Bra intervention - have I got this right?

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Wenchelda Mon 06-May-13 14:02:29

Hi - I'm new, hope its ok to come straight on with a question....I Somehow stumbled across one of the bra intervention threads a couple of weeks ago and have been following them in amazement ever since.

I've always worn an A cup (32/34 pre pregnancy, currently 36A) - never been measured professionally but always done it myself based on the "add 4 or 5 inches" rule. I have pretty much constant back ache and neck pain but never ever imagined this could be caused by boobs as they really are so tiny!

But after reading your fascinating threads, I think I should be a 30/32D! My measurements are 31 under bust, 35 at fullest point when bending over to 90 degrees, and 34 above. Have I got that right? If so I am truly truly in shock that my almost-not-there boobs are a D!!


WIth your measurements I would suggest trying a 30D, 30DD, 32D and 32C to start with. You're more likely a 30 though - most people who measure an odd number get on better with the next number down unless they are very slender.

Wenchelda Mon 06-May-13 14:48:21

DD!!! I find it impossible to think i could be a D cup, never mind a DD faints in shock I don't actually fill the A cup i am currently wearing, so i would never have thought i needed a bigger cup. However i now realise this is probably because my band size is far too big ... i can easily pull it 6+ inches away from my body and can feel everything escaping underneath.

For the first time ever i am actually keen to go bra shopping!

That's exactly it - the 36A is designed for someone who measures (roughly) 37" around their chest. So it's too big for you there. If you have been wearing a 34A previously it is essentially for someone who measures 35" around (like you ) - but 34" below. Which is how the old +4 routine gets you in such a wrong size.

It's really common - I think in all the bra threads we have had over the last few months there has been one lady who was a "true" A-cup. Most who thought they were A's are actually C/D/DD/E

Featherbag Sat 18-May-13 23:32:16

Sorry to hijack but can't find another bra intervention discussion thread! I followed the guidelines today as I'm pregnant with expanding and very sore boobs, I was recently measured as a 40C in Mothercare but never felt comfortable in that size, plus really didn't understand how I could be a 40 back at a size 14! So I measured myself and went shopping armed with the new measurements. Turns out I'm actually a 34E! My boobs have never felt or looked so good!
I've had to get underwired as none of the shops I went to had non-underwired in anything over DD, but I understand from previous threads that's ok too?

SorrelForbes Sun 19-May-13 00:03:11

Welcome! Underwired is fine as long as the bra fits properly.

I bet you feel much more comfortable and supported in your new size? I t

SorrelForbes Sun 19-May-13 00:03:59

Oops! Stupid phone.

I took someone from a 38A to a 32FF the other evening grin

Featherbag Sun 19-May-13 11:42:01

I feel so much better, even though I bought cheapie 2 for a tenner bras, figured I'll need more in a month or 2 and money's tight.

Featherbag Sun 19-May-13 11:44:49

In fact, early pregnancy paranoia (I'm 11/40) has me poking my boobs every now and then to make sure I still have the normal pregnancy soreness as they were hurting constantly before and now not at all!

TheCatcherInTheRye Sun 19-May-13 12:04:35

Looking to benefit here from your wisdome. OP your thread has had me measuring for the first time and am likewise a little shocked.

Bragurus, I'm measuring a band size of 32, that's fine, I was buying 34 so not so shocking. I'm measuring 38 inches, loose, how snug should my second measurement be?????

SorrelForbes Sun 19-May-13 12:28:39

Keep the tape measure loose for the second measurement. It's often better to take it whilst les ing over at 90 degrees to the floor.

Oldraver Sun 19-May-13 12:58:12

How do you figure your cup size (I realise its the difference between the two measurements but what inches equals cup size ? I've seen a few bra threads but have never found this vital bit of info

TheCatcherInTheRye Sun 19-May-13 13:48:55

Thanks Sorrell, I measured in the 90 angle pose. 38 loose. To compare though I then measured while sitting up and was only 37 so not much different. Liek Old raver said, how then do I choose the cup size? I've seen "add an inch for every size up from A" and "subtract band from bust to get cup".

GibberTheMonkey Sun 19-May-13 13:53:46

Sorry to crash
I am currently wearing a size that is one of my suggested size and it fits.
I just ordered a couple online in that size online and they're a bit small,I get slight spillage. Am I right in thinking I should order the next cup size up?

SorrelForbes Sun 19-May-13 15:46:39

Gibber. Yep, sticks with the same band size but go up a cup (or more!)

sparkle12mar08 Sun 19-May-13 19:16:09

To work out cup size subtract the underbust measurement from the over bust measurement, and then it's one cup size per inch. UK sizes mostly go as follows:
1 = A
2 = B
3 = C
4 = D
5 = DD
6 = E
7 = F
8 = FF
9 = G
10 = GG

But the important thing to note is that this is a starting point only. A good bra fit depends on style and cut as well, and this is where brands vary enormously.

So I measure 31.5 underneath and 42 dangling over. That gives me a core size of 32GG - 42-32 = 10 = GG. However I'm squishy of torso and after large amounts of trial and error I know I am most comfortable in a 30 back, and I mostly wear a 30H, which is the same cup volume as a 32GG. When you go down a band size, you need to compensate by going up a cup size.

Very occasionally a particular brand might miss out FF (M&S I'm looking at you!), but it's pretty reliable overall.

HalfSpamHalfBrisket Sun 19-May-13 19:20:20

Oh how I laughed when I started reading these threads! How could so many people have the wrong size...
I have just returned from M&S with a 34F bra thats fits perfectly. Rather than my usual 36/38 DD ones that don't.

Thank you MN Bra Fairies!

glamstretchmarks Sun 19-May-13 19:48:39

A REAL challenge for you -

ok I am really gonna need help from you bra fairies... I have a flat rib cage so my tiny boobs are further apart than the cups for my band size IYSWIM? That also means that when I measure my loose boobs I am measuring the larger gap too!! What should I do?

sparkle12mar08 Sun 19-May-13 19:55:13

Put a call out for marriedinwhite - she knows tonnes about different styles - it sounds to me as if you need a style/brand with a very wide central gore (the bit between the cups). PM her if needs be, she's brilliant!

Marriednotdead is the poster you are after. Can you give us an indication of the size you think you need, roughly, so we can suggest bras? What do you measure?

I could do with help finding styles too please! I need either a 30C/30D depending on fit, but find I often have to buy a 32B/C as it's so hard to find 30 backs in shops. I have wide-set boobs, plunge and moulded cup bras never fit me properly. I need balconette bras, but ones where the straps start at the edges IYSWIM? Otherwise I end up with it hanging out under my armpits. I have a wide gap inbetween my boobs.

BreakOut have you tried any of the Bravissimo half cup styles? IME they run small in the cup so it would be worth trying the DD, but are relatively wide in the middle. They're terrible on my (very close set) boobs! this is an example

In general you may quite like Panache (and cleo, a sub brand) as they normally have quite a wide central gore. The Indina has been recommended recently and the cleo Juna is a favourite with lots of ladies here. These start at D cup

JaquelineHyde Sun 19-May-13 20:59:11

Right ladies I have missed all of these bra threads and now having read this one I think I had better do some measuring and work out what I should be wearing.

So can someone please give me a fool's step by step guide to measuring and working out my size and I shall crack on and report back once I have done it.

have a look here and then post your measurements.

leelteloo Sun 19-May-13 21:17:07

I just wanted to let the bra fairies know that I finally found a bra that doesn't rub or hurt. I am so happy and relieved as my bra mission has been going on for many months and involved many trips to m&s ("bra fitting service":joke of the century!) and several trips to Bravisimo (awesome fitters but bras were still not right). I am now in a 32dd minimiser from m&s and its like a glove and I have finally found bra peace smilesmile

Thanks to these bra threads I've gone from wearing the 36C that M&S measured me as, to a 32DD that actually fits.

Oh I am glad leelteloo (and akiss!)

It can be a challenge finding the right bra - especially when you know what a good one should look like! It's quite a revelation though.

glamstretchmarks Sun 19-May-13 21:31:32

Marriednotdead is the poster you are after. Can you give us an indication of the size you think you need, roughly, so we can suggest bras? What do you measure?

Hi, thanks. I measure at a 30C but to get cups wide enough apart (well nearly) I am wearing a 34AA but the for is terrible in every single way... like BreakOut, I have wide set boobs, VERY wide set...

glamstretchmarks Sun 19-May-13 21:32:05

the **fit not for

glamstretchmarks Sun 19-May-13 21:39:26

Hmm, actually I have just taken my measurements and measure

loose - 33 and
above chest -33 also blush ... I have broad shoulders which is why I have the whole wide set boobs issue.

littlestressy Sun 19-May-13 21:39:39

Wow. I don't know what a bra intervention is but wanted to share my bra 'lightbulb' moment....
I was wearing a 34B for years and years, I have very small boobs. Went to John Lewis, got measured and she pronounced I was a 36DD. I thought absolutley no way but yes, the bra fits, it feels great and makes my whole top half look better (think no waist to suddenly having a waist).
What is bra intervention?

Littlestressy - a lot of companies are putting women in bras which plain don't fit. The biggest issue is using an old fashioned fitting method where they add 4 or 5 " to your underbust measurement to get your band size. This results in a bra which is too big in the back and too small in the cup. Most ladies don't realise it's wrong because they have been fitted in stores which are big names and make themselves out to be experts.

Have a look at the information on the blog just to make sure your new bra is right. John Lewis are one of the better places but not infallible and it is a little unusual to hear of people going up in the back when properly fitted.

nobodysfool Sun 19-May-13 21:45:10

Evening ladies.
After reading how to measure I'm a bit worried I have misunderstood.Around my body measures 33" (snug) and the 90 degree bust measurement is 43" (without squishing my boobs). So am I right in thinking I need a 32 if I round down and a GG cup size?????? I have done it wrong havent I?

Nobodysfool you're roughly right. I would suggest trying a few sizes because you are in between. Start with a 32GG, 32H, 34GG and 34G. Have a look at the info on the blog link above which explains how to test whether the bra fits or not.

littlestressy Sun 19-May-13 21:48:04

Ok thanks, whenever I went into M&S they would put me in a B cup so I was very surprised to get a DD! But the lady explained that my boobs (although they look small 'out front' IYSWIM) go quite a way across my body. Bra feels good, but I will definately check

Stats- no, I haven't tried those, we don't have a Bravissimo nearby, so it would mean spending ££ online, when theres a good chance the DD will be too big. But if the cups are small fitting it might be OK. There's barely anywhere that does that style, which is the style that fits and is comfiest, in a C cup!

glamstretchmarks Sun 19-May-13 21:51:14

statisticallychallenged - am I right at thinking I should be in 30C?

The Panache ones largely start at a D so they may be worth a try too. I'm afraid my knowledge of ranges which start below a D is a little limited as I've had G+ boobs for about a decade!

Littlestressy - what size did M&S put you in (back size?) We're becoming quite adept at calculating true bra size based on M&S duff sizing!

Roughly glamstretchmarks - possibly a 30D. However - you mentioned being quite broad - would you say you have quite a skinny torso (i.e. not much padding?)

If this is the case you might need a 32 back instead (and to go down a cup)

littlestressy Sun 19-May-13 21:55:59

ooooh just done that, I measure almost 33inches under and 38 when bent over so I should try a 34DD? Or a 32DD? But also try 34D and 32DD?
One question, when you wear an underwired bra should you get any kind of 'digging in' from the underwire (like in your armpit area?) also, back fat spilling over the top, is this just normal cos I need to loose some weight?

littlestressy Sun 19-May-13 21:57:16

sorry statistically just saw your post, M&S used to put me in back size 32 or 34

nobodysfool Sun 19-May-13 22:01:16

Thanks StatisticallyChallenged have just read all that info so feel well armed now.I seem to have problem with the central gore sitting flat and sometime the wire comes up too high near my armpit and rubs- was told its beacuse I have a very full and wide bust.

larlemucker Sun 19-May-13 22:02:48

Shamelessly marking so I can come back tomorrow with my measurements!!

glamstretchmarks Sun 19-May-13 22:02:59

I think it is fair to say I have NO padding SC grin Yeah I am very skinny so a 32B/C?

I bought a 32B for a sports bra cos it obviously needed to be tighter than the 34 I have been wearing. I can pull the whole 34 band really far out which is a bit daft...

John Lewis have got it wrong I'm afraid. For once M&S were closer (on the back)

I would suggest you start with a 32E, 32DD, 34DD and 34D.

Back fat - that needs to be scooped in to the bra. If it can't be scooped in it's a sign the bra doesn't fit properly. I still get a little (not a skinny girl by any stretch!) but it is much much reduced. But scooping only works if the back of your bra is small enough otherwise it slides back out.

I know going down a back size sounds counterintuitive to solve backfat but have a look at this for proof!

Nobodysfool - gore not sitting flat is generally a sign the cup isnt big enough (although you do get the odd bra which will just never work)
You sound like a similar shape to me. I like Bravissimo bras (betsy bow, alana etc), some Freyas (Lyla, Eleanor) and some Ewa Michalaks.

Glam I would suggest trying the 30 and 32s - it is a little more trial and error at slightly smaller cups to get them positioned properly but on the plus side you should have quite a good selection available.

glamstretchmarks Sun 19-May-13 22:10:13

I have tried a few 30s before but they cups are practically in the middle of my chest and half my boobs either side!! I will try to search for wide sit boobs but i am think i may need to start adding fabric to the middle of the bra...

littlestressy Sun 19-May-13 22:10:34

oh no!!! I thought I'd found a good one for once, so all that armpit fat should be in the bra?

GibberTheMonkey Sun 19-May-13 22:10:35

Belated thanks smile

nobodysfool Sun 19-May-13 22:15:01

thanks you so much StatisticallyChallenged im off to browse online.

Fraid so littlestressy. Don't be scared to try a bigger cup size than I said too - the 36DD suggests you might be somebody who needs a slightly bigger cup than they "measure". It depends on the shape and firmness of your boobs. But I am afraid armpit spill means the bra doesn't fit properly

littlestressy Sun 19-May-13 22:21:05

thanks, gutted that they still didn't measure me right.....deep inside think I had an inkling cos the wire is sort of hurting in my armpit

larlemucker Sun 19-May-13 22:29:35

Sorry if hijacking but a quick question.

There's a lingerie shop where I live that is meant to be very good at measuring/fitting etc
I went a few years ago and spent quite a bit on two bras which fit in the shop but after wearing them for half an hour and walking round I would fall our if the top if them (they were both plunge bras). I went back to the shop and showed them and was told that they were the right size but my boobs don't suit that style of bra.

Now if I want to wear either if these bras I have to tape my self in.

Is this right? Can I only ever wear balcony bras??

Whilst some people can't wear certain shapes of bras, actually completely falling out suggests the size may well not have been right.

larlemucker Sun 19-May-13 22:34:32

I thought so. I fall out to the point my areola is showing above the cup! Everyone raves about this shop and there is some lovely stuff in there but I have never been back since.

Have DS asleep on me at mo so can't measure but first thing in the morn I will do. Currently wearing M&S nursing bras which are nearly up round my neck and have zero support, and my boobs need support!!!

That sounds like a significantly too small cup to me!

CelticPromise Sun 19-May-13 22:41:42

I have soft and bottom heavy boobs and I will fall out of a plunge eventually, no matter how well it fits!So yes there are definitely styles that suit different shapes, and balcony is a very versatile style smile

I'd definitely agree Celtic - but if we are getting nipple escapage that's either a terrible bra or a terrible fit.

CelticPromise Sun 19-May-13 23:29:22

For sure SC. I have fallen out of many a moulded plunge, probably when I was wedging my 30Hs in a 36DD.

Wenchelda Sun 19-May-13 23:29:37

Wow just saw this thread that I started a while ago and realised I'd forgotten to report back. So.. I tried 30D but couldn't even get the band to meet, never mind do up but a 32C seems a good fit. I am truly amazed ... And actually have some sort of cleavage for the first time ever!!

WhatDoesTheDogSay Mon 20-May-13 08:50:31

Glad you've had success with this OP! May I ask a question please (if not too late to this thread)? Never had a well-fitting bra since stopping b'feeding just under a year ago. M&S measured me as 30C (even though i was proper bulging out the cups of the bra the lady brought for me to try). She then agreed that the 30D I was wearing was a better fit and just advised to try more 30Ds (so not that helpful). Following the bra intervention advice, I have just measured as 28.5/34. So 28F? Or I am actually skinny pretty slim so would 30E be better? I have a couple of 28DDs that I don't wear as they feel too tight around my back, the wires dig into my ribs and I don't seem to fill the cups ...
Any advice would be gratefully received!

WhatDoesTheDogSay Mon 20-May-13 08:55:54

Ps I start off with quadraboob in a 30D, but as the day wears on it all seems to loosen off. Suspect this is because it's too big around the back?

try a 28e to start . the d may have felt too small due to lack of cup space

Oldraver Mon 20-May-13 09:53:06

Thank you sparkle.....looks like I need to move up to a GG blush. I had moved to an F but realised my boobies were still squished.

I have always had problems with boned cups irritating me so have stuck with Shock Absorber for everyday

WhatDoesTheDogSay Mon 20-May-13 10:33:27

Thanks, StatisticallyChallenged, will order a couple of 28Es to try smile.

CelticPromise Mon 20-May-13 11:17:15

OldRaver you might find wires more comfortable in the correct size. Worth a try! Also I believe Shock Absorbers come up small so you may need to go bigger. The numbers are only a guide especially with the cup so don't be afraid to experiment.

JaquelineHyde Mon 20-May-13 11:30:58

Righty ho I have my measurements...

46 up right band measurements and 56 loose 90 degree boob measurements.

I'm a little bit worried about doing this as I have just lost approximately 10stone in weight (and have a nearly 3 week old baby) so I have no idea what bra size I should be. The last bra I got (about 5 weeks ago) was a 48DD.

So tell me ladies what should I be wearing?

sparkle12mar08 Mon 20-May-13 11:41:30

Start with a 46GG. Be prepared to try 46G & GG and probably 44GG & H too. Thos of us who are particularly squishy of torso, myself included, often find we need to size down a bit in the band. Additionally if you're continuing to lose weight (and massive congratulations btw, that's a stunning loss!) try and go for the 44's if they fit well and consider using an extender for a little while if necessary. That way you'll get much more life out of them. Extenders are only about a pound or so, so are well worth it.

start with a 46gg . However, it is very common for ladies with a squishy torso to need to go down one or more back sizes to get adequate support so don't be scared to try say a 44h or hh and even a 42

JaquelineHyde Mon 20-May-13 11:53:38

shock shock

I just can't imagine needing a cup size that big, I feel a fraud in the DD as they sometimes feel a little gapey

Oh and I am very squishy in my torso and everywhere else on my body so I will make sure I try the 44 and bra extender if needed.

I will be bra shopping next week so I will report back as soon as I have been.

nobodysfool Mon 20-May-13 13:46:56

* StatisticallyChallenged * I think you should hire yourself out to help us ladies with our bras. Love the designs on Bravissamo but the nearest one is a couple of hours away and cant afford to buy a variety even if I do send the majority back. smile

missnevermind Mon 20-May-13 16:27:22

If you lovely ladies are still helping out, I measured today and the results are
39 under bust measurement touching but not tight.
49 at the widest point at a 90 degree angle. (I waited till there was only me and the littlest in the house for this - she thought it was hilarious)
I stopped breastfeeding a year ago but am still wearing the bras as my old ones do not even touch together anymore.

SorrelForbes Mon 20-May-13 16:38:05

missnevermind OK, as you've said that you didn't take the underneath measurement tightly, I'd suggest starting with a 38H. However, as others have said further up the thread, some of us with squshy torsos can find that going down another band size works very well too. In your case this would be a 36. Remember to go up a cup too. So, try a 38H, 38GG, 36HH etc.

missnevermind Mon 20-May-13 16:58:38

Omg an H!
I wanted to start with some cheap non underwire bras as it has been a long time since I wore a proper bra. That's not going to happen with an H!

Rolling on the floor at the thought of me being a 36 I - if their is such a thing. grin. ( . ) ( . )

To disturb you - there is no I, it goes straight to a J!

TBH, non-wired just won't offer the support for bigger cups really. I'd suggest trying Panache and bravissimo own brand as they have the sturdiest wires.

nobodysfool I wish - sounds much more fun than the day job! My credit card gets a bit of a work out every time I have to do a bra shop because I know so many will go back!

missnevermind Mon 20-May-13 20:15:28

Yes I have snapped a wire or two in my time. And that was on E cups. I could be a real danger with H's.

They are less likely to snap when they fit properly - it's more of an issue if the cup is too small as the wire contorts and moves in a way it doesn't when it's a good fit.

Oldraver Tue 21-May-13 00:35:04

Celtic Yes I'm hoping being better sized would help, though some of my problems with bras come from me having very itchy skin and its very easily irritated. I had problems when manufacturers started to heat seal the clasp, though the Shock Absorber one seem ok. I also quite often go to tey on a bra and the fabric has itched me before I even turn it round

missnevermind Tue 21-May-13 07:25:02

Right. off to M&S this morning armed with this thread. I will ensconce myself in the changing room with armfuls of bras till I am happy and comfortable.

CelticPromise Tue 21-May-13 07:59:53

missnevermind I wouldn't waste your time with M&S, I believe they only do up to about a G so are unlikely to have what you're looking for. Their bigger bras also seem to be a bit flimsy for the job.

If you aren't near a Bravissimo you have a Debenhams or similar? You might get something there but mail order is probably your best bet I'm afraid.

CelticPromise Tue 21-May-13 08:03:02

OldRaver if you get on better with certain fabrics there is a poster called marriednotdead who knows All The Bras and can point you in the right direction. Perhaps it would be possible to alter a decent bra to cover the clasp? I have done that with one that irritated me.

If you can put your bras on backwards and turn them around easily that's definitely a too big in the back sign!

SorrelForbes Tue 21-May-13 08:38:43

OldRaver. That sounds annoying. I don't have a problem with materials (although who likes itchy lace?!) but I am allergic to nickel. I have to coat many hooks, clasps, etc with a coat of clear nail varnish after each wash.

missnevermind Tue 21-May-13 16:42:09

Well that was a waste of time. Shame I didn't see your warning Celtic.

