Have you used the Brazilian Hair Straightening / Blow-Dry Home Keratin Treatment from Amazon?

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nobodysfool Wed 22-May-13 13:11:35

I have read lots of threads about this kit and people seem to rave about it to reduce the frizziness in hair but I remember reading a while back that some contain formaldehyde and I concerned that this one contains it. I have read the ingredients but am unsure if formaldehyde goes by other chemical names?
Just worried I'll do damage to myself for the sake of frizz free hair.
Any ideas?

SofaCanary Wed 22-May-13 13:28:14

It works so well I'm guessing it's got something pretty nasty in it at some level. Totally worth the risk though imo blush

Sunshineandflowers Wed 22-May-13 17:49:19

I've used it last year and had it done for me again yesterday, have a hairdresser do mine at home.

No formaldehyde and it's brilliant stuff. Bit of a faff having it put on but the benefits are so worth it. I have mad frizzy curly hair that I straighten. Without the treatment it takes me am hour to wash and get my hair looking ok. With - 10 mins max to get it looking fabulous.

Is it difficult to do?? I ordered one yesterday, it's my 40th next week and with 3 dc (one newborn) my heir us up in a bun with quick straighten to the front as no time to ghd the lot every morning so hoping this will work wonders grin

Sunshineandflowers Wed 22-May-13 18:23:52

I wouldn't like to try and do it myself! Do you have a mobile hairdresser who could do it? Or a friend?

And the stuff is very pungent when it's being heated. You need to keep small children out of the way!!

hexagonal Wed 22-May-13 18:31:31

I used it once, I have long thick frizzy hair and usually straighten it. I wasn't amazed by it, the results weren't much different than just normal straightening, and it didn't last after washing.

Bother!! Dd will be at school and ds1 at preschool but ds2 only 3 weeks. How long does it take? I don't know anyone who could do it, just thought would be plonk it on, then wash it off <clearly no idea about hairdressing here!!>

JazzDalek Wed 22-May-13 20:00:13

Yes. It's amazing. But results only lasted 5-6 weeks for me rather than the 3 months that is touted.

I've enough left in the pot for another application, so am saving it for once I've had my hair cut.

Good value IMO even for 6 weeks of gorgeous, easy-to-style hair.

My hair is shoulder-length, medium-fine, wavy and frizz-prone. Keratin Kits made it feel like actual, normal hair, soft and swishy.

JazzDalek Wed 22-May-13 20:00:36

Oh and I applied it myself, it wasn't hard at all.

Sunshineandflowers Wed 22-May-13 20:00:50

It took my hairdresser 2.5 hours in total. I've had it done at a salon before and it took nearly 4 hours! I have thick hair just past shoulder length.

You have to wash it with the special shampoo provided. Totally dry it. Paint the solution onto the hair, leave 20 minutes. Blow dry the hair. Then straighten with straighteners, every section 5 times. If you don't get it dead straight it won't work properly. There is no way I could do the underneath or back thoroughly.

What about that 30 day stuff you can get in boots. My DD has used that and it wasn't as good a result but only took her about half hour.

StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes Wed 22-May-13 20:34:57

I used it a couple of months ago and it was amazing, my hair was all shiney, straight and smooth. Its only easy if you are confident with hair styling ie: able to straighten well. as someone else explained you wash twice with clarifying shampoo supplied. dry your hair or as I did just left it to dry while I did my housework and just finished off with the dryer. Then you apply the gunk, its a bit toxic smelling and can make your eyes water so need a well ventilated room. this is combed through and dried thoroughly. once dry you need to straighten small sections of hair running hot (ghds or similar that go to 230) straighteners over each section up to 7 times. I recommend getting a heat resistant glove (check out amazon, I got one for about £4.00) as it heats your hair and can burn your fingers as you do it as your hair gets very hot. once done you will have lovely straight smooth shiney hair BUT you cannot tie it back or clip it up or WASH it or get it wet at all for 3 full days. if you do you have to dry and sraighten again asap. choose a suitable time to do it as you will look like a grease ball by day 3 sad then you MUST wash it only with shampoo that does not contain sodium chloride so check the small print on your products as this strips the keratin back out and defeats the object. Once done, and tbh it sounds worse than it is, you should have smooth soft and straight lovely hair. I love it and am sat here a bit greasy looking as I did my second treatment yesterday. There is enough in the pot for two applications on medium length hair (mine is shoulder length bob) oh and get the refill pack rather than the starter pack, the only difference is that the starter pack comes with a comb and clips which you probably won't need or already have. sorry for the repetition but I wanted to give the whole experience from me. tons of reviews on amazon too.

StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes Wed 22-May-13 20:37:19

ps the boots stuff is not good, not for me at least. it was more like using perm stuff and dried my hair a lot without straightening it very much at all. I would use the brazilian keratin kit simply because of its effect on the shine and condition of my hair after... like new again.

nobodysfool Wed 22-May-13 22:36:57

Thanks all for your replies . I'm confident styling my hair as I regularly colour my own hair etc I was just concerned about the ingredient formaldehyde - or any other version if it being In the ingredients .any ideas?

StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes Fri 24-May-13 09:57:09

it says it is formaldahyde free but there has got to be some chemical stuff or it probably would not work and it smells quite toxic. But then again so does hair dye, perm solution etc... depends on your stance really. I think I use it once every 3-4 months, probably breathe in a shed load of toxins every day, eat / drink a shed load of toxins of some sort every day so unless someone proves it will shorten my life by x number of years (like smoking would for example) then I am not losing sleep over it hth.

janmoomoo Fri 24-May-13 09:59:05

I have used it and it is the business. I do it myself - if you are used to straightening your own hair you won't have any problem. It takes a couple of hours, and as above you can't wash hair for three days but I find my hair looks OK in those three days and I would happily go out. I am not worried about it making my hair poker straight, but it reduces frizziness and I still straighten it but it takes two mins, rather than 20.

Why are you worried about the formaldehyde issue? If it is because you are worried it will damage your hair then I would just say that my coloured over-straightened hair was dry, brittle and totally knackered before I did the treatment but afterwards it is swishy, beautiful and shiny. I think the clarifying shampoo and then moving to sulphate free shampoo and conditioner has had a big impact too, but the keratin treatment has transformed the condition.

StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes Fri 24-May-13 10:05:58

yup no worries about damage at all, like janmoomoo my hair has never looked so shiney and soft... except today as today is the day I can finally wash it after treatment... roll on tonight when my 3 days are up I look like a chip pan grin

LulaPalooza Germany Fri 24-May-13 14:07:18

StepAway / janmoo have either of you had a keratin treatment in a salon and, if so, is it as good as that?

I spend £££ on keratin treatments at my hairdresser three times a year. It's amazing and if you look after it properly it lasts for a good 4 months. But it's ridiculously expensive. If this home kit is the biz, I might try it.

By the way, you can use dry shampoo on day 3 if absolutely necessary

CrispyHedgeHog Fri 24-May-13 14:14:17

I absolutely love this stuff. I find it lasts about 5-6 months on my very thick, curly, frizzy hair. Once it's done I have a glossy, swishy mane.

I've had it done in a salon and this one is definitely better.

I would get someone else to do the back for you tho because if you leave any kinks then they'll stay.

LulaPalooza Germany Fri 24-May-13 14:42:34

That's helpful Crispy, ta.

Might get some of this and do my Mum's hair and then she can do mine.

nobodysfool Fri 24-May-13 18:54:22

janmoomoo- yes it's the health side of things that worries me as formaldehyde has been classified as a known human carcinogen.

Wenchelda Sat 25-May-13 23:17:27

Can you use this if you've got dyed hair? (And can you dye your hair in the 3 months that you've got this on?)

StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes Mon 27-May-13 18:33:22

oooh late back but if you are still around op YES I paid £180 for a treatment in a salon first time I was very pleased but second not so much. left it to revert to fluff and frizz and 'old lady' hair until I discovered this and actually think it is as good as if not better than the first time in a salon.

jan13 Mon 27-May-13 18:42:10

ive used this and its brilliant. ive used it 3 times now, you can really tell the difference when my hair starts going back to normal! it makes it so silkly, cuts down my time for doing hair and is so worth it. ive had my hair dyed different colours and it hasn't affected how it worked. i got shampoos from the body shop (rainforest i think?) which suited and i think they are in general better shampoos for your hair anyway. its just a pain doing it as it takes about 2 - 3 hours.

jan13 Mon 27-May-13 18:43:21

about dyeing your hair - you can dye your hair after using keratin but wait for 2 weeks until you dye it. its fine to use on dyed hair

Wenchelda Mon 27-May-13 19:24:09

How soon after dying hair can I use the keratin stuff? (My roots are going to need doing soon but I also want the straightening stuff so just trying to work out timescales for doing both!)

FattyMcChubster Mon 27-May-13 19:37:19

I have spent a fortune on keratin treatments that have not worked.
Bought a Matrix Opti Smooth for a fraction of the price and have had amazing hair since.
It's a chemical straightener like the opposite to a perm but I no longer have to straighten my hair (was like sideshow bob before) and can even leave to air dry! Amazing.
It will last until I grows out and hasn't damaged it at all. Infact, as I don't use my straighteners anymore, it's in better condition than ever.
Takes about 2.5 hours to do but more than worth it.

StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes Mon 27-May-13 20:05:29

wench colour first or do treatment then wait two weeks... decisions. i coloured mine about 4 days before and it was fine.

SoftKittyWarmKitty Mon 27-May-13 20:56:56

I use this and it's amazing. Turns my naturally wavy/frizzy hair into shiny, swishy tresses grin. I last did it in Jan and it just about needs doing again, so I'm going to order one soon. Even my hairdresser noticed the difference in the texture and compliance of my hair before I even mentioned I'd used it.

redhappy Tue 28-May-13 17:09:36

Those of you who've had this done at a salon, which brands were used? You can buy single use quantities of professional brands on amazon and ebay. I'm planning to do this, I just don't know which one to get!!

I got my friend who is a hairdresser to look at the one everyone raves about and she thought there would be much better quality brands available, it's just knowing which ones!

I just bought Coppola brand Keratin Complex shampoo and conditioner from ebay and I'm very pleased with it.

popsnsqeeze Tue 28-May-13 17:23:08

I bought one months ago but had to wait until I stopped breastfeeding, and then until i cut my hair.
Planning to do it tonight with DH's help...!

It's fab, plus dc3 is 4 weeks and not affected his bf

After reading this I have bought my kit from Amazon and am thinking today is the day. However I have a couple of quick questions before i start - did your hair smell during the three days you couldnt wash it? And for those of you who said you had greasy hair during the three days, would your hair normally be greasy without washing for this time or was this the product causing it? (I have dry hair that doesnt really go greasy so am wondering if therefore my hair won't look too greasy after 3 days). I have a night out planned on Saturday evening and don't really want smelly / greasy hair!

StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes Thu 30-May-13 08:47:08

I think my hair would be pretty greasy anyway but do think the product has made it a bit more so generally as it looks so smooth and shiney it appears to be flatter so shows the greasiness more if this makes sense. suprisingly it did not smell after being done, despite the stuff smelling quite toxic once hair was dry and straightened it wasn't lingering like a perm used to. HTH good luck

fuckitybollocks Thu 30-May-13 09:07:23

Has anyone used this just to smooth and defrizZ curly hair? I do not want it straight although could lose a little curl? I would love swishy hair though!

nobodysfool Thu 30-May-13 09:28:21

Wow thanks for all your replies! I have sent off for it and can't wait for it to arrive grin ill report back on how it worked in mine.

Thanks Eccles cakes, will be applying today.
Did you all do three days and three nights before washing?

JazzDalek Thu 30-May-13 11:07:49

fuckity I didn't, but having read pretty much every other MN thread ever about the product before buying it, there were people who did what you describe and were successful. The kit is not really a straightening treatment - the straightening effect relies on repeated use of irons, so if you didn't do that you wouldn't get straight hair. It would certainly defrizz you and increase swooshiness.

Merkin I did four days and nights - I had a free day and nothing to do so left it a bit longer.

fuckitybollocks Thu 30-May-13 11:36:13

So, would I follow the instructions just omitting the blow drying and straightening? I am off to search for any threads about doing this. Do report back all you who are giving it a go! Having messed up colouring my hair I need to remove it and re dye so I will not be able to use the kit for a couple of weeks.

I am clearly up for a go through - I cut about 3 inches off my hair this morning in an attempt to get rid of some of the dye and frizzy bits!

StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes Thu 30-May-13 11:39:50

merkin oh yes, seems that's the really important part but I suffered... oh how I suffered grin looked like I'd had my head in a chip pan so such a relief when the 3 days were up.

StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes Thu 30-May-13 11:43:49

fuckity on the instructions it says once its straightened not to get it wet or ties it up or anything as the shape its in is the shape it will stay in, so if you get a kink in the kink will stay. based on that I guess if you apllied it and dried it to whatever style you prefer then in theory it should stay like that but in lovely condition and swishy and shiney. I guess I don't really understand the science so no idea how important the heat thing is from irons.

My biggest worry is sleeping... when i wake up on a morning my hair is like a bees nest and don't really want it to end up like that permanently!

SoftKittyWarmKitty Thu 30-May-13 13:29:15

Fuckity I have naturally curly hair and as I said upthread I use this product and it's fab. I wear my hair straight sometimes and curly at other times, and find this product makes my hair much less frizzy when it's curly. If I straighten my hair it stays straight and doesn't go frizzy in rain or humidity. It's brilliant!

However, when putting the product on you have to follow the instructions to the letter or it won't work - I believe it's all heat activated, so you'll definitely need to blow dry your hair until the product has dried on it, then straighten it, then wait 3-ish days before washing again. When you next wash you can style your hair curly if you prefer and it will be less frizzy but it won't actually straighten hair as such because it's not a straightening product.

Someone asked if it smells - I'd say yes, it definitely smells on your hair. The first day or so is the worst, then it gradually reduces and after you wash it you can't smell the product at all. My hair didn't go greasy though. I tend to do mine on a Tuesday as I don't work Tuesdays, then wash it on the following Saturday morning.

StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes Thu 30-May-13 13:34:07

merkin with this stuff a) you won't wake up with a nest and b) if it does not lie smooth you just run the irons through again and its fine. honestly, mine was so smooth and sleek I did not need to do anything to it except run a comb through, the biggest problem I had was stopping myself from touching it all the time and acting like a girl in a hair advert. smile

fuckitybollocks Thu 30-May-13 13:44:19

Soft kitty, that answers some of my questions. I don't own a hair dryer or irons as I always let my hair dry naturally (with loads of gunk). Any attempt at intervention makes it frizzier. It sounds as though it might be tricky to do this.

Right, thanks to all your helpful answers I have just started on my quest for swishy straight hair!. Suspect this will take all afternoon - i have just washed twice with clarifying shampoo and now off to blowdry pre putting the treatment on. Wish me luck! Can update later if anyone is interested....

StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes Thu 30-May-13 15:15:41

oooh great, let me know how it goes.

Have just finished applying the keratin (took me 35 mins for long thick hair). Including initial wash and blow dry so far has taken nearly an hour (and the longest bit still to go!) The smell is strange, its not strong or unpleasant exactly it just gets up your nose and tingles. Will update again after hours of blow drying and straightening!

foxysocks Thu 30-May-13 15:39:43

I am so tempted but can't blowdry my own hair. Am shit at it, don't even own a dryer. I wash and leave to dry naturally then use ghds to straighten. Would this work or do you need to do the drying stage too?

