Calling all HOC Summers...

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issimma Sat 18-May-13 07:54:35

With apologies to queencadbury for nicking her idea!

I had my colours done last year, but haven't really got into it (pregnancy plus postnatal plus maternity leave lack of funds). I'm a summer and am still struggling with feeling like a cruise ship escapee.

So, thought I'd start a thread where other vases of sweet peas/watercolour paintings/bluebells in a rainy wood could share their buys and wishlists.

First off, I need some Ts and want to try the zara linen ones when they bring out summery colours. I don't get on with kettlewell as they're too short on my body sad

FrugalFashionista Sat 18-May-13 09:56:58

Issimma are we the only summers on MN? wink
I haven't found my dream t shirt (soft white scoop neck made of thick cotton) yet but bought a couple of these long vests these week (camel and navy) and they seem great. Good material and not too thin and clingy.

Denim/chambray is one of my best neutrals so I've worn my men's blue oxford/chambray shirt (men's size S) a lot over those vests. It's a bit slouchy and relaxed but not tent-like.

issimma Sat 18-May-13 10:02:46

grin Let's flush some more out!

Can you relink the vests as it didn't work? thanks

I love my light denim shirt with darker denim flares. Wannabe Charlie's Angel here grin. I have a chambray dress, but it's too foggy and grey for that. Sigh.

FrugalFashionista Sat 18-May-13 10:12:45

Vest here. It's a shade darker than my skin so it doesn't look like I'm going topless grin
Budget alternative: H&M spaghetti strap vests. COS also have some contenders in navy (saw instore, haven't worn).

I've enjoyed the comeback of le total denim look too - depending on weather I'm wearing high-waisted denims shorts with my shirt (sleeves rolled up) or lighter denim skinnies with a vest, chambray shirt left open.

BloooCowWonders Sat 18-May-13 10:20:16

Me me me me!

But my better colors are the deeper end of the range. So plum/ burgundy/ grey and dark blue ( cant remember what the 'official' colour names are)

To be honest the lighter shades are all a bit meh to me...

I have had great success with Dylon for the 'wrong' clothes that I already had.

SunshinePanda Sat 18-May-13 13:16:59

I'm a Summer too! Always find it easier to buy items in accent colours so am on a mission at the moment to buy some neutrals. Have just bought some new tops, in quest to own greyed navy and soft white. Not sure whether they will link but both from New Look - navy with owl pattern (just seen reduced now!) and blue and white striped top
www.newlook.com/shop/womens/tops/blue-and-white-zip-slub-t-shirt-_276488149
www.newlook.com/shop/womens/tops/blue-and-white-zip-slub-t-shirt-_276488149
Also this top - says cream but not sure if it is more of a soft white. What do you think? It has buttons down the back and is a good fit.
www.newlook.com/shop/womens/tops/blue-and-white-zip-slub-t-shirt-_276488149

SunshinePanda Sat 18-May-13 13:18:40

Though the links were going too well. Last top here
www.newlook.com/shop/womens/tops/cream-geo-broderie-shell-top_270885412

SunshinePanda Sat 18-May-13 13:22:32

Sorry first time at linking - owl top hopefully here!!
www.newlook.com/shop/womens/tops/navy-olivia-owl-print-t-shirt_266879941

wickedfairy Sat 18-May-13 14:10:16

I am a deep brown summer, so good colours on me are:
Madder Rose, mushroomy/oyster/blush colours, french navy and then emerald green/grape/rasperberry, etc

I struggle to get my head around it - had my colours done a few years ago but have since had another 2 pregnancies/babies and now that I am finished, I need to get cracking on sorting out my wardrobe.

I appear unable to shop and pick clothes - have always been rubbish at this and with 3 kids, I never have time to shop <sigh> I don't order online because everytime I pick something to wear, it looks shocking on me (even in shops)....

Lurking here, hoping to be inspired - sorry I have nothing helpful to add....

wickedfairy Sat 18-May-13 14:19:09

Oh - I just bought this top today and this dress

The top is just basic and the dress is a lovely colour on me and was a good price - however, I have no idea where I will wear it. Got it for a wedding (possibly) but it may be a bit too bridesmaid-ish

SunshinePanda Sat 18-May-13 14:30:08

Love the dress. The top link doesn't work for me. Think you're being hard on yourself by saying you are rubbish at buying clothes and then posting such a lovely dress!

wickedfairy Sat 18-May-13 14:38:24

will try again with the top link top

The dress was a freak purchase tbh - I have never bought something like that before! I usually live in jeans and tshirts, but I am going to try and make an effort to be a little stylish..

wickedfairy Sat 18-May-13 14:39:04

grr - the top link won't work - it is called Attia Jersey top from French Connection.

SunshinePanda Sat 18-May-13 14:49:52

Link still just takes me to home page. I'm the opposite in terms of purchasing. Don't mean that I'm stylish but when went shopping last week for tops, which I am in desperate need of, had to stop myself (only just managed) from buying 3 dresses! Think I need help in being casually stylish/ trendy, like Jennifer Aniston if possible!! Hope you wear your dress soon.

SunshinePanda Sat 18-May-13 14:55:40

Thanks can now see 3 tops - look great. Wonder how white the white is in RL compared to the cream top I linked to.

scripsi Sat 18-May-13 17:58:01

I am a light summer (which was a surprise, thought I was a spring) and it has been a revelation but I haven't yet managed to buy enough stuff to replace my largely black wardrobe. So I am marking place!

mewkins Sat 18-May-13 18:11:18

Think I am a cool summer (self-diagnosis but think it's right as those colours definitely look good). Having spent years avoiding all pinks, I am now embracing magenta and other clear bright pinks. Would love some bright pink/ raspberry or purple scarves I if anyone has seen anything nice about. Useful to wear with navy/ grey to brighten things up a bit.

ellangirl Sat 18-May-13 20:13:17

I'm a sweet pea summer. At the moment I am wearing mostly grey and blue, with some sea green and lilac/purple. Things I wear a lot are this in purple, this in grey- it's a lovely pewter colour, and this in dark blue, which is a perfect summer dark blue, slightly grey/mauve almost. I struggle with shoes the most. I have wide feet anyway and all shoes seem to be black, or tan/brown which doesn't go with summer colours. I want some nice navy or grey shoes!

issimma Sat 18-May-13 21:14:18

ellan I also have wide feet, and wear these flats in blue - they're from last year, so different colours this year. V comfy. I'm sticking to converse and birkies for the summer, but don't need smart shoes for work. I also like Asos aggies in dark grey, but they're a bit high for me.
mewkins Have you tried kettlewell?

issimma Sat 18-May-13 21:19:25

sunshine Jennifer Aniston is my style guru too. V natural and understated. I aspire to this, but am usually unironed and covered in baby posset.
wicked Love the dress! I'm trying to get my head around it all too - hope this thread helps a little.
panda - love the broderie top and tempted to get it. Find it v hard to identify soft white, and just avoid optic white.
blooo dylon disaster here <wails>. Glad it worked for you!

issimma Sat 18-May-13 21:20:25

Oh, and there's a mumsnet 20 or 25% discount code this month with kettlewell - couldn't find it earlier, but check before you buy anything...

You called? grin

orangeandemons Sat 18-May-13 21:27:57

I'm a sweetpea summer too. I find it really annoying that all the sort of sophisticated brands never do colours that really suit me. They are all too neutral or washed out. I look best in rose pink and never see it anywhere. I also suit lilac, and Cos did have some lilac tops in. But summer colours never seems to be really fashionable.

Perhaps I need to go and sit in a cottage garden..I remeber a thread on here moaning about lilac in M and S. That's my best colour with the rose pink.sad

mewkins Sat 18-May-13 21:32:10

Thanks for the kettlewell mention- never really looked at it before but I like the raspberry coloured scarf

ellangirl Sat 18-May-13 21:34:17

Issima don't talk to me about baby posset. My dd is nearly 7 months and still overflows regularly after feeding. Now she's crawling too she sicks and then just carries on crawling through it hmm
Anyway, back to the point! I tried those clarks Henderson pumps and they didn't fit my feet. Didn't like the colours much this year either. Shame because i bet they would have been comfy. i have a pair of grey next pumps from a couple of years ago that i wear all the time, but nothing like that around this year. Bought these just because I had a discount code and they were wide! here

Ha, I have just bought those Clarks flats in bone.

Most successful recent purchase was an H&M jacket in dark blue grey. So much better than charcoal on me, but difficult to find.

I had a summer in my class today, and was lovely to rediscover some of the colours that are so hard to find in the shops. (Scripsi She had also self-diagnosed as spring).

(bit of background in case that sounds odd to others - issimma and I know each other IRL, and I am a HoC consultant).

QueenCadbury Sat 18-May-13 21:56:28

issima glad to be of service grin

orangeandemons Sat 18-May-13 22:03:13

Dark blue grey, I love that colour and almost impossible to find too. Much much more flattering than chrcoal

orangeandemons Sat 18-May-13 22:04:06

So would you say summer colours are hard to find?

I think it depends how particular you are. Very easy to end up with the more popular navy / soft white / raspberry / burgundy colours and then end up feeling a bit boring. Also easy to slip into winter navy and grey, and wonder why you look tired!

It takes quite a bit of time to build a wardrobe where everything suits you and goes together. It can't be done in a hurry except by £££ and bespoke tailoring (which can definitely be worth doing).

FrugalFashionista Sat 18-May-13 23:02:03

Hi fellow Summers, I think Summer clothes are somewhat underrepresented (high fashion favors Winters - summer clothes are often 'natural' linens and crumpled cottons) but when you have worked out what your colors really are there are quite a lot of choices. Summer sales is the best time to shop - finding a good winter coat can be difficult.

I made a quick pinboard of higher-end clothes and accessories that I think would work on me (I'm a light summer). I then searched Zara and yes, they have lots of things for summers too - see here. I haven't had difficulties finding great things for me. Everything denim is excellent; my color analyst thought camel/oatmeal might become my best neutral as long as I use some accent colors so that my tops don't blend in too much with my hair. Smoky blues (like the Freda dress in the pic) are my very best scarf color.

Regarding footwear, I tried to do navy/taupe/gray shoes for a bit but it just didn't work for me. My main shoe colors are black and nude (I tend to pick cooler nude shades) and that's fine. I even found an old Color Me Beautiful book that said that trying to find non-black shoes may be futile.

ellangirl Sun 19-May-13 02:41:54

I just remembered that I'm actually a deep summer! Darned sleep deprivation!
Frugal, I just can't wear black shoes, feels all wrong. Most of the Colours I wear are much more muted than the ones on your board though so maybe that's why.

I don't wear black at all, even shoes. I think there is a lot more choice than when colour analysis was first popularised.

My shoes are variously: pale grey, white, pink beige, sea green, coral red, and brown. I am a brown summer, so browns are good on me, where other summers might be better in greys.

The hunt for knee high boots and court shoes in navy continues. Wish R&B did more navy leather, they are obsessed with suede. I have been deliberating over the Chester loafers in indigo / navy for about a year.

Lovely board, Frugal I will say though, that many of those items are not Summer in the HoC system.

SunshinePanda Sun 19-May-13 08:55:41

TravelinColour you have identified exactly where I stray from my colours. I sometimes veer towards Winter grey, navy and black even - black for trousers and shoes only. I know I shouldn't but tried the whole brown thing and it wasn't me. Think I do prefer grey. Also I wear black opaque tights so prefer shoes boots in the same colour to lengthen legs. I have had my colours for about 20 years. Am I a lost cause when it comes to foot and legwear?!

wickedfairy Sun 19-May-13 09:46:59

Travel, I am a deep brown summer and I do like navy and grey. What is the difference between the navy and grey that would suit me and the ones that will wash me out?

I am starting to build up dusky/madder rose and blush tops which I think flatter me but struggling on my neutrals. I am a casual dresser, so always usually in jeans....

FrugalFashionista Sun 19-May-13 09:53:49

Okay, two years after getting my colors done I still get it utterly wrong sad This may help you decide whether the money, time and effort spent is really worth it.

And good luck finding tall boots in navy! That's exactly why I gave up, many of the prescriptions are just not realistic. I bought a few navy courts but they just feel so dowdy, like a part of an airline uniform or something...

orangeandemons Sun 19-May-13 10:06:59

I found tall boots in navy last winter from Next. I stuggle on neutrals too. The only ones I can really wear all soft white and really really pale grey, yet a lot of clothes seem to be in neutrals.

I struggle with winter coats too, I hate dark colours. I despair in winter seeing loads of black, dark greys, browns etc. I saw a woman wearing a coat the other day, in the only yellow that summer's can wear. I really wanted that coat!

SunshinePanda Sun 19-May-13 10:12:30

Frugal if having your colours done means that it you have more clothes that work together, rather than separate outfits, and you feel that the colours suit you then it isn't a waste. Like you found that some colours seemed frumpy in shoes and boots, which is why I go back to black, but find that overall my colours do work. Was really pleased that you joined this thread as have been lurking on frugal thread and you give excellent advice - don't be downhearted!
Wickedfairy hope that Travelincolour helps us both with grey, navy issues!

Shorty1980 Sun 19-May-13 10:28:38

Ooooh I was just diagnosed (if that's the right word) as a Summer this week - the consultant was insistent I had to tackle my 'wrong' hair colour before I even started on my wardrobe. Which is odd, because this is more or less my natural hair colour (minus some grey coverage). Anyway I wear a lot of blue/turquoise/teal and always get told how much it suits me - unfortunately I usually pair it with black, a big no no for summers I believe smile. I like toast/seasalt/fat face as they always seem to have pretty blues in.

Shorty1980 Sun 19-May-13 10:33:09

Oh and I always wear red shoes eyes wardrobe full of almost identical red shoes which consultant said was fine as long as they were on the blue red spectrum (rather than orangey) because they were so far from my face grin

orangeandemons Sun 19-May-13 10:34:47

A good one for Summer colours is Mistral....but the clothes are dire. Must be designed by a summer though.

Epic post coming up - (pours brew)

smile The most vital tool you have is your swatch. One tip I learnt is to use the reverse side of the wallet, as otherwise your eyes will try to convince you that there is a match. So when it comes to navy / grey, it's best to use the side of the wallet which does not have these in, lie it against the item you are testing out, and see if it tones in or overwhelms. The winter navy is less soft than the summer, and the winter grey does not have any blue in. Both significantly better than black though.

I am happy for my clients to email me links to clothes to confirm if it is their season - I am sure other consultants are too.

Regarding Winter / Summer colours in general. There is significant overlap when it comes to buying clothes - for example Kettlewell have many tops which are suitable for more than one season, because unlike the drapes, clothes are not precision dyed.

Regarding browns, the browns in the summer palette are very ash, sort of mahogany or mushroom coloured, with very little warmth. Think Courtney Cox's hair colour - it's brown, but there is not a bit of red in it at all.

The reason I match my shoes to my palette is that they then go with everything without even thinking about it. Yes, it does matter less when things are away from your face - the most important area is your face and neck. However, I do wear clogs with pale wood soles, and I wouldn't wear wood next to my face! Same applies to trousers - to get that 'well put together' look I would always advise sticking to your season for the whole of your wardrobe. I do sympathise, it is really annoying finding clothes which you know are perfect for you but are the wrong colour. I love the sound of the wardrobe of red shoes grin.

Whoever said they had not had their colours done for a while, it's possible to go for a re-rating to find out your new best colours - your season doesn't change, but the best colours within it often do (for example the deeper colours may not be as good as you age).