I tried on quite a few. Decided the 38 G was comfortable and the best fit so bought 2.

They are going back as quickly as I can get back there!

I wore one round the house for a few hours and was ready to cut it off with a pair of scissors. The underwire was really digging into my side and got really painful.
I know some of it will be that I have not worn underwire for years now so need to get used to it, but I was in pain not just discomfort.


I suspect most of those may be the cup being too small - badly fitted underwires are damn painful. Ones that fit - not so much smile

But I agree with Celtic re M&S bras - I just don't think they scale them up properly for larger sizes.

Creamtea1 Tue 21-May-13 19:19:23

Hi, I've been pointed in this direction for bra advice! Just measured myself as per the bra guru blog - I'm 33 round the back and 41 on the boobs (bending over as per the guidelines). I'm 25 weeks pregnant. Pre preg I wore a 34B and size 8-10 clothes. at the mo in wearing 36C and size 10 mat clothes or 12 normal. so tell me how wrong I am as I think from reading the blog I should be trying a 32FF or something??

sparkle12mar08 Tue 21-May-13 20:13:22

Being mid-pregnancy complicates things a bit as your rib cage will still expand a bit more, but your current measurements suggest 32G as a starting point. So you might want to try that, plus 32GG, 34FF and 34G. You may have to use extenders for a bit or may need bigger cup sizes later on. Either way, 36C is at least three cup size volumes too small.

Creamtea1 Tue 21-May-13 21:05:44

Thank you sparkle - I think I need to go and try some on or see if I can order some good ones online. I can't believe I am that far off the mark!! I must admit that apart from sports bras I have never found one that I really find comfortable and makes me a nice shape.

cjbk1 Tue 21-May-13 21:06:22

to whom it may concern;
I have asked before but I stopped BF'ing about 3wk ago (baby not interested anymore hmm) it was a very gradual tailing off if relevant? boobs seemed to have stopped shrinking please God I'm wearing a 32a which seems to be trying to move upwards/boobs slipping downwards
I measure 30 under bust and 34 across nips while leaning forwards as advised so what size please? I'm quite excited about getting reacquainted with the figleaves site thanks x

Start with a 30D and work from there

Hi folks and bra gurus smile Sorry I've not been around much lately, RL has driven me nuts kept me busy.
Am probably about tomorrow if there's anything I can help with.

cjbk1 Tue 21-May-13 21:57:39

Thank you statisically I do appreciate the prompt,free help x

SorrelForbes Tue 21-May-13 22:10:28

Hi Married

Loving my Panache Idina

deeplybaffled Tue 21-May-13 23:10:45

Ok, I'm rather baffled. Have just done my best with a tape measure and mirror and appear to be 35-36 underneath and 40 over the chest at the prescribed 90 degree angle. Have been wearing 36b for most of my life, have broad shoulders and pitifully little by way of cleavage without serious padding. But if my 36 measurement was right, then that would mean I'm more than a b cup.....and recently, on t-shirt type bras in a 36b, the straps have been everyway which, but the cups gape sadly. So what am I doing wrong?! Or should I give up and go back to vests or something.......all advice appreciated!

A lot of women wear a slightly smaller back size than they measure - I am wondering if you should try a 34 back but with a bigger cup. The gaping isn't always due to excess cup but due to the back being too loose so they fall forward. I'd maybe try a 34DD/E to start with

Oh, and have you scooped?

deeplybaffled Tue 21-May-13 23:24:20

Not that I know clearly clueless at this kind of stuff! Do you mean sort of gathering it up forlornly and trying to tuck it into the cups?

Scooping is a little more...vigorous smile

Basically - any "fat"/soft tissue which you have escaping under your armpits, around the back of your bra, beside the straps etc...that's actually breast tissue, and it belongs in the cup. so...

Lean forward, drop your breasts in to the cups and do the bra up at the back. Now, take your right hand, put it round inside the left cup, all the way round under your armpit, and scoop all the soft tissue and flesh in to the cup. You may have to be quite firm to get it forward. You might not know it, but all that soft tissue under your armpit is breast, and it needs to be in the cup. Now, repeat on the other side. The wire should totally encase your soft breast tissue, and you should have no overspill or wrinkling in the cups. The central gore should sit flat in between your boobs.

deeplybaffled Tue 21-May-13 23:54:05

I shall give this a go, but sounds one to try at home first before in a changing room;) another dumb question, but when you fasten the hooks, is it the middle set of the three that you should aim for? Or does it vary, depending on make?
Thanks so much!

SorrelForbes Wed 22-May-13 00:12:20

Always the loosest hooks for a new bra. After quite a lot of wear you may find that the bra has stretched and then you should move to the middle or tightest hooks.

DowntonTrout Wed 22-May-13 09:03:31

I've never really read these threads because I thought how hard is it, really, to know what size bra you should be wearing.


After wearing a 36D for years, I just did the measurement thingy. shock
It's 34 underneath, measured quite snug, and 41 bent over, measured looser. By my reckoning that makes me a 34G???

I did this because I was trying on bikinis recently and tried the scooping thing and it was clear that the cup sizes i was trying were too small. I have also had a problem with a bra, that I thought fitted, where the underwire was digging in to me at the side, this is because it was just sitting on breast tissue isn't it? My goodness, I'm going to go to Oxford Street today and TRY ON BRAS!

try a 34f-the dd counts as an inch too

DowntonTrout Wed 22-May-13 09:37:43

Oh ok. Will do. I thought it sounded big.

SorrelForbes Wed 22-May-13 09:56:55

Go to Bravissimo on Oxford St, it's their Flagship store.

DrinkFeckArseGirls Wed 22-May-13 11:02:11

I'm 29,5 underneath and 36 hangung down but in a bra. Do I need to let it all hang out braless? Also tge 32D/ DD I've BEEN WEARING PRE-pregnancy are too toght so I would've thought I need to wear a 34?!

measure again letting it all hang out. I suspect they feel tight due to inadequate cup space

Creamtea1 Wed 22-May-13 17:00:40

I have had a bra revelation!! I got a 32F today. Put it on and the cups seem to fit perfectly, the back strap does feel tight but I presume that's a) because its brand new and b) because I have become accustomed to wearing a 34 or 36 band which must have been too loose, ie what I feel is a normal band fit has actually been too loose.
I feel like there is a tiny amount of back fat at the back but maybe as the bra wears in and elastic loosens slightly that will go?

Have you tried scooping more? You might still have a little backfat (i'm a 30 back but quite big otherwise and I always have a little bit) but most can be scooped

Creamtea1 Wed 22-May-13 17:33:26

Thanks, I will try that - I'm so glad I found this thread smile I feel like my boobs are now now 'up' and there is a clear gap between them and the baby bump whereas before it just felt like they were resting on it!

DrinkFeckArseGirls Wed 22-May-13 20:43:03

Ok, so I'm 29,5 under the bust and 37,5 leaning. Not really a flattering position... hmm

Oh it's not sexy ;)

Start by trying a 30F/FF and work from there. Don't be scared to try a 28FF/G in some brands too

DrinkFeckArseGirls Wed 22-May-13 20:57:44

Thanks! What is this scooping you're talking about? I've noticed the current bra 32DD is cutting in at the back - 2 fat rolls (grim). so to avoid the back fat, what do I need to scoops> The front or the back?
<thick emoticon>

DrinkFeckArseGirls Wed 22-May-13 21:04:13

I looked at Bravissimo, very nice but they are all around £30 sad. What is abit more affordable? Moving soon so no spare dosh...

Brastop, Leia (outlet section), mycurvesandme, Clara Olivia, Amazon have some great deals, sometimes debenhams sale....

Scooping - yup that back fat you mention- it belongs in the cup. Basically - any "fat"/soft tissue which you have escaping under your armpits, around the back of your bra, beside the straps etc...that's actually breast tissue, and it belongs in the cup. so...

Lean forward, drop your breasts in to the cups and do the bra up at the back. Now, take your right hand, put it round inside the left cup, all the way round under your armpit, and scoop all the soft tissue and flesh in to the cup. You may have to be quite firm to get it forward. You might not know it, but all that soft tissue under your armpit is breast, and it needs to be in the cup. Now, repeat on the other side. The wire should totally encase your soft breast tissue, and you should have no overspill or wrinkling in the cups. The central gore should sit flat in between your boobs.

Chances are you will have some quadboob in your current bra after you do this, and because it's a 32 the fat won't stay forward as the back isn't small enough

Creamtea1 Wed 22-May-13 21:07:59

Could have a look on the outlet section of figleaves? There are some on there from about £9. I ordered a 32F to go with my new 32E bought today mainly for a try and also incase I need larger cuppage as pregnancy progresses.

DrinkFeckArseGirls Wed 22-May-13 21:27:21

Oooh, technical grin

chinup2011 Thu 23-May-13 12:10:24

Some help needed here please too:
I've established I'm a 32GG although I measure 33 under bust.
A 34 band seems more comfortable as I'm probably used to the baggy affairs that I have previously referred to as bras. My problem is the cups cut in badly at the front of my arms, I have narrow shoulders but the GG cup seams to be fine. I've tried a 34G , with the same effect. There is a bit of back fat too with a 32GG but I may not have scooped enough.
My feelings are a wider back and smaller cup size, am I right?

sparkle12mar08 Thu 23-May-13 12:20:11

It sounds more like a style issue than a size one tbh. If you say the cup volume seems to be fine (no quad boob on top? smooth cup line?) then back fat won't be solved by going up in the band, quite the contrary. Are you trying balconettes with wide settings? Many are too wide for me and I do have to put up with a little bit of digging and rubbing on the strap side of the cup, because I live the Marie Antionette cleavage they give me, but the sizing is actually fine. But there's are lots of styles and some very knowledgeable posters here, I'm sure they can make recommendations of brands and styles to try.

DoctorRobert Thu 23-May-13 12:33:18

Can I join in? I've measured myself to be 30" under bust, and 40" around the fullest part when bending over. Does that make me a 30GG? shock

If so it's no wonder my bras don't fit, I haven't measured myself for ages and am currently wearing a 34E!

sparkle12mar08 Thu 23-May-13 12:39:14

Yup, you got it! Welcome to the amazing world of properly fitting bras - you'll never look back!

chinup2011 Thu 23-May-13 13:10:31

Thank you

It was actually a M&S t- shirt bra, very basic in design, but it is the area where the straps join the cups that rub ( too much to put up with) if I had wider shoulders the straps could be pulled out wider iyswim.
Do balconette styles finish lower at the side of the cup?

sparkle12mar08 Thu 23-May-13 13:17:05

Lots do, but many are also quite widely set, so it's a lot of trial and error I'm afraid. Curvy Kate and Bravissimo are generally very wide set in their balcony/balconette styles for example, Cleo Juna a bit less so, yet there's something about the cut of the Bravissimo's I've tried that mean they seem to rub less despite being wide wired. It's a minefield I'm afraid! Lots of trying on, lots of returning, and do not cut labels out untill you've tried them for at least a couple of hours around the house. A five minute session in a changing room or your bedroom doesn't really cut it.

chinup2011 Thu 23-May-13 13:35:14

Thanks Sparkle, you're right it's a minefield, I'll do what you say but I can't wait to find something comfortable, I'm so sick of wobbling out of my current ones.

As a general rule, full cups and plunges are a bit narrow set than balconettes or half cups too. But definitely serious trial and error too

SorrelForbes Thu 23-May-13 15:59:24

I find that many t-shirt bras, especially the moulded type, rub under the arms.

DrinkFeckArseGirls Thu 23-May-13 21:44:18

hmm @ this link

I'm not 34C even by my own faulty measurements prior to coming to this thread.

DrinkFeckArseGirls Thu 23-May-13 21:44:49

GRRRRRRR this is the sort of crap info we're fighting!!!

DrinkFeckArseGirls Thu 23-May-13 21:53:09

They're all like this... Been trying to put my new boob hanging down measurements in a calculator and that's all I've been getting just now. 34C

Its because they almost all use +4/5 inches. There are a couple of sensible ones but they are generally limited to blogs/bra enthusiast websites. A sensible pair and the butterfly collection are two I can think of.

SorrelForbes Thu 23-May-13 22:27:15

That calculator puts me at a 34E. How, ummmm, wonderful confused (better than M&S's attempt though!)

littledolly Thu 23-May-13 22:54:52

Only just found this thread. As someone who has put on weight recently and stuck with the same bras because I can't be bothered changing, even though my fat is hanging out the sides, I really need help!
I seem to be a 37 and 42 when I am bent over. I'm currently wearing 36B, but that fitted me when I was over 2 stone lighter. Am I right in thinking I'm either 36D or 38D????

Try a 36E, 36DD, 38DD and 38D. Most likely the 36 back

Hey bra ladies. I need advice.

Pre-pregnancy, I was a 32B. After having my daughter, considerably more saggy of boob (I used to pass the pencil test... not anymore) I went to Rigby & Peller and was declared a 32D. Fast forward a year and I've finally lost some baby weight and my bra cups are distinctly roomy.

I hurriedly tried on a 32B and 32D in Debenhams this week (only one style in each size - 32s were thin on the ground) and both gave me the four boob effect.

So, I measured myself and I'm 31 around the rib cage, or 30 pulled tight. Bent over I measure 37. Surely to goodness I can't be a 30F? I consider myself pretty flat chested!

The only reason I measure 37 at a dangle is because my boobs, tragically, sag a bit. I do not have full breasts AT ALL.

Can you order a bunch of differently sized bras online and then return? My toddler is a tyrant and would not tolerate more than five minutes stuck in a changing room with me, so most shops are out.

*I tried on a 32B and 32C, I should have said.

SorrelForbes Thu 23-May-13 23:28:49

OK, if you're getting the dreaded quadra-boob in a 32C then you definitely need to size up in the cup. On your measurements, I'd say try a 30F. This is really only the same cup volume as a 32E which is 3 cups bigger than the 32C which didn't fit!

Try ordering from sites like BraStop, Bravissimo, Figleaves, My Curves and Me. I'd order a plunge and a balconnette in a 30F, 30E, and a 30DD.

HarleyQuinn Thu 23-May-13 23:59:13

Hi all you lovely bra fairies!

I thought I would try this,

I measure 30 under my ribcage
and 34 dangling, ( quite saggy, unfortunately after second child sigh)
I appear to be a D something would this be right?

SorrelForbes Fri 24-May-13 00:08:15


Try a 30D. However, be prepared to go bigger in the cup in some styles. My DSis measures 28, 33 and actually wears a 28F/FF!

HarleyQuinn Fri 24-May-13 00:12:06

30D! I have never thought I would ever be that big, Thank you I will try some tomorrow.

deeplybaffled Fri 24-May-13 00:33:45

Having just tried that calculator link, it declared me to be a 40 aasad
And that's with 35 or 36 bsnd size and a 40 boob measurement.

SorrelForbes Fri 24-May-13 00:37:21

Honestly, ignore nearly all on-line calculators. They are shit. I'd say you're more like a 34E.

chinup2011 Fri 24-May-13 08:05:40

This thread has revolutionised my life just about. My posture has changed since wearing a larger cup size, but here's the thing: it's all in the scoop. It seems vital that you really scoop properly. I've gone from dismissing a bra looking too big in the cup and too much back fat, the same bra- no back fat and quad boobs! but with a determined scoop and leaning forward into the bra. It's now comfortable too.
I've ordered several sizes from Brastop and CAN'T WAIT to get trying them on.
So ladies its the scoop that really is vital it seems.

sparkle12mar08 Fri 24-May-13 08:07:10

Indeed! I do a quick scoop every time I go to the loo these days. Which given my bladder is multiple, multiple times a day, sadly...

SorrelForbes Fri 24-May-13 08:16:31

I am always scooping (or as DH calls it, groping myself).

Theala Fri 24-May-13 10:51:43

deeplybaffled same! I am a 40A, apparently. I'm in France, so I've also done the Aubade calculator and that also declares me to be 40A. Which is what M&S said I was years and years ago.

Can anyone tell me if they're right? I'm 92cm/36.2" underneath and 103/40.5 around the boob leaning over. I've been wearing 38B most of my life, and that can sometimes be ok-ish, and sometimes lead to horrendous sideboob/backfat issues.

36d or dd needed-online calculators almost always add 4 inches.

Theala Fri 24-May-13 11:00:25

for me, SC? If so, thank you! I shall go and try on expensive bras this evening! (And then decide I can't afford them, probably.) grin

yup for you. have a wee gander at the blog for what a good bra looks like and how to test the fit

Juneywoony Fri 24-May-13 11:05:09

Ok ladies need some help, when you measure the boobs leaning over do you measure around where the nipple is, my nipples are quite pokey (chapel hat pegs have been mentioned in the past)blush Can this distort the measurement?

Theala Fri 24-May-13 11:08:09

ok, will do, thank you!

Juneywoony Fri 24-May-13 11:21:13

My measurements are 29.5 if pulled really tight 30 if not and over boob squeezing nipples in 37 and slightly over 38 if not.

Was recently measured a 32 f at debenhams

don't worry about the nipples -the cup sizet measure is only ever approximate so you will probably want to try sizes either side anyway

June try a 30ff and g

Creamtea1 Fri 24-May-13 19:11:49

Just reporting on day 3 of my new bra - was wearing 36c, measured as per advice here and then got 32F. Am now used to tighter band and have adjusted strap length slightly until have found it just right. Today bra was comfy, firm and boobs look good! No lumps, bumps etc. am awaiting delivery of another 2, all being well will then throw out the 34B, 34c and 36c's that are in my drawers! Bra revolution grin

DrinkFeckArseGirls Fri 24-May-13 20:17:48

How do you calculate that 30 inches and 37 are 30F/ FF. how can I work it out myself if I change shape when the online calculators are crap?

It's 1" difference=1 cup size. Cup sizes in most UK brands go A,B,C,D,DD,E,F,FF,G,GG,H,HH,J,JJ,K,KK,L,LL

If you measure an even number underneath, then that is your band and the difference gives you cup. So a 30/37 would be around a 30F

If you measure an odd number then you will want to consider bands either size, and it;s debatable whether it's the difference between your measurements, or your top measurment and the actual band. So, if you measured 31/37 you would try:

30F (7" difference so overbust-lower band size)
30E (6" difference i.e. difference between your measurements)
32E (as above but on higher band
32DD (5" difference, overbust-top band size)

chinup2011 Sat 25-May-13 11:14:21

Hi again, received this morning a delivery of a few bras!
I'm measuring a 34GG but the majority of them sit fine around the band but I could pinch about 1inch worth of looseness from the strap to the centre front, would I go down a cup size but keep the band the same and do you think this would help with the cutting in at the front of the arms. Looking at my boobs I think a balconette style could probably work best as it is the upper part of the boob which is missing, they are seriously droopy! But I read up post that the straps are wide set so may cut in at side of arms.
Any help appreciated.

CajaDeLaMemoria Sat 25-May-13 12:13:20

I woke up wearing a 34C.

Im now wearing a 32E, which is oh-so-comfortable. Although the band feels like it's suffocating me! I'm not used to being able to feel it.

Thank you all so, so much.

EricNorthmansFangBanger Sat 25-May-13 18:13:34

Ok I'm confused. I've just done the measurements and I'm measuring a 45 round the bottom bit and then a 58 around the chest. Does that mean a 44J? I'm currently wearing a 44G cup but my boobs spill out a bit - granted I am breastfeeding at the moment. How tight should I have pulled around to measure the back size? After 3 pregnancies my boobs are uneven so I took the 58 measurement in keeping with the bigger boob - is that correct?

EricNorthmansFangBanger Sat 25-May-13 18:18:27

Sorry make that a 42 around the back

PinkMangoSays Sat 25-May-13 18:44:45

under 29.75
boobs 33.5
I've been wearing a 32B but it's always riding up/straps falling off

I don't have a clue how to get my size from those measurements?! could I have some help? do I round up/down etc (as i'm so small I think those half inches really count!)

sparkle12mar08 Sat 25-May-13 19:46:19

Try a 30D and sizes surrounding, so 30D and 28DD. You might need to try 30C and 28D too.

Eric - start with a 42KK to start (based on 42/58). I'm afraid you are going to find the selection is a bit pathetic though. Because you are slightly larger you may actually find you need a smaller back size than you measure - it's to do with both torso squishiness and the amount of stretch a larger bra may have so you might also want to try a 40 back. The Bravissimo Alana only goes to a 40 back but comes in a KK and L so maybe try those as a starter?

PinkMangoSays - start with a 30C and 30D. Both the issues you mention are normally symptoms of the back being too big.

bumblebeebag Sat 25-May-13 20:05:30

I have been lurking for many days now and I'm tentatively ready to step into the bra changing room.....
I've never done the adding 4 or 5 thing because I'm 38 band, and all the shops in my budget never seemed to do above that in small cup sizes. Only now, I'm not so sure I'm a small cup size.

Currently wearing 38B. The band rolls up a bit and if I even mildly scoop I get quadroboobs.
I measure 38 and 43. So is that a 38DD? But they just look enormous. Is it going to be possible to find a seamless/ Tshirt one that doesn't give me a false-boob-at-the-top-effect? I'm wondering what sort of shape to look for to prevent that, I do have a very ill advised maternity bra that always made me look like I had balloons up my top because the cups were so round all the way, and I just didn't fill them right the way up!

Sadly, my budget is very much Tesco/ Asda/ M&S end.

I know I'm last in a long line of requesters, but if anyone has any thoughts, please let me know!

Size wise yes, a 38DD. There are quite a lot of seamless/t-shirt bras available and if you shop online you can probably get a really decent bra for M&S type prices - brastop, mycurvesandme, amazon are all great for bargains.

Can you explain what you mean by the "false boob at the top" effect? Is it that your boobs are quite bottom heavy so you fill the bottom of the bra, but not the top?

Moulded/tshirt bras are actually the hardest to fit simply because the moulding gives them a very specific shape. If that shape matches your breast shape you're fine but otherwise you end up with gaping. I'm wondering if you might like something like the Cleo Juna or the Panache Idina which are balconettes so not as high at the top - so wouldn't have the emptiness issue.

bumblebeebag Sun 26-May-13 11:19:45

Bottom heavy boobs- that was exactly what I meant! Thank god someone else knows how to use actual real phrases.....
Thank you for the tips, once I've got rid of the kids for a bit I'll get started on looking. And I'll let you know how it goes!

chinup2011 Sun 26-May-13 11:54:55

Yes! That's it Bumble, I've the same make boobs- bottom heavy, I'm after a t-shirt bra but the top bit is empty. Im sure going round in circles with this fitting thing. I think t- shirt bras are now not going to be any good, I've never found a successful one yet.