Purpleknickers Thu 30-May-13 15:41:03

Washed mine today, the Keratin had been on 4 full days and nights and its now beautiful, much easier to blow dry and barely any need to straighten. I love it

Whatever you do make sure you follow the hairdryer on medium setting when you dry the product on otherwise it will really sting your eyes

Purpleknickers Thu 30-May-13 15:42:48

foxy you do need to use a drier I believe it is heat activated

foxysocks Thu 30-May-13 15:44:12

Argh. Maybe I need to find someone to hep me then! Thanks purple.

Foxy don't think you have to be able to give yourself the perfect blow dry, just be able to get it dry pre straightening iyswim
I have just finished blow drying. Eyes stung (even on a medium heat). Hair so far does not look at all glossy (feels a bit stiff/dry) - am I expecting too much at this stage?? Off to start straightening

Purpleknickers Thu 30-May-13 16:00:01

Notwith mine was crunchy until it was straightened

PoppyAmex Portugal Thu 30-May-13 16:05:06

NotWith don't worry, that's not indicative of the final result.

StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes Thu 30-May-13 16:32:03

foxy actually I just dried mine with the hairdryer not actually blow dried it in a style IYSWIM it was the straightners that did the full heat thing. for anyone contemplating it as you have to iron each section up to 7 times your hair does get hot, consider buying a heat resistant glove, I got mine off amazon for about £4.00 I think after my fingers got burnt the first time I did the treatment.

StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes Thu 30-May-13 16:32:58

merkin softness will emerge as you straighten

D0oinMeCleanin Thu 30-May-13 16:38:41

Has anyone used this before a holiday?

My hair is uncontrollable on holidays because of the heat/humidity + salt water.

We do a lot of boat trips, so lots of swimming in the sea breaks. I notice your not supposed to sue shampoo etc with salt in and obviously I wouldn't expect it to last as long, with all the swimming, but would it be worth doing at all?

I'm finished! So (with thick hair that is long - below my boobs length);
20 min wash x2 and blow dry
35 min apply keratin
20 min blow dry
1 hour straightening

I LOVE IT! It's swishy and swooshy! Lets hope it stays much like this when I wash it off on Sunday. Now just got to make sure I don't tuck it behind my ears for the next 3 days...

The blow drying with the keratin in takes much longer than normal and is hard work. I didn't style it or even really comb it while doing this, just rough dried it. For the straightening take Eccles advice and get a glove-I was too impatient to start so didn't have one and my fingers didn't thank me for it. I needed 4 sectioning clips to get my hair into small enough sections to straighten. Normally after blow drying my hair its quite flyaway on the top (even with using frizz ease) but I currently have no flyaway bits. And now it is dry it doesn't really smell, it smells a tiny bit sweet/sugary but not unpleasant.

Re holiday I read that chlorine and salt in pools/the sea strip the keratin out of your hair so it won't last as long. You would need to rinse with fresh water after each swim to try and prolong it

Anyway will let you know how it is on Sunday post washing. Can not say a big enough Thankyou to everyone who recommended it, give yourselves a big pat on the back! grin

D0oinMeCleanin Thu 30-May-13 17:21:52

If it just lasted the course of the holiday, I'd be ecstatic, would it last two weeks with salt water, does anyone know?

Guessing... But it's supposed to last 3 months if you take care of it. Assume in real life it only lasts 6 weeks then if you use the right shampoo and rinse religiously after swimming I would guess you'll get 2 to 3 weeks out of it on holiday

SoftKittyWarmKitty Thu 30-May-13 20:09:15

I haven't been abroad since I first started using this but salt water is supposed to strip the keratin out quicker, although I very much doubt the entire treatment would be lost during a holiday. I'm sure it'd be fine - just wash it every evening.

It definitely lasts three months for me, and I have naturally curly, pretty fizzy hair. In fact sometimes I can get to four months.

Don't forget to use sodium-free shampoo and conditioner, everyone who's done this!

CrispyHedgeHog Thu 30-May-13 23:41:40

Dooin I think the salt water would make it last less long but it would definitely hold out for the two weeks I reckon

I have very frizzy, curly, coarse hair which is past my bra band and it lasts about 5-6 months for me.

Pinkflipflop Fri 31-May-13 02:42:15

Does anyone know if you use this and then after a while use the GHD's to curl your hair if that is ok?

Would it undo the straightening?

Purpleknickers Fri 31-May-13 08:48:34

pinkflipflop it's not a product to make your permanently straight its the smooth it and stop it frizzing, so curling it will not harm the products you should just have smoother curls if that makes sense

Dancergirl Fri 31-May-13 09:20:59

I've just bought this from Amazon, haven't been brave enough to use it yet!

What's the verdict on blow drying? Like foxy I also don't own a hair dyer, I just use the GHDs. Will it work without or should I buy a dryer?

Purpleknickers Fri 31-May-13 09:42:56

Dancer you should really use a hairdryer the product makes the hair take a lot longer to dry and I believe it is heat activated

saycheeeeeese Fri 31-May-13 09:48:30

Sorry to barge in so late but I have very fine hair that tends to look limp when straightened. ..will this make it look flat or does it give frizz free volume?

Purpleknickers Fri 31-May-13 10:24:34

Well I have masses of hair ( think Cystaltips and Alistair) and mine is now sleek and flat just how I like it, so I'm guessing that yours will also be very flat when straightened

iloveweetos Fri 31-May-13 10:33:04

i wanna try this! im glad you dont need to blow dry straight as im terrible at it. looking forward to the verdict on sunday!

Dancer you will def need a dryer pre straightening. Could you borrow one?
Day 2 for me with the product in. Hair had kinked a bit in the night (I must do crazy things in my sleep) but literally a minute with the straighteners and its all flat again.
For those in the know- after you washed the product out did your hair look and feel the same, better or worse than it looked while you had the keratin on?

iloveweetos Fri 31-May-13 10:35:05

Also, what shampoo and conditioner would you recommend to use after?

JazzDalek Fri 31-May-13 10:49:39

Mine was gorgeous after washing out Merkin . I seriously have not had hair like that since I was 18 (before I killed it with years of straightening/bad diet/smoking).

I really need to do this again, but am experimenting with my new Babyliss Big Hair at the mo and liking the results from that, too.

PoppyAmex Portugal Fri 31-May-13 10:52:40

This shampoo is brilliant and the smell is out of this world.

I take it (and the matching conditioner) to the hairdressers and everyone comments on the amazing smell.

PoppyAmex Portugal Fri 31-May-13 10:54:37

Also, I keep saying this but I spent hundreds of dollars in chemical straightening in salons years ago and this home kit is just as good, providing you stick to "approved" shampoos religiously.

That was honestly the biggest difference, I had to restrain myself from using serums/oils etc and found the results lasted for months this way.

Purpleknickers Fri 31-May-13 11:08:42

Merkin Mine was washed yesterday after 4 full days and nights I used the shampoo and conditioner that Poppy has linked to and my hair is brilliant. I am absolutely loving it , its shiny and soft and just looks fabulous grin I love this product

StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes Fri 31-May-13 14:16:54

great Merkin <resists urge to say told you so> grin I had my first treatment (similar thing) at a hairdressers at VAST expense a few years ago just before a trip to Eygypt where i spent many a happy hour in the very salty dead sea snorkelling and it lasted so doin you should be ok, just as someone else said wash the salt out after swimming and use the right shampoo. I use sainsbury's kids shampoo that smells of cherry almond, its salt free and CHEAP. any old conditioner does really as long as its not got sodium chloride in it, currently favouring tresseme keratin smooth. I do have the brazilian shampoo and conditioner that is the same make as the miracle product but I don't think they leave my hair feeling as smooth after washing even though it dries ok. Yes fine hair could look a bit flat, I have loads of hair so this is not an issue for me.

D0oinMeCleanin Fri 31-May-13 14:54:41

Excellent. I will order some before my holiday.

I have to tie my hair back for work though, so will have to time it right.

<<runs off to FB to make sure co-workers know I am now booking my holiday 3 days earlier>>

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Fri 31-May-13 18:53:49

ok i need this in my life grin

a few questions... once its on and you dry it in do you need to blow dry with a brush or just rough dry with fingers? i usually dry over a big round brush. do i need to do that?

also, after it's dried and straightened and you leave it three days, does it go really greasy? are you allowed to put it in a bobble? what if it gets a kink in it before three days is up? what if i get caught in the rain?

and also can someone link me to a good sodium free shampoo and conditioner? is the one that's the same brand as the kit any good?

StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes Fri 31-May-13 19:03:16

bunch once its on you can rough dry then straighten painstakenly, yes you leave it 3 days at minimum and yes mine went very greasy but it would anyway as I usually wash every day or two anyway. so pick a time that's ok when you are not going out or at work, absolutely no to the bobble you have to keep it as straight as possible as any kinks will stay in. if it gets wet then you have to dry and restraighten ASAP, shampoo and conditioner... absolutely anything that does not have sodium chloride in the list of ingredients... see my post above for what I use ( very successfully)

StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes Fri 31-May-13 19:05:45

grin doin oh yes wise... I did mine 3 days before my hol and was minging travelling to the hotel the night before, could not wait for my morning shower before the flight then spent all day running my fingers through it people probably thought I was slightly weird!

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Fri 31-May-13 19:10:44

do you apply it to dry hair?

i have a full chunky fringe so i need to dry it in the style iykwim so would probably need to apply the stuff with my hair in the style.

so if i slept on it and it got a kink in and i straighten it again as soon as i get up it'll be ok?

Purpleknickers Fri 31-May-13 19:21:32

coconuts you have to wash your hair with the special clarifying shampoo that comes with it. Blow dry it then apply the keratin to small sections and blow dry again as you go. It feeks crunchy almost at this stage.Then you straighten it and it goes soft and sleek.

If bits go cranky when you sleep on it just straighten again and you're good to go.

I managed 4 whole days of no washing and the greasiness was not too bad. I did you dry shampoo on day 3 to alleviate it though.

I am very impressed with it.

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Fri 31-May-13 19:54:24

sorry im being thick here... so you apply it to one section then dry it then next section and dry it and so on? or apply to whole head and dry whole head?

Pinkflipflop Fri 31-May-13 20:26:35

I am also being thick!

Is it a straightening or a smoothing treatment?

If you have frizzy and wavy hair, will it make it permanently straight or give me smooth waves?

Purpleknickers Fri 31-May-13 20:36:10

Mine was applied to small sections and each section dried thoroughly before moving onto the next one. Not the whole head at once.

It's not a straightening product it smooths the hair, if you have frizzy wavy hair it will be smoother and less wavy. It also stop it going poomph in humid conditions or in the rain.

Just to add I did mine last sat, had fabulous and non greasy hair for three days, washed it and fab swishy hair for next two days. Then washed it and was very 'meh' until I realised this morning when I washed it I'd only used salt free shampoo and bit conditioner. This morning I am back to super smooth and swishy, literally 5 mins to dry and just straighten to shape. It's the stuff if dreams for me!!

redhappy Sat 01-Jun-13 09:27:25

I have ordered some, expecting to arrive today. I never straighten my hair so I need to pop into town and buy some straighteners. I've hot thick coarse wavy frizzy hair. I think I need ones that heat to 230degrees and I was also thinking I should get wide ones. Anything else? How much do . Need to spend for decent ones?

I've bought every type if straighteners all the ones claimed to be 'just lone' or 'better than' ghd's for me none are. My last two pairs of ghd's (taking no chances with my hair if getting caught out!!) we're £80 grin

Purpleknickers Sat 01-Jun-13 10:30:15

Well GHD'S are very good but over £100 do a search on here for threads about straighteners I think there was one entitled are ghd's worth the money and posters recommended decent much cheaper options

Good luck

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Sat 01-Jun-13 10:30:27

red i have tried many straighteners and imo you'll never beat ghds. if you want to buy them from a salon you'll be looking at spending around £100, depending on which models they stock. you can buy them from reputable online stores for less though. they really are the best.

Purpleknickers Sat 01-Jun-13 10:31:19

carrie I'm a GHD groupie too grin

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Sat 01-Jun-13 10:37:20

my first pair of original ghds were 8 years old when i upgraded to the mk4 version. i sold them to a friend and they are still going strong at 11 years old. my baby dropped and broke my new mk4s and ghd replaced for free with a 24hr courier service so as a company they are second to none and well worth the money. they'll last you years.

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Sat 01-Jun-13 10:40:30

im off to get some sulphate free shampoo on Monday then ill be ordering my kit. having lived with me and my hair for 8years, even dh is looking forward to this grin

I live my ghd's gringrin mine broke a week before Christmas so I ordered my spare pair as due to bank holidays u did not get the others back until beg if jan shock they were less than a year ok'd and were replaced for new ones. I had the original ones that caught fire shock and a pair if I think no 3 that lasted years and were the best!! Can't be without mind or I look like Aunt Sally <outs age>!!

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Sun 02-Jun-13 11:28:27

oreoaddict here smile

FrantasticO Sun 02-Jun-13 12:47:56

Thanks for bumping thread grin

My order in transit.

Excited!

Dancergirl Sun 02-Jun-13 12:56:59

Wow, all your results sound amazing, no wonder it's got such good reviews on Amazon!

My kits in the bathroom cupboard, I havent been brave enough to try it yet. I can borrow a dryer or get a cheap one.

Just to clarify - I am RUBBISH at blow drying my hair...so a rough dry is ok is it? And the straighteners do all the work?

ThePathanKhansAmnesiac Sun 02-Jun-13 13:11:55

Ok I,ve got one from Amazon, the one in the link up there:^.
I,m a bit concerned, the tub seem very small, and I have very big hair (chakka khan big) will it be enough do you think?.

StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes Sun 02-Jun-13 13:37:32

rough dry is fine, that's what I did, and I put it on all over once I had shampooed and dried then combed through and dried thoroughly before straightening. That's what the instructions said, you will there hours if you do it section at a time and probably run out of stuff, I was careful how I put it on, did that in sections then just combed through to make sure it was all covered. I have just above shoulder length hair and it did me two goes so should be enough for big hair, if in doubt get another. TIP don't buy the full kit get the blue box that's not a starter pack, the only difference is that the starter kit comes with clips and a comb. post back and tell us how it went.
shampoo only has to be free from SODIUM CHLORIDE not sulphates see up thread where I said what I use.

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Sun 02-Jun-13 13:43:16

at the moment boots have got two for £5 on tresemme and they have a specific keratin treatment shampoo and conditioner included on the offer. it is sodium chloride and sulphate free.

ThePathanKhansAmnesiac Sun 02-Jun-13 14:09:06

Ooh thanks. I think what'll do is wash it the shampoo, let it dry, straighten it with the ghd, THEN put the stuff on, blow dry each section and straighten eleventy million times, does that sound ok?
It will be less " big " and i think i,ll get it all covered.

StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes Sun 02-Jun-13 14:25:46

pathan just let it dry then put the stuff on, no need to straighten, I certainly didn't until after the stuff was on and hair dried. I also put all the stuff on then blowed my hair for ages until it was all dry, no need to dry it section by section that just sounds a faff. the crucial bit is the straightening after, yes eleventy million times smile or at least 7 watch out though cos your fingers can get burned as the hair heats up.

ThePathanKhansAmnesiac Sun 02-Jun-13 14:46:12

Ok eccles! I can,t wait. to see how it turns out. I,m doing it tomorrow, so i,ll post back then!.

StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes Sun 02-Jun-13 15:09:24

is it silly of me to get so thrilled at you all trying this! grin good luck pathan

PuppyMonkey Sun 02-Jun-13 15:14:56

I did this last year - still have half a jar of stuff left. Loved it but despite using correct shampoo it only lasted 2 months. Had it done at hairdresser too and same thing. Guess it's just my hair (which is thick and Irish, like megrin)

I now have a short slick bob which I turn under and tbh the keratin would make it too straight to work so I haven't bothered with it again.

