

I'll have to invest in an extender, since I'm slowly losing weight, at the moment.

It's a bit trial and error - I generally find freya and fantasie press less although they aren't quite as strong. Most bravissimo branded are OK on me for that- I love the Betsy Bow, it's one I wear all the time

BookFairy Sat 13-Jul-13 22:12:28

statistically thank you so much! I went bra shopping at John Lewis and it was such a revelation! There was even a sale smile

Did you manage to find something wonderful and well fitted? The John Lewis fitters are generally quite good - a few not so but certainly head and shoulders above the other department stores

BookFairy Sat 13-Jul-13 23:26:05

I found 5 perfect bras in the sale smile As soon as I put on a 32 DD balconette and scooped I could immediately see that it fitted me perfectly. On my way down Oxford St I kept noticing all the women who were wearing the wrong size!

TondelayoSchwarzkopf Sat 13-Jul-13 23:34:20

The shaming of Marks & Spencers on here is quite justified. This is kind of off topic but I once went to M&S Marble Arch and asked in the lingerie department where they stocked their suspender belts. "A suspender belt?" the lingerie saleswoman in Mark's & Spencer's flagship store asked. "A suspender belt?" She then went to ask her colleague what that was!

BringOn2014 Sun 14-Jul-13 00:27:57

Hoping someone can help me with my measurements, ive been wearing 32H and feeling a little tight all over. off to get new bras tomorrow so what size should I be buying? I measure 32, 45. Thanks!

Hi, I have read this thread in amazement (although haven't got to the end before I was compelled to measure!!) I'm measuring 31/39". What size does that make me? I currently wear a 36D/34DD, but these are nursing bras (if that makes a difference?). Any help would be most appreciated. Thank you xx

sleepywombat Sun 14-Jul-13 05:55:25

OK I really don't understand (sorry).

I measure 30, 34. All my [boobed] life I've worn 34A moving up to 34DD when pregnant/bf. I have never found bras in what I thought was my size uncomfortable. I have tried on a 32B once & I couldn't even do the strap up around my back.

So are all these cheap(ish) shops/dept stores wrong? How can that be? Does it matter, if it is not the 'right' size, if it feels comfortable? Do I need to buy an expensive bra in the 'right' size?

Also how does this translate into other countries. Here (Australia) 34A translates into 10A. That also fits fine. I do not fit into size 6 or 8 bras.

maja00 Sun 14-Jul-13 06:15:15

So you should be a 30D, is that right?

Maybe try one in that size and see if there's a difference?

I'm in Aus too and I was led to believe that 30=8, 32=10, 34= 12, 36= 14 etc. at least that's what my uk bras say on the tags.

Whilst some shops (M&S) have some quality issues, it's not so much a matter of price and needing to buy a very expensive bra. You can get some fabulous bras at very reasonable prices - admittedly I can't tell you the Australian sources but over here (and they do international delivery) look at www.brastop.co.uk for an idea.

Now, the most likely reason for the 32B feeling too tight is that it was too small in the cup for you. If the cup isn't big enough, then it pulls on the fabric in the back making it feel too tight. So I am around a 30HH, but I can't fasten some of my old 30Gs at all and my 30GGs are unbearably tight.

The easiest way to do it is to go and pick up a 30C/D/DD/E (always better to try a few bigger too as it's easier to spot a cup which is too big than one which is too small) then pop the bra on back to front. It should be fastened on the loosest hook (one nearest the end). The reason for trying it back to front is to isolate the band from the cups so you can check the band is ok. It should feel firm (and will feel tighter than your 34s obviously) but it shouldn't be unbearably tight. If it's awful then you might want to try a 32 in that specific bra but given that you measure 30 I would suggest until you are very sure of your size that with each new bra a 30 is your starting point.

Once you are ok with the back, pop the bra off and put it on. To do this, put your arms through the straps, lean right forward and drops your boobs in to the cups.

Now time to scoop. Reach round and fasten the clips and stand up. All those bumps, lumps, back fat, armpit fat - they get yanked in to the bra! However it only works if A: the back is small enough and b: the cup is big enough. Until you are used to it, stand side on to a mirror. Lean forward, put your right hand inside your left cup, reach round as far as you can and pull/scoop/yank all the flesh/soft tissue that is bumping under or over the back, around the straps or the armpit and haul its ass in to the cup. Repeat at other side. You might need to do it a couple of times (as doing one side knocks the other out slightly)

Now have a look and see how the bra fits. A too small cup will have bulging somewhere - not necessarily in the middle. Depending in your shape you might bulge between the cups, over them, at the armpit or towards the back. If the cup is too small the scoop won't have the desired impact. So any bulging in these areas try a cup size up first.

