A well fitting, smart/sexy and preferably push-up bra size 38A... impossible???

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justkeeponsmiling Thu 27-Jun-13 22:42:46

I am sooo fed up with trying to find a well fitting bra, preferably nice looking and adding a bit of "volume" in my size...
I'm starting to feel like a freak!
Am i really the only person in the world with really small breasts and a slightly larger ribcage?
Every bra I find is either too tight around my chest or has gaping cups. I need a wired one as any others leave me looking completely flat-chested.
Any suggestions of shops or online retailers would be greatly appreciated!

I'm sorry, I have to ask...where have you been fitted?

I guarantee you aren't a 38A!

I'll expand a little in case you think we are frightfully rude. Most high street shops and online bra charts are still using an old method which results in a recommended size which is actually pretty wildly wrong. A few places do it right, and there are a bunch of us on here who are trying to help as many women as possible get comfortable and supportive bras.

If you truly need a 38A, then I'm sure we will find some gorgeous ones. But when measured and fitted correctly an A cup (any A cup) is actually really very rare. We've probably refitted thousands on here by now, and I think I have seen one person who was a true A. The reason for this is that most big shops are fitting what is basically a bra too big in the back and too small in the cup. So M&S, for example - temple of bra fitting and all that. They fit me in a 36F. I promise you, I am not a 36F. I get fitted at Bravissimo and know bucketloads about bra fitting. I'm (roughly) a 30HH/J. That's pretty far out.

If somewhere like M&S say you are a 38A, then changes are you are more likely a 34DD. I promise, all marbles are intact - they are getting it that wrong. The issues you mention are all classic bad fit problems.

If you have one, grab a tape measure and take your bra off. Measure underneath your boobs firmly (in inches) then lean forward so your boobs are hanging down, and measure around the biggest (so now the lowest!) part of your boobs. This shouldn't be pulled tight - you don't want to squash the boob tissue.

If there is around a 1" difference between these measurements, then you are a true A cup and we;ll start hunting bras! If not - post the measurements and we'll help find you a better fit.

justkeeponsmiling Thu 27-Jun-13 23:19:02

No I've got to confess, I've never been fitted. I've just tried every size in every shop in the world (or so it feels...) - 36A/B/C, 38B/C at least...
The A cups usually fit fine but 36 A cuts into my ribs and leaves me with horrible bra marks (like backfat overhang!) visible through a tight top, and I'm not even very big!
And the B cups seem massive and if I wear a low cut top they actually gape, so you can see absolutely everything... Can't see how fitting might help me

piprabbit Thu 27-Jun-13 23:20:02

Listen to the lovely Statistically, please. My life has been hugely improved by a recent bra fitting thread.

piprabbit Thu 27-Jun-13 23:21:49

Go on, grab a tape measure and fit yourself (with a bit of help from MN).

MustTidyUpMustTidyUp Thu 27-Jun-13 23:23:41

Do it do it do it

justkeeponsmiling Thu 27-Jun-13 23:24:09

Wow statistically thanks!!
I'm working a nightshift at the moment so not really practical smile but will try tomorrow and get back if that's ok.
Would love to find out that i was a DD, haha!
Thank you again!

HairyLittleCarrot Thu 27-Jun-13 23:25:51

I clicked on this thread just to watch the magic happen. I thought I was a M&S 36 A. I even have some old 36 AA bras from pre children times.

I am currently and very happily wearing .....

a 32D


<blush> ok...backfat. I know about backfat. I get backfat. And I will always have a bit cos that's my shape. But. A bra which is too big in the back makes it worse, not better

and to complete the embarrassment here is some photographic proof


Solo Thu 27-Jun-13 23:36:26

Proper fitting is very important and a real eye opener.
Years ago, I was buying myself 36A bras. I went into a Contessa looking for a strapless bra and was asked what I was looking for; I told the lady who took one look at me (through my unfastened waxed jacket!) and declared 'You are not a 36A, you are a 32C!' Phft! says me, but I tried one of that size and wonders! I had a bust and cleavage! Now, I always get fitted and if you are anywhere near Bluewater, John Lewis are best. M&S are utter crap!

LegoCaltrops Thu 27-Jun-13 23:37:37

Listen to the wise lady. I was recently wearing (actually, struggling to find) a 38A, as that's what I was 'supposed' to wear. Am now in a 34C (sometimes 34D) & have never been as comfortable!

HerrenaHarridan Thu 27-Jun-13 23:39:09

I love bra intervention threads.

Listen to the mad bra ladies and your boobies will love you and look HOT

Solo Thu 27-Jun-13 23:42:48

Also, when you buy a new bra, you should be doing it up on the first hooks and only progress to the second and third set when your bras have become looser with washing and wearing. <thank you lovely JL lady that was Rigby and Peller trained).

HesterShaw Thu 27-Jun-13 23:42:56

Listen, listen listen! M&S would have me in a 34A, the wankers. I am actually a 30C/D.

Solo Thu 27-Jun-13 23:45:27

M&S put my friend into a 40F when she was actually a 36DD and she could get her whole fist into the cup! I can't work out why or how they are so bad!

gymboywalton Thu 27-Jun-13 23:47:49

marks and spencer had me a 42f

bravissimo-36 h and i had a new waist and looked like i had lost a stone!

123rd Thu 27-Jun-13 23:48:03

Sorry jumping in on this... I've just measured myself how you explained..first measurement was 32" second measurement was nearly 42"... I'm currently wearing 34dd. Am I way out???

cafecito Thu 27-Jun-13 23:48:06

I need a bra intervention, I have no idea what size I am after 2 x BF DCs and one wildly wrong M&S fitting <hunts tape measure>

pebspop Thu 27-Jun-13 23:50:04

why do m&s still measure like this? surely they should have caught up by now

123rd - fraid so, try a 32GG!
cafecito - measure as described smile
pebspop, cos they are stubborn, lazy and don't want to have to manufacture a wider range of sizes so they wedge us all in the ones they make smile If they sized us properly half of the population probably wouldn't be in their range

123rd Thu 27-Jun-13 23:59:19

Thanks...will try some new ones on

HesterShaw Fri 28-Jun-13 00:00:09

They are so arrogant. They have had it proved again and again and again and again and again and again and again that actually they are wrong but they insist they are right. They believe their main custom is old ladies who would faint if they had to buy more than a D cup.

123rd...try this with your existing bra for confirmation - I suspect if you do this you will discover significant quad boob which has been hiding at the back or under your arms.


All those bumps, lumps, back fat, armpit fat - they get yanked in to the bra! However it only works if A: the back is small enough and b: the cup is big enough.

Basically, put bra on, then stand side on to a miror. Lean forward, put your right hand inside your left cup, reach round as far as you can and pull/scoop/yank all the flesh/soft tissue that is bumping under or over the back, around the straps or the armpit and haul its ass in to the cup. Repeat at other side. You might need to do it a couple of times (as doing one side knocks the other out slightly)

Bonus points if you can top the poster who, after trying this on a bad bra, used the phrase " I look rather ridiculous. My breasts look like they are wearing ear muffs"

HesterShaw Fri 28-Jun-13 00:04:32

Though actually when I try that the flesh just slides back to where it was happy! There is no way I can get my back into a bra! grin

It takes some persistence! I do have some which slides back, but if you keep doing it (I may have the occasional tit shuffle in the loos at work!) then eventually at least some of it migrates back to where it belongs.

HesterShaw Fri 28-Jun-13 00:08:48

I think actually it is harder to do if you are smaller. There is less for the bra to grip.

Solo Fri 28-Jun-13 00:18:41

What is the purpose of 'scooping' SC please?

123rd Fri 28-Jun-13 00:19:41

Ergh...yeap 4 boobs!! In a bra that I thought fitted me quite nicely sad I also wear all of my bras on the tightest fitting which I now realise is another sign that its not the correct size.

SorrelForbes Fri 28-Jun-13 08:44:36

Ah another intervention thread. <sigh Imodium happiness>. Go Stats, go Stats ...

solo scooping moves all the breast tissue in to the cups and reduces armpit and back fat

ThoraNomiki Fri 28-Jun-13 09:22:41

I love these threads. Since I was a teenager I was insistent that measuring systems at m&s and such were wrong. They measured me at a 34 aa. I went to La Senza and sized myself a 30c (still adding 4 inches) but felt like a fraud pretending my small boobs were bigger than they were.
After reading these threads I was probably a 26 (non exsistant in adult size) or 28 with a bigger cup size. My boobs would have been the same size to hold and look at but I would have felt much better about my teenage body if I'd known my true size. Not that there's anything wrong with A and B cups anyway - all boobs are lovely!
Also we are bombarded with images of page 3 girls and slender celebs describing themselves as a 36C and you might think "I couldn't possibly need a smaller band/bigger cup than her".

SorrelForbes Fri 28-Jun-13 09:44:45

Imodium happiness? WTAF? No idea what happened there but rest assured, bra threads do not have a laxative effect on me!

Shamelessly place marking so I can see the moment when the OP discovers she's a 32D!

MirandaWest Fri 28-Jun-13 10:05:24

I was wondering about Imodium happiness grin.

I wish my mum would read these threads (in think she may lurk on on MN sometimes) as she thinks she is a 32AA. She is a size 6 and is not a 32AA. I am a size 8 at the top and am a 30C. She is smaller than I am but believes she has very small breasts. Not AA though....

WeAreSix Fri 28-Jun-13 10:32:06

Bra intervention threads are the best MN threads. Ever.


Solo Fri 28-Jun-13 10:33:47

Thank you SC ... sounds really uncomfortable though.

its the opposite solo, once everything is where it belongs and the bra fits right it's more comfortable as there is less digging in going on

ZolaBuddleia Fri 28-Jun-13 10:43:35

I can second the scooping thing, makes you look thinner, there's much less cutting in (and subsequent poking out), and if the cup is big enough you don't get that awful chafing where the top of the underwiring under your armpit is digging in.

I'm also a fan of the Bend Over Tit Jiggle Manouevre to get the bad boys in there to start with.


Solo Fri 28-Jun-13 13:15:37

Hmmmmm...might give that a go...I do lean over my cups to get them in properly too smile

Zola My local bra fitter describes that as 'the gravity shuffle'. She was really anti-scooping though, but I can't see how you can train boob tissue that has ended up in the wrong place any other way.

ZolaBuddleia Fri 28-Jun-13 19:46:03

When you say 'train' and that it's 'ended up in the wrong place', is that a biology thing? Has wearing a wrong fitting bra actually relocated breast tissue? Very curious about the whole thing!

justkeeponsmiling Fri 28-Jun-13 22:08:01

Ok, brilliant! Just got the tape out and I appear to be 30.5 inches underbust measurement (?) and 33.5 inches across when leaning forward...
statistically, any suggestions??

crazzzzycat Fri 28-Jun-13 22:12:19

30C or 30D I reckon.

You've been wearing a 36 ????!!!!! faints

Justkeep - that means you should be trying a 30C and a 30D...no wonder you have been struggling!

Zola - it's a mix. So sometimes you just have wide/far back boobs and the scooping is just making everything look and feel as good as possible. But bad bras can make the tissue migrate. We've had quite a few women where they have literally ended up with a dent in the breast tissue because of bad bras. At lesser extents, cups which are too small push the tissue backwards/outwards making armpit fat and backfat far worse.

AuntPepita Fri 28-Jun-13 22:14:27

30C. I knew you weren't a 38A!

crazzzzycat Fri 28-Jun-13 22:16:33

Should say they will feel very tight to begin with but that's only because you aren't used to it.

justkeeponsmiling Fri 28-Jun-13 22:24:25

I'm well excited now, will go bra-shopping tomorrow and report back! I can't believe I've been this far out all these years!
I'm really grateful for all the support, can't believe I'm a C or D cup, hahaha smile

"I'm really grateful for the support"

Ha, wait til you try a proper bra, then you'll know support!

CatInWellies Fri 28-Jun-13 22:37:21

Solo how bizarre, M&S 'measured' me as a 40f as well, yet by the Bra Guru's reckonings (a few name changes ago) I should be wearing a 36G! Very different from a 34DD. Makes one wonder if they're actually doing any measuring at all...
Incidentally, my 40f bras started off comfy, but now are all kinds of wrong.

onedev Fri 28-Jun-13 22:58:06

Can I get in on this please!! I've just measured underneath & it's a 32 and then bending forward they're a 38. What would that work out as?

32E I reckon...

Yup, 32E to start with

Ooh, can I have a go? 32F onedev!
(Have I got that right?)

justkeeponsmiling Fri 28-Jun-13 23:05:00

smile liking the pun

Oh, apparently not, but nearly grin

onedev Fri 28-Jun-13 23:06:42

How does that work though as my boobs are small?? I'll definitely be going shopping tomorrow! Thanks grin

TrixyPixie Fri 28-Jun-13 23:11:45

is there a thread / ultimate guide someone can link to? or should I do my measurements and post here? (paranoid as boobs very small but very droppy, shock at the second measurement...)

AuntPepita Fri 28-Jun-13 23:13:33

Oh go on post. You will be pleasantly surprised! smile

onedev Fri 28-Jun-13 23:15:03

Pretty much the 3rd or 4th post on here tells you how to do it - that's what I did. Can't wait to try on bras tomorrow!

onedev Fri 28-Jun-13 23:16:04

Sorry, thought you meant how to measure, not how to do it discretely!

onedev, a 32E isn't huge, honestly. The media misportrays bra sizes hugely. have a look at this, this and this

Trizie, there is a blog at thebetterbracampaign.blogspot.co.uk with fitting info but seriously, just pop them up here, we've seen them all! smile

Sorry, when i say we've seen them all I mean there is NO combination of numbers which could shock us. Seriously.

onedev Fri 28-Jun-13 23:30:18

Wow - I know what you mean about the size, but from a personal perspective, it feels much less embarrassing buying (or even just trying on) a 32E as opposed to a 34 or 36A !!

Thank you again - look forward to shopping tomorrow! grin

Oh I can believe that - I'm well used to the weird looks when I pick up my bra size too.

HerrenaHarridan Fri 28-Jun-13 23:36:31

C'mon trixy post em and be intervened with grin

Did I mention I love these threads grin

Cup size is nothing without band size - saying you're a 'D' cup is like trying to tell the time with just the minute hand.

onedev Sat 29-Jun-13 00:11:11

I get the analogy but still don't understand how it works!!

Cup size is the difference between chest size and over-boob size. So, an A cup is one inch difference between under and over-bust.

harmonyuk2005 Sat 29-Jun-13 14:24:21

Hi can I have some help as well please have been reading bra threads for ages but haven't dared post! smile i'm currently wearing a 34a cup its a gossard I think, done up on tightest fitting. have really small boobs.
I've done the measurements and underneath is 30" and around (whilst leaning forward) is I think 34" but my boobs don't really have much substance! (years and years of bf) i'd love a really good fitting bra and would also appreciate some recommendations on what to buy if i'm wearing the wrong size.
Thank you very much smile

missbopeep Sat 29-Jun-13 14:45:38

You should try a 30C or a 30D, or maybe a 32C.

I measure 29-30 under bust, and 35 over- and wear a 32D in most makes.
I used to buy 34A shock.

I can just above get into a 30 inch back ( such as John Lewis own which seem generous) and very few makes do a 30.

I find M&S Limited Collection bras in the push up style ( they have a kind of shelf of foam in the cups) give lots of cleavage.

harmonyuk2005 Sat 29-Jun-13 14:47:21

I've just looked at the guide link and think i'm a 31 round now underneath, wasn't leaning forward enough? I do have a bit in my back that kinda goes in leaves a groove down my back iyswim. The measuring bit should be easy but im not 100% sure I've got the correct measurements!

harmonyuk2005 Sat 29-Jun-13 15:06:14

Thank you Missbopeep smile I've worked out how you came to that measurement now using the guide thing! Am concerned a C cup will surely just be empty?? my dd is in a C cup and her boobs are like massive compared to mine? (I suspect all my elder dd's are wearing the wrong size and will get them all to have a measure to check!)

louisianablue2000 Sat 29-Jun-13 15:14:37

I love these threads, I had my own bra intervention a few years ago when I finally went to my local fabulous bra shop and (shock horror) discovered I wasn't actually a 36C! The woman who owns it says bras for larger breasts (I'm currently wearing a 32FF feeding bra and she has just ordered me a 30G and GG to try out because I'm still losing baby weight) need to be shaped very differently to those for smaller breasts (makes sense, no way does someone with small boobs have the same overall shape as large boobs). It's much easier for M&S to make one style with larger and larger backs and cups to meet their price points that to have different ranges for those with small or large boobs.