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Sun 02-Jun-13 15:15:34

oh and those of you saying you burn your Di.gets... straighten over a comb, don't touch the hair with your hands at all.

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Sun 02-Jun-13 15:15:52

fingers ** hmm blush

StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes Sun 02-Jun-13 16:38:12

coconuts I tried that but think I have some issues with dexterity as looking in a mirror I just couldn't manage it grin

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Sun 02-Jun-13 16:44:16

oh you shouldn't straighten in a mirror grin you end up tying your arms in knots grin just use th mirror to help with your sections then just use the comb smile

StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes Sun 02-Jun-13 19:53:01

you saw me then coconuts grin

oreoaddict Mon 03-Jun-13 09:31:32

Coconuts, thanks for bumping this thread and pointing me in the right direction smile I've just finished reading it, still have a couple of questions.

I have very thick, wavy-curly, frizzy, long hair. It takes me roughly 45 minutes to blow dry and straighten. Actually though, I prefer my hair when I've done it to when I go to the hairdressers. Mainly because they make my hair look really flat, because they go over it again and again with the straighteners and it just doesn't suit me. So after reading this, I'm a little concerned that I will have this, but permanently confused As I've said in my previous thread, I have quite round face and flat hair makes my face look even rounder. I would hate that!!

Also, is it safe to keep using? Or should you give your hair a break between treatments?

oreoaddict Mon 03-Jun-13 16:12:48

Have to bump this again, sorry
blush

Sunshineandflowers Mon 03-Jun-13 16:33:50

Sounds like your hair is a bit like mine, only mine can be very curly and frizzy. Nothing like hair texture!

Had my keratin treatment done 2 weeks ago and I have proper hair! I wash it and if I leave it it drives in slight waves. But all shiny and smooth. 5 minutes with the GHDs makes it look lush. Straight but bouncy.

No reason not to use it almost continuously as far as I know. My hair is in better condition for using it.

Anything else you need to know?

Sunshineandflowers Mon 03-Jun-13 16:34:24

Dries not drives. It's great hair, but not that great!!!

StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes Mon 03-Jun-13 17:05:38

oreo it lasts up to 3 months if you use the right shampoo etc so no need to use it lots only when the full effect of loveliness wears off. If you did not like the effect or your hair was too flat you could wash with a shampoo with sodium chloride in it a few times and it would begin to strip it out again, but doubt you would want to.

oreoaddict Tue 04-Jun-13 09:04:35

sunshine, so did it make your hair look flat? I'm quite happy to keep a few gentle waves, but I don't like my natural curls cos they make me look like a poodle and a scruffy one at that. So many friends and family have said that they'd kill for hair like mine and that I should let it dry naturally, so I do, just to show them and they're always like confused 'ok, fair enough. I understand now' grin

Anyway, like I said before, I would hate, HATE to have poker straight flat hair, so I'm starting to wonder if this really is for me. Oh and can you really not tie It back during the 3 days? When I tie my hair back normally, I don't get any kinks or anything, but is this for a different reason?

StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes Tue 04-Jun-13 11:10:46

nope definately cant tie it back the chemical process going on would gine it permanent kinks. I doubt you would get poker straight flat hair but if it was too flat as I said earlier it can be washed in a shampoo with sodium chloride in and this will reverse the process. It only lasts up to 3 months anyway.

Hi I've just found this thread & this sounds like a wonder product!

My hair is collar length & very fine but I wash & straighten it every day or I look like a greasy mess. My hair is randomly wavy rather than curly - do you think this would be suitable?

Thanks smile

StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes Tue 04-Jun-13 14:08:04

yes!

Sunshineandflowers Tue 04-Jun-13 14:40:34

Oreo - no my hair isn't flat. I know what you mean because I hate that flattened to the head look bit it isn't like that on mine!

Hmmm, I'm tempted. Just need to work out when I can stay in the house for 3 days straight!!

Sunshineandflowers Tue 04-Jun-13 16:10:15

I didn't need to stay in the house, mine didn't look greasy. It was difficult to remember not to tie it back because I usually do that but it was fine. I straightened it morning and evening and that kept it looking nice (just a few mins).

oreoaddict Tue 04-Jun-13 17:12:07

Sunshine phew! I was starting to think I shouldn't bother. I know most people love the pump water, straight look.

I've been looking at some youtube tutorials and I thought their hair looked so greasy when they blow dried the product in. I suppose it is just for 3 days, but nevertheless, I don't think I'd want to leave the house.

Did someone say upthread that it's ok to use dry shampoo if needed? Oh and do you need to use a special kind of dry shampoo afterwards? I use it a couple of times a week normally.

Also (this may sound a bit extreme) I think I might wear a mask or something when straightening my hair. Does anyone else do this? If it's so toxic, you need to open a window, I think it's a good idea to protect yourself as much as you can, at least. Some of the woman I saw using it were coughing and spluttering at this stage, so it can't do any harm can it.

StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes Tue 04-Jun-13 17:39:57

probably a good idea to wear the mask but it got my eyes watering more than anything. sorry no idea about the dry shampoo, I have used it before but hate the way it makes my hair feel. mine was not greasy looking when I did the straightening bit, perhaps they used too much? mine was lovely and soft and shiney and so smooth I could not stop running my fingers over it which is why it probably looked greasy quite soon but then tbh it looks greasy after a day or two anyway if its not washed.

Goldchilled7up Tue 04-Jun-13 22:37:04

Can I use it to just nourish my hair? My hair is already straight, but recently it has been very dry and breaking due to colouring.

redhappy Wed 05-Jun-13 13:04:26

Would anyone be up for posting before and after pictures?

I'm doing mine this weekend, will try and post a pic before, and immediately after treatment finished, then a picture after the wash.

iloveweetos Thu 06-Jun-13 09:31:10

I'm gonna purchase it today! Scared to use it tho!

Hopasholic Thu 06-Jun-13 22:35:07

Well mine's come today! Quick question. I have very frizzy curly hair. I look like a mixture of Anita Dobson & Brian May if I leave it untamed. sad
Sometimes I use GHD's to straighten it but more recently I tend to use my Babliss big hair.
So question is....... Will I still be able to style it curly with the babyliss?

Purpleknickers Fri 07-Jun-13 01:30:21

Yes you will but you must leave it the full 72 hours before you wash it. It's not a straightening produce its a smoothing product. 2 weeks in mine is still soft and shiny but if I wash it the waves comes back just not all frizzy and coarse.

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Fri 07-Jun-13 12:21:27

mine is taking ages to come. angry

Pinkflipflop Fri 07-Jun-13 12:28:54

I would love to see a before and after picture!

Wenchelda Fri 07-Jun-13 12:54:20

I'm doing mine today .... Eeek! Not looking forward to all the faff but definitely excited about lovely shiny smooth hair by Monday :-)

redhappy Fri 07-Jun-13 14:15:52

Doing mine tonight. Well, my friend who is hairdresser us doing it for me. Minot using the same kit as everyone else, I found someone selling single use quantity bottles of professional kit so we're using that. Found a brand called innoar, it says you can wash after 24hrs, but I'm going to wait three days. Will take pics and post later! I have got LOTS of shiny stuff in my hair at the moment so the before pic will look better than it normally does!!

Wenchelda Fri 07-Jun-13 20:59:22

Right I've done mine :-) My hair is just below shoulder length and is fairly fine, but there's a lot of it (if that makes sense?!) It took just under 2hrs from start to finish, so not too bad. It was a bit awkward trying to apply the keratin at the back, so I can see why it would be easier having someone to help, but it was manageable and I figured as it has to be combed through after applying, I didn't have to be too accurate with "painting" it on! I used about 2 thirds of the jar, but think I could've done it with less, I was just a bit paranoid about not doing it right so probably used more than was necessary. It looks great at the mo, but then usually does when it's freshly washed and straightened. The real test will be on Monday when I can wash it ... Despite everyone's reviews, I still can't quite believe that it's going to be this lovely and soft/smooth/swishy with little or no straightening involved. If it is, I will be seriously impressed!

FrantasticO Fri 07-Jun-13 22:20:51

Mines is here but I have no one to help this weekend sad

Don't think I'd manage the back on my own though I'm very tempted to bung it on anyhow

How easy or hard to do on your own is it?

Wenchelda Sat 08-Jun-13 07:00:31

It was a bit awkward frantastic but not too bad. I did mine in small sections and did it partly by feel and party by using an extra mirror to help look in the mirror behind me. To be honest I just slapped it on wherever my hand landed and hoped for the best ... You have to comb through each section after applying the keratin anyway so I figured any bits I'd missed would get done when it was combed. It seems to have worked fine (though I'm not due to wash it out until Monday so maybe I won't be able to tell properly until then)

Pinkflipflop Sat 08-Jun-13 08:46:28

What happens if you accidentally get some of it on your scalp whilst combing through?

I have this sitting on my bookcase and I keep eyeing it up but am worried in case my scalp burns! shock

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Sat 08-Jun-13 14:34:46

did any of you do the patch test or did you just get on with it?

mine has just arrived... but need to do it when i haven't got the kids... Thursday. if i so it Thursday then i can wash Sun night so im all glamorous and swishy for mondays school run grin

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Sat 08-Jun-13 14:38:16

pink, re the scalp, i don't know is it that potent? surely the roots need doing?

also another question, after you'd all applied the stuff to a section did you leave that section hanging on your back or did you put it in a clip while you did the next section?

its going to be impossible for me to keep it off my skin because i have a fringe so i guess the scalp isn't a problem.

Wenchelda Sat 08-Jun-13 18:00:40

I didn't do a patch test - I regularly dyed hair so figured I'd probably be ok. I also wasn't that careful about avoiding my scalp and anywhere it did touch my skin, it didn't burn. It really really stinks though - not a horrible smell, just wry sickly sweet but it did make my eyes water quite a lot, despite being in bedroom with all the upstairs windows open.

When applying the keratin, I just left each section hanging as I did it, then blow dried the whole lot when my entire head was done.

Wenchelda Sat 08-Jun-13 18:01:36

* very sickly sweet, not wry sickly sweet. Stupid phone.

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Sun 09-Jun-13 20:27:18

I've dyed mine loads to so ill just get stuck in.

i was worried about it staining if i left it hanging but since seeing the colour of it im not so worried about that now.

i watched a couple of you tube videos and they contradicted each other as to how much to apply to each section. how much have you all used? has the hair felt dry/damp/wet after application before drying?

Wenchelda Mon 10-Jun-13 07:44:13

My hair was very wet after applying the keratin - more or less the same wetness as if I'd just washed it. I think I probably used more keratin than I needed to (about 2 thirds of the pot on my just-below-the-shoulder hair) but I was paranoid about it not working!

oreoaddict Mon 10-Jun-13 12:39:48

Oh I'm getting really confused with this now! confused

If it's just smoothing treatment, then why is it advertised as a straightening product?

oreoaddict Wed 12-Jun-13 09:08:04

Any updates?

iloveweetos Wed 12-Jun-13 16:08:01

So i bought this and too scared to use it haha!

Ive read up thread that the hair isnt overly greasy in the 3 days but can i really go to work like it!!! lol

oreoaddict Wed 12-Jun-13 16:50:04

weetos(another chocolate addict grin) this is actually what's putting me off the most. That and the chemicals. The idea of not really being able to touch my hair for 3 days and having it poker straight and flat to my head for that long fills me with horror! I know it's only for 3 days and in the long run it's probably worth it, but nevertheless, not liking that idea.

Oh and I've been watching a few more youtube clips, reviews etc and one thing that kept coming up on the cons, was that in general, it made your hair greasier. I would have thought because it's such an intense conditioning treatment, which essentially is in your hair permanently. Has anyone else found this? My hair needs washing every 3 days and that's with a dry shampoo top up on day 2.

Wenchelda Wed 12-Jun-13 19:31:26

Mine was totally fine in the 3 days - in fact I actually left it in 4 days altogether.. Was due to wash it Monday night but was going swimming Tuesday so didn't see the point. Waited until after swimming then washed it. During the 3 (4) days if say it actually looked better than it normally does. Not greasy at all (only very slightly by day 4), was lovely and smooth/straight but not flat. When I did finally wash it, I just left it to air dry - it still went a bit "fluffy" but nowhere near as frizzy & "big" as if I'd left it to air dry pre-keratin. Feels very soft and I imagine will only take a few mins with th straighteners, though I haven't felt the need to use at all yet :-)

oreoaddict Wed 12-Jun-13 19:51:38

wench how often do you normally have to wash your hair? Did you do it yourself? Was it really not flat? I can't imagine how it wouldn't be if you flat iron each section 7 times at least!

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Wed 12-Jun-13 21:54:50

oreo i am doing mine tomorrow. i have naturally quite oily hair and have to wash every other day at least so ill keep you posted how it goes.

oreoaddict Wed 12-Jun-13 22:25:58

Cheers coconuts. Hope it goes well!

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Wed 12-Jun-13 22:29:28

god so do i! its the 3 days im worried about. I've never been able to go three days without washing it. but in the grand scheme...

oreoaddict Wed 12-Jun-13 22:40:58

Yeah I guess. Do you normally use dry shampoo?

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Thu 13-Jun-13 12:19:43

im done... my conclusion...

clarifying shampoo smells lovely and cleans your hair very well. squeaky clean. but dry and difficult to comb after due to lack of conditioner i guess.

after initial drying hair was very dry

keratin was very easy to apply and a little goes a long way.

the clips in the box are very good and secure.

wasn't particularly difficult to dry afterwards either. maybe i didn't put enough on but by the time id finished applying to last section the ones i did in the beginning were drying by themselves.

after drying, hair was smoother but still 'big'.

after straightening, very smooth and shiny. doesn't look greasy at all but definitely feels like there's something on it.

i also didn't have any gloves in my box so i did it with bare hands. hands feel soft. i got it on my scalp and my face and no irritation. stuff smells like banana.

took about and hour and a half start to finish with just below shoulder length hair. but i am skilled in doing the back. not too potent when straightening either.

now for the difficult bit waiting til Sunday...

any questions? grin

LulaPalooza Germany Thu 13-Jun-13 14:02:33

Coconuts thanks for the summary!

My hairdresser told me that it's perfectly fine to use dry shampoo if you need to by day three. I did that last time with no noticeable problems.

I am definitely going to get the kit based on this thread. Thanks, ladies.

Wenchelda Thu 13-Jun-13 14:12:16

I normally wash my hair 2-3 times a week, no noticed any difference in greasiness or otherwise since having the keratin on (though I only washed it out on tues so maybe too early to tell)

My hair definitely wasn't flat during the 3 days - despite having to straighten it so much initially and a couple of extra times I get rid of kinks. It actually looked really good the whole time - in fact, I lasted 4 days before washing and I could probably have even gone one more!

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Thu 13-Jun-13 14:13:11

ill need to dry shampoo it by Saturday as its starting to feel a bit heavy already. i just have naturally oily hair tho.

Pinkflipflop Thu 13-Jun-13 14:18:28

How are people managing to shower/wash face etc without tying hair back?

Also, I got my hair coloured/ lowlights yesterday, how long do I need to wait?

Great summary coco

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Thu 13-Jun-13 14:24:03

you can apply on top of colour but be warned i was just comin on to say it has certainly lightened my hair by a couple of shades. it was a deep chocolate applied about three weeks ago and it definitely looks a lot lighter today. you have to wait two weeks after doing the keratin before you can re colour.

im about to go out in the wind to do school run so bound to come back with some kinks in. ghds are going to be on overload this weekend grin

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Thu 13-Jun-13 14:24:49

shower cap, pink?