FrugalF, It’s early days! It took me at least 2 years to feel that I had a wardrobe that was really spot on. I think I recall that you had your colours done in a different system too? There are different systems, and a fair bit of difference in the colours between them.

It is coming to the time of year which is great for us to shop - though I find many of my best things on ebay and in charity shops.

Mistral is very Summer, White Stuff too (and they have a no black policy!). Unfortunately only good for those with very Natural clothing personality.

Shorty Re hair-colour, it's tricky. Sometimes hair colour is quite misleading, and that's why we cover it for an analysis if it is dyed, even if it is in theory the same as the natural colour. I have just advised a new summer to ditch the warm blonde highlights, but it's a difficult conversation to have.

And actually, I'm not sure why I picked Courtney Cox as an example rather that just directing you to my photo's! That's my natural hair colour, and a close match to the browns in the summer palette.

SunshinePanda Sun 19-May-13 12:09:11

Thanks Travelincolour. I do have other colour trousers - a very good blue and various greys but sometimes buy black for work because its easier. I find it hard to buy a pair of well fitted trousers anyway. I will try the tip of using the other colours in the swatch to check it tones not overwhelms. What do you do about opaque tights if you are a Summer? Can anyone link any clothes in the right grey?

issimma Sun 19-May-13 12:12:35

panda I wear these falke anthracite tights. <crosses fingers they're the right grey>. Hideously £££, but not so bad in the sale, and great quality.

I wear tights in smoked grape / plum, burgundy, navy and grey.
To be honest, with tights I think you can get away with charcoal and brown too, though again, navy will be better.

This jacket looks blue grey

whereas this is Winter (amazing though)

this is light blue grey

ellangirl Sun 19-May-13 12:28:38

This white stuff jacket looked to me to be a good summer colour here. I ordered it anyway so I'll let you know! I find too much of fatface/mistral/white stuff very drab, but I have bits from all of them. This is not hoc, but useful to see the right sort of neutrals I think. Correct me if I'm wrong travel! here

ellangirl Sun 19-May-13 12:36:58

Also, already there any blogs by summers? If not travel, can you start one? grin

issimma Sun 19-May-13 12:38:03

I'm not usually a white stuff fan (don't do patterns), but love that parka. AND it's in one of my best colours. Good job I'm not a size 8...

grin
I don't blog (yet?) but I do have a facebook page with a photo of my summer drapes on. I also post a few pictures and links.

SunshinePanda Sun 19-May-13 12:44:45

Thanks for tights recs. Will make this my mission for Autumn/Winter. Will definitely keep eye out for Falke tights but maybe at sale prices. Thanks for grey links. Think some of my greys are not blue enough. That Parka looks perfect. Fab idea about finding Summer blog. Travel would be perfect - loving your advice Travel!

ellangirl Sun 19-May-13 12:49:04

Neither am I, I'm a 12. I actually tried it in a 12 and it was enormous so I sent it back and i've got my fingers crossed for the 8 to fit as the 12 was so big. I didn't check it against my swatch but it looks good colour.

issimma Sun 19-May-13 13:08:12

do it travel. I can vouch for your fab advice!

Marking my place - I'm a Deep Summer. Off to check out all the links now hides credit cards

orangeandemons Sun 19-May-13 13:17:14

Traveling, can you help me here? I look awful in brown, any brown, and yet they are the basis of all neutrals, and am peed off with it. Should I just give up?

The word nude sends me onto a decline. I look ill in nude, yet it's so fashionable atm

issimma Sun 19-May-13 13:18:00

You're all lovely, but I know from Hopefully and AmberNectarine that blogging can be a massive commitment. Would want to do it right.

orange lots of sweetpea summers are not so good in the browns.
Can you use plums / navy / greys as your neutrals?

grin at nude decline, it's pretty awful on me too. The closest summer shade is the pink beige, but it needs to still be cool - if it is actual beige, or worse, shell pink, it will look baaaad.

Broken link issimma here we are and yes, most of those are great.

wickedfairy Sun 19-May-13 16:00:34

Travel - please can I ask another question? I am a deep brown summer, so I look better with cooler colours within the palette? My skin is pale (blue veins) and brown hair, but no matter what colour of brown (ash or coppery), there is usually some red/coppery bits that show through in the light - so that is confusing me because that usually means warm, doesn't it?

Argh, this is so confusing....

issimma Sun 19-May-13 16:07:20

I was a tricky one to place - took much longer than the other 3 in the group, and was heading down the Spring/Autumn route to begin with. Then diagnosed as brown summer. Then diagnosed as sweetpea summer. So am a bit confused, and just tend to think it's ok if I wear any of the colours from the swatch book (apart from primrose - that was AWFUL on me), and try to think 'cool and muted'. That's partly why I started this thread grin.

Tempted by the white stuff parka but don't want to buy stuff until after the Style day that I will do with travel once the baby gets less clingy <sighs>. Just bought 2 100% cotton Ts in New Look - a brown pink and an airforce blue (I think. Need to find swatches and double check).

Do you like this scarf? May check it out in RL tomorrow.

SunshinePanda Sun 19-May-13 16:19:32

Issimma the scarf looks great. Also like the grey jacket in the scarf link. Do you think it is a Summer grey or as usual am I falling for another Winter grey? Can you link your New Look tops?

Hi wickedfairy. I'm a deep brown summer too. Not sure what you mean by looking better with cooler colours? My hair also looks reddish in some lights, particularly if I wear warmer colours (spent a bit of time thinking I was an Autumn). Natural hair colour is the best colour.

Was your hair covered during your analysis?

issimma scarf is OK, but I think expensive for what it is - looks no better than a cheapy ebay one. My feeling is that the star trend is bound to end soon too, but if you love it, go for it! rabbits anyone?

That Yoko jacket looks summer on my screen.

issimma Sun 19-May-13 16:28:23

panda these are the new look t shirts. The pink matches 28 (don't have booklet with names, sorry) and the blue is closest to 10. So not as pastelly as they look in the pictures.
I don't know about the grey jacket - I don't have a pale grey in my swatch book, so I guess it's a winter one?

issimma Sun 19-May-13 16:30:39

X post. Listen to travel not me!
I think white stuff scarves are ovepriced too, but it seems cheap compared to the Becksondergaard one I really want grin. Trip to Primark tomorrow, I reckon...

issimma Sun 19-May-13 16:31:50

I like the rabbits -currently sporting flamingos grin.

SunshinePanda Sun 19-May-13 17:15:06

Thanks Travel. Maybe I am getting the hang of greys after all. Got a Primark scarf couple of weeks ago, in my quest for neutrals, in soft white and greyish/ blue stripes. Might go well with your blue tee Issimma so think will check out tee in store. Can't remember if they had any starry scarves though.

wickedfairy Sun 19-May-13 17:35:45

Travel, thanks for your help. Yes, my hair was covered during the analysis but the lady said I was very difficult to place. For a long time she couldn't decide whether I was a deep brown summer or something else (I forget what). She decided in the end but I couldn't really see the difference.... I was on a group day but the other lady didn't show, was on my own and there for hours!

Does it mean I can be a deep brown summer if I have warmer looking hair? Natural hair not an option as it was mid-brown but now there is a high percentage of Gandalf-white (am only 35). The hairdresser tries too use an ash to kill the warm - should I be embracing it and dyeing my roots a "normal" brown and letting the copper show through? For some reason I thought my hair had to be cool??

ShotgunNotDoingThePans Sun 19-May-13 18:28:49

Another sweet pea summer here!
I agree with Travel on the shoes - it makes a huge difference to be able to wear pretty much any of your shoes with any outfit (assuming the style is appropriate). I do find it a nightmare in winter though. I've got a couple of ancient pairs of dark brown boots, plus these Ash Spirals in prune. I paid more than twicw that price though.
I have a few pairs of ballet pumps in navy, grey, dark red etc, plus I usually pick up a couple of pairs of coloured plimsolls in spring for walks to the beach on UK holidays. Sandals I have grey, blush, off-white, and about to get light blue from Boden. Am working on my collection of wvening shoes - was gutted when these beauties pinched my toes.
I've got the navy slingbacks from Boden but the straps slip off when I try and walk so will prob send them back.

With tights in winter, I tend to match them to the shoe, so navy with navy, brown with brown etc. I feel a bit scruffy if they don't match, maybe because I have a classic element to my style personality (Classic Ingénue).

I was tols a good tip for determining a winter white: man-made cibres tend to be true white, whereas naturals are normally winter/off-white.

I had my colours done about five years ago I think, and it's taken a long time to get to the stage where I can mix and match.

SunshinePanda Sun 19-May-13 18:42:54

Thanks Shotgun for shoe/ tight advice. Definitely think I need to match as well. Feeling inspired to buy more shoes as well as tights now for Autumn/Winter. Sandals, casual pumps and best shoes bought for specific outfits are all actually OK so it must be work where I turn to black. Must make more effort I think.

orangeandemons Sun 19-May-13 19:27:04

My hair has bright red lights in t. People often think it is dyed. It is chestnut colour. I have green eyes and tan easily. For ages I thought I suited warm colours because of my hair, but I don't. Am sweet pea summer through and through. I do find it misleading though, as cool palettes never mention reddish hair, but I look like death in any warm based colour

Shorty1980 Sun 19-May-13 20:00:20

Most helpful thread ever - thank you travel and everyone else, can I ask about nail varnish/make up? I have never in my 33 years found a lipstick that really suits me, now I know I'm a sweetpea summer what should I be looking for?

Similarly my nails at this moment are a delightful, and dare I say expensive, shade of coral - the colour consultant visibly winced - that's bad right? smile

ellangirl Sun 19-May-13 20:06:31

My hair has warmth in too. If I try to dye my hair myself it always goes red. The hairdresser has a job to keep it from going warm too, even when she uses dye with no warm tones in at all.

This thread has reminded me to use more colours and not just dress in neutral blues and greys like I normally do!

I have a wish list if anyone can help??

T shirts in pinks but looser fitting as I'm bf at the moment and not crew necked thanks to ginormous norks. The whitestuff ones however are too low and would show the hideous nursing bras!

Court shoes and ballet pumps in any summer neutral colour but wider fitting if possible.

Basic cardigans in summer colours?

If I were to buy superga, what would be a good go with anything colour that isn't dull! Want something other than grey or navy grin

orangeandemons Sun 19-May-13 20:26:37

Ooh yes, lipsticks. Too pale and I look washed out. Bluey/browny/pinky colour. Only ever found 2 in my entire life

Difficult to say about hair without seeing you - if you had copper in before, then that sounds fine - like I said, we don't use hair colour in the analysis process.

ellan maybe burgundy superga? or these pale blue
or sea green?

As I said earlier: use your wallet, see if it tones.

I rate Uniqlo for knitwear 1 and 62 are summer I think.

shorty Did you notice the coral drape going on? Not sure about you, but it makes me look fat and yellow. It's in both Autumn and Spring - very very warm.

Right, enough links from me - Normally I charge £45 ph for shopping trips! grin

issimma Sun 19-May-13 20:28:06

ellan snap on the bf-friendly tops. Boden scoop necks are good, not sure what colours they have at the moment. Will see how the new look ones fare, but tbh I usually hoik up what I'm wearing and flash the flesh...

I have iris superga. But I feel like a toddler in them - to do w style personality rather than colour though.

shorty I wear cool toned nail varnish. Warm tones like coral make me look like a corpse! Did your consultant recommend any lipstick?

Shorty1980 Sun 19-May-13 21:07:31

Issima I was only doing a short taster session so we didn't get into detail about make up - I'm going to book a full session when I reach my weight loss target (three stone down, one more to go grin). The coral swatch did look pretty awful on me... But obviously much larger surface area than my nails!

Re breast feeding tops, I bought a tummy band thingamajig and wore that under all my t-shirts to avoid terrifying the general public/ splashing out on expensive nursing clothes, sadly I think they were only available in black.

mewkins Sun 19-May-13 21:55:01

Issima, I had bought those exact same newlook t's about a month ago! Great minds think alike!

Got two lovely scarves today at a independent boutique place- a lovely muted raspberry one with dark grey horses and a dark grey/blue one. Scarves are like buses I find!!

ellangirl Sun 19-May-13 21:56:30

Issima what is the neckline like on those newlook t shirts? It looks high but says scoop neck on description? I prefer looser fitting tees for feeding because they don't get stretched so much!
Travel thank you. I will pay you with £45 of my gratitude! I like sea green ones smile Am looking at uniqlo knitwear now...

mewkins Sun 19-May-13 22:07:08

Ellan, sorry for chiming in- I like the neckline- am fussy and don like anything too high - these are fairly wide (something between a crew and a scoop). The fit of the tshirts themselves is fairly skimming and relaxed and they are lovely and soft.

ShotgunNotDoingThePans Sun 19-May-13 22:34:26

I find Hobbs cropped cardis pretty good. Also have a lovely one from Pure - not sure how the quality is this season. Find Uniqlo rather shapeless but maybe that's cuz I is an hourglass.

ShotgunNotDoingThePans Sun 19-May-13 22:36:52

Sorry meant LK Bennett for cards.

ShotgunNotDoingThePans Sun 19-May-13 22:42:26

cardis!
Sotted these cute plimsolls - bit less workman-like.

ellan I will happily accept brew and flowers.
This type of shopping is much easier than the real life kind. smile

Brora is the most brilliant cashmere, and they often have real depth to their colours, as I think they blend colours in the dying process. I am swooning at their indigo.
Seriously £££ though. I'm almost grateful that they don't do many styles that suit me, though if I had the funds I would be snapping up this in the navy

ellangirl Mon 20-May-13 19:43:13

Mewkins thanks, going to give them a try smile
Shotgun and travel, I would love to buy lovely knitwear from those places but budget just won't go that far! Plus, they'd get food and baby puke on. One day though, one day!

SunshinePanda Mon 20-May-13 20:26:14

With regards to make up, I use lip gloss rather than lipstick. I find that I can choose a deeper shade without it overpowering. Probably not much use as I buy in France but love Sephora and have got 4 different shades.
www.sephora.com/glossy-gloss-P286035?skuId=1480011
Also buy their nail varnish. I think it's best to use your swatch as a guide. I seem to suit natural colours on hands and bolder choices in feet.

ShotgunNotDoingThePans Mon 20-May-13 21:25:01

Saw some cropped cardis in New Look today for a tenner. They had navy and taupe, and the coral red which always surprises me when I realise I'm 'allowed' it!
(Am not obsessed with cardis, honestly! --I am--)

What else? Oh, nice blush-coloured sandals with a bit of bling stuck on. Also navy lace ballet pumps, and navy 'suede' low-heeled courts, which were a gorgeous cut and perfect height but pinched my freakish toes.

Also a few navy/off-white jersey blazers.

Always swathes of black everywhere, though

I find navy is my alternative to black with shoes - goes with everything and can look smart, especially the patent version. Or maybe I like that because I'm too lazy to keep suede or leather properly clean!

ShotgunNotDoingThePans Mon 20-May-13 21:27:23

Meant to say, that gloss looks worth trying. I tend to use gloss as well - I'm self-conscious about drawing attention to my teeth, plus lippy can look a bit harsh now that I'm nearly 50. Juicy Tubes have been my brand of choice so far - might branch out.

