Calling all HOC winters.....

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QueenCadbury Sun 21-Apr-13 09:21:05

So, I had my colours done yesterday and I am now a sprinter winter. My best colours being royal blue, electric blue, damson, lagoon blue and light emerald.

Of course a shopping trip is now required grin so I'm just after any inspiration by what you fellow winters have recently bought...

HeyLuciani Sun 21-Apr-13 15:35:15

Hi Queen C - marking my place as I had mine done yesterday too! Also winter, my best colours are Indigo, Royal purple+blue, lobelia, damson, carmine and emeralds.

Had a wardrobe clear out last night - I had a lot of colour in there, but mostly not right (lots of cream, heathers and muted greens etc). However, now I have emptied out all the wrong colours all I seem to have left are the basics of winter - black, white, grey, navy, burgundy..........which is a bit depressing grin, so I need to add some more of my new colours.

Interested to see what others have added for summer. I love the bright winter jewel colours for evening wear....but can't quite get my head round the bright blues/purples/pinks for day time, especially for holiday/beach wear confused.........think that my holiday look might be Rivera-ish with indigo/navy and white and a bit of red thrown in, but not sure - would like to know what looks other winters come up with at this time of year?

JennySense Sun 21-Apr-13 15:47:13

I am trying navy/white/grey for summer neutrals with pops of red, fuschia, hot turquoise. I also add silver in the mix too.
I love being a winter smile

Spikeinhiscoat Sun 21-Apr-13 16:00:22

I love the winter colours (am a sultry winter, get me smile), but my wardrobe is looking a bit sparse for summer. I have had lots of creams/stone/beige which I can now see aren't great for me. I don't have much money to get more stuff, so I'll be watching this thread with interest.

QueenCadbury Sun 21-Apr-13 16:48:30

Hi fellow winters, good to hear from you. I've gone through my wardrobe and although what I have isn't too bad, I can see that I have muted shades of blue/green/purple rather than the vibrant jewel tones. I was convinced i was a summer as I'm blonde hence why I've always bought muted stuff.

Going shopping tomorrow so will report back if I buy anything. I have a vague idea of what I want but I'm just going to mainly see what I can find in my colours.

You're going shopping without me!

(are you going to buy new lipstick?)

QueenCadbury Sun 21-Apr-13 19:45:22

queen I'd hardly call it shopping when I have a 22m old in tow! I've mainly got to take some stuff back and will have a look around. Haven't found much online so far to inspire me. Will pm you to arrange a date.

And no, I'm not buying a new lippy. Dh will just have to get used to me looking like an old lady grin

Abouttime Sun 21-Apr-13 20:22:27

So glad I've seen this thread-had mine done last week & I'm a winter jewel so emerald, navy, carmine, lobelia.

Have also done the wardrobe clear out but I'm struggling to make 3 colours work together.

Will have to take a 23 month old shopping with me so it won't be easy.

practicality Sun 21-Apr-13 20:50:17

Can we have some lipstick recommendations?

Levantine Sun 21-Apr-13 21:51:05

Soap and glory Pom Pom is a very nice dark pink

Spikeinhiscoat Mon 22-Apr-13 06:40:13

I got some HoC lipsticks from the woman who colour analysed me, and I think they're great, the colours last a really long time so I don't need to keep reapplying them. The one I use most is 512, a slightly dark red, but I also have a brighter red, and a really bright pink, which when I saw it, I thought it wasn't me, but it works when it is on (makes my eyes brighter, and the lipstick somehow doesn't seem as bright).

Like abouttime says, I struggle to do three colours together I don't have enough clothes , but I tend to use a neutral (black, charcoal grey) and one of my better colours (emerald green, scarlet) as a top.

QueenCadbury Mon 22-Apr-13 07:56:10

I spent far too much time last night putting together a Pinterest board winter colour palette. I just love the colours so much!

PenfoldRocks Mon 22-Apr-13 14:15:54

If you don't mind me asking, where did you get your colours done? How did you find a consultant (if that's the right term?)

Plathism Mon 22-Apr-13 15:52:14

I love your Winter colour board QueenCadbury!

I had my colours done recently too and am also a Winter - my best colours are pretty much the same as yours, but I don't remember being called a 'sprinter winter'. What is that, a winter with spring elements? Do you have dark hair, dark eyes and very pale skin (like me)?

Practicality my favourite lipsticks are: Revlon Lip Butter in Red Velvet (deep red) and Berry Smoothie (medium dark pink), Chanel Coco Shine Romance (barbie pink but looks really natural on a Winter), Chanel Coco Shine in Fiction (blue-toned pomegranate).

Plathism Mon 22-Apr-13 15:54:54

And on the whole combining three colours thing...I don't actually think that looks very good. I much prefer just two colours together, or maximum three if two of those are neutrals (eg today I'm wearing grey skinny jeans with an indigo jumper and black shoes).

Plathism Mon 22-Apr-13 15:58:15

Er sorry, I've just remembered you are blonde OP...maybe that's why you're a sprinter and I'm not smile I did read the thread, I just forgot!

CarolBornAMan Mon 22-Apr-13 16:32:06

I am a Winter as well and recently bought this - never owned a green thing in life and was complimented on this - wore it with red lipstick - Bobbi Brown Red Carpet and purple shoes .. really liked it so looking for more green - I do get a lot of stuff from this site - the reds are usually very good Emerald Green Dress

withjamin Mon 22-Apr-13 17:26:02

I'm another winter- want at all sure about consultant's verdict so went back again- still borderline winter-summer but just edging to winter. I'm wearing a lot of raspberry, grey and white atm. The Canadian 12 blueprints site has good advice re combinations of colours but their categories don't match HoC, i.e. I'm probably a true summer in their system.
Lipsticks- boots no 7 bb lips in berry rose, clinique chubby stuck in super strawberry, bourjois rouge edition in violine strass (my current favourite) & fuchsia graffiti.

QueenCadbury Mon 22-Apr-13 20:41:30

Well I managed a fair amount of shopping considering I had a toddler in tow although quite a lot is going back as seeing them in the true light at home they're not quite the right colour and/or don't mix in with my wardrobe like I'd hoped.

However the keepers are blue tshirt, pink cardigan which is better than it looks online and pink shoes. Undecided about tee as although the colour is right it needs to be nearer my face. I've also just ordered this Chinese blue scarf.

plathism yes I am blonde so it was a bit of a shock (a very pleasant one though). I was always convinced I was a summer.

The lipstick I bought is the house of colour one in red 499. It's a bit scary though!

penfold I did it with house of colour. If you go to their website you can find a consultant near you. I had mine done in Exeter.

QueenCadbury Mon 22-Apr-13 20:45:25

carol meant to say that I love that dress!