Completely agree that some women don't believe their true size though. My Mum (who always thought she was an A cup) was shocked to be put in a 32D by my bra lady. My sister refused to be fitted and says her M&S 36C fits her fine. This is a woman with a tiny tiny waist, no way does she have a 36 back.

SorrelForbes Sat 29-Jun-13 15:44:46

missbopeep On your measurements I would have said you'd need at least a 30E. I would expect a 30D to feel too tight as the cup would be too small. Have you tried a 30E in any styles?

SorrelForbes Sat 29-Jun-13 15:46:32

harmonyuk2005 I would suggest a 30D for starters. A C/D cup in a 30 back isn't large at all. A D just means a 4" difference between your under bust and across bust measurements. If your DD has large boobs and is wearing a C then I would guess she's also in the wrong size.

SorrelForbes Sat 29-Jun-13 15:47:53

louisianablue2000 I've had a similar battle with my DSis. She's been fitted at Bravissimo as a 28FF but just can't accept it!

harmonyuk2005 Sat 29-Jun-13 15:53:11

Your right about not many size 30 band's about, will keep hunting or should I just get a 32C, (more choice!) it seems there's more 30D cups but I really think that size would swamp me! Its a bit of a minefield and at 44 I cant believe I've been wearing the wrong size forever! and i'm really excited at the prospect of finding and ordering a good fitting bra smile

harmonyuk2005 Sat 29-Jun-13 15:55:14

crossposted with you Sorrel, you really think I should go for a D cup wow! im totally amazed! lots more choice tho! if your sure i'll start hunting all over thank you so much smile

harmonyuk2005 Sat 29-Jun-13 15:56:57

Just read your post properly! yes she is massive! all my dd's are bigger than me and two of them are wearing B cups I think! I've already text my eldest to tell her to get measuring smile wow this thread and this advice is just great!

SorrelForbes Sat 29-Jun-13 16:01:36

I would get them to 'scoop' and then marvel at the amount of boobage not fitting into those B cups!

Yes, definitely try a 30D (and maybe bigger dependant on style and make). A 32 will not give you the support and lift you want. Debenhams Gorgeous bras often come up very small in the back so a 32 in those might be ok but having said that I think they start at a DD cup.

When fitting a bra, it's often easier to recognise a cup that's too big than one that's too small. If I'm helping anyone find a bra, I usually get them one that's a cup bigger than they've measured and then work down from there. Typically though, the bigger cup fits or is even too small. Don't forget to scoop.

harmonyuk2005 Sat 29-Jun-13 16:05:12

Thank you Sorrel I've read about scooping smile just have to post what my dd text when I told her I got to try a 30D

"If you put on a d cup you might as well put your head in it and it might just fit! Rolf xx"

am going to send her links to the fitting guide and this thread!

harmonyuk2005 Sat 29-Jun-13 16:07:19

Could you also recommend me a good bra brand and the fit to try please Sorrel, need to order online so can't try before I buy, thank you for all your fabulous help smile

Wolfcub Sat 29-Jun-13 16:13:22

help me I need an intervention. in desperation I got measured in evans the other week becauae m and s are ao crap. the lady aaid I measured at a 38d but looked like I should buy a 38b depressingly assessing my empty boobs. I have 38b and c bras neither of which fit and a 36d which fita thw spaniel ears better but I can't breathe in.

I measue 37 under - snugly and 43 eound the longest saggiest but of boob when I lean forward. what should I go and try on. (I scoop religiously but mt migrating tissue prefers to be expat)

piprabbit Sat 29-Jun-13 16:17:33

Wolf - did you try on a 38D when you had your fitting?

AuntPepita Sat 29-Jun-13 16:19:41

36e for starters. Do no actual real life fitters sother than bravissimo and R&P understand bras and boobs at all?

SorrelForbes Sat 29-Jun-13 16:21:21

harmonyuk2005 This is problem, we are so conditioned by the media/celebs to think that a D is huge. It's really not big at all. A D on a 38 band is obviously going to be bigger in volume than a D on a 28 band. Once people grasp this everything starts making sense!

Brands I like include Ewa Michalak, Fauve, Debenhams Gorgeous, Bravissimo, Cleo and Masquerade (these last two are made by Panache). It depends so much on your shape though. I just can't get on with Freya, Fantasie or Panache (although I love their Idina balconette) but many people love these brands.

What shape are your boobs? Are they bottom or top heavy? Full or empty? Do you like a rounded shape? Lots of lift (cakes on a plate look)?

piprabbit Sat 29-Jun-13 16:22:37

Also - I had a massive trying on session in evans recently, tried on about 5 bras of the same style and none of them fitted even remotely (how is that even possible?). They were those weird bras with the preformed cup that stands up all on it's own.

In the end I went to M&S and bought some pretty 42Fs which fit surprisingly well.

SorrelForbes Sat 29-Jun-13 16:22:51

AuntPepita It doesn't seem like it! I've heard bad things about the fitting in Evans before so it doesn't surprise me.

Try a 36F too and you might want to consider a 34FF.

SorrelForbes Sat 29-Jun-13 16:24:44

A lot of people (me included) struggle with moulded bras. I own one (Freya Deco) but never really wear it as it gapes at the top of the cups. This type of bra doesn't mould to your own shape so it can be a struggle finding one that works.

The Cleo Juna and Panache Idina are both good, plain bras which come in nude, ideal for wearing under white tops.

harmonyuk2005 Sat 29-Jun-13 16:27:23

To me my boobs are pretty empty one is slightly smaller seems to go in a bit at the out side edge, bottom heavy but only slightly so, and quite round (have just been and looked!) I don't need them to look "bigger" iyswim so don't need a squished together and pushed up look, just something that will fit nice and not gape, I do like coverage of them but that might just be because in the wrong fit and style they don't look good! thank you for taking the time to help me (at 44 I feel awful I had no idea on my size)

missbopeep Sat 29-Jun-13 16:34:17


Thanks for the advice. I'm stuck with a good few bras just now but when I replace I'll try other sizes. I have tried some 30s and couldn't get them fastened. And there are not many makes that come in a 30.

I find makes vary so much- M&S can be small in their Autograph range, J Lewis seem on the large size ( back size) and Elle McPherson seems tiny- a 32 will barely fasten at the back.

I get quite annoyed when shop assts ask if I don't know my size as I take loads of sizes into the changing rooms- but every bra is different IMO.

SorrelForbes Sat 29-Jun-13 16:35:45

You are not alone, the majority of women are in the wrong size. It's very sad.

Have you got a Bravissimo near you or even a Debenhams, HoF or JL? You could go in and just try lots of styles (e.g. full cup, balconette, plunge) to see what you feel comfortable with.

All my bras are balconette which give me good lift and shape but don't push my boobs together in the middle.

SorrelForbes Sat 29-Jun-13 16:37:45

missbopeep Oh, I have to try at least three sizes in any bra I'm trying for the first time!

I measure 29.5" underneath and have never found a 30 (in my correct cup, GG) that is too tight. A 30F however would kill me! Do you try a new bra back to front first? I

SorrelForbes Sat 29-Jun-13 16:38:49

Freya, Cleo, Masquerade, Fantastie, Bravissimo, etc all do 30 backs. The high street (e.g. Top Shop, New Look) are rubbish and usually start at a 32 or 34.

blondiep14 Sat 29-Jun-13 16:40:42

Pre-children I always wore a 34A.

I have now had, and BFd 3 DC's.
Currently weaning DD off the boob so shall be back to be sorted soon.

hoping I won't be a 38AA

harmonyuk2005 Sat 29-Jun-13 16:45:50

No don't have any of those live in a little village and don't really get to go shopping I do 99% online i think i'd prefer to start with a proper fitting full cup bra smile (dd is convinced your having me on, and says i'll need a few socks!) thank you smile

harmonyuk2005 Sat 29-Jun-13 16:47:26

Cross posted, thank you i'll start with them brands then am sure i'll find something i like smile

SorrelForbes Sat 29-Jun-13 16:50:31

Have a look on BraStop and My Curves and Me for bargains!

SorrelForbes Sat 29-Jun-13 16:50:46

blondiep14 You definitely won't be an AA!

harmonyuk2005 Sat 29-Jun-13 16:54:25

Will do, thank you, and Debenhams have a sale on too so i'll have a look there too! I'll pop back with dd's sizes when i have them hope that's ok smile

harmonyuk2005 Sat 29-Jun-13 16:58:42

Another quick question having had a fleeting glance at the links, are you positive my boobs will stay put in a plunge bra (haven't managed to before!) thank you have seen a few i really like and will place an order today! smile

SorrelForbes Sat 29-Jun-13 17:01:54

I struggle with plunge styles as I always get overspill as my boobs don't like to stay in the cups!

Your boobs sound like my sister's and she has this plunge bra from Debenhams and also likes the Cleo Juna which is a balconette so don't discount any styles just yet.

I've not come across these threads before because style and beauty scares me any chance of doing me StatisticallyChallenged please?

43" under boobs, 54" hanging down -as they do even in bras nowadays blush. Currently wearing 42DD.

harmonyuk2005 Sat 29-Jun-13 17:07:07

Lovely thank you, have just opened up a balconette on the site link you gave, can also see a cleo juna on there which is lovely. Do you have an opinion on the lepel bra's as there's some pretty one's in sale too smile
(DD back now so going to chuck a tape measure at her!)

tootiredtothink start with a 42HH BUT be prepared to go down in the back from there. It's very common for slightly larger ladies to need a smaller back size (and therefore bigger cup size) than they technically measure in order to get enough support. The band needs to be sitting quite firmly to give enough support, plus the longer band can stretch further (in absolute terms) - so don't be scared to try maybe a 40J too, and work from there

SorrelForbes Sat 29-Jun-13 17:10:23

The Lepel Fiore is a nice bra but that's the only Lepel I've ever worn. The Lepel Constance is a nice plain full cup.

harmonyuk2005 Sat 29-Jun-13 17:19:22

Ok dd is measured and her measurements are underneath band is 32" and fullest part is 38" what size would she need please thank you smile

SorrelForbes Sat 29-Jun-13 17:20:30

Tell her to try a 32E for starters.

Brilliant, thank you smile

harmonyuk2005 Sat 29-Jun-13 17:26:38

Lovely thank you very much, we're both going to choose a nice new (hopefully fitting!) bra now, can't believe the difference in sizes! When my other dd reports back with her size i'll let you know, she's not sure she has a tape measure if not she can do it on her next visit home in a couple of weeks smile

Mmmnotsure Sat 29-Jun-13 17:26:49

Can I ask?

I hardly ever wear a bra, partly because I feel so uncomfortable in them.

I have just measured, and am 36.5 inches underneath and 42 inches hanging down. What do you think I should be?

I have always worn a 36a. Last time I tried to buy a bra I went into a specialist shop and got a woman who basically said your boobs are too small for anything we have - which still makes me feel embarrassed.

What to do?

MMMnotsure - no wonder you hate bras, and that woman in the bra shop should be shot

You are more like a 36E. Try popping on your 36A and doing the scooping described above, and see what happens

Mmmnotsure Sat 29-Jun-13 17:45:21

Thank you for replying.

Goodness. I would never think the letter 'E' would have anything to do with me when it comes to bras!

I'm now at the age when I really don't think I can get away with going braless under t-shirts, no matter how small my boobs are.

(Please shoot her for me if you like.) In the meantime I will read back on this thread about scooping and find an old bra.

mmmnotsure, I'm wondering if you are someone who has quite wide boobs (so they go quite far round and don't have much forward projection?)

Mine are a bit like that, so people would never tend to guess they are the size the actually are. It's only when you put a bra on and scoop them that you suddenly see how much boob there actually is

sub17 Sat 29-Jun-13 17:47:45

Currently wearing a 34A but just measured, am 30.5 underneath and 36 across, anyone have any ideas with what i should try?

sub17 - prepare to faint, then try a 30E to start with smile

sub17 Sat 29-Jun-13 17:52:56

aghhgghh.... thanks!!

Wolfcub Sat 29-Jun-13 18:39:55

sorry I had a little sleep. Thank you for the sizing, will order some to try on.

I didn't try on the 38d in evans because the lady was so disparaging about the empty boobs!

MaybeBentley Sat 29-Jun-13 18:56:21

Another person asking the experts. Having spent years as a 32AA/AAA I was overjoyed when I finally reached 34A, over the last few years I've put on weight and moved to a 36B (extra fat around ribs and upper stomach rather than too much else where!
But .. just measured and I'm 33" v snuggly underbust and 39.5" leaning forwards. Am I 32/34D?

OK, for all of those who are scared of D / DD / E cup sizes, I have put a picture on my profile for a limited time. I wear a size 12 and a 30E bra. As you can see from the pic of me in the purple top, I really don't have huge boobs! That's because a 30E is about the same size as a 36C, but on a smaller frame.

Limelight Sat 29-Jun-13 19:09:04

I love a bra thread smile I got 'Sorrelled' a while ago and went from a 38C to a 34E! And I thought I was going to need to go bigger.

33 39.5...try a 32f\ff and a 34 e/f to start

Wolfcub Sat 29-Jun-13 19:11:16

Well ladies I'm convinced - I just dug around in my drawer and found an old bravissimo 36d - the band fits, snug but I can breathe better than in the 36c wonderbra and I've scooped and the cups runneth over - a trip to the bra emporium is in order

Maybe Bra alphabet as follows A,B,C,D,DD (5) E, F, G, GG, H (10)
So in a 32 back, you have a 7" different => 32F, or in a 34 back there is a 5.5" difference = 34DD/E. I would try 32E/F and 34DD/E.

travelin...Most UK brands have ff too so gg is the 10th cup size smile

absentmindeddooooodles Sat 29-Jun-13 19:15:21

Sorry to jump in. I've just measured. Between 28 and 29 underneath and 33 round the boobs. Marks and Sparks got me in a 34 Aa. Is this wrong? Am despairing at all the confusing braness!!!! X

absent start with a 28d and work from there

MaybeBentley Sat 29-Jun-13 19:16:06

Blimey! 32E/F or 34DD/E! I'll have a trying on session when I go into town later in the week.

Thanks TravelinColour! I've spent most of life thinking I have no boobs because of the bra size I wear!

Ooops! Thanks SC Useful to know where 5 and 10 are not counting on fingers at all, oh no

MaybeBentley Sat 29-Jun-13 19:18:43

And thanks to Statistically! Sorry missed your reply as I went straight to last page.

absentmindeddooooodles Sat 29-Jun-13 19:19:28

Yaaaaayyyy!!! I shall go Bra shopping tomorrow. With a massive smile on my face as I sail past the children's section! Haha

I do the same, I know instantly where 5 (dd), 10 (gg) and 15 (k) are and work from there!

ExcuseTypos Sat 29-Jun-13 19:23:58

Can I just say a huge thank you to the Bra Ladies flowers

I was on a previous thread and had been wearing a 34 DD but I never felt comfortable. After giving my measurements, which I now can't remember, I was adviced to try a 30 FF. I thought you must be absolutley madgrin

Next time I was in John Lewis the bra advisor recommended panache bras. I tried on a 30FF and oh my word!! I have never felt so comfy with a bra on and im 47. Thank you very much.

People also keep commenting on my amazing, pert bosoms.

And I rather like it!!

Katz Sat 29-Jun-13 19:30:28

Ok. I thought I was wearing the correct size, 32g but just checking. Undneath 32 around 43. Have put some weight on and bras not fitting right

sounds like you need some extra cup space katz, ,try scooping to confirm but start by trying a 32h

DharmaLovesDraco Sat 29-Jun-13 19:36:50

When you talk about measuring the widest part when you are leaning forward, are you supposed to be at a 45 or 90 degree angle?