Australian sizes - according to a couple of websites I have just checked, a 30 is an 8 and the cup sizes are the same. Are you sure a 34A is a 10A - if these charts are right then it would explain why trying an 8B was far too tight as the cups would have been quite a bit smaller than you need.

SorrelForbes Sun 14-Jul-13 08:43:14

BringOn2014 Try a 32J and maybe a 32HH/32JJ.

LilBlondePessimist Try a 30G/FF and a 32FF/F

Use the guidance a post or two above by StatisticallyChallenged to help you get the band fit right first before sorting the cups.

IsThatTrue Sun 14-Jul-13 09:57:21

statistically thanks so much, I've bent the wires out slightly in the middle and it is much better! I love having a bra that fits! smile

Jojobump1986 Sun 14-Jul-13 16:00:30

I'm looking for a reasonably priced nursing bra in 30FF with as little gore as possible. Any recommendations? The ones I'm looking at because I found them on eBay are the Royce Heather & the Panache Alisha but both look to be wider than I'd like in the middle.

Unless you are looking at wired bras, I wouldn't worry too much about the gore on nursing bras. The buggers never sit flat anyway - IME anyway. I have freakishly close set boobs but it isn't a problem in non-wired bras as they just don't have the same ability to tack to your body

blobandsnail Sun 14-Jul-13 20:25:07

This may have already been asked but if I'm honest I can't be bothered to go through 16 pages.

I've done the bra intervention, am now totally in love with my boobs (can't stop touching them!) in a 34G bra.

However I have a bit of a problem, I have a drawer full of bras I will never in a million years fit into (38/36 B's/C's). I don't want to just bin them and I doubt a charity shop would want them. I've heard of charities that recycle bras. Does anyone know of any or have any personal recommendations?

Dorange Sun 14-Jul-13 20:50:01

If you are member of your local freecycle webiste, you can post in there and people who are interested will come and collect

MadBusLady Sun 14-Jul-13 21:02:53
BringOn2014 Sun 14-Jul-13 21:37:39

Thanks Sorrel I tried on a few freya bras in debenhams today and it seems like I am a 30HH, all the 32s were far too loose around my ribcage. Of course they didnt actually have any freya bras in stock in 30HH hmm but at least I can order a few online now.

SorrelForbes Sun 14-Jul-13 22:13:24

That might be to your advantage BringOn2014 as you'll find much better bargains online!

sleepywombat Mon 15-Jul-13 01:37:10

Thanks for your advice. Didn't know 8 = 30 in Aus, always assumed because I wear a 10, I should just take a 10 bra & they felt similar to my 34As! Will look around for some 8Ds & give them a go - have never seen them in the shops (couldn't find any 10D or DDs when pregnant and ended up ordering maternity bras in 34DD from M&S online), but will ask some sales staff.

Looked on brastop, thanks for that, just seems odd that somebody with such a flat chest (like I don't even need to wear a bra most of the time) would be looking on a site for big bras! So is anybody an A cup - or just pre-pubescents?!

SorrelForbes Mon 15-Jul-13 07:03:30

A D cup on a 30 band is really quite a small cup, volume wise. This diagram shows that quite well.

I think in all the bra threads over the last few months, there's only been 1 genuine A cup (1" difference between the under bust and across bust measurements).

Dorange Mon 15-Jul-13 08:12:56

I'm finding it so complicated........
But at least went from 34A to 30D and me and my boobs are happy

WeAreSix Mon 15-Jul-13 12:02:33

Sorrel That diagram is fantastic! Is it ok to share?

SorrelForbes Mon 15-Jul-13 12:20:41

Of course. It's not mine, I saved it from a bra website ages ago but can't remember which one!

PareyMortas Mon 15-Jul-13 12:25:12

Another shocked MNr here. I've been in a 36/38 b/c for the last ten years or so, have just measured following your advice and I should be a 32E. I'm finding it very hard to believe, but will try out some bras in the shops and see how they feel.

lljkk Mon 15-Jul-13 12:31:08

With so many MN threads on this I'm amazed that anyone is left in the country still wearing the wrong size (supposedly, I am another heretic who won't be converted).

IdaClair Mon 15-Jul-13 12:33:51

I'm a 32 under and a 36 over.

I have 32d-32dd and 34ds in my drawer, but have terrible back fat/underarm bulge in nearly everything, and since stopping BF 10mo DD a few weeks ago I seem to be lacking fullness at the top and there is gaping at the top when I sit down. I also have 32 back sizes in the drawer I cannot physically fasten round me.

Am I not actually wearing the right size? I'm a bit confused.