QueenCadbury Mon 22-Apr-13 20:50:48

luciani I've got loads of navy in my wardrobe which is why I bought the pink shoes as it's amazing how they lift the whole outfit. I was also after a coloured belt and found an emerald one in next (not online so can't link) but I don't like it at home. Would like a red one (although not to wear with pink shoes at same time!)

Plathism Mon 22-Apr-13 22:07:32

All lovely stuff Queen, I think I need to go to DPs for some t-shirts now... I'm after a cobalt blue maxi skirt to wear with a short tshirt if any one sees one on their winter travels smile

QueenCadbury Tue 23-Apr-13 10:25:01

Didn't see any maxi skirts on my travels but wasn't really looking for bottoms <helpful>. I meant to say that h&m seemed to have a lot of emerald tops but not the sort that suit me unfortunately. I really rate the tees at DP as they tend to wash well and they're a good cheap way to get used to the new colours. I think shopping will be much easier once winter comes as we'll probably find the true jewel colours then.

LakeFlyPie Mon 29-Apr-13 20:45:22

Another Winter here smile
Have been lurking on your thread and thought I should report my indigo and emerald Cable and Gauge knitwear finds in TK Maxx last weekend, perfect colours for me.
I've also recently found a lovely Phase Eight dress in a beautiful purple/ blue, sorry can't link as am on phone, think it was called Martha. There were also a couple of beautiful emerald green dresses but were no good for my fat arse pear shape.

QueenCadbury Mon 29-Apr-13 21:35:52

Hi lake, I think I saw those dresses at the weekend whilst shopping with my mum and they are gorgeous colours. Sadly my lifestyle (SAHM) doesn't lend itself well to dresses like that grin.

Dh still needs convincing about the red lipstick I got from my consultation so I'm just ordering a pink from there, number 62. Will check out the other recommendations too.

QueenCadbury Mon 29-Apr-13 21:38:22

This is my new extravagant purchase. I'm really enjoying wearing white. For some reason I always thought that it looked too stark but actually can see that it works.

LakeFlyPie Wed 01-May-13 22:46:16

Lovely top QC, I like wearing white too, but have to pick my moments with 2 DSs under 5 grin

I made a couple of 'Winter' purchases in Gap yesterday, a cobalt trench coat and an emerald green blazer, which annoyingly I can't find online to link a pic.

Just need some trousers which aren't jeans and the Holy Grail, which for me is smart but comfortable shoes which I can wear to walk for miles, at speed!

Any recommendations for wedge sandals or flats would be gratefully received, I lived in filthy Birkenstocks last year, but would like to smarten things up if possible this spring / summer

JennyWren Wed 01-May-13 23:26:43

I've recently had my colours done and I am a jewel winter. I'm happily ordering summer stuff online - I'm returning most of it, as I can't possibly afford it all, but I'm very excited about buying some summer clothes as I normally find summer very difficult and I've been putting off buying things until I had my colours done. I was pretty sure before I went that I was either a summer or a winter but always seem to get it wrong in hot weather - cold weather clothes are much easier for me to get right.

I really like this dress (it is surprisingly flattering on me) and I have picked out some navy flats and some navy and white peep-toe wedge espadrilles that I love.

Like HeyLuciani I am thinking navy and white... I am putting together a warm weather capsule wardrobe based around navy and grey cropped/ankle grazer trousers and (mostly white) tops, but I am keen to add some colour in there as well. I would like some 100% cotton/cotton-with-a-bit-of-elastane tops that are short/half-sleeved but I'm struggling to find anything I like that isn't white.

I'm also having a terrible time looking for scarves - I would quite like some patterned ones in jewel winter colours. Has anyone found any??? Everything I see is pastels. I normally only wear scarves as winter neck-warmers, so this is a bit of an adventure for me blush.

JennyWren Wed 01-May-13 23:30:19

I've recently had my colours done and I am a jewel winter. I'm happily ordering summer stuff online - I'm returning most of it, as I can't possibly afford it all, but I'm very excited about buying some summer clothes as I normally find summer very difficult and I've been putting off buying things until I had my colours done. I was pretty sure before I went that I was either a summer or a winter but always seem to get it wrong in hot weather - cold weather clothes are much easier for me to get right.

I really like this dress (it is surprisingly flattering on me) and I have picked out some navy flats and some navy and white peep-toe wedge espadrilles that I love.

Like HeyLuciani I am thinking navy and white... I am putting together a warm weather capsule wardrobe based around navy and grey cropped/ankle grazer trousers and (mostly white) tops, but I am keen to add some colour in there as well. I would like some 100% cotton/cotton-with-a-bit-of-elastane tops that are short/half-sleeved but I'm struggling to find anything I like that isn't white.

I'm also having a terrible time looking for scarves - I would quite like some patterned ones in jewel winter colours. Has anyone found any??? Everything I see is pastels. I normally only wear scarves as winter neck-warmers, so this is a bit of an adventure for me blush.

JennyWren Wed 01-May-13 23:33:02

Oops - I didn't mean to post twice. Sorry everyone!

LakeFlyPie Wed 01-May-13 23:56:33

Another lovely dress Jenny Wren, my sister bought a similar one recently from Fat Face which was very flattering due to empire line shape.

I really like the espadrilles you linked to, leather lined suggests comfort, are they?
If there is a seam or slightly tight edge they will be guaranteed to shred my feet. Not sure what is wrong with my sensitive trotters but I really struggle with most shoes, can't even manage Clarks ballet flats FFS!

I saw a few jewel scarfs in Gap and TK Maxx always have loads so might be worth a look there.

BeattieBow Thu 02-May-13 06:24:11

I'm a sultry winter too! Have spent rather too much money on my colours - I've bought a lot of navy and white (wore a white t shirt to work yesterday and spilt coffee on it within minutes grrr) and like Jenny am intending to wear Pops (!) of colour with it. I've found a couple of lovely tops in Jigsaw in light pink and blue. they have lots of nice things in there (expensive though). And also I got a sparkly mauve jumper in the sale from Whistles. These are colours I would never have worn, but the ice blue/lilac/pink/mint colours all came up as starred ones for me.

I'm looking for more royal blue/lobellia and raspberry stuff now - so will try dotty p's and Gap. I bought some linen t shirts in zara but they're too see through for me.

i also want some skirts.

oh and make up. What are you all wearing on your nails and lips? I did buy some of the HoC lippy, but it is just too pink on me. I feel like Cheryl Cole when I wear it. and not very appropriate for my lifestyle. So I want something less bright I think.

I love being a winter too!

Hopefully Thu 02-May-13 06:51:55

Jennie that Crew dress is lovely.

Beattie as a Winter if you go too soft/pale/nude in lipsticks you'll very quickly look washed out, but there are lots of shades to play with if the one you have feels too pink. I quite often have clients over just to try on some shades, even if they don't want to buy - perhaps your consultant would let you pop round to try on a few lipsticks...