Good tshirt bras, even for softer boobs, are not impossible, but how well they work is dependent on breast shape. The one important point with lack of volume is that the centre gore needs to have some depth otherwise the breast tissue will slide towards/out of the centre and leave gaps at the top where the strap joins the cup.

I'd recommend trying the following styles

Fantasie (all run a cup large so may need to size down)- Rebecca, smoothing (code FL4510), and their other smoothing which has no foam (better on rounder, not too soft, shaped boobs)

Cleo- Juna (fits to size) and Maddie (really small/tight so need to go up a band and/or cup but a great shape)

Panache- Porcelain balconette (go up a cup)

Debenhams- comfort cup tshirt bra. Most Debenhams styles are a little tight/small so be prepared to size up.

Oops, I forgot.

Elomi do a couple of tshirt styles, they start at a 34 band. Great if you are fleshy and find other styles squish out underarm or are too pointy.

bumblebeebag Mon 27-May-13 08:39:11

Woooo- bottom heavy boob club!
Kind of getting excited about having nice bras. Also imagining total figure transformation, which may be less realistic.

ThingummyBob Mon 27-May-13 09:23:27

I've just read this thread in wide-eyed fascination smile

I was measured in m&s just after xmas and told I needed a 36 or 38D.
The bras I bought that day have never been comfy though.

I've just measured myself and I'm a snug 35" underneath and 44" with boobs hanging at 90 degree angle.

I am shock that I have been wearing the wrong size it seems. No wonder I get over spill from the cups!

If I've understood the thread I should be trying a 34F to start with should I?

Yup, and be prepared to go up in the cup. Being between band sizes often means going down, but if you feel mad enough compelled to return to M&S bear in mind that many if their styles are quite tight, and they skip some letters hmm so you could be bigger in both band AND cup.

Actually, not F, more like G/GG.

ThingummyBob Mon 27-May-13 09:50:11

Thanks Married, and Oh god no, I won't be returning M&S! I have a bravissimo in town so I'll start with one or two from there!

ThingummyBob Mon 27-May-13 09:51:41

Aargh G/GG ?!

I have spent years trying to get bra's that fit properly... no wonder they never really have!

Joycey29 Mon 27-May-13 11:54:21

Ok - I ve been an advocate of wearing the correct bra size for years and have an extensive underwear range to prove it. Basically, I feel if I'm properly dressed underneath then all is good.
So in light of your amazing blog i thought i would remeasure to check.
I think I'm a 34c, all seems right from the way my bras fit, no bulges, no movement, good shape under clothes etc.
Anyway, I measured with your rule (I measure 33 and 37)and so I reckon it comes out as 32DD. I was amazed but duly sent DH out to buy one to see. Bless him he bought 30DD but to be honest in every contortion possible I had a 4 inch gap between the ends.
Am taking bra back to exchange tomorrow, will try on a couple but can't see a 32 getting round me??

I remember my first proper fitting about 7/8 years ago where I was taken up a cup from E to F. It had never occurred to me that anything beyond E existed, it had taken that long to find an E <peers wistfully down at G cups>

There are many variances of sizing and shape between brands and styles so the 34Cs you have could well be ok. Out of interest, try a 34D and 32DD in the same style and see how that goes. If there's not enough cup room, the bra band won't be able to get close enough to your body to fasten comfortably.

I see many women who think their size is right because they are not bulging over, but they often have a wide flesh filled gap between the outer edge of the cups and the side seams of the bra. If it's firm it won't bulge but it's still breast and should be in the cup.

As married says, the cup on a 30DD will be distorting things too as it's really designed for someone who measures around 35" across the bust. Even if I try to put something in the right band size, but too small in the cup, then I will often seriously struggle to do it up.

I had a similar size change, went from a 32F/FF to a 30G (years ago!) and I had thought my 32FFs were fine but going down that single back size actually made a huge difference. There was nothing obviously bad about the 32s until I compared them.

Awks Mon 27-May-13 14:45:59

Hi just measured and am 33 under and 42 hanging loose. So maybe a 34 g? As oposed to the 38dd I am currently falling out of all over the place. No wonder i look like I have about 8 breasts on each side. Kinell am going to Debenhams. Right. Now.

Try a 32G, 32GG, 34G and 34FF to start with - you will probably be somewhere around those sizes!

Your description of 8 breasts made me giggle - one of my friends was like that, a 30GG in a 36D. She had one in the cup, one over the top, one in the armpit, one escaping underneath the wires and at least one at the back too.

RollerCola Mon 27-May-13 15:31:08

Does anyone know if Curvy Kate bras are any good for bottom heavy boobs? Their prices seem quite good on bra stop. Also any idea if they're true to size?

which ones roller? their showgirl range especially the tease and thrill me, and fleurty might be good. I would say they run a cup small maybe a little more and those ones have very stretchy backs too. I'd order a few to try

RollerCola Mon 27-May-13 16:15:23

Yes the tease me/thrill me & also the Gia are all less than £20. I think they're all balconette styles - are these the style I need to be looking at if I'm bottom heavy? What about the times when I need a bit of ooomph though? I always thought a plunge style was better for cleavage? (I'm a 30e so not massive)

Awks Mon 27-May-13 16:16:42

OMFG I have bought a 32GG. It was either a 34G on the tightest hook or a 32GG on the loosest one that fit best out of the 27 bras I tried on and it feels snug but I only have one boob now. How can I have got it SO wrong, though saying that I was fitted for a 36dd in M & S about 6 months ago. Thank you SO much

sparkle12mar08 Mon 27-May-13 16:20:40

I've a few CKs and Statistically is right, there's a lot of stretch in the padded Showgirl range, I measure 31.5 under but wear a 28 in Tease Me and Thrill Me! And yes they are small in the cup, I normally wear a 30H but need a 28J (ie. 30HH) in these. Yet the unpadded normal lace ones are fairly true to size (Angel, Emily, Portia etc) and I wear a 30GG or H in those.

As to shape, the Showgirls are very open on top so can look stunning with full all over boobs - think very Marie Antoinette! But the support is mostly around the bottom half of the cup. They are quite wide set wires and a relatively shallow forwards projection, think in and up as opposed to forwards and up.

RollerCola Mon 27-May-13 17:21:12

Thanks sparkle, so if I measure 29.5 and 36 and currently wear 30E would you suggest I go for 28FF in the tease me/thrill me range? Don't think they go any lower than 28.

MsCellophane Mon 27-May-13 18:57:23

I don't have a tape measure but last time I did, I ended up buying 44A

I think I remember under boob measuring 39 - so working backwards, any have any idea of what cup I should try (thinking I need to try 38 & 40 band)

I'm guessing you measure 45 across - that was probably taken standing up so may be slightly on the low side. On the basis you are 39 under (and probably not measured hugely tightly) you are probably closer to a 38F/FF ish

sparkle12mar08 Mon 27-May-13 19:23:13

RollerCola - def the 28 from my experiences, the degree of stretch is considerable and the 30 would go to about 36" at full stretch. Order the F and FF and possibly even a G just to check. They are very open so for me the even larger cup provides just a little bit more security!

sparkle12mar08 Mon 27-May-13 19:25:53

My big issue with the non padded CKs though is the slightly odd shape I feel they have - it's a very pointy east-west sort of thing, even in my correct size. I much prefer the rounded shape of the Showgirl range - they may not be smooth t-shirt bras but with a cardi on or in the winter, hell, who doesn't need the thrill of knowing you've got shit hot underwear on?! I wear mine at least a couple of times a week grin

I'm like you sparkle - I don't care if people can see seams. T-shirts bras aren't great on me and frankly it's pretty damn obvious I am wearing a bra anyway!

sparkle12mar08 Mon 27-May-13 20:09:40

Too right! These puppies are not going free range anytime soon!

HazleNutt Mon 27-May-13 20:23:50

Awks I would take photos, send them to M&S and complain. It's just appalling - they are responsible for thousands of four-boobs and aching backs.

Awks - Sadly this is M&S's standard operating model - shove women in shit bras. They tried to put me (30HH/J) in a 36F, Sorrel (30G/GG) in a 38d and several others equally grim. There are some reviews of their fitting service (we mystery shopped them!) on the blog and we harrassed them a fair old bit on social media too. But they don't care

This is amazing! If I measure 31 below bust and 36 loose at widest part, have I calculated correctly 30E? My boobs are quite small, sounds an odd size - I wear 32B

MustafaCake Mon 27-May-13 21:19:21

Thank you ladies, I stumbled on this thread browsing MN and I am now wearing THE MOST COMFY BRA EVER.

Was measured as a 38C at M&S recently but using your method am now in a much more comfy 34F.


make - try a 30dd, 30e, 32dd and 32d. but the 30e is the most likel

mustafa - oh, look, M&S get it wrong.....again!!

Lambzig Tue 28-May-13 10:39:37

Could I ask about bikinis please?

You have already helped me from an MandS 36C recently measured, to a 30FF in Freya. Obviously, I look so much better, but I have also noticed that my creepy cleavage has gone, obviously not being squashed wrongly means the wrinkles have gone too.

Obviously, I will throw out my 34D bikini tops, but I also have several dress sized 12 bikini tops which still look ok. Is it worth getting bra sized swimwear and do you know if i would get the same size? Does anyone have advice about brands?

HazleNutt Tue 28-May-13 10:45:48

yes, it's absolutely worth to get bra sized bikinis - first time I got them, I was amazed - "Look! I can actually walk around without falling out of the top!!"

The same brands that have been recommended for bras do nice bikinis as well - Freya, Panache, Fantasie etc.

Autumn12 Tue 28-May-13 11:52:20

I need some more help from you bra experts!

We worked out on a couple of previous threads that I should be in a 32D or DD. I'm wearing a 32D bra today and it's getting really uncomfortable! The band is really tight and digging in. If I wasn't at work I would be taking the bra off it's that uncomfortable! My around body measurement was 31.5. Should I try sizing up to a 34 band?

it's unlikely that you would need a 34. are you certain that you have adequate cup space? sometimes bras can look ok to begin with but then your boobs settle in to them and change the comfort level.

Autumn12 Tue 28-May-13 12:14:43

How do I tell if the cup space is not enough? It's not gaping at all (a problem I used to have).

The band is very tight (leaves red marks) and the last set of hooks are only just doing up.

HazleNutt Tue 28-May-13 12:16:26

could also depend on the brand, some are significantly smaller than the others.

Did you scoop? Put a tight t-shirt on, breathe in - is there any spillage over the edge of the bra?

Autumn12 Tue 28-May-13 12:23:07

I'm pregnanat so all of my T-shirts are tight wink.

Its a Mothercare Maternity Bra if that makes any difference. No spillage out of the cups, but my boob does sort of sit ever so slightly over the band if that makes sense? Almost like the straps need to be tightened to hoik my boobs up a bit but if they are any tighter they start to hurt at the top of the cup.

the stuff that is sitting over the band needs hauled in to the cup. also if it is a new bra it should be on the loosest hook

HazleNutt Tue 28-May-13 12:49:54

It's a non-wired bra? Those never fit as well and underwired ones unfortunately. So try both bigger back and bigger cup and see which one is better.
(am also pregnant and not giving up my normal bras)

I was like you hazle, no giving up on wires here either

Autumn12 Tue 28-May-13 13:08:40

The stuff that is sitting over the band is inside the cup already. It seems to be the bra that is focring the boob into this shape as they don't sit like this usually. i.e. naked I couldn't hokld a pencil under my breast but I almost could with this bra on.

It's also on the loosest hook, not a chance of it even meeting on any of the other hooks, and I think that on the loosest it's struggling.

It is an unwired bra. I haven't seen any wired maternity bra's and my usual bra's were really not working for me anymore (36A's). I've really struggled to find any maternity bra's in a 32 band, and I don't really want to spend lots on them as I will hopefully only be wearing them for another 10 weeks.

that sounds like a dreadful bra tbh. personally I did not wear maternity bras at all-I just wore normal ones. If you are planning to breast feed then you will want to buy proper feeding bras nearer the time or after baby arrives but during pregnancy you might be as well buying a couple of normal bras to tide you over

Autumn12 Tue 28-May-13 13:21:17

Thanks. I so wish you cuold come and take a look at it!

Autumn12 Tue 28-May-13 13:42:20

Out of interest where do you find underwired feeding bra's?

HazleNutt Tue 28-May-13 13:46:23

Nursing bras here:

Like SC, I just bought regular bras in a bigger size instead of maternity bras.

Autumn12 Tue 28-May-13 13:50:33

Thanks I'll take a look. I've found a shortage of 32 back in normal bra's too for some reason.

HazleNutt Tue 28-May-13 13:58:10

Figleaves should have enough normal ones in 32, also ebay. But yes, thanks to the "Katie Price is 34DD" and similar myths, shops often only stock huge back sizes with anything over D-cup.

cjbk1 Tue 28-May-13 17:19:25

dear all esp. statically I have mixed news; I agree with the 30D Measurement I went to Debenhams on Saturday and tried on a load (i was pleased that they even had some) however none gave any cleavage whatsoever the strapless nude wonderbra looked like a big plaster there were two girls working who seemed to know what they were doing (but busy with others) but as I was with the baby I came back today without her, a different lady was working she only measured me under bust and tried to give me 30a and 32a again (saying a newer bra wld fit better) none of which were flattering at all and gave me fat under the armpits I'm really disheartened now not sure what to do someone has suggested M&S but they were no good to me before as I've mentioned on here some time ago.... I don't know whether to just order some more 30D online or what to do? just feels like one more bad small boob experience hmm not blaming anyone x

ThingummyBob Tue 28-May-13 17:57:49

Thanks to this thread I've been bra shopping today and I'm now very comfy in a 34F after wearing 36/38D for ages!

Got three from Debenhams, not sure on the range but it was definitely one aimed at 'bigger busts' (should be 'perfectly normal bust' size, so it seems!) and then two from primark. These are both a 34G though as they seemed to come up smaller. For a fiver each though I'm not complaining wink Tbh I was surprised they had any. Went in La senza and there were hardly any styles in F/G cups hmm

I'll wait now and get a couple more in bravissimo next month, but thanks again married and statistically et al grin

ThingummyBob Tue 28-May-13 17:59:55

cjbk1 I'm no expert, but how on earth can they even give a size by taking only 1 measurement? Seems bonkers.

I'd be inclined to go with the MN advice if I were you which I was

Autumn12 Tue 28-May-13 19:32:00

I've come home and taken my uncomfortable new bra off to find deep red welts that are really sore! So I decided to measure myself and my measurements are 34 and then 38 around the nipple.

No wonder the 32D has been so uncomfortable! Is it possible to have gained those extra inches around the under chest area during pregnancy ( I've not ballooned or anything but my bump is big now) or did I somehow manage to measure myself completely wrong to begin with?

HazleNutt Tue 28-May-13 19:34:08

I went from 32 to 36 in matter of weeks quite early in my pregnancy, totally normal to have your rib cage expanding.

Autumn12 Tue 28-May-13 19:45:38

For some reason it never occurred to me. I thought only the actual boobs would expand. Well it will certainly be a lot easier finding 34C/D bras.

MyFabulousBoys Tue 28-May-13 19:53:38

Can you help me please?

33.5 around strap line. 40 at fullest part at 90 degree bend. Have been told I am 38B or 36C. Neither fits. My boobs are wide spaced and fullness def at sides so plunge with a space between the cups is definitely the best. Balcony never suits my shape. I prefer push up bras as I have full hips (fat bottom grin) and like to even up my shape.

Please help! I am down to one ill fitting bra!

HazleNutt Tue 28-May-13 19:55:25

I would try around 34E

sparkle12mar08 Tue 28-May-13 20:02:38

Your ribcage expands because the bump shoves all your other organs (stomach, lungs, etc) upwards to find space for itself. All your ligaments are looser too, and hence things go outwards. Pregnancy is a bugger sometimes! You could always try an extender though if your cup volume hasn't gone up yet - they're only about a pound or so in most places and could give you weeks more wear for very little cost. My local Waitrose has these on the haberdashery stand in store, for example.

Rib cage expansion = normal! I think it tends to be worse in women who are short as there is less space for the bump!

I only went up one back size in preg strangely (despite epic weight gain which is mostly still here!)

MyFabulousBoys Tue 28-May-13 20:07:53

Really? shock I've always thought I have smallish boobs! How exciting to be an E cup!!

Autumn12 Tue 28-May-13 22:11:58

Thanks for the help. I will go and buy some new bras tomorrow I think as im so fed up with being uncomfortable.

My cup volume expanded in the first trimester but has sort of tailed off now. I've still got 10 weeks to go though so they could grow again I suppose.

MrsKoala Wed 29-May-13 13:37:04

Can i jump in and ask a general boob question? How long does it take after stopping bfing for your boobs to return to 'normal' size?

<narrows eyes and wills everyone to say over 3 weeks>

They might well never be their pre pregnancy size I'm afraid

MrsKoala Wed 29-May-13 16:07:00

I was afraid you may say that. i started a thread in chat about it sad

Do you have any bra suggestions if you have one boob much bigger than the other?

Beamae Wed 29-May-13 16:16:26

I have decided to stop putting off the inevitable and need to buy a pregnancy bra. I'm 23 weeks now and bursting out of my old bras. My measurements are 34.5 inches under and 42.5 over. I'm thinking that is a 34FF? But I'm looking on John Lewis, M&S and Figleaves and that size doesn't seem to exist. Apologies if this has been covered before, but am I then looking to go up a band size and down a cup size, or down a band size and up a cup size? I really want to shop online but I'm finding even the lack of available sizes online quite difficult to negotiate!

Yup 34FF/G. Forget M&S their larger bras are rubbish. Figleaves and JL both do a 34FF, but for choice try debenhams, bravissimo, brastop, mycurvesandme, amazon...

Beamae Wed 29-May-13 20:05:11

Thanks. Will give it a whirl.

I've just posted the following on your thread too.

Fellow bra gurus Would a version of this be any good for the blog?

An update of something I posted before.

A few words about differing cup sizes and how to manage them

You do not always necessarily have to pad the smaller cup to balance the bra out. I'm about a cup and a half different and never use fillets. The trick is to choose styles that can disguise it. The hardest style tends to be soft, balconettes that slope rather than sit almost horizontally across the top of the cup IME, as they wrinkle and bag at the top where the strap joins.

To balance the smaller side, hoick the smaller breast diagonally towards the top and centre of the cup, as if trying to pull it towards a pendant on your necklace, whilst simultaneously pulling the bottom of the cup in the opposite direction. Try to push any excess fabric towards your body with your fingertips while you are holding your breast on your chin out of the way. In many cases, the material at the bottom of the cup will gather/pucker allowing the breast to sit on it when you let go, thus filling the top of the cup like the fuller side. The empty part of the cup is now at the bottom and so will not show once you are dressed.

Cleo Juna and many slightly padded half cup styles are often good for such disguise. They're also great for loss of volume post weight loss/breastfeeding. Pull the smaller breast forward as before, but in a more horizontal direction away from the armpit.

Tshirt styles that work include Freya Deco, Bravissimo Purity and the Panache Porcelain. These styles are not all so good at gathering under the cup because of the foam, but look fine once dressed.

Fuller cup styles are good, particularly Panache Andorra and Melody full cup. Fantasie side support styles such as Elodie, and non padded Cleo styles such as Meg and Marcie sit particularly well if you need a deeper cup.
Newer Panache styles that are performing spectacularly are the Jasmine and Idina, as they have some stretch lace on the upper part of the cup.

One I'd forgotten until recently is the Charnos Cherub full cup. It's light stretchy lace and the sizing's a bit off but it can perform miracles, even if your breasts are very soft! Go up a band and down two cups e.g. if you are a 32F try a 34DD.

Overall, aim to start off fitting the larger side as closely as possible without any overflow, then fine tune. Firmness in the band is essential to avoid slipping about within the cups..

Nearly every woman I fit has an obvious size difference but in 5 years, I can count on one hand how many times I've needed to suggest adding a filler of any kind.

definitely married-I will add it in the next day or two

SoulCakeDuck Thu 30-May-13 09:42:36

Hello, this is my first foray into the world of bra intervention. Have been living in very unsexy (probably unfitting) mothercare nursing bras for months but my DD is just coming up for 10 months and I would like to treat myself to some new fitting/flattering underwear.

Have taken my measurements as 31 under and 37 over bust, so does 30E sound like a good starting point? As most of it will be done online (live in the middle of nowhere) I would like to at least have a good first guess. Have been in 36C for as long as I can remember so quite a change I'm sure! I've seen brastop mentioned a few times, will probably have a look there.

Thank you.

SorrelForbes Thu 30-May-13 09:56:46

Great user name!

Try a 30E and a 30F and possibly a 32E. Happy shopping.

missnevermind Thu 30-May-13 10:06:19

I must recommend My Curves and Me.

After my disastrous outing to Marks the other week I spent ages online trying to find cheap 38H/HH.
I went through the sale section online and ordered 10 bras, blushexpecting to have to take them all back.
I found about 3/4 different styles most of the Panache I think.

The parcel arrived yesterday. Miles of lace and suspension bridge engineering.
I have tried 3 on so far all reduced to £7 each and loved them. Had one on for 5 hours with no discomfort at all. The other 2 for a couple of hours each as they are identical just different colours.

Something I didn't expect though, they really helped my back and my posture, made it so much easier to stand up straight.

I have the rest to try on this week and for a change I am looking forward to it rather than dreading it.

Thanks my Boobie Friends
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missnevermind Thu 30-May-13 10:08:14

I must recommend My Curves and Me.

After my disastrous outing to Marks the other week I spent ages online trying to find cheap 38H/HH.
I went through the sale section online and ordered 10 bras, blushexpecting to have to take them all back.
I found about 3/4 different styles most of the Panache I think.

The parcel arrived yesterday. Miles of lace and suspension bridge engineering.
I have tried 3 on so far all reduced to £7 each and loved them. Had one on for 5 hours with no discomfort at all. The other 2 for a couple of hours each as they are identical just different colours.