Pinkflipflop Thu 13-Jun-13 14:27:53

I wonder would it turn highlights a yellowy colour?

Never thought of shower cap! I was panicking that you absolutely can't get any kinks in the hair, but you say you can just ghd it if you do?

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Thu 13-Jun-13 14:31:00

yes if it gets wet or kinked re dry and re straighten.

ill be using a shower cap as i have a fringe so need to jeep it off my face for washing.

not sure if it would yellow them as im brunette. how often do you have a colour? can you stagger it between your next colour?

oreoaddict Thu 13-Jun-13 16:05:58

Cheers coconuts! Sounds like so far, you're impressed. I think I'd be like you with feeling like I need to wash it sooner rather than later. I have naturally oily hair too, but then thinking about it, it could just be because my girlfriend won't stop touching it!grin She's been away for a few days and my hair feels much less greasy. I might have to mention it hmm

My hair is really long and thick. Do you think it might be a better idea to get some help? The only problem is, I don't really know anyone who is hair savvy, so it might be a bit risky. Tempted to get it done professionally, but then because I have so much hair, the price tag is going to be pretty hefty. Just don't know.

How do you know how much to apply though? They say don't saturate, but surely if you're covering your hair with the treatment, it's going to feel pretty saturated.

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Thu 13-Jun-13 16:18:50

if you're local to me i would do it. i don't know how you know but you instinctively know how much to put on. you can feel if its dry and doesn't have enough on. i too had the same worries but the brush makes it really easy to apply. you only need to dip the end of the brush in a tiny bit and spread it down. then smooth it between your fingers and you can feel if it needs any more.

if you section it well enough its really easy smile

oreoaddict Thu 13-Jun-13 16:37:24

coconuts that would be brilliant if you were! smile I bet you're not though, I live in Nottinghamshire. I haven't spoken to many nottinghamshireites on here grin

The idea of washing it just with shampoo and no conditioner, makes sense obviously, but my hair is inevitably going to look like a birds nest. I'll try to look forward to the end result at this stage grin

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Thu 13-Jun-13 16:57:49

you can't tell i haven't used conditioner because the treatment is so nourishing that's acted like the conditioner. so its like I've shampood and conditioned but dried it inbetween if that makes sense. its softer than ever now.

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Thu 13-Jun-13 16:58:14

im lincolnshire so not overly far but too far for this grin

oreoaddict Thu 13-Jun-13 17:01:00

damn [pouting smiley]

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Thu 13-Jun-13 17:18:46

oh and another point:

if you can't find the gloves in the box, like me, look on the back of the instructions grin

honestly oreo just go for it smile

oreoaddict Thu 13-Jun-13 18:09:37

Thanks for the tip coconuts. I think I just might smile I rang round a few local hairdressers today, just to enquire about prices etc and one place said "Brazilian blow dry? Well our blow dry is better than a Brazilian" hmm Thought it might be cheaper locally, but I'm starting to think it's all or nothing, as in, I either do it myself, or I go to a top salon and pay about £200! It's starting to sound like a no brainer.

God I wish I was friends with a hairdresser!

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Thu 13-Jun-13 18:21:54

honestly it isn't difficult smile

oreoaddict Thu 13-Jun-13 20:40:15

hmmm I guess I should just give it a go.

I know I keep going on and on, but isn't it really hard to keep it away from your scalp? Did you really not find the fumes too harsh?

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Thu 13-Jun-13 21:49:22

no honestly. it doesn't seem chemically. its just like a big pot of conditioner. less offensive than hair dye.

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Thu 13-Jun-13 22:04:18

and re the scalp... if you hold the section you're painting perpendicular to your head it's easier to avoid the scalp. but i definitely got it on my scalp when i combed it through and im not bald yet grin

oreoaddict Fri 14-Jun-13 08:55:16

coconuts, update?.......

Hopasholic Fri 14-Jun-13 09:29:48

Right! Today's the day! I'm having it coloured in 3 weeks so want to give it chance before I have it done.

My hair is boob length, naturally curly/frizzy and i don't really suit the flat as a pancake look so I'll report back (in 3 hours time I guess!)

Off for a shower to shampoo with the clarifying lotion.

oreoaddict Fri 14-Jun-13 09:40:34

ooooo Hopasholic, your hair sounds just like mine and flat as a pancake hair really doesn't suit me either, so really intrigued to hear how your hair turns out. Is your hair really thick too?

oreoaddict Fri 14-Jun-13 09:44:18

oh and good luck! smile

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Fri 14-Jun-13 10:39:02

well i woke up less kinked than i would have on a normal day its staying straight relatively well. not greasy at all really. shower in my shower cap quick o over with ghds on my fringe and that's that. still feels like i have product on my hair but doesn't feel dirty yet. trying hard not to touch it or tuck it behind my ears. not flat at all either. i can't wait for sunday grin

oreoaddict Fri 14-Jun-13 11:50:57

Yeah I bet grin It must be driving you mad not being able to touch it. I worry I'm going to end up looking like the girl from the ring confused if I can't tuck it behind my ears.

Looking forward to your sunday update!

Hopasholic Fri 14-Jun-13 12:47:50

Right then! Tis done!

The shampoo:
Definitely need to shampoo twice. The first application didn't lather up but the second one did. God knows what's in it but my hair has never been so squeaky clean! I gave it a good comb through beforehand as my hair without a ton of conditioner is awful. It combed through afterwards ok though.

I left my hair to dry on its own while I got on with a bit of tidying up then gave it a blast with the hairdryer.

Application
After doing the first section with the brush provided, I binned it off, just scooped some on my fingers and slapped it on then combed each section. It doesn't smell but did sting my eyes a bit. Didn't take as long as I thought ( probably due to slapdash method)

Drying
Took about 20-30 min. Didn't style it, as knew it was going to be straightened. Felt very nice and soft, even at this stage.

Straightening
Again took about 20-30 min. Easy enough to do. Hair gets very hot but I always straighten using a comb.

The finished look smile
Well it's smooth, straight, and very shiny. But sorry oreo it does look flat as it has been straightened within an inch of its life.
I do look like Morticia (Sp?).grin
I figure though, as I'm going to wear it either curly or tucked behind ears/fringe clipped back I can do this now and just straighten it at night.

Can't wait to see if it's actually worked in 3 days time or if I'll be back to the Anita Dobson look. I'll let you know!

oreoaddict Fri 14-Jun-13 13:16:57

Hopasholid, nooooooooooo! Not flat! Tbf, I just couldn't see how if you're straightening each section a million and one times, how you wouldn't end up with the pump water, flat look. Coconuts, what's your secret to avoid this? Did you use a comb when straightening? I never have.

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Fri 14-Jun-13 14:11:15

i blow dry over a big round brush to add volume and always straighten with the comb chase method.

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Fri 14-Jun-13 14:13:24

it probably does look flatter than it normally would today if im honest but you can't gauge how it'll look after the three days purely by how it looks now a its covered with a product. it isn't a true representation. when the product is washed out it'll be much better.

janmoomoo Fri 14-Jun-13 14:17:07

I have just done this for the third time, just before I go on my hols. I lurve this product. It usually lasts about ten weeks before I start to notice it is starting to go all big and frizzy during the day again. I will see how long it lasts on my hols but if it only lasts a few weeks I will just do it again when I get home. It really is a saviour from any kind of styling and palaver on holiday. Just shake and go!!

It is easy to do, the drying takes the longest and the smell is overpowering, but the straightening is not a problem if you straighten your hair normally. I dont find it gets too greasy on the three days and it doesnt smell. I do straighten out the odd kink and put it in a shower cap when I shower. I say go for it girls!

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Fri 14-Jun-13 14:17:42

when straightening you don't need to squeeze hard a gentle sweep is enough.

oreoaddict Fri 14-Jun-13 14:18:52

I've never been able to dry my hair with a brush. Can't get the angle right. I tend to just run my fingers through it as I dry. I might give it another go. Whenever I've been to the hairdressers though and they use a round brush to get volume (not that I need it at this stage) but as soon as they start straightening it and straightening it and straightening it confused all volume has vanished and my face looks really round! grrrrrr

oreoaddict Fri 14-Jun-13 14:29:45

Jan, what is your hair type normally? Just wondering because 10 weeks doesn't sound like a long time to me. Is it safe to use it more than every 3 months?

I've deliberately straightened my hair much more today to prepare me for what's coming grin I look a bit 90's grungy today actually. Think I've gone too far....

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Fri 14-Jun-13 15:03:07

but if it looks flat it'll only be for three days. after that you shouldn't need to straighten as much.

stop the procrastination grin

Hopasholic Fri 14-Jun-13 15:09:10

Oreo Have you tried Babyliss Big Hair?

You will not look back!

oreoaddict Fri 14-Jun-13 15:20:02

coconuts grin I will do it, I just want to be prepared. Or maybe I'm just a wuss grin

Just noticed how damaged and dry the end of my hair is. It's frazzled! If this stuff works, I will personally hunt down the inventor of this stuff (presumably I'll be travelling to brazil hmm) and I'll be giving them a big kiss!

oreoaddict Fri 14-Jun-13 15:21:57

Hopasholic, no I haven't. Mainly because I naturally have big hair, so I steer away from any product which claims to give extra volume etc.

How does it work?

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Fri 14-Jun-13 15:45:11

babyliss big hair was shit grin

oreoaddict Fri 14-Jun-13 15:47:14

grin just say what you really think coco

janmoomoo Fri 14-Jun-13 16:00:31

Oreo - my hair is below shoulder length, fine but naturally wavy and prone to frizz up and go big and puffy. Its not curly, just wavy. I usually notice it wearing off after 10 weeks but by the time it is completely worn off and I get round to doing it again it is usually getting on for four months.

In terms of whether it is safe all I can say is my hair has never looked so good. Before I started using this stuff it was dry, brittle, split and totally knackered. I had decided I was going to have to have it cut shorter and give up the GHDs (noooooooo!). After the brazillian treatment the condition is massively improved. I think part of that is down to the fact that previously I had been using loads of silicone containing products to try and tame/improve it, which the GHDs were then basically varnishing on. I had been doing loads of coconut oil treatments, but because my hair was basically coated in varnish of silicones it wasnt doing anything. Now that is stripped off, it is calmed down and smoothed with the brazillian kit and I am using silicone free shampoo it is just so much better, it is real swishy girls hair! Loving it.

oreoaddict Fri 14-Jun-13 16:18:41

Cheers jan

I'd describe my hair as brittle, split and totally knackered too!

It's really interesting what you were saying about the silicone kind of repelling other treatments. I was having regular(ish) conditioning treatments at the hairdressers and on the day, I used to think my hair was transformed, but as soon as I washed it, I realised it was more about the blow dry, styling and serums etc. I don't have them anymore. Waste of time and money. Bit of a con I reckon.

I like the sound of swishy hair girls hair! I've got really long hair, but I greedily want even longer hair if I can achieve itgrin I'm hoping that with the Brazilian, I won't need to use heat on my hair at all and so hopefully, will be able to grow it even more. I'm aiming for waist length hmm We'll see......

oreoaddict Fri 14-Jun-13 16:20:19

*swishy girls hair even grin

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Fri 14-Jun-13 18:20:13

lol i like to give an honest review grin

i bought the babyliss big hair on the mn recommendation and i used it a few times. im pretty good at doing hair but found it useless. i tied myself in knots with it and it didn't transform my hair or make me look remotely half decent.

Hopasholic Fri 14-Jun-13 19:18:39

I agree it's tricky at first! I used it on dry hair to get a feel for it, but honestly it has worked wonders with my hair! My hairdresser thought I'd deflected when I saw her on a night out. I think if you have curly hair, it works really well. It does take time though, so I'm hoping that this Brazilian stuff means I can just wash n go on the days I don't want to style it.

Have you ordered some Brazilian yet oreo?

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Sat 15-Jun-13 09:19:48

feeling a bit greasier today but nothing worse than usual. in fact it feels better than usual so perhaps it was my old shampoo that was heavy on.my hair. 24hours to go grin

oreoaddict Sat 15-Jun-13 17:14:03

Hopasholic, no I haven't ordered any yet. Will do though.

coco, looking forward to hearing your verdict tomorrow. Here's hoping you have beautiful, glossy, smooth , not flat, super shiny and conditioned hair! smile

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Sat 15-Jun-13 17:38:59

oh i need to wash this so badly! i look like a have a helmet on grin

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Sun 16-Jun-13 09:59:48

oreo you seriously need to order it now. i have just washed my hair and not needed to straighten it for the first time since straighteners were invented!!!

grin grin grin grin

no frizz what so ever. practically straight, and it feels amazing.

i used the tresemme keratin shampoo and conditioner and they are lovely and thick and creamy. the conditioner is light and fluffy.

i am amazed.

grin grin grin

YouCanCallMeBetty Sun 16-Jun-13 10:23:01

Hi all, been following this thread, did the treatment a couple of weeks ago. My hair is mega thick and wavy/frizzy, and now it's smooth, shiny and quick to dry. It's still wavy, but really quick to straighten if I want to - five minutes instead of 30.

Best thing is my fringe - before I'd have to blow-dry and straighten every day, but now a couple of minutes blast with a hair-dryer and it's done grin

So really pleased - only downside is my hair seems to get greasy more quickly, and needs washing daily, where before I could go three days easily.

Does anyone know if softened water will make the treatment wash out more quickly, because it's salt, and you're told to use salt-free shampoo? I have to use soft water because it's the only thing that clears my dandruff...

Overall really pleased though - to those dithering, just do it!

oreoaddict Sun 16-Jun-13 16:31:28

coco smile smile smile Wish I could see a before and after pic! You must be really chuffed.

betty You have to wash your hair every day now?! That would really piss me off. I've heard of this happening quite a lot and it would be enough to put me off tbh. I'd hate to wake up with really greasy hair every morning.

Has anyone else on here had that problem?

primallass Spain Sun 16-Jun-13 17:38:47

Ordered!

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Mon 17-Jun-13 10:06:22

oreo i washed mine yesterday nd certainly don't need to do it today. i have before and after pics...

oreoaddict Mon 17-Jun-13 10:32:32

oooooo coco, will you share?.....

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Mon 17-Jun-13 11:03:55

Oreo, I've PM'd you :-)

oreoaddict Mon 17-Jun-13 11:54:58

Thank you! smile

Helennn Mon 17-Jun-13 14:48:03

Coco, i am like you, straight hair doesnt suit me. Is it possible to have it frizz free but not poker straight? Dont suppose i could have a pm could I? Am genuinely very tempted. Thanks

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Mon 17-Jun-13 19:01:35

pmd you helennn

Hopasholic Mon 17-Jun-13 21:13:45

Well just shampooed after 3 days! Have to say, it's A LOT straighter then I thought it would be, can't quite believe it! Its straight but not GHD kinda straight IYSWIM. I haven't really styled it, just given it a blast with the hairdryer.
I am pleased with it though as it means I can just wash it and leave it to dry, which is a definite bonus on holiday.
It is very glossy and silky smile
I'll be interested to see if it will still hold a curl using the babyliss big hair or heated ceramic curlers.
Keep you posted!

(BTW I did clip my hair back as I just couldn't bear it hanging in my face, I haven't been left with any noticeable kinks, oreo if you're worried about it being too flat, I tend to take the top 3rd and use a claw type clip at the back which gives a lot of height on top preventing the moonface look!)
grin

oreoaddict Tue 18-Jun-13 09:15:21

Hopasholic, you must be happy with that! smile Glad to hear you weren't left with any kinks. I'm not sure I could bear not clipping it back either. Yeah, the moonface look, isn't a good one is it grin Glad you managed to avoid it.