Who was looking or t-shirts? On phone and can't remember! Have you checked kettlewell?

Winter is so the best season. Sorry hopefully. Am jealous of those of you who can do the ice pastels - think I got one tick at 25% for all of them, except ice pink for some reason.

MadAboutHotChoc Thu 02-May-13 09:39:52

Love that trench coat from the Gap. I found loads of cheap scarves on ebay by typing in the colour I wanted in the search button -this is a good one for summer scarves.

QueenCadbury Thu 02-May-13 13:32:00

lake I'm in love with that trench. I would have always gone for navy but now I'm really tempted...

I already owned a bobbi brown gloss in pink raspberry which seems a good colour and not too vivid so great for daytime. If you've got long hair though which blows about it sticks to it though!

JennyWren Thu 02-May-13 23:19:49

LakeFlyPie The espadrilles are really comfy - I've had to send them back and change to a bigger size, but already I can feel that they're going to be brilliant. They have a funny kind of pad under the ball of the foot which felt strange when I first put on the shoe but when you get used to it being there all you feel is cushioning.

Hopefully I was looking for t-shirts. I ordered a couple from Kettlewell and although I've kept them they're a bit viscose-y and I'm not keen enough to order more. I'll keep looking though.

LakeFlyPie Sat 04-May-13 22:47:26

Sold Jenny, they're in my virtual shopping basket right now, thanks for the persuasion smile
Just invested in a dark navy denim Hobbs skirt which should work with them too.

I got some Kettlewell tops last year (the V neck 3/4 sleeve ones) and have been rather underwhelmed by them.
They're OK and have washed quite well but the colours aren't amazing and they are very viscose-y.

Re lipstick I'm really impressed with the Revlon lip butters which I got following a previous MN thread.
I got red velvet, raspberry pie and berry smoothie and love all of them.
My lips can get very dry and I find the colours very wearable and the texture moisturising.

I have a Bourjois Lovely Rouge 'rouge best 15' which I think should be the right tone for me but it's so very pigmented I can't get my head around wearing it, am sticking to lip butters for now grin

Mashedupbanana Mon 06-May-13 18:55:04

Newly diagnosed winter here too (winter jewel) so watching for any other suggestions. I will try the lip butters and bobbi brown one too to get started grin

LakeFlyPie Wed 08-May-13 22:13:36

Did a quick fly by the shops today, didn't have time for a proper trawl but can report that Gap have lots of stuff in cobalt blue and navy (dresses, trousers, skirts and t shirts).

Fat Face have a sale with some lovely navy and white stuff including the dress I linked up thread, which is reduced to £25 my DSis will be cursing but sadly wasn't flattering enough to persuade me to make a purchase

QueenCadbury Thu 09-May-13 16:41:32

The cobalt colours in gap are lovely. Just a shame that the dresses made me look like a sack of spuds grin.

I went into a local boutique today and found a scarlet cardigan. Wow, it is bright! I'm so used to wearing muted tones that bright ones suddenly seem really in your face.

My hoc number 62 lipstick is here but haven't had a chance to try it properly yet but will report back when I do.

mashed how are you getting on with your colours? Was it a shock being a winter?

JennySense Thu 09-May-13 21:14:53

Popping by to say I bought two Mac lippies last week - good old Ruby Woo and Girl About Town [bright pink]
Also, for those of you looking for scarves, I took a chance here:
www.amazon.co.uk/gp/browse.html?ie=UTF8&marketplaceID=A1F83G8C2ARO7P&me=ABW6X8XKJPIUK
I actually bought their seconds and the scarves are fine for throwing round your neck over a coat and around £1.50 a go

Hopasholic Thu 09-May-13 22:24:35

I remember my Dsis having his done in the '80's! Is it a good idea? I have 4 heaving wardrobes full of clothes and end up wearing the same old thing. Just looked it up and there's a consultant at the end of my road!

( no indication how much she charges though....)

Mashedupbanana Thu 09-May-13 22:27:27

Thanks for the tips. Big shock to be a winter as I'm blonde and never normally go for brights at all. I'm very excited by it though... In fact I am going to the style day this weekend now! grin Has anyone else had the style day?

Maraki Fri 10-May-13 11:48:46

What a fantastic thread! I've been struggling to come to terms with going back to my natural hair colour after 20+ years of highlighting, vibrant lipsticks, and clearing out my favourite teals, corals, beige and chocolate clothes...

So, lipsticks:
mac lady bug a red that is less bright than ruby roo
mac plumful another lustre lipstick from mac in bright plum
mac lustering a sheer bright fluorescent fuschia for summer
HOC 54 damson my best lipstick ever

Blushers:
bobbi brown maui although called 'illuminating brozing powder'' this is actually a lovely cool pink bronzer with a tiny hint of shimmer that gives me cheekbones
B34 HOC as I am a burnished winter. Goes well with all red lipsticks

masheupbannana if anyone has done the style day, let us know if it was worth it

By the way, I recently bought these and I love them:
great navy top in next
versatile Gap cobalt blue dress

Maraki Fri 10-May-13 11:53:50

I am also thinking that clinique chubby stick in peony will be my next purchase

QueenCadbury Fri 10-May-13 14:25:29

hopsasholic it's £99 but well worth it.

mashed I haven't done the style day although definately would if I returned to work but at the moment as a SAHM with a toddler I don't feel I need it.

I think I may have mentioned further up thread about how scary the bright red lipstick is and how dh hates it. I was having a play around last night and it definately needs a strong look to go with it. I always thought go natural on the eyes if wearing bright lips but on me it needs eyeliner and lashings of mascara and also looks best wearing a strong colour top like black or red.

Hopasholic Fri 10-May-13 14:54:03

Thanks Queen Is it to show which kind of make-up tones suit your colouring or clothes (or both?)

Napoleon66 Fri 10-May-13 15:55:09

Hi there,
I recently bought MAC Russian Red a strong blue red and Chanel Rouge Allure in Palpitante (102) a slightly pinkier brighter red. I'm very happy with both.

pollygolightly Fri 10-May-13 19:23:23

Hi, delurking as also a winter. Love this thread!

Someone wanted cobalt blues maxi skirts? Primark has some if you don't mind shopping there.

QueenCadbury Fri 10-May-13 20:48:53

hops basically you sit there with no makeup on, hair scraped back so looking about as bad as possible. The consultant will then drape lots of coloured scarves around you firstly to work out whether you are better in cool or warm tones and will then work you out to be a season (either spring or autumn if warm or summer or winter if cool). It really is amazing seeing how different colours have such an effect on how you look but with the right colours you just look more alive. You also get to try out lipsticks and given basic make up advice. You get a wallet with swatches of your colours in which get scored to which ones are best for you. It really is well worth the money. I love the prescriptiveness of knowing what is right or wrong and when I go shopping you can zone in on just your colours.

