is there any escaping daily hairwashing?

(56 Posts)
tumteetum Mon 22-Apr-13 11:19:14

I'm fed up of needing to wash and dry every day, is there any way to make your hair last longer between washing? I have very fine thin hair which easily looks lanky. I tried dry shampoo but doesnt seem to help much

infamouspoo Mon 22-Apr-13 11:27:11

a shorter cut? I used to do this but went for a much shorter cut and now can go days and it dries itself.

YoniLovesChachi Mon 22-Apr-13 11:30:15

Dry shampoo does work, but you have to make sure you rub it in thoroughly and then brush it so you don't end up with that chalky look. I don't like the way my hair feels when I've used it, but it definitely makes my hair look clean. The Charles Worthington one is my favourite, because it seems the powder is finer and the fragrance isn't very strong.

If I've tied my hair back on the day I wash it, it tends to be cleaner the next day, I assume because I'm not touching it so much and it doesn't pick up as much general grime.

tumteetum Mon 22-Apr-13 11:30:55

have actually been considering a drastic cut and was wondering if that would help. Have also noticed that having had a wash at the hairdressers, it can go longer without washing even though I use same shampoo. Why is that?

tumteetum Mon 22-Apr-13 11:34:46

I have tried dry shampoo regularly, both the baptiste one and charles worthington. It isnt so much the chalky look as it just still looks like needs washing. My sister has fab results with it but has put on me as she does on her and she agrees it just doesnt seem to help

YoniLovesChachi Mon 22-Apr-13 11:35:15

If I use a volumising product when I dry, it doesn't get greasy as quickly. Perhaps because the roots aren't in as much contact with my scalp so they don't pick up the oil as much. That might explain why a cut and blow at the hairdressers seems to make it look clean for longer, because they use some product and blow dry for lift/volume at the roots.

tumteetum Mon 22-Apr-13 11:37:32

That might be it Yoni, though I also sometimes use volumising products and even the hairdressers struggle to get much lift into my fine hair

FrugalFashionista Mon 22-Apr-13 11:42:08

Processing my hair (highlights - or perm in the 1990s wink ) texturize my fine hair and increase time between washes. Hair powder is great - many styling products and conditioners tend to weigh my hair down. I find upside down drying and upside down dry shampooing very good too.

tumteetum Mon 22-Apr-13 11:45:18

maybe should have highlights once cut then. I had a perm in my teens and didnt need so much washing then. I also notice my hair easily picks up smells eg if I have been cooking, horrible

Kikithecat Mon 22-Apr-13 11:56:04

Just dampen and blowdry the fringe/front?

tumteetum Mon 22-Apr-13 12:06:49

ts not so much the styling as it looks lanky,damping and blowdrying dont help

scripsi Mon 22-Apr-13 12:13:05

I noticed that my hair lasts longer when I have been to hairdressers too and then I realised that I put on more conditioner than they do which then seemed to weigh hair down. Could that be it?

tumteetum Mon 22-Apr-13 12:14:19

It could be, thats a good point. My hair tends to tangle, so I do tend to use a fair bit of conditioner

It's not good for your scalp to use dry shampoo regularly, it can block the pores up. Although I think if you use a loose one (I occasionally use use the Lush one) and rub it in with your fingers it is probably not as bad as blasting aerosols at the roots. I sympathise as I've never been able to go more than two days and it is long and takes ages to dry, I'm trying to get to three days at the moment.

I think keeping your fingers out of it really helps, but I find it hard, unless I wear it up. I have also just started making sure I keep the conditioner away from the scalp and use it on the lengths of the hair only, that does seem to help a bit, also only using product on the longer parts.

scripsi Mon 22-Apr-13 12:18:04

Well it makes the world of difference to me. I used to use lots of detangler/rich conditioner but now I use my tangleteezer brush and only a little bit of conditioner on the ends. It means that my hair is much bouncier.
A lot of conditioner has silicon in, which seems to really attract dirt too and that might also be the root your food-smells problem.