For Summers who are good in the mushrooms and browns, I can recommend the one non-HoC lipstick I wear, which is Blushing Nude by Clinique. It is a perfect nude lipstick for me.

issimma Tue 21-May-13 11:40:22

The new look Ts are great!

Rimmel vintage pink is my nude lipstick. Or was until dd ate the end of it.

SunshinePanda Tue 21-May-13 17:08:30

Shotgun thanks for tracking down cropped cardis in neutrals. I am very partial to a cropped cardi as well! Bought a long (for a change) navy cardigan from New Look in the Autumn. Exactly the right shade but it has strange sloping shoulders and does me no favours at all. Whereas long line Uniqlo cardi is much more streamlined. But think little cardis are definitely best on me.
My favourite nude shade from my Sephora link is Rusted Rose. Travel is the Clinique lipstick very moisturising? My lips require loads of lip balm unless I use Sephora gloss.
Frugal with regards navy court shoes etc beginning to think, after this thread and online searching, that suede and patent are more modern than leather. Also suede looks good in grey. What does anyone else think?

SunshinePanda Tue 21-May-13 17:13:34

Issimma smile at DD eating rimmel vintage pink! (Hopes smiley face works as first time at trying this if not then the intention was there at least)!

mewkins Tue 21-May-13 18:26:44

What colour eyeshadow does everyone go for? Have grey eyes and tend to stick to taupe or grey sometimes neutrals. Would like to experiment with some colour - have got a lovely indigo one waiting to be tried and a lighter mauve (used to wear similar when younger and had good feedback) but need to try out. Any inspiration?

sunshine suede only works for me for casual - it's too natural for me otherwise. Similarly, patent is a bit too dramatic. Do you know your clothing personality/personal style? (the next step of the HoC journey). This helps work out why some clothes / shapes / fabrics work much better than others.

I find the Clinique lipstick moisturising but it really doesn't stay put, and that bugs me, because I am used to the HoC ones having immense staying power.

mewkin I have very dark brown eyes. My everyday eyeshadow look is some variety of pale pink / pinkish beige wash and then either: heather grey on outer half of lids or eyeliner in navy or dark purple. For evenings I also use dark blue or dark brown as an accent colour, and use eyeshadow as an eyeliner underneath too. I wear brown mascara usually, it's better than navy for me.

So, I would try the light mauve as an all over wash and then use the indigo with a wet brush as liner.

ShotgunNotDoingThePans Tue 21-May-13 19:34:13

I have deepset eyes so have to wear the palest of pale, but quite vivid, shades, if that makes sense.
I currently mainly use a Bourgeois pink - the lightest they have. It's slightly on the frosty side for day but I haven't found an alternative that doesn't look like talcum powder.
I did have a HoC make up session but she made me up far more heavily than I would. It did look good, but I felt the HoC lilac she used was a bit reddening on me. It was a revelation, though - I'd been using browns/taupes for years as that seemed to be what all the magazines were telling people to wear, but she gave me 'permission' to go back to the pinks and mauves I'd instinctively worn as a teenager.

I bought the HoC lilac/grey palette, but tbh I don't particularly rate their eyeshadows. They're probably fine for people who don't need their eyes 'bringing forward,' but for me they don't really do the difficult job I require from an eyeshadow!
(My eyes are quite a vivid blue).
I always use navy mascara - I like the Lancôme one atm.

madmomma Tue 21-May-13 19:35:08

Thanks for this thread. I'm a pastel summer and I really don't want to dress like a vase of sweetpeas sad I'm taking the softly softly approach, but I have found that l'oreal do a lovely navy mascara and mac eye pencil in phone number is replacing my black one quite comfortably. Can't do scarves though.

madmomma I'm up for a scarf challenge grin

Do you wear them at all? If not, is it because they feel too big? Too drapey? Too fussy?

I wear my scarves like a retro air hostess, tight round the neck and neatly knotted. However on others that would be awful.

ShotgunNotDoingThePans Tue 21-May-13 19:46:47

< Awaits scarf advice with interest >

madmomma Tue 21-May-13 19:52:01

travel I've given up wearing them because they seem to wear me IYSWIM? I just feel too trussed up in them. I also find them a bit visually irritating on others sometimes. Dunno why. I can feel a style day coming on...

madmomma Tue 21-May-13 19:53:02

hmm yes maybe if I tied them differently... I think they accentuate my heavy bust.

mewkins Tue 21-May-13 20:09:06

Thanks for the eyeshadow tips- going to try out the lilac esp. for summer. Compared to you guys I wear quite heavy eye make up (and rarely lipstick etc) but then as a cool summer I think that's ok (unless am very much mistaken)!

Re. Scarves I like a bigger scarf (not the long skinny kind). Have you tried tying them corner to opposing corner to make it into a snoop type loop? It's very easy to wear as you don't have to keep re-tying.

Also leant a knot that makes it look kind of woven which works with most wider scarves. Pinterest is good for scarf tricks!

SunshinePanda Tue 21-May-13 20:30:46

Travel, I probably use suede for casual and I do have some nude patent wedges from last year that I love so navy patent would work for me, especially for work and smarter occasions. I also love mauve, plum and bergundy tones so I can imagine that formula working as well.

I did have a style day but it was a long time ago. I think I was an ingenue. I'm definitely not a curvy type, not dramatic, probably more classic than I used to be but I like to be trendy still. Not sure what that makes me now! Found Trinny and Susannah more useful for style.

As for eye make up love plum, heather shades. Not keen on navy mascara prefer brown or brown/ black (dark brown!), and love this eyeliner www.boots.com/en/No7-Stay-Perfect-Amazing-Eyes-Pencil_1273226/
Blusher www.boots.com/en/Bourjois-Little-Round-Pot-Blusher_1395/ in rosé de jaspe

This is the ultimate scarf tying guide and there are links to slowed down versions. Just watched it, and because I need neat styles, I do the turtlneck, the mira, the celebrity and the boa. smile Mostly I wear silk scarves though, so it's a bit different.

Re, eyemakeup, I wear glasses, and also have limited time, so I don't wear a lot of make up, despite being a consultant! One of the things which I find makes a big difference is pencilling in my eyebrows to make them stronger (obviously make sure they are a great shape first).

issimma Wed 22-May-13 10:39:28

Scarfs annoy me - they're just too big and cumbersome and flappy.

I have a new style icon - jo wiley! And look, a nice summer grey in this photo.

My personality style is classic and gamine (rule follower, cheeky); looks wise natural and dramatic (tall, angular). travel is booked in to give me the final verdict once the clingy baby deigns to be put down.

Blimey, Why have I never noticed before that you look like Jo Whiley? No classic in her though - can you imagine her in a suit and pearls? hmmgrin

issimma Wed 22-May-13 10:58:01

I am such a wannabe rock chick!

Today's hunt: a long, thin necklace, ending in a tassel (sp?); budget minimal. I am going to a wedding evening do and rather than trying to smarten self up, am going in jersey dress and suede boots, w aforementioned necklace. Am probably deluded or hormonal, but starting to think I'm not classic at all - would explain why I'm the only person on this thread shuddering at all these cropped cardis :D The only kind I can wear are boyfriend ones.

practicality Wed 22-May-13 14:07:20

The White Company palette seems to revolve around summer colours. What do you think? Is the Ash Rose a summer colour?It all seems very muted and cool for the main part.

practicality Wed 22-May-13 14:09:27

this ?

orangeandemons Wed 22-May-13 16:31:39

That dress would make me look awful. Too browny/beige

SunshinePanda Wed 22-May-13 17:10:20

The dress would not look good on me at all, like wearing a sack. Like the necklace though - any good for Issimma?

With regard to knitwear, I can't abide any chunky knits on me. Shame really because I really feel the cold. Not sure if a cropped cardi makes you a classic, especially if you wear it rather than a blazer/ suit jacket, which is another item that doesn't look right on me when I wear one. Much more a top (or layered tops), cardi, with scarf or necklace type. What do you think - does cropped cardi = classic?

madmomma Wed 22-May-13 19:19:15

thanks for the scarfy tips ladies - will investigate smile

There are as many different cropped cardi's as clothing personalities, I think! I have classic in my CP, but cropped anything is wrong on me because of my proportions. Without doing a style day with an individual I can't really say if a particular garment works for them.

The Ash rose White Co pyjamas are definitely summer, that I can see.

SunshinePanda Wed 22-May-13 20:00:27

Thanks Travel for cardi talk. I know cropped really suit my proportions and figure. Don't know why but classic just sounds a bit boring. I always think carefully about proportions and what clothes do for my shape, usually anything that adds leg length is a must!

issimma Wed 22-May-13 20:22:52

sunshine I'm the opposite - cropped arms make me look like I've squeezed myself into DD's clothes! Don't mind cropped trousers, although narrow legged only to avoid pirate chic!

About to order the necklace. Thanks grin

ShotgunNotDoingThePans Wed 22-May-13 23:33:13

I don't think cropped cardis are necessarily classic. I just know they suit my shape better than boxy or loose (hourglass). I also have a few shrugs, and, as an sahm who is also a classic (classic ingénue), I can categorically state that I never wear suits!
I do have to have my hair reasonably 'done' though, and I love a fitted jacket/blazer. I also look ridiculous in anything remotely masculine.

practicality Wed 22-May-13 23:39:13

SorrY should have said-the link was for the necklace NOT the dress.

dontkno Thu 23-May-13 08:57:13

hi i find this thread very interesting. i have been doing my own research about my colours for the last few months, Im a summer for sure, either a cool or a true summer. i can't afford to get my colours done properly. i started by giving away a lot of peach clothes, and it broke my heart as they were gorgeous, but they totally didn't suit me unless i was so tanned with loads of make up! the other thing is i have a beautiful designer gold dress. its a palish gold, and i felt it did look great on me when i wore it. any tips for pulling off the clothes you can't get rid off yet? like if you are wearing the wrong colour do you change your make up etc? lol

also, my hair used to be platinum blonde and looked great, but i can't keep that up now. now it is an ash brown, and i recently got highlights put in - i really don't like these highlights. they look bronzy to me, they just look the wrong colour, not ashy enough. but the hairdresser said if she put ash highlights in, my hair would look grey. so i am thinking of dying my hair dark ash brown. i have had comments that my skin tone is too light for dark brown hair, but i have seen lots of people (think courtney cox) who look beautiful with dark hair and light skin and blue eyes, so i think if i wear a bit more make up it might look ok and not gothy. any thoughts?

Maraki Thu 23-May-13 14:34:08

I shouldn't be allowed to post on this thread, as I am a HOC Winter imposter but I thought you might like this. A selection of eyeshadows and blushers from MAC for Summers. Be sure to scroll down as a couple of the colours are proven to be Autumn colours.
Hope this is helpful to someone x

dontkno When a client has to wear a particular colour which is not good for them, like a uniform, the advice is to focus on ensuring hair / make-up / earrings / necklace are all right. The things right next to your face will make the most difference.

Or sell the dress, and use the funds to get your colours done properly! wink

SunshinePanda Thu 23-May-13 15:17:24

Issimma grin pirate chic! Interested to know what necklace is like in RL.

Shotgun I think the reason you like a fitted blazer is the exact reason why I don't wear them as I'm definitely not an hour glass. The cardis work though because they split up my long torso.

Maraki thanks for crossing over to the other side for us. wink

Travel I have cleared out some black work trousers and boots. Think I have got enough other clothes not to miss them. This thread is great! smile

I am now on a quest for a new bag, smallish with a strap that can go across body. Leather if possible but under £50. Not a Radley type, something more slouchy maybe. Any ideas?

dontkno Thu 23-May-13 15:18:59

thanks travel! im sure it is so rewarding being a colour consultant!

so u have everything else summer toned except the offending colour. oh i can't get rid of the dress it is totally utterly beautiful and it has sentimental value too! i need to try to pull it off!

still indecisive about the hair! i would love to go for that dirty blonde colour but i think it is so hard for the hairdressers to get it right. told mum i was going to get dark ash brown and she freaked out and said not to ask her what she thought after i got it done! its funny cos my dad had black hair, pale skin and blue eyes so that skin tone is somewhere in the family.

SunshinePanda Thu 23-May-13 16:23:37

Dontkno a hairdresser should be able to get your hair how you want it. I have highlights and my natural hair colour sounds similar to yours. I know I have more than 1 shade, 3 I think but not sure exactly what. Can you choose from the shade chart they must have. Do you think the colour wasn't on long enough if it went brassy? Either that or they've chosen the wrong shades. Someone will be able to do it right. My hair doesn't look good without highlights, even with my best colours and perfect make up.

dontkno Thu 23-May-13 22:19:17

sunshine maybe the colour needed to be on longer, but actually i think i need to go to another hairdresser. my hairdresser never gave me the option of anymore colours, she just said she needed to bleach highlights on. i need to go to someone experienced with colours to get something i'm happy with and that suits my skin tone! 3 shades sounds a good blend im glad you found the right colour for you!

issimma Fri 24-May-13 13:27:52

I went for the necklace at the bottom of this page in the end www.next.co.uk/x51106s2?utm_source=google&utm_medium=PLA&utm_campaign=googlpla and love it!

sunshine oushka have bags in summer colours. Over budget, but must be sale time soon! I like this one in duck egg.

And thanks for the make up link maraki.

AlwaysSleepingBeauty Fri 24-May-13 17:17:46

I can't decide if I am a Winter or a Summer, but this thread has been very useful, so I thought as a lurker I had better say thank you. I can't afford to have my colours done at the moment either.

SunshinePanda Fri 24-May-13 17:22:14

Thanks Issimma, those bags look lovely. Actually I really like the larger Dover bag, although not the size I'm meant to be searching for. You are spot on with the colours as well. Think that finding suitable bags now ready to snap up in sale season may be the best option for my budget. Bet your necklace will look lovely.

Found this Facebook page Style for Summers

rubyrubyruby Sat 25-May-13 21:11:45

Me me me! I'm a summer

Soft Summer to be precise smile

Some good links on that MrsAR The yellow is not right, but loads of great things.

Hi ruby!

tartiflette Tue 28-May-13 19:22:24

Ooh lovely, just adding myself and will read back properly now. I'm a Brown Summer.

One thing I've realised since having mine done about a year ago is the importance of wearing lipstick to avoid looking long dead. My favourites are the Rouge Coco Shine ones by Chanel, very low maintenance - Monte Carlo for a wearable red, Boy for natural and Romance for a nice bright pink (which quite possibly looks ridiculous on a 35 year old grin )

I haven't done much in the way of adding things to my wardrobe as it's been a cash-strapped year, but have certainly avoided a LOT of purchases.

I bought a great dress from TU at Sainsbury this weekend. It's not on their website, unfortunately. Broderie Anglaise top layer sundress in navy blue. High neck, front kick pleat, sleeveless, pockets. It's fabulous and looks good with my new (ebay) bonkers Hasbeens.

ShotgunNotDoingThePans Tue 28-May-13 23:33:05

That sounds lovely - and rather similar to one I bought crom Gap the other week: this in navy - broderie anglaise with pockets set into the seams so really well-concealed; can't be doing with any extra bulk around the hips.

ellangirl Thu 30-May-13 19:08:29

I got the t shirts from newlook- lovely summer colours, thanks for recommendation! Also got wedgewood blue coloured hoodie for slobbing lounging around smile

issimma Fri 31-May-13 15:01:26

Same tartiflette - I've dodged some purchases rather than buying lots.

This week I got some blue birkies from tk maxx, so you can blame me for the pisspoor weather.