Maraki Fri 17-May-13 09:54:21

Good morning fellow winters!
I just wanted to share that I bought a cobalt blue top yesterday for a tenner from good old H&M. It's long and loose, so it looks great with skinnies and hides my mummy tummy and wide hips wink

JennySense Fri 17-May-13 13:32:31

Nice colour but pockets on my norks are a no, no for me!

Levantine Fri 17-May-13 14:29:05

Lovely but pockets no good for me either

I saw someone in a pale grey jumper with a grass green blazer the other day and thought what a great colour combo for winters. I am strictly navy, denim and black and am bored of it.

Bought a lovely pink t shirt in toast sale. They had a grass green one but it had sold out

Levantine Fri 17-May-13 18:37:29

Just looking at kettle well colours and saw that grass green is not a winter colour. I seem to be going a little off piste.

LakeFlyPie Fri 17-May-13 21:28:18

Levantine I think it depends on the shade of your grass grin
I got an emerald green Gap blazer and have a cardigan in same colour from TKMaxx and think they're perfect bright, clear colours for me.
Works well with navy too.
Some of the Kettlewell colours are a bit softer in tone IME so maybe their grass is a bit warm and summery!

QueenCadbury Fri 17-May-13 21:43:08

I'm desperate for something emerald as there's a real green hole in my wardrobe but I just haven't found anything suitable yet. I'm hoping come winter there may be more about.

maraki great colour, but like the others the pockets would not suit me.

I found a great damson coloured top in a charity shop the other day. I'm really after some coloured belts at the moment to lift my more neutral outfits. If anyone comes across any decent quality (preferably leather) with a silver buckle do let me know.

fruitcorner Fri 17-May-13 23:36:24

COS had some lovely emerald coloured cardigans and other bits when I went in the other day. Gap have an emerald green blazer too.

QueenCadbury Sat 18-May-13 07:29:42

Ooh thanks fruit. I will check cos out. Never think to look at them online. Unfortunately blazers don't look great on me. I'm strictly a cardi girl!

QueenCadbury Mon 20-May-13 17:56:49

Went for a browse today and thought I'd report back. Gap have some light emerald jumpers and oasis have a royal blue cardigan (neither are on line to link). Mango also still have the electric blue cardi that I bought last year. This belt is a Chinese blue colour.

What I actually was browsing for was a pink top or dress for dm birthday but couldn't find anything I liked.

fruit I like that cos cardi online but will wait till I go somewhere that has a store. In the meantime I'm going to attempt to dye a couple of cardigans that I have as they're 95% cotton so hopefully should work ok.

MadAboutHotChoc Tue 21-May-13 11:45:44

H&M have cardigans in a wide range of winter colours.

Maraki Thu 23-May-13 14:30:13

Look what I've found here! A perfect selection of MAC eyeshadows and blushers from MAC for us Winters smile

QueenCadbury Thu 23-May-13 21:15:02

Those eye colours scare me grin

Maraki Thu 23-May-13 22:33:22

I agree the colours remind me of parots, but I love the neutral palettes!

QueenCadbury Thu 23-May-13 22:45:11

I think I may need to try purple again. I remember trying it probably some time in the 80s and it looked like I had a black eye.

Anyone else do purple eyeshadow?

Maraki Fri 24-May-13 07:23:45

Deep dark purple eyeshadow looks great with my dark brown eyes. I blend it with dark grey for a smoky eye, but not this time of the year, it just looks wrong.

Parisisalwaysagoodidea Fri 24-May-13 09:20:50

I do purple eyeshadow and eyeliner as my 'smoky eye'. I have green eyes and it makes them look very bright. Not too much under the eye though as it blends in with my dark circles!

QueenCadbury Fri 24-May-13 11:43:00

Ok you've inspired me. Next time I'm in boots I shall check out purple eye shadows.

Parisisalwaysagoodidea Fri 24-May-13 11:58:35

QueenC You could try purple eyeliner with your normal eyeshadow to ease you into it!

QueenCadbury Fri 24-May-13 12:01:39

Any recommendations paris?

Parisisalwaysagoodidea Fri 24-May-13 12:24:33

QueenC I have Bourjois Violet Artiste eyeliner. It isn't too vivid. I bought it as I had heard it was good for green eyes but didn't want to spend too much in case it looked crap.

Re eyeshadow. The Sleek Au Naturel palette has a purple shadow in it. Again, not too vibrant, more browny than proper purple. It's a good transition from total neutrals and the other colours in the palette are true neutrals like brown, grey and beige so are useable.

I am rhinking of getting some more vibrant purple so if anyone has any suggestions I would be very grateful smile

If you can find it, though I heard they've been discontinued, Dainty Doll has a fantastic purple eyeshadow. i think it's called purple haze or something similar. Tiny bit of sparkle in it and it really makes my blue/green eyes stand out. It's definitely good for the smoky eye look

QueenCadbury Fri 24-May-13 13:50:10

Thanks all. I shall check it out next time I'm in boots.

QueenCadbury Tue 28-May-13 12:44:07

I bought a bourjois purple liner and I really like it. Think I'll save the eyeshadow until winter when I tend to do smoky eyes more.

Bought this top. It's the perfect match for the cerise swatch.

Mashedupbanana Sun 02-Jun-13 22:49:52

For work I'm looking for a few cardis to wear over a top which I can put a belt round. I'd love a raspberry or fuschia one. Also on the look out for some winter coloured skinny jeans eg raspberry or burgundy. Any recommendations?
On the lip colour front, I bought a Soap and Glory 'Sexy Mother Pucker Gloss Stick' in 'plum jam' and it is awesome - a very sheer shine of colour

QueenCadbury Mon 03-Jun-13 11:25:36

I've got this cardigan which is cerise (much better colour irl than in the picture). Not sure what sort you're after though to wear with belts?

MadAboutHotChoc Mon 03-Jun-13 16:25:29

Is this the kind of cardigan you are looking for?

link

MadAboutHotChoc Mon 03-Jun-13 16:27:10

Is this in your preferred colour? pink

Mashedupbanana Tue 04-Jun-13 19:55:08

Thanks, I really like the red rose woolovers one. I'm going to order it and see what it's like in the flesh.

Keztrel Wed 10-Jul-13 15:21:55

Hello winters, I've dug out this old thread because I wanted to show you a very very lovely red dress I tried on at the weekend. It's the perfect scarlet for winters. Unfortunely it looks a bit rubbish in the photos! It comes up a size too big, and I think the model should be wearing a size down, because on me it was still a drapey/1920s drop waisted shape, but skimmed curves rather than looking shapeless. It's also short enough to look cool but not so short you feel like a child or like you're overexposing your thighs. And looks amazing with opaque black tights.

MadAboutHotChoc Wed 10-Jul-13 15:36:08

Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately, I can't do more than 50% scarlet or any of the other bright colours.