Jacksterbear Mon 22-Apr-13 12:18:23

Watching with interest: I have very fine hair too and it looks shit if I don't wash it every day. Dry shampoo, tie back, and straighten the fringe is my emergency measure for doing the school run when I haven't had time to wash it!

scripsi Mon 22-Apr-13 12:19:36

Also why not try a clarifying shampoo (I think T Gel do one?) to get rid of any product/conditioner build up, and then start with the minimal conditioner routine?

Longdistance Mon 22-Apr-13 12:19:49

Batiste dry shampoo. Love that stuff.

Gerrof Mon 22-Apr-13 12:22:13

I think just stick to washing it every day.

I have tried things over the years but my hair looks appalling if I don't wash it. I think it is just one of those things you just have to deal with if you have shite fine hair.

Gerrof Mon 22-Apr-13 12:23:07

Batiste I find it OK if you wear hair up, but then only for half a day. I look at myself at 2pm and wish I had just taken the extra time to wash it. it doesn't look dirty, just lank and grim.

OhDearNigel Mon 22-Apr-13 12:25:09

Grow it and tie it up ?

eatmydust Mon 22-Apr-13 12:28:16

I've very fine hair-but a lot of it iyswim. Have started having Kerastraight every 5 months, and now can go from washing and styling daily to every 3 days.

Don't think it works for everybody, and is better if your hair is a bit wavy, but might be worth speaking to a salon about. I just regret I didn't start doing it earlier.

gindrinker Mon 22-Apr-13 12:33:25

I alternate between just washed hair down and next day tied up.
If I'm being particularly manky I'll just wash my fringe and blow dry it...

I totally avoid silicone containing conditioners and products and don't suffer with food smells, so that might be a good point.

SIlly question but does Kerastraight straighten your hair or just smooth it?? Mine is wavy and I wouldn't want to do anything that straightened it, I like my waves.

tumteetum Mon 22-Apr-13 12:35:09

My hair is already long Ohdearnigel, and oftem tied up. Still looks lanky
What is kerastraight?. I have no wave at all

MrsCampbellBlack Mon 22-Apr-13 12:37:33

I'm with gerrof - its the curse of fine hair that it does need daily washing in my opinion.

I also use very little conditioner and swap shampoos a lot as my hair seems to get used to them very quickly.

tumteetum Mon 22-Apr-13 12:40:54

Will def try going easy on the conditioner. The products I use at the moment do have silicones in but have used ones without in the past and dont recall a difference. Might be worth another go though. But sounds like I might just have to get on with it. To be fair thats what Ive done for the last 40 odd years

eatmydust Mon 22-Apr-13 12:42:28

The kerastraight hasn't taken my waves away - but had defrizzed it a bit. That's what I was most worried about the first time I had it done, as I didn't want to lose the waves, just make them last more than a day!!

OP - Kerastraight is like a brazilian blow dry. There are a few products out there, although some of the cheaper ones you can get online are apparantly a bit nasty. It isn't permanent but lasts a few months. A lot of salons now offer Kerastraight or a similar alternative.

Gerrof Mon 22-Apr-13 12:43:20

No, I wouldn't stop using the silicone stuff. I did try that but went straight back to frizz heaven and looked like a character in a Danielle Steel TV movie from the 80s.

Need the silicone to get rid of the frizz.

Agree swapping and changing shampoos and conditioners all the time helps.

Nagoo Mon 22-Apr-13 12:49:23

yy to changing shampoo and would add that rinsing for super long time helps me.

scripsi Mon 22-Apr-13 12:50:45

I could never totally get rid of silicon but I do limit where I put silicon containing stuff so that just the ends of hair get it.

MrsCampbellBlack Mon 22-Apr-13 12:54:27

Yes rinsing very well after shampooing and before conditioning and never let your get in bath water either.

I use the philip kingsley volumising spray which is pretty good too.

We're about to get compulsorily water metered so I think rinsing for a super long time is going to get expensive sad.

Eatmy - I will ask my hairdresser about the Kerastraight, see what she thinks, thanks.