If I bend forward at 45 I measure 30 under boob and 36 widest boob
Measuring at 90 degrees makes me 30 and 38 hmm I wear a 32 c or 34 b

Katz Sat 29-Jun-13 19:37:15

Thanks, need new bras as current ones aphave gone saggy and limp!

dharma as close to 90 as possible so try a 30ff

DharmaLovesDraco Sat 29-Jun-13 19:45:34

Which (and having read the thread I know is not necessarily the case) sounds massive and I'm tiny in the boob department - when I lean forward it's all just basically empty saggy skin

I will try one though, off to look online

And thank you !!

Velve Sat 29-Jun-13 19:46:42

Ladies!! My beloved Cleo Marcie is getting a bit stretched.
I measure 29" at the moment around my ribcage (actively trying to lose weight). Please tell me which brands have tight fitting bands and which ones are a bit looser, if you know. I just don't want to order an enormous amount of bras to try on, really, and would rather know whether to go for a 28 or a 30.

Also I have slightly close fitting boobs so Cleo and Panache are actually quite painful sometimes with their wide gore. How wide is the centre gore in Bravissimo bras?

velve bravissimo bras vary massively, they're totally different to most bras in that they have designed bras for lots of different shapes so they have different widths, depths, gores etc. How do you do with plunges?

Size me please
33 underneath and 41 at fullest point.
I'm in a 34 dd at the mo, but it is not right.

Teleaddict Sat 29-Jun-13 19:59:20

Hi, can I ask for advice too! Currently pregnant but pre preg always been measured at Mand S as a 36 AA. However, I have never ever found a bra that I feel fits, is comfy or looks remotely nice!
I have just measured and I am 35" under and 39" round - does this mean I should be wearing a 36D?
I am obviously clueless!!

coffee, 33 & 41 try 32g, 32ff, 34ff and 34f. 32 more likely

telly try 34d, 34dd, 36d and 36c. and ignore any no wires in pregnancy advice it's balls as long as your bra fits wires are fine

Teleaddict Sat 29-Jun-13 20:08:30

Thank you so much statistically, I have an excuse to go shopping and maybe find a bra that is not a plain t-shirt bra which is all you seem to be able to get in a AA cup! This could be life changing!

Mmmnotsure Sat 29-Jun-13 20:12:11

Statistically umm, wide boobs. When I lean forward there is a large gap - inches - between each boob. I guess this is not normal?blush

And I never thought I would be having this kind of conversation over t'internet with strangerssmile

Thank you statistically, will have a try of those.

glastonburywishIwerethere Sat 29-Jun-13 20:46:39

Statistically can I ask you what I should be wearing.

Measurement underneath is 34 and then 39 learning forward.

Anything to help give me a waist!

try a 34dd-what are you in just now?

Mmmnotsure Sat 29-Jun-13 20:53:25

Okay. I found an old bra.

Fitted quite tightly round my ribcage. But the middle bit at the front was sticking out away from the skin and there is no way I could get all my ?fat? ?boob? into the cups when I tried the scooping bit. It looked ridiculous.sad

Any suggestions what style of bra (wide norks, as you suggested, and carrying a bit too much fat) I should start with?

Thank you.

glastonburywishIwerethere Sat 29-Jun-13 20:57:51

Thanks Statistically I was just reading the fitting instructions on the blog. <Hides head was fitted in 36c last week>
But straps fall off my shoulders and boobs disappear under my arms not a good look!

FrugalFashionista Sat 29-Jun-13 21:03:21

Just wanted to say a 6-months post-intervention thank you thanks to Stats and Sorrel. I thought I was 36A/B, or something - currently wearing a DD cup. And haven't looked back!

Velve Sat 29-Jun-13 21:09:45

Thanks Stat, I do not suit plunges at all, it always end up all squishy and bulging. Balconette ones are the best for my shape.

mmmnot...The middle sitting away is a classic cup size too small indicator. I would suggest trying something with a wide cup and soft back...maybe a curvy Kate tease me entice fleurty or smoothie. All run small in cup so try upper size range. backs are loose.

LizTerrine Sat 29-Jun-13 21:12:56

Oh good god, can I join in? I suddenly realise how wrong I've got this...!

So, I'm measuring 36 around the ribcage, and 44 around the widest part. I'm currently wearing a manky old 38DD. How far out am I?!

LizTerrine Sat 29-Jun-13 21:13:32

PS, I am backfatorama... blush

Mmmnotsure Sat 29-Jun-13 21:15:23

a curvy Kate tease me entice fleurty or smoothie.

It's another language.

Thank you, Statistically - I'll have a look for these.

LizTerrine Sat 29-Jun-13 21:17:11

Oh, and I'm lopsided. Do we buy for the big boob or the small one?

Have just scooped shock

liz try a 36ff and search the thread for my post on scooping as it's v important for back fat. sorry on phone or would repost it

also read info on blog re asymmetry. ..thebetterbracampaign.blogspot.co.uk

LizTerrine Sat 29-Jun-13 21:28:55

A 36FF shock

Can anyone recommend a good nursing bra?

ShotgunNotDoingThePans Sat 29-Jun-13 21:41:02

Hi room for one more?
Currently wearing an old 32f but more usually 30g.
Measure 31 underneath, 40 dangling - which I think should be a 30g.

Trouble is, I've always liked having 'em hoiked up high and have gritted my teeth and suffered the shoulder pains and welts. I have mild scoliosis as well as a slightly bigger left boob, so all of the challenge is felt by the left shoulder and side of neck.

But now I'm 50 I just cba with the pain any more, so I loosen the left strap almost to the limit and just have the right tightened a tad. Of course now I look completely matronly which is depressing to say the least, but at least the pain has eased off a bit.

I'm wondering if there's a particular style I should try - or maybe try a 30gg? If it's true that a well-fitting bra shouldn't need tight syraps there must be something out there that would feel comfortable but not look like this?

Ilanthe Sat 29-Jun-13 22:04:07

Can I just say that Selfridges fit properly. They fitted me as a 30D. Soooo comfy. I've never measured round my bust but I am definitely 30 underbust. M&S put me in a 34A.

I have bra interventioned my mum who went from a 34AA to a far more respectable 32C.

Katz Sat 29-Jun-13 22:24:24

Bought a couple of 32h bras in the debenhams sale, will see if they fit better than the 32g ones. Less overflowing of cups I'm hoping.

CountryMama Sun 30-Jun-13 09:35:00

Will you help me please... i got a fitting at m&s a week ago and i am a 38 A apparently but i just measured myself now and i'm 34" under and 39" when I measure over my boobs hanging down. The other thing you need to know is I didn't develop in puberty and I have little/ no breast tissue. Just very large areola (sp?). Please help! I hate bra shopping.

SorrelForbes Sun 30-Jun-13 09:42:03

M&S you give me the rage! Stop fucking adding 4/5".


OK, CountryMama You need to start with a 34DD and similar sizes (e.g. 34D, 34E). Having said that, my DSis has a 5" difference between her two measurements but actually needs a FF cup.

CountryMama Sun 30-Jun-13 12:55:57

Thank you. I will try some on and get back to you. Thank you so much.

AuntFini Sun 30-Jun-13 18:26:16

Fancy helping me out? I'm wearing a 34c, as measured by la senza. previously m&s said 34b. I have little boobs.

I just measured 30/31 (didn't know how right to go) under boobs and then again didn't know how tight to go leaning over so that was 39/40. Bra-me!

SorrelForbes Sun 30-Jun-13 18:49:03

Bearing in mind that the under bust measurement should be tight and the across bust loose, I'd say try a 30GG.

TrixyPixie Sun 30-Jun-13 18:52:33

Ok, deep breath, 38, 45. shock

Please work your magic bra ladies. smile

EMUZ Sun 30-Jun-13 18:59:08

Trixy - try a 38F to start

AuntFini Sun 30-Jun-13 19:26:26

30gg.... <faints>

louisianablue2000 Sun 30-Jun-13 20:03:56

Lizterrine I've alway worn Freya BFing bras and they've bben very comfortable and they have some sexier designs like www.bravissimo.com/products/lingerie/nursing-bras/rosie-nursing-bra/black-fuchsia/fy109bfu/. The matching shorts do a good job of minimising my 'I've had three children' belly.

louisianablue2000 Sun 30-Jun-13 20:06:36

Guess who has been on the Rioja

been not bben and here's the link

TrixyPixie Sun 30-Jun-13 20:17:49

F! Wow. Thank you. smile

SpaceLInvader Sun 30-Jun-13 20:26:04

I'm 37 around and 42 when leaning forward. Currently wear a 38A, is this right or should I try something different!

EMUZ Sun 30-Jun-13 20:34:19

Space - try a 38D and a 36DD. You may find a 36 better

EMUZ Sun 30-Jun-13 20:35:02

I'd also try a 36E and a 38DD

I was Bravissimo-ed a couple of years ago, but tbh wasn't hugely impressed - they sized me pretty well, but weren't very helpful with styles to suit. So I'm turning to MN after some [ahem] weight changes wink

37 ribcage, 48 dangling - what does that make me? I have a 36FF which isn't too bad, but even though I scoop like a madwoman, it all slides back round to the side, so I'm thinking the Curvey Kate recommended further down for wide boobs would be a good starting point.

SpaceLInvader Sun 30-Jun-13 20:39:02

Wow! Thanks EMUZ!

SorrelForbes Sun 30-Jun-13 20:39:05

Hmmm, I'd try a 36HH, 36H, 38H and a 38GG for starters. Your boobs are probably sliding back as the cups are too small and the back (possibly) too big.

SorrelForbes Sun 30-Jun-13 20:41:17

Sorry that was for Ishall. Just noticed you are already wearing a 36 so ignore the 38 suggestions! Sounds like there's not enough room in the cup to hold everything. You may actually want to think about trying a 34?

thanks Sorrel - I'll have to go shopping I think grin. A 34 back is probably too tight at the moment, even with bigger cups as there is also some a lot of excess flesh as well as migrating boobage so I'll start with the 36es.

BustyDeLaGhetto Sun 30-Jun-13 20:48:15

This thread is blowing my MIND. Have just measured. I wear 36A but I measure 35 and 38 around boobs. They are far apart though, like fish eyes sad

Busty, try a 34C, 34D, 36C and 36B. And lots of scooping.

Ishall, do not rule out 34s because of backfat as with scooping a well fitted bra makes it better not worse. My backfat is worse in the size above than in the correct size - photographic evidence upthread.

BustyDeLaGhetto Sun 30-Jun-13 20:53:16

Dude, thank you. * INTERVENTION FACE *

PoppyWearer Sun 30-Jun-13 20:53:49

Another one here just had my eyes opened. My measurements after bf'ing two DCs are 33 and 38. Very saggy and far apart!

I also thought I was a 38A blushblush

Poppywearer, try a 32DD, 32E, 34DD and 34D. The smaller band will give you so much more support.

totiredtosleep Sun 30-Jun-13 21:21:25

From reading this thread I'm guessing i'm wearing completely the wrong size! Currently wearing a 34DD

Measure 30 under and 37" over, does that mean I should wear a 30F?

Wahtawah Sun 30-Jun-13 21:26:11

Interesting thread!

I'm currently wearing 36A. Measure 33 under and 37 over. Am I right that I should consider 34C?

GinOnTwoWheels Sun 30-Jun-13 21:26:36

What puzzles me is the huge disparity between women's actual measurements and sizing needs and what is available in the shops.

I would say I am medium build with medium boobs - I am 5 foot 7 but quite fine boned but in no way petite and I am a 30 or 32 back size and probably something around an E/F cup. The Bravissimo lady described me as 'having a narrow back'.

There are plenty of women with much smaller build than me, as are some with larger bones/ribcage. Equally there are plenty of women with larger or smaller boobs than me. Like I said, I am probably as average/medium as they come.

But when I look in the shops, the vast majority of bras start at back size 34, with a few 32s and hardly any 30s and below - where do all those tiny tiny petite slim women (5'2, size 6-8) buy their bras - their back size must be 28 at most and yet I've never seen this size anywhere?

And for those ladies with much bigger breasts than me - why is it so surprising if they are a G/H/J cup - if I am medium at E/F cup, it follows that there will be bigger sizes than this.

totired, yes start with 30F, wahtawah...try a 32FF, 32D, 34D and 34C. Don't be scared of the small back or the big cups

Ginontwowheels....the way most shops are fitting is a HUGE part of the problem. The whole insisting on adding 4-5" that most retailers do means that the true 28s are getting stuck in 34s, the 30s in 36s etc and in much smaller cups as a result. I went for a trial fitting at M&S, and as a 30HH/J they stuck me in a 36F. It was awful. This was the end of the day and I caught sight of their fitting sheet, and they had not fitted anyone at less than a 34 all day

SorrelForbes Sun 30-Jun-13 21:31:10

where do all those tiny tiny petite slim women (5'2, size 6-8) buy their bras They buy bras at Top Shop, M&S, etc, in a 36A as that's what they've been fitted as. It's so depressing.*

New Look and BHS stock Curvy Kate FFS but only from a 32 band up!

So true gin. I am definitely 'medium sized' 12-14, 5'6. And I need a 30 back bra. I don't think my back is especially narrow, I expect some women should actually be wearing a 24, but they just don't make them.

I'm on the M-L end of the scale (size 14ish but can easily be a 16 in trousers) and I'm a firm 30. I own 2 32 back bras in total, and I own a lot of bras.

EMUZ Sun 30-Jun-13 21:43:14

I am a solid hourglass, broad shoulders with huge wrists/feet etc and a size 16. Even I wear a 32 or 34 band

And the chest measurement for a standard size 8 is around 33 inches, so there's no way the measurement underneath the bust can be 34!

HuevosRancheros Sun 30-Jun-13 21:51:36

Please help me!
I am currently wearing a 38B
Just measured as you advised, and am 36 under bust and 41/42 around bust

What would you advise?

Thanks smile

Start with a 36DD/E HuevosRancheros

EMUZ Sun 30-Jun-13 21:57:05

And then people go "but you can't be a 32?!" When they are a size 8 and wearing a 38...

PoppyWearer Sun 30-Jun-13 22:07:58

Thank you Stats! thanksthanks

DuPainDuVinDuFromage Sun 30-Jun-13 22:24:06

Hi lovely bra ladies! I have a question. Presumably, if one boob is bigger than the other, the cup size should be a bit more generous than the measurements would suggest, as they need to fit the bigger boob properly and leave a bit of space in the other cup? So a 30E measurement could actually require an F cup? My slightly bigger side always feels uncomfortable and I think I might need to go shopping (any excuse! grin)

DuPainDuVinDuFromage Sun 30-Jun-13 22:30:10

And while I'm here, can I check what I should be wearing? I have changed shape lots since having dd 9 months ago, and I am pretty sure I am fatter than when I was last measured (sad really must start that diet!) and my boobs might be smaller too...

I've just measured and I am 31 and 36.

SorrelForbes Sun 30-Jun-13 22:35:01

DuPainDuVinDuFromage There's some excellent info here about fitting breasts of different sizes.

Size wise, try a 30E, 30DD, 32DD and 32D for starters.

GypsyFloss Sun 30-Jun-13 22:41:20

I bloody love these bra interventions...I spend hours telling any poor sap who will listen about bra sizing grin thanks to all the wonderful advice on here.It has done wonders for my teen Dd's confidence too , to be in a decent bra that gives her some cleavage.

LaydeeJayne Sun 30-Jun-13 22:49:33

Wow this thread is a revelation! So today I have been wearing a 36c. I get out the tape measure after reading this and measure myself to be a 30 band and 36 round the cup. Does that equal a 30e? Really?! I thought I had fairly small boobs! Please can someone confirm - I want to go shopping!