SorrelForbes Mon 15-Jul-13 12:34:04

Couldn't we try and convert you lljkk <wheedles>

SorrelForbes Mon 15-Jul-13 12:36:10

IdaClair What do your current 32s feel like done up back to front? Of they feel ok like that but then become too tight when put on properly, it's a cup size issue. You sound like someone that may need a bigger cup than your measurements suggest. A lot of back fat and underarm bulge can be cured by going up a cup (or more).

I'd suggest trying a 32E/F/FF.

SorrelForbes Mon 15-Jul-13 12:36:43

PareyMortas Remember that an E on a 32 is not like an E on a 38.

GoatsHaveStrangeEyes Mon 15-Jul-13 12:44:11

Can someone help me? I have just measured and am 38 under bust and 44 over. I currently wear a 38c but I know it's not right sad. Any suggestions for size?

SorrelForbes Mon 15-Jul-13 12:46:31

GoatsHaveStrangeEyes Those measurements would suggest a 38E. How are your 38Cs fitting> If you scoop is there a lot of overspill? If you put a bra on back to front, can you stretch it out a long way? It may be that you need to size down/up to a 36E/F.

GoatsHaveStrangeEyes Mon 15-Jul-13 12:48:55

Yeah there can be quite a bit of overspill, it depends which bra I have on really. Not a good look.

I am off bra shopping at the weekend, I will try and E cup see how that fits. Thanks.

TarkaTheOtter Mon 15-Jul-13 13:03:49

I measured myself after a previous thread. Went from a 36D/DD to a 30H. It felt tight for about a week. Now it feels fine and looks so much better. I can move in my bra and not get quad boob.
Definitely a convert.

ouryve Mon 15-Jul-13 16:52:56

sleepywombat - I suspect that most men aren't even an A cup!

popperdoodles Mon 15-Jul-13 17:07:19

ok bra experts I am measure 32 ribcage and 38.5 across boobs. am falling out of my 34c bras. what sizes should I try on? thanks

DisneyDiva87 Mon 15-Jul-13 17:28:59

I'm not an expert but I think that means you should be trying around a 32DD

I think popper you need to try 32E maybe a 32F for that extra half inch. Might depend on style though

popperdoodles Mon 15-Jul-13 17:39:04

Thank you

sparkle12mar08 Mon 15-Jul-13 20:11:28

Definitely a 32F to start with Popper, a DD will be two cup sizes too small, E a cup too small.

sleepywombat Tue 16-Jul-13 00:55:38

ouryve - yes, dh has bigger boobs than me, which according to these new measurements would make him at least an E cup!

newestbridearound Tue 16-Jul-13 10:13:01

Hello bra saviours smile

Just wanting to check I've got this right... I've been wearing the wrong bra size for ages now, I know it isn't correct because it's uncomfortable and gapey and just plain wrong. But I was fitted and told I was a 38B so that's what I bought at the time!

Measured myself this morning and band measurement was 36 and bust measurement was 41. Does that therefore make me a 36D/DD? My husband swears that sounds huge and that I can't need that size hmm

I need to order some new ones, but I'm largely housebound at the moment and don't want to have to keep on returning lots of different sizes. Thought I'd throw myself at your mercy and see if that would be a good starting point to order! Thank you.

definitely start at 36dd and ignore dh who probably has dd=Katie Price syndrome.

I was recently in the nearest large town to us so I went into M&S (having found nothing 'just right' in our Debenhams).

6 years ago M&S measured me as a 38b. They measured me OVER the ill-fitting 36B I was wearing at the time, having changed shape after dcs.

These threads told me I should be a 34DD. So I filled a basket with a selection of 34 D and DD, and a couple of 36D. Headed for the lingerie changing room. Assistant tells me 'wait there the fitter is not available at the moment'.

I barged past her saying 'I don't want a fitter. Your fitters measure me and sell me bras that ride up at the sides if I so much as hiccup, with bands that are an inch away from my ribs at the front, wires that end up half way over my boobs, and in which my boobs are not supported, but just hang there covered in lace. I am just going to try all these on till I find the right size for me.

I tried em all on. And mumsnet was right. I have a few 34dds now and all fit perfectly. No riding up, boobs pointing more or less forwards instead of down and to the sides, band sitting flat all the way round. I keep looking down as they are sort of separate and stick out instead of being squashed to my chest!

So, was talking to my neighbour that same afternoon when we took the kids to the park. She said

'you can't be a DD, that's really bazooka-ish'

So I told her how to measure, how it should fit etc, and this look of 'clouds clearing' came behind her eyes and I bet she's in bloody marks this weekend.

In this warm weather all my summer dresses look fab with my new shape boobs!

I started wearing bras 30 years ago, and up till LAST WEEKEND I know know that every bloody one of them for all those years has been the wrong size and I am not flat chested!!!

Skintorama Tue 16-Jul-13 10:58:19

IT's revelatory, isn't it?