Glad to see lots of summer colours coming into the shops though. Looking for some thin, boyfriend style cardis...

ShotgunNotDoingThePans Fri 31-May-13 17:31:05
tartiflette Fri 31-May-13 21:31:01

That's a lovely colour Shotgun

tiredteddy Fri 31-May-13 21:45:44

Hi, I've been watching this thread for a little while. I had a colour analysis done in feb for my birthday and was surprised to find out I'm a summer. I was expecting to be spring due to my taste for the bright and bold and my redish hair. However summer I am. Can I join you all?

ShotgunNotDoingThePans Fri 31-May-13 22:53:56

Sure thing babes grin. How are you finding it?

issimma Sat 01-Jun-13 06:11:35

Like that shotgun thanks, but a bit longer [fussy], and without buttons.
The closest one I've seen is in Tesco hmm.

welcome teddy.

tiredteddy Sat 01-Jun-13 20:03:49

Hi Issima!

Shotgun, found it quite easy to fins lots of basics especially in H&M for ling vests and slouchy t-shirts. There's also more in my wardrobe than I realised that is in the right colours too. However what I really adore style wise is prints. These are proving much harder to find. I'm also on a lower budget really too.

ShotgunNotDoingThePans Sat 01-Jun-13 21:16:55

Know what you mean about the prints; I still don't have many several years after my analysis.
I did get a couple of t-shirts in Uniqlo recently - the Greengate collection. I'm sure there were others as well.
Issima, maybe just get the Tesco one then. When you're wanting to build a wardrobe of the right colours, sometimes it's best to get things when you see them rather than waiting for the perfect example.
You might then see another at a later date.

issimma Wed 05-Jun-13 15:40:45

I just ordered this - you likey?
Now I'm looking for a T like the one in the pic but off-white and less than £20 unless perfect <ignores foul weather>.

SunshinePanda Wed 05-Jun-13 16:40:32

Yes Issimma, it looks great- perfect colour and also stylish in a casual way. A good find. Looks lovely with those sandals, but would work well with flats as well, I think.

ShotgunNotDoingThePans Wed 05-Jun-13 20:51:51

Lovely skirt. I like the top as well - good colours.
Anyone looking for a printed skirt, Zara have a few:
here; here; here; here; here; here; here - oh, you get the idea!
< Bored now > smile

Ha, had been eyeing up that hush skirt for aaaages, but too ruched for me. Great GREAT colour.

tiredteddy Thu 06-Jun-13 11:02:57

Another one saying that skirt is lovely! I'm very tempted too. Just off to look at the Zara skirts now...

issimma Thu 06-Jun-13 14:43:23

There's 12% cashback at hush through quidco, and free D&R with SUM131 code <enables mass purchasing of whale skirt>...

ProjectGainsborough Mon 10-Jun-13 22:46:00

I knew there would be a thread on here somewhere! Can I join in please?

Just been diagnosed (?) a deep summer. Bought one french navy scarf from Accessorize on the way home and two heavily pigmented lipsticks which I can't bring myself to wear.

Going to get my hair fixed tomorrow. Aiming for this, but maybe a bit darker...

Currently it's a bit ginge, which obviously is not good for summers.

SunshinePanda Wed 19-Jun-13 16:23:40

Just taken delivery of this bag. www.oasis-stores.com/nubuck%20cross%20body%20bag/summer-festival/Oasis/fcp-product/5330032515 It is a lovely blue grey IRL. Really pleased with it, especially at that price.
A belated welcome PGainsborough. How did you get on with Summer hair colour at hairdressers?
Issimma did you order the skirt and if so what is it like? Hush seem to have a few items in whale! I also like the wrap over skirt and the maxi dresses. May keep an eye open for the sale.
Anyone else got their eye on any prospective Summer sale items?

I've got that bag although didn't get it in sale! It matches matches my grey knee high boots perfectly smile Have lost a tassel of it already though.

ProjectGainsborough Wed 19-Jun-13 21:50:25

Hm. Thanks. Hair a mixed bag. Love the cut, but think the colours are still a bit red for me. HOC consultant recommended finding a Japanese hairdresser as they understand cooler colours, so may give that a go next time.

I love the bag. Am sitting on my hands now as this has already cost me a fortune.

Sal77 Fri 21-Jun-13 10:15:12

I'm a Summer! I had my colours done about three years ago. I find that sometimes it's a real struggle to find colours in the shops (although navy is always easy to find).

If you are still struggling with your colours I'd highly recommend having your Style Day done with them. I have virtually no mistakes in my wardrobe now as a result, I really understand what it is I'm looking for when out shopping. It's made such a difference.

wickedfairy Fri 21-Jun-13 11:57:17

Sunshine, thank you for linking to that Oasis bag, it's exactly what I've been looking for!!! Have ordered it, along with some navy ballet pumps, am eagerly awaiting deliverysmilesmile

wickedfairy Fri 21-Jun-13 11:58:43

PGainsborough - that's a lovely hair do!! Gave you had it done yet? How did it turn out, if you have?

BeingMoreDog Wed 31-Jul-13 08:53:43

Bit early perhaps, but has anyone spotted a winter coat (duffle coat) and boots in summer colours?

angelinajelly Wed 31-Jul-13 22:32:39

Hello all, another Soft Summer here. Interesting to read what others said upthread about reddish hair- mine is light/medium brown with very strong red tints that get stronger when it has been exposed to the sun. I think it's the same pigment that gives cool-toned pink skin. Online self-analysis things never allow for it, they always insist that Summers have to have ashy/greyish hair. But I'm definitely Summer- my eyes are that weird colour that reflects green, grey or blue depending on what I wear, I look best in pretty much any mid-range shade of blue/green/turquoise or purple/pink, and orange, true red, bright yellow and beige all make me look like a corpse.

Re lipstick, I think it's so hard for a Summer to find the right shade- it has to be bang-on neutral browny pink to work well on me. Not ever red. Whichever idiot said there's a red lipstick for everyone left off "except Summers", imho.

shoeprincess2 Thu 08-Aug-13 07:25:28

angelinajelly- light summer here. Agree with the lack of red lipsticks for us. I have found a lovely neutral pinky brown- no 7 sheer temptation in caramel kiss.

rubyrubyruby Thu 08-Aug-13 07:58:37

I'm a summer smile

Anyone bought anything recently to inspire me?!? <credit card at the ready> grin

muser31 Tue 20-Aug-13 15:59:51

i am a summer and found a lovely lipstick called maybelline non stop red. its very red but its blue based and it is very striking. i wear it with some mascara and it looks really nice with my pale skin and blue eyes.

I still haven't braved the bright red lipstick - maybe it's time to try!

LonelyGoatherd Mon 26-Aug-13 14:43:16

just bumping this thread - on a no-buy mission until I get my personal style sorted. We need to keep up with the other seasonal threads and I want to see pretty links.

shitbiscuit Wed 28-Aug-13 23:34:40

Hi guys. Pastel summer signing in (I'm usually madmomma but namechanged and can't bloody change back!)

What's everyone planning to wear for A/W?

I'm all about dresses atm as am very lardy and can't tolerate any kind of waistband. I'm only really just starting to make sense of my colours really, even though I had them done over a year ago.

Has anyone had the style day? Is it worth doing?

LonelyGoatherd Thu 29-Aug-13 11:50:33

I'm doing the style day soon as I'm still pretty clueless.

So, what's everyone wearing today? I'm in my uniform of skinnies/flip flops and T in my colours - see, I need style day big time!

madmomma Thu 29-Aug-13 20:19:35

I'm in a fairly lame outfit of breton vest and blue summer joggers from Isabella Oliver. With flipflops. blush

Cherry red t-shirt, dark denim skirt with buttons on the front, pale grey trilby, silver & white sandals, dotty grey & white zip hoodie over the top.

I am a big fan of the style day (disclaimer etc.) grin

MidnightHag Fri 30-Aug-13 08:43:36

I am a dark (anemone) summer and I did the style day. It was good fun. I recommend you take along your favourite outfits to check whether they suit you.
I was classified as a classic gamine, which I'm happy with. My only problem is that one of my closest friends, who is also a dark summer is a natural gamine, but is a size 8 to my 12. Consequently i always think she looks better in "my" styles.

3hens Fri 30-Aug-13 09:36:06

Navy and dusky pink oldish patterned Jasmine Guinness dress, black leather wooden heeled sandals, silver watch. That's it. Underwear, obviously. Sounds a bit sparse, I don't think it looks sparse, belt, collar buttons pattern on the dress, adds a bit of busy-ness.

Am v interested in this thread. I find winter clothes the most difficult to buy in the right colours. Has anyone bought anything?

Midnight I'm a curvy gamine too - it is more of a challenge!

3hens Fri 30-Aug-13 11:36:28

I would love a style day. Does it teach you how to recognise say, what a 'curvy gamine' top/cardigan/skirt/whatever looks like? Best shops for your personality etc? My idea of it is that it would make shopping a lot easier and faster! I've tried to DIY my style personality myself and I just can't do it.

Yes, all that and more. grin

tartiflette Fri 30-Aug-13 13:16:07

Oh I'm so desperate to do the style day
Do you do it alone or in a group like the colour day?

MidnightHag Fri 30-Aug-13 16:18:41

I think both style and colour sessions work best with a small group of friends. It's easier to spot what works on someone else, often.
You may find that following the session you can swap clothes and makeup: my "autumn" friend got my orange/green items and she gave me lots of pink/blue stuff.

angelinajelly Fri 30-Aug-13 17:34:25

What is an anemone Summer, Midnight? I haven't heard of that before.

Casmama Fri 30-Aug-13 19:31:41

I think anemone summer is a deep summer. I am a deep summer and was told to mix colours to look like a bunch of asters or anemones

ILikeToClean Fri 30-Aug-13 19:37:46

Hi, can I join? Had my colours done a couple of weeks ago, was eventually diagnosed as a deep summer and have gone through my wardrobe chucking out the black, now have very limited wardrobe! I am procrastinating about what to buy, I am not very adventurous with colour so can see myself buying a lot of navy! I know what suits me shapewise, so am trying to find things to put together a capsule wardrobe that will all go together. The colour day was the easy bit! Now the real work starts...am thinking grey and navy will be my base colours, jazzed up with raspberry and green, all of these were my double star colours. It's so hard to find things that are the exact colour though...have looked on Kettlewell but anything I like they don't have in my size!

BigBrassBand Sun 01-Sep-13 13:26:53

Hello all Summers! I am a self-diagnosed (guesswork and elimination) Soft Summer. Have found this very useful, got rid of all my black and am replacing things with colours that suit me.
Here's a Pinterest board I found yesterday, not sure how accurate all the colours are but some of the styles are gorgeous. pinterest.com/finefettlepin/soft-summer-color-palette-fashion/

3hens Sun 01-Sep-13 14:12:56

Can't open your link, BigBrass Pinterest has been a bit off lately.

Has anyone come across and HoC summer Autumn boards, if that makes any sense?

LonelyGoatherd Sun 01-Sep-13 17:05:26

I got the wrap catalogue through recently and there seemed to be lots of summer autumn colours. I quite like this sparkly sweater but am waiting for style day (and a massive reduction in price) before I commit.

For anyone with a Natural leaning in their Clothing personality, Poetry seems to have loads of summer stuff.

3hens Sun 01-Sep-13 19:42:34

Travel is diagnosing your clothing personality as difficult as diagnosing your colour season? Could I do it myself? I've tried and tried and I just can't. But maybe I haven't tried hard enough??

3hens Sun 01-Sep-13 19:44:05

I really like this look. Is that a Natural?

3hens If it was that easy, no one would pay trained consultants to do it!

3hens Sun 01-Sep-13 20:14:35

True grin
It's quite a faff for me to get to a consultant. I'll just have to do it tho.

orangeandemons Sun 01-Sep-13 21:06:30

Shirt biscuit, I just bought this. www.uniqlo.com/uk/store/goods/080926. It's a perfect summer colour, but looks a bit red in the picture. It's the sort of colour I've been searching for for years. It's a sort of marl/melange

orangeandemons Sun 01-Sep-13 21:12:40

Agree about the wrap knitwear, my fingers were itching, such a nice change from dreary dull colours. Some shops just seem to cater for summers more than others. Eg White stuff and Mistral are really summery, but I hate the styling.

I am also a summer with very reddish hair. Have just caught sight of myself in the mirror and it looks like bright chestnut. Very unsummery grin

orangeandemons Sun 01-Sep-13 21:17:11

Last post: I used to be a ladies wear designer, and always reached for dusky pink, blues and greys, when planning colours. I do think that each shop is driven by the colours which suit it's designers, even though its unconscious. I remember having a big row with another designer who was probably an Autumn about her colour choices. Along the lines of " who's going to wear that horrible mustard yellow?" We didn't know about colours then

madmomma Sun 01-Sep-13 23:09:57

grin @ shirt biscuit. (tis I). orange I love that dress and what good value too! Is the online uniqlo service any good? There isn't one near me.

orangeandemons Mon 02-Sep-13 15:28:27

Yes, they 're great. Really quick delivery. I bought the blue one too. However, I do have concerns that if I had a white headress thing on with it, I wold look like the Virgin Mary!

wrenster Wed 11-Sep-13 21:28:57

Hi ladies can I join?

I had my colours done today and I'm a summer which I'm very pleased about. I have my style day on Monday so I'm holding off any major culling until then but I cannot wait to do it.

Anyone had any good finds yet for A/W wear?

Hi wrenster!
<waves>

I have done really well and not bought anything for AGES.

But then I am very very fussy. grin

I really need a new winter coat. Must be, mostly wool, single breasted, fitted, knee length, not have a funnel or massive collar. Think neat, unfussy.

Hello everyone. Had a bit of a Boden splurge before 20% off expires tonight:

Apologies for lack of links, but these are all Summer. I'm a full Gamine, for those who know the style thing, but most of these would work for some other clothing personalities.

Lois Skirt
Item code: WG508
Colour: AQU , Aquamarine

Autumn Breton
Item code: WL751
Colour: NAV , Navy & Ivory Stripe

Cashmere Crew Neck Jumper
Item code: WK853
Colour: IVO , Ivory/Pop Pink/Navy
Size: 12

Merino Collared Jumper
Item code: WK877
Colour: PRP , Sweet Pea/Navy

Breadwinner Skirt
Item code: WQ062
Colour: DPR , Fig

Hamptons Tee
Item code: WL770
Colour: NAV , Navy & Ivory Stripe

Sixties Mini
Item code: WG496
Colour: NAV , Navy

Straightleg Jeans
Item code: WC115
Colour: GRY , Gunpowder Cord

Pleat Sleeve Top
Item code: WA458
Colour: GRP , Grape & Berry

Military Wool Jacket
Item code: WE404
Colour: NAV , Navy Herringbone

SunshinePanda Thu 12-Sep-13 22:53:43

Travel I now need to intercept your Boden order! grin I particularly love the skirts and the jacket. I have a similar style jacket and my winter coat is military style as well. I have only bought a 3 quarter sleeved slash neck tee from D Perkins in mulberry and a couple of toning vest tops to layer under it so far. Need shoes and boots but no luck so far. Have never ordered from Boden but tempted by skirts...

I am particularly looking forward to the 'breadwinner skirt' (wtf?) as my current work wardrobe has somewhat of an over reliance on navy.