DuPainDuVinDuFromage Sun 30-Jun-13 22:52:27

Thanks Sorrell!

ouryve Sun 30-Jun-13 22:57:17

These bra interventions always cost me a fortune. I've lost a bit of weight, recently, and my lovely 34F Fantasie whateveritis has become really saggy on me. I've ordered some assorted 32FFs in the Figleaves sale to try on.

Oh - and with my 32 back, I'm dumpy size 14.

And I just measured DH to illustrate how ridiculous the existence of AA cups is (what on earth would there be to support?) 34.5 and 38. I think I have a 34D, upstairs, somewhere grin (Admittedly, he has a very triangular back, so probably would be more comfortable in a 36B!

ouryve Sun 30-Jun-13 22:58:49

You've got it right, LaydeeJayne

harmonyuk2005 Tue 02-Jul-13 12:53:35

New bra's arrived today, both myself and dd went for the cleo juna. Dd not back from school to try her's yet. I've tried mine on, did the band test first, that was fine. The put it on in the way described on the link, leaning forward did band up scooped! On standing the first thing I noticed (other than the total amazement that it didn't need filling with socks, thanks dd!) was that under my arm bulges out, both sides but one a bit more than the other, (what I consider my smaller boob) and secondly the top of the bra where that lacy bit is, is kinda crinkled so not sitting smoothly against me iyswim. Other than that I was amazed! The actual cups seemed ok? So where do I go from here, I haven't kept it on as I suspect your gonna advise me to try.... (mine was a 30D and I have dd's 32E upstairs?) thank you hugely smile

SorrelForbes Tue 02-Jul-13 13:01:54

Ok, the lace on the Cleo Juna can be problematic. Mine wrinkles on a 30GG but the 30G is definitely too small. I just tuck it in! You can alter lace on a bra as per this blog post.

Under arm bulge suggests that the cup may still be too small. Scoop again and then put a close fitting t-shirt/top on and stand sideways to a mirror. Is there any overspill at all?

harmonyuk2005 Tue 02-Jul-13 13:04:52

Thank you sorrel will pop and try now and report back smile

harmonyuk2005 Tue 02-Jul-13 13:14:08

Am back! ok did all that, put one off dd's tight fitting tops on as it was to hand (don't know if makes a difference I wear a 10 dd an 8) there is a definite bulge under the arm it appears more towards the back of the underarm tho with a top on? Its still 100% on my current 34a cup tho smile thank you so much for helping

Just jumping in as a smug, I-know-my-bra-size-perfectly-well-thank-you-very-much 34G wearer...however I thought I'd just confirm my smugness by measuring myself according to the blog posted up thread...

...and here I am, proudly encased in my new 34JJ bra, my back fat consigned to history and not so smug now grin

<topples over>

Tortoiseonthehalfshell Tue 02-Jul-13 13:25:48

TooMany, nooooo. I have been reading these threads all smug because I know my size. I am a 32GG. I can't possibly be smaller back/bigger cup than that. Can I? CAN I?

SorrelForbes Tue 02-Jul-13 13:26:49

harmonyuk2005 Can you try and drag that bulge round to the front and into the cup at all?

TooManyButtons Fantastic grin

SorrelForbes Tue 02-Jul-13 13:27:37

Tortoiseonthehalfshell Possibly, but tbh a 32GG is usually a size of someone who has been properly fitted!

Tortoise Get that tape measure out!

harmonyuk2005 Tue 02-Jul-13 13:37:52

ok have scooped and dragged and kinda swooped! so so much! but its not making much difference, side view is ok I think? maybe a weeny bit at the back but not really noticeable at all but then my arm is down so can't really see the under bit? but it definitely goes out quite a bit from front view, if it helps I have sticky out ribs not much meat on the top of my body? haven't adjusted the straps at all? the band is tight but not uncomfortably so.

SorrelForbes Tue 02-Jul-13 13:40:46

Any bulge over the top or side of the cup at all? If not, then I'd say that the bra fits but just might not be the perfect style for you. Something with a higher side might be worth trying. I get a little bit of side bulge with some bras but if I keep moving no one notices grin

harmonyuk2005 Tue 02-Jul-13 13:59:31

Lol thank you Sorrel smile no bulge at the top. It feels like it fits, the bit in the middle of the cups is sitting against my skin (don't think a bra has ever done that!) i'm definitely going to have a red band on my skin when I take it off, guessing that's normal? and I can 'feel' i'm wearing a bra. under my left arm feels a bit uncomfy where the wire ends I think almost like there's a bruise under it. I guess its just getting used to it. On the whole I absolutely love it! Can you recommend anything else please. You've been fantastic helping us so big thank you and i'll report back later when dd has tried hers on

hmmm ...I am wondering if you should try up a cup too just to be sure. It could just be a style issue but it may also be that you are someone who gets armpit tits rather than central or over the top quad at least in some bras. This is what tends to happen to me in balconettes or half cups where the cup isn't right. I'd maybe try the d and dd in a plunge and balcony too

Tortoiseonthehalfshell Tue 02-Jul-13 14:13:08

Okay, so I'm 28 inches under bust and <winces> 38.5 around the biggest longest part. So am I right?

And a question for other big busted women - I cannot find an underwired bra that doesn't dig in under my arms. I'm not skinny, but I'm not fat, so is this a fitting issue or an inevitable result of being a monstrous freak?

SorrelForbes Tue 02-Jul-13 14:17:48

Tortoiseonthehalfshell On those measurements I'd suggest a 28H. However, that is actually smaller in cup volume that your current 32GGs. If you scoop whilst wearing one of those, any bulge/overspill?

harmony Stats has a good point there. Try a DD (you could also try DD's 32E but on the tightest hook which would give you a rough idea!)

harmonyuk2005 Tue 02-Jul-13 14:18:29

Thank you statistically I've tried boost/plunge/squash together type's before and my boobs don't stay put tho that's probably down to the wrong size being worn! but it makes me a bit scared to try a plunge. Will look at balcony tho. I'd love a bra that was full cup (don't think any I've got cover my boobs so am eager to see with the new size if they actually do!) any brand or particular bra you could recommend please and shall I stick with the d cup? can't really afford to order both size atm, esp as both myself and dd had to have matching pants smile thank you again

harmonyuk2005 Tue 02-Jul-13 14:19:27

cross posted with you Sorrel, will pop and try dd's on before she's home smile

harmonyuk2005 Tue 02-Jul-13 14:33:36

Tried dd's 32e on, on tightest fit, still have some bulge at side, cups too big as well, tho i'm surprised they weren't more so. also realised I had mine done up on tightest setting (years of wearing like this must remember!) so no more pain where wire ends on that side and possibly a little less bulging, but still some, don't have time to examine more thoroughly with the t shirt test. off to pick lo up from playgroup smile

Tortoiseonthehalfshell Tue 02-Jul-13 14:41:03

Thanks, Sorrell, that might work actually - some of mine are loose in the cup since losing a bit of weight. Maybe I'll try a 30GG and see how I go - i have to order from Bravissimo and I'm overseas so it's expensive if I get it wrong. Reluctant to stray too far!

SorrelForbes Tue 02-Jul-13 14:46:07

Honestly Tortoiseonthehalfshell try a 28 back, you'll be surprised. I measure 29.5" under bust and wear a 30 and some of my bras are fairly loose!

Try Brastop as they often do free international delivery.

harmonyuk2005 Tue 02-Jul-13 16:11:27

hi am back! for me with the fitted t shirt still bulging at side. Shall I try a dd cup or find another style? am just worried it'll be huge? as this cup fits.

DD has tried hers on, she says it fits great, feels comfy no bulging anywhere but!!! I think the band is too big even tho she's adamant its not (because she doesn't want me to send it back!) so can someone tell me exactly about the two finger thing because I can move it away from her skin with ease and put lots of fingers under? To me it doesn't fit as snug as mine does? Thank you smile

ps dd is now saying the cup feels small? I think its the style of bra tbh? it doesn't visually look too small?

DharmaLovesDraco Tue 02-Jul-13 16:21:16

My bras didn't fit at all sad far too big in the cup - I think my boobs only hang so low because they are empty loose saggy skin.

In think I'm going to go to wait until I'm in London in September and go to Rigby and Pellar, if I've been wearing the wrong size for the last 20 odd years I guess a few more months wont hurt

SorrelForbes Tue 02-Jul-13 16:31:41

harmonyuk2005 That does sound as if the band might be too big for her. I'd suggest a 30F or possibly a 30FF. If the cup feels small then it probably is. Get her to scoop again and have a look at the cups from side on. I think you should try a 30DD, possibly a 30E too. It's a pain I know but it's the only way to get it right! If you want another bra that gives more coverage, another of my favourites is the Panache Idina. It's a balconette style but it comes up a bit higher on the cup than the Juna.

SorrelForbes Tue 02-Jul-13 16:32:22

DharmaLovesDraco Did you scoop? Which bras in which sizes did you try? Did some fit better than others?

harmonyuk2005 Tue 02-Jul-13 16:39:49

will read your advice in a min, before I forget! have just measured dd2 and her measurements are 32 band and 37 biggest bit could you size her for me please smile thank you

DharmaLovesDraco Tue 02-Jul-13 16:43:21

Honest to god I scooped, one was a Cleo by Panache -Juno and the other was a Gortex Amy. I just couldn't fill it at all. I have just re-measured whilst looking at the guide and tbh I think I'm more of a 30 by 36 not 38 as previously thought - so should I try an E cup?

Thanks for your help on this

SorrelForbes Tue 02-Jul-13 16:44:26

On those measurement a 32DD but that is only a starting point. Can you get her to try your 30 on back to front to see how the band fits? If it seems better than the 32 then I'd order her a 30FF. Make sure she scoops right round from the back.

SorrelForbes Tue 02-Jul-13 16:47:21

DharmaLovesDraco Yes, try a 30E. Were the cups baggy all over or just at the top? Cleo Juna and Playtex Amy? Not sure a Gortex bra would be that comfy wink

SorrelForbes Tue 02-Jul-13 16:48:51

Ah sorry, Amy by Gorteks! blush

DharmaLovesDraco Tue 02-Jul-13 16:57:47

<snort> comfy no but waterproof and durable yes ;) I blame autocorrect

I will order some more. I also have to say that Bra Stop are brilliant service wise so thanks to whoever recommended them. Thanks Sorrel for your help x

harmonyuk2005 Tue 02-Jul-13 17:17:31

ok! dd2 has tried my 30 on and the band is good but lots of underarm bulge so is it a 30ff or a 30f as the difference is 7?

i'm really confusing myself here! dd3 (she's the 32e) my 30 band is ok on her too so I will return hers and exchange for a different size, looking at her in the 32e from the side looked ok, she scooped! shall I go for the f cup? her boobs are round and full, oh another thing I don't think the middle bit of the 32 was sitting flat to her chest, suggesting the band is too big? she didn't feel like it was big enough or covering her very well, so maybe the idina for her too.

will check out the idina in a 30dd thank you for all your help it really is much appreciated (it'll just be dd1 to get sized when she lets me have her measurements! smile that is until dd4 and 5 get older lol! )

<wails> just measured.. 30" bottom and 42" boobs.. I am still bf so need access, what size do you think? Does it exist? confused

start with 30hh and I promise I
it exists cos I an wearing one grin

SorrelForbes Tue 02-Jul-13 17:29:37

harmonyuk2005 OK if DD2 has a 7" gap start with a 30F (and perhaps order a 30FF too). For DD3, if the centre isn't sitting flat then it's almost definitely because the cup is too small. Order her the 30FF too as a 30F is the same cup volume as a 32E.

Frustrating I know!

PurpleWithaBlueBun Try a 30HH

harmonyuk2005 Tue 02-Jul-13 18:31:48

Thank you sorrel smile long day! dd3's boobs are def bigger than dd2's so i'll go with the 30ff for dd3 which dd2 can try but as she's an independent she'll be buying her own anyway smile even tho she's in denial insists her 32C is fine and there's no way i'm a d cup cos that's huge! oh deary me she's just not "getting it". Thank you so much for your help

Wolfcub Tue 02-Jul-13 20:27:36

ok I've been wearing the 36d that I had for a day or two. it is comfy but it still isn't the right size as I have some overspill. I may get the chance to bra shop tomorrow but I need guidance. I have very significant boob tissue in my armpit sad what makes/brands should I look for that come high up under the armpit to try and get a smoother line and encourage it back where it belongs

For forward encouragement a balconette probably isn't best - probably something a bit fuller like a balcony or full cup. Some plunges are also quite high under the arm. There is an element of trial and error to it - I have lots of armpit tit and need something which is wide and high enough to contain, but there is a fine line between this and rubbing.

TwoNoisyBoys Tue 02-Jul-13 22:56:32

Could someone help me, please? My under boob measurement is 33, and my boob measurement is 41.........I can't work it out? I'm currently wearing a 36D..........Thank you! smile

EMUZ Tue 02-Jul-13 22:59:56

Try a 32G, 34FF for starters. If they don't do an FF try a 34G as well

TwoNoisyBoys Tue 02-Jul-13 23:04:57

Thank you! I kind of worked out that it MIGHT be that, but thought it sounded too ridiculous, going from a D to a G/FF cup........but perhaps not! It would explain why every sodding bra I have is so uncomfy! Thanks again EMUZ smile

harmonyuk2005 Wed 03-Jul-13 20:20:32

hi me again! (sorry) dd3's ff cup ordered will update when its here and been tried. so I've been wearing mine for a good day now and have shortened the straps which gives a much comfier fit esp under the underarm area but still lots of bulging out there, i'm also wondering if there's a weeny bit of bulging at the back too now I've shortened the straps by the underarm not central or rolls it just looks like its from the underarms. Can I just ask if you have an opinion on the panache harmony for me to try in the dd cup to see if the fit is better, as they are very cheap on ebay at the minute smile thank you

link to the harmony

SorrelForbes Wed 03-Jul-13 21:14:15

I've a friend who loves the Panache Harmony. If it's cheap then it might be worth a shot!

TrixyPixie Fri 12-Jul-13 21:49:26

You are amazing. I think I fit a 38e more than an f, but the 'tucking' thing means I look much slimmer. So many less lumps and much better bumps. grin

Thank you! smile

FrameyMcFrame Fri 12-Jul-13 22:31:51

33 39
Hi sorry to hijack but can I ask the experts a question?
I did the measure thing and it was 33 and 39.
So I went to John Lewis and tried on lots of bras in 32 f and 34f. Also 34E. Only 2 out of about 20 fitted me sad
Am I wierd?
Anyway bought the 2 and I'm having to wear them on the tightest fit.
But 32 was too tight and caused back fat and quad boob.
Thanks in advance and sorry to hijack .....

Did you scoop in the 32s?

Oh hang on, just saw quad boob - the 32 was probably too small in the cup which would have prevented scooping working. Did you try a bigger cup?

With regards to only a few fitting - yup, completely normal!

FrameyMcFrame Sat 13-Jul-13 21:47:11

Thanks StatisticallyChallenged.
So should I try 32G? Crikey, do they make that size?

SorrelForbes Sat 13-Jul-13 22:09:52

Oh yes indeed! I'm a 30GG grin.

TomskiGirl Tue 26-Nov-13 23:07:24

So happy I found this thread was beginning to think I was a total freak! Gonna try all the advice and see what happens :-)

TomskiGirl Wed 27-Nov-13 09:30:13

So I've measured and I'm 32 and 37 is that 32DD?

SorrelForbes Wed 27-Nov-13 10:11:42

Yep start there but be prepared to try bigger cups. Make sure you get the band right before sitting the cups.


Indeed it is so start there

TomskiGirl Wed 27-Nov-13 16:03:21

Blimey it's going to be weird, I was always looking at 36A's and even went on websites that suggested I was 38AAA...thanks for the link and help :-)

TomskiGirl Wed 27-Nov-13 18:11:50

So in my excitement I popped to Sainsburys (who don't do 32DD I discovered) but I had a faff about with various sizes and 32 is the way forward. The 32D was pretty good (wow, never thought I'd say that!) but I'm going to wait until I can try a 32DD! Finally there is hope that I can buy bras that I like and that match knickers and (dare I say it) actually fit!! I was beginning to think that surgery was the only way I could get a bra to fit! Thank you so much for this fab thread!!

smile excellent news! Caution you may now become addicted to bras!