I get the impression you think it's maybe a little too straight hmm You have similar hair to me, naturally, don't you? I don't think I'd mind it much straighter, as long as it looked healthy and I still had a bit of wave when I left it to dry naturally. Do you think you'll be braving the air dry next time? Do you have any before and after pics which you wouldn't mind sharing?

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Tue 18-Jun-13 11:43:26

Oreo, I left mine to air dry last night instead of blow drying and I was definitely left with a slight wave so definitely not poker straight for me. I ran the ghds through it this morning.

I was thinking that even if it does turn out a little straighter than you want id say its worth it to lose the frizz and the reaction to damp weather. I went out in the rain yesterday and my hair didn't frizz up at all and for that I am truly grateful grin

oreoaddict Tue 18-Jun-13 12:16:45

Yeah well I definitely want to lose the frizz. Just finished doing my hair and I am soooooo sick of it! It takes bloody ages! It looks nice when I'm done, but when you look at it closely, you can see how damaged it is. Does the treatment repair or hide the look of split ends? I have very dry ends, which I refuse to cut off because I want to keep the length grin Still aiming for waist length! The bits round the sides are especially split though. They're actually a much lighter colour than the rest of my hair because they're so damaged. Hoping this would help with all that. Am I expecting too much? confused

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Tue 18-Jun-13 12:19:44

No you aren't, it has drastically improved my hair. much smoother and sleeker. that's what keratin does. fills and smooths any 'holes' in the hair make up, iykwim.

oreoaddict Tue 18-Jun-13 12:23:36

coco I'm really impressed with your speedy replies grin There's no waiting around with you is there!

Did you have a problem with split ends before?

oreoaddict Tue 18-Jun-13 13:00:35

Well I take it all back coco, you've made me wait at least 40 minutes now grin tut tut

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Tue 18-Jun-13 13:11:04

grin

You've made it very clear that I am just lazy MNing all day!! Off to make lunch now, honest. maybe another ten mins wont hurt

yes I do suffer with split ends and often just lop off a good three inches to get rid of them so I'm hoping this stuff will help the ends and encourage some growth, to replenish what I chop off.

oreoaddict Tue 18-Jun-13 13:17:13

Haha! I think another 10 minutes could be potentially very damaging wink You won't find me getting stuck MNing! <<crosses fingers>>

Do you chop off your own split ends? Brave.

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Tue 18-Jun-13 16:35:34

No! shock grin I keep my hairdresser in business!

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Tue 18-Jun-13 16:36:35

Oh and I've just got drenched in the rain and my hair has dried quite kinky but no frizz.

Pinkflipflop Tue 18-Jun-13 16:39:00

Can I see the before and after pics coco pls?!

EuphemiaLennox Wed 19-Jun-13 10:32:28

I'm thinking of trying this, but I don't want poker straight hair.

I use straighteners on my hair every other day, but I use the them to give body and oomph usually curling the ends slightly under or out using the straightners to add to the body. My hair naturally is shoulder length very fine and flat but frizzy with odd kinks.

So my question is, does this product basically 'set' your hair in the style into which you add the heat and leave it for a few days? I'm guessing this is the case as you can't put it up tie it back etc.

So if I straightened it after application but used my add body flicky techniques would it set it into this style while the effect lasted or would I wash and end up with dead straight hair?

I'd thought a Brazilian blow dry was about setting your hair into a style to reduce need for styling, but this product seems to be about straightness, so do I need something else?

primallass Spain Wed 19-Jun-13 11:09:59

Mine has been dispatched but I am very worried about not washing it for 3 days. I might have to do the claw clip thing but my hair is very 'suggestible' and kinks easily.

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Wed 19-Jun-13 13:26:00

It certainly hasn't left mine poker straight euphemia. still quite wavy and thick but smoother and not frizzy.

primalass, the three days was my big fear but it wasn't as bad as I anticipated. wasn't half as greasy as I thought it would be. I did look like I had a helmet on on the last day but the previous two days were fine.

Pantone363 Thu 20-Jun-13 16:12:55

Ok have just done mine.

It's very very straight and no frizz at all. Very swishy! My friend did it for me, about 3hrs in all (v long hair) and I've got enough for another treatment left.

It's already bugging me having it down though

DisappointedHorse Fri 21-Jun-13 19:59:21

I'm about to spend £30 I don't have thanks to this thread!

My hair is wavy but not in a nice way. It's uneven and incredibly fluffy. I can't leave it to dry on it's own or even leave the house without straightening unless I want to look like a farm animal.

I have used every product on the market without success, except this!

One question though, I wake up with my hair vertical every day. Do you remember the Gorilla hair advert? That's me. Can I wet it, dry it and re-straighten?

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Fri 21-Jun-13 21:24:16

No don't wet it but you can re straighten.

Hopasholic Fri 21-Jun-13 22:16:43

Well I've just left mine to dry naturally tonight and I would definitely be able to get away with it like this for work! Yay!

Next experiment will be trying it with the babyliss big hair.

Post Treatment Top tips:
Remember you can't dunk your hair in the bath water to wet it if you have bubble bath in it.

Shampoo it twice each wash. The second shampoo foams up the first one doesn't. ( make sure you use the sodium free stuff & products)

Don't use as much conditioner as you did when you had a frizz bomb. Your gorgeous new locks don't need it!

Not a tip but I've been looking at 'up-do' videos on YouTube as it always seemed a waste straightening or curling it to put it up. But now I can as I have frizz free Barnett grin

Oreo have ye blooming done it yet? < stern look grin

macandcheesewithbaconbits Fri 21-Jun-13 22:32:35

Just done mine- can I keep it in an Alice band in bed?

Hopasholic Fri 21-Jun-13 22:57:05

Would advise against it as it may well stay that way!

primallass Spain Sun 23-Jun-13 09:05:57

I did mine yesterday. I straightened it a bit again this morning to sort out the bed head. I am dreading the next two days but at least we are forecast rain so I can wear my hood up on the school run smile

I think I will wear a claw clip if I have to see people and straighten it again straight away.

The condition of my hair is so much better already (it was a straw-like mess). I am hoping this gets it past the chin-shoulder length growing nightmare.

Purpleknickers Tue 25-Jun-13 10:33:11

Update on mine 4/5 weeks on its still easier to manage plus a HUGE bonus I went to a very humid country on holiday and it did not frizz once.

Usually I spend ages blow drying it and then as soon as I go outside it frizzes. This year because of the treatment I did not bother blow drying just embraced my waves and left to dry naturally with a bit of serum without sodium and it actually looked ok.

I cannot recommend this product enough

primallass Spain Tue 25-Jun-13 10:54:49

That's good to hear PK.

I am counting down the minutes until I can wash mine. It will be an hour short of the 72 as I can't face the pm school run looking like this. blush

primallass Spain Tue 25-Jun-13 14:00:20

Well all I can say is WOW grin

So worth it. I could have gone out without ghd-ing it, and I haven't touched my fringe, which has been my nemesis forever. I only ran the straighteners through a few bits after drying, whereas before Saturday I was having to hold them on some bits to stop them sticking out.

oreoaddict Wed 26-Jun-13 10:24:31

prima smile You must be happy with that.

hopas I've not done it yet, no blush I have been trying to find a mobile hairdresser who would do it for me, but had no luck. I think I'm ordering it today though.

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Wed 26-Jun-13 11:35:34

prima, i agree re the fringe. it's like i have new hair. for me, it is by no means straight i still have to ghd it but no frizz, more shine, so manageable and i don't have to worry about weather.

oreoaddict Wed 26-Jun-13 13:59:51

coco has your hair lost any of it's curl? I don't want it poker straight, but I'd like to lose the majority if I'm being honest.

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Wed 26-Jun-13 16:16:17

yes all curl has gone but it definitely isn't poker straight. still thick and volumised smile

janmoomoo Wed 26-Jun-13 17:35:49

Loving that you are all loving this product. I can do the whole treatment in under and hour now. I am happy to go to work with it on for the first day, so usually do on thursday night, go to work Friday, then wash off Monday morning. Its not poker straight but it is frizz free and utterly fabulous dahling!

oreoaddict Wed 26-Jun-13 18:10:47

Ok, just about to order. Just to double check, is it this one? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Brazilian-Straightening-Blow-Dry-Keratin-Treatment/dp/B003YUEF7C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1372266345&sr=8-1&keywords=brazilian+hair+straightening+kit

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Wed 26-Jun-13 19:27:12

can't click your link but judging the description yes it is smile

oreoaddict Wed 26-Jun-13 19:57:16

Damn! That didn't work did it grin So it's the one with the lady with blonde hair who looks likes she's using her hair as a scarf?.....

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Wed 26-Jun-13 19:58:14

yes smile

oreoaddict Wed 26-Jun-13 20:34:29

Ordered! smile

oreoaddict Wed 26-Jun-13 20:36:29

Fingers crossed I'll be joining your swishy, shiny gorgeous hair group, girls grin

freddiefrog Wed 26-Jun-13 20:40:58

I've got my eye on this too

Can I just ask those who use it, does it make your hair quite flat? I have fine and lifeless hair and when my hairdresser straightens it, it looks flat. I need to Babyliss big hair it with lots of mousse for volume.

oreoaddict Wed 26-Jun-13 20:45:02

Freddie, whereas I haven't tried it yet, I would suggest that if you have fine hair, it's probably not for you. Do you have curly hair? I think it makes your hair quite flat for the first 3 days before you can wash your hair. What is it you're hoping to get out of it?

freddiefrog Wed 26-Jun-13 20:53:10

I just want straight smooth swishy hair, but I need some volume at the roots

I can live with the first 3 days, I just don't want to end up with the straightened helmet-look that I get when my hairdresser straightens it

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Wed 26-Jun-13 21:08:10

Freddie, it prob will be too flat for you if you straighten it but it is certainly swishy and lovely enough to get away with not straightening it. and you can still use your BBH on it and it'll be lovely and smooth smile

it's worth it just for the deep condition it gives your hair. mine is in the best condition ever.

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Wed 26-Jun-13 21:13:52

and finally oreo!!!

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Wed 26-Jun-13 21:14:01

grin grin

freddiefrog Wed 26-Jun-13 21:21:47

Thanks

I tend to run my straighteners round the ends after BBH-ing it to smooth it a bit as it can get a bit wispy

I might have to give it a go

oreoaddict Wed 26-Jun-13 21:21:51

Well I like to be thorough coco grin

oreoaddict Thu 27-Jun-13 22:51:26

Oh, one last question yeah right My hair's really damaged and split at the ends. If I go over it 7 times, isn't it just going to singe and break off? Or does the treatment protect against the intense heat?

JaxTellerIsAllMine Thu 27-Jun-13 23:20:53

2 weeks wenchelda either before or after keratin treatment.

OP - I have used this and it is fine, I dont find it bad at all. My hairdresser did it for me last time but with this kit and I have had it done twice in different salons.

I still have some left so going to do it myself next time. I can do it no problem and I will get a friend to straighten the back bit for me if needed.

JaxTellerIsAllMine Thu 27-Jun-13 23:23:00

no, its keratin you are putting onto your hair, it coats it and replenishes all glossy niceness. grin

The heat seals it in/on and its fine.

Purpleknickers Thu 27-Jun-13 23:41:22

oreo I am guilty of singeing the ends of my hair a bit blush but since this treatment it's lots better so I think yes it does protect it a lot although I have also tried hard to not clamp my GHD blades together and just gently swoop them over and not pull so perhaps that is helping too.

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Fri 28-Jun-13 10:25:12

yes you don't need to squeeze and pull. just gently glide.smile

oreoaddict Fri 28-Jun-13 10:43:27

Jax, thanks. That's what I was hoping. There's just something which I know is going to feel really wrong, about going over my hair that many times. I feel quite sorry for it grin

Purple, do you still use your GHD's regularly then? I'm hoping to just be able to blast it with a hairdryer and ditch the GHD's, for a while, at least.

And another question (told you it wouldn't be the last blush) When you brush on the keratin, do you put less on towards the roots? I would have thought it's quite tricky to keep it away from the scalp. When you comb it through, as they tell you to, do you re use the complex left on the comb? I would have thought if you didn't, that you would end up with less keratin towards the ends, which is where I need it most. Does that make any sense?...... hmm

oreoaddict Fri 28-Jun-13 10:45:25

Oh and it's arrived btw! I'm nearly in the club coco smile

JaxTellerIsAllMine Fri 28-Jun-13 10:49:32

oreo - you comb it through and reuse whats on the comb. It sounds more complicated than it is. The comb is v fine so you get an even distribution of product.

oreoaddict Fri 28-Jun-13 11:00:41

Ah ok. Sorry, I'm probably being really dumb here grin but when you say reuse, do you mean you just put it straight back on your hair, or back in the pot?

Oh and how many of you have actually done the 48 hour skin patch test? I've just done mine and was a bit worried cos I was a tad itchy sad

Purpleknickers Fri 28-Jun-13 11:38:48

oreo yes I still actually blow dry and then smooth again with GHD's but then I have REALLY thick REALLY frizzy hair.
Having said that it used to take me a full hours struggle and now its easy and circa 25 mins

oreoaddict Fri 28-Jun-13 15:27:17

purple, I've also got really thick and frizzy hair. It normally takes me about 35- 40 minutes to dry and then another 20 minutes to straighten. I honestly don't know how hair dressers do it all day! I only have to do it 2 or 3 times a week and my arms are knackered grin So what would your hair be like if you let it air dry now? Are you happy with the results overall? Do you feel like your hair gets greasier quicker now?

JaxTellerIsAllMine Fri 28-Jun-13 18:03:33

The last time I had mine done we went on holiday a week later. I just did the wash & go thing. Sun dried my hair & it was perfect. The only but I had to dry was my fringe.

Hopasholic Fri 28-Jun-13 20:24:45

Quick update from me!

So hair has most definitely lost its natural curl but it is so easy to manage. The BBH left it more voluminous rather than curly as it was before, but I can also leave it to dry naturally and use ceramic rollers which only takes 10 min and looks fab! I can either wash n go or spend a bit longer with a proper blow dry if im going out. Thoroughly recommend!

Oreo c'mon! Or I'm gonna make you change your nickname to 'procrastinator!'

carriedaway Fri 28-Jun-13 23:30:48

I have been watching this thread with a mixture of disbelief and hope - sadly my nickname of "bush-head" at school was all too apt sad my kit has come and planning to do it tomorrow. Please excuse this very thick question but please could someone clarify if I should use the special shampoo and then NOT my normal conditioner before doing the treatment? Ie does the keratin count instead of conditioner or not??

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Sat 29-Jun-13 09:28:13

that's right. use the clarifying shampoo provided in the kit and no conditioner smile

Hopasholic Sat 29-Jun-13 11:03:04

Let us know how you get on *Bushhead* Carriedaway

carriedaway Sat 29-Jun-13 11:10:31

Thank you, will do smile

Purpleknickers Sat 29-Jun-13 12:03:30

oreo now if I leave my hair to air dry its wavy and slightly curly no frizz at all. On holiday I just put some serum on it that is compatible with the product and left it. It looked perfectly acceptable whereas in previous years I would die rather than go out without doing my hair properly. As for it being greasy now , no not at all I still wash it every 3 days same as before.