Absy Mon 22-Apr-13 13:03:43

Do you use conditioner all over your hair, or just on the roots?

I have fine hair and used to have to wash it every day, but kind of trained it out of that habit by using dry shampoo on the non wash days (I like the klorane one, the non aerosal version) and now only wash it every two days. I find it stays cleaner/less greasy for longer if I blow dry it (otherwise after around 36 hours it starts to look hideous) and I use the Bumble and Bumble volumising spray. Now it's starting to get to the point where it looks alright-ish on day 3! result!

popsnsqeeze Mon 22-Apr-13 13:04:51

Since I've started only using a tiny bit of conditioner on only the ends of my hair it really doesn't get greasy as fast.

treaclesoda Mon 22-Apr-13 13:05:46

I have also found that avoiding silicone has made a massive difference to how often I need to wash my hair. The downside is that my hair doesn't look as good as it used to when I used silicone. It is a dilemma - clean looking hair that doesn't sit as well, or dirty looking hair that sits quite nicely. What to do?

My other recommendation is, have you considered pregnancy? During my pregnancies were the only times in my adult life when my hair stayed clean and bouncy and fresh for days at a time. Bit of a drastic solution though grin

Plathism Mon 22-Apr-13 14:08:11

Less conditioner - just put it on the ends, or ideally don't use any in the shower, just use a few squirts of detangling leave-in spray. It makes a HUGE difference not having a heavy layer of conditioner over your fine hair. Companies convince us that conditioner is essential, but really it's only necessary if you have damaged or coarse hair.

Don't use a 'moisturising' shampoo or one for damaged hair - use something like Aussie Mega or a clarifying one so the hair's not weighed down. Don't add lots of product like heat protector, wax etc (obviously!)

Try washing it every other day and once your scalp gets used to that it won't be greasy on the second day. Probably.... it depends how fine the hair is and how greasy your scalp is. If it's very fine and straight and very greasy, then daily hairwashing is probably what's going to make it look its best.

tumteetum Mon 22-Apr-13 14:19:23

Pregnancy would definately be a bit too drastic, been there done that!

tumteetum Mon 22-Apr-13 14:19:40

Thanks for all suggestions

Startail Mon 22-Apr-13 14:20:31

It's why mine is a past my shoulders mop and at well over 40 is staying that way.

If it's short it needs washing every 5 mins.

Plathism Mon 22-Apr-13 14:21:23

That's all based on my experience with my own hair btw, which is fine and tends to go flat easily, but it's wavy and there's quite a lot of it. I never straighten it because that takes any volume out completely.

Plathism Mon 22-Apr-13 14:24:02

Oh and make sure hairdressers aren't cutting loads of layers into it! They have a tendency to want to cut away half my hair, leaving the ends all thin and wispy hmm Blunt cuts are better for fine hair. Hairdressers say layers will 'give it movement' but wtf does that mean? My hair moves fine, stop chopping all the thickness out of it!

Rant over.

Fluffycloudland77 Mon 22-Apr-13 14:29:35

I noticed that my hair stays clean longer after the hairdressers too, I also noticed that they give it a damn good hard scrub with their finger tips.

So, I do too now and it does look nice for longer. I put a bit of conditioner near the roots too.

I also rinse and repeat.

littlepeas Mon 22-Apr-13 14:40:12

A hairdresser once explained this to me! You need to shampoo twice, as the first one just gets it going, opens the pores up, etc where as the second one really cleans it. She told me something about the conditioner too, but I've forgotten that bit (I think it may have ben just using it from mid lengths down). I followed her advice and got my hair down from every day to every other day - it takes a little while to adjust, so you may feel a bit greasy on the second day for a week or so, but then it is fine. I actually prefer it on the second day now, as it is more manageable. I have fine, but voluminous, hair.

Yes, I notice every now and then that my shampoo isn't really lathering (I uses SLS free ones so they aren't too lathery anyway). When this happens I do a double shampoo and it really does perk it up, hadn't thought about doing it regularly.