TomskiGirl Wed 27-Nov-13 19:22:47

I think you might be right, I'm already planning a shopping trip and checking out all the lovely bras online :-)

Whereisegg Wed 27-Nov-13 21:59:43

ok so I just measured too.
wearing 34a, but measuring 30/34.

is that 30d?
it can't be grin

SorrelForbes Thu 28-Nov-13 00:41:47

It can! The cup volume on a 34A is equivalent to a 30C. If you scoop when wearing your 34A do you get overspill/quad boob/under arm bulge/back fat?

Whereisegg Thu 28-Nov-13 07:16:51

well yes but only for a minute as then everything just kind of 'settles' back.
so I've been wearing those molded t-shirt bras everyone on here is such a fan of wink

I seriously don't want to go to work today, I want to spend my day surrounded by bras.
In a D cup shock

everything settles back because the band is too big so your breast tissue slides out the side! once you are in a smaller band that will stay where it belongs. remember to get the band size right first by following the guidance on the blog then work on the cup. and don't be scared to try bigger cups if needed

Whereisegg Thu 28-Nov-13 07:42:57

bigger than a D grin
guess what I will be asking for for Christmas!

Dolallytats Thu 28-Nov-13 08:01:46

Please can you help me SC!! I had my DD just over 4 months ago. I have always been big-a size 16 0n average (am 5'2) but have gone up to a size 18/20 due to stress (DH had a, thankfully minor, stroke a few weeks ago and, of course the usual 'new baby' stresses!! I'm also agoraphobic and this is stressful) and waaaaayyy too much cake and chocolate!!

I currently own one bra that doesn't fit at all but is the comfiest non fitting bra I own blush. Please help me get a proper fitting bra!!

I measured as you said in the beginning and I am 41.5 under bust and leaning forward (do you mean just a bit because that is what I did, or go you mean a full 'look at the floor job?!?) and I measured 48. Just for further info, my boobs are like spaniel ears!! They have next to no roundness, sag terribly and there is a fairly large gap between them so I don't think I have ever had a lovely looking cleavage!!

Now, having just made myself sound truly vile, can you please recommend a bra size?? I did get measured at R&P years ago, but I have since had 2 more children, put on loads of weight and become too scared to go far from my house!!

Sorry for the essay-just wanted to give you an accurate picture of my boobs!!

Dolallytats Thu 28-Nov-13 08:07:12

Just saw the blog and remeasured!! Bending over I am 48.5!!

CelticPromise Thu 28-Nov-13 10:19:59

How have I missed this thread until now??

Dolally I would start with 40G or FF but I'mof practice! You may need to go down a back size to get a firm band, if your do don't forget to go Iowa in the cup. What size are you wearing?

Ok, so 41.5 under with 48.5 over. First thing you need to sort is the band size. I would suggest that you start with a 40. Reason for this is that if you have a slightly squishy torso then you often need a smaller band than you measure in order to get adequate support. You might even need to go to a 38. There is guidance on the blog explaining how to test if the band fits but basically you do it back to front so the cups don't get in tge the way. Now, cups. Again trial and error but I would start with a 40ff and g and work from there.

WitchOfEndor Thu 28-Nov-13 11:13:09

Lurked till now. I've been wearing 36DD (thanks to M&S) and knew that it just wasn't right. Went into John Lewis last week to get fitted and I'm now the proud owner of three 32F Fantasie bras. I feel gripped and supported for the first time in ages, I'm never going to M&S for bras again!

SorrelForbes Thu 28-Nov-13 11:39:24

Good morning bra ladies grin

Bue Thu 28-Nov-13 11:45:33

Since being reformed a couple of years ago (went from 34B to 30D, and there is really only a handful of boob there) I wonder why they actually make A cup size bras. Because I guarantee no flesh and blood woman is actually an A cup!!!

TessTackle Thu 28-Nov-13 11:51:52

I can't wait to do this!!

TessTackle Thu 28-Nov-13 12:51:05

35.5 and 42 can someone help??

Tess try a 34ff, 34f. 36f and 36e

TessTackle Thu 28-Nov-13 13:05:33

blush Gobsmacked! Will try and get to a shop tomorrow, any suggestions? Thank you!

CelticPromise Thu 28-Nov-13 13:25:53

Have you got a Debenhams nearby? They are prob your best bet. Or maybe John Lewis. Most of the high street is a washout I'm afraid.

TessTackle Thu 28-Nov-13 13:35:59

Debanhams it is!

HazleNutt Thu 28-Nov-13 14:22:42

I still don't get what is wrong with M&S. Why don't they listen to us? There are so, so many women just here who have stated that they have been wrongly fitted, but whenever someone tries to tell M&S that, the reply is that don't be silly, we know best.

Dolallytats Thu 28-Nov-13 15:00:18

Thanks Celticpromise and statisticallychallenged, am looking online at new bras now!!

Whereisegg Thu 28-Nov-13 16:34:55

so everyone saying Debenhams for bras...should I be looking at their own brand ones or those floozy ones?

TomskiGirl Thu 28-Nov-13 17:28:25

I had to go and experience the M&S bras myself today and they were horrible (compared to the Sainsbury ones I tried yesterday). I have ordered a bra online from Bra Stop to start with.
It's a trek for me to get to a Debenhams or John Lewis and I'm keen to start my awesome new bra collection!!! Which are the best online shops to buy from, including good delivery and returns as well as good bras?
I'm still gobsmacked I've spent my whole adult life feeling inadequate! Told my "flat chested" friend about this and she's getting the tape measure out tonight wink

Whereisegg is depends on the size you need but debenhams v stock lots of good d plus brands like Freya and fantasie. They have their own brand called gorgeous which is also ok but runs tight in the band. They also sell brands like wonderbra-I'm sized out now but their d-g t shirt bra is brilliant and I still wear the wonderbra ultimate strapless-sizing is wonky on it.

Whereisegg Thu 28-Nov-13 18:50:08

thankyou smile

Dolallytats Thu 28-Nov-13 19:04:59

Celtic I have been wearing a 38B, but the cup is molded (S?) and there are large gaps at top and upper sides-thought that meant I would have to go down to an A cup!!

blondiep14 Thu 28-Nov-13 19:26:44

Remembered this thread from a while back, DD is fully off the boob and I'm probably not going to get very mug slimmer anytime soon!

I have just measured 33cm under boobs, 38 on boob. No pressure on boob at all tho, is that right?

Currently wearing a balcony style from Next in 36A - it's not very comfy!! shockgrin

Help please?!

blondiep14 Thu 28-Nov-13 19:29:18

Should add, boobs round and tiny!

SorrelForbes Thu 28-Nov-13 20:41:28

Dolallytats Moulded bras are tricky things and just don't work for many people. They don't fit to your shape, hence the gaping.

SorrelForbes Thu 28-Nov-13 20:42:34

blondiep14 Try a 32E/DD and a 34D/DD. I suspect the 32 will be the best fit.

Blondie start with a 32E, 32DD, 34DD and 34D. The 32 is more likely

blondiep14 Thu 28-Nov-13 21:01:25

Seriously?? shockshock
I was brace and ordered a few B cups thinking perhaps an A was wrong, they were gaping and didn't fit at all!!

What sort if style is best for flat, round boobs?!

The B will be gaping because the back size is much too big, and scooping won't work as everything will just slide back out the side!

When you say flat, round boobs - can you explain!

blondiep14 Thu 28-Nov-13 21:21:13

That is a bit if a rubbish description isn't it?!
They're rounded, shape-wise, as opposed to oval I guess, but disappear when not in a bra or when I lie down.

I'm not sure I understand the scooping thing but I just tried to get all of one boob into the bra cup in and it just about covered my nipple so much was over the top - and the bra wasn't done up!

When i tried a 34B it seemed very tight on the band?

Ok, scooping 101 smile

Put the bra on. Now, bend forward, put your right hand inside the left cup, and reach as far back as you can (round under your armpit) and grab everything soft and yank it forward in to the cups. Sometimes easier to do this side on to a mirror. Repeat on other side.

Now, this won't stay put on your 36, but try it just to see....

the 34B, I suspect felt tight because you hadn't scooped, the cup isn't big enough and your boobs were stealing the back fabric!

blondiep14 Fri 29-Nov-13 09:30:26

Ok. The scooping produced quite hilarious results!

I'm off to order some new bras!

I shall be back.

lovelydogs Fri 29-Nov-13 09:34:00

Are there any bra ladies around this morning?? I've remeasured after some weight loss and could do with some advice as off to the shops today. I'm measuring 30ins under boobs and 35.5 around them when dangling. Where to start??!

lovelydogs Fri 29-Nov-13 09:34:43

Ah, forgot to say, currently wearing a 36A!

kittykarate Fri 29-Nov-13 09:39:11

Counting on my fingers I'm coming up with 30DD or 30E

I've been previously intervened, just popping back to ask if anyone's seen a 26G bra for sale anywhere.
Failing that, which 28s come up tight in the band.
I'm down to wearing either a Betsy Bow with wires coming out of the fabric, an M&S plunge which Gives me quad-boob as they escape to the middle, or a masquerade Delphi which is moulded and now so loose I can keep my keys in there!

lovelydogs Fri 29-Nov-13 10:00:06

thanks kitty I'll start there

Inmysparetime I have found the em bezyk to be quite tight-if I was ordering again I'd size up. The malinki is too as apparently is the new nina. I can't remember buthave yyou tried any of the debenhams gorgeous in a28? Lots of them run very small

PottedPlant Fri 29-Nov-13 11:41:40

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

HazleNutt Fri 29-Nov-13 11:56:14

Plant, I would go up as well, so 30F, 32E. It's easy to see if the bra is too big, but it's sometimes not so obvious when it's a size too small. And could try 28 backs as well, if you find any.

Whereisegg Fri 29-Nov-13 13:05:14

managed a quick detour to asda today.
nothing in a 30 back and was advised I was a 30d on here.
closest I could find was a 32c.

it was only too bloody small grin

Whereisegg Fri 29-Nov-13 13:05:43

oh, I've spent years in a 34a

SorrelForbes Fri 29-Nov-13 13:32:41

Whereisegg Was the 32C too small in the cup? That's the same cup volume as a 34B so your 34As must really be too small (especially of you scoop!)?

I'd try a 30DD and upwards grin

PottedPlant Fri 29-Nov-13 14:00:16

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Whereisegg Fri 29-Nov-13 14:37:13

I had double boobs after I'd scooped!

if you had asked me last week, I would have said my bras were too big, but after reading this thread I realised that half my boobs were under my arms as strap not tight enough, and that getting a good fit from those moulded t-shirt ones is nearly impossible.
I have lived in them for years!

SayHelloToMyLittleFriend Fri 29-Nov-13 15:01:30

Was just about to ask for advice but potted plant is the same as me, would never have thought to try bra's in 30E or 32F but will give it a try this weekend. Actually excited to try on bras haha.

TomskiGirl Tue 03-Dec-13 20:53:05

Ok, so I have a large selection of bras from Bra Stop in mostly 32DD and some 32D. Some of them fit ok, but I have wrinkling in the lacey part at the top of the cup, like I don't have quite enough boob to fill it despite scooping. One bra fits quite well but I think it makes me look flat chested. Now, do I exchange for a 32C?
I also wondered if there is a certain style that would fit me better, I like the idea of having more support underneath my arms.
Please help me super bra ladies!!!

SorrelForbes Wed 04-Dec-13 00:10:35

Which bras are they? It's quite likely to be a make/style issue.

TomskiGirl Wed 04-Dec-13 09:30:24

Curvy princess, Lepel Fiore, Gossard Superboost, Fantasie Evie plunge, Beautiful Paige Plunge, Fauve Emmanuelle, Fauve Isobel, Nessa Melania

SorrelForbes Wed 04-Dec-13 10:56:08

Plunge bras and full cup styles can result in gaping at the top of the cups. A quick glance at some of those suggests that you try more of a balconette or half cup shape and perhaps something less 'moulded'.

TomskiGirl Wed 04-Dec-13 22:16:25

Thanks for the reply. Do you have any brand/style suggestions?

SorrelForbes Thu 05-Dec-13 14:07:09

If you like Fauve, they do some nice half cups. The Panache Idina Balconette is very nice (and stretchy material which moulds to you IYSWIM). Debenhams Gorgeous range do some great balconette styles (size up in the back and cup as they run small).

I'm a big fan of the Cleo range (also made by Panache). Many of their bras (e.g.. Marcie, Bella, Melissa, Lily) seem to work well even on breasts which get gaping on other styles.

MrsHoratioNelson Thu 05-Dec-13 15:46:02

Sorrel and Stats can I ask about how nursing bras should fit? Sorrel kindly helped out on a shop rec I asked for but DS is 7 weeks and I haven't made it yet smile

I think I'm a 32GG and I ordered some Panache Sophie in that size but they seemed a little small. The trouble is they're soft cup and that tends to create mono boob. Should it? I'm not used to having any space between my boobs. If I can find some underwired bras that fit, I'd be happy to convert them to nursing bras, so I can get a better shape.

My boobs used to be my pride and joy like two oranges perched on my rib cage and I've had to get used to them brushing my abdomen when I bend down in the shower sad

TomskiGirl Thu 05-Dec-13 23:39:31

Thanks Sorrel, I'll have a look at some of those this weekend grin

Non-wired nursing bras do create horrendous monoboob I'm afraid. There are a couple of wired nursing bras available - one lot made by Anita, and the other by Ewa Michalak. The anita ones use a slightly different size range (i think they skip the double letters) so you will need to try a different cup size.

The alternative is to convert normal bras, I believe the kits are available on ebay. One of the other bra addicts (hazlenutt) has been doing this and I think posted some info so search for posts by her. It is safe to wear underwires, but you must make sure the fit is excellent and that the wire doesn't in any way sit on breast tissue.

MrsHoratioNelson Fri 06-Dec-13 09:30:39

Thanks Statistically and hazelnutt has mentioned that to me in the past so I might try that once I get the right size established.

If I were to stick with the soft cup (the Sophie was very comfortable but I felt it was too tight in the cup and squashing the nipple) is the fitting guidance similar to underwired bras or is there anything particular I should be looking out for?

HazleNutt Fri 06-Dec-13 09:37:13

I heard my name. Yes, MrsHoratio Panache Sophie will, just like other underwired nursing bras, cause a wobbly mono-boob. Anita and Bravado both skip double letters. I'm also 32GG at the moment and Bravado H/I nursing bra is way too small. So I think your only option is to convert, as you say. Really easy to do: www.motherwearuk.com/page23.htm
Sure you can find normal, underwired bras that fit in 32GG - Freya, Fantasie, Curvy Kate etc all have plenty of choice.

HazleNutt Fri 06-Dec-13 09:38:59

with fitting, not quite the same, as I have not found a soft cup bra yet where the middle part actually goes flat against breastbone. But if it's too tight then certainly go up a cup.

AnythingNotEverything Fri 06-Dec-13 09:47:54

MrsHN - I'm a similar size and was fitted at bravissimo in the following-


There is a little bit of mono boob but its not too bad with clothes on. Particularly as my breastfeeding clothes are quite loose anyway.

They're comfy at least - I even sleep in one.

Can I ask for some advice? I wear a 34FF. Last time I was fit (at Bravissimo) they said to wear a 34G but I've never been comfortable in them and have gone back to the 34FF. I know it's not the right size as I tend to get the 4 boob thing and I think a 34G might be the right size but I find the wire digs in under my armpit. It's as if the wire comes too high. I get it a little in the 34FF but not to the same extent. Is it a problem with the size or the style?

SorrelForbes Fri 06-Dec-13 11:37:04

It's most probably the style/brand. What bras are you currently wearing?