Something I didn't expect though, they really helped my back and my posture, made it so much easier to stand up straight.

I have the rest to try on this week and for a change I am looking forward to it rather than dreading it.

Thanks my Boobie Friends
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Gannetgob Thu 30-May-13 11:14:46

Hi all, I have just come across this topic, and I think I need your help.

I don't think I have ever worn the right size bra and just feel crap every time I go to be measured. In m&s they once tried to put me in a 42something or other which was completely ridiculous.

I'm 11 weeks pregnant and I am currently wearing a 36C. I haven't been measured since becoming pregnant, but I don't think they have changed all that much anyway.

I have done the measurements and I am just under 36 under bust and 42 when doing the sexy bending over measurement! This would suggest a 34/36E?

My problem is that I have rubbish boobs. I have no fullness at the top of my breasts. This makes it seem as though a C is too big because it can gape at the top of the cup if you get what I mean. I therefore can't see how an E would be any good for me!

I desperately want to be proved wrong and find a bra that is perfect! I'm hoping to go shopping this afternoon or tomorrow, so any advice on styles to go for would be fantastic!

Thanks :D

SorrelForbes Thu 30-May-13 11:29:28

Hmmm, I would start with a 34 band (make sure you try it on back to front first to gauge the fit without it being skewed by the cups).

Try some balconette styles in a 34FF, 34F and sizes around that. Make sure you scoop!

Gannetgob Thu 30-May-13 11:34:16

Thanks. I'll let you know how I get on! grin

SoulCakeDuck Thu 30-May-13 12:19:09

Great, thank you. Have had a look at My Curves and Me and have filled my shopping basket with some things to try. Does anyone have a discount code for them?

Also is there delivery quite quick? We are moving next Friday so not sure whether to have them delivered to there or a relatives house?

missnevermind Thu 30-May-13 12:30:20

I ordered Friday night and they came Wednesday morning. So that was a weekend and a Bank holiday in between. I would imagine that usually they would be quicker!

I'm currently really happy with my bra fitting, but I think you could help my SIL. She complains constantly about her bras, she's gained weight in recent years and I think she's still clinging onto ones which are much too small, she's definitely working the 4 boob look. She had a fitting in M&S but no joy, am hoping mn can help.

I've just asked her to do the measuring in the way suggested and she's apparently 39" under the bust (if tape measure is pulled tightish) and 52 if you do the bending over measurement (which was so funny trying to explain how to do by text!!!). She tried a 38DD and it wasn't right.

I've also noticed she seems to be either always pulling up or getting marks from her bra straps. Am hoping you can advise as she really complains about back pain and it might stop her whipping her bra off at mine nearly every evening! grin

OK - suggest she starts with a 38j/JJ and works from there.

Wow a J, I will let her know.

Don't think I've ever even seen a bra that size.

Thanks thanks

Gannetgob Thu 30-May-13 14:53:28

I bought a 34E. The F felt a bit big so the E was better and I'm really happy with it. grin

Thanks for your help. I'm going to tell everybody I know about this!

PenfoldRocks Thu 30-May-13 15:30:23

I have measured and gone from 32D to 30F - my problem is the underarm thing - in my old bras I had underarm boobage, but when I try bigger, the wire/strap seems to dig in under my arm and rub. Any ideas?

PinkMangoSays Thu 30-May-13 16:47:44

M and s were completely rubbish! They said that a Bra that I could pull out rally far was the right band size...

SorrelForbes Thu 30-May-13 16:52:31

M&S fitted me (a few months ago) as a 36/38 D. I'm a 30GG. Shocking.

That's great gannetgob - the cup measurememnt is always rougher, it gives you an idea of the area you should be in but can easily be a size or two either way from there.

Penfold - which bras have you tried? This can be a fit issue, it can be a "getting used to it" issue as it's a place the fabric won't have sat before, but it is also commonly a style issue.

PinkMangoSays Thu 30-May-13 17:24:32

They were so snooty and insistent they were right as well... In the end I gave up and walked out. I'm about to try boux avenue

The boux fitting service came in for some major flak on another bra blog...will try to find. It might have been invest in your chest

CamelBalls Thu 30-May-13 20:08:34

I need help!

I have a bra which clearly doesn't for bit I don't know how to find one that does blushes currently wearing a 34 GG and within 10 mins my boobs are spilling out of the top - let alone if I run!

I work with kids and need some decent supportive bra and sports bra I don't get back ache but I want my clothes to fit nicely! I have lost 1.5 stone since buying a bra and now I'm complety lost!

Any help would be greatly received and needed!!

OK, measure yourself as follows:

Bra off, standing up, measure under your bust very firmly.
Then - bend forward at the waist so your boobs are dangling down away from your body. Measure round the widest part - this shouldn't be a tight measure

Post em up here and we'll help

PinkMangoSays Thu 30-May-13 20:14:23

ok successfully got a bra from boux and instead of just measuring she checked the band straps and how the cups fit. I thought it was very good and much better than m&s and i've come out witha comfy bra!

MrsDesperado Thu 30-May-13 20:45:35

Delurking to mention to Baemae that I have two x 34G (one white one black) nursing bras and 2 x 34FF pregnancy bras (also one white one black) by Miriam Stoppard "Nurture" from Debenhams. I don't think I ever wore them (though 3 have been washed, one still has its label on it). They're yours if you want them?

Also wanted a bit of help. Am 31 under, 36 over, 32DD fits best BUT really struggling to find a suitable bra. The ones that fit tend to make me too pointy or if theyre not pointy there are baggy bits in the nipple area or on top of the cup if its a full cup bra. I have found near perfection with the Triumph Amourette 300 Underwired Bra however if I could make the straps adjustable all the way over (not just up to my back) and preferably have it in a smooth fabric (lace can be a bit bumpy) it would be perfect.

Does such a thing exits?

(Fwiw, I don't really usually get on with moulded bras, I don't like the indent you get between bra and boob where they join iykwim, however they are good at smoothing down my enormous large nipples. The Triumph amourette is great as it has a fabric bit that smooths over the moulded but, thus solving my problem)

SorrelForbes Thu 30-May-13 21:22:27

I like the Cleo Juna and married has introduced me to the Panache Idina. Both very simple but comfortable ad give great lift.

MrsDesperado Thu 30-May-13 21:44:48

Thanks Sorrell have ordered both, the Juna in particular looks great.

Figleaves have got 20% off at mo too so other suggestions are most welcome!

MrsKoala Thu 30-May-13 22:43:45

ooooh thanks marriednotdead.

I've just measured myself and i'm 37 under and 41 on top. What size does that make me?

MrsKoala Thu 30-May-13 22:52:34

Sorry, distracted by the magnificent 7 blush i meant to add:

I think i may try a 36 d. Does that sound right to you experts?

I do like balcony styles best as i have wide apart boobs, but after reading the one bigger boob bit, does that mean i should try a different style?

Thanks for all the help smile

try a dd too

Half cups/balcony styles sound ideal, remember to scoop horizontally towards the centre smile

MrsKoala Thu 30-May-13 23:01:11

okay will do. I still think i may need some extra padding on lefty tho. it's defo about 3 cup sizes difference. sad

Cross that bridge if you get to it.

MrsKoala Thu 30-May-13 23:04:16

Also there isn't enough boob on the left to 'cleavage' even if i scrape it and put a fillet underneath. Does that mean i have to have a fuller cup to cover it all?

Not necessarily. Something stretchy like an Idina balconette could be good but TBH, in the size range you're looking at, there are many cheaper high street or supermarket options worth a shot.

If you've got time, and a few shops, try on whatever you can find. The more straight across, the better.

That Triumph one MrsDesperado linked to might be worth a shot too.

MrsKoala Thu 30-May-13 23:24:29

oh well that's positive Married - the straight across ones are my fave smile (i feel not quite so shit about myself now)

MrsKoala Fri 31-May-13 07:52:14

Right - i haven't been up looking at bras all night really - but would i be way off the mark with a style like this? bra

I'm utterly clueless really, i've always hated my boobs and have been wearing a 40a for years. It's a joke in my family how you always find my bras dotted about the place because i get so uncomfortable i just take them off wherever i am blush

I think i also need wide underarm bands as i have a lot of back fat/boob seepage.

Only issue with that one MrsKoala - I've actually tried it in a different shape, and the fabric is a bit useless IMO. Give it a try anyway as it may be better in that cut, but the one I tried the fabric was just too darn soft and floppy to give enough support. It looks a good shape though

There are quite a few potentials in your size on brastop and in the outlet bit of leia. They're not cheap generally but you can sometime get very good deals on the Fauve hald cups which I have heard very good things about.

There are also some nice reduced balconettes over on mycurves and me
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MrsKoala Fri 31-May-13 08:43:07

oooooo i'm loving all of those, especially the juna. so if i order them should i order both a d and a dd then send some back? are you allowed to do that with bras?

Oh gosh yes, I am always ordering hoards of bras and sending them back. TBH, sometimes a quick try on in a shop isn't enough to tell if a bra is comfy so trying them on at home can be good as you can give it a bit longer to see if it works.

If you want wider backs for squish management then you'd be better in some of the Curvy Kate Showgirl range- Flerty is my personal favourite. Juna is not so wide, band wise and only ever has two hooks.

The Freya padded half cups are a much better fit than their non padded balconettes in the same range. The Lauren balconette is particularly crap on most people, although it can sometimes be rescued by going down a band and up a cup.

MrsKoala Fri 31-May-13 09:11:54

great thanks, i like that flerty one too.

so if i'm 37 back, and hate being uncomfortable, should i stick with a 36 or should i also order 38s?

Sorry to bombard you with questions. i have little time (emigrating in a month), can't drive (so no access to shops), and have an 8mo attached to me constantly. So i'm going to try to get a decent fitting bra via internet orders - which may not be entirely successful confused

The Curvy Kate Showgirls are, IMO, very stretchy so I would definitely go with a 36 in those. I haven't tried the Juna myself.

StrangeGlue Fri 31-May-13 09:37:22

Hello bra people, I'm hoping you can sort me out. Pre DD I wore at 32 A or B depending on the shop. I'm currently wearing a 34 or 36 B but one feels a bit tight and the other a bit loose.

I took my measurements and they were: under bust 33: fullest part bending at 90 degrees 39 and above bust 36. What size do you think I am?

Also, what style would you recommend? The weight of my boobs is to the size and bottom iykwim so even when they were huge when I was pregnant I didn't have much cleavage. I generally go for a plunge and never seem to be able to fill a balconette.


Start by trying a 32E/F and a 34E/DD

It sounds like something relatively plunging might still work for you but I would suggest trying a few styles once you have your size sorted as this will probably make things that didn't work before, work.

You're between band sizes so try 32 or 34 E and F. If plunges work for you then go for it.

Some of the Bravissimo own brand ones such as Satine and Dixie are really comfortable. Satine comes up a little small in the cup so don't be afraid to go past F if need be!

StrangeGlue Fri 31-May-13 10:25:21

E/F! What! Right, well if you say so I'm off bra shopping this weekend!

MrsKoala Fri 31-May-13 16:15:07

Oh bra ladies, Can i ask one more question - What are agent provocateur and myla like for bras? DH likes their stuff and up to now hasn't been able to buy me any bras to match the pants/corsets/waspies (because they don't do 40a's confused ). But now if i tell him i'm a 36d he will be able to.

So are they any good as actual bras, or are they just for decorating the bedroom floor? wink I'd like to get some wear out of them if so. If not are there any other sexy brands which are also practical?

Not tried them myself (way out of their sizing range!)

For good but still sexy - Fauve have some lovely things, there is a website called cocosa which does designer sales and quite often has agent provoc, myla, mimi holliday is another one. If 36D is the correct size you are going to have a wonderful choice available to you as most brands go up to at least a D, and all the D+ brands will cover it too.

MrsKoala Fri 31-May-13 16:30:07

Thanks Stat i'll have a look - I really hope i am that size, it will make up for 20 years of bra pugatory and ugly mismatching underpinnings.

I will pop into Debenhams next week and try some sizes on just to see if it's close or way off. If they generally fit i can start internet searching.

I'm so excited grin

I am soooo envy

DH bought me undies once, armed with a list detailing brand, style and size, and with his then teen DD with him cos he didn't want to look like a perv by shopping alone!

I have DH trained MND - the Bravissimo wish list feature and the Amazon wish list come in very handy!

Not that simple these days.

The only styles guaranteed to have any chance of both being comfortable and making my boobs look fab whilst not rubbing my armpit on my smaller side raw are the Freya Deco and Fantasie Nicola. Even my Elodie has to have a back extender on. And Deco slips off of my shoulders sometimes.

Every day I literally handle hundreds of bras and get comments like 'ooh, I bet you have dozens of bra styles'. I have two.

Ignorance was a lot easier!

You have my sympathies sad I seem to wear about 2 or 3 bras in rotation for comfort/awkward boob reasons too. A drawer full but many rarely worn

SorrelForbes Sat 01-Jun-13 01:05:05

Yep same here, living in my Junas, Idina and EMs at the moment.

CamelBalls Sat 01-Jun-13 20:12:51

Ok I followed statistically challenged advice
And under bust tightly I'm about 33
And on my boobs I'm 45 - surely that can't be right?!!!

Start by trying a 32HH, 32J, 34HH, 34H

CamelBalls Sat 01-Jun-13 20:57:22

Thank you!
Will go and try on bras - tomorrow am actually liking forward to it for once!

Out of curiosity - how mnay cup sizes are there?

Bravissimo goes up to a L I think but i cold see that being extended in future

CamelBalls Sat 01-Jun-13 21:21:03

Sorry for terrible spelling mistakes - watching a film at the same time!

larlemucker Sun 02-Jun-13 10:16:12


Just measured myself as 37 inches under bust and 45 inches over bust at 90 degrees. Currently wearing 42D, does this make me a 36 or 38 G???

Start by trying a 36FF, 36G, 38FF and 38F. Most likely one of the 36s

larlemucker Sun 02-Jun-13 10:26:26

Thank you

LexingtonBear Sun 02-Jun-13 21:44:11

Hello. Have heard great things about this thread! Am 34 in below bust and 40 at 90 degrees - any suggestions? Thanks so much!

Start with a 36E LexingtonBear

sparkle12mar08 Sun 02-Jun-13 22:05:24

Um, did you mean 34E Statistically?

Yes I did, thanks Sparkle! Thats what I get for typing whilst on painkillers lol!

sparkle12mar08 Sun 02-Jun-13 22:23:35

Oh no, hope you're okay?

Some horrible dentist removed two wisdom teeth the other day sad so me, mr paracetamol and mr ibuprofen are having a pity party!

sparkle12mar08 Sun 02-Jun-13 22:40:09

Bleeeeeee! The dentist is so not my favourite place to be. Got anything stonger? Stiff vodka, perhaps?!

Annoyingly not - I had codeine on the go but couldn't sleep a wink on Friday for manically scratching my nose...guess it didn't agree with me.

I'm dental phobic so it was done under sedation at the dental hospital - except the sedation wore off half way through angry and they only wound up taking out 2 instead of al 4 so I have to go back again...

NOT happy!

SorrelForbes Sun 02-Jun-13 23:18:02

Grim! I had two wisdom teeth out in the chair and two out under GA. I am a compete dental wimp despite having had major jaw surgery and braces!

Beamae Mon 03-Jun-13 14:51:53

Can I just check how to fit a soft cup maternity bra? I am trying some on from Debenhams and measured a 34FF, but was also recommended to try 34G. On both sizes I'm getting quite a hefty cleavage and the centre bit of the bra isn't flat against my breastbone. Should it be? Or is that only with underwire? I'm getting a proper cleavage line and the centre of the bra is hovering in between. Is that right? The 34FF is very comfy but I look like someone who is about to breastfeed a dozen babies!

HazleNutt Mon 03-Jun-13 15:15:14

You won't get the same fit and support with soft cups, no. Sure you even need one? I'm 37 weeks and have been wearing underwire without any problems.

Hi there
I have been through various sizes of non wire and wired bras over the past few years! After surgery I had to wear non wire and I agree with Hazlenutt, you never get the same fit and support with soft cups.
I am bit late coming in on this thread but I can't emphasise enough, a good professional fit is essential.
I though I had a fantastic fitting after implants but then went to Rigby and Peller, another league!! Ok so I had to spend some money but what a service! Do it, you wont regret it

After surgery non-wire is essential I agree - but otherwise I am just not a fan!

A good professional fit is ideal but unfortunately they're not actually that easy to get - so many places still doing it wrong.

MrsKoala Mon 03-Jun-13 16:34:36

Hi All - Me again! Hope you are feeling better Stat and your Hampsteads aren't giving you too much jip smile

Right - so i went to Debenhams and armed myself with lots of 36d bras. The plunge and t-shirt ones were awful. The balcony (or is it balconette? is there a difference?) styles fit best. The cups were fine - even my smaller boob sat right after a lot of hoiking. BBBUUUUUUT the back fat was awful. Some i could hardly breath in. I know i have got used to massive backs but I refuse to go out with such hideous back lumps. I looked like some old meat you'd see tied up in the butchers. I'd rather go bra-less than look so pudgy.

I am a little overweight (about 8lbs) and am a 14-16, but i'm 5ft 10, so not massively out of proportion. I admit i carry the pudge on my back and arms, so even when a size 12 i have back blubber.

Is this it? Nice boobs and fat back? or bad boobs and nice back? is that my choice forever <wails>

Did you try scooping the back fat like a demented possessed lady? This is normally the solution (have a look at the blog for proof!)

Don't get me wrong, I still have a little back fat but it's worse in a too big bra.

Oh..hang on...Debenhams...were the bad ones from the "gorgeous" range by any chance?

MrsKoala Mon 03-Jun-13 17:01:09

i did scoop, but the majority of the fat is right round the back so i can't scoop that far! Not sure on the ranges, i picked them up up all over the place. the tightest one was a Freya tho, i couldn't breath in it sad

OK, try going up to a 38, but I would also suggest trying a 36DD. Quite often when you aren't able to scoop more in it's because you've run out of cup room. It also makes the back fat worse - if the cup is a little neat (and it's not always immediately obvious) then it borrows fabric from the back making it feel tighter than it is.

MrsKoala Mon 03-Jun-13 17:16:12

if i go up to a 38 should i go down to a c? The d cups were still quite roomy even with all the scraping. I just can't see how it is possible to get fat from right round my back into my bra cup confused

What is the blog you mentioned? maybe i'm not doing it right.

Observe the scary backfat here

Scooping - the way I do it is:

Put the bra on by slipping my arms through the straps, leaning forward, dropping breasts in to the cups and then fastening at the back. Then:
Lean right forward. Take right hand, put it inside left cup and reach round as far as you can. Quite forcefully grab all soft tissue/fat that is hanging around both below and above the strap and drag it forward in to the cups. I do this standing side on to a mirror as it makes sure I get it all. Do the same with the other cup. You might need to do it again (as doing the second side dislodges the first a little) just to get any that slips back out.

MrsKoala Mon 03-Jun-13 17:34:51

Yes that's the way i scoop. i have looked at the backfat pics - wow. But my fat was between the straps too. The bras i wear atm are more like crop tops which fasten. so i think the wideness of the band holds it all in.


That is going to feel quite different. What about a longline bra? Would that help possibly? for example

Something to bare in mind is that most bras stretch quite a bit when new. However, it might be worth considering something like the curvy kate Showgirls (particularly tease me, thrill me, entice and fleurty) which are available at brastop. They have particularly soft stretchy backs and are balconettes so may suit you

MrsKoala Mon 03-Jun-13 17:48:50

I know sad i love feeling as tho i'm not even wearing a bra. But now i've stopped bfing and want to wear nicer clothes the front is far too high for all my tops.

I think i'm destined to be uncomfortable forever sad

I'll have a look at those you recommended, thanks for your patience.

The switch is going to feel very odd and take a while to get used to. We have had quite a few ladies who have gone through an intermediate size as the change from old size to new was too much for them to do in one go. If you think they might well be right in future then the other thing to consider is getting an extender (couple of pounds on ebay) to wear while the bras loosen off and you get used to it

MrsKoala Mon 03-Jun-13 17:58:02

thanks, yes i have loads of them and i wear them on my 38 & 40s blush . i'm such a baby, i can't do wearing shoes in either!

missnevermind Mon 03-Jun-13 21:50:23

StatisticallyChallenged I think I love you. grin

Bra extenders! I have new bras and they are comfortable.

MyFabulousBoys Tue 04-Jun-13 07:54:59

I didn't believe you at first - sorry sad. 34E dies fit not the 38B I was told by m&s. however, an E cup in m&s means a granny bra. shock

I want a nude plunge push-up. Not hugely expensive please. My boobs are very wide-set and balcony a never fit

Can anyone suggest a bra please?

MyFabulousBoys Tue 04-Jun-13 08:09:55

Sorry for my garbled message. Was posting and making breakfast for kids. I am 34E as you all said. I am not 38B as m&s said.

M&S bras really aren't great for larger cups TBH.

are you after a T-shirt/smooth bra? If so, you could try the Freya Deco, the Wonderbra t-shirt bra (also called Wonderbra everyday), the Curvy Kate smoothie, Fantasie Rebecca or the Curvy Kate Daily Boost.

Not a smooth cup and more of an ivory but the Bravissimo Satine is a lovely bra.

These are a little more than an M&S bra - I think the Satine is £29 for example and only available from Bravissimo, but the others are sold in lots of places so you might be able to get them a little cheaper. Figleaves has 20% off everything just now which makes the Deco £24 for eg. so not much in it and there is a huge difference in quality

HazleNutt Tue 04-Jun-13 08:22:37

Gurus, are any of you also on the Reddit ABraThatFits?

The measuring system is more complicated, but the idea is the same. Thousands of women discovering there as well that they are, in fact, not 36AA like Victoria's Secret told them.

HazleNutt Tue 04-Jun-13 08:28:06

Oh and an interesting link here, if it has not been posted yet:

To counter all those "but that cup is huuuuge! I can't possibly be that cup!"

I'm over there occasionally - from what I have seen the multiple measurements doesn't seem to get them much closer and confuses people a wee bit but I could be wrong. I think the basic idea is the same though. I feel so sorry for the women on it trying to find big cup sizes in the US.