I've just tried on a 34B from my underwear drawer and I am baffled as to how I ever thought it fitted, let alone the 36B that M&S insisted I was.

I now own 2 32D bras that fit beautifully, and I've ordered a couple of 30DDs to try because I think they me be even better.

TWENTY YEARS of wearing the wrong size bra.

SorrelForbes Tue 16-Jul-13 11:03:49

I absolutely love hearing stories like this. MN will get everyone into the right size bra, one nork at a time!

Jojobump1986 Tue 16-Jul-13 11:22:14

It's here! It's here! Sweet 30FF comfy-ness! grin It feels weird to be wearing a tighter band, not in a bad way, just different!

WeAreSix Tue 16-Jul-13 12:48:07

I'm currently in a 30F. Back to Beavissimo this weekend to try a different size (1 year postnatal and still breastfeeding so my shape is changing).

I looked at my 34As and just thought why? Why M&S, why?
grin

Quick question here - I tried 36H as recommended here and they were a little loose in the cup even after lots of scooping so I'm trying 36G now which fit lovely after scooping but I'm finding that after an hour or two of wear I need to scoop again as the cups look a little baggy again

Is it just a case of retraining my back fat and underarm fat to stay in the right place or do I need to drop another cup size?

showtunesgirl Tue 16-Jul-13 12:54:33

How did the band fit?

The band fits fine it felt a little tight when I tried them at first but I think it was just because I'm used to wearing a 40 band hmm it all feels quite comfy now but it seems like some of the scooped flesh gradually sneaks back to where it was leaving the cups looking a bit empty at the top - if I scoop again it looks ok again for a while so I was wondering if its just because I've wearing the wrong size for so long and it will stay put after I've been wearing these ones for a while

showtunesgirl Tue 16-Jul-13 13:10:18

What were your measurements again? Because if the band was the right size, you shouldn't really getting the flesh sneaking back out again.

I'm 36 under and 47 1/2 over

I have to admit sometimes my scooped flesh sneaks out-just at the armpits. I probably reposition a couple of times a day.

sparkle12mar08 Tue 16-Jul-13 13:54:13

I find a quick scoop whenever I go to the loo sorts out the escaping issues, and keeps me nicely positioned all day!

Thanks smile will keep on scooping and indulge in my new found passion for buying bras

fieldfare Tue 16-Jul-13 14:28:32

Thanks for the advice! I popped into debenhams at the weekend and armed myself with a whole basket full of 36f/ff and g bras in dif styles etc. ended up with one f, one ff and 2 g t-shirt bras. I was wearing a 36e before! I have scooped and am so happy with how they're fitting. And my boobs are so comfy! The only mildly irksome thing is how thick the straps are, but then I suppose they need to be.
Thanks again for the advice.

AgathaF Tue 16-Jul-13 17:21:22

fieldfare the thick straps are the one thing that I don't like about wearing properly fitting bras, especially since I wear vest tops a lot, even in winter. Recently I have discovered Cleo by Panache - much thinner straps so I have purchased a few and am a much happier, thin-strapped wearing, bunny now.

SorrelForbes Tue 16-Jul-13 17:37:42

I was just going to suggest Cleo bras for thinner straps (although they only have two rows of hooks instead of my preferred three). Fauve are also pretty good for prettier styling.

bottersnike Tue 16-Jul-13 19:01:55

I've been following these threads with huge interest, and took myself off to John Lewis this morning to try on my new size - 32D instead of my usual 34B (32" around ribcage, 36" over boobs).
I tried on loads of styles, but only found one (plunge style) that seemed to fit really well. Is it possible I've still got the size wrong, or am I not fitting and adjusting properly?
I'd love to wear balconette styles (anything that would make my boobs look like happy puppies rather than sad, droopy puppies!), but they just look odd - the cups still look too big.
Help! What should I try?

It could be that balconettes don't suit your breast shape. I struggle with them because they just don't go with the shape of my boobs.

SorrelForbes Tue 16-Jul-13 20:50:34

Yep, my best friend (who has recently lost and then gained weight through illness) is quite busty, about a 28GG, really struggles with balconettes/halfcups as her boobs are very soft and bottom heavy (with a narrow root, she's very slim) and she can't fill the top of the cup (no cakes on a plate for her). However, she desparatley wants some lift.

I think she (and probably you) would be better with something with a slightly fuller cup (not necessarily a traditional full cup). I might be wrong (Where are you Married?) but I've read that the following styles are good for bottom heavy boobs:

Bravissimo Alana / Dotty Spotty
Ewa Michalak CH and CHP lines
Curvy Kate Thrill Me
Fantasie Tina
Cleo Lucy / Marcie / Melissa
Freya Jolie