They're mostly Freya Balcony ones (I switched to the balcony ones as I found some others went too high between my boobs)

MrsHoratioNelson Fri 06-Dec-13 12:30:05

Thanks hazlenutt and anything

I might try converting some then. And I have a couple of second hand Royce bras that fit well and have less monoboob so that might be the way to go, but they come up very high, so I have to be careful what I wear with them.

poorbuthappy Fri 06-Dec-13 12:51:24

I find supermarkets bras sizing terrible compared to the "makes".
I am a 34G in Fantasie and Freya.

I tried on a 34g in asda cos tbh I can't afford £40 per bra and it was atrocious.

Does anyone else find this?
Perhaps I shouldn't expect anything else from a shop which sells katie Price (12 boob jobs and i'm a 36D) bras.

SorrelForbes Fri 06-Dec-13 12:51:44

Have you tried any Cleo (by Panache) bras? I find that they come up a bit lower. Personally I don't get on with Freya but they are decent bras.

Thank SorrelForbes I'll keep my eye out for some to try. I found Freya ones really comfy but then I lost a load of weight and put it back on again and they've just never felt quite right since.

poorbuthappy I've yet to find a cheap brand that fits. I tend to buy in the sales when a lot come down to half price. In particular last year I got some real bargains at Debenhams just after new year - they seem to bung all the sale bras on one stand then and reduce them further but you do have to be willing to search through them (I found lots hidden amongst the wrong sizes). It was worth it for £30 reduced to £9.50ish. The other place I get them from is Leia Lingerie's outlet section.

HazleNutt Fri 06-Dec-13 14:29:37

the trouble with cheap brands is that they will take their usual B-cup and make it bigger. That simply does not work for us, we need engineering and scaffolding.

With poking wires, fantasie bras that have side support might work - they come up high, but due to the support thing, the wires don't poke as much, I find.

howdidiget40something Fri 27-Dec-13 18:40:06

I went bra shopping yesterday and was nearly in tears!! I have hated bra shopping and I'm now super excited that I might be able to get a good fitting bra! Will you all help me out? I measured 34 around and bent over 38. I've read all the threads and am thinking I need to try a maybe 32DD, 32E, 34DD or 34D? Somewhere in that ball park? I can't tell you how that totally blows my mind!!! I'm 43 next month, had 5 children and have never tried anything on larger than a B which usually I swam in!! My teenage daughters have made fun of the folds in my bras and I am wearing a 38A.

howdidiget40something Fri 27-Dec-13 18:42:36

Oh, and any suggestions for something economical? I really don't want to have to spend over $20 for a bra....

SorrelForbes Fri 27-Dec-13 19:13:45

Did you take the under bust measurement holding the tape tight and the across bust one, loose? If you did, then you need to try a 34D/DD. Be prepared to try bigger cups though as I know people with similar measurements who often need an E or an F in some brands/styles.

A 34D/DD is an easy size to find so you should be able to get something nice. Debenhams Gorgeous range is very reasonable and the bras often come with free matching knickers. Be prepared to size up in the band and cup though.

howdidiget40something Fri 27-Dec-13 19:17:59

Where is a good place to try one on, instead of ordering online?

Are you in the USA (noticed the $) - if so I believe Nordstrom is generally good for having a range of bras. However even in the US 34D is a relatively easy size, but you will find getting anyone who has a clue about bra fitting very tricky so you will be pretty much flying solo!

hootloop Fri 27-Dec-13 19:35:17

I am glad to see a resurrected bra thread as I will be getting new bras this week, I am wearing a 30H as fitted in bravissimo last year. Have lost a bit of weight though and measurements are now 29 under and 44 leaning forward. Can any expert tell me if 30H is still right before I start looking.

SorrelForbes Fri 27-Dec-13 19:40:16

hootloop Try a 28J/JJ as well as your current size. It gets much more unpredictable from style to style and make to make once you get about an H cup.

Agree with SF, it gets more unpredictable but try to look at and appraise your current size. How is the back? If the back is big, but cups ok ish then start with 28HH and 28J and work from there.

hootloop Fri 27-Dec-13 19:47:32

Thanks both, the backs are big but not sure if they are just stretched, will try a few sizes around the 28/30 and hh/j mark.

howdidiget40something Sat 28-Dec-13 07:15:09

I did some more bra shopping today. Thought I was doing pretty good with a fit in a 34D as suggested from my measurements, but after buying a couple and trying them back on at home, the cup size is too big. Around is tight, which I'm not sure is bad, but really feels uncomfortable from what I've been used to. Any suggestions? Should I try a 35C? I am in the US. There are Nordstoms stores around, but I'm kind of far away, so I'm just trying to go at it on my own...

Are you scooping? There is no 35, it goes straight to 36.

Scooping: Basically, put bra on, then stand side on to a miror. Lean forward, put your right hand inside your left cup, reach round as far as you can and pull/scoop/yank all the flesh/soft tissue that is bumping under or over the back, around the straps or the armpit and haul its ass in to the cup. Repeat at other side. You might need to do it a couple of times (as doing one side knocks the other out slightly)

123chee Sat 11-Jan-14 20:54:51

Please help! For years I've also been wearing 38a what m&s measured me at! Just done what you suggested an measured 33 inches under if I'm measuring it firmly and when I lean over 38, what bra size should I look for?

SorrelForbes Sun 12-Jan-14 11:02:40

Try a a 32E/DD and a 34D/DD

123chee Sun 12-Jan-14 11:32:38

Thank you!

Il0vecheese Mon 17-Feb-14 09:54:04

I've just come across this email thread by searching for a size 38A bra as I am so fed up with not being able to find one and seeing 'statistically challenged' really interesting post! (so thank you 'Justkeeponsmiling' for your post otherwise I may never have seen this!)

So, I have just measured myself as advised and I am 36 around the chest and 43 around the boobs....
What does this mean?

SorrelForbes Mon 17-Feb-14 10:16:35

Try a 36F as a starting point but be prepared to try a 36FF too and perhaps a 34FF in some brands.

Make sure you test the band first by trying it on back to front first before sorting the cups. You may well need a bigger cup in some styles than suggested above!

hollyisalovelyname Mon 17-Feb-14 13:06:05

I thought I was 38 C. Rigby and Peller fitter said I was a 34 DD or 34 E. but it felt uncomfortabe so I still wear 38 C. Though I am mortified carrying 38 C to the till and hope I don't meet anyone I know smile

Holly you probably just need to try some different bras/brands - if anything r&p are occasionally a little on the loose side. what do you measure?

Il0vecheese Mon 17-Feb-14 14:25:44

Thank you SorrelForbes, are you really sure I would be a 36F/FF? I feel i've trouble filling a B cup!

SorrelForbes Mon 17-Feb-14 14:53:39

Il0vecheese Have you been wearing a 36B? How does it feel if you put it on back to front? How far from your body can pull the band? If you put it on the right way round and scoop, is there any overspill? I suspect there must be.

Il0vecheese Mon 17-Feb-14 17:36:04

SorrelForbes, I found a 36B bra and you were right, there was lots of overspill and lots of room around the band too! Thank you. Looking forward to trying on different bras now!

hollyisalovelyname Mon 17-Feb-14 21:34:43

Statistically in R&P the assistant brought quite a few brands of bra to try. I just didn't like how the bra felt at 34DD / 34 E. Too tight.
House of Fraser assistant also put me in the sizes above.
I'll stick with my Primark 5 euro 38 C ( with free thong smile)

kpdiscodancer Tue 18-Feb-14 07:48:07

Just seen this so measured myself as I know I am wearing the wrong bra! I wear a 36c but have just measured myself as 32 back and 40 bust. What does that make me? My boobs are definitely on the smaller side. I can remember desperately trying to buy a wonder bra at 18 and devastated that I was too small but that was when I was a size 8 and pre-kids! Thanks everyone

SorrelForbes Tue 18-Feb-14 08:07:34

kpdiscodancer Try a 32FF as a starting point.

hollyisalovelyname I'd bet money that you need a 34 but in an F or bigger!

kpdiscodancer Tue 18-Feb-14 08:13:44

Madness! But will try thank you.

MrsPnut Tue 18-Feb-14 09:24:17

Can I ask how the Cleo minnie fits? or the Curvy Kate eden?
I usually buy the Panache Tango and know my size in that but I have tried other curvy kate styles before and they've never been quite right.


HazleNutt Tue 18-Feb-14 09:32:16

I havent' tried Eden, but generally Curvy Kate is very stretchy, so I usually go down a back size. And if you are used to the firm support Panache gives, Curvy Kate might indeed feel too soft.

MrsPnut Tue 18-Feb-14 09:34:06

Thanks, I think that's what my problem was before with the curvy kate I had.
It was ok for a night out but not enough for day to day wear.

WowserBowser Tue 18-Feb-14 09:57:36

I love these threads but have never had a tape measure. Fed up of my bras so have resorted to wool and one of those metal measure things.

So i used to wear a 32b which was always a comfortable bra. Got pregnant and m&s put me in a 34c. Still wearing them even though Ds is 3. Although from reading these threads i also have a 32d as i am a size 10/12 but my top half is skinniest.


WowserBowser Tue 18-Feb-14 09:58:33

30under boob 37 around boob.

What does that make me?

hollyisalovelyname Tue 18-Feb-14 10:03:26

Sorrel my boobs are way too small to be an F sad

HazleNutt Tue 18-Feb-14 10:20:34

holly, letters don't mean a thing without the band size. 38F is not the same size as 34F.

Wowser, try 30F and around that size.

SorrelForbes Tue 18-Feb-14 10:24:37

hollyisalovelyname You'd be surprised! My DSis and her eldest both look almost flat chested but wear an FF and F respectively. A friend measures at a 30DD but needs a 30FF!

WowserBowser Try a 30F as a starting point. If you scoop whilst wearing your C/D cup bras, do you get overspill/bulge/underam or back fat bulge?

MrsPnut I find that the Cleo Millie/Marcie/Bella/Melissa/Meg fit the same as my Panache Idina Balconette (the only Panache non-Cleo I own!). I'm a 30GG in all of these bras. I don't get on with CK at all, the cups are too shallow and the wires are too wide.

SorrelForbes Tue 18-Feb-14 10:25:30

Mornin' Hazle grin

WowserBowser Tue 18-Feb-14 10:32:40

I've just nearly fainted.

Yes, over spill and under arm bulge. No back fat.

Could this be why some of the straps hurt? Like they feel like they are really pulling down on my shoulders.

Thank you for your help. Can't wait to try on some bras!

It's funny as some of my 34s feel really tight which made me think i needed a 36 before seeing one of these threads. 32d is less tight.

BUT i would say my boobs look small. Probably Kate Moss, Kylie Minogue size. Or more recently Jennifer Aniston.

Is this because a 30f, relatively, isn't that big?

HazleNutt Tue 18-Feb-14 10:37:15

hey there Sorrel grin

Yes Wowser - the back should be offering most of the support. If it's too big then it does not and your boobs are supported mainly by straps. And that hurts. 30F is really not that big.

WowserBowser Tue 18-Feb-14 10:42:16

Ah i see! Thank you!

We have a bra shop in town, expensive i think but may go and try some on. Will the women laugh me out of thesshop? grin

SorrelForbes Tue 18-Feb-14 11:19:21

I doubt if they'll laugh at you (if they do, flounce out in style!).

However, not all lingerie shop fitters are well trained and many do use the old +4/5" method. If they come at you with a tape measure and then add inches, run! I'd go in and ask to try some 30Fs and then go from there, asking their opinion if they seem knowledgeable. Make sure you try the bra on back to front first to check the band fit.

ALovelyBunch0fCoconuts Tue 18-Feb-14 20:59:24

this is a revelation. .. im off to find my tape measure. I'll be back! grin grin

ALovelyBunch0fCoconuts Tue 18-Feb-14 21:02:56

im a 34 under and a 39 over, bent at 90°.

my boobs are tiny and I prefer to wear push up/padded bras. I am back fat city and always try to scoop but it all just travels back.

im going to faint if you say a D grin

ALovelyBunch0fCoconuts Tue 18-Feb-14 21:03:26

oh and im currently in a 34b sad

erm...34DD actually!

It's travelling back because there's no room for it in the cup!

ALovelyBunch0fCoconuts Tue 18-Feb-14 21:09:21


I havemt read this whole thread so apologies for making you repeat stuff but where is best to try bras on? what brands are best? I live in a small town with not much choice.

I dont know how I could possibly be a DD!!!! grin grin grin confused

Do you have a Debenhams or JOhn Lewis? Any department stores at all?

ALovelyBunch0fCoconuts Tue 18-Feb-14 21:17:50

nope. just crappy shops like peacocks/new look/DP.

there is one bra shop that might be the best bet.

there was a brilliant independent underwear shop but it shut down unfortunately.

ALovelyBunch0fCoconuts Tue 18-Feb-14 21:18:22

ive also just shared this with my friend who has tje biggest breasts ive ever seen and also my mum grin

ALovelyBunch0fCoconuts Tue 18-Feb-14 21:19:26

oh and does it make a difference if I buy tshirt style bras? or uber padded ones? I prefer that feel/look to thin material.

god ive never bought anything bigger than a b!

When you're trying to get the fit right t shirt bras aren't the best simply because they don't adapt to your body shape. So you can get gaping which isn't due to size, but bra shape. Start with a balcony or balconette for trying to work out your size then experiment with t shirts.
34DD is a fairly standard size so you should be able to find them in New look or the bra shop but watch out for the fitter in the wee shop!

ALovelyBunch0fCoconuts Tue 18-Feb-14 21:30:46

what would a 37 under and 49 over be? grin

ALovelyBunch0fCoconuts Tue 18-Feb-14 21:30:56


ALovelyBunch0fCoconuts Tue 18-Feb-14 21:34:51

I do like a balconette actually so ill start from there smile thank you so much this is the best news ever for me! grin

yup start with 36J

FunkyBarnYard Tue 18-Feb-14 21:42:18

Tomorrow I am buying a fabric tape measure. I currently wear a 38a moulded padded bra which gives the illusion of 2 cup sizes larger as I don't feel I have boobs!

I'll be back

coffeewithcreamm Wed 19-Feb-14 07:52:37

I'm so pleased I've found this thread, I've worn a 36d for years but never felt I have enought oomph! Tried on some 34ds the other day and it was like my puppies had escaped.

I'd be so grateful if you could tell me what a 32 under & 38 over might be, please?

Nojustalurker Wed 19-Feb-14 08:00:22


SorrelForbes Wed 19-Feb-14 08:08:27

coffeewithcreamm Try a 32E. However, this is only one cup bigger (volume wise) from the 34D so you may even need a 32F.

coffeewithcreamm Wed 19-Feb-14 08:20:50

Thank you so much! I'll try that. I've done the scooping today, a revelation!

coffeewithcreamm Wed 19-Feb-14 08:23:03

Has this already been answered? Apologies if so. Is a DD cup not a whole size up from a D, just a slight difference?

A dd is a full cup up, but as you go down a band size you go up a cup size to maintain the same volume. So a 34d has the same boob storage capacity as a 32dd although the shape will differ.

princessalbert Wed 19-Feb-14 08:56:45

This info on mn was a revelation to me. I always wore a 36B. Because that's how I was measured as a teen (in M&S!).

I currently rock a 32E. Much perkier.

BUT - why are these sizes so hard to find in general shops. It seems if one wants a DD/E cup the band sizes don't start until 34 or 36. It's very annoying, as it means that cheap bras are impossible to find.

HazleNutt Wed 19-Feb-14 09:06:42

princess because exactly like you, most 32E women are wearing the 36B bras M&S stuffed them in grin
Spread the word and once more women find their right size, shops must review their stock as well.

coffeewithcreamm Wed 19-Feb-14 09:27:02

Thank you for that info, you're all a mine of info!

i'm a 30F (i was an intervention lurker) and at the time couldn't afford a really expensive bra but one place i did find some that i could afford was surprisingly tesco in the fuller bust range. obviously the bras don't last as long as really good ones but they were fine for a good while and at least fitted and supported as they should

i can't find those sizes online but they definitely had them instore when i bought them

SorrelForbes Wed 19-Feb-14 09:51:10

Alas, I've never seen a 30 band in Tesco, Asda etc. or any of the high street stores like New Look and Top Shop. So frustrating.

i definitely did find a 30 band in tesco a while ago (in a tesco metro no less), but that may have been pure luck

it's also clear that they are branded as 'freak' band sizes!