If you ever need to sell bras then the reddit braswap site pretty much chews your hand off

pinkbear82 Tue 04-Jun-13 10:59:03

I'm hoping you lovely Wise ladies can help me out.

I'm looking to get some nursing bras that look ok - I'm due tomorrow (yikes) and have measured today.
35 inches under and 43 over the boobs when leaning forward.

can I use the size to buy some nice bras for now? beforw pregnancy I was wearing 36c/d current maternity bras are 38Dd.

I have some nursing bras of the stretchy variety, kinda one fits all iyswim - but would like a couple that actually look nice! esp with it being summer(!)

I await your amazing knowledge

You could order some bras now but it depends hugely on how your boobs behave once your milk comes in. Some people don't grow all that much, some (me!) expand massively and have boobs like footballs grin

If you don't mind a bit of cash outlay (or using a credit card) I would be tempted to order some in a variety of sizes so they are ready and waiting. As long as you order from somewhere with a decent returns policy you can then send em back once you know how things land. Alternatively you can get next day delivery from most places so you could just do an order once milk comes in.

Now, first up. You were probably never a 36c/d. The ribcage expands towards the end of pregnancy as everything gets shoved up to make space for bump. If you are measuring at 35" now - chances are you were more like 32" pre pregnancy. Fitted at M&S by any chance?

Your current measurements would put you at a 34G/34FF/36FF/36F. Because of the rib issue I wouldn't be too inclined towards the 36s as you will loose rib size very quickly (it's not like losing pregnancy weight, it's just plain old baby!) If you were going to order anything just now I'd maybe order a 34G, GG and possibly an H in a soft cup maternity bra as they are stretchy and flexible and hopefully one of them will work to tide you over until your boobs settle down to whatever their breast feeding size actually is. Lots of people like the Panache Sophie and it's not monstrously ugly either!

Once things calm down you might want to consider an underwired maternity bra - the anita has a good reputation. Watch the sizing - they don't make a DD or a FF according to that list. Normally UK sizes go A,B,C,D,DD,E,F,FF,G,GG, a 9" difference would give you a UK size of roughly a G. In a brand which doesn't do double letters it would make you an I or J (most UK don't do I but Anita do)

It is perfectly safe to wear underwires when breast feeding so long as you ensure they fit well - the danger comes from wearing a wire which is too small and therefore sits on the breast tissue and can cause blockages. Have a look at the fitting info on so you know what a good underwired bra should look like. Most of the guidance is true for non-wired too but you won't get the central gore to sit flush on a non wired

pinkbear82 Tue 04-Jun-13 11:53:44

Wow - thank you! I knew you would have the information I needed. thanks

I shall have a look around online and see what I can find - with the comfy/stretchy ones I have atm they should tide me over for trying on and sending back new ones.

Finally feel a bit excited about bras again smile tuvm

BTW - the images of that Anita bra are awful and are a demonstration of how a bra shouldn't fit!

Throw your old 36s away though - unless you have shrunk during pregnancy they were never right!

There's a fairly new nursing style out by Royce called Blossom
I've tried it myself for research purposes and it's really impressive. It covers a triple cup size.

Ruched down it fits it's smallest size so as a 32G I tried 32G-H. Loosening the ruching turns it into a very spacious crop top and it seems to hold its shape well.

That looks good especially for those early stages when your boob size is all over the place.

If I ever wind up BF-ing then I would probably be tempted by one like that for the "what are these boulders" stage and while things calmed down and I waited for my custom order wired ones from Ewa!

pinkbear82 Tue 04-Jun-13 14:37:36

Ladies I really can't thank you enough thanksthanks

HazleNutt Tue 04-Jun-13 14:43:01

Oh thanks, I like the look of that Royce bra for early days (almost due with DC1 and no idea what those already G-cups will do).

HazleNutt Tue 04-Jun-13 14:44:36

..and I live in France so need to order in advance. The biggest nursing bra I've seen in shops here is a D, and that of course starting from 38 back size. hmm

You could tie it in a bow Hazle ;)

Right I've just ordered a couple of bras on bravissimo at 30e and 30dd and will report back from how I get on....currently in a saggy 34d nursing bra!

Picoo Tue 04-Jun-13 21:18:46

I am 32 under boobs and 41 over boobs. I tried on some Triumph bras with 32 band but found them very tight. should I assume they'll become more comfy over time or try another brand?

What cup size did you try in the Triumph?

HazleNutt Tue 04-Jun-13 21:21:39

Picoo, what cup size did you try? If the cup is too small, band will feel too tight, even if it's otherwise your size.

MrsKoala Tue 04-Jun-13 21:45:15

Hi all. I tried a 38 and it was all wrong, the wires really dug in the side of my boobs and the cups were massive - even in a b cup sad

So i've made an app for a fitting at Rigby and Peller next week. i think i need professional eyes on the problem norks to have any hope of rescuing them.

Thank you all for your wise words smile

Picoo Tue 04-Jun-13 21:46:14

I tried a 32G

I'm going to guess you do need the 36 then MrsK but worth getting pro eyes. The gups feeling too big even in a B could be because the lack of back support lets it tip forward.

Picoo - the 32G would be about right. It could be that it feels odd because of the change, it could be that the triumphs run a little small in the back or it could be that you need a little more cup space (the cup measurement is rough)

I'd maybe try a few different brands

MrsKoala Tue 04-Jun-13 21:53:31

yes i think so Stat, and also oddly the cups felt far too close together, with gaping in the middle but breast tissue bulging with wire digging in at the sides/armpits.

Picoo Tue 04-Jun-13 21:54:31

thanks very much SG. I will do that and report back

MrsKoala Tue 04-Jun-13 21:56:06

oh and the underwire wasn't stretched round under the arm, but still sitting at the front of my chest - if that makes sense confused

I suspect it's just going to be a huge change that will feel weird MrsK - hopefully a second pair of eyes will give you the confidence that the smaller back is right for you..

(posted that before I saw your last post - if the back isn't small enough it wont hold the wires in the right place)

MrsKoala Tue 04-Jun-13 22:01:31

i know you are right SC but i just feel such an uncomfortable lumpy blob in the 36s sad i will need to diet i think.

<Un MN Hugs> just remember the far better range of lush undies you'll have


Don't give up just yet!

There's a new range in Bravissimo called Tutti Rouge. They've only got a couple of styles out so far, but they are very wide of wire and shallow of cup which should work better for you.

Alternatively, their Mademoiselle and Roccoco Charm are quite wide set too.

YoniBottsBumgina Mon 10-Jun-13 10:57:23

Hello, it's me again from one of the other threads (ciuldnt work out which was most current)

I'm having a bit of trouble. Finally got around to actuallyttrying on a bra and none of them fit sad

Originally measured 28/31, so went looking for a 28C. M&S apparently have them in their teen range so went there. Couldn't find the teen range and was too embarrassed to ask so started looking on the shelf to find no 28s at all (I'm sure they always used to sell them) and in the end decided to try a 30B and 30C.

Well, the 30B would barely do up and on the loosest hook I was afraid to breathe because I could feel the material overstretchijg IYSWIM. Tried the 30C and that was better - it still felt very tight and I felt very "aware" of my breathing. When u turned it forwards the straps were very tight and my back/ribs were uncomfortable wearing it. Plus the cups seemed slightly too big even with scooping and it just didn't seem to give me much shape at all compared with my H&M 34B. Which to be fair is a push up.

So tried a 32 just to see what the band size was like and this was more comfy but it seemed to stretch too easily when I breathed and so I think the 30 probably fitted better but only with the C cup. The 32 only came in a C and that was just laughable - think marbles in a tea cup!

I got frustrated then and went to buy a proper tape measure. My measurements are 27.5-28 (apparently I breathe weirdly) and 32. There's no way I will fit into a 28 if I couldn't do the 30 up. I have no padding at all though. So should I try other brands in a 30B? I was looking in other shops and they all seem to start at 32!

m and s sizing is inconsistent verging into useless so I would not set much store by them. based on your new measurements you would be better with a 28d I think. I would suggest ordering a few different ones online maybe some curvy Kate showgirl from brastop

Could I ask for some help please?

Had a baby 9 weeks ago, body currently shrinking, but not as fast as I like! Always had a small back/full bust, usually a 32G pre pregnancy.

Prefer a fuller cup, plain
bras because I spend most of my time in T shirts. Don't like flounce or frills, like to be very well supported cos they're wobbly! confused

Underbust 33 inches, around boobs 43 inches. So 34 GG/H right? I'm a single Mum and still getting my hang around baby stuff (as in how to look after one!) so any pointers would be greatly appreciated. At the moment I'm spending lots of time browsing Bravissimo and Figleaves but not getting anywhere!

Hoping they'll shrink over the next few months, so don't want to spend loads. Usually go with Fantasie, but can't find anything I like at the moment.

Thank you in advance. thanks

Not nursing bras. Thanks! smile

try a 32gg 32h 34gg and 34g. yiu will probably find the 32 better for lift and support.

YoniBottsBumgina Mon 10-Jun-13 15:38:45

I'm very reluctant to order online as I have a memory like a sieve and would almost definitely not get around to returning stuff in time for a refund if it didn't fit. We have no othe bra shops here though other than bravissimo (don't cater for flat chested people like me), Ann summers (yuk, and they start at 32) and places liketopshop, h&m, who have them as an afterthought.

Could potentially travel to a john lewis or debenhams, but it won't be for a while.

MrsKoala Mon 10-Jun-13 18:33:53

Thanks Marriednotdead - i'll give them a try too...but...

Today i got fitted at Rigby and Peller and am now the proud owner of the next best thing to having new boobs - 5 bras (4 36d and 1 36dd) which actually fit me! Hurrah! I feel great. I then bought 8 new tops/t-shirts to go with the 'good as new' knockers.

I wore one bra out of the shop, so i could shop with my new silhouette. And DH noticed a difference as soon as i walked thru the front door (and it wasn't just my beaming smile wink )

I do still need to diet tho, the back fat is horrid. But all in all very successful - so thanks for all your lovely help.

I must be very odd shaped as loads of bras didn't fit - i must have tried on over 50 in various shops and only 5 fit. The 2 styles which fit from R&P are Marie Jo.

sparkle12mar08 Mon 10-Jun-13 18:44:49

You're not odd at all MrsKoala - my bra enlightenment cost me around £800, 40+ bras of which a grand total of 6 fitted properly! I did return all the others - I don't have £800 worth of bras hanging around...

I'm glad you managed to get sorted MrsKoala. Do you have any idea from that what sort of shape your boobs are - might help you find alternatives.

MissRenataFlitworth Mon 10-Jun-13 22:33:26

I've been looking at the bra threads for weeks trying to pluck up the courage to ask, so here goes. I'm 66 and have never worn an underwired bra in my life but it seems that underwires are what I need. I'm 42 under and 57 over. All my bras are too big in the band (44s and 46s) and the biggest cups I could find but they ride up at the back. Is there anything which would fit me properly? Money is an issue I'm afraid but I don't care what the scaffolding looks like as long as it is comfortable and gives support. And perhaps helps with the backache?

MrsKoala Mon 10-Jun-13 22:51:28

Sadly no SC, i have no idea what 'shape' i am. I seem to have a lot of boob 'up top' and the bras seem to cut across me, but they seem to be empty and cave in below the boob. If that makes sense. They seem to be shallow and wide, rather than ever teardrop, or make a 'handful'. Even my bras which 'fit', don't really fit , there are still gaps in the cup underneath and above the nipple (i have a kind of ski jump/arrow shape boob) and parts across the top where the cup creates a dent into my breast tissue.

Based solely on the measurements you would be looking at around a 42J. However it's extremely common for larger ladies to actually need a band size or two smaller than they measure in order to get enough support. This is for a couple of reasons - if your torso is squishy (mine is!) then the back needs to be tighter to get a firm enough grip to lift. Also, the longer length of the band means it can stretch more (in absolute terms)

So, you could probably also want to try say a 40JJ/K and maybe a 38KK/L too

Now - you can guess the punchline is that once you are in to K/Ls the sizes become harder to come by so here are a few of the options

For the 38L (and any cup sizes below)
Bravissimo Alana

40K (and everything below]]
bravissimo have lots
brastop have a few


Your measurements put you at around a 42K, although you may find that you need a tighter band.

Not the easiest size to find, and there are many brands that skip cup sizes so that they are smaller than their tag suggests.

Wires are helpful but not for everyone. I'd suggest starting with an Elomi Caitlyn in a 42K and seeing how that works.

MissRenataFlitworth Mon 10-Jun-13 23:47:04

A 38! Goodness me. Thank you. The Alana looks lovely - far prettier than I was expecting. There is a Bravissimo in my city so I think I shall have to go. I've never been fitted before - too ashamed.

The lovely women who did my mammogram and ultrasound a few years ago were horrified for me and said I should ask for a reduction but I don't think I'd get one without losing a lot of weight first, and I can't exercise because my back hurts all the time. Sorry - whingeing won't help. But it does make one feel miserable.

If you have a bravissimo it is definitely worth a look. They only have up to 40s on the website (not sure if it is the same in store) but they will be able to try a pretty good range and if you turn out to need the full 42 (rather than a smaller back) then at least you will know that.

It does become a bit trickier by measurements at larger sizes - there is another lady on these threads who has had huge back/pain issues as a result of bad bras. She "measures" as a 40 back but actually wears a 36 and it's made a huge difference to her. I think her measurements are not that far away from yours.

MissRenataFlitworth Tue 11-Jun-13 00:05:11

Sorry, married, I hadn't seen your advice. Thank you. Do you mean the wired Caitlyn or the soft cup one?

Sorry, the wired one. The soft cup doesn't go up as far cupsize wise.

If you go to Bravissimo, make an appointment and ask for an experienced fitter. Perhaps you could get the Elomi bra online and take it with you? They should be happy to advise you if it could fit better (i.e. suggest a better size based on how they see it fitting you) if they cannot offer you something better.

I fitted a lady very similar to you recently. A Royce Sadie soft cup bra was not perfect but certainly a vast improvement on what she had. I'm pretty sure that we also thought that the Triumph Doreen in the right band size and biggest available cup was also worth a shot as she was squashed into a far smaller cup size in it already.

DrinkFeckArseGirls Tue 11-Jun-13 11:17:23

Hmmm, I got some bras from Winderbra and one spirts bra in size 30F and they were too small, there was no way I could do either of them up. I also got 30FF Wonder bra and it kind of fits but I think the cups are too small? confusedthey cut in at the top, nect to mu underarms. maybe it's the way it's made. Tbh I don't think U chose the best style of bra for the first sussing out the size. They were sll strapless (apart ffom the sports one of course) and had this plasticky glue thing inside the band to keep it better on place without the straps, so they weren't as stretchy as the normal ones would.

I'm yet to try other styles in my new smile size. Returned 3 out of 4 bras to Debenhsms today and run off as the sales assistant wanted to measure me!

MissRenataFlitworth Tue 11-Jun-13 15:49:54

Ah, the dear old Doreen. I used to like the cotton one but they don't go big enough in the cup, and the nylon one gives a very odd pointy shape, like the old circle-stitched type used to, and the lace shows through one's clothes. It's bad enough having a huge bosom without it being bobbly as well!
I'm wearing a new-ish 44G from M & S and on the tightest hooks I can pull it so far away from me at the front that I fall out underneath, and all the weight is on my shoulders. I shall try the Elomi if I can find one in a 42k. The shape looks good and it has a smooth finish. I'm determined to try an underwire. Thank you again for your advice.

sudointellectual Tue 11-Jun-13 18:15:31

Hi, I'm shopping right now for new bras as I'm getting painful armpit boob. Have measured as per thread and I come up as 32F (am wearing 34B!). From what I'm reading I have wide set, shallow, bottom heavy boobs and I always prefer balconette styles anyway. I am 5'10, 10/12 muscular frame if that's useful.

I want plain black and plain nude in a padded material (embarrassingly aggressive nipples). I don't want a lot of frill, I really just like plain things in nice materials, though I don't want to spend much more than £50 per bra tbh.

(I'm on figleaves etc but I'm lost - I have bought 2 multipacks from M&S once a year my whole life and never even looked at all this other stuff. I can't really believe I've got to 30 without learning all this! Can someone tell me what to buy?)

SorrelForbes Tue 11-Jun-13 18:53:03

Sorry, only just noticed your post. You might have given up by now (hopefully not) but if you're still shopping then you could look for my favourite, the Cleo Juna. It is a lightly padded balconnette and comes in black and nude.

Balconettes are actually good for your shape of boobs in general I think. What about


Although these aren't hugely plain you might get on well with some of the bravissimo half cups here

sudointellectual Tue 11-Jun-13 19:13:40

Oh thank you! I've ordered those. I really appreciate your help.

DrinkFeckArseGirls Tue 11-Jun-13 19:34:50

Helloooo! What about my last post!!!!


OK, the 30F wonderbra didn't do up but the 30FF did but seemed too small in cups? the 30F didn't do up because of lack of cup space, try the 30G smile

DrinkFeckArseGirls Tue 11-Jun-13 20:43:19

But was it because of the way it was made and that it was a strapless? Even that was difficult to do up, I only succeeded with a lot of huffing and puffing. Imm wavering to get a bigger band...blush

If you can, try to sort out your size in normal bras first. Strapless can be kind of odd at the best of times.

Which Wonderbra was it? If it's the Ultimate Strapless IME it runs big in the back so if it is tight in a 30 then I would try a 32 in others. However, others don't run the same way. However the too small cups could be the problem too - try doing it up back to front as that will help you figire out if the cups were distorting things.

larlemucker Tue 11-Jun-13 23:33:35

So today I have bought a 36G, I was previously wearing a 42D!!shock

Can't believe the difference, DH said my boobs look much better so that's a good start!! And I actually felt like I have some support!! Hurrah!!!

Thank you bra interventionists!! gringrin

babyiwantabump Thu 20-Jun-13 22:46:11

Hi all!

I need help!
Just measured myself at just under 33inches beneath the bust and 42 inches when bent over like in the diagram .

I'm just coming up to 16 weeks pregnant and my boobs have suddenly grown !

I normally wear a 32dd but am spilling over the top now - what should I try?

Thanks in advance

sparkle12mar08 Thu 20-Jun-13 23:03:20

32GG to start with, and try H and HH too, possibly with am extended to eke out as much life as possible.

babyiwantabump Fri 21-Jun-13 08:16:50

But where can I get pretty bras in that size? I struggle to get a 32 DD as it is!

sparkle12mar08 Fri 21-Jun-13 09:09:00 - has frequent flash sales, often weekly, I think their customer service is brilliant and it's free returns, - bit pricier but they do have some gorgeous stuff once you know your size. Be aware that you need to call them within 7 days to get your delivery refunded if you're going to return a whole order, you still have 30 days then to get it to them. If you don't call you won't get the delivery back.

There's also mycurvesandme website and leila? lelia? something. Also, don't be afriad of ebay either, there's some lovely stuff that comes up there often for fractions of what you'd pay in store. Honestly, if definitely doable to find pretty and sexy stuff in that size, I'm a 30H/HH and I've revamped my bra drawer completely with the help of brastop and ebay!

Meganhunt Sat 22-Jun-13 20:40:03

Realise I am a little late on this thread but if anyone is still here please help!! Was measured a while ago at a local department store as a 36c but the back keeps riding up and straps falling down. Followed the instructions on the website with the picture of the lady bending over (!) and I am a30.5 under and 36 around the boobs. What sizes should I look at trying? Tia.

sparkle12mar08 Sat 22-Jun-13 21:05:13

No wonder it doesn't fit, it's three back sizes too big!!! Try 30E, 30F, and 28F and 28FF

Meganhunt Sat 22-Jun-13 21:11:05

Great, thank you. I didn't bother looking at this thread before because I'd been measured somewhere - feeling silly now!!

devonsmummy Sat 22-Jun-13 21:19:07

Saw this thread a while back but only just measured myself
Under boob measurement 34"
Leaning measurement 40"
I've been wearing a 38d but guessing that's not right
What should I be ????

SorrelForbes Sat 22-Jun-13 21:33:49

Id say try a 34E, however the cup volume will be the same as your 38Ds. If you scoop do you get overspill/bulging? If so then try a 34F and FF too.

devonsmummy Sat 22-Jun-13 21:44:34

What do you mean by scoop? confused
I picked up new 38d's today a d they are really uncomfortable , feel like tie straps are too right on my holders even let out as far as poss.
I also have a noticeable size difference in left to right confused

coolkat Sat 22-Jun-13 21:51:01

Hi ladies stumbled across this and a blog and went to be fitted in John Lewis today. Was ok. Had better fittings. Have been wearing Freya and fantasie 34e but noticed not quite right under the arm/ where boob comes around. Tried lots on and settled on a fantasie Rebecca in 32ff. Have been working out so could have lost weight here. Was Hoping my cup size might shrink but no!

Just want to say thanks for highlighting the going down a back size now to source some lovely new fitting bras!

Tis pretty common to lose underbust but not overbust so it seems! Fantasie quite often run generous in the cups (as to Freya) so if you are ordering other bras like panache to try online you might want to try a cup size up

Devonsmummy - have a look at - there is a post there which explains how to manage asymmetry. IN terms of the scoop - put your bra on by leaning forward and pouring yourself in to the cups. Then once it is on, stand side on to a mirror, lean forward and put your right hand round inside your left cup. All the loose skin, flesh, flab, overhung, lumps and bumps and whatever else you want to call it around the back of the bra, straps and armpits needs it's ass hauled in to the cups. Repeat on the other side grin

Oh and the straps are hurting on the 38Ds because they are taking far too much of the weight. About 70% of the support should come from the back of the bra but if it is too loose then it transfers to the straps making them hurt like hell

amicusapple Sun 23-Jun-13 18:22:28

Can someone tell me where to start please? 36 under and 43 over. Trying to find a strapless today which was just horrendous! Any recommendations?

I've been wearing 38d but have lost some weight since getting measured.

Fed up getting into a flustered stressed out mess trying to buy bra's!

Thanks in advance smile

Start by trying a 36F, and try the Wonderbra Ultimate Strapless or Freya Deco (might need a size tweak from non-strapless as they fit a bit different)

amicusapple Sun 23-Jun-13 18:31:37

Really? Tried the wonder bra 38d today which felt really tight. Is that because of trying too small a cup?