Sounds like we have the same hair, go for it. I confess I had the product nearly a year before I was brave enough to use it, so we are alike in that respect too.

carriedaway Sat 29-Jun-13 23:58:31

Done - nothing scary & feels nice and soft already. Thanks to the person who mentioned that the gloves are on the back of the instructions! blush May have missed it but was not prepared for the magic potion to smell EXACTLY like the Brazil nut toffee one from quality street - very distracting when they're your favourites! grin

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Sun 30-Jun-13 11:34:15

carriedaway that was me! i couldn't find mine and did it without them grin found them on the instructions afterwards! blush

DisappointedHorse Sun 30-Jun-13 12:32:53

I've ordered mine! The thought of being able to just blast it dry on holiday or even leave it to dry has me a bit excited! I'll do it next weekend if its arrived by then.

Which shampoos are you all using?

Hopasholic Sun 30-Jun-13 13:43:42

I use this one with the conditioner and serum in the same range. Bought mine from amazon as I'm a prime customer (free delivery and needed next day) but they sometimes do offers in boots. It smells really nice.

www.boots.com/en/Organix-Brazilian-Keratin-Therapy-Shampoo-385ml_1222270/

oreoaddict Mon 01-Jul-13 18:20:39

Ok, done! smile smile

Well it took the full 3 hours and my arms really did cramp, but yep, I agree, it's definitely worth it.

The clarifying shampoo made my hair soooo squeaky clean. Was a little worried it was going to be really big and frizzy without the conditioner, but obviously, that was only a temporary side effect. Actually though, it wasn't that bad. It was frizzy yeah, but it wasn't as frizzy as it would have been just using a normal shampoo and no conditioner.

So I have to confess, I was embarrassingly really nervous about putting in the treatment, because I felt completely clueless and I have so much hair! I just didn't know where to start! I kept it about 2 cm away from my scalp cos I was really paranoid about my hair getting greasy. At this stage I couldn't see how this could try not greasy. My hair was completely saturated, but I was trying to make sure that it wasn't. I used just over 3/4 of the tub, which surprised me cos I have really long, really thick hair so assumed I'd use it all.

I waited about 25 minutes and then I began to dry my hair. Ok, this bit's the worst bit. Yes, I had warnings that your eyes sting, but my god! My eyes streamed! and when I breathed it in, it was so strong. I actually felt like I'd done myself some damage and I'll definitely be invested in some kind of mask next time. Eventually I just kind blind dried my hair, which was actually fine. It felt crunchy before I dried, but as soon as the heat hit it, it actually felt quite soft and smooth. I still can't get how my hair doesn't feel heavy and greasy after all that treatment, it's weird, but it just doesn't.

By this stage I could already feel my hair was in better condition. The straightening was fairly straight forward, although I sectioned it into really small pieces, so as I said before, it took a looooong time. I used the heat 'resistant' gloves, but for me, the heat still got through and they just irritated me, so I abandoned them in the end. My fingers weren't too bad though.

My hair feels clean, smooth, but yeah, it is a tad flatter than I'd usually wear it. It's not terrible though! My GF say's she'll go out with me tonight, so it can't be that bad grin Oh and I'm not finding it too hard not tying it back, or putting it behind my ears, which is something I thought I'd really struggle with. It's only been a few hours though confused

I'll report back after the first wash.

smile

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Mon 01-Jul-13 18:41:12

oh oreo yay!!! grin you've finally done it!

it definitely won't be flat after the initial wash in three days.

i was just coming on to ask how realistic the 12 weeks is? mine has been on for maybe 3 and feels like its wearing off quite quickly.

and my scalp isn't in very good condition. it has gone really flaky confused and i can't use a special shampoo for that or it'll strip the keratin.

i have a haircut booked for Monday and im not going to tell her I've done it Im going to see if she can see an improvement in.my hair without me saying what I've done.

Hopasholic Mon 01-Jul-13 21:20:10

Woohoo! grin no need to change your nickname after all!

Glad you're happy with it though smile

I'm also having mine cut and coloured this weekend as the greys are taking over........ If only I could solve that one too......

Happy swishing fellow Brazilians!

DharmaLovesDraco Tue 02-Jul-13 08:29:02

Dear god I've bought it too, you are all clearly a bad influence!

I have a question though, if I put it on Friday morning can I wash it Sunday or is it best to wait until Monday morning?
Presumably I won't be able to exercise whilst its on either as I sweat alot

oreoaddict Tue 02-Jul-13 08:53:32

coco nooooooooooooo! It's wearing off already confused That sucks! Did you have dandruff before you had the Brazilian? I'm a bit worried cos I always used to use head and shoulders, so I guess we'll see.

Hopasholic, no, no need to change my nickname grin Yeah, I'm happy with it so far, but feeling a tad greasy this morning and it's definitely flatter than it was yesterday. Think I'm going to struggle not tying it back tomorrow.

Draco, you need to wait 72 hours, so definitely don't wash it on sunday or you'll be undoing all your hard work! Good luck!

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Tue 02-Jul-13 10:07:25

its not even dandruff i have now it's like my scalp is scabby envy <--- vom!

and yeah feels like it definitely is curling and kinking more.

oreoaddict Tue 02-Jul-13 10:17:35

That's weird. I haven't heard of that being a side effect before. How much of the pot did you use? What shampoo and conditioner are you using? I've heard 10 weeks is more realistic than 12, but 3?! Let's be honest, that's taking the piss really! So is it frizzing too? Or is it just curling more?

I have to confess, I've already caved with the typing back blush Well actually, I've bobby pinned it off my face at the sides. It was doing my head in this morning and I really did look like the girl from the ring confused Not a good look! I'm just going to straighten in again when I take the pins out later.

Not looking forward to tomorrow. Think I'll be doing the school run incognito grin

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Tue 02-Jul-13 10:21:33

i used just under half but i could have used more. im using the tresemme keratin one.

it isn't frizzing at the mo but it is going a bit fluffy in the rain/damp.

oreoaddict Tue 02-Jul-13 11:13:57

hmmmm bizarre. Do you think you'll put more on next time?

I was going to use the Brazilian Organix range, but I heard some bad reviews so I'm not sure now.

With the sodium free shampoos, do you not get a lather? I usually wash my hair once otherwise it goes really fluffy and actually, it doesn't usually last as long, so I should I wash my hair twice with this stuff? Oh and I remember someone saying that you need to use less conditioner than you used to because your hair doesn't really need it. How much less?

oreoaddict Tue 02-Jul-13 11:15:00

Oh and I meant the organix shampoo btw

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Tue 02-Jul-13 11:20:49

i get a good lather with the tresemme one and only wash it once.

and yes i use about half the conditioner i used to use before.

oreoaddict Tue 02-Jul-13 12:10:59

ah ok. Just got a free sample from my local hairdressers of the joico sulphate free shampoo and conditioner. Guess I'll give this a go first considering it's free!

MustTidyUpMustTidyUp Tue 02-Jul-13 14:45:20

Have been lurking for a while. Think I might take the plunge... Having a cut and highlights next week so will wait until after but could do without being a frizz ball for 10 days when I go on hol in August.
Have the same concerns as some of you re I hate my hair v straight and like it big and bouncy. But would like to eliminate the frizz and for it to be acceptable without a daily blow dry esp when I can't be arsed on holiday.
So, I think you've convinced me that t won't be flat as a pancake after first wash. Best order then.

oreoaddict Tue 02-Jul-13 16:33:03

must yeah give it a gosmile

Another question- Did anyone re straighten their hair, even if it hadn't kinked? I read a couple of reviews where people said they re straightened on day 2 and 3 just to make sure the treatment had really penetrated the hair. Oh and did everyone else did really small sections? I didn't, but I went over it 7 times as recommended, but I'm not wondering if the sections were small enough.

MustTidyUpMustTidyUp Tue 02-Jul-13 21:04:22

oreo watch this
He uses very small sections.

MustTidyUpMustTidyUp Tue 02-Jul-13 21:04:46

Anyone done this straight after highlights?

oreoaddict Wed 03-Jul-13 13:45:06

Must thanks for the link. I think you have to wait a week or 2 before you colour your hair.

I have one more day before I can wash my hair. Really excited because right now, I look like someone has just painted my hair on. Was supposed to be going out tonight.......think I'll cancel. Can't remember if you can use dry shampoo at the roots or not.

oreoaddict Wed 03-Jul-13 13:46:20

Must, read your post wrong. Yeah, I think you can do it straight after colouring.

MustTidyUpMustTidyUp Wed 03-Jul-13 13:46:54

Can use it on third day apparently.

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Wed 03-Jul-13 21:39:05

You can colour two weeks after keratin application but can apply keratin straight after colour. if that makes sense.

Yes to dry shampoo oreo. I used loads lol grin

Hopasholic Wed 03-Jul-13 22:48:58

I can tell mine is wearing off too sad just shy of 3 weeks.

However I forgot to leave it on for a while before blow drying, ( don't think it says to in the instructions but notice others have left it for 20 min or so) bit over enthusiastic I think grin so maybe that's why.

It's not back to its pre treatment frizz bomb but definitely curlier than it was after application.

I used 3/4 of the pot. As I'm having it coloured on Saturday, I don't want to do it again before my holiday which is on two weeks so by then I guess I'm gonna have the Monica holiday Barnett sad

Bugger

MustTidyUpMustTidyUp Wed 03-Jul-13 22:56:09

Which product did you use hopa? The amazon one?
How are the rest of you finding it lasts?

oreoaddict Thu 04-Jul-13 09:04:55

Hopas sad sad What's going on?! I thought this stuff was supposed to be a miracle. Not sure how important it is to leave it on beforehand. I guess they tell you to for a reason, but then if it's in your hair for 3 days anyway, I can't imagine it making much difference. How often do you wash your hair? Tbh, I don't mind the curl coming back so much, it's just the frizz I'm worried about. I really want to be able to ditch or at least cut down my usage of the GHD's because my hair is crying out for a break. Do you exercise a lot? I was thinking last night, that if I work out and sweat, isn't the salt going to effect the results? I used about 3/4 of the tub too and I'm worried I didn't use enough.

Wash day today! I'm excited, but after reading hopas and coco's results, I'm a little deflated. I guess we'll see...........

Hopasholic Thu 04-Jul-13 13:39:06

Hope all goes well with the big reveal oreo

I wash it approx every 3 days. After washing it this morning, I blow dried it and didn't need straighteners, and it's still very smooth. Earlier in week I left it to dry naturally and would say that this was when I noticed the curl returning.

I would still recommend this product though, I would never have been able to blow dry it like this before treatment.

Hopasholic Thu 04-Jul-13 13:41:53

Yes. musttidyup < which is what I should be doing, the Amazon one

oreoaddict Thu 04-Jul-13 13:44:29

Ok, so washed my hair. I have to say when I first started drying it, I could still see a fair amount of frizz, but when it was completely dry, it looked really smooth, shiny, straightish and almost frizz free. I haven't needed to use my ghd's at all, which I'm really happy about.

I really hope this lasts. I decided last minute to order some of the keratin kits shampoo and conditioner and my hair feels very clean. I was concerned that the salt free shampoo wouldn't clean my hair as thoroughly, but it has.

I guess only time will tell if it lasts the full 3 months, but at the moment I'm very happy with the results.

Are you still supposed to use heat protective spray though? Or does the keratin kind of work as a built in? heat protector?

Purpleknickers Thu 04-Jul-13 13:53:13

oreo I use keratin heat protector on it, I would never let GHD's near my hair without heat protector

I am now 6 weeks in and results are still good smile

Nagoo Thu 04-Jul-13 14:27:35

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oreoaddict Thu 04-Jul-13 16:02:24

purple 6 weeks and still good results!smile Whoohoo! What shampoo and conditioner do you use? Tbh, I think I'd be more than happy if I get 2 months out of it. I think 3 months is possibly unrealistic. I've read some reviews where they say they've got at least 6 months out of it! I would be over the moon! grin

Which brand of heat protective spray do you use? Didn't know they did keratin ones.

oreoaddict Thu 04-Jul-13 16:04:08

Nagoo, well said! grin

Hopasholic Thu 04-Jul-13 16:06:55

Ooh this thread made it into the mumsnet 'swears by' Email.

nagoo are you spying on our swishy hair? Don't be shy...... grin

<cricks neck due to excessive swishing>

Nagoo Thu 04-Jul-13 16:31:35

Sorry grin I needed to mark my place before I ran off to school grin

I am going to have a good old read now.

I am interested since bleaching the fuck out of my hair in al ill-advised ombre attempt I would like to not have to chop off all the frizzy bits hmm

Nice swish Hops grin

DisappointedHorse Thu 04-Jul-13 18:57:04

Ok, I am halfway through. I've just washed and dried my hair with the clarifying shampoo and about to embark on stage 2.

The clarifying shampoo has made my hair feel really soft and bouncy!

Purpleknickers Thu 04-Jul-13 19:03:55

oreo the organix Brazilian keratin shampoo and conditioner same brand heat protector.
If you got your kit on amazon just look at the bit where that say customers that bought this also bought this .. If you know what I mean? There are loads of products recommended

I'm hoping for at least 3 months out of mine

oreoaddict Thu 04-Jul-13 19:06:31

Horse, yeah I was impressed with the clarifying shampoo actually. I was expecting it to leave my hair really big and frizzy, but it didn't. Let us know how you get on smile

DisappointedHorse Thu 04-Jul-13 19:46:58

Right now I'm waiting to start drying it and its making my eyes sting like crazy. The innocuous and pleasant smell is now less so.

It also feels slightly burny on my scalp, no worse than hair dye though. And no of course I didn't do a patch test.

awaywego1 Fri 05-Jul-13 11:09:20

Hey ladies-quick bit of advice if possible?
I've got very thick coarse wavy hair with a thick shortish fringe. I've used a keratin treatment before and it worked well-made it more manageable rather than straight. I'm going camping this week and don't have time to do it all really as it takes ages with my hair but wondering if I could just do my fringe? Or would that look wierd and/or not work? I can tie my hair back into a bun but its the fringe that looks horrendous without straightening! Any thoughts gratefully received grin

oreoaddict Fri 05-Jul-13 12:20:46

Hmm not sure just doing your fringe would look right. I'd just go over your hair with straighteners for now and then do the whole treatment when you get back.

DisappointedHorse Fri 05-Jul-13 15:22:46

Ok I'm all done.

It took a while but my hair is smooth and shiny now. I didn't wake up with vertical hair this morning so it looks ok even on day 2 with a bit of help from my GHDs.

The worst part was blow drying it, my eyes and throat were really sore. The fumes were dreadful! Straightening it was ok though. It did look slightly fluffy after I'd re-straightened it this morning so I whacked on a bit more keratin on some parts and repeated. Hopefully it'll be ok!

Right now, it doesn't look much different to how it usually looks when I've washed and straightened it. The proof will be after I've washed it. I'd be happy if its not totally straight, just not to have to battle with the hair straighteners for half an hour a day to get rid of the fluff.

oreoaddict Sun 07-Jul-13 11:43:47

horse, yeah I found the fumes really bad too. At one stage I didn't think I could carry on because my eyes were streaming so much, but eventually I just shut my eyes and also, I didn't breathe through my mouth.

Not sure if it should have looked fluffy after you'd done the treatment and I'm not sure if it's ok to put more keratin on. Did you feel like you hadn't put enough on before?

My hair is definitely greasier since doing this treatment, but it's worth it because the condition is so much better. It kind of feels greasier than it looks iyswim. I'm just going to get through a hell of a lot of dry shampoo!

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Mon 08-Jul-13 18:49:20

had my hair coloured and cut today. hairdresser was impressed with condition and manageability of my hair. she uses a different Brazilian blow dry when she does clients and the one she uses can be washed within an hour and is from France. ill get a link...