For dresses, I look best in black, navy, grey, indigo and mole - very drab although I can add interest with a brightly coloured jacket or cardigan. Ordered a pewter dress in Boden's sale so I am already thinking of various outfits that I can make out of it.

The other day I wore a royal purple t-shirt and quickly grabbed an emerald cardigan on when it got cool and people commented on how I looked great in this combination so I will try to do more colours combining to avoid looking too drab.

MadAboutHotChoc Wed 10-Jul-13 15:40:27

And I have been taking advantage of Barry M's 3 for 2 offers - chuffed with the navy and deep purple. The wine red was a bit disappointing as I was hoping for a true burgundy (already got too many reds).

Keztrel Wed 10-Jul-13 15:41:46

That sounds like a lovely combination MadAbout. I'm still rubbish at combining colours so am trying to wear my brighter colours in dresses etc. I used to live in navy dresses with no accessories or scarves (hoped I looked French but mainly just looked a bit drab I think!)

Keztrel Wed 10-Jul-13 15:43:11

Have you tried Essie Bordeaux?

MadAboutHotChoc Wed 10-Jul-13 15:45:05

It was an accidental combination - was running late so had to grab the nearest cardigan. Made me realise I do need to experiment a bit more grin

Keztrel Wed 10-Jul-13 15:47:14

No wait, Essie Bordeaux is actually very red. I'm thinking of OPI's Just a Little Rosti At This - definitely more burgundy than red (browny/purple based red)

MadAboutHotChoc Wed 10-Jul-13 15:49:55

Will try that Kestrel thanks.

Thinking ahead to A/W, I am on the look out for clothes in pine green so if anyone sees anything in that colour, let me know grin

Keztrel Wed 10-Jul-13 16:12:14

I'll let you know if I see anything MadAbout - it's one of my favourite colours too. Really rare to see it I think. Hobbs and NW3 are where I've seen the most pine green stuff.

Keztrel Wed 10-Jul-13 16:18:56

Does THIS count as pine green? I'm blaming you entirely for the fact it's now in my shopping bag MadAbout blush

MadAboutHotChoc Wed 10-Jul-13 16:58:03

It looks a bit too muted but it could be the photography?

The green I am thinking of is more like bottle green, like this jumper

QueenCadbury Wed 10-Jul-13 20:26:58

I'm trying to get a bit bolder in my colour combinations and started this
pin board for inspiration. It's not all winter colours but some of them are.

keztrel I agree with mad that it doesn't look vivid enough. It's nice though.

FairyTrain Wed 10-Jul-13 22:08:39

I'm a winter sprinter too! (waves at QueenCadbury) great thread, I had my colours done last year and it's made such a difference. I now really think before I buy anything, so saves a fortune and justifies me spending decent money on a few key pieces. My HOC lady suggested I stop dying my hair blonde, it's now nearly grown out and looks so much better..
Chucking on the right colour scarf (black and white block pattern) makes me look so much better! I wouldn't have believed the difference it can make.

Keztrel Wed 10-Jul-13 22:31:29

Ha Fairy, I had highlights when I went for my consultation and was told to grow them out and never go lighter than my natural colour. Cant believe I never realised how rubbish they looked!

MadAboutHotChoc Thu 11-Jul-13 10:04:33

Re hightlights, I dye my hair to cover greys and its not easy finding cool brown dyes, as so many products have warm tones.

Keztrel Thu 11-Jul-13 11:54:44

Yes I found that when I was trying to dye over my highlights MadAbout - even supposedly cool browns went orangey or purple (probably not helped by the fact I was dyeing over bleach). My mum seemed to go very gracefully from dark brown hair to silver grey, and never dyed it. I kind of hope I might be able to do the same when I start to get greys...but somehow I doubt it! The silver really suits her as she has ice blue eyes, not sure it will look so good on me.

Anyway, I actually logged into say - have I already recommended Aveda Black Malva on this thread? It's vv effective at cooling down warm tones, if you have medium to dark hair.

Napoleon66 Thu 11-Jul-13 12:28:26

Hi Winters,

I'd like to recommend Clairol Nice n Easy cool brown in 117D. Its a cool brown and is designed to reduce red/orange tones. This was recommended by my HOC lady at consultation.

I love being a Winter.

MadAboutHotChoc Thu 11-Jul-13 12:29:02

Thanks for the tip - will look this up as my hair dye reacts when its sunny and makes my hair look red.

I think Winters who have gone grey can look stunning - I have a couple of friends who went dark grey which then faded to a beautiful silver. They can't wear too much of the pale colours in their palette (e.g white/dove grey/ice colours) though as they can look washed out if not careful (eg no all white outfits).

MadAboutHotChoc Thu 11-Jul-13 12:31:19

Nap - I use a similar colour (the semi permanent one though). Still goes a bit red in the sun though. Thanks though smile

MadAboutHotChoc Thu 11-Jul-13 12:34:10

Keztrel - do you use the shampoo and conditioner or just one of these?

Keztrel Thu 11-Jul-13 12:38:00

I have both but I don't think the shampoo does anything, so I wouldn't bother with it. The conditioner is a much stronger colour - comes out deep opaque purple whereas the shampoo is just a clear light purple. So I'd recommend just trying the conditioner first. I don't use it all the time now my highlights have grown out, just once a week because it makes my hair colour deeper and glossier. What colour is your hair MadAbout? You can leave the conditioner on for longer/shorter depending how dark you are.

QueenCadbury Thu 11-Jul-13 12:40:41

<waves back to fairy>.

mad I'll be on the look out for greens in AW as I don't have anything green at the moment. I find the emeralds and pine green quite specific and difficult to colour match as some things that i've found are too yellow-y.

Keztrel Thu 11-Jul-13 12:42:03

MadAbout I can send you a sample of the conditioner if you want to pm me your address.

MadAboutHotChoc Thu 11-Jul-13 13:02:18

Thanks Keztrel - have already ordered the conditioner as the reviews are great grin.

I am a brunette but I have been going grey for so long that I am not sure what its like underneath all that dye shock blush

Keztrel Thu 11-Jul-13 13:05:35

Haha okay, let us know how you get on with it!

MadAboutHotChoc Thu 11-Jul-13 13:06:38

(and thanks for your offer, maybe someone else can use it now that my conditioner is on its way?).

Queen, my emerald cardigan was a lucky find, TU at Sainsburys in the sale and its perfect match grin. Someone on another thread sources her cardigans from charity shops and has a huge collection so I will be looking in local charity shops for more winter coloured cardies/jumpers wink

Keztrel Thu 11-Jul-13 13:15:16

Greens are so difficult to find and then to know if they're right or not... I think you were both right about the NW3 blouse I linked, it's leaning more towards khaki. I've ordered it to the store anyway just to check! Might still get it if it doesn't make me look bad, cos I do love it.