Most likely yes - the Wonderbra can also run on the small side back wise so you might actually want a 38 in it, but you'd probably need to go up a couple of cups. Try it in a 36F and 38E. If the cup is too small it steals the back fabric.

You also need to scoop like a crazy lady with the Wonderbra - on me at least it doesn't just land in the right place, it needs some persuading and positioning and scooping to get it sitting properly. But once it's there it doesn't shift!

ButWhhhyyyMummy Sun 23-Jun-13 18:53:37

please help!!

I measured a 36.5 under my bust and a 43 at the fullest bent over.

Howerver I'm now at a loss, can I really be measuring that right?

I normally wear a 38 b/c however I know this is the wrong size.


As with the prev poster, start by trying a 36F and make sure you scoop - read the info here on the fitting setcion about putting on a bra and testing the fit

amicusapple Sun 23-Jun-13 19:10:30

Stats- if this works I may well kiss you!

Will report back!

devonsmummy Mon 24-Jun-13 09:48:38

Just bought a 34E.....
I have boobs!!!!!!

devonsmummy Mon 24-Jun-13 09:48:55

Thanks smile

More happy boobies devonsmumy, yey!

amicusapple Mon 24-Jun-13 18:20:51

36F for me. Not quite perfect yet but at least I don't feel like Quasimodo!

I can finally wear strapless tops on my holiday next week!

Thanks Stats X

It can take a LOT of trial and error to get the perfect bras, even once you know your rough size. I order and send back loads on a regular basis smile

StiffGandT Mon 24-Jun-13 20:55:11

So, I'm at 29 and 36 which would make me a 28/30 G/E - does that sound right? I'm a bit skeptical as I don't consider myself to be particularly well endowed and feel I'm actually too small for the 32DD M&S gave me. Help!

29/36 would be around a 28F/FF or a 30E/F (there's doubles catching you out)

Now - lets talk about that 32DD. It's designed for someone who measures 32 under and 37 over. It will have roughly the same cup volume as the 30E and the 28F (just the way bras work, D's are not the same on every band size).However the fit will be different, the cups will be held more upright rather than falling forward etc.

StiffGandT Mon 24-Jun-13 21:05:46

Thanks Stats - it's all very confusing! Armed with this knowledge I will try and find a comfortable bra smile

The most important thing is knowing how to put the bra on properly. I know that sounds stupid but it really is

Lean forward, drop your breasts in to the cups and do the bra up at the back. Now, take your right hand, put it round inside the left cup, all the way round under your armpit, and scoop all the soft tissue and flesh in to the cup. You might not know it, but all that soft tissue under your armpit and round your back and straps is breast, and it needs to be in the cup. You might need to be pretty firm here! Now, repeat on the other side. The wire should totally encase your soft breast tissue, and you should have no overspill or wrinkling in the cups. The central gore should sit flat in between your boobs.

Lozislovely Mon 24-Jun-13 21:32:36

Ooh help - I'm 'hurting' in an M&S measured 38b

34 under boob and 41.5 maybe 42 at 90 degree 'swing low' angle wink

No wonder you're hurting- try a 34F/FF

Lozislovely Mon 24-Jun-13 21:36:45

Bloody hell Stats, never thought of myself as a 'FF' (sniggers at thought of actually having boobage) but going to try it, thank you grin

Have a look at this page - women in properly fitting bras. Quite informative!

StiffGandT Tue 25-Jun-13 19:42:03

Ok, this could be a really silly question but.....does your rib cage expand during the day? My bra band always seems to be uncomfortably tight in the evening but fine during the day.

devonsmummy Tue 25-Jun-13 19:49:52

Stiffg&t - my newly bought bra was super comfy until around 4pm today.... I wonder?

StiffGandT Tue 25-Jun-13 19:56:12

Strange isn't it! Off to put my comfy PJs on smile

I think mine does a bit, but if yours expands a lot then some bras tend to stretch more or be softer at the back so might suit you better. The Curvy kate showgirls and smoothie spring to mind, as do my Ewas

StiffGandT Tue 25-Jun-13 20:01:43

Thanks Stats - will check out your suggestions.

leobeebs Tue 25-Jun-13 21:08:20

Me again. Got measured and fitted in John Lewis and I am still a 32gg. I was just wearing the wrong the style.

I read unthread about sports bras. What size would I need to get?

Depends which one, but I have/had shock absorber and freya and in both cases, up a back and down a cup (so 34G) worked for me

sparkle12mar08 Tue 25-Jun-13 21:32:03

I have a Panache and find it true to size

And same band but up a cup in the Bravissimo Inspire.

Meganhunt Tue 25-Jun-13 21:56:59

@ Sparkle, went shopping today. Rigby and Peller measured me by sight and said 30E as you suggested. All the 30E's fitted perfectly and got one but will be back for more when I get paid. Thank you!!

sparkle12mar08 Wed 26-Jun-13 07:07:12

Yay! It opens up a whole new world doesn't it - my card took a right battering when I first started looking at my proper size!

Can someone remind me what debenhams gorgeous fit like. I vaguesly remember someone saying to go up/down a bandsize.

I am looking for a strapless/multiway in 32DD/E ish. Any guidance on what their sizing is like would be gratefully recieved.

sparkle12mar08 Wed 26-Jun-13 10:58:32

They're quite tight on the back so if you're in the middle of two sizes definitely go up on the band, and correspondingly down on the cup if necessary. I measure 31.5 and 42, and generally wear a 30H everywhere else but I nearly always need a 32 in Debs bras. Just try a load in the relevant sizes and send the rest back.

lookout Wed 26-Jun-13 11:03:41

I've finally got used to my band size but have lost a stone since I last measured and the cups are so flappy now. If I was a 34FF, what cup size should I try now? Do I need to remeasure?

sparkle12mar08 Wed 26-Jun-13 11:04:55

Remeasure both band and dangling and let us know!


Tbf debenhams did measure me as a 34C (not gorgeous range though). I feel that they are too loose. I am goig in store so will try a variety. Just helpful to know the starting point

sparkle12mar08 Wed 26-Jun-13 11:07:44

Are you sure about the 34 underbust? Debs usually do the outdated +4 technique. Measure yourself underbust pulled tight and over bust on the dangle before you go, and let us know what they are.

ComfortablyDumb Wed 26-Jun-13 11:43:51

Can I join too please? I definitely haven't been wearing the right bra since having the dc, over 3 years ago blush

I've just measured as 37/45 Prior to dc wore a 36A/B. Although who knows if that was right either (and am now hugely a wee bit more tubby than I was then too)

sparkle12mar08 Wed 26-Jun-13 12:34:11

37/45 gives you a starting point of 36G ComfortablyD So try 36G & GG, and 38FF and G. Given that you're inbetween band sizes you'll probably want to size down to the 36's. They will and should feel tight on the loosest hook but they'l give quickly enough.

I am 33 under. I went to debs after one of these threads and was measured by fit, not measurement.

"and was measured by fit, not measurement"

Hallelujah, a fitter without a tape measure grin

Measuring at 33, in some bras/brands you might need the 32 (Freya, Curvy Kate etc) where as others (Gorgeous...) will probably be the 34. For strapless, what about the old Wonderbra Ultimates? I find them a little small in the back. Cup size standard to large - so try the 32DD and 34D maybe?

ComfortablyDumb Wed 26-Jun-13 13:03:46

G??? <faints> That might explain why I prefer braless at home, even I do scare the postman (bless him)

FitByForty Wed 26-Jun-13 13:10:26

Right, I've heeded the advice on here and measured myself as a 36FF! As someone who has worn a 38D since having the kids, this is going to take some getting used to.
But I've ordered a selection of styles around this new size and will let you know how I get on
Looking forward to no more falling down straps (I can't be the only one who just accepted that's how bras are surely grin )

And while I was in the fitting room today (debs) fitting myselfthe fitter was telling a client to lean forward and pull all of the breast tissue into the bra.

Sounds like it was a good fitter.

ComfortablyDumb Sun 30-Jun-13 17:52:28

So, I went to M&S today. It didn't go well.

Lured by their current offer of a fiver off a spend if you get 'fitted' I have discovered that I am a malformed lump of a woman that they don't actually make bras for.

I am apparently hmm a 40A. They only had 40Bs, and despite the cups being too big (quelle surprise) or in the fitters words 'a bit of a nightmare' she thought I could make the best of it. If I didn't buy that bra (I didn't) I wouldn't get the discount as she wouldn't have 'fitted' any others I picked up.

Good times.

freerangeeggs Sun 30-Jun-13 18:02:14

Ok, I'm finally going to bite the bullet and ask for help here!!

I've recently lost weight and all my old bras (34D) are riding up at the back and flapping loose at the cups. Admittedly I haven't taken very good care of them doing think they've stretched too.

Just measured myself - 29 tight under bust and 37 dangling over (but I did that one very loosely - is that right?).

In La Senza today (why does everything have to be frigging neon??) and I tried on a 34C which was kind of fitting but with a bit of a bulge at the boobs.

Thanks in advance smile

SorrelForbes Sun 30-Jun-13 18:02:17

Bloody M&S. They are beyond shit. I can almost guarantee that you are not a 40A.

It would be great if you could tweet/FB/email M&S about your experience.

SorrelForbes Sun 30-Jun-13 18:06:38

Ok you need to try a 28G, 28FF, 30FF and 30F. I would expect the 28 to fit better in many brands.

I would expect you to have overspill in a 34C as the cup volume is only roughly equal to a 28E.

AuntPepita Sun 30-Jun-13 18:08:38

Not surprised a 34c didn't fit! Try a 28f for starters.

AuntPepita Sun 30-Jun-13 18:09:36

Argh, 28ff. Basic maths fail.

freerangeeggs Sun 30-Jun-13 18:12:43

28FF!! Bloody Nora!! :O

Thank you ladies - I'm desperate to go try now!

What style do you think is best? I need uplift... My friend said balconette?

SorrelForbes Sun 30-Jun-13 18:43:40

Yes, balconettes and half cups are usually very good for lift and plunges are good for cleavage.

lookout Sun 30-Jun-13 20:18:50

Sorry it's taken me so long to get back. I am measuring 33.5 around / 40 dangling. I am wearing a 34FF at the moment, am pretty confident in the 34 but all my cups are so gapey.

Also my other big problem is that all of my bras show over the top and under the arms of most of my summery vests and dresses. Are there any styles that are 'skimpier'?

SorrelForbes Sun 30-Jun-13 20:36:02

lookout On your measurements alone (which are only a rough starting point) I'd say try a 32FF, 32F, 34F and a 34E.

How does your newest/least stretched 34FF feel if you do it up back to front? What style is it? I find, as do many others, that many moulded type bras always gape no matter what size you try.

I feel your pain with the bra showing with vests thing. The problem is that as you go into the bigger sizes, some bras do get higher at the sides. I tend to buy vests and dresses that have smallish armholes. I'm sure married or Stats will be along with some suggestions on specific styles/bra names to try.

lookout Sun 30-Jun-13 20:40:33

Sorrel Thanks for the info. Really go down to a 32??

My tightest 34FF feels comfy, sort of well-worn, but I can pull it a fair way out from my front. Now that you say that, it is the moulded ones that are worse. I find the moulded bras generally speaking more comfortable, all the non-moulded I've tried come up to high in the cleavage for me and are excessively painful.

I definitely had the feeling that all the bigger sizes seemed to come up higher in the armpit sad. Will wait and see if there is some more advice. Thanks again!

In bigger cups (and well fitting bras) armholes can be a big problem. I have a combination of solutions for summery clothes

Bravissimo Satine - plunge and relatively delicate straps by my standards so gets under most low cut things
Wonderbra Ultimate strapless - for obvious reasons. I have a nude and a black too which helps
Bras in several colours - I have a red dress which shows the edge of bra in certain positions, looks a lot less obvious if the bra itself matches!
A bra which is good under square necks - for me this is my Ewa Michalak S Wisniowska but a good half cup would also work.
And when all else fails, vest tops - I have a collection with lace a couple of inches thick

lookout Sun 30-Jun-13 21:08:56

Thanks Statistically will check out the satine. I have a strapless, think it's a deco which is good but still come pretty high up so is not great for low cut vests. Will also try a half cup, hadn't thought of that. Thanks again!

ButWhhhyyyMummy Sun 30-Jun-13 21:11:29

please help what am I doing Wrong?*

I have been following the advice and have managed to discover in normal bras I'm a 36E.


DS2 is 8 mths and still EBF and i can not get a nursing bra to fit for love nor money sad

They all are too big between the cups and will not sit flush (or even close to be honest)

What on earth am I doing wrong? I'm 36.5 round the back and 42 around the bust.


Nursing bras are problematic - assuming you mean soft cups they will never sit flat between the boobs. Have you tried the anita wired ones?

Evening all smile

SC has some great suggestions. I'd also add a Cleo Juna, Bravissimo Boudoir Beau and Freya Deco to the low side list.

If your boobs are set quite high on your frame, then the distance from your chin to the top of your boobs can be quite small. Balcony styles like the first two I've listed can stop the bra looking like a vest! Be aware though, that the Juna straps are only half adjustable so not good if you usually have to hoist them up by a lot.

ButWhhhyyyMummy Sun 30-Jun-13 21:18:19

No I haven't, I did mean the soft ones. I will give the anita wired ones a try thank you!

Can I be cheeky and ask where you think is the best place to find them please

Lozislovely Sun 30-Jun-13 21:22:36

Urgh - must have tried 20 bras on over the past couple of days - didn't get on with any M&S 34f/ff - uber tight on the band. Didn't have any 36's to try - though not sure it would have right to jump to 36f/ff or go for 36e??

Went to my local Debenhams today and they've just moved the lingerie dept so it was a bit all over the place. They had nothing in my size in anything I like (all a bit frumpy) and I was getting so hot and bothered I left.

Might try to get to a bravissimo this week as I've had a look on their site and they have some lovely styles.

The main thing I still want is cleavage but from the bras I tried on today I was met with 'keep em far apart from each other' and they looked 'flat' rather than voluptuous hmm

lookout Sun 30-Jun-13 21:26:00

married I have a Deco and find it too high under the arm confused. The distance between my chin and boobs is definitely small, so I will try the other bravissimo you suggest. I do usually have to hoist, so the Cleo might not work for me. Thanks again, you guys are all fabulous smile

SorrelForbes Sun 30-Jun-13 21:36:40

lookout I find that my Cleo Juna gives pretty good lift so it might be worth a try.

Lookout I would say my boobs are quite high too (flashing bras and cleavage in dresses that shouldn't have cleavage is a frequent problem!

Lozis - if you prefer cleavage styles then try Freya Deco, Curvy Kate (smoothie, elegance, tempt me, wild), Bravissimo Satine, Bravissimo dixie etc, Wonderbra everyday t shirt (simple but good), Ewa Michalak S or PL styles

Another Bravissimo one that's really low at the sides is the Laurel. The Fantasie smoothing (in a cup smaller) also works quite well.

A way of avoiding the rubbing on the side of the cups sometimes is to choose a Fantasie style cut 'in' at the armpits like the Rebecca and Esme. They are not my cup of tea, shapewise, but really suit lots of people.

ComfortablyDumb Mon 01-Jul-13 09:46:58

Thanks Sorrel I know it sounds very silly, but it really did make me quite sad for the rest of the day but I now have a 'BeyondShit' mantra to cheer me up grin

I will have another go, but will have to wait for another childfree time (and for bruised ego to recover)

Don't think I can face contacting them. Not sure what I could say. I didn't like your staff member & some internet people said she is wrong too, so there? confusedblush

SorrelForbes Mon 01-Jul-13 10:14:59

I'd say exactly that tbh. They are so arrogant and unwilling to listen to the feedback they get about their bra fitting service.

Have you read the secret shopper reports on Bra Guru's blog? All those were sent to M&S but to no avail.

Having said that, it's baby steps AFAIC. These days, after many interventions by yours truly, none of my close family or friends buy their bras from M&S.

lookout Wed 03-Jul-13 11:55:05

I have made a note of them and will get some to try when my purse is a little healthier! Having spent over £100 on all new bras a little over 4 months ago I can't really justify doing it again yet. Might try and just get one for my holidays though, I hate having my bra showing under vests.

Hi am new to all this bra intervention but someone on another thread recommended it. I have for many years worn a 36d bra. I am a size 12 in clothes. I measured myself and am 32 around the bottom of the bra and 39 when leaning over so what size should I wear? I prefer wired bras for support. I have always felt that my boobs make me look bigger than I am sad Last time M&S measured me they suggested 34-36D.

Advice please thanks.

sparkle12mar08 Thu 11-Jul-13 18:42:41

Try a 32F Mumof2. A well fitting bra will lift your boobs back to where they should be and gives most women the appearance of an instant half-stone weight loss!

mzdemeanour Thu 11-Jul-13 19:47:06

Have any of you bra wonders got any suggestions for possible styles to try for me? I like fantasie elodie and savannah but sometimes find the central gore hurts/rubs between my breasts. Am a 30f/32e and need a lot of support for my spaniel ears. TIA for your help.

frenchfancy Thu 11-Jul-13 20:30:56

Hi mumof2 it was me that recommended you look on this thread, I've been really worried that you thought I was rude blush 32F sounds right (same size as me) but in some styles/makes you might be a 34E. Added to that the problem of finding 32F on the high street of course. I was in the large Primark on Oxford street the other day. Masses of bras, not one in my size sad When you do get the right size you will be amazed at the difference it makes, to the way you look and your posture.

sparkle12mar08 Thu 11-Jul-13 21:11:30

Brastop is your friend for cheap larger cup bras with free returns!

MrsAmaretto Thu 11-Jul-13 21:33:50

Hello, I've got a few questions, if anyone could help?

Could somebody help me with what size range I should order? I'm 34.5 around, & 43.5, bending over. So I think I should order 34G for starters, but what other sizes do you recommend?

Also I've one breast smaller than the other (used to be nearly a cup size in difference) is there any styles I should keep away from or you would recommend?

And finally, I stopped bf 3-4 weeks ago & I'm feeling very empty/saggy. Will my breasts firm up or are these my new boobs???

Can't wait to get into non feeding bras!!

Thank you for your help, these threads have been enlightening.

MrsAmaretto, try a 34G and probably GG. However, if there are particular bras you like post links as between us we've probably tried every damn bra in the country so can advise on fit for specifics.

Have a look at for info on asymmetry and how to manage it.

Personally, my post baby/milk (I didn't actually bf for any length of time) boobs were very empty and saggy. Whilst they haven't returned to their former glory, they are substantially better than they were.

MrsAmaretto Thu 11-Jul-13 23:21:35

Thank you!

outoffuel Fri 12-Jul-13 21:12:00

OK, I'm feeling brave and know I need new bras, as currently fall into that 36A camp!

I am 32.5cm around, and 37cm dangling!

I am not well-endowed (2 asprins on a draining board)- but my bras are not suiting me and doing nothing to flatter. In fact, they are digging in under the bust.

What size should I be trying on?


OK, in general you need around a 32D/DD

<waits for outoffuel to recover>

They're digging in because the back isn't giving enough support so everything collapses forward.

outoffuel Fri 12-Jul-13 21:17:26

.... oooooohhhhhh
and exhale.

Feel like Pamela Anderson now! Positively Busty!

No, thank you for taking the time to let me know. If I go to M&S should I look for that size, or are there better bras for the smaller cupped lady?!? (Feel like I'm talking in 'are you being served' lingo!!)

I'd start with a 32D and DD (I assume you meant inches there!)

TBH, M&S bras aren't great - if you have somewhere like Debenhams or JOhn Lewis you will get a much better range of bras to try on. Even better if you have a Bravissimo of course!

Evening Married!

outoffuel Fri 12-Jul-13 21:21:50

OK. Well I've got a birthday coming up, and am going to the big smoke for the day- so will try and find a Bravissimo and get these bad boys properly under control! (I will however be walking like a proud peacock from now onwards!).

lookout Sat 13-Jul-13 13:37:28

Took reception of a Freya half-cup this morning and have just tried it on with all my low cut tops and vests and it is perfect! Doesn't show at the top or under the arm! HOORAY!! Thanks so much for all your advice, I reeeaaaally appreciate it. One happy customer here smile

MrsAmaretto Sat 13-Jul-13 21:48:12

Me again! So I ordered a Cleo Juna & panache porcelain. The bands on both were perfect, but despite vigorous scooping I had the following issues;

Cleo Juna: both cups were gaping at the top. Larger boob about1/2 inch between breast & fabric. The central gore/ wires were sitting flat, but felt like they were too long for my body & were painful causing red marks

Panache porcelain: huge, huge, cups.

So I assume I go down a cup size or two?

SorrelForbes Sat 13-Jul-13 21:57:26

Re. the Cleo Juna. Don't expect the lace bit to lie flat or be filled by boob. Try tucking it inside the cup when trying on the bra. That way you can get a better idea of fit.

mrs amaretto It sounds as if the Juna sits too deep for you and changing the size won't improve that.

I'd suggest ordering the porcelain in the next two cup sizes down to see if either work, especially if there are no other comfort issues.

The combination of loss of volume and asymmetry makes it harder to get cup sizing using just measurements and you may find that you're a different size in every bra style.

MrsAmaretto Sun 14-Jul-13 09:09:23

Thanks, yes I was ignoring the fit of the lace bit on the Juna as I assumed it was just "frippery" smile

Will confuse the packers at figleaves by ordering lots of different sizes!

Thanks again!

SorrelForbes Sun 14-Jul-13 09:40:21

Bra frippery. My new say

turnwest Sun 14-Jul-13 13:48:01


Just wondered if anyone could help me. I ve just seen some photos taken of me recently,when i thought I looked ok, and I m horrified to be honest, I look awful. Anyway, one thing that really stood out are my boobs, I was wearing a comfy bra and in the photo I noticed that my boobs looked very, very saggy. I m going to buy some new ones but I want them to be the right size.

Under my bust is 31" and across my bust when I lean over is 35", I m currently wearing 36C as thats the size I ve always felt comfiest in. Can anyone advise me? I was trying to to work up the courage to be measured in M and S, but I m quite shy. Thanks very much.

SorrelForbes Sun 14-Jul-13 14:16:59

Please don't go to M&S, the experience wold probably make you feel worse!