I also find that the part which gets greasiest is the lower back part of my head, which is also the hardest to get right to the roots with because of all the long hair covering it, so fingertips in for a good scrub there helps mine too.

Plathism Mon 22-Apr-13 14:45:23

I find that too littlepeas - I much prefer my second day hair now! It's shinier and doesn't have that fluffy flyaway just washed texture.

BackforGood Mon 22-Apr-13 14:55:06

I tend to think that the more you wash it, the more it needs washing - as if you stimulate the gease or something. Why not try for about 3 weeks, just washing every 2nd day, then every 3rd day and see if it becomes better once your scalp is used to that.

ExcuseTypos Mon 22-Apr-13 15:03:45

I've just finished my first bottle of Liz Earle shampoo.

It was free and tbh didn't think it would be great for my fine hair as its for all hair types. However I've found it very good, my hair hasn't needed to be washed every day, it doesn't seem as greasy. I've just ordered another bottle and will see how it goes as, at the moment I think it's too good to be true.

valiumredhead Mon 22-Apr-13 17:32:55

Try just using conditioner on the ends?

teacher123 Mon 22-Apr-13 18:57:53

I have this problem too, when I was pregnant and then breastfeeding I had gorgeous hair that I only needed to wash every 4 days!!! It never got greasy was glossy and beautiful. Now DS is a year I am back to grease monkey status and I HATE it. I also have a new job which requires a very early start for me and DS and washing and drying my hair on my work mornings isn't really feasible... Am also skint at the moment so buying expensive products which is usually my favourite pastime is not an option. However I just bought some Alberto balsam stuff that is bright green and dirt cheap and touch wood seems to be doing the trick!

Some one on here recommended Hairfix to me and it is AMAZING. I have fine long hair and it gets greasy really really fast. The 3 step system has made a huge difference to my hair - am currently on day 3 and while I could have done with a wash this morning, it's not a total greaseball as normal.

There is a no lather release/clarifying wash then a shampo and a conditioner (special one for fine hair). Hair is soft, smooth and squeaky clean.
I only use the release once a week but the shampoo and conditioner are brill and I use them each time I wash my hair (along with one wash of PK itchy scalp shampoo).

Now a holy grail product for me - they do tester sizes so you can try it out before spending £££

twentythirteen Mon 22-Apr-13 23:03:36

Go on holiday? I find being in hot dry countries is great and I can go for days without becoming greasy whereas in England my hair has a 36 hour window. Or colour it? I used to be able to go two or three days bewteen washed when I coloured my hair!

(sorry no reasonable suggestions but looks like you've had a few of those already! wink)

RustyBear Mon 22-Apr-13 23:08:57

For me, the only thing that worked was getting older... My hair gets far less greasy now, not sure if it's menopause hormones or the change in texture now there's much more grey in it.

PessimisticMissPiggy Mon 22-Apr-13 23:13:02

I used to wash everyday but after a couple of weeks I stretched to two days and now I can go three days with the help of batiste. Partly I think my scalp, hair has got used to it and also my hair is getting more grey.

I have a long bob and fiddle with it all day long.

WallyBantersYoniBox Mon 22-Apr-13 23:15:46

I was stuck in a daily hair wash cycle, and have very fine hair (but volumes of it).

I now wash my hair twice a week, and it's definitely improved the general condition of my scalp too.

Agree with a lot of the different bits of advice.

I only shampoo the scalp with my fingertips, and let the lather rinse through the remaining length to clean it. I never put shampoo anywhere but the scalp.

In reverse I never condition the scalp or first few inches only the ends.

The rule for conditioner I've been told is no more than a 10p piece blob in your palm. If you rub these together in your palms it goes a long way.

I try once a week to let my hair dry naturally without heating up my scalp. I do this before bed, and then straighten in the morning. I've stopped using the straightners close to my head. I think the heat brings out the oils tbh, bringing the lankiness.

The condition will come back if to can try and prolong the washes and let your hair find it's natural oil level I think.

tumteetum Tue 23-Apr-13 09:42:07

Loads of good suggestions guys, thanks

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