SunshinePanda Fri 13-Sep-13 07:20:13

I adore that colour and it features quite strongly in my wardrobe at times! Really like the shape of the other 2 skirts. Would like to know what the length of the mini is like when it arrives. Looks like a good Summer navy and I am still on a neutrals quest from when this thread originally started.

SunshinePanda Fri 13-Sep-13 07:20:15

I adore that colour and it features quite strongly in my wardrobe at times! Really like the shape of the other 2 skirts. Would like to know what the length of the mini is like when it arrives. Looks like a good Summer navy and I am still on a neutrals quest from when this thread originally started.

SunshinePanda Sun 22-Sep-13 11:30:53

On my mission to stay away from black footwear this A/W, I spent yesterday hunting for alternatives. Couldn't find any navy leather pumps - anyone help?

But in Primark did in desperation to get a cheap pair for now stumbled across real suede raspberry ballet pumps, which are absolutely gorgeous. As well bought tights in berry, grey, and navy in readiness for new purchases.

Also on route to lingerie dept in M&S (only part of M&S except for food and uniform I ever bother with) got some charcoal suede ankle boots.
www.marksandspencer.com/Indigo-Collection-Suede-Elasticated-Insolia®/dp/B00401WU2Q?ie=UTF8&ref=sr_1_3&nodeId=42966030&sr=1-3&qid=1379845634&pf_rd_r=1QWRPBCS9CZJBAYB2R0N&pf_rd_m=A2BO0OYVBKIQJM&pf_rd_t=301&pf_rd_i=0&pf_rd_p=321381407&pf_rd_s=center-3
Although they are a very dark grey they tone well with swatches look so much better than black and look fab with my new Topshop Baxter jeans I got yesterday as well.

Anyone else had A/W success yet? Travel how was your Boden order?

I am also on a mission for navy, and must be leather not suede. It is an ongoing thing. Really difficult to find. Closest are these also M&S

Boden order was mostly awful, though I may keep the Lois skirt. Not sure about exposed zip but colour is fantastic.

SunshinePanda Mon 23-Sep-13 19:03:51

Travel was it the cut or the quality that was lacking? Pleased I didn't try to intercept your order now! grin I like the cut and colour of the Lois skirt but personally would probably choose a top rather than skirt in that colour but maybe I should try to mix things up a bit more.
Didn't see those boots in M&S. I like the colour but prefer the style of mine. Still can't believe that navy is so hard to find at the moment nearly bought navy ballet pumps in the summer - wish I had now.

What has happened to all the other Summers? Is no one else reading this now or is it just too tricky to find A/W stuff for us Summers?!

No idea! There seem to be many more of the other seasons. It was mostly the cut not being right. But the stripy jumper was bad colours, and the navy was too dark in the bretons.

SunshinePanda Tue 24-Sep-13 20:24:07

The cut of a skirt can make such a difference. I also tried on a Breton, which I had high hopes for, but the stripes were too dark and I looked blotchy - at least I know this colour analysis stuff works!grin grin

LonelyGoatherd Wed 25-Sep-13 16:28:04

I'm here! And as no surprise to travel (cos she sent me the links IRL) here are my two recent purchases (both w generous discount codes) that I'm waiting for
silk top in plum
navy heels in navy

I also tried and returned the M&S £17.50 patent navy courts - really odd fit (or maybe that's just my hooves).

Anyway, this may bump us back to page 1 and perhaps flush out some more Summers...

Hi ladies,

I recently bought this bracelet Wallis

and these ballet pumps
M&S

loubielou31 Wed 25-Sep-13 17:20:56

How did I not know this thread existed!!!!
I had my colours done nearly two years ago, Sweet Pea Summer, Natural Romantic clothing.
Thing is I still HATE shopping, I have to say that (most) thhings I buy now do look much better than before but it is definitely an ongoing process.

I have to buy an outfit for my DBs wedding at Christmas, so I will have to hit the shops a bit. I'll pop some links up if I spot anything on my forays. (Also buying our first house so have to find clothes on shoestring budgets)

I did try on a gorgeous aubergine dress in HoF on Monday, too long for me though, and much to £££. I can't find it online, the colour was lovely.

SunshinePanda Wed 25-Sep-13 19:06:01

Waves to fellow Summers smile Good to see some navy shoe links although I think I would prefer plain leather.
The bracelet looks like a really good buy.
There are lots of berry and aubergine shades around at the moment so if you give us an idea of what you want maybe we could help you out LoubieLou.

SunshinePanda Wed 25-Sep-13 19:07:55

Meant to add plain leather not patent because it always seems to hurt my toes!

loubielou31 Wed 25-Sep-13 21:51:35

http://www.houseoffraser.co.uk/Ted+Baker+Sarvani+lace+bodice+dress/189959546,default,pd.html
I tried this dress on and was surprised that the shape looked so nice, the plummy one was a similar fitted shape.

I was originally thinking something like this
http://uk.monsoon.co.uk/view/product/uk_catalog/mon_1,mon_1.2/4530600206
but tried it and the shape was rubbish, The line at the waist just made it seem even wider than it is

I want a nice dress, good colour, less than £100.

I could really do with losing a stone or two, I'm a largish 14 on the bottom, a bit smaller on top with a wobbly tummy so am meant to be doing lots of sit ups between now and Christmas, I think I shall mainly be relying on shaping underwear.
My HoC stuff is all packed in a box ready to move so I can't check my shapes until we're in the new place whenever that may be but you can tell when you try things can't you.

loubie Key thing as an NR is to keep the relaxed glamour, keep the waist defined. PM me if you have urgent questions (am HOC Consultant).

wrenster Thu 26-Sep-13 07:24:05

Hello fellow summers. Having edited my wardrobe after my recent analysis and style day I am left with not much really! As a SAHM I need jumpers and warm ones at that, or ones I can wear a layer underneath. So has anyone found pretty,detailed jumpers in summer colours (I'm a classic ingenue). I have seen loads of lovely scarfs but I have nothing to pair them with. I need to do my grid to find out my exact gaps but I know just by looking at my wardrobe most things are black or gray so I need to brighten up.
Any recommendations? Thanks

SunshinePanda Thu 26-Sep-13 19:30:38
SunshinePanda Thu 26-Sep-13 20:22:14

Next?
www.next.co.uk/x52106s1#873995x52
www.next.co.uk/G4910s6#870813G49 not sure if skirt part is plum or black though.

Thinkingaboutthefuture Thu 26-Sep-13 20:46:06

I got these pumps from johnnie b- suede not leather but a good summer colour here
Am looking for longish thick cotton t shirts in suitable colours- sea green, charcoal, pinks, purples. Must be available online. Anyone seen any??

Thinkingaboutthefuture Thu 26-Sep-13 20:47:42

I just tried that next 'berry lace dress' by the way. Was disappointed in under layer which was cheap cotton, and smaller that the outer layer so it sat funny. Might be just my shape tho I'm not sure!

wrenster How about Uniqlo? Lots of colourful merino.

wrenster Fri 27-Sep-13 13:15:58

Ooh thanks travelincolour, I hadn't thought of them at all and I'm going to London next week so I could tie it in. Quite tempted by some of their heat tec layers too. Thanks

loubielou31 Sat 28-Sep-13 13:22:34

Ooh, sunshinePanda I like all those dresses!

SunshinePanda Sat 28-Sep-13 14:26:48

LoubieLou glad you like the dresses! Do you have any favourites?
I have splashed out on a bag, which IRL is even nicer than I thought. Never had such a beautiful bag!
www.modalu.com/shop/sale/pippa-grab-duck-bag.html

LonelyGoatherd Sat 28-Sep-13 16:28:59

Lovely bag sunshine. I'm sticking to my pleather one until I no longer find my bag full of nappy accroutements and bits of toddler food.
This is my new dress of joy complete with "conversational flamingoes" [hmmm].

Can't remember who linked upthread, but about to try on the M&S patent ballet flats as an exhaustive and exhausting search of my local city revealed there are no courts that fit me.

SunshinePanda Sun 29-Sep-13 14:58:31

Love your conversational flamingos Lonelygoatherd! grin That style looks like a very good fit.
I have had many years of pleather, which is probably why I am so enthralled by my new bag. Oushka also had some good summer colour small leather bags at very good prices, particularly one recommended by Issimma near the start of this thread.
Appalled by dire knitwear in shops so will be interested to have a uniqlo update on colours and styles.

Having a lovely inspiring and colourful time at conference. Will make note of uniqlo jumper colours when back on laptop.

OK. Uniqlo Merino feedback.

I think the best colours for Summers are:
1, 62, 65, 69

The following may also work:
2, 3, 10, 54, 64

Obviously, I've only seen on a screen, check against your swatch wallet, usual disclaimers etc.

Thinkingaboutthefuture Mon 30-Sep-13 21:00:28

Just out of interest travel why not 12 (pink) or 75 (purple)?. Do these jumpers wash well does anyone know? I bought lovely purple cotton jumper from m&s indigo collection the other day. Out of stock online, and nicer IRL here

Both of those look like Winter colours to me - very clear and bright. They'd be OK on some Summers, but I think more likely to be overwhelming, unless you ** raspberry.

wrenster Mon 30-Sep-13 21:36:03

Thanks v much for listing those, much appreciated. I will get ordering! Hope your conference went well and thanks for taking the time to do it. Are you allowed to say which area you cover ?

Thinkingaboutthefuture Mon 30-Sep-13 21:50:07

Ah, thanks for explaining. I love that pink, but I do have ** for raspberry. I would also go for 54 green. I feel an order coming on smile

It's on my profile; I'm down in Chichester.
(and hence not even slightly anonymous smile)

Conference was inspiring and brilliant. So funny watching other hotel guests all whispering "who are they?". A room full of women all in colour and bright lipstick is an unusual sight!

Thinkingaboutthefuture Tue 01-Oct-13 09:33:57

What is the collective noun for a group of colour consultants travel? grin

LonelyGoatherd Tue 01-Oct-13 10:01:28

A rainbow?
A prism?
grin

Ooo, I like a prism.
Or maybe it should be a year, seeing as we are all the seasons.

BloooCowWonders Wed 02-Oct-13 13:51:55

I've just bought the best ever top for me as a deep summer!

www.debenhams.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/prod_10701_10001_054010121555_-1

Plum and Amethyst are among my best colours, and the 'dark blue grey' (no. 10) is in there too!

Happy summer grin

SunshinePanda Thu 03-Oct-13 21:44:14

And reduced as well Blooocow, no wonder you're one happy Summer smile.
Particularly like Uniqlo 65 but just wish they did a boat neck jumper.
What would be the collective noun for all the Summers on this thread?

LonelyGoatherd Fri 04-Oct-13 19:37:21

Collective noun? not sure - I don't really like the vase of sweetpeas or watercolour that I'm supposed to be. A blur?

I have Uniqlo 65 in my mitts - the quality is fab (esp for the price), and the fit is great. The arms are long enough - and I have stooopid gibbon arms, and the body is too (am tall and struggle with things always being too short). I'd say the colour matches swatch 11 though - it's not as grey as the pic (sadly as this is one of my best colours), but it tones with the other summer colours and imo is right. I'll be ordering the other summer colours on payday grin.

LonelyGoatherd Fri 04-Oct-13 19:38:19

oh sunshine, meant to say I am issima (name change)...

SunshinePanda Fri 04-Oct-13 20:02:28

Lonelygoatherd I wondered where you had got to! So pleased to know it's you. smile
I think 65 looks the best - good to know about the quality. Would really like to try on for the fit though, perhaps try to get to a store. Have bought merino cardigan in store last year ( v nice longline, and because it is Merino, not at all bulky which I like) but not ordered from Uniqlo before.
A blur of Summers sounds just about perfect! grin

I've bought a couple of v neck jumpers today that were recommended on another thread. Bargain at £7.99 each, high cotton content and don't bobble apparently. I've bought the burgundy (close match to number 31 in swatch book) and also navy (good match to number 11) and a dark green (very close to 19). The last two don't appear to be available online.

H&M

Thinkingaboutthefuture Mon 07-Oct-13 20:00:21

Ah, about my budget just now! What about the blue do you think? Looks summer enough online smile

SunshinePanda Mon 07-Oct-13 20:36:15

Those jumpers look really good value for cotton. I think the blue looks like a Summer blue and could go well with jeans. I would always go for the burgundy option though unless I am very firm with myself as I love that colour so much!
Can we talk lipstick please? I have just got No7 classic rose in their free gift bag at the weekend. It's the fifth one on the colour samples on the link.
www.boots.com/en/No7-Stay-Perfect-Lipstick_1273595/
Have tried it but it seems too bold. I always wear lipgloss never lipstick but was ready for a change, or so I thought. Is the shade not right, I thought it was, or is it just me?!

LonelyGoatherd Mon 07-Oct-13 21:04:33

I love rimmel moisture renew - vintage pink (or vintage rose, can't remember) and Latino are summer colours (I hope).

I think it's impossible to see lipstick colours on the screen, but if it is soft / muted / tones with your swatch book then it will be right.

You will be unsurprised to hear that I only wear the HoC lipsticks. Wearing 50 today - soft burgundy rose. Might be a good one for you to try MrsAW if you are a fan of burgundy. It's quite purplish burgundy, and can be worn as a wash mixed with lipbalm if you don't want a really intense colour.

SunshinePanda Tue 08-Oct-13 20:59:52

Will try lipstick with lip balm to soften the effect. I think it is me with lipstick issues not the shade being wrong. My lips are full and a good feature but they make the colour seem too much for some reason. I do have a burgundy gloss which looks like a deeper natural shade on me than my rose gloss. I'll explore your suggestions.
Travel were you always a lipstick girl or did it happen after having your colours done?

I was pretty much always a lipstick girl Rimmel black cherries, anyone? I went through a red lipstick phase at University too.

I have a small scar on my lower lip (actually, you can see it in the top photo on my profile, where I'm not wearing lipstick!) and so it was an obvious thing to do to cover it up.

I hate eating wearing it, the fact it goes everywhere, that you can't kiss anyone without branding them. BUT BUT BUT. It makes such a difference to your look, it is totally worth the hassle in my view.

I dislike lip gloss, hate the texture, and hate any kind of sparkle. I use a nude lipliner and blot and reapply, that gives a matte finish that stays on.

SunshinePanda Tue 08-Oct-13 22:07:06

I love lip glosses and have them everywhere - bags, car etc. grin
I have a bump on the top of my lip and notice it more with lipstick and definitely with lip liner. Interesting to discuss reasons for our choices Travel. But I will give it a go. Also wonder about chubby sticks/ lip crayons as a half way measure. Does anyone use them?

LonelyGoatherd Sun 03-Nov-13 13:41:31

just a quick bump - any lovely links to share?

ShotgunNotDoingThePans Sun 03-Nov-13 14:21:15

Just lost my post while I went off to find more links sad.

But I've acquired a red dress from Fatface, an old rose linen tee and beige cord skinnies from Quba Sails, a charcoal coat from Mango, dark green knitted dress from Oasis, scoop-necked tees from H&M ... Think that had better be it for a while!

I do keep seeing summer colours everywhere at the moment though < puts on blinkers >.