Ok, try a 30DD/D and a 32D/C. Don't be afraid to go even bigger in the cup as some brands come up very small. Follow the guidance on the bra guru blog about how to get the band right first before dealing with the cups.

SorrelForbes Sun 14-Jul-13 14:18:52

Sorry typing in the garden so should have asked about how your current cup fits after you've scooped?

The volume on a 36C cup is roughly the same volume as a 34D, a 32DD and a 30E. If you're spilling out of your 36C cup you might need to try a 30E/F/FF too!

turnwest Sun 14-Jul-13 14:51:57

Thanks sorrelforbes, I m definitely not spilling out of the 36C, when I have it on the cup gapes a little because my boobs dont quite fill it. I ll have a look a the link you posted before ordering any, never realised how aging a bad bra is until I saw the photos of me!

SorrelForbes Sun 14-Jul-13 15:13:00

The cup will be gaping because the band is too loose allowing everything to fall forward rather than being held firmly in place. Did you scoop?

turnwest Sun 14-Jul-13 15:13:04

I ve had a look at the bra guru blog and I m sure now that I m not a 36", I m still in shock, cant believe I ve been wearing the wrong size bra for years.

SorrelForbes Sun 14-Jul-13 15:14:10

You're not the first and you won't be the last grin. Honestly, you're going to notice such a difference in comfort, fit and shape once you've found some properly fitting bras.

turnwest Sun 14-Jul-13 15:29:56

Yes I did scoop, which was I realised just how big my current bra is! I cant wait to try a few new ones on, so embarrassing to think that I m only 36 but have wandering around for years with saggy boobs.

Justinepants Sun 14-Jul-13 16:06:47

Firstly, thank you so much Bra Intervention ladies for reminding me that I am a 32E not a 36B - got lost somewhere along the way after babies.

I've ordered some bikinis from Brastop (eek!) in preparation for August holiday. I'm surprised to find really like this one Hawaii bikini but the top is definitely too small. The band is too tight and the cups seem a bit small. How should I size up - 34E, 34F?

(I'm also not quite sure about one of the bras I got from Bravissimo but I think that's a different post. )

SorrelForbes Sun 14-Jul-13 16:45:16

Justinepants Bikinis can often fit quite differently to bras (annoying!) but usually I find the backs come up larger. Did you try it on back to front first? If you did, how did the band feel then?

Justinepants Sun 14-Jul-13 17:29:29

I'd forgotten that crucial stage.
Just got the roast squash in the oven (why am I doing that in this heat?!) and popped upstairs to check.
The band is pretty tight but it does fit. I think a 34" would probably be too big. Does that mean a 32F?
You realise my husband won't recover from the shock. He's only just getting over the new 32E bras. I'm a little worried he may be sharing the news with his work colleagues blush

SorrelForbes Sun 14-Jul-13 17:40:10

Oh I love roasted squash envy

Yep, go up a cup or maybe even two cups.

Justinepants Sun 14-Jul-13 17:51:43

It's a bit random, especially as I hardly ever cook, but having bought it on a whim last week it's been staring at me so I thought I'd better do something with it. (The squash that is, not the bikini!)

Right 32F, 32FF it is. I'm very surprised to find myself buying a bikini but I was inspired by a thread the other day. The bottoms of this one are very flattering

The other option is this one, Fantasie Aruba where the top is a really good fit but I need to find bigger bottoms somewhere else.

Thanks, Sorrel

anythingforaquietnight Sun 14-Jul-13 19:06:09

Why have I not looked at these bra threads before. I hate bras. I've always hated them. I've just measured myself. I'm a 37FF. I've been buying 42/44 B or Cs for years! This is a revelation. Thank you so much! I am going to read all the threads and start working out where to order bras from. We're going to a wedding in a couple of weeks. I am looking forward to sporting a fine frontage instead of my usual saggy look.

anythingforaquiet - if you measure 37/45 then you would want to try a 36FF, 36G, 38FF and 38F. The 36s are more likely

DeliciousIrony Tue 16-Jul-13 10:26:53

Hello, I am new to all this bra intervention business.

I am 28 underbust, and 34 over (doing the braless 90 degree thing) can it be right that I am a 28E?
I usually buy 34D/DDs.

SorrelForbes Tue 16-Jul-13 10:47:08

Hi DeliciousIrony Your measurements suggest a starting point of a 28E. However, the cup on your 34DD is roughly equivalent to the cup on a 28FF. If you scoop, do you get any overspill at the moment?

DeliciousIrony Tue 16-Jul-13 10:56:20

I always seem to get overspill, I really hate it! Is it worth ordering a bra in a 28E to have a go? I'm not convinced I could squeeze into it, but not many shops have bras that size to try on.

SorrelForbes Tue 16-Jul-13 11:17:02

It's really hard to find 28 bands on the high street. Some Debenhams, HOF and JLs do stock them but not in any great number. On-line ordering is the way to go: Brastop, My Curves and Me, Figleaves, Bravissimo, Amazon and eBay.

If you've got overspill in a DD then a 28E is probably not going to give you enough volume in the cup. I'd order a balcony or full cup style in a 28E/F/FF and see how you get on. If you measure 28 under bust then most 28 backs should be fine but they might take a little getting used to after wearing a looser fit. Remember to try the bra on back to front first as per the guidance here

sounds like you are some who needs a bigger size cup than they measure so I would order a selection of 28s but I suspect an e will be too small. I'd maybe try f-gg

SorrelForbes Tue 16-Jul-13 11:18:53

Actually, it might not be worth bothering with the E! Try an F/FF/G. You are probably one of those people who needs a bigger bra than your measurements suggest. Do you think you have fairly shallow boobs that are quite wide on your chest?

docket Tue 16-Jul-13 12:10:56

Hello, could anyone kindly link to the 'how to do it' guide? I can't seem to find it and I am sure I am wearing the wrong size bra!

Just measured myself and I am a 30 under bust and a measly 33 over it!


SorrelForbes Tue 16-Jul-13 12:38:34
docket Tue 16-Jul-13 13:06:26

thanks SorrelForbes!

thriftychic Wed 17-Jul-13 10:19:17

I am eagerly awaiting my figleaves order today. have been wearing a 34A , measure 29 under and 32 over . so i will have a few different sizes to try on and perhaps find my perfect bra !

Whitecat Wed 17-Jul-13 13:35:17

My most comfy bra is a Marie Jo 32E which was recommended by Rigby & Peller and I thought it fit properly. Then being curious about so many transformations on the bra threads I scooped and now I can see the cups are definitely too small.
Measurement around ribcage is 32.5, measurement bending is 40.5. My boobs don't project very far but are quite wide. Should I be looking for 32FF/G?

I think so yes whitecat

Whitecat Wed 17-Jul-13 14:26:38

Thanks OneLittleLady I'll have a delve on the web.

whitecat Marie Jo sizing is strange (generous with missing letters!), but IIRC their cups would be the right shape for you as they are wide set. It may be a case of trying a cup or two bigger rather than aiming for the specific measured size.

Fantasie Salsa and Tutti Rouge Lilliana are the widest based bras I have seen recently.

DeliciousIrony Tue 23-Jul-13 12:22:14

Ooh, I should have listened! I ordered two bras in a 28E, couldn't believe that I could be any bigger cup size than that and exected to not be able to squeeze into a 28 band size...

Well, the 28 band is fine! Snug but comfortable, and gives me less back/armpit fat than other bras I have tried on in bigger bands. The cups are a bit too small, so will try a 28F/FF. Hats off to you guys, you know your stuff. And to think I have been wearing 34Ds....

don't worry delicious it happens all the time. People always order the smallest cup we suggest cos it sounds scarily big!

hotair Tue 23-Jul-13 14:25:18

hello again bra gurus, I'm the 36l who was cured of her horrific back problems by the bra intervention threads- since last time I'd been holding off on buying the bra marriednotdead suggested, due to finances but the bra's I brought and altered the first time round have given up the ghost, so it's now urgent!
the good news is that due to bra demise I dug through old bras that I never wore because they were too uncomfortable etc and found an unworn panache eliza in a 38jj- and on the tightest hook it fits- in fact the cup is a better fit than the melody full cup ones I altered. Terribly uncomfortably sadly though as the wires come up too high under my arms.
So with this new fitting information what bras should I get? I was thinking of getting an elomi as I have this sports bra in a 38j cup which is very very close to fitting- again only on the tightest hook

Hmm. Now, the 38JJ should be the equivalent of a 36K roughly. I remember there was a lot of trying on, but my memort fails beyond that! this is the current selection of Bravissimo K cups. Can you remember which of these you have tried? What size were the Melodies again? (I know you altered them)

hotair Tue 23-Jul-13 14:39:58

The melodies were 38kk and still too small in the cup- by quite away!
None of the last season k/kk cups fitted and the alana bra was the worst by far!
(I was the poster whose ill-fitting bra ill health story is on the bra campaign website and got fitted by bravissimo into a 40jj, when I have a 36 back if that jogs your memory)

hotair Tue 23-Jul-13 14:41:54

This is the bra married not dead suggested by the way.

I remembered that - just couldn't quite remember what you had tried although I knew the Alana was grim. I suspect it is just all wrong for your boobs! I have a feeling the Melody full cup runs small but I wouldn't swear to it. Hopefully married will be along soon - I'll PM her.

I have heard a lot of very good things about the Jasmine

hotair Tue 23-Jul-13 14:52:02

marriednotdead reckons it'll be great, but I'd still need a nude at least, and the old eliza has galvanized me into thinking maybe we can find a better fit than the melody!

hotair Tue 23-Jul-13 14:56:37

I'm currently thinking of the elsa because I love the colour and this, although in a 38jj it'll probably be too small, and was also considering freja...

I don't think Freya will work. Their wires aren't that strong - even in my 30HH/J I find some of them a bit...lacking. I would think in general that Panache or Bravissimo are likely to be better. I like the look of the Elomi though

hotair Tue 23-Jul-13 15:05:43

ok freja off the list!
The elomi sports bra I have is amazing- incredibly sturdy and well made!

HaplessHousewife Tue 23-Jul-13 20:56:32

So I've been fitted by Bravissimo for a number of years now and weirdly my back size went down after having DC – I was always a 32 before, how does that work?

I was measured not long after finishing BF and was 30F/FF depending on the bra. I went back a few months later as thought they would have shrunk a bit but no they were happy with the fit.

Recently I've been thinking my bras feel too small so measured myself today and my back was 29 (this fits with what the Bravissimo lady said as she thought I might be a 28 but actually the 30 fit fine). But the over breast measurement was 40!!!!

So that makes me a 30H????

How can my boobs have grown since stopping BF? I was a 32E before 2 DC!

Somewhere around a 30GG/H would seem likely - how small do the 30FF feel in the cup?

Boob growth is a funny old thing - sometimes they just expand! Pill or hormonal contraception can be a common culprit

HaplessHousewife Tue 23-Jul-13 21:32:20

I spend quite a lot of time poking my bigger boob back into my bra blush.

No hormones to put it down to. I have put on about half a stone, maybe it's all in my boobs (I wish).

I'll have to try and head up to London and get some even bigger bras shock.

IDoAllMyOwnStunts Tue 23-Jul-13 21:46:57

For years I've been wondering about my spillage and why my nipples don't stay in my bra.

I've been wearing a 36B since I was about 18 (mid 40s now). Just measured a 33 underneath and 39 bending over across boobs. Should I try 34DD? Or a 32F? Have I got that right? Sounds massive?!

Idoallmyownstunts - try a 32F, 32e, 34e and 34dd

IDoAllMyOwnStunts Tue 23-Jul-13 22:09:05

Oooh thanks, am hoping for a revelation (and no more having to shove my nipples back into place)! Feels like I'll be having an instant boob job - I always had the mindset that C cup was huge and out of my league.
Going to go bra shopping tomorrow - thanks!

riojabotherer Fri 26-Jul-13 20:12:46

A lovely lady at Rigby and Peller today transformed me from a 34D to a 30E! The bra she fitted me was nice (Primadonna Deauville), but not £85 nice. I'm a bit stumped now - should I order any old bra in a 30E, or if I'm ordering online, is there a small range of sizes either side that I should try? Also wondering if there's anything similar to the R&P bra out there, fit-wise.

Afterwards I tried a Freya bra in the same size and it wasn't a great fit but ended up buying one from Maison Lejaby which was pretty good in a 30E.

Thanks for any advice.

I haven't tried that particular bra - I think Sorrel might have though. However if not, I would maybe treat that as your starting point when you are trying things and work from there.

riojabotherer Fri 26-Jul-13 20:31:45

Thank you! What's the betting I end up going back to R&P. I think it's confidence I lack - it was great having an expert tell me the bra was right.

Can you get to a Bravissimo? They have a good range (and you now know that you are in their size bracket) but their bras are generally around £30

SorrelForbes Fri 26-Jul-13 21:01:09

Alas, I had the Prima Dona Wonderland. Lovely bra but I am now too big for it. It came up a bit small in the back if I recall.

My DM loves Prima Dona and I agree, they are fabulous bras. However, if I'm honest I get just as good a shape in my EMs and Cleos!

riojabotherer Fri 26-Jul-13 21:50:39

I shall take my new boobs to Bravissimo. Looking for something a little younger and, dare I say, jazzier than R&P, so think I'll be in the right place. Thanks, helpful ladies.

From a fit/quality point of view, I'd ask to try a Fantasie Elodie (@£38) or their own Alana bra. The brands that R&P sell are what I would describe as vanity sized, so don't be surprised if you end up in a couple of cups bigger, especially in the Alana.

farrowandbawl Fri 26-Jul-13 22:40:04

Old measurements = 32D

New Measurements = 30FF!

I can't wait to buy a bra tomorrow to see how it feels. My bra's (which I've not had for long and was "measured" for are killing me and I'm spilling out of them.

Elliptic5 Fri 26-Jul-13 23:56:19

I have been fitted by Bravissimo for the last couple of years only recently I have started having problems as after I lost weight I went down two back sizes and up in cup size. My problem is the number of hooks - now virtually all the bras in my size 30GG or 28H have three hooks and I'm finding the wider band a huge problem with digging into my ribs especially when sitting down.
I also have problems with the wire under my arm rubbing if it comes up too high. Apart from putting the weight back on what can I do?
Apologies if this has been answered elsewhere.
BTW I checked with the intervention method and am 30 under and 40 over.

It sounds like the size is correct - you "measure" at a 30GG but needing a 30GG in some and a 28H in others is absolutely normal.

Personally I prefer the broader bands from a support POV (I'm around a 30HH/J) although I know what you mean about slight digging when sitting down. Do you have quite a short torso (I do and suspect this is part of the reason)

Have you tried anything from Cleo? They can be high under the arm although they are generally better than the main Panache line, but they are one of the few who stick at 2 hooks throughout the size range.

Which bras do you tend to wear and what sort of shape are your boobs - close set or wide set (how big is the central gap), narrow root or wide root (how wide is each boob!), full on top, bottom or all over etc? Might help us suggest some options

Elliptic5 Sat 27-Jul-13 07:35:07

Yes, my torso is short statistically. I do have one Cleo in a 30GG, which fits quite well but does start to rub under the arms during the day.
I always used to wear Freya bras before the weight loss with absolutely no problem at all usually in a balconette style.
I would say I am more close than wide set, probably wide root and full at the bottom.

I tried the Curvy Kate Tease Me - I have ridiculously close set boobs and it didn't work because of that, but otherwise although it is a 3 hook band the band is very soft, the wires are wide and I seem to remember them being quite short under the arm too.

Other bras I am able to wear (also prone to armpit stabbing because my bust is quite high I think) are Ewa Michalak (the S and SM styles) and quite a few bravissimo branded ones like the Betsy Bow and Alana. Panache is my bitter enemy grin

ILikeBirds Sat 27-Jul-13 08:22:34

Pah! Another unsuccessful bra shopping trip. I had high hopes for the Alana but the F was too small and the FF was too big. Everything else I tried on just seemed randomly sized.

fairiesinthegarden Sat 27-Jul-13 08:30:17

Good morning, I've been reading through all this as I have a few old bras that need replacing. Have been in a 38C for a very long time, but my measurements are actually 36 & 44 so I'm going out looking for a 36FF. Could you let me know what other sizes to try please as that's the bit I'm a little confused about. TIA.

Alana runs a bit small in the cup - probably about half a size. What else did you try Ilikebirds?

Fairies start with the 36FF but have a read of this so you know how to check it fits. Get the band right first, it's the key. And SCOOP!

What sort of bra would you recommend for someone with one boob a good cup size bigger than the other? I'm going to do a bra intervention on my little sister today and want to be armed with knowledge grin

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Have a read of this Spotty.

ILikeBirds Sat 27-Jul-13 08:56:39

Tried Freya Hello Dolly in a 32f which was massive in both band and cup. Tried a 30f and still too big in the cup and no size smaller in stock

A bravissimo one that I can't remember the name of, band was fine but underwiring didn't reach round the sides.

Bravissimo cherry fling, fitted but strange shape on me

And then the Alana I mentioned earlier.

Stock was fairly rubbish and that was about all there was in my size.


Elliptic5 Sat 27-Jul-13 09:47:33

Statistically I have tried the Alana but it rubbed everywhere. I think Bravissimo are finding me a bit of a nuiscance as twice they have fitted me recently and I've ended up returning bras. I've still got from last time a Panache Melody which is a 3 hook and rubs, previously I got a Freya Faye which is the same.
I do have have a Freya Tabitha in 30GG which is a 2 hook and the most comfortable of my recent bras.
I will look at Curvy Kate, are all their bands soft or only on the Tease Me?

31 and 37?

christinecagney Sat 27-Jul-13 11:10:47

Can I have some help? I measure 33.5 inches underneath and 46 inches bending over. I'm wearing a 34 DD but have a variety of totally rubbish sizes in the drawer. Worst is 38 E but on almost all sizes the straps fall off my shoulders all day.

SorrelForbes Sat 27-Jul-13 11:13:54

christinecagney Straps falling down is a sure fire sign of a band that's too big for you.

Try a 32JJ/J and a 34J/HH. TBH I can't imagine how uncomfortable your 34DD must be. What happens to the cups if you scoop? How far can you stretch the band away from your body?

christinecagney Sat 27-Jul-13 11:20:55

I can pull the band about 3 inches away from my body. If I scoop it all blobbles crepe-style-ee out of the top and makes me have a carry on film sort of cleavage. Mmm attractive.

SorrelForbes Sat 27-Jul-13 11:32:16

Sounds lovely wink. Ok, the band sounds a little too big and the cups much much too small so I'd try the 32s and go from there.

Spotty - 30E/F, 32E/DD

Thank you smile

fairiesinthegarden Sat 27-Jul-13 13:31:15

Thanks for the info earlier Statistically.

So I've tried 2 bras in Next in a 36F (doesn't look like they do a FF). One was padded and one wasn't, both balcony style. The padded one was gaping a bit along the top of the cup, and the unpadded one was massive all over the cup - just generally quite baggy. Should I try an E cup?

The good news is that the back size was perfect and after a good scoop my back fat disappeared as promised!! smile

Possibly - I'm not sure how standard next's sizing is so if you are ordering online I'd maybe try e and f

ILikeBirds Sat 27-Jul-13 16:55:50

Woohoo, just found bras in Tesco in a 32f that fit grin

And only 6 quid, even better.

scripsi Tue 13-Aug-13 19:20:23

Sorry to resurrect this thread, but if I measure 28 under bust and 34.5 over, what am I?

tipp2chicago Tue 13-Aug-13 20:59:30

Ok, 34.5 under my bust, 48 around shock quite saggy (always have been, not just the aftermath of pregnancy & a year bf). Kind of shallow at the top and fuller below. Nips point straight down when not appropriately restrained. smile V close together in the middle (about 1 finger width apart), and v wide rooted. I do find the Freya/Fantasie range quite good, currently wearing 36GG which I was measured for at 10 weeks post partum (this time 12 months ago, more or less) I was previously a 34 GG as measured by local independent store.

Rosie3401 Fri 08-Nov-13 21:59:56

Hi, hope someone can help. I have been wearing a 36DD but never feel comfortable. I looked at a measurement chart from a bra fitting company which stated I should be a 38A. Went to a shop, could not find a 38A, so tried a 38B. It was far too small in the cup size. I am not very well so didn't want to stay in the shop trying all different sizes so gave up and went home. I then found this thread and then I had hope again! I have measured as suggested on here and I am 32.5 under the bust and 40 across the bust. Could anyone tell me what size I should try first?
Thank you

SorrelForbes Fri 08-Nov-13 22:10:36

I would start with a 32FF.

Rosie3401 Fri 08-Nov-13 23:14:18

Thank you, I will give that a try.

AmazingDisgrace Sat 09-Nov-13 15:15:45

Elliptic, try the Nessa Matylda from brastop. Very stretchy and comfortable. Its also not cut too high near the armpit so no digging in. I'd recommend trying it in a smaller band size as its very stretchy indeed!

Curioustiger Sat 09-Nov-13 17:13:47

Hi all, can I post my stats? I have been wearing a 36d and then JL measured me with a tape measure and said 34dd / e. I then measured myself the bra intervention way and came up with 32 inches / 40 or maybe 41 inches. Does this mean I should try 32FF? I tried 32F in a shop today and to my amazement the strap fitted better than the fallback 34DD I also tried. However my boobs kind of bobbled out at each side... Under arm fat is not a good look so I returned empty handed. Should I try 32FF when I get hold of one? Also, where would I get one, are they easy to find?

SorrelForbes Sat 09-Nov-13 17:34:04

Curioustiger Yes, try a 32FF/G. I suspect a G might be a good fit and would get rid of the side bulge.

JL, Debenhams and HoF should all stock those sizes but Bravissimo is your best bet for choice.

Curioustiger Sat 09-Nov-13 17:44:48

Bloody hell! Will do and report back!

Curioustiger Wed 13-Nov-13 22:11:56

Right. I got a fauve in 32g and 32ff and an ultimo balconette type bra in 32ff. Disappointing on all fronts really... I didn't fill the cups of the G (fauve) and the balconette just looked and felt really uncomfortable (a bit trussed up) although that probably is because it was a balconette, fair enough. The 32ff fauve was a good band fit but the style was horrible. I will try again with more 32ffs ...

memz200 Sat 16-Nov-13 04:26:07

hey i need help i'm a 35 underbust and 42 overbust i normally wear a 36 b but i feel thet it's a bit loose.