Yes, anyone who wants a sample of the conditioner let me know. As long as it's only one or two people otherwise I'll run out!!

MaybeBentley Thu 11-Jul-13 13:19:49

Has any blonde Winter tried the silver shampoo advertised on TV lately? Can't remember it's name.

QueenCadbury Thu 11-Jul-13 13:20:16

I scour my local charity shops on a regular basis in the hope of finding something good. One day I am sure to find something good.

Levantine Thu 11-Jul-13 16:59:07

Aveda Black Malva is fab. I would also really recommend Daniel Field watercolours - Oak is a very natural dark brown. My hair is pretty much totally grey I reckon, at the front at least and this really does the job in a very natural way, not totally matt and a few greys showing through, but in a way that looks natural on a 41 year old.

www.danielfieldmailorder.co.uk/?gclid=CLTT4MTnp7gCFaPHtAodYSAAqg

QueenCadbury Fri 12-Jul-13 13:23:03

This tee looks promising for pine green. Also comes in berry and navy.

FairyTrain Fri 12-Jul-13 20:32:34

maybeBentley I buy sainsbods touch of silver shampoo and conditioner, it's bright purple and very good for calming down the brassy ends of my nearly grown out blonde hair...

MadAboutHotChoc Sat 20-Jul-13 12:09:40

The conditioner arrived early this week and its fantastic stuff - have to be careful I don't end up with black palms though! grin

Was in primark early this am with DD and there were t-shirts and vests in a huge range of bright winter colours - emerald, turquoise, magenta, fuchsia, cobalt as well as pine green, black, charcoal and navy.

MaybeBentley Sat 20-Jul-13 12:12:58

Thanks for that, I'll look out for it in Sainsbury - toning down the yellowness is a priority. I've had my hair re-coloured a more ashy-blonde but the golden colour seems to be reappearing after I've been in the sun.

MaybeBentley Sat 20-Jul-13 12:17:19

Saw this in the Phase 8 sale
www.phase-eight.co.uk/fcp/product/phase-eight//Billie-Jersey-Hi-Lo-Hem-Dress/202175688
Does the colour look right? The colour is called lagoon, but seemed much brighter in real life.

MadAboutHotChoc Sat 20-Jul-13 12:58:24

That looks like turquoise - lovely colour but my ratings say I can only wear 50% of my outfit in that colour.

Fairyliz Sat 20-Jul-13 16:19:55

MadaboutChoc

I have worked out that I am a winter by trial and error. What do you mean about your ratings? Does this mean you look better in contrasts, I think I do but I am not very good at it.

Keztrel Sat 20-Jul-13 17:09:21

Glad to hear the Aveda works for you MadAbout!

Fairy the ratings tell you which are your best winter colours - which you can wear head to foot, ie 100%, which you can wear 50%, eg in a top, and which are best below the waist and not next to your face. So say you're a bright winter you might look good in scarlet head to toe, or if you're a soft winter the less bright winter colours will look better on you.

Tbh I ignore my ratings and just wear my favourite winter colours - the ones I gravitate to are the ones that suit me best anyway, so I don't faff around with percentages.

MadAboutHotChoc Sat 20-Jul-13 17:11:42

If you have been to a proper HoC analysis, not only they tell you which season you are but also how well each colour in the palette suits you and how much of each you can wear.

They rate each colour using stars, ticks and percentages - a double star tells you its your wow colour. The percentage is for how much of each colour you can wear.

MadAboutHotChoc Sat 20-Jul-13 17:13:19

Keztrel - you've beaten me to it grin

Keztrel Sat 20-Jul-13 17:28:06

grin

MaybeBentley Sat 20-Jul-13 18:22:41

Ooooh! Just checked my wallet - colour 26 which is a bright turquoise is 100% ** for me (with the other turquoise 75% two ticks). I'll have to go and try it on.

amightywhoosh Sat 20-Jul-13 22:49:39

Hey, my Winter sisters, room for another on the frosty bench? :-)

I have a question about black. Apparently it's one of my best colours, but it looks good on my body but awful near my face. I get around this by wearing scarves/bright cardigans, but I'm lurching into that cliche of black top/black skirt/bright cardie stuffed on top.

Any ideas about how to wear black and colour together well?

MadAboutHotChoc Sun 21-Jul-13 07:55:33

Welcome almighty smile

Someone on here, think its Queen Cadbury, came up with the idea of looking at pinterest for outfit ideas. Its very easy to use - just type in key words in the search box.

Are you sure it looks awful next to your face? When were you analysed?
Do you wear lipstick? I find that wearing the right lipstick helps makes a difference. Same goes for nail varnish.

QueenCadbury Sun 21-Jul-13 09:41:34

Hi almighty. Here are my pin boards. There may be some stuff on there.

I've found that if I wear a black top then I definately need make up otherwise I look half dead. For that reason I tend to wear it more for going out than during the day. Have you tried navy or charcoal instead maybe?

amightywhoosh Sun 21-Jul-13 09:48:35

Ooh, thank you for the board link, QueenCadbury. I already want half of it in my wardrobe.

Choc (is there a Winter choc thing going on here?), good question. I had myself analysed just a couple of years ago. So was not in first flush of youth:-(

I think I'm confused by the black/older woman thing. I thought (though this sounds like a Daily Mail thought) that women over 40 Should Not Wear Black. But black is meant to be one of my 'Wow' colours (and I do really, really like it).

Will get searching and pinning

Thanks

amightywispa :-)

MadAboutHotChoc Sun 21-Jul-13 10:08:33

Re the black/older woman thing - I think its a myth.

I am in my mid 40s and I actually find that the darker colours in the palette suit me better if I am after a dress, suit or coat. The brighter colours look great but only as a top or jacket.

I was analysed several years ago, before HoC brought in the new system where people get told they are a jewel/bright/sprinter/sultry winter but I suspect that I am more of a sultry winter than a bright one.

When you had your analysis did you get told what kind of winter you are? What other colours are your wow ones?

MadAboutHotChoc Sun 21-Jul-13 10:11:32

(and the choc thing is a cooincidence wink)

MaybeBentley Sun 21-Jul-13 10:51:57

Had my analysis last year and I'm a Jewel Winter. Still struggling to get to grips with the bright lipstick as I work in an environment where people don't wear much / any makeup, so only wear it going out (which doesn't happen often). Do use the blusher I bought from HoC and subtly smudged navy eyeliner with black mascara though.
I've never been a nail polish person. My cuticles spoil my nails so I never feel I get a good look, and it always chips so quickly with me that it only lasts a day or so and I never have the time to do it all again. I really must try and get into it as it may make my hands/bare arms look better with the black and navy clothes.

MadAboutHotChoc Sun 21-Jul-13 11:00:54

Tips for longer lasting nail polish - I do it in the evenings while watching TV and use a top coat on top. Rubber gloves for washing up/cleaning etc.