Hopasholic Mon 08-Jul-13 22:41:30

Oooh! Sounds interesting coconuts. My hairdresser said same about the condition of mine. She uses one called 'La Braziliana'
<not sure if it's spelt like that though>

carriedaway Tue 09-Jul-13 11:31:20

'Bush head' reporting in!
Well it has been a week now since I washed off and I am really pleased!
Don't know what I do when I'm asleep but I had bed hair every morning when the keratin was on so had to do squill straighten to look presentable. It felt fine & didn't look too greasy til the last day when I just put some dry shampoo on the front and it was fine. I usually have to out a lot of serum on and was worried about going without but it didn't need it.
I washed off after my couch25k run (bloody mumsnet inspiring me to better myself grin) and quickly blasted it before tea. Usually that would mean frizz overload but it was only a tiny bit frizzy and then smoothed very easily when I ran the straighteners over it.
I am using the tresemme keratin shampoo and conditioner and actually feel it had improved over the subsequent washes. It is a bit flatter than before but I have thick hair and just dry it upside down and that seems to do the trick. My hair definitely feels swishier, softer and in better condition. It is overdue a cut and I think it will be even better after that (will be interested to see if my hairdresser notices)
A few people have commented that it looks nice without promoting and DH, who thought it was a waste of time, has begrudgingly agreed that it has worked!
The best thing for me is that it is now so quick to straighten and look presentable, which is saving valuable time in the mornings before getting out with the DCs. I would absolutely recommend it to anyone who is tempted - thus may only make sense to people who have lived with frizz balks for years but it is not a 'wonder product' in that I now have shampoo advert cat deely type hair, however what I do have is 'normal' manageable hair which is all I wants for years and so to me that is genuinely amazing smile

carriedaway Tue 09-Jul-13 11:32:53

Sorry for the typos - on mobile!

MustTidyUpMustTidyUp Tue 09-Jul-13 18:11:54

I did it today! Not too hard to do. Used about 1/3 of the tub so I might've been a bit stingy. Had a cut and highlights first with a fringe put in so look a lot different! Dried it outside so no problem with fumes. It's very straight and flat at the moment but not lank it looks fine if you like that straight look. I'm a big and bouncy fan myself so look forward to seeing what I can do with it after a wash on Saturday morning.

SofaCanary Tue 09-Jul-13 18:24:22

Drying it outside is a stroke of genius, MustTidyUp (love the name!), did mine back in Feb and could do with doing it again but the thought of the fumes, and the faff, has been putting me off.

Anyone know if I should highlight before or after?

MustTidyUpMustTidyUp Tue 09-Jul-13 19:02:45

I had mine highlighted today. Before. Can colour before keratin but not until 2 weeks after keratin.

DisappointedHorse Tue 09-Jul-13 19:54:55

I washed mine yesterday and I'm really impressed, blasting it with the hair dryer leaves it absolutely fine. I certainly wouldn't be afraid to leave the house. A quick flick with the straighteners leaves it looking like glass, it is VERY straight though.

Right now, it feels like a miracle. I've been in London in the heat today which would normally leave me with ridiculous fluff. Nothing, it hasn't moved. I'm not even waking up with bed head!!

Lets see how long it lasts. Beware of Tresemme Keratin Smooth heat protection spray though, it contains salt. I'm glad I checked as I own it already and would have just used it.

DharmaLovesDraco Tue 09-Jul-13 21:09:32

Did mine today too, and did the blow dry outside thing! Great minds and all that wink
I couldn't be faffed with putting the stuff on with the brush so I just whacked it on with my hands and rubbed it in and then combed it through. My hair smells and feels lovely but I do resemble an Afgahn hound grin

MustTidyUpMustTidyUp Tue 09-Jul-13 21:27:34
SofaCanary Tue 09-Jul-13 21:33:34

You're both gawjus! grin

DharmaLovesDraco Tue 09-Jul-13 21:52:18

Brilliant !! (That is actually how I think I look right now grin)

MustTidyUpMustTidyUp Tue 09-Jul-13 21:57:11

grin

oreoaddict Wed 10-Jul-13 16:59:07

grin grin It's a good look!

Reporting some bad news though I'm afraid. I mentioned before that my hair feels a little greasier than before I did the treatment. However, it's even worse now! I washed it for the second time on Monday and my hair today literally looks like someone has poured a generous amount of chip pan fat on my head confused Not a good look, I'm sure you'll agree.

Not sure if it's just the treatment or the shampoo and conditioner........or both. Does anyone else use the keratin kits one? I know one or two of you do.

Also, even though my hair looks in much better condition overall, I find it breaks off easier. I remember a hairdresser telling me years ago that too much keratin based products can have the opposite of the desired effect and make your hair more brittle. I'm used to bits breaking off as I've got a really bad habit of touching my hair, but this last week or so, I've noticed that quite a lot of my hair breaks when I pull it. I'm only pulling very gently and it's only the unhealthy, split ends which are snapping off, but nevertheless, it's a little unnerving.

Anyone else had this?

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Wed 10-Jul-13 17:10:22

oreo, have you tried using no or hardly any conditioner? the conditioner might be too heavy.

and re the breakage; it sounds like you need a good cut. if you have split ends anyway they will become brittle over time. do you have a regular hair cut?

oreoaddict Wed 10-Jul-13 18:27:41

coco, I definitely do need a good cut, but I'm soooo desperate to grow it really long. I'm being greedy really, cos it's already half way down my back! grin I'll get a trim soon though.

I actually used less conditioner this time, as in a couple of pea sized blobs. I did use more shampoo this time though and that's it's quite conditioning isn't it?.... I just didn't feel like I got it clean, so I added lots.

You don't use the keratin kits one do you?....

oreoaddict Wed 10-Jul-13 18:28:53

Oooops, typo! *that is quite conditioning

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Wed 10-Jul-13 19:57:10

no i use tresseme. you need a cut asap grin

MustTidyUpMustTidyUp Thu 11-Jul-13 13:53:57

Right. My 72 hrs s up at 3pm tomorrow but I'm going to wash tonight in an attempt to keep more volume as I don't want it to be flat or straight, just easy and non frizzy. Anyone else done this?

SofaCanary Thu 11-Jul-13 14:32:20

Oreo I used the keratin kit shampoo and conditioner twice and chucked 'em in the bin! My hair felt strangely course and wooly when wet but then oily and coated when I'd dried it, bloomin' gross.

I switched to L'Oreal Everpure and Pureology, I think you can have too much of a good thing with this keratin malarkey.

oreoaddict Thu 11-Jul-13 15:39:44

Sofa, thanks for the tip. The first time I used the keratin kit ones, my hair felt really clean and probably lasted as long as when I used the normal shampoo etc. This time though, yeah, my hair felt oily and coated, just the same! So how are you getting on with this L'Oreal one then? Does your hair feel as clean as it did before your treatment? Do you know if it's definitely salt free, because apparently a lot of the brands which say they're salt free, do actually contain some salt. I agree with what you say about keratin. Having said that, I've just bought some Organix Brazilian keratin, heat defence spray confused because it was the only spray which said it didn't contain salt. So how long has your treatment lasted so far?

oreoaddict Thu 11-Jul-13 15:50:41

Sofa, just done some research on the L'Oreal stuff and am a tad confused, although it doesn't take much grin Which one do you use? There are loads of different ones. Does it matter if you're using a colour protector one, If you don't have coloured hair? Do you prefer L'Oreal or Pureology?

SofaCanary Thu 11-Jul-13 16:14:45

As far as I know all the Everpures are salt free, not sure which one I have and I can't be arsed going upstairs grin It's nowt special but I find it lighter and less moisturising than the Pureology so it's nice to alternate between the two.

My hair seems to prefer Pureology, I'm using the hydrate range. Now it is pricey but you really don't need a lot. I find it better to do two shampoos with only a 10p sized blob each time, rather than one shampoo using a big dollop iykwim.

I did the treatment in Feb and I'm still pretty much frizzle free although the new hair growth at the roots looks scruffy now so I tend to run the straighteners over them. I do only wash my hair once a week though (minging I know) so that's probably why it's lasted so long.

HTH a bit smile

DharmaLovesDraco Thu 11-Jul-13 19:06:15

Have you washed it yet MustTidyUp? I'm tempted to wash tomorrow morning......

I've been lurking for ages and finally got round to ordering the kit which arrived yesterday. Roped my mum in to helping me do it today - will keep you posted!

DharmaLovesDraco Thu 11-Jul-13 20:42:51

I really, really want to wash my hair, not because it feels greasy but because it is so god damn FLAT!!

MustTidyUpMustTidyUp Thu 11-Jul-13 21:09:00

Bloody hell just typed and lost a long reply.
All washed and styled. It's fine but flat. Soft and shiny. But flat. I prefer it big and even though dried it with te BBH it didn't hold the curl as it would do usually. Although it has a bit of a wave so much better than the afghan hound look.
Next wash I'll use less conditioner and no oil and maybe some sort of volumising product (do most contain salt?)
Will be interested to see what it's like in the morning though a it usually puffs up overnight.
Glad I washed it out today!

ALovelyBunchOfCoconuts Mon 15-Jul-13 20:32:53

Any updates anyone?

Oreo, did you scrap the keratin kits shampoo?

Washed it this morning which was a relief with all the hot weather- I didn't venture out in public at all yesterday as it looked so gross!

Gave it a quick blast with the hairdryer before work and it looks pretty good, very smooth but quite a lot flatter than normal (usually very big and frizzy if left to dry naturally. So I am pretty impressed so far smile

Can anyone recommend a heat protection product that's suitable?

oreoaddict Tue 16-Jul-13 09:06:33

coco, well I haven't chucked them, but I made the hideous mistake last night of washing my hair with that joico one and my hair is thick with grease! confused Honestly, I'm not exaggerating. It doesn't lather at all, so I had to wash it a couple of times, but even then, you just don't feel like you're getting it clean at all. When I was drying it, I just thought it was taking a bit longer than normal, but then realised that the wet wasn't water, it was just grease! I'll be washing it again later with the keratin kits one, only because haven't bought any others yet. How's yours going? How's the scalp? grin

Mrs, glad you're happy with it smile I'll be watching with interest regarding the heat protection spray. I still haven't found one. I don't straighten my hair anymore because it dries straight anyway when I blast it with the hairdryer now, but I'd still like to put something on it before I blow dry. I guess you're still damaging your hair, aren't you.

MustTidyUpMustTidyUp Tue 16-Jul-13 12:13:18

I'd say I'm reasonably happy. I used a normal shampoo at the weekend to try and introduce a bit more oomph. It's great if I want to wear it up, just leave to dry and it goes up nicely without looking frizzy but it's a bit flat down. I wanted to do it so it was easy for holiday, which it will be.
I use the organix shampoo and its easy to lather and not greasy - I don't really suffer with grease though. oreo why not try a little normal shampoo in the roots and sodium free through the ends?

oreoaddict Tue 16-Jul-13 15:16:32

Must, that's weird! I was just about to ask if anyone used normal shampoo for the roots and sodium free everywhere else. Guess I could give it a go. You say your hair is quite flat now, do you have a lot of hair? Thought you said you did.....

MustTidyUpMustTidyUp Tue 16-Jul-13 15:58:17

I have a lot of hair but the hair itself is quite fine so with no volume at the crown it looks a bit rubbish.

Purpleknickers Wed 17-Jul-13 08:27:47

Morning ladies I use the organix keratin shampoo and conditioner plus the heat defence spray and I can honestly say they are no different from ordinary products in the way my hair responds.

When I shampoo it, it does feel coarse and wooly but once its conditioned it feels soft and sleek again. The shampoo lathers well and the conditioner feels a bit odd at first because its a bit rubbery. All products smell lovely just like coconuts.

I am now ell into week 9 and I still only wash my hair every 3 days, the only bit of frizz is where it has grown in the 9 weeks

oreoaddict Wed 17-Jul-13 11:06:16

Purple, I bought the organix keratin smooth spray, assuming it was a heat defence spray, but when I got it home, realised that it didn't say anything about heat defence and it was more to aid smoothness when straightening. Is this the same one you have? Week 9 and still no frizz?!smile Impressive! I have 8 weeks in my head, as a goal before frizz starts returning. Anything after that is a major bonus as far as I'm concerned!

Any more updates?...

Purpleknickers Wed 17-Jul-13 11:26:06

No I have the organix flat iron spray definitely heat defence here is the link
Heat defence

primallass Spain Sat 20-Jul-13 09:42:17

I did mine again on Thursday because I wrecked it in the pool on holiday. However, my hair is much greasier than last time. Has anyone washed it out earlier than the 72 hrs? I am scared to wreck my hair permanently but feel disgusting today. Batiste didn't help much last time.

oreoaddict Sat 20-Jul-13 11:38:26

prima, what did you wash your hair with? My hair is definitely greasier than it was before I did the treatment, but overall, I'm still happy with it. If it weren't for batiste, I'd probably have to wash my hair every other day now. But then I suppose it doesn't bother me as much having to wash my hair more, because it takes a quarter of the time to style. Well, it styles itself really. I don't let it air dry because it would take all day, so I just blast it with the hairdryer for about 10 minutes and that's me done. Does your hair feel in better condition now? Forgetting the grease, that is.

oreoaddict Sat 20-Jul-13 11:40:56

Oh and do you think you might have used a bit more this time? Did you get it close to your roots? When did you do it last? It could just be that you've over keratined. I know they say it's safe to use once a month, but I would have thought that would be too often. Maybe it will just get less greasy as time goes on.

oreoaddict Sat 20-Jul-13 15:59:47

prima, I read your post wrong I think. I thought you meant you already had washed it, even though you clearly said you hadn't, when I read it back grin

How many times did you wash your hair with the purifying shampoo before hand? If you haven't washed it yet, I wouldn't worry too much. I wouldn't wash it before the 72 hours though.

I'm going on holiday in October, but I think I'll just tie my hair up in a top knot and try my hardest not to get it wet. I'll probably fail after the first day though. I guess when you're on your holidays you don't want to have to worry about your hair do you.

primallass Spain Mon 22-Jul-13 20:18:17

Sorry have just come back to this. I did manage to sit it out for the 72hrs and it is better again. It was far more greasy the second time round though.

My hair is chin-length and we were at Center Parcs so there was no avoiding getting it wet.

oreoaddict Tue 23-Jul-13 13:13:33

Glad your hair has gone back to normal prima. Bet those 72 hours felt much longer grin Did you put the same amount of treatment on this time round?

Do you mind if I ask which Center Parcs you went to? I live round the corner from one.

oreoaddict Fri 26-Jul-13 13:39:22

Hey fellow Brazilian swishes! grin

So how is it swishing? Thought I'd give an update and hopefully hear some of yours.

Ok, so I've been really really pleased with it overall, except for the fact that my hair get's greasy quicker than before, but I've already mentioned that several times I think grin

I've been really happy with the reduced styling time, smoothness and of course, the no frizz, which is by far what I was happiest with.

I had a few problems with the keratin kits shampoo and conditioner in the beginning, but in the end, I decided it was the best of a bad lot. I just don't put very much in and I don't put a lot of heat on the roots when I'm drying, so it lasts a little longer.

So I have been really happy.....that is, until this morning sad When I was drying it, it still felt really smooth and glossy and I was still feeling quite smug at how I'd be finished in 5 minutes with no need for any GHD's, again. However, once my hair was completely dry, I noticed that it was really bushy and quite frizzy towards the end. Looked kind of frazzled and brittle........like it used to. I'm not saying it's back completely to the way it was, but I'd say it's getting there and after 3 1/2 weeks confused I'm obviously not very happy.

I remember coco and hopas saying that it was wearing off slightly after 3 weeks, but that was more about the curl coming back, which mine has pretty much after the second time I washed it. I wasn't bothered by the curl coming back though, I just didn't want the course, frizz to come back so soon, well ever! But realistically I was hoping for at least 2 months, before I had to consider doing it again.