SorrelForbes Sat 16-Nov-13 10:20:58

Your measurements suggest trying a 34FF. If you scoop when wearing your 36B do you get a lot of overspill?

memz200 Sat 16-Nov-13 17:45:48

yes i get a bit overspill and some wrinkles inmy boobs the cup doesn't fit?

SorrelForbes Sat 16-Nov-13 18:14:17

OK, a 36B has the same cup volume as a 34C so technically you're wearing a bra that's about 5 cups too small. I would expect there to be a lot of overspill especially after [[ scooping]].

If, after scooping, there is only a bit of overspill, then perhaps try a 34D/DD/E but honestly, your measurements really do indicate something in the region of at least an F cup. Have you got armpit bulge/back fat etc.?

memz200 Sun 17-Nov-13 05:04:23

ok thanks that was helpful

FlamingGallah Tue 19-Nov-13 13:28:20

Hi, could I have some advice please?

As a result of this thread I've gone from a 36C to a 32G, and just bought 2 bras in Bravissimo. I thought they were lovely when tried on, but 2 hours later its chaffing under my armpits and the underwires are digging into me between my boobs and underneath.

Should I give it a bit longer, or does this mean the style isn't really suitable?

Such a shame, was so excited when I first put them on!

SorrelForbes Tue 19-Nov-13 15:36:49

Like a new pair of shoes, some bras do need a little 'wearing in'. However, it may be that these particular bras are just cut too high under the arm for you.

Which bras are they?

IWipeArses Tue 19-Nov-13 18:56:45

Ok, I've got a 38JJ from Brastop, Flirtelle. The cup looks ok, scooped etc. The gore sits flat, but I'm getting some rubbing under the boobs. It doesn't feel too tight, definitely not too big. Will it get better or is it the shape? Ta.

SorrelForbes Tue 19-Nov-13 19:00:22

Hmmm, I'm not that familiar with Flirtelle but I believe they're made by Curvy Kate a brand which just doesn't suit me at all. The cups are too shallow. Would you say your breasts project quite a way or are they shallow (sometimes wide set too)?

IWipeArses Tue 19-Nov-13 20:25:43

I've got bulbous boobs, long. I suspect it's the narrow root combined with large volume problem.

SorrelForbes Tue 19-Nov-13 20:59:58

If you think you'll definitely keep the bra then you could try very gently bending the wires to a more 'body' shape. I do this to quite a few of my stiffer bras.

TopHatAndTails Tue 19-Nov-13 21:15:33

Hi ladies I would really appreciate some help. I have just tried measuring under breasts and then around fullest part whilst bending forwards, my measurements are 31" and 45 1/2". What size does that make me? I usually wear anything from 36DD to 34F. But I have a lot of trouble with underwires digging in and often find I have to readjust myself as I grow a third boob in the middle through the day! blush. Any advice most gratefully received.

SorrelForbes Tue 19-Nov-13 21:32:47

Your measurements suggest trying a 30K/KK and 32JJ/K.

Your current 36DD has a cup volume equivalent to a 30FF/32F. Your 34F has a cup volume equivalent to a 30G /32FF. So, quire a big difference!

What happens if you scoop (with vigour)? I would expect you to have a lot of overspill/quad boob/under arm bulge etc.

TopHatAndTails Tue 19-Nov-13 21:38:07

Yes Sorrel a lot of over spillage blush. Thank you so much for your help. Friends have often commented on the size of my bust but I must admit it doesn't look that big to me. But I'm at my wits end with bra's so I will definitely try going up to the size you suggest but yikes! I guess I will never get a decent sports bra.

Thank you again for taking the time to reply smile

IWipeArses Tue 19-Nov-13 21:41:00

Yes, I could flatten out the bottom of the wire, thank you.

SorrelForbes Tue 19-Nov-13 21:47:36

TopHatAndTails Honestly, a really good, properly fitting bra will probably make you look smaller! Anyway, a 30/32 K really isn't THAT big. Make sure you try a brand with strong wires like Panache.

TopHatAndTails Tue 19-Nov-13 21:55:54

Thanks Sorrel feel much better now smile It's not that I think its a huge size, just that I struggle to get a sports bra in an F cup! Does anyone know a decent make? I resort to riding in 2 normal bra's at the moment. Think my friends have been trying to tell me for a while that I'm more bulges than boobs blush. Thanks again Sorrel.

SorrelForbes Tue 19-Nov-13 21:58:28

Enell, Shock Absorber and Freya Active underwired are all highly regarded. Sports bras often come up small so be prepare to size up. In the Freya I'd recommend trying a 34 band.

FlamingGallah Tue 19-Nov-13 22:13:47

Thanks Sorrel, I spoke to a very nice lady at Bravissimo who also said it didn't sound right. It was a Panache bra and she certainly wasn't surprised it was chaffing, said it was not uncommon. She recommended some other styles and they are sending them out to me.

Very impressed with their service so far!

SorrelForbes Wed 20-Nov-13 07:01:16

They really are excellent aren't they? Panache are very stiff bras and can take some getting used to. Hopefully the new styles they're sending will suit you better.

Curioustiger Thu 21-Nov-13 00:08:50

Hello again I tried a 32ff and a 32g in debenhams' gorgeous range (cheap!) and also a longline Freya bra as well. I would be hard pushed to say which one fitted better of the two but I much preferred the styles to the last ones I tried. The cups seem right but they feel so tight though with a bit of back fat (tbf I think I actually do have a bit of a fat back, I imagine no bra will eliminate that!) ... And the straps are that very thick type of strap, I don't think they're super flattering on...

I am having a bit of a wobble! I miss my simple 36D life!

SorrelForbes Thu 21-Nov-13 07:08:32

Debenhams Gorgeous range tends to come up about 1 size too small in the cup and the band IME. I've tried on bras in a 32H which have been too small (I'm a 30GG). I don't get on wth Freya at a I'm afraid so can't advise there.

My go to bras a the moment are the Cleo range. They seem to suit a lot people and run true to size. They are very pretty, low at the sides and have fairly thin straps. You can usually pick up a set for under £30 for last seasons colors.

Passthecake30 Thu 21-Nov-13 13:58:12

sorrel what are your faves in the Cleo range? I currently have 2 black 30ff junas that I like, but I'm not overly impressed with the cream one that they have, so, any suggestions?

SorrelForbes Thu 21-Nov-13 15:23:26

My current favourites are the Bella, Melissa, Lily and Marcie

HazleNutt Thu 21-Nov-13 16:02:15

Freya Active underwired is the best sports bra I've tried so far. I need to size up in Shock Absorbers, but could get Freya in my usual back size. It's tight, but will stretch just enough when you're wearing it. The moulded one is not bad either, although I find it slightly less supportive.

Passthecake30 Fri 22-Nov-13 09:09:26

Thanks sorrel, will look smile

Curioustiger Sat 23-Nov-13 18:51:31

I'm back with another silly qu. I wore my 32ff Freya bra today which was comfortable enough if a tight fit. When I took it off after six hours or so there were red marks around my rib cage. Does that mean its too tight? Sorry for silly questions, but everything I thought I knew about bras has been turned on its head by Mumsnet!

SorrelForbes Sun 24-Nov-13 00:46:45

No, I get red marks from all my bras (similar to waist band marks from jeans or ankle marks from socks). As long as they're not sore then all should be ok!

arleta66 Mon 23-Dec-13 14:23:30

Hi everyone, have just come across mumsnet and this thread. I dread bra shopping these days, used to be a 34b (decades ago now!) and just pick a bra up from M&S no problems. But nowadays am (I think) a 36e and have a lot of trouble finding bras that fit and feel comfy, I shop mainly at M&S as can't afford Bravissimo and find that M&s t shirt bras(which is the style I like ) often leave a gap at top of cup for me ,but am filling bottom and couldn't go for a smaller cup as wouldn't be sitting flat against ribcage. It seems that my boobs are wider at the bottom than top, but surely this happens with time with bigger boobs, gravity affects us all!! I am in my late forties and have breast fed but they are by no means lemons in socks! lol! if you know what I mean, as have never done crash diet or quick weight loss. I usually go for a plunge style as one boob slightly bigger than other so with balconette I get wire digging in that boob. I am wondering if I could be wearing wrong size but back size feels ok other than on old bras, which have stretched. Can anyone else advise please as to which style bra to try?

SorrelForbes Mon 23-Dec-13 15:05:44

M&S bras at pretty crap and moulded tshirt style are very tricky to fit as they don't mould to your shape. What are your under bust (tight) and over bust (loose) measurements?

As SF said, measure yourself as per this guide and report back

if you boobs are fuller on bottom then moulded t shirt bras are a very difficult style to wear. They're harder anyway but in this instance are probably not helping matters.

There is also info on that site for how to fit asymmetrical boobs - still measure the same way but that should help when it comes to shopping

EustaciaVye Mon 23-Dec-13 18:17:07

ladies. I bought some new bras in a 36H the other day and they fit well, look great once I have scooped grin . However, one if the underwires seems to start digging into me under the arm half way through the day. Any suggestions?

It could be a style issue - which bra is it? However if you have been wearing the wrong size it could also just be a case of getting accustomed to it. If (like most folk) your old bra was big in the back and small in the cup then the old wires will have sat much further forward so the pressure points will be totally different and your skin will need a bit of time to adjust.

It's a bit like the first time you put flip flips on after months in sensible shoes - they invariable rub your feet where the straps are, or between the toe or wherever because you aren't used to them

EustaciaVye Tue 24-Dec-13 05:23:04

Thanks. I was wearing a 36g before but was bulging a bit. This is less of an issue now.

They are both Panache bras. Seem quite stiff so perhaps they will soften a bit.

Out of interest, what has everyone done with their old bras? I have about 20 blush good quality ones and am loathe to chuck them.

SorrelForbes Tue 24-Dec-13 08:19:36

Panache bras tend to be quite stiff. I've gently bent the wires on mine to follow the shape of my body.

Oxfam collect bras to donate to women in Africa.

EustaciaVye Tue 24-Dec-13 08:42:56

Thanks SorrelForbes. Will have a bit more wear and try that.

Any recommendations for good balconette bras in 36h? I used to like Freya and Panache but I am happy to try other brands to find the best fit.

SorrelForbes Tue 24-Dec-13 12:24:59

I love the Cleo range (Marcie, Lily, Bella, Melissa)

I'm a fan of cleo t oo, although i wish they had 3 hooks, and I think the bravissimo own brand bras generally have some very good balconettes too

SorrelForbes Tue 24-Dec-13 13:55:36

Yes, three hooks would be so much better. I love the style and colours of the Bravissimo own brand bras but alas, they are too shallow for me!

Anyway, off to change my bra as I've just realised the pattern (Cleo Lily) shows through my sparkly top!

arleta66 Tue 24-Dec-13 16:45:21

hi, thank you for the advice, have measured myself as per guide and under bust is 34.5 inches and round bust is 45 inches if I don't squash anything, which seems huge measurement.

arleta66 Tue 24-Dec-13 16:46:55

EustaciaVye, re old bras , If they are in very good condition sell them on ebay! smile

Arleta66, I would suggest starting with a 34G and working from there

rubybleu Tue 24-Dec-13 19:57:38

Can I please have some advice also. I've never really gotten along with bras and have always worn a 34B. I measured myself after reading this and discovered that my under bust was 28" and overbust 32.5". I'm an unusual shape - my shoulders are size 10 but my ribcage is 6/8 in clothing. My boobs are wide-spread and all the weight is at the bottom.

I popped into Bravissimo and they fitted me up as a 30D and sent me home with a Fantasie Rebecca bra. I've only worn it twice but the central gore is leaving me bruised and sore and I've got wrinkly underarm bulge (no rear bulge though). If I scoop everything in to deal with the underarm bulge (quite aggressively, moreso than the fitting) I get a bit of quad boob. Have I come home with the wrong size bra? And are properly fitting bras meant to be this painful?

arleta66 Tue 24-Dec-13 20:24:33

Hi thank you, strange as I had a couple of bras from M&s bought years and they were 34f as these just fitted better than the 36e in this style(t shirt bra without padding) these are the most comfy bras I own , but recently have put on about 5lbs and am v slightly over spilling now on cups. The article about back fat is brilliant, I thought I was having this problem because I needed to lose weight( I do a little) similar armpit fat, thought there was nothing to be done(except diet!). Does anyone rate any of the high st stores for bras?(not measuring) I am no where near Bravissimo branch.

arleta66 Tue 24-Dec-13 20:52:11

I know this is a slightly different direction but am now thinking about my daughter who is 10 and just started wearing a bra this year, I measured her round her ribs same way as I would do myself and she was 28 ins. So using the old system she would be a 32(which seems big for a little girl). However when I looked at these on her they were huge. so bought a 30AA, I didn't measure her round her bust as she only just needs a bra and there isn't much there yet, the bras I bought for her were M&S starter bra in cotton with soft cups and no padding. I will measure her again but using the correct way presumably she would be a 28 band size and a slightly bigger cup? realise this would be trial and error as this is different obviously with girls of this age. One of the other problems is a bra feels un comfy anyway after wearing crop tops, but have had to get her to tighten her bras to shortest hook after only a few weeks of wearing as they were riding up. Does anyone else have any experience with this please?

For buying bras the big department stores like debenhams, John Lewis etc generally have a good range if you know what to look for!

Ruby, that sounds like that bra isn't f or you. New bras can sometimes be a bit uncomfortable when they are brand new but not to the extent of bruising. I would go back to bravissimo. Their customer service is excellentand will change the bra even though it has been worn because they fitted it.

CallMeNancy Sat 28-Dec-13 20:28:58

I'm in the second one bought from Figleaves.

I can't keep getting the sizing wrong!

I normally wear a 38 GG, & ordered that, but the cups gaped slightly at the centre. So returned and reordered a 38g.

These too gape slightly at the centre, but also see a little taut in the middle top of the cup.

What size do I try now?

What are your measurements Nancy, and can you link to the bra you ordered? Gaping isn't always a size issue - it can just be that the bra isn't compatable with your breast shape

CallMeNancy Sat 28-Dec-13 20:46:25

Yay! Thanks for the quick reply superbralady smile

I bought this

Off to measure.

Don't say it's my boobs are the issue, as the pants are lovely!

CallMeNancy Sat 28-Dec-13 20:54:27

Hmm. Post Christmas pudding may be the issue. I now measure 40 and 52. fshock

Will have to name change to CallmeBigJugs.

I don't think they make that size do they?

how the feck can that be right?? Have double checked. Sadly it's right. How could the GG be gaping??

OK, as a start point that would be a 40HH, but it could be quite possible for you to need a 38 as those of us who are a little "squishy" quite often need a smaller band size than we measure. Can you pop the 38 on back to front please? This lets you appraise the band without the cups getting in the way and distorting how tight it feels.

The gaping, as I say, may well not be a size thing. It could just be that the particular bra doesn;t work with your breast shape. Look at them as objectively as possible - are they heavy on top or bottom, close set or wide set (ie how big is the gap in the middle), wide root or narrow root (i.e. how wide is the base of each boob) etc and I will try to suggest alternatives

CallMeNancy Sat 28-Dec-13 21:36:21

feeling very odd that I've just tried a bra on for a complete stranger

-backwards 38 is very comfortable. Torso is certainly squishy at the moment blush

Base of boobs are wide.
Not set far apart, 1cm at most at base.
Large triangles-ish grin

Whiteclouds Sat 28-Dec-13 21:39:16

Just marking my place!

OK, when you say the middle of the 38GG was you mean the middle of each cup? Were you filling the bottom of it, and was the central gore sitting against your chest or was that gaping?

Plus, final question - have you tried scooping with the bra on?

CallMeNancy Sat 28-Dec-13 21:52:14

Gore sitting flat in chest.
Had scooped fully. Always had to, even when young and perter blush

gore flat, & bra cup edge lifted on boob on top 1:3 towards gore. Fine from nipples to underarm in GG and G.

Bottom completely filled after scooping.

CallMeNancy Sat 28-Dec-13 21:52:31

BTW thanks!

That to me sounds more style related then. That bra is quite tall, and especially post babies, gravity etc etc (mine are the same!) tall bras can be a problem as you get gaping. BUt as you've seen you can't go down a size because then it's too small in the lower places and you get simultaneous gaping and spilling.

Have you tried something more balconette style, like alana, melissa or bella?

Fantasie bras also seem to point the wrong way for me - I'm very close set, and they seem to make me a bit sideways. I would suggest trying some different styles and different brands - fantasie (and freya, their sister range) have very wide wires so don't suit everyone.

CallMeNancy Sat 28-Dec-13 22:14:52

Oh no.

I have to sent the knickers back too.

I liked that bra!

What can I do to change the shape of my boobs? ok will try another bra, thank you so much for the help, what do I owe you?

CallMeNancy Sat 28-Dec-13 22:18:34

I could kiss you SC. The ones you linked to are all cheaper. I can buy 2 grin

off to buy them all

will be back in a week, asking for more help

CallMeNancy Sat 28-Dec-13 23:13:22

So, should I get 38GG in those styles linked, or 38H or HH?

Hmmm. Fantasie are generally big in the cup but I suspect that you are going to be someone who needs a smaller cup than they measure as on a 38 you theoretically need a j. I'd maybe try a few sizes-maybe 38gg and h in the cleo and h/ hh in the alana as it runs smaller. If you can I'd maybe order another cup up in both too as it's easier to spot too big than too small. Getting your size in new bras always takes a bit of trial and error. The first time I tried curvy Kate I ordered the same bra in six sizes!

outforawalkbitch Sun 29-Dec-13 11:15:21

I was measured at m&s as 36A. after advice on here, bought a 32D. loads more comfortable and flattering!

M&S - I do wish they would get a clue. There's a review of their "fitting" on the betterbracampaign blog site. The things they tried to tell me fitted were abysmal. 30HH/j and they tried to sell me a 36F

Spychic Mon 30-Dec-13 10:56:49

I have just read nearly the whole thread through and I feel like a light bulb has come on in my brain.

I measured 28 under, 37 on top... Is that 28G?

28 is hard to find isn't it? I'm not sure what I'm in now, but I hate all my bras. Also I am breastfeeding so that limits my choices even more!

Yup start with a 28g. They are harder to come by and you will find online ordering your new best friend. Bravissimo, , brastop, , mycurvesandme...There are lots out there. Bravissimo does several feeding bras in that size too

Spychic Mon 30-Dec-13 20:39:40

Cool, thanks Statistically! I will check those places out. I'm in Oz so hopefully returns will not be too expensive.

BlueHairedFreak Mon 30-Dec-13 20:43:25

Thank you ladies! You spurred me into taking my two not entirely enthusiastic teens to Bravissimo where they were treated very sensitively and emerged with well fitted bras. Of course, now I'm having to spend a small fortune but they're worth it!

SorrelForbes Mon 30-Dec-13 21:01:12

Wahoo! Good news indeed BlueHairedFreak. Hopefully they'll be set up for life, bra wise anyway grin

Now that you know sizing you can investigate some of the cheaper online options - brastop, mycurvesandme, amazon (honestly!), debenhams sale...

Hey SF! I have DH so well trained that he bought me a set from EM for christmas smile

MollyBerry Mon 30-Dec-13 21:18:08

I've done this before but iI'm confused - by something which I'm sure is very simple...

I'm 30.5 and 34.5 - would this be about a 30C? 30D?

start with 30D and 30DD

hello bra interveners, could I pick your brains please? I have measured 33 in band size and read that one should size down, but am currently wearing 36 so can't imagine wearing a 32 as am indeed squishy of torso- size 14. Around the cups I'm unsure really as it was cold in the bedroom when I measured so my nipp
es were rather more protruding than usual-do you think this would matter? Cups are measuring at 41in, I think this would put me at 32FF is that right? it just seems impossible! currently wearing 36d.

SorrelForbes Tue 31-Dec-13 16:21:13

Ok, your 36D has the same cup volume as a 32E. If you scoop whilst wearing your current bra do you get bulge or overspill?

SorrelForbes Tue 31-Dec-13 16:22:58

Sorry meant to say that your current bra band seems right because the cups are too small and your boons are stealing material from the band. I would suggest trying a 32FF/G and a 34F/FF.

DuffyMoon Tue 31-Dec-13 16:41:41

Can I ask something underband is 41 and "90 degree" measurement is 51. Now I am very fat and currently wear a 42 which I find too tight and constricting (and rolls up - assume this is a fat thing) Will using this method be more comfortable if the actual band size is same?

Thanks sorrel, I've scooped my boons grin and yes I think there would be overspill. currently though on the 36d there is gapage at the top of the cup,I suspect because my boobs are sort of wider than they are long if that makes sense?

SorrelForbes Tue 31-Dec-13 17:03:04

Oh dear, I must learn to preview before posting!

Aworryingtrend I suspect you need to try a balconette style. Is the 36D a moulded t-shirt type style? If so, these are very difficult to fit as they don't mould to your shape IYSWIM? Would you say you are wide set or are they more close together?

DuffyMoon I'd try a 40GG/H and even a 38H/HH as those with squidgier torsos can often need a tighter band than they measure to get the right support. What cup size are you currently wearing?

grin it made me laugh, I may refer to them as boons from now on! its a debenhams full cup style, also wearing sainsburys own full cup styles as balconette has previously given me major jiggle and arm pit fat but that maybe due to wrong size cup? Im definitely wide set. thank you so much for helping me!

muvril Tue 31-Dec-13 17:34:10

To all who have posted advice on bra interventions: THANK YOU SO MUCH smile smile smile

After years of being uncomfortable and lumpy in my 38A bras I came across this thread and went out and bought some 36D bras. I cant believe how much better I look and feel. The underarm and back bulges have almost gone! Some of the 34DDs that I tried on fitted nicely as well but I somehow couldn't bring myself to buy them as DD sounds so huge and 34 so small !

I did get fitted some years ago but was too humiliated to try again as the fitter said "you've got it all in the back but not in the front" and suggested buying bra inserts to "balance out your figure" so I just bought the 38A bras that she suggested and went away feeling like a misshapen lump sad

Cant believe I've been wearing the wrong bra size all these years!