I keep my nails short which also helps.

comingintomyown Sun 21-Jul-13 11:42:52

I had my HOC analysis done years ago too and this has brought memories back of saying goodbye to all my stone/chocolate/teal clothes. I do remember at being sooo relieved black was ok ( I am a Sultry Winter).

I dont buy clothes and make up much now and am in urgent need of a huge over haul so I think I will dig out my wallet and get inspired again !

QueenCadbury Sun 21-Jul-13 14:41:53

amighty I'm about to be 40 and I won't stop wearing black. I have 1 star for it at 50% but do often wear it head to toe. It feels wrong in this heat though.

maybe definately use a top coat. I use nails inc. Polish wise try rimmel or mavala as they last the longest for me without chipping.

After months of being a bit confused about the ice colours (I think there's a fine line between ice and pastel) I found this vest which is iced lavendar.

Keztrel Tue 23-Jul-13 10:41:27

Hi everyone,

I've never bought anything from Boden before but their catalogue arrived the other day and they have some brilliant Winter colours. I've just ordered a button back jumper in Berry, a cashmere crew neck in Iris (was torn between Emerald and Iris but the Iris is really unusual and vibrant) and the printed button back jumper in grey melange because I love spots.

I won't be keeping them all! But as it's free delivery and free returns and 10% off I couldn't help it... (code A345 I think).

MadAboutHotChoc Tue 23-Jul-13 10:58:27

These are lovely - I would be a bit worried that the berry is more of a muted purple than a royal purple though (think there are jumpers/cardies there in winter purples). Its hard to tell online so let us know what its like in rl. Loads of choices on that site for winter people although they still can't do a decent red...

The Iris is striking and I have a t-shirt in that colour - it goes really well with emerald and turquoise smile.

MadAboutHotChoc Tue 23-Jul-13 11:01:00

Have just seen these jumpers and there pine green, purple, cobalt and a scarlet red so I take back what I said about reds at Boden!

Keztrel Tue 23-Jul-13 11:13:55

Yes I'm not too sure what the Berry will be like - might come under the Damson umbrella though, which is one of my best colours. Will have to see. Those Skye jumpers look lovely, they were all sold out when I looked at them a few months ago.

Keztrel Tue 23-Jul-13 11:14:43

Ah I see they're a new version of the Skye jumper and I just missed them this time round. Tempted now...

Iwantmybed Tue 23-Jul-13 11:18:35

So jealous of you all the Winter colours are my fav. Was diagnosed as Autumn yesterday and I'm struggling to come to terms with wearing mustard and orange.

Keztrel Tue 23-Jul-13 11:25:33

Iwant I'm jealous of anyone who can wear mustard and camel, it always looks so sophisticated!

QueenCadbury Tue 23-Jul-13 11:32:41

My boden catalogue arrived too and I fell in love with so much stuff but haven't ordered anything as I'm trying not to buy much until October when I visit London. Do report back though keztrel.

iwant it's not all mustards and oranges though. You have some gorgeous greens and also royal purple I think? Are you on Pinterest as there's a couple of autumns on there that I know.

Keztrel Tue 23-Jul-13 11:37:54

Will do QueenC. I've ordered from Boden before but never kept any of it as I didn't love the things enough in the flesh to justify the price (also I often ordered the wrong colours! Maybe will have more success now I know I'm a winter!) I love that they make jumpers out of proper materials and do such great colours.

MadAboutHotChoc Tue 23-Jul-13 11:55:16

Iwant - a friend of mine is an Autumn and she looks fantastic in kingfisher blue, chocolate and burnt orange.

Iwantmybed Tue 23-Jul-13 17:26:17

Yes I'm on pinterest.

QueenCadbury Tue 23-Jul-13 21:38:28

In that case look at shopafrolic and queenofwhatever as they are both autumns.

MadAboutHotChoc Wed 24-Jul-13 08:11:29

Any other winters on pinterest?

Keztrel Wed 24-Jul-13 10:09:28

I'm on Pinterest (am following all of you who've linked to your pinterests so you might have seen me on there already), but my Style board isn't particularly Winter-suitable as I just pin any clothes I like the look of regardless of colour. My Make up and Nails boards are all more or less Winter colours though.

MadAboutHotChoc Wed 24-Jul-13 10:55:51
Keztrel Wed 24-Jul-13 11:34:19

Ooh, lots of stuff I like on your board MadAbout. I meant to ask, are you still liking the Aveda Black Malva? I've found it tends to build up and leave my fringe a bit lank if I use it too often, so am sticking to once a week (I wash my hair every other day.)

Neena28 Wed 24-Jul-13 12:28:21

Am in lurking. Have followed some of you on Pinterest, hope you don't mind?

Am a winter too although my Pinterest is more for styles I like rather than them being definite colour choices.

I'm a sultry winter and have done the style day and am a natural dramatic. I really struggle with the whole thing to be honest. I have only got about 3 things in my wardrobe that are totally right, colour and style wise.

QueenCadbury Wed 24-Jul-13 12:39:50

Hi neena. What sort of styles are natural dramatic?

Love your board mad especially the ice mint and fushia. I'd really like to give that combination a go as I've realised that combining 2 bright colours isn't really me. Just need to find something in ice mint though. Although I've put myself on a spending ban until October. I'm going to wear what I have so that I really can think about what I need for AW. I can break my ban for an emerald cardigan though as I'm desperate for one grin

Neena28 Wed 24-Jul-13 13:14:38

Queen...that's kind of the problem, I'm not really sure!! I've got some examples but don't seem to be able to translate them to anything I see. I can totally see how the things work when they're there but actually finding them by myself is so hard. I considered myself to be reasonably put together before I did the hoc but now really struggle.

Is anyone else a sultry winter? I agree re two bright colours together, seems a bit much somehow. I am also trying to take a step back from buying, for several reasons. I have far too much and 90% is black and samey rather than the chic I wish for. The obvious financial reasons and that I underwear virtually everything I own.

Have found the summer to be extremely difficult to dress for this year as I'm so conscious that most of my summer wear was coral based and am self conscious now about wearing it although I adore some of the items they are so very wrong, in hindsight, for me.

Neena28 Wed 24-Jul-13 13:20:26

Dramatics are described as dynamic, stunning, powerful, structured, sleek, sharp, extreme, outrageous, futuristic and striking. All the extremes of styles, super angular or very billowy.

The natural part- all the characteristics of dramatics but with a natural, more textures feel to your drama. Textures like linen, suede and animal skin finishes. An unusual nix of soft wools and angled accessories. Some drape - if constructed or controlled to make a statement. Textured finishes on large scale jewellery.

Taken from the hoc sheet I was given in my workbook.