Twit Tue 12-Nov-13 22:28:16

Hello, I have managed to find the summer thread, smile
after some extensive research I am, I suspect, a soft summer deep. For a few weeks I have tried wearing the things I already had, that best matched the colours on the kettlwell summer palette page and I feel at home in them already.
I thought at first I wouldn't have anything as I assumed I'd be more of an autumn, but surprisingly it seems that I have been instinctively buying and making things that are right every so often, and have a couple of outfits that are completely right, and a couple of extra tops to wear with my not quite right but ok for now skinny jeans. But strangely I'm happier rotating a tiny wardrobe in these colours than having more clothes in other colours hat aren't quite right.
Right am off to read the thread properly for some ideas. grin

We seem to be the least represented season on MN!
Hi Twit

ShotgunNotDoingThePans Wed 13-Nov-13 18:39:13

Don't know how I missed this thread originally. I'm a sweet pea summer (though I always think you need tons of clothes to properly manifest that; I tend to only wear two or three), Classic Ingénue in style.
Travel, can I be cheeky and ask what you think of these? I'm pretty sure they fit with the ingénue thing, but I think they might be a bit frumpy. Maybe I just grabbed them because it's so difficult to find non-black footwear in winter, and also because boots are always going to be difficult for my type.

I know I feel much more confident in my Ash Spirals, but weirdly, they give me backache hmm.

I was reading the thread earlier about your search for a navy leather skirt, which sounds lovely - did you find one?

ShotgunNotDoingThePans Wed 13-Nov-13 18:40:08

* I wear two or three colours that is!

Dollydowser Wed 13-Nov-13 20:20:09

I think I am a summer. since I ditched the black I buy mainly blues, raspberry, purple/mauve. I have blondish hair and green eyes. How do I work out which type of summer I am as there seems to be so many sorts mentioned on here?

Not cheeky at all shotgun. I think they are a good style for CI, but the colour is quite brown. The boots I have are a mid-grey, as like you, I've found navy really difficult to find. My knee boots are brown, but I am a brown summer!

I'm sure I saw some plum coloured shoe boots in M&S which might work?

Dolly When you get analysed by HoC, you don't just get a season. The consultant goes through the 36 drapes in your season and you find out which ones are the absolute best to wear right under your chin and in the biggest quantities. This is called ratings.

Summers who are best in jade / sea green / mushroom / rose brown (like me) are Brown Summers. The sweet pea summers are best in the gorgeous lilacs / duck egg etc. It doesn't really matter - every summer can wear all the colours in the summer palette.

ShotgunNotDoingThePans Wed 13-Nov-13 22:16:27

Thanks Travel. I do have a brown in my palette - think it's a 100%-er, which I thought meant I could pretty much wear how I liked. Or do you mean this brown isn't quite right?

It's not perfect, but I think, especially as footwear, it will be totally fine! It's certainly better than a tan or chestnut type brown.

ShotgunNotDoingThePans Thu 14-Nov-13 07:27:29

Thanks again - btw, Next have navy suede boots, both that calf height sort-of biker style, and knee highs.
I bought the shorter ones; a bit butch, but needs must living in the country!

Twit Fri 15-Nov-13 20:36:53

How do you feel about this jumper In the blue colour. I quite like la redoute, they seem to have lots of colours and styles, although some of the styles I like don't flatter me and the styles that do are in the wrong colour etc.
I have a pin board but can't figure out how to link it without giving myself away <dim>. The jumper looks a lot like the blues on it though, and I think suits me.

Not sure, could be Autumn. Worth a try if they do good returns.

Twit Sun 17-Nov-13 04:40:25

It's the same colour in real life as deep kingfisher on the kettlewell site, yay, and I got a dark grey top as well.
It seems t be coming together grin I use them quite a lot as they have free returns/exchange so useful with kids etc.
I would like to try a colour that isn't blue or grey, I have a bit of purple but now I need to replace autumnal orange with deep summer.... something. I like being different with colours IYSWIM?

nooka Sun 17-Nov-13 05:21:35

Another summer checking in. I'm a deep summer (my favourite colours are chocolate and purples). I was analysed about six years ago and was very surprised, always assumed I'd be winter as I've very dark hair and very pale skin. I can't wear any of the pale colours in the palette though (or only in small doses) except for tan/beige.

Style wise I'm natural/dramatic (and tall and thin) so I have to steer away from anything too soft or pretty. I'm another shopping hater, but when I get it right I can look pretty fabulous smile I had a half day style/colour session with a friend and found the combo really helpful. Plus going with a friend really worked as I could see why the colours the consultant tried on my friend worked/didn't work.

Twit Sun 17-Nov-13 06:31:36

I thought maybe winter as I too am pale with dark hair, but decided that as I have freckles and reddish hair (in the summer) I had to be more autumn. Then I started a thread asking for help and did some proper investigation wink and have come to the realisation that I am deep summer. Is it strange to say I feel like a weight has been lifted and that I feel more, I dunno, like me? I might not have many outfits (3 full ones) in my colours but I don't mind it too much as those outfits can be pretty much mixed up and I know they suits me.

SunshinePanda Sun 17-Nov-13 17:06:40

Shotgun I like your new coat and the shorter boots but just wish they were longer - think the actual longer ones in the directory are maybe a bit too 'panto' for me! If I see both IRL will have a try on.
With regards my missions: Still no navy ballet pumps. Have braved going out in lipstick, instead of gloss, 3 times so far!! Still not sure but it's getting easier...grin
Purchase wise 2 jumpers from TKMaxx but can't link. One is lovely, cosy grey Clements and Rabeiro cashmere with pink neck and sleeve trim.

Sunshine I have just bought that grey with pink trim jumper! Love it.

SunshinePanda Sun 17-Nov-13 20:39:41

Travel grin I've been wearing mine today. The other one is a Benetton plum coloured slash neck jumper.

totallylost Tue 19-Nov-13 13:25:33

Hello, I am a newly analysed summer. Next step to sort the wardrobe.

Hi totally. Give us a shout if you are not sure about anything!

totallylost Tue 19-Nov-13 15:08:45

Ha TravelinColour I am sure there will be lots of things I am not sure on! Off to the wardrobe now. I am going to start by putting all my 'right' colours in one wardrobe and everything else somewhere else.

Is it this grey jumper ladies? tkmaxx

That's the one!

totallylost Tue 19-Nov-13 16:40:00

Okay went to throw out half my wardrobe and actually there wasn't a lot that was the wrong colour. Majority of tops are shades of blue, grey, pink and burgundy.

Sat confused for a while but I think the problem is I am not wearing enough colours.

For example for work I would probably wear navy trousers, mid blue or navy cardigan with a white top underneath. Then because of the navy I would wear a navy jacket and a blue scarf.

White is not a good colour for me so guess that would affect things and maybe the rest is a bit too samey?

One of my favourite outfits is some plum skinny cords with a blush pink tunic type blouse, burgundy/plum mohair cardigan which I was wearing with brown boots, but have the holy grail of navy suede boots so will try with those.

Does this all sound like I am on the right track or have I completely lost it.

Do have to say that the biggest thing for me from the day was getting my make up colours right. All foundations make me sallow/yellowy. Find it very difficult to find a pale foundation with a pink undertone rather than yellow. Have bought the china white foundation and look tons better. Actually look healthy for once.

Apologies for going on.

SunshinePanda Tue 19-Nov-13 17:02:03

Hi Totally. smile It does sound like you are on track. I have always loved my colours and used to naturally choose some of them. I was in the right colors when analyzed years ago. I think maybe some of your outfits may veer towards Winter - is the navy dark navy or muted? Again with the white it maybe too stark.
Glad that the TK Maxx jumper has been linked.

<trying not to buy the jumper> grin

totallylost Tue 19-Nov-13 17:26:53

Thanks Sunshine I do think some of my navy is too dark. I think maybe I have been going too high contrast.

Mrs The jumper is not true Summer grey, if that helps sway you. smile

I agree with panda about possibly the navy and white you are wearing being Winter. The brown boots will probably be fine for now, though where are the navy ones from? I am on a navy boot mission!

Changing the top to lilac and the scarf to smoked grape would look a lot more interesting. And there are other summer colours other than blues and purples - sea green, duck egg and cherry are all gorgeous.

Did your consultant tell you about Kettlewell?

totallylost Tue 19-Nov-13 18:17:44

Yes I have the kettlewell book.

Boots were last season - navy suede not quite knee high - from Faith but can't see any this year.

Love the idea of lilac instead of white. White is definitely out for me unless its a greyish white - fine for all my old over washed tops grin

totallylost Tue 19-Nov-13 18:20:35

Also I have some navy wedges from Dune which were looking a bit faded so dyed them and they look great so might try to dye some brown boots. The browns in the summer colours really didn't suit me. Am a dark summer.

Twit Tue 19-Nov-13 18:42:10

Hi all smile la redoute have some blue suede looking boots, I'm not sure if they are leather mind, or the right blue but worth a look? There are also some blue ballet flats, again not leather though...
here
And here
The shoes
Maybe they will be of use to someone? I'm not very good at this whole clothes thing.
Are there any cheaper lipcolours out there? I've seen the HoC and mac recommendations, but would like to see before I buy, and I live in a small town so not much choice, just a small boots.

ShotgunNotDoingThePans Tue 19-Nov-13 19:36:24

Those on the hunt for navy boots, Kurt Geiger have these reduced booties, was gutted when I saw them after I'd just bought my dull Next ones.

Travel as you've reminded me about the wrist warmers I've been contemplating buying for ages I'll probably go for them instead of the jumper grin

SunshinePanda Tue 19-Nov-13 20:29:43

MrsAR the jumper is lovely though!! Mine is a slightly slouchy one so looks really cosy. The pink trim make it really good for a summer and it looks much nicer IRL. grin grin
I'm knitting some wrist warmers, having lusted over Brora, but not their prices. Think I should have finished them by next Summer! blush blush

nooka Wed 20-Nov-13 06:20:14

Those navy suede lace up boots are lovely. I could probably actually wear them (don't do heel and have very high arches so boots that I both like and fit are few and far between).

That jumper wouldn't work for me at all though, I don't suit any of the summer pastels. I'm also not good with high contrast, although I think that's a style issue rather than a colour one. I like wearing complimentary tones (purple and blue, pink and purple etc).

SunshinePanda Thu 21-Nov-13 19:51:16

Thanks for the shoe link Twit. The style is right but need leather as I need to wear to walk to work etc. I found a pair in Office but needed a 5.5 and they don't do half sizes. sad Not sure why they are so hard to find. Next have some but with gold hardware. Good to see links for boots though...

LonelyGoatherd Fri 22-Nov-13 09:08:43

Oooh good to see there's life in this thread grin.

I have a colour question... Most of my wardrobe seems to be navy, ivory and grey - feeling a bit dull. But if I add raspberry (for example), isn't this too much contrast?

Looking for v-neck cardis in merino or cashmere if you spot any (raspberry, rose madder, sky blue, sea green, pastel aqua or lilac)!

And the holy grail of a duck egg or dark blue grey coat.

I don't know where the 'summers / autumns aren't high contrast' thing comes from. For sure, the winter and spring colours are brighter, and on some clothing personalities too much clash will not look quite right, but my feeling is that if the colours are all in your palette, they will look good together. There is more information in the workbook on the best colour combinations.

Personally, I often wear smoked grape plus cherry, cherry plus navy and jade, dark blue grey and lighter colours.

totallylost Fri 22-Nov-13 11:00:46

Day 3 post HOC diagnosis and I am sooooo glad I had my colours done. Have found I have a lot of summer colours in my wardrobe already but have been experimenting with wear more of them rather than one of my colours teamed with stuff that are definitely not my colours.

The biggest change for me has been the make up. I have very pale skin with a pink tinge but all foundations seem to make me look yellowy. With the right colour make up I suddenly look healthy!! I can actually catch sight of myself in the mirror without grimacing now.

Now I am thinking about the style day - seems silly buying lots of new colours in my best colours if I don't know what style suits me.

LonelyGoatherd Fri 22-Nov-13 12:16:56

totally I'd def recommend the style day - and also not buying new clothes until it's done (esp if you've already got lots of Summer ones). I diagnosed myself spectacularly wrongly - and since travelin assessed me correctly, I feel far more confident about what to buy - and as importantly, what to steer clear of!

travel My colours workbook says "no contrasts when putting colours together ... blend colours ... watercolour". Much happier if can just use any in the palette! (NB travel was NOT my colours consultant grin - aware this post could be confusing!).

ShotgunNotDoingThePans Fri 22-Nov-13 17:20:31

I agree with just wearing the colours in the palette regardless; for one thing, I don't own enough clothes to stick rigidly to any decreed combinations.

I did do a hugely slightly mad thing which helped make me a bit more adventurous, though; I photocoped the swatches several times, then cut-and-pasted them in all the different combinations listed in the workbook.
Took ages, but I'm a visual person thick, so it helped to see the suggested colour schemes rather than read them as a list, iyswim.

I'm sure someone handy with a scanner and Photoshop could make a far better job of it, but it works for me!

SunshinePanda Fri 22-Nov-13 18:49:35

When I had my colours done I also had a style day afterwards. Mine was CMB though and focused more on body shape and proportions. Although it was useful it was long ago and didn't give a definitive type. Would I be able to have a style day with HoC if my colours were done by CMB? hmm

nooka Sat 23-Nov-13 06:29:59

That's a great idea shotgun! I think my no high contrast is because of my style not the colour palette. So I wouldn't wear ivory and navy together (eg I have navy suits but ideally would wear a darker purple or blue shirt with them rather than ivory because I like that look) . If that combo looks great on you then I bet you could liven it up with a bit of raspberry or one of the brighter blues and you'd look fantastic. My stylist was all for wearing more detail (she marked me and my friend on how many colours/features we were wearing, including jewellery etc)

SunshinePanda Sat 23-Nov-13 07:25:18

Nooka what is your style?

sunshine Can't speak for other consultants, but I know I'd be happy to do style for someone who knew their CMB season. Or even for someone who hasn't done colour at all. The style day has lots of really useful info, even if you don't know your colours.

SunshinePanda Sat 23-Nov-13 08:20:51

Thanks Travel. I wish you weren't so far away from me. I've checked!sad

nooka Sat 23-Nov-13 16:22:54

Natural/dramatic. I can't remember which one was the compliment not contrast though. The friend I went with came out classic (Audrey Hepburn type look). We did proportions and shape too with a questionnaire for the style side. Can't remember where I put my books now. Soem of it is really validation - i think you know when you've got it right.

SunshinePanda Sat 23-Nov-13 16:54:27

Nooka think you may be right about validation. I know about my proportions etc. I have to remind myself when I lament my leg length that is why I have a long flat torso and dress to disguise one and show off the other (not with a crop top though shock). I'm good at shapes. Its just the detail... I think sometimes I can end up a bit classic especially for work and then I feel frumpy. Sometimes need to be practical but usually don't like the practical choice. confused

nooka Sat 23-Nov-13 18:14:45

I found it mostly useful knowing what not to wear, which for me is anything frilly or soft, round collars etc. Plus feeling OK about the slightly OTT style choices that I'm naturally drawn to but previously would have been too scared to wear.

RobotLover68 Mon 25-Nov-13 17:00:21

HoC Summer here! My HoC consultant said us Summers are very rare - so I'm bumping this thread for us - I want a leather fitted jacket (short) in something like dark purple - anyone seen anything like that?

SunshinePanda Mon 25-Nov-13 18:09:05

Hi Robot welcome to the thread. smile Didn't know we are rare - maybe that is why we struggle at times to keep this thread going. Are you newly diagnosed?
Sorry can't help you with the jacket but will be interested to see any links. Love berry, grape and plum shades. I'm wearing cherry and plum at the moment! I like diagonal zips or buttons on fitted jackets. Are there any details you either want or want to avoid?