I really don't want to do it again already!

So anyway, just thought I'd share.........and moan grin

How's everyone else getting on? Better than me I hope.

Oh and I did add a few drops of that extraordinary oil the last couple of times I washed it. I read the ingredients and it didn't say it contained salt. Wondering if that had anything to do with it.

Purpleknickers Fri 26-Jul-13 21:21:20

I am just starting to notice now in week 11 that my hair is frizzing a bit in this humid weather and also it's looking not so shiny and swishy.

Not sure I want to Brazilian it again already and a tiny bit of me wants to sometimes embrace my waves with urban fudge sea salt stuff now and again. But I know if I do then I've ruined it .. Decisions decisions.

trickydickie Fri 26-Jul-13 22:54:20

It has taken me a while but think I have managed to read through all the posts on this topic. Oreo - what a shame that it has only really lasted 3 and a half weeks. Considering the time it takes to apply the treatment think I would be a bit disappointed.

I bought the kit today on amazon. I will give anything a try to get rid of my coarse, frizz, pubic hair like hair. I am getting highlights next Saturday so may apply it the Thursday after or might have to wait til Saturday 17th August.

I will update once done.

trickydickie Fri 26-Jul-13 22:55:48

Has anyone applied this treatment just a few days after highlight/colour? Was it all ok>

MustTidyUpMustTidyUp Sat 27-Jul-13 10:37:43

I did it same day. It was fine.

trickydickie Sat 27-Jul-13 17:42:23

Thanks MustTidy. I might do it on the Sunday (the day after highlights then). As I need someone around to watch the kids while I spend hours applying lotion and straightening.

macandcheesewithbaconbits Sun 28-Jul-13 14:56:48

Oreoaddict
I am in a same position. 4 weeks in and it's frizzing up again and the ends don't feel good- dry and tatty.
I also realised that I was using frizz ease and mythic oil. I am so used to putting them on my hair after I wash it, I hadn't even realised that they may contain salt and interfere with the treatment.
I have been using the correct shampoo. Feel a bit silly.
Do you think it is too early to repeat the treatment?

FoxPass Sun 28-Jul-13 20:11:01

I did mine a month ago and am already fluffing up in humid weather. It has drastically reduced my frizz but I still do have to at least straighten it to get it looking nice, nowhere near as much as before though.

I have very fine hair and I lost a lot doing the treatment, it just comes out really easily sad I am also more greasy than before, I can't go longer than a couple of days without washing.

It's great to be frizz-free, but not sure it's worth it.

oreoaddict Sun 28-Jul-13 20:30:45

Mac, it's not too early apparently. Once a month is safe, but tbh, I don't think it's a good idea. If you're having greasy hair syndrome, like me, then my guess is it would get even greasier. I've checked the ingredients on the oil and it doesn't say anything about salt, but then I heard a lot of products say they don't when they do.

I'm going to stick it out for another couple of weeks at least. I believe the pros outweigh the cons, but that isn't to say the cons aren't relevant. I only really have one day when my hair feels clean and my ends are already feeling like straw. However, my hair overall is so much easier to maintain

macandcheesewithbaconbits Mon 29-Jul-13 13:36:26

Yes I think I agree I will wait. I think the shampoo makes it greasy.

AngieM2 Mon 29-Jul-13 19:48:55

Ladies, desperate to try this BUT....how do you all cope with the three day 'no wash' at the start? How does your hair know its been 3 days? Sorry if that sounds daft! How would i go to work or the gym? (Have long hair and have to tie back for both) help?

QueenofWhispers Tue 30-Jul-13 10:35:45

so...i used to do this (at the salon, but will do it at home now that I've read this thread) after I had my son.

...wondering if I can use this during pregnancy?

oreoaddict Tue 30-Jul-13 13:50:31

Angie, I'm afraid it's just something you have to do. You can use dry shampoo on day 3 and honestly, you won't find those 72 hours as hard as you think. I assumed because I was putting on an intense treatment and not washing it out, that my hair would feel chip pan like, but it didn't, it felt clean. As far as tying it back goes, I wasn't that strict with that tbh. I claw clipped it half back when I was just sick of it falling in my face, which was about 5 minutes after I'd finished straightening it! I wasn't that concerned as it wasn't the straightness I was bothered about. I just wanted it smooth, but I guess it depends on what you're hoping to get out of it. Having said that, I didn't notice any unsightly kinks where I tied it back.

Queen, no, definitely not safe to use while pregnant. Although it doesn't contain the dangerous chemical formaldehyde, it is still pretty potent and it does contain other chemicals which could be potentially harmful to your unborn baby. This actually includes infants in general. They recommend that you don't do the treatment if you have young children around, so ideally do it at a friends or if you're child/ren are away for at least the day. I guess they say the same about dying your hair in pregnancy though, don't they. Make sure you really ventilate the room and ideally, when you're drying the treatment into your hair, do that part outside to avoid the chocking fumes. Be warned, they are pretty strong. It felt like someone was rubbing onions into my eyes!

Good luck both of you anyway. Hope it goes well if you decide to do it.

D0oinMeCleanin Mon 05-Aug-13 17:02:53

Does anyone who uses this go to the gym regularly?

I'm doing mine today but am due for a PT session tomorrow and I always get really sweaty (my hair is usually soaked with sweat) I know I can't wash it or tie it back but could I wear a towelling hair band or will I ruin it? I don't wanna walk around with sweat stinking hair for three days.

nobodysfool Tue 06-Aug-13 08:41:26

Can I ask ladies which is the best high street shampoo and conditioner?

oreoaddict Tue 06-Aug-13 17:43:05

DOoin, no definitely not a good idea to put a hair band on. If you sweat that much, I think you may just have to stay away from the gym for a couple of days.

Actually, whilst we're on the subject of sweat (nice grin) does anybody find that their treatment wears off quicker if you sweat a fair bit? I just find that with the hot nights, I wake up with damp hair at the back and I just wondered if maybe the salt in the sweat is stripping off the treatment. It makes sense considering you can't use hair products with salt in them.

Hopasholic Tue 06-Aug-13 19:22:07

Hi oreo is it still frizz free? Mines doing ok. I've been wearing it up in a sock bun at night and the next day it gives a really nice loose curl. This might help with the sweaty head grin

oreoaddict Tue 06-Aug-13 21:26:50

Hey Hopas Yeah, it's still much better than it was, but can definitely see some frizz returning and I'm having to go over it with the GHD's, which I haven't had to do at all for the first 3 weeks. I only run over bits of it very gently though, so it's not the same as it used to be, when I could literally see and hear my hair sizzle, as I fried it grin section by section. Thanks for the tip about the sock bun smile

nobodysfool Tue 06-Aug-13 22:11:56

Can I ask ladies which is the best high street shampoo and conditioner please?

oreoaddict Wed 07-Aug-13 14:17:24

nobodys I heard that tresemme is good, but I use the keratin kits range from Amazon, which isn't that expensive really. I didn't get on with it at first, made my hair greasy, but I think I was just using too much shampoo. The problem with sulphate free shampoo is that you don't get as good of a lather, if any. With the keratin kits one, you do, so you feel like it's getting clean. I've used a couple of others, but I get hardly any lather and it almost felt like I hadn't washed it.

AngieM2 Thu 08-Aug-13 19:56:50

Just done mine. Took about 2 and a half hours. Got quite long hair. Used my straighteners on 235degrees even though it said 220. Hair looks really nice, straight, shiny and swooshy! Will it look like this when it's washed? Dreading the next 3 days - no gym, no rain and no thine back. Eek

JemimaPuddle Fri 09-Aug-13 06:55:49

oreo a good tip I read when I started using sulphate free shampoo is to add more water if you can't get a lather. Done are better than others but I find this usually helps. smile

JemimaPuddle Fri 09-Aug-13 06:56:07

*some not done

oreoaddict Fri 09-Aug-13 12:27:57

Angie, I'd be surprised if it was exactly the same when you washed it, but it depends on what you're looking for really. Personally, I was dreading doing the treatment because I hate having my hair poker straight and flat, but actually, it looked alright and I got a lot of compliments. I was still relieved when I could wash it and I haven't really used the straighteners for over a month now. What's your hair normally like? Curly? Frizzy? If you've had problem hair before, you'll probably find you're very happy with the results. If you're just doing this because you want perfectly straight hair, but haven't really had problems with frizz, then I don't think it's as impressive. My hair would still be quite wavy/curly if I left it to dry naturally, but when I blow dry it, it goes very smooth and practically, completely straight.

Also, I've found the last couple of times I've washed my hair, it's less greasy. I think it's because the treatment is probably wearing off slightly, but I've just started adding a little more conditioner and it's gone back to being frizz free.

So if you have hair like mine, I'd say for the first 3 or 4 weeks, stick to just a tiny amount of conditioner and then after that, just add a little more.

I was panicking slightly a couple of weeks or so ago, because I thought that was it. I think you just need to read your hair as you go along.

Any other updates?.......

kittykarate Fri 09-Aug-13 14:10:13

I did mine about 3 weeks ago, my hair is wavy and prone to frizz. Usually when I wash my hair it looks good for 1 day, and then gets bigger and frizzier as the days go on. It's no longer the magical poker straight of week one, as the wave has come back. It's like I have a pretty good hair day every day, rather than one day of goodness straight after it has been washed.

AngieM2 Mon 12-Aug-13 21:46:52

Washed this morning, hair looks really soft and smooth, is long and quite straight anyway but has a bit of frizz to it that i usually straighten out. This morning just was it and rough dried it and it didnt need straightening at all! Only downside is i think im sensitive to either the keratin treatment or the shampoo as my neck (and a bit of my ears) have been really itchy (noticed it a lot today) Anyone else had this?

oreoaddict Tue 13-Aug-13 12:14:22

Angie, I haven't had that. Did you do the test beforehand? It won't be the shampoo because it's just an anti build up, clarifying, kind of prepping shampoo and these don't contain anything harsh or likely to irritate. When I did the 48 hour test, I started to itch and assumed I couldn't do the treatment, but 2 minutes later, the itching stopped.

Have you noticed any redness, or swelling?

AngieM2 Tue 13-Aug-13 13:46:59

Hi oreo nah, didnt to the patch test....just braved it out. I think it's from the treatment cos although I did my first wash yesterday, I've also been able to put my hair up off my neck and it's better this morning,. Yes it was itchy and a bit rash like but improving.....

oreoaddict Tue 13-Aug-13 15:02:01

Ok, well if it's improving then that's the main thing. Hope you continue to impressed with the results smile

I'm actually happier now than I was in the beginning, because the treatment is wearing off confused That may sound odd, but because the frizz has come back ever so slightly, I just add more conditioner, but because it's wearing off, my hair is less greasy, so it can take it. I didn't realise how good the keratin kits conditioner actually was, because I was scared to use any before. I used such a tiny amount, it was almost insignificant. Now though, I slap a few pumps on and it's brilliant!

I'm hoping to get another month out of this treatment, but I fully intend to re do it. Yes, there are negatives, but the positives far outweigh them......... in my opinion anyway.

MexicanHat Tue 13-Aug-13 19:23:03

So pleased!! Did the keratin treatment on Saturday afternoon and have just washed. No frizz, just towel dried and finished off with round brush and dryer. Just amazing!! Hair looks and feels soft and silky and no straigteners required!!

Will be interesting to see how it looks in the morning and how long it lasts............

oreoaddict Thu 15-Aug-13 10:14:35

Mexican, glad you're happy with the results. smile Have you found your style has lasted longer?

MexicanHat Thu 15-Aug-13 15:35:56

Hi oreo woke up with hair looking good yesterday and usually hair would still ok the day after too (today) but it does look at bit flat/greasy today. I don't know if that's maybe because I used too much conditioner when I washed it? How are you getting on? Ah just read upthread and see you used keratin conditioner too!!

oreoaddict Thu 15-Aug-13 16:54:06

Mexican, what's your hair type? I would say that normally, ie, before the treatment, I could get away with washing my hair twice a week(ish), but after doing the treatment, it was more like every other day. I get through a lot of dry shampoo! I'd say for the first month, my hair was greasier, but obviously, much less frizzy, so it was kind of worth it, but then all of a sudden my hair started fluffing up again, so I added more conditioner, which I was told not to do by all. I didn't think my hair would take it and make it even more greasy, but I think with this treatment, the follow up care is kind of trial and error. Luckily, it didn't make my hair greasier, but only because the treatment is wearing off iyswim. How much shampoo and conditioner are you using? I use 4 pumps of shampoo and 2 pumps of conditioner and I have very long, very very thick hair. I used to use just one pump at the beginning, but obviously my hair started getting thirsty.

MexicanHat Thu 15-Aug-13 17:31:06

Hi. It's just past the shoulder in length, my hair is fine but I have lots of it and it's layered to make it look fuller. If I leave my hair to dry it looks frizzy. If I blow dry it and use straighteners it looks great but in humid and wet weather it just frizzes again.

I would say I use a teaspoon of shampoo and wash it twice and a tablespoon of conditioner. The frizz has totally gone from my hair so maybe it's just trail and error on how much shampoo/conditioner I need?

AnLeanbh Sat 17-Aug-13 11:53:22

Amazing stuff!
Just add to add to the chorus...
Best product I`ve used for my hair ever!My overhighlighted ,dry,frizzy shoulder length hair looks healthy+ swishy.
My only worry is that all the interest will cause the price of it to rise prohibitively!

Rohey Sat 17-Aug-13 19:41:11

Great stuff. Had low expectations as I was a little cack handed when applying it. Did it last Sunday and washed it on Friday - I know but it really didn't look mega greasy.

Didn't blow dry or put straighteners through my hair and it was shiny and frizz free. Just a slight wave which I had years ago which I yearned to have again... So very pleased plus I get 2 treatments out of 1 box.. Bonus!!!!!!!

MexicanHat Sun 18-Aug-13 10:56:07

Went out last night - windy and rainy and in a busy, warm pub - my hair would usually look like candyfloss by the end of the night!!! It looked the same as when I went out - I can't believe it!!! Have other people been using this for years and keeing quiet about it????

trickydickie Sat 24-Aug-13 16:51:18

Put this on last Saturday 17th. Washed off this morning (cause I am a minger) and my hair looks lovely. Swishy and like normal hair looks. I must say it looked fantastic for the week I had the treatment on it. Not greasy at all. Though I have pubic hair on my head so would take some amount to make it look greasy.

I put the treatment on myself (not sure very well) and it looks good. I suppose the proof now will be how long it lasts. I will report back in a few weeks.

oreoaddict Wed 28-Aug-13 12:39:15

Hey smile

Reporting in.....

So it's gone back to being quite greasy, but I think that's something to do with the weather being hot and humid again. When I sweat, it gets really greasy for some reason grrrrr It's not terrible though.

I've noticed the ends are quite dry, but I don't want to trim them as I really wanted to grow my hair super long. It's not grown at all I don't think, since I did the treatment, which is coming up for 2 months now. Frustrating.

I think I'm going to order some more though. I said that I'd be pleased if I got 2 months out of it and I have, so I'm reasonably happy overall.

AngieM2 Wed 04-Sep-13 14:06:34

Hi all, did my hair beginning of August - have a sensitive scalp and usually use T-gel shampoo which stops me itching. Had a very itchy neck and ears post treatment which has now calmed. Thing is....I'm not too happy with the keratin kits shampoo (white bottle one). Its starting to make me a bit itchy now and I'm greasier. I have gone and bought Tresemme Keratin shampoo and it does say on the bottle that its suitable for use after a salon keratin treatment. Do you think i should give it a go? Or any other sensitive head shampoo tips?

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