FunkyBarnYard Wed 19-Feb-14 10:06:33

Can't wait to get my tape measure. I find bras so uncomfortable and I have marks where it digs in everywhere and can't quite fathom it when I'm so flat chested.

Intrigued whether I'm not quite what i think I am!

WowserBowser Wed 19-Feb-14 10:56:55

It really annoys me now when i see celeb bra sizes being reported.

Today Victoria Beckham has reportedly admitted to having a boob job reversed. She originally went from a 34a to 34d. Why would she be a 34?

NaffOrf Wed 19-Feb-14 10:58:25

If La Beckham is a 34 I will eat my own head.

HazleNutt Wed 19-Feb-14 11:12:15

sure she can be 34, if she likes to wear bras wrapped around her body twice grin

HenriettaPie Wed 19-Feb-14 13:32:14

Where is the best place to get measured ladies? I don't have a bravissimo near me?

FunkyBarnYard Wed 19-Feb-14 13:55:20

Ok I have measured
Under 34
Over 39 (at 90 degrees. - which is not easy with a bad back!)

I have only Matalan and peacocks in town for bra shopping. Can you recommend somewhere I should go?

And of course what size I should try!

Try a 34DD funky Also try a 32E.
No idea on what shops to go to, sorry.

princessalbert Wed 19-Feb-14 14:09:22

Matalan do stock bras in larger sizes. Not many, but some.

You have more chance of getting a 34DD though than a 32E (my size).

may i hijack with an additional question, as i'm trying to help my mum wear a bra that actually fits! When you do the bend-over-and-measure-your-boobs, as they are older and childrearing they are droopier... do you still measure loosely, and without a bra?

PsychicPaper Wed 19-Feb-14 14:42:35

Can anyone help me?

I currently wear a 44 H, but it is very uncomfortable, i cant get the middle bit to lay flat iykwim?

Measuring your way i get 48 inches under bust, and 53 over

Any ideas?

PsychicPaper Wed 19-Feb-14 14:52:43

Oh also.

The only one that gives me good shape is a 40HH from Panache, but it is so tight at the sides where the band sits as to be physically painful after a few hours hmm

SorrelForbes Wed 19-Feb-14 15:15:39

HenriettaPie Bravissimo are the best on the high street (they don't actually measure you, they fit by eye) followed by some branches of Debenhams, JL and HoF. Practically everywhere else (many independents excluded) continues to add inches.

RevealTheHiddenBeach Yes, loosely, no bra. This is important as you're ensuring you are including 'all' breast tissue. Bear in mind that the cup size is just a starting point. I need a bigger cup than I measure for example. Some people need a smaller one.

PsychicPaper OK, the central gore not lying flat indicates that the cups are too small (and the style is possibly wrong too). Your measurements indicate a starting point of 48DD which is much smaller cup size (in volume) than you're currently wearing. A 48DD is equivalent to a 46E and a 44F. Are you sure those measurements (48/53) are correct?

The fact that you're already wearing a 44 indicates that you are able to wear a smaller band than you measure. Many of us with more squish on our torsos can do this (and need to for support!). Added to which is the fact that the bigger the band, the more elastic and thus more stretch in % terms.

Wearing your 44H/HH, can you scoop and tell me if there is overspill/bulge or gaping? If you put it on back to front, how far can you pull the band away from your body?

Panache are very stiff bands and it may be that you need to try a different make (e.g. Elomi or Fantasie) which is a bit softer.

FunkyBarnYard Wed 19-Feb-14 15:27:04

I already get complete skin marks of my bra. I am currently in a 38a.

By buying a smaller band won't this mark more?

HazleNutt Wed 19-Feb-14 15:31:11

funky - first, some skin marks are normal - of course, the bra should not actually be painful. You get marks from your socks and jeans, don't you? Bras should be tight and therefore will leave some marks as well.
Second - no, a 34DD does not necessarily leave more marks than your 38A. The 38A cup is too small for you and the back therefore feels tight. It's equal to only 34C cup. You will have more room in DD.

Also, as your current cup is small and back large, your boobs pull the band down, it does not sit where it is supposed to and therefore is even more likely to leave marks than a well fitting bra.

PsychicPaper Wed 19-Feb-14 15:40:52

Hi Sorrel,

Thanks for replying.

i remeasured leaning forward, and got 46/62?!?!

The 44H overspills like i have a million boobs if I scoophmm but my boobs are weird they are kind of more skin than flesh on top (sorry for tmi!)

With the 40 I can't get a finger under the band for leverage, let alone pull, with the44 i can get a finger in, but it wont pull any further than that

SorrelForbes Wed 19-Feb-14 15:56:37

PsychicPaper Ah, those measurements make more sense in relation to the 44H and 40HH you're wearing!

46/62 suggests a starting point of 46K. This cup would have the equivalent volume of the cup of a 44KK, a 42L and a 40LL. I'm not surprised that you are experiencing some overspill as the 44H is 5 cups too small!

I would hazard a guess that you are probably a 42 in most brands, maybe a 40 in looser makes. Your choices in the above cup sizes is going to be a bit more limited than someone looking for a 34DD as you need something that's really going to give firm, comfortable support, as well as a good shape!

Bravissimo go up to a 40 back and an L cup so I would start there as you never know, a 40L might work fine.

Elomi do bras up to a 46 but their cups stop at a K. Worth a try though.

Sculptress by Panache also make bras up to a 46J so again, might be worth trying a 40/42/44J.

Dessous are another brand that make larger cups but I don't know anything about them (apart from that they're pricey!).

BeerHunter Wed 19-Feb-14 16:20:04

I need a bra intervention, praise the Lord, amen and all that.

Currently wearing a very uncomfortable 38B.

Under bust is coming in at 38 1/4 inches. Bust is measuring 46 inches.


WowserBowser Wed 19-Feb-14 16:35:10

Wow no wonder a b is uncomfortable!

spleenyone Wed 19-Feb-14 16:45:34

This is a whole new world. All my bras are awful and don't fit. Now where's that measuring tape...

SorrelForbes Wed 19-Feb-14 17:04:31

BeerHunter Wearing your 38B, can you scoop and tell me if there is overspill/bulge or gaping? If you put it on back to front, how far can you pull the band away from your body?

BeerHunter Wed 19-Feb-14 17:18:59

I can pull it about 3 inches away from my body, tis a very well used bra though and I always have it done up on the last clasp.

If I do the scoop and dump thing I gave lots of boob hanging over the top.

OK, your measurements suggest a starting point of a 38FF however given what you say about the band I would suggest you should actually try a 36 too, probably in a G cup to start with

Afternoon Sorrel!

SorrelForbes Wed 19-Feb-14 17:29:07

Good afternoon Stats. grin

PsychicPaper Wed 19-Feb-14 17:32:08

Thnks, this could be a shopping challenge!!

Does anyone know of a custom made bra provider?

BeerHunter Wed 19-Feb-14 17:34:03

Wow! Thank you. I am really excited about going bra shopping now.

VelmaD Wed 19-Feb-14 17:45:56

I measure 33/34 and around 40 when leaning forwards - I mostly wear a 34E and have no real issue with them as bras (have learnt the shape that suits my boobs it seems) and no digging in/backache etc - am I along the right lines with this size then?

FunkyBarnYard Wed 19-Feb-14 17:46:46

Any tips on what type of bra I should buy??

I usually buy the padded bras that increase the size of the boob but if I am not really an a cup a better fitting bra might do that for me anyway? Is that right?

velmad 34e is in the right area certainly

Funky try a balcony or balconette while you are working out size. Once all your boob is in the cup you will probably find you dont need the padding

spleenyone Wed 19-Feb-14 17:49:35

Please can I join in? Measuring 39 under then 45 - I think. Currently in a very old washed out 38b. Help!

your poor boobies. Try a 38F as a start point

spleenyone Wed 19-Feb-14 18:04:10

Thank you statistically! I must do something about this. Should I just order some bras in that size online or is it worth a trip to bravissimo?

If you have an accessible bravissimo then go. That's a rough size but it's only a start point - we're becoming pretty good at working out sizes from measurements and a few tests and descriptions but Bravissimo will basically look at the bra you are wearing and work out from there what you need.

spleenyone Wed 19-Feb-14 19:21:13

Thanks. I've no idea if I've even done the measuring right so should probably make an effort to get to the shop. Even if I did order online what are the chances of me getting the right style and size and fit etc. This is such a revelation though. Thanks again.

chocolatemoose1993 Thu 20-Feb-14 00:01:20

Can I join in ? I've just measured : 31 under, 40 ish over. Not sure how accurate the over measurement is though - I found it difficult to tell if I had the tape measure straight :0s

Currently wearing a 34C (fitted in M&S), which definitely doesn't fit, scooping results in a very interesting multi-boob situation blush

Start with 30gg, 30g,32g and 32ff

HazleNutt Thu 20-Feb-14 08:27:57

People who have been stuffed into ridiculous sizes by M&S - after you have found your correct size, if you have the time, would you mind tweeting/emailing/FBing M&S and telling them that their whole system and bra fitter training is wrong?
I know it's probably a futile effort, but if there is just a tiny, little chance that they will see the light, this would save the next generations from badly fitting bras.

Can I join in too please? I've just measured 30 under and 36.5 over (hope I measured right!).

I'm currently wearing a 34b but I find it rides up during the day but if I lengthen the straps I lose any shape at all.

30e and f

e and f really? shock right off bra shopping.

Thank you for your help StatisticallyChallenged.

chocolatemoose1993 Thu 20-Feb-14 09:19:09

shock yikes, ok ! Thankyou smile
Another question if that's ok - I don't really like wearing underwired bras (my auntie died of breast cancer and was told that rubbing / poking bra wires were probably a contributing factor; so I'm very wary). Does a non-wired bra in a 30g exist, or do I need to just get wired ones and make sure they fit really well ?

HazleNutt Thu 20-Feb-14 09:25:17

non-wired bras will not offer nearly the same fit, lift and support. There is no scientific evidence that underwire causes cancer.

My understanding is that well fitted wires are totally safe-they should never be sitting on breast tissue though, the wire should run just outside the breast. There are a few non wired but at a 30g you will get far less support. They should never poke breast tissue either

Personally I wear wires but am generally braless at home.

Oh, can I have a bra intervention?

I've never in my life found a bra that fits me! I have a whole selection of the things that are either too big/small, baggy, four boob creating etc etc.

I'll need to locate a tape measure though blush

chocolatemoose1993 Thu 20-Feb-14 09:32:53

Thanks for your help Hazle and Statistically, I'm off to order some bras !

princessalbert Thu 20-Feb-14 09:33:31

Watch this video clip

bra style

the first woman measured 30 around her rib cage , but the fitter put her in a 34.

It didn't show the tape measurements for the subsequent women, but no. 3 and 4 in particular were very slim - and in no way were they a 34 anything.

When you say 'lean forward' how far am I leaning? After feeding DS2&3 my boobs can vary a lot in their position depending on how far I'm leaning forward! :D

I think I need a diagram blush

HazleNutt Thu 20-Feb-14 09:39:07

and M&S writes on the same page: 'Underband should be snug but with enough room to fit two fingers underneath it.'

Well darlings, if you put a woman measuring 30 into a 34 band, she can get 2 fists underneath, with room to spare. Explain that!

Ok I'm measuring at 30 underneath and 38 at the biggest part while leaning slightly forward blush

Should say that today I'm wearing a 38 FF

WowserBowser Thu 20-Feb-14 09:44:04

Right! Just got a bra through the post!

30f fits like a glove! I've gone from a 34c. So much more comfortable. Thanks! thanks

Can I just confirm that-measure 30 and 38 and currently in a 38ff? it should be floating around your body and barely touching your boobs!

HazleNutt Thu 20-Feb-14 09:48:25

ahh I just watched the M&S perfect fit video. The bands are wrinking, last woman's bra is nowhere near sitting flat in the middle, the poor woman in the black push-up has underwires on her belly, not under boobs..My eyes!!

Yep, right measurements, blush it doesn't fit, the band is loose and baggy and the cups are squishing everything all over the place.

I don't know what a decent bra feels or looks like.

I have always been told I have giant boobs, even when I was a child sad I'm only a size 10, 5ft.

M&S tried to hoist me into a 38C hmm which needless to say was horrible.

I'm truly lost in a sea of floaty, baggy, ancient, over washed bras.

tits you need to lean so far forward that your back is almost horizontal to the floor.

The reason I'm confused is that your measurements suggest a 30ff. that's a lot smaller in the cup than your current bra which is designed for someone who measures 46 around. The last thing it should be doing is squashing your breasts as it should be enormous in cups and back. Also a 30ff isn't that big and from your description I think you have quite big boobs. at a 10 30 underbust sounds right but I'm a bit confused by the cups

I only leaned forward slightly, I'll try again with more leaning. smile

As close to ninety degrees as poss and measure round the lowest hanging bit. DONT pull the Tape tight-you dont want to squish tissue

Ok so here's what I've done, I've gone upstairs into a spacious room. Whipped bra and top completely off and really measures thoroughly. blush

V. Different Results compared to my downstairs tiny loo and trying to measure under clothes/bra blush

So in all my glory I'm getting

32 under
and a fricking 46 at the biggest point whilst leaning right forward, Jesus I'm a freak aren't I?! blushsad

If it makes a difference I have on breast that hangs lower that the other when leaning 90 degrees blush

Ok that makes so much more sense. The under measure should be done tight and upright and given you are a 10 I suspect that was correct at 30? If so 30 and 46 suggests a 30kk as a start size. If it's 32 then start with a 32jj.

You are not a freak. No way mo how. Are you still feeding btw?

No I'm not feeding, I stopped about 6 months ago. smile

I didn't know bras went up to that size!

Thank you for being so kind. thanks

I've ordered one in both sizes to see which is the better fit. smile

washngo Thu 20-Feb-14 10:56:47

Can anyone help me, I measured as instructed and get 30 and 36 inches. What size does that make me? I wear a 34b from m&s at the mo..thank you smile

HazleNutt Thu 20-Feb-14 11:14:08

you need around 30E

washngo Thu 20-Feb-14 11:17:35

Thank you HazelNutt!

washngo Thu 20-Feb-14 11:21:46

I'm looking on the Next website and all the bras start at 32?

WowserBowser Thu 20-Feb-14 11:23:50

I ordered mine off Amazon as there were quite a few 30s and i just really wanted to try one!

Try the Bravissimo website instead.

washngo Thu 20-Feb-14 11:25:20

I'm looking on the next website, and can only see 30DD, would that be about right?

washngo Thu 20-Feb-14 11:28:49

Sorry - posted first post then realised next did have some, but not in E!

SorrelForbes Thu 20-Feb-14 11:35:52

Beware of ordering from Next as I believe they miss out the double letters like FF and GG (as do M&S)

Piscivorus Thu 20-Feb-14 12:08:57

I sent a letter of complaint to M&S a while ago regarding one of their rude and incompetent bra fitters. I explained my full complaint then suggested they asked all their directors, if men had to have support garments which required having their testicles measured and fitted, would they be happy to be treated as I had been? I had a very nice letter back and some gift vouchers but it hasn't made any difference as the rude woman is still there

ALovelyBunch0fCoconuts Thu 20-Feb-14 12:17:43

Can I jusy say this has improved my life dramatically.

just been bra shopping after posting my measurements the other night and ive gome from a 36b to a 32dd.

ive been so down about my lack of boobs amd considering surgery but now ive got a properly fitting bra they look bigger more perkier and my waist is more defined. I cant quite get over the difference!

the only shop I could go in was m&s and they had some really pretty bras and I refused the measuring service when she offered grin

WowserBowser Thu 20-Feb-14 13:58:12

My friend is 30 and 38. What sizes should she try?