RobotLover68 Tue 26-Nov-13 11:33:53

Hi Sunshine, thanks for your reply - no I'm not a newbie I'm about 6 years on and I still love it - everything I buy is in my colours - My favourite colour is Purple but I love Teal and Raspberry Red too - Not worried about avoiding any details on the jacket other than gold zips, if anyone has seen anything I'd consider anything. This is my handbag of the moment, I got it in New York and I'm always getting complimented on it - unfortunately the picture doesn't do the colour of the bag justice

http://www.lyst.com/bags/michael-by-michael-kors-medium-travel-tote-bag-pomegranate/

ShotgunNotDoingThePans Tue 26-Nov-13 17:49:11

Link for Robot's bag.
It's lovely. I bought a similar one in NY last summer, dithered between the dark brown and bright pink, plumped for brown as DH said it was 'more classic,' but have regretted it since. Hasn't ruined my life or anything, but yswim!

SunshinePanda Tue 26-Nov-13 21:11:49

Lovely bag! smile

LonelyGoatherd Wed 27-Nov-13 16:38:06

Oh I love that bag!

magso Sat 30-Nov-13 15:00:18

Robotlover, Baukjen have a short wine coloured leather biker jacket, probably not the correct purple for you , but a decent discount today (36% I think )only. Zips look gold or bronze cannot really tell from the catalogue.

SunshinePanda Tue 10-Dec-13 20:15:16
MidnightHag Sat 14-Dec-13 08:44:45

I really like them. Bit high for me tho blush

Twit Sat 14-Dec-13 10:36:28

Hope everyone is well. smile
I lost this thread for a bit and had to search for you all shock. I bought a floaty blouse type top in a grey blue/ green, a lot like the sea spray colour on the summer page in kettlewell (sorry to keep referring to it, but it seems the best way of showing you what I mean) and as a layer it is great, slowly getting there.
I have browsed the extensive range of make up at my local boots, hmm and have bought the Rimmel vintage pink. It's a lot more dense in colour than I normally use, but is good - wish I'd found it sooner! I bought some make up from lily lolo and got a free lipstick from them, which is a good nude for me, although I think I prefer a little more colour to it ideally, it is the love affair colour.
Lastly I found a cheap pot of lip balm/gloss in my local chemist, called tin 'o' tint cherry made by miners? Not actual miners I imagine though grin
I have a body shop navy eye pencil I got free with a black one off a magazine and have been trying that out.
The contrast thing, I like using colours in an unexpected way, for example my purple and grey stripes top under my new greybluegreen blouse, but because everything is muted, deep and greyish in tone, it's not a huge contrast really I suppose. Done well it's great. I think perhaps start small a flash of contrast here and there and go from there?

SunshinePanda Sat 14-Dec-13 11:42:12

Midnight, I find that high heels with straps are easier to wear. Wore the shoes last night.
Twit, sounds like you are doing well with the make up. I don't fond navy eyeliner the best for me. I prefer either using plum eye shadow as a liner or No 7 blue/grey shade (even though it has rubbish reviews). Can you do a link for your blouse?
I have been working hard at weaning myself off black opaque tights and can see the difference it makes.

Twit Sat 14-Dec-13 11:52:49

Oh the blue grey one sounds good, I might try that - what colour mascara do you use? Black seems to work on me as I have black eyelashes and eyebrows, and I don't use it very thickly, so it looks like my own eyelashes. Maybe a soft black?
Sorry I can't link the top as it is a charity shop find.

SunshinePanda Sat 14-Dec-13 12:05:54

I found a berry coloured wool hat by Toast for a fiver last week, looks unworn. Waiting for snow... [ (no Santa smiley on my tablet sad).
Mascara wise I use brown/black looks like black on but better if that makes sense. Black makes me look even more tired. Would like to try a plum one. Tried blue but not keen - feels a bit 1980s!

IlonaRN Sun 15-Dec-13 15:10:07

Hello!
I've decided I will be getting my colours done in the New Year, but firmly suspect I'll be "diagnosed" as Summer of some sort (dark blue eyes, medium ash-blonde hair, pale skin, cannot wear salmon or mustardy colours). I just need to find a consultant in my area.

Would any of these colours be considered Summer-wearable?
Purple knit dress
Navy knit dress
Dark red knit dress
Teal short-sleeved knit dress (or the grey one? though bf doesn't like me in grey)

Thanks in advance!

SunshinePanda Tue 17-Dec-13 18:40:57

Hi Ilona welcome to the thread. Good to have someone new onboard. Can't seem to get your links to work. Not so sure about the teal sounds more like an Autumn colour - muted but yellow based rather than blue.

SunshinePanda Sat 28-Dec-13 11:56:35

Calling all Summers... anyone found any good sale items? ! smile

LonelyGoatherd Tue 31-Dec-13 19:26:13

Afraid not! Looking for merino and/or cashmere jumpers though...

totallylost Tue 31-Dec-13 19:59:20

me too Lonely

NotTwit Wed 22-Jan-14 17:00:25

Hi everyone, just dropping by quickly to say next have got navy ankle boots that might be ok, there are actually a few shoes I was looking at.
Hope all my fellow summers had a good Christmas and new year. smile
Am hoping to start looking around online and in charity shops and possibly even fabric for some summer clothes as in time of year as well as colours. Arf, have confused myself a bit there.
Any thoughts? grin

CockBollocks Sat 08-Feb-14 17:03:42

Have just been told I am a HOC summer so I'm marking my place!!!

MidnightHag Sun 09-Feb-14 09:05:55

I would like to buy my friend a handbag. She's a dark summer and a natural gamine. I was thinking of something in slate grey, navy or burgundy. I'm not very good on what's in fashion and she is rather stylish. I can spend £50 to £100.
Has anyone got some recommendations?

Chewbecca Fri 14-Feb-14 18:59:59

Good evening all - I have had my colours analysed today and have learned I am a Deep Summer so would love to join you if there's room!

I went with little idea of which season I would be, it was a very interesting experience and I was surprised how clearly I could which colours were 'right' with the methodical system. Interestingly though, both the top & scarf I was wearing were mostly summer colours so I obviously had some inner inkling.

Now need to review my wardrobe and am quite keen to get shopping as I have resisted so far this year knowing I had this appointment coming up.

I think learning to shop with a swatch may be tricky. I mostly shop online (John Lewis) & return half of my purchases.

Looking forward to seeing links that are working for other Summers to inspire me!

SunshinePanda Sat 15-Feb-14 06:49:28

Great to see new Summers joining us. I think that the shops will soon have more in for us (hopefully).
TK Maxx is always good for bags. How about this Modalu one? www.tkmaxx.com/view-all-accessories/lavender-grab-bag/invt/11767881?VBMTC=e3f98efeb52d452561f1257ce86cbe75

Notgoingtotakeitanymore Sat 15-Feb-14 11:06:33

Delurking to join the thread. Dark summer here - I think that's the same as deep?

NanoNinja Sat 15-Feb-14 18:59:32

And I'm de lurking too. Another deep summer!

totallylost Sat 15-Feb-14 19:18:34

and another deep summer. Looking for some ideas for spring clothes (if we ever get a spring).

totallylost Sat 15-Feb-14 19:19:47

My best colours are all quite dark colours, fine for winter, but struggling to think what I will do in warmer weather.

Hebburnisaplaceonearth Sat 15-Feb-14 20:05:06

You can wear all the summer colours though, not just your best ones smile

CockBollocks Sat 15-Feb-14 21:11:20

Love that bag!!

Chewbecca Sat 15-Feb-14 21:19:41

I'm really keen to shop at the moment!
Have my eye on this dress, think it is ok?
white stuff
I've always enjoyed blue clothes but struggled with shoes/legs. Any thoughts?

Chewbecca Sat 15-Feb-14 21:22:04

this bag inspired by above link is on its way blush

SunshinePanda Sat 15-Feb-14 23:26:57

Chewbecca I have a Modalu Pippa bag, dusk, and love it. Glad the link was of use to you! grin

Notgoingtotakeitanymore Mon 17-Feb-14 06:19:20

Yes know what you mean re shoes with blue. Summer easier as could wear sandals in colours. Purple? Burgundy? Grey? I am now just naming random colours ....

Decameron Mon 17-Feb-14 08:02:48

Hi, Travelincolour and Issimma told me about this thread (waves to them).

I finally had my colours done last month and am a brown summer (am ignoring the brown bit for now!). I guessed I was a summer so had a lot of pinks and blues (but quite a lot of black too hmm) and have been ebaying mistakes and buying scarves, navy snakesin shoes (Russell and Bromley bargain, those words don't often go together) and a navy bag.

Shoes (this is where I have a lot of black), I was thinking of silver because I also wear a lot of blue. Hadn't thought of burgundy, Notgoingtotakeitanymore.

OK, will read back now.

Chewbecca Mon 17-Feb-14 09:12:11

decameron actually that's something that could be really useful, I don't think navy (or other coloured) shoes are very popular so sale bargains could be more forthcoming than when I was stuck on black.
I had forgotten about R&B too, I don't have one close to work or home. Just been on their website now and they have a 'colour group' filter which is handy. I'll keep an eye out for their sales.
I have a pair of light grey wedges on their way (tk maxx) plus a pair of navy Mary Janes (John lewis). Will see how I feel about them when they arrive. Also have my eye on 2 navy pairs in Clarks but I'm waiting for a discount code for them.
Oh dear, it sounds like i've been ordering an awful lot. However, I haven't been shopping for months as I've been planning a HoC day and I usually send 2/3 of my online purchases back.

Chewbecca Mon 17-Feb-14 09:13:20

I was told by my comsultant im fact that black shoes are actually ok as they're not next to your face, however, they likely won't blend so well with the rest of your clothes. Which makes sense.

Decameron Mon 17-Feb-14 09:45:17

I'm a big returner too! It's a shame R&B don't have their sale online. I really like the sound of the grey wedges, do you have a link? I'll probably still wear black shoes but more in winter.

I've read the first couple of pages, interesting about the warmth in the hair. I have brown hair with quite a bit of red in it. The consultant covered my hair but it is natural.

Chewbecca Mon 17-Feb-14 09:57:11

these grey Dune wedges are on their way.

I asked about hair colour too, I am natural too (brown) but am starting to get the odd grey so it is only a matter of time I think. Was advised the main thing was not to add yellow tones (honey/caramel). I shall worry about that when the time comes!

Chewbecca Mon 17-Feb-14 09:59:55

One interesting comment for me from the beginning of this thread was the suggestion of Clinique's blushing nude lipstick. I used it for years, including on my wedding day! I have a honey ish chubby stick now, which I was told was wrong, again, too yellow. I might go back to blushing nude, see if I still like it.

Decameron Mon 17-Feb-14 10:14:26

Ooh, I love those shoes! I destroy suede though.

There are some good summer makeup recommendations on this website: theeverydaybeauty.blogspot.co.uk/ I got Chanel Bonheur (a pinky plum) with my Boots points which I really like.

AntNebula Mon 17-Feb-14 11:25:53

Hello all, a newly diagnosed “sweet pea” summer here – had my colour day on Saturday. It was a great experience and I’m sure I’ll be widening the range of colours I wear as a result.

One thing I do find quite intimidating is the idea of switching my usual cool brown eyeliner and eyeshadow for navy. I don’t think I’ve seen anyone with blue mascara since the eighties! It does make my eyes stand out better – I can definitely see that. But I don’t want to look too “unusual”. What do other people think?

Chewbecca Mon 17-Feb-14 11:46:41

Hi Ant, I am glad this thread has resurrected, turns out there are quite a few people around looking for similar ideas.

I think the leaflet suggests brown mascara is ok, although it says 'brown summers' underneath so I suspect that's probably not you or I so we are navy only. I have never worn any mascara other than black and actually have already bought my next YSL black for when the current one runs out.

I plan to visit Boots tomorrow lunchtime (when I am in the office) and get some inexpensive mascara and an eyeliner (or two) so I can experiment. I'm going to take the book with me. Upthread a max factor 'midnight' mascara is recommended and suggests it is similar to my favourite YSL so I am planning to look out for that. Midnight doesn't sound as scary as navy smile

I don't wear an awful lot of eyeshadow and have some pinks and greys that I'll try one day. Were you specifically told to wear navy? We didn't talk too much about it, just looked at the booklet and here seem to be plenty of options on the eyeshadow front.

AntNebula Mon 17-Feb-14 12:01:18

Thanks Chewbecca, I’m glad more people are posting here too – have been lurking for a while as I had a fair idea of what my diagnosis would be and was sorry there seemed to be fewer Summers than other seasons.

I was definitely told to wear navy mascara/eyeliner – my consultant was very clear about that. In fact, if I follow her advice to the letter, I might as well empty my make-up bag completely! As you say, I guess the only thing to do is get a couple of inexpensive items and experiment. Given that the whole point of the colour day for me was to make changes, there's not much point in shying away from the changes suggested!

And then after the mascara there’s the lipstick question – eek. I’ve never worn any colour on my lips at all before save for a very gentle pink lipgloss, so I imagine I’ll feel quite self-conscious to begin with.

Chewbecca Mon 17-Feb-14 12:06:28

At the session I was put in 3 of the HoC lip thingies. Didn't like the plum at all but I was quite taken with the Crystal Pink lip gloss (73), I had to admit it worked quite well.
I'm quite tempted by people's rose Vaseline suggestion too as that seems fairly subtle.

AntNebula Mon 17-Feb-14 12:10:02

Yes, the Crystal Pink was my favourite too. I also tried one of the reds (Cherry, I think), but the consultant agreed it was far too dark for me. It was my dream as a teenager to be able to carry off a vampish red... but alas I looked terrible!

IlonaRN Mon 17-Feb-14 17:20:21

Hello again!
I had my colour day today, and I did end up diagnosed as a Summer smile I had thought I'd be Soft Summer, but in fact am Sweet Pea Summer shock

The bright colours are really scary for me - my ** ones (at 100%) are:
- Dark Blue Grey
- Sky Blue
- (Cornflower, but only for work)
- Hyacinth
- Jade
- Duck Egg
- Plum
- Cyclamen
- Rose Madder
and Amethyst and Rose were single-starred colours at 100%.

I've got a ton of makeup that's "wrong", and hardly any clothes in the bright, Sweet Pea colours that apparently "wow".

Any suggestions, particularly where to find the above colours, would be very, very gratefully received!

IlonaRN Mon 17-Feb-14 17:24:03

Just to add - I was put in the Clover lipstick (no. 35), which made my bf's mum think I looked "the best she's ever seen me".
Now I have to go through my very large collection of lipsticks to find one that's similar!

NotTwit Mon 17-Feb-14 17:35:37

Could you go with grey eyeshadow? Or mix grey with navy blue?
I use the rimmel vintage rose lipstick and tend to smudge it on with my finger for daytime, it's just right then, especially with a bit of Vaseline over the top.
(I am a deep summer for reference)

SunshinePanda Tue 18-Feb-14 08:19:46

I use brown/black mascara, which just means dark brown! It definitely makes me looks less tired than black but still looks like you're wearing black. I think this feels more current and stylish than navy, for me anyway, but I do keep meaning to try a plum mascara.

Notgoingtotakeitanymore Tue 18-Feb-14 09:48:59

Have not tried mascara yet but my eyelashes are v black anyway so not sure re brown or blue. In fact I'm not sure about any of the brown colours in the swatch thing. Can't work out how they fit in.

issimma Tue 18-Feb-14 11:56:07

I wear brown mascara and also have v black eyelashes. It looks black when on, and I feel like I'm following the rules!

Day to day, it's that, Rimmel vintage rose, HOC foundation and blusher. I'm looking for eyeshadow and eyeliner - any recommendations? I do have a sparkly mauve one from No.7, but looking for more.

Want to get grey metallics or plum or navy boots for Spring (Ash jalouse or similar) and also navy or burgundy leather converse for the park. Also have a pussybow silk blouse on my wishlist if you spot any.

NotTwit Tue 18-Feb-14 12:53:40

Have you tried lily lolo? I got a pink shimmery eyeshadow as a base colour ( never tried pink anything before) and it looks great with my body shop grey/navyish eyeliner. I haven't stepped away from the black mascara yet, I will try a soft black or one of the dark browns / midnight ones next. I have dark hair and eyelash/brows so I think it's something I can get away with for now.
I'm thinking of going with something pink this year. This will be the firestorm time I have worn pink since I was dressed by someon else as a child. Maybe a simple dress for summer? I might even try to make my own if I find the right fabric...

CockBollocks Tue 18-Feb-14 13:40:45

Back to shoe alternatives for that navy dress, grey or lighter brown brogues?

I'm a cool, light and muted - anyone else?

Also purple mascara from benefit looks gorgeous with brown eyes.

Chewbecca Tue 18-Feb-14 21:31:33

Bloomin' TK Maxx, I have been reminded why I never shop there! Shoes arrived, in a size 8 instead of a 7. Too big funnily enough. I think they are more taupe than grey so probably not such a useful shade anyway. I can't imagine anything on my legs with them except flesh coloured tights but I think my book specifically says no to that. confused.

I'm spotting plenty of navy shoes in the shops at the moment, have my eye on a couple of Clarks pairs that I'll order when a discount code does the rounds.

On the make up front I was wild and bought a violet mascara today (YSL). Tried some on in the shop and it wasn't too dramatic but that was over the top of my usual black so may have been distorted. Will see how it looks tomorrow on clean lashes. A grey pencil also slipped in to my purchase which I shall also experiment with tomorrow. My eyes are quite hazel-y although everyone always thinks they are brown, perhaps that will change.

Ooo, are we back on front page?
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Midnight if you are still looking for bags.
Gamine bags need to be structured and small scale (at least one small dimension). Natural Gamines do well with texture, and it's not as important to have serious structure. Satchel styles can work well. I'd be looking for a small navy satchel.

Notgoing with the browns, it's the same rule as with the other colours - do they tone in / work together. If so, go for it!

madmomma Wed 19-Feb-14 08:05:38

Travelin which words describe the ingenue(sp?) style please? I can't find much about it on the net.

Ingenue is also small scale, and feminine in a girlish way.
What type of Ingenue are you? Unusual to have a full clothing personality (though I am one).

NotTwit Wed 19-Feb-14 10:00:53

I find style really tricky, I am drawn towards natural, boho, hippy looks, but due to big boobs find it hard to get the look right. Slight 'rock chick' style and structured clothing,( jackets etc) suit my shape best, but I can only really do that in the spring/autumn. And it isn't really me iIyswim?

I thought I'd do some links for people:

These are my latest shoe purchase

I am taking these back because I can't justify the £££ although they are gorgeous.

I am going to go and try on these instead.

I have had a lot of use out of my navy pliage already.

And I will buy this belt when there is a 20% code.

I think this belt could work on Summers too.

issimma Wed 19-Feb-14 15:05:00

I've bought these boots to try, but think they'll be too high (to wear with skinny flares and cowl neck or wrap tops). Tempted to try the zip codes too, to wear with day dresses. Mmmm.

Notgoingtotakeitanymore Wed 19-Feb-14 16:06:08

Have also seen nice navy shoes in clarks but waiting for discount code. Tried lovely teal dress in phase 8 - also waiting for code. Called teal but looks more like sea green to me. Burgundy boots in boden sale ruined by crappy gold buckles so gone back,

issimma Wed 19-Feb-14 18:55:48

Have you got a link to the shoes and dress?

Notgoing if it's this Phase 8 dress it looks very Teal on my screen.

Chewbecca Wed 19-Feb-14 20:05:35

Blimey, the shoes and tights look shocking on that dress!

madmomma Wed 19-Feb-14 21:39:28

Thanks very much travelin

I haven't had the style day yet (too skint) but at the colour day my consultant said I was ingenue.

issimma Thu 20-Feb-14 10:11:49

Burgundy boots in the sale.

teenybash7 Thu 20-Feb-14 12:53:17

Had my colours done years ago by HoC - consultant said I was the most difficult person she'd ever done. Oh dear! Verdict was (I think) summer flowing into winter but don't know how that would translate into latest categories - any advice please?
Also wondering about mascara - should it be navy? Asking before I set off for Boots!

teeny I think navy mascara looks great on everyone except Autumns, so go for it!

The current classification would never say any seasons flowing into any others. You are either warm or cool, either muted or bright.

You might be a burnished Winter, you might be a vibrant Summer.

teenybash7 Thu 20-Feb-14 17:44:33

Thanks, Travelin - I'm pretty sure I'm cool, but don't know about burnished and vibrant (more tarnished and shattered just now!)
I had a look in my local boots and there was black, deepest black, extreme black, nearly black - and brown! Only one navy and that was No 7, so I'll wait till I've got a coupon and try that.

IlonaRN Fri 21-Feb-14 19:46:29

I'm looking at the current Clinique GWP offers, and wondered about the eyeshadow colour in the John Lewis gift set. Looks like the purple could be a Summer colour, but I'm not sure about the sand colour? How about the purply lipgloss?

There is a Debenhams one too, where the colours may be a little better, but that one has the DDML moisturiser sad

IlonaRN Fri 21-Feb-14 19:49:41

Ooh, and is this Becksondergaard scarf Summer?

Decameron Fri 21-Feb-14 20:10:23

I think that scarf is a summer colour, Ilona.

WitchOfEndor Tue 04-Mar-14 21:44:26

MUA makeup in Superdrug have a lovely eyeshadow palette of about 12 colours for about £4, lots of silver/muted blue/lilac colours for Summers (having spent the last 20 years wearing brown eye makeup I now know that's wrong for me)

I've just been diagnosed as a dark summer and struggling to find anything in the shops at the moment.

Chewbecca Wed 05-Mar-14 15:20:55

Hi Witch I am 'deep' summer, not sure if that's similar/same as 'dark' and I feel I can wear almost anything (I want to), especially lots of blues. My workwear is mostly blue and grey suits and dresses and at home I mostly wear jeans with a variety of tops in blues/pinks etc, just the same as I did before I was 'diagnosed'.

What are you looking for, work clothes, going out clothes, casual clothes?

Twit Wed 05-Mar-14 16:38:18

Hi, witch and chewbacca, I'm a deep summer too. I find I can manage dark charcoal or faded black which helps a bit. I do tend to dress it with my favourite blues though.
My favourite colours are blue, grey and purple and I'm on the look out for a deep dusty antique pink coloured something for spring/summer which is a colour I have never worn. Ever.

WitchOfEndor Sat 08-Mar-14 14:47:32

I've got enough for work (I only work 3 days a week so don't need a lot) but I'd like to get some more casual stuff. What I'm finding hard is the waterfall of colours, I might see a top I like but there isn't a scarf or cardigan which would suit it, and one of my good colours is the sea green which I can't find anywhere.

Cheeriostuckonsock Sat 08-Mar-14 20:39:40

Great thread - another brown summer here, been newly diagnosed as a 'dramatic gamine' after recent style day... Travelin -can you help please - I love my winter wardrobe of quirky but neatly fitting knits, skirts and flat boots, brogues and low heeled shoes, but what on earth do gamines wear in spring/summer please?!

NanoNinja Sun 09-Mar-14 08:06:22

Hi witch. On the sea green, esprit has some t shirts, boden has a broderie skirt (in the summer preview) and some jeans (in clearance). J crew has a pencil skirt but may be a bit deep. Sorry no links - am on phone!

Chewbecca Sun 09-Mar-14 13:38:01

Hmm, I'm not so into cardis, prefer a jacket like this.
I did find most of my existing scarves were quite summery already, like say this
Do you need a 'waterfall of colours'? What does that mean?!

ishouldcocoa Sun 09-Mar-14 14:03:32

I'm not quite sure how I've missed this thread, but "Hello" to you all. I'm a spring/ summer (doagnosed by HoC about 15 years ago), and wear what others are calling sweet pea colours - if I can.

I really struggle with some of the colours, as I'm terrified I'm going to look too old (I'm 47). I steer clear of most pinks as it brings out the redness of my cheeks, and stick to blues - ep. air force blues - and greys, duck egg blues and lilacs. Winter white is 'my' pale colour - cannot wear white unless its the end of a good summer!

I really struggle during winter to find clothes that suit my colouring.

Watching with interest...

WitchOfEndor Sun 09-Mar-14 19:23:54

Waterfall of colours (if I have this right) is wearing between 3-5 complementary colours together, so some of the darker blues/greys or some of the pinks/reds in a cascade of colour. I'm ok with a top and scarf, top and cardi combo, but struggling to add matching accessories as I tend to wear the same earrings and necklace every day.

It doesn't help that I live in darkest Shropshire with not much choice at the shops.

NanoNinja I will have a look at the Esprit site, thanks

Hi cheerios, we are very similar then, as I'm a dark brown summer, full Gamine. I've not really got a gamine figure though - i.e. I'm not very small!

I wear skinny jeans, three quarter length sleeve bretons, pumps or ankle boots, fitted blazers. Or knee length straight denim / corduroy skirts (still with tights in this weather).

I actually find Spring is the easiest time to dress, as can go for the 3/4 sleeves and shorter lengths that are great on gamines.

witch if combining lots of colours doesn't feel like you, then don't do it! I rarely wear more than 3 colours at once as I prefer a colour-blocking look.

Geminid Sun 16-Mar-14 14:47:06

Hello, hope there are still a few Summers around.

I was wondering whether anyone else found/is finding it difficult to find things in Summer colours? I’m a couple of months post-analysis now, and I’ve scoured the shops on more than one occasion and can’t really find anything at all Or perhaps I haven’t “got my eye in” yet and I am skipping past the right colours without really seeing them?

My plan is to do the style class in a couple of months, so my immediate aim is just to buy a couple of Summer-y cardigans to replace the turquoise(!) and orange(!!) ones I was wearing previously. But I’m stumped! In the end I bought this one www.fashionid.de/christian-berg-women/damen-cardigan-aus-reiner-baumwolle-8936137_10/, but now I’m wondering if it’s too bright/not right after all. Anyone got any thoughts? And am I alone in finding the process of actually finding things in the right colours a painful one?

That's a perfect summer pink, geminid

Summer colours usually come into the shops around May - it's a bit early at the moment, so it's still all yellows and corals.

French navy is usually fairly easy to find, also mushroom and plum, and soft white.

Have you heard of Kettlewell? Expensive but good quality colour coded clothes.

Geminid Sun 16-Mar-14 14:59:32

Thank you so much, TravelinColour! Reassuring to know I didn’t pick a lemon!

I’ll look forward to more Summer-y shades in the shops soon, then. I’m a bit envy at all the corals in the shops at the moment because I find them so pretty but of course absolutely not suitable for me.

I have indeed heard of Kettlewell, and bought one navy blue top from there so far which I've enjoyed wearing. I'll go and have another browse there...

Cheeriostuckonsock Sun 16-Mar-14 20:39:14

Fab, thanks Travelin, will await more summer colours appearing in the shops; I prefer the stronger colours and wear them as contrasts rather than a blended effect, but that's the dramatic part of my clothing personality, I now understand!

Also - am on the hunt for a more stylish changing bag and have my eye on the storksak Elizabeth in walnut - is this the sort of thing a brown summer dramatic gamine might be seen with, perhaps?! (Desperately trying to justify expense blush)

Depends on the walnut. I have seen colours described as walnut which vary from mushroom (good) through to really rich tan (bad).

Is it very pointy / structured?

Cheeriostuckonsock Sun 16-Mar-14 21:00:04

Sorry - v rude not to post properly... This is it storksak elizabeth (my first link too - get me wink)

I really think that could work. It has one small dimension at least (depth), and is quite structured. Colour is good smile. Not perfect, but worlds better than some slouchy plastic black one!

Cheeriostuckonsock Sun 16-Mar-14 21:48:52

Woo hoo! That's good enough to send me off for the credit card, thank you! Have had my share of black/crappy plasticky bags too mind (and other colours since summer diagnosis... Right colour, wrong bag)

Cheeriostuckonsock Sat 29-Mar-14 08:06:11

Well, the bag arrived and it's definitely a chocolate brown colour, more suited to an autumn, so the grey might have been a better choice! Still love it though smile

Can anyone help me a bit please?

I had my colours done today, loved it! And apparently I'm a summer. Now I can't work out the rest. I'm sure the lady said I'm a Dark summer anemone. But googling isn't really matching that up to any swatches/ideas etc. could it have been deep summer? I know I was cool, summer, suited muted colours. My **were French navy, sea green, plum, raspberry.

I really want to be able to look up colour palettes/makeup ideas a bit more but I'm stuck.

MidnightHag Sun 30-Mar-14 08:15:07

I'm an anemone summer, which I think is the same as a deep or dark summer. Those colours you've listed sound right. I don't understand why you haven't got a colour swatch, though. Didn't your HoC rep give you one?

Sorry that was misleading, I Got my swatch folder but I wanted a bit more inspiration from places like Pinterest palettes etc and deep summer doesn't come up. I assume because it's mostly American it shows as cool/clear/soft summers and I have no idea from that.

My colouring(because I dye my hair the wrong colour) is more SJP/Jennifer Aniston colours but apparently my blonde is all wrong and as a deep summer I need to go more with ash browns etc.

What should I be googling to get ideas on makeup and hair tones etc. I can't afford anymore hoc days at the moment.

Chewbecca Sun 30-Mar-14 20:13:26

Hi thedoc, I'm a deep summer too. I've not found much reference to it on Pinterest, this board describes itself as 'soft summer' and seems to have similar colours to me.
I've bought one new dress in quite a soft blue, a lilac bag, some navy heels and a pair of grey boots.
Make up wise I have swapped my black mascara and pencil for violet mascara and charcoal grey pencil but I don't think it looks very different. Haven't replaced my lipstick yet, I'd like to find a good quality lipstick in a proper summer colour but haven't quite got my head round it.
I think we summers are either rarer than other seasons or just less prolific posters as this is definitely the slowest traffic of the seasons within MN S&B. My mum's a winter & I look there for inspiration what to buy her and there is a lot of inspiration. Still, it is therefore cheaper to be a summer!

Thankyou so much for replying because I really want this to work for me and Im floundering a bit. Ive got a few bits in my wardrobe already but I needed to replace loads anyway so I'm starting from scratch really.

Makeup wise I bought the plum lipstick recommended and noticed today that it actually matches the lipstick that was used my the makeup lady on me for my wedding day. That was a bit of a boost as I thought I must be on the right track.

My problem at the moment is that the plum lipstick with navy makeup and I feel a bit 1980's.

That soft summer board is ideal, thank you. Although primrose was worse than crap in me grin