SorrelForbes Thu 20-Feb-14 14:17:52


WowserBowser Thu 20-Feb-14 14:22:20

Thank you

spleenyone Thu 20-Feb-14 17:48:54

I took your advice, statistically, and went to bravissimo today, the fitter thought I am a 38C, so obviously they couldn't help me. A big different to your suggested 38F but my measuring would have been rubbish. She tried me in a 38D t-shirt bra with quite stiff cups and they were gaping at the top. A bit depressing! Thanks for your time and help though.

Surprised she tried you in a T-shirt bra as they are the worst for gaping even when they're the right size!

spleenyone Thu 20-Feb-14 18:20:30

I don't know much about this bra malarkey but I was in there less than five minutes before sorry I can't help you! What would you do now? It seems 38 is right for the back measure, maybe I'll buy some 38Cs and see what they're like. Basically I had no idea of sizes as all my bras are so ancient!

That's really unusual and surprising tbh. I'd try ordering maybe a 38C and D but in something unpadded - a simple balconette style probaby so that you can assess the fit without gaping. I have had moulded bras 2 sizes too small which still gape at places.

spleenyone Thu 20-Feb-14 18:35:03

Ok great I will do that- thank you!

coffeewithcreamm Fri 21-Feb-14 08:58:55

I'd be very grateful for a 29.5 under & 36 over, conversion for my sister, please!

SorrelForbes Fri 21-Feb-14 09:32:40

Tell her to try a 28FF/F and a 30E/F

coffeewithcreamm Fri 21-Feb-14 12:08:44

Ace, thank you!

brb505 Fri 28-Mar-14 00:21:00

i thought i was 38a and reading comments i`m confused, im 36under 40-41 what size should i try ???

Try 36d and dd.

mal1990 Sat 26-Apr-14 18:23:50

Hi wearing a 34DD bra but I don't feel like it's right I just measured myself and im a 33and half under the bust and a 42 around the bust so what size does that make me? X

SorrelForbes Sat 26-Apr-14 18:49:58

Try a 32G/GG and a 34FF/G.

What fit issues have you got with your 34DD? Have you got overspill/quadboob?

mal1990 Sat 26-Apr-14 20:50:22

Quadboob im constantly looking down and realising I have 4 boobs and having to rearrange myself it's so embarrassing lol

SorrelForbes Sat 26-Apr-14 21:21:40

Have you scooped? I am guessing that the quadboob would become octoboob!

Try the sizes above, you definitely need a bigger cup!

TooExtraImmatureCheddar Sat 26-Apr-14 22:01:32

I've been interventioned before but am now 27 weeks pregnant. I'm wearing a 30H most days (except for the days when I need a plunge bra and resort to an ancient clapped out 34F, ahem). New measurements 32, 42/43. So that's an, um, 32GG or H. Is that right?

Is 27 weeks a good time to buy bras or will I expand some more? Will go Google adjusting bras to be nursing bras for future reference.

TooExtraImmatureCheddar Sat 26-Apr-14 22:03:08

Should I buy a 34 band in case my rib cage grows some more?

mal1990 Sat 26-Apr-14 22:07:25

I will try thank you �� x

SorrelForbes Sat 26-Apr-14 22:27:13

TooExtraImmatureCheddar I'd try a 32 on the tightest hook as that'll tell you if there's room to expand. If it's too tight, get a 34.

justadreameruk Sat 26-Apr-14 22:44:42

Probably going to embarrass myself now, have been wearing 34-38B for forever as I've changed sizes. Now at my biggest and nearly 21 wks pregnant. Just got the OH to help me measure and he got 40/49. How wrong am I? Xx

Just a dream, start with a 38GG or 40G.

SorrelForbes Sat 26-Apr-14 22:56:02

Are you sure he held the tape tightly for the under bust measurement? If so, and you're wearing 36/38 bands then you sound like someone who can wear a smaller band than they measure. if you put a 36 on back to front, how does it feel? How far can you stretch it from your body?

justadreameruk Sat 26-Apr-14 23:02:29

G??? I can't honestly imagine that, am now querying my OHs measurements, my boobs are nowhere near that big in the cup surely otherwise I'd be absolutely bursting out of my B cups which I'm not. Hope that doesn't sound like I don't believe you or am being shitty, just am in absolute shock. The underbust was tight, can't wear 36 any more but 38 seems comfortable enough but could believe 40 being more appropriate. Going to redo the bigger measurement, I can't get my head round it. Xx

justadreameruk Sat 26-Apr-14 23:05:12

Tighter measurement round boobs is 47, does that mean E cup? Xx

Pinkandpurplehairedlady Sat 26-Apr-14 23:05:14

Could I ask for some help please? I'm currently wearing a 32A but it definitely doesn't fit - there's lots of gaping going onsad I've measured myself and under bust is 28 and round boobs is 32.

Heathergx Sat 26-Apr-14 23:06:01

Hiya my first measement was 35 second 44 inches could you help me please I haven't a clue what size to get n mine are starting to feel uncomfortable being 21 weeks pregnant! Many thanks!xx

SorrelForbes Sat 26-Apr-14 23:14:28

justadreameruk a 36/38 might feel too tight because you're wearing too small a cup. What's your tight under bust measurement?

SorrelForbes Sat 26-Apr-14 23:15:15

Pinkandpurplehairedlady try a 28D

SorrelForbes Sat 26-Apr-14 23:16:11

Heathergx I'd try a 36FF but be prepared to go bigger on the cup.

Pinkandpurplehairedlady Sat 26-Apr-14 23:17:25

Thank you!

justadreameruk Sat 26-Apr-14 23:19:35

40, started at 42 but made OH tighten it as I refused to go up that far. I'd say the most accurate measurements are 40/47. Xx

SorrelForbes Sat 26-Apr-14 23:25:46

justadreameruk you are obviously someone who can wear a smaller band than you measure. Was The under bust measurement 'break the tape' tight?

Did you try the 36 on back to front? There's no point me suggesting bras with a 40 band if you can get into a 36!

justadreameruk Sat 26-Apr-14 23:36:14

Sorry, I think I've confused things with how I've worded my posts. I can't fit 36 any more, 38 seems ok but 40 may be more comfortable as my 38s are quite worn and stretchy and often on the last hook. Only thing I'm unsure of is cup size. Am happy to go grab a few sizes at the shops tomorrow and see what works.

Heathergx Sat 26-Apr-14 23:37:49

Really?? A FF?? Where would be the best place to buy a bra that size? Iv been wearing 38d and the moment would never imagine id be a FF lol!xxx

SorrelForbes Sat 26-Apr-14 23:39:13

New bras should always be on the last hook. Please, put your 36 on back to front and see if you can do it up. If you can and it's tight but comfortable then you don't need a bigger band. Most people who measure 40+ need a smaller band.

SorrelForbes Sat 26-Apr-14 23:41:06

Remember that an FF in a 36 is not the same as an FF in a 38. Try Bravissimo, JL, Debenhams and HoF.

SorrelForbes Sat 26-Apr-14 23:42:08

Sorry, to be clear, bras should be on the loosest hook.

Heathergx Sun 27-Apr-14 00:18:15

Ok Hun iv ordered one so will let you know how get on smile xx

Heathergx Sun 27-Apr-14 00:20:04

My friend measures 32 and 35.5 what size would be best for her?xxx

DillieDoily Sun 27-Apr-14 00:40:47

I'd really appreciate some help with a bra sizing please. I measure 39 under and 49 bending over- but my boobs are horrible, long, thin, saggy things (maybe need to try this scooping!). I'm also 9 weeks pregnant (no idea if this matters!)

SorrelForbes Sun 27-Apr-14 08:56:13

Heathergx tell her to try a 32D.

DillieDoily try 38GG/H and 40G/GG. However, you also may need a smaller back than you measure but of course your rib cage will expand during pregnancy! Tricky to predict. How do your current bras feel/fit?

DillieDoily Sun 27-Apr-14 09:30:02

Thanks! I am currently wearing a 38dd but really cannot find a good one- the band always digs in and the underwires seem to poke into my underarms very viciously- constantly have sore red marks.
My favourite bras for years were fantasie allure moulded ones which were comfy and gave me great shape but they're discontinued now.

SorrelForbes Sun 27-Apr-14 09:45:17

DillieDoily If you scoop when wearing your 38DD do you have a lot of overspill? If you put it on back to front, how far can you pull it away from your body?

DillieDoily Sun 27-Apr-14 12:55:13

Good god just scooped for the first time ever and my boobs are totally different! Falling out of the cups. Total overspill! When I put my bra on backwards (on tightest setting, which I never usually do) I can pull it out about 3 inches?

TooExtraImmatureCheddar Sun 27-Apr-14 14:06:24

Right, have ordered a raspberry Panache Tango plunge bra in 32H! Ebay, £12.89 inc p&p. Also matching pants, which I now realise I've ordered in a size 10, which probably won't work at 6 months pg. Oh well, I'll keep them until I've had the baby and wear them then.

starynight Mon 28-Apr-14 13:36:03

Could I have some help finding the correct sizing please. If I've done it correctly (leaning over to a 90 degree angle?) I'm 36.5 inch under bust and 43 inch over... Thankyou

SorrelForbes Mon 28-Apr-14 14:30:20

starynight Try a 36F and similar sizes (e.g. 34FF, 36FF)

neshi Mon 28-Apr-14 14:52:41

ok, I gained enough courage to grab the measuring tape!

29.5 inch under and 33 inch over...am I right to think I should try a 30D???
It sounds insane!!!!!!!

starynight Mon 28-Apr-14 15:13:26

Great Thankyou sorrelforbes

SorrelForbes Mon 28-Apr-14 17:34:56

neshi Try a 28D/DD and 30C/D. Don't be surprised if you need a bigger cup!

amazonianwoman Mon 28-Apr-14 20:02:44

I went for my inaugural Bravissimo fitting today. Went in feeling very excited at the thought of some new well fitting bras and came out wanting to cry sad

The fitter was adamant that a Bravissimo own brand Satine in 36F was the right fit. I had 4 boobs and massive underarm bulges! It just looked too small. And a Cleo Juna balconet in 38E was the only other bra that she thought was a reasonable fit - even though the lace trim was gaping at the top. Not impressed and felt like a freak sad

I found the former bra on the shop floor in a 36FF - much better. I could probably have even tried a 36G but am trying to lose weight so bought the 36FF.

So, back to the drawing board, I need more than one! I don't know where else to shop so will have to buy online. I think I need the wires to sit quite wide - boobs are quite wide set, I'm very tall so my back is quite wide - to fit well under arms. I don't like really thin soft cups. Which brands might be best to start with? I did try a Panache moulded one which fit well (Superbra?) but it was very unattractive.

Any help much appreciated!

SorrelForbes Mon 28-Apr-14 20:26:16

amazonianwoman That doesn't sound good at all! However, I bet if you went back and booked a different fitter you'd have a better experience! You should definitely feedback!

OK, the lace on the Juna never sits flat! The way to check the fit of the Juna is to tuck the lace in so you can see how the top of the cup is sitting. I struggle with many plunge styles, including the Satine. They just don't work for me. I'd go back and try it in a much bigger cup and perhaps try Curvy Kate Elegance too or the Freya Deco. Howver, if the Panache fitted well, perhaps try the Jasmine or some of the Cleos - Maddie, Neve, etc.

Good evening smile

Amazonianwoman as you've figured, you need a wider spaced, shallow curved wire to ensure you don't hang over the sides at the outer edge of the cups. The ones that I know sit better than Satine for that are their own brand Dixie, Freya Marvel and Freya Patsy half cup.

Definitely feedback, call them and ask to be refitted by an experienced fitter too. They hate negative experiences to go unresolved. Wonder which store...

I'm going to contradict Sorrel here <controversial> as the Jasmine wires are mega narrow like most of the Cleo balconettes. If you are 'wider' on the upper half of your breasts, then Juna doesn't gape either! <you know I love you really grin>

If the moulded Panache one was this one then you may like the lace covered Porcelain Idina better although the fit is slightly different. It would also confirm your 'width' if you found it comfortable. Other Panache styles that may work are the Loretta, Melody balconette and Rhapsody.
Tutti Rouge and Curvy Kate- from the showgirl range- are well worth trying but may be a bit busy for every day for some. HTH smile

SorrelForbes Mon 28-Apr-14 21:18:48

marriednotdead Contradict away! You're quite right (as ever!). The Jasmine was a bit too wide for me but I forget that I need a very narrow, deep bra so everyone is 'wide' in my eyes grin

I forgot about the moulded Idina too! In fact, ignore everything I wrote, it's Monday, I have resorted to wine. It's been a day and a half blush

amazonianwoman Mon 28-Apr-14 22:48:33

Thanks Sorrel and married. I wish I could commission you both to sort me out!

The Satine in the bigger cup that I found after the assistant gave up on me is actually ok. I've been wearing it all afternoon and it's comfortable and the shape is ok. The wires are wide enough, ie no unsightly armpit flab - that's the right definition of wider wires isn't it, ie they extend further around the chest rather than cutting in narrow?

So to summarise (because I can't afford to order 20 bras) - Cleos in general are narrower, correct? And Panache wider? Freya? (I like the look of a few Freyas but the fitter said they were very narrow?). My mind is boggled. And I don't have time to traipse back to Bravissimo for a few weeks.

That may have been the Panache I tried married but it was VAST and came so high up and over my boobs, even with my long torso. Definitely matronly.

Just realised John Lewis stock some of these brands, I might try them. Thanks again.

SorrelForbes Tue 29-Apr-14 08:02:42

The only Panache that really works for me is the Idina Balconette but I can wear most Cleos (sister brand)! I can't wear Freya or Fantasie at all.

this is a useful guide about narrow/wide bras but it says that Fantasie are narrower than Cleo confused. Shape of breast matters so much!

HazleNutt Tue 29-Apr-14 13:36:36

No way. I'm wearing a Cleo at the moment and it is absolutely, by far, narrower than any Fantasie and Freya models I have tried, no to mention Curvy Kate.

SorrelForbes Tue 29-Apr-14 15:13:52

Not just me then! My Cleos are so similar to the CH and CHPs Ewa bras I have.

amazonianwoman Thu 01-May-14 22:58:13

I am now the proud owner of 5 new well fitting bras grin blush

A Freya Deco Honey and a plain Deco in 36FF - amazing shape, can't stop looking in the mirror grin

A Bravissimo Satine flowery number in 36FF - great shape too and comfy.

A Freya Patsy half cup in 34G

A Freya Marvel in 34G. Nice but not as flattering so may swap this once I've tried out some Cleos and Panache. John Lewis don't stock them so may have to trek to Bravissimo again. I've tried the Cleo Juna in a few sizes, it just doesn't work. I'd like a black or darker coloured one - something a bit softer and prettier than the Deco.

Ditto most of the Fantasies I tried - they were just too full cupped and the lace on the upper half of all the balconettes I tried wrinkled unless I really stuck my chest out. The t-shirt type Fantasies were just too vast. Any suggestions?

Thanks to all my virtual fitters. It's a minefield but I'm starting to enjoy bras, probably for the first time in my life (not bad going for an almost 48 year old...

Bookworm04 Sat 24-May-14 18:34:48

Hi i currently wear 38a have just measured myself im 35 underbust and 40 at fullest part when leaning over so what size should i be wearing
many thanks

BookWorm try a 34DD, 34E, 36DD, 36D. The 34s are more likely

Bookworm04 Sat 24-May-14 20:11:39

Thanks statisticallychallenged for your reply. there is some difference in the sizes. Will try the 34DD and 34E and see how i get on
many thanks

Sophieelmer Sat 24-May-14 20:51:16

29 vs 37???

I can't find anything that feels right, I have lost so mush fullness post dc.

Can anyone help?

Start with 28FF, 28G, 30FF, 30F.

What are you wearing just now?

cyprusandhappy Sun 01-Jun-14 17:30:46

Hi, I have been reading this blog this afternoon and wonder if you can help me too smile
I have worn a 38b for quite a number of years, but now the law of gravity has taken over and they seem to have nearly gone. They just seem like saggy pieces of skin with no volume. Measured myself the way your described and i measure 36 underneath and about 42 across bust leaning over, what size would you suggest i try. Help sad