I feel like I am wearing stage clothes when I try anything on. Doesn't seem to fit with normal life and requires so much work.

Any help appreciated, or pointers!

MadAboutHotChoc Wed 24-Jul-13 13:28:45

neena -welcome grin

I think I am a sultry winter as well cos a lot of my best colours are the darker ones. I do wear brights together but this is balanced out by neutrals (e.g cobalt vest with green cardigan and indigo denim jeans). Its easier going out at night as then I wear a lot of black/charcoal/navy and wear bright lipsticks and accessories.

Natural dramatic sounds tricky - did they give you a booklet with examples? Tell us more about the 3 outfits so that I have have a think about where to get similar items.

Queen - still keeping an eye out for emerald cardigans for you although I expect these will arrive at the end of the summer.

MadAboutHotChoc Wed 24-Jul-13 13:34:50

neena - how about this?

or this

or this?

Sounds like you could wear leather? leather skirts?

Would Victoria Beckham's style be typical of a natural dramatic?

BeattieBow Wed 24-Jul-13 13:35:32

I'm a sultry winter, but haven't done the style day, so not sure what my style is. (suspect it's not romantic though). I had alot of black, navy and grey and white in my wardrobe anyway, which I'm relieved about (these are all starred for me), but had to ditch alot of brown. Like you I find it an effort to buy colour, and have managed to find some lilac stuff and some purples which I feel comfortable with. I haven't located much iced pink or mint!

I'm wearing a black dress today (short sleeved) with silver jewellry and raspberry nail varnish. I try to reapply my pink(ish) lippy regularly too! I got a couple of compliments today so must be doing something right, but am trying to stop wearing so much black. (I think it is double starred for me though at 75%).

I ordered some stuff from the boden preview a couple of months ago - can't remember what it was though! maybe the knitwear.

QueenCadbury Wed 24-Jul-13 13:39:26

neena I'm still none the wiser grin. I just did a quick google and Pinterest search but couldn't really find anything. Surely the whole point of your style is to feel at ease with it which it sounds like you don't. Can you go back to your consultant for more advice?

I'm a sprinter so at the spring end of winter so the brights suit me better than the darker sultry colours.

With regards to your coral stuff could you dye any of it? I dyed a coral cardigan fushia which came out a bit patchy but that's because of the high poly content. If you have any natural fibres then they may work.

BeattieBow Wed 24-Jul-13 13:41:59

i keep buying white dresses for the summer which are very impractical because they get dirty and I'm breastfeeding. But I'm still drawn to them if I think they're bargainous!

I like your board too Mad. I am a similar colouring to Victoria Beckham, and dark green was one of my colours. I don't have anything in that colour though. I think the key is not to go out and buy completely new stuff (who can afford that?), but just to slowly introduce colour to your black wardrobe. I would like more bright pink in my wardrobe, but have only got a scarf so far (after seeing a picture of Nigella Lawson in hers!).

QueenCadbury Wed 24-Jul-13 13:42:31

How about combining coral with burgundy?

MadAboutHotChoc Wed 24-Jul-13 13:48:33

Beattie - interesting to hear you are wearing a lot of white. I used to be able to but now I feel I don't look that good in it, probably due to changes in my skin tone.

neena - or coral with charcoal?

MadAboutHotChoc Wed 24-Jul-13 13:49:39

And your outfit today beattie sounds great!

MadAboutHotChoc Wed 24-Jul-13 14:02:29

Keztrel - just spotted your question, yes I am still happy with it although I've only used it every few days rather than every time I wash my hair as I've been showering daily due to the heat.

MadAboutHotChoc Wed 24-Jul-13 14:13:27

neena - thinking about your style, have you tried looking at Phase Eight's tops and dresses, they add quite a lot of dramatic features to their clothes such asymmetrical necklines, drapes, structured lines, metallic finishes etc.

Neena28 Wed 24-Jul-13 21:42:47

Blimey you lot are very speedy!!

Madabout...you have it just about spot on I think. I do think the looks are very chic and look stunning when they're like that and for the first time they didn't seem so overwhelming. It feels like such a lot of work I suppose, and it would be in the short term, habits needs breaking and reforming. The longer term would be better though I can see that. The images you have linked to I can really identify with if that makes any sense at all? thank you for looking for me Madabout, it is very much appreciated.

BeattieBow...outfit sounds ace! I shall aspire via the web to rock a similar style soon! Was pine green a top colour for you? And fuchsia? the consultant described them as 'knicker droppers' to me. Colours that I am most attractive in and most striking. I am yet to find a true pine green in any form of style I can wear and haven't dared touch fuchsia! Total fear.

Queen...massive thanks also. I suspect she was right to be honest but it is a hard one to work up to having been a beige/smart casual kinda girl til now! I adore the looks that mad linked too, really love them. The looks you have found with the coral are really lovely and I shall have a go with them, as they will be an excellent transition. I think I had it in my head that it was all or nothing. If I wasn't doing it properly it wasn't worth it at all. those looks have made me allow myself some leeway in the transition.

I have also ordered the black malva set this eve. Debenhams have 10% off plus extra beauty card point today only so have bitten the bullet. My make up is strangely already in the cool camp. Always has been really, although I wear so little of it normally I actually have a very (very very) large collection and obviously had subconsciously picked what worked for my skin and eye colour.

By the way I am very pale (although I have managed a slight glow this year with a combo of being abroad on hols and weather in UK) with deep emerald green eyes and very dark brown hair.

Thanks for letting me join at this late stage and thanks all for the welcome and help already!flowers

Neena28 Wed 24-Jul-13 21:55:58

I've just spent some more time having a nose through pinterest boards and one thing I'm realising is it isn't just the outfit itself, it's also the way it's worn. the slightly pushed up sleeves or slight tuck in of the shirt.

Where do you go to learn all that?! Are you all effortlessly tucking the front of your tops and accessorising beautifully with numerous designer shoes, bag and gems?

QueenCadbury Wed 24-Jul-13 22:03:29

neena I wish! If you look at my fantasy board you will see it is my dream to own designer bags and gems but if you look at my wardrobe board you'll see that the reality is different!

I do the front tuck in thing but learnt it on Pinterest. Well, I start the day doing it but it's not then always easy whilst out in public toilets trying to perfect it whilst stopping a toddler playing with the sanitary towel bin grin

Neena28 Wed 24-Jul-13 22:10:10

Queen...brilliant! I am so glad those days are passed me now! Although I think the children being older is why I am starting this now. ds now has a clothing allowance himself yet I'm the one struggling with it all! I dot really feel I fit though now and that's part of the problem. I am relatively young, yet don't have the toddler problem most of my friends do, so when the kids are at school I just look dowdy and out of it. I feel better when theyre around as I have more of an excuse almost. Ive been single for a while now though and feel my style and feelings towards myself aren't helping.

I am impressed at what a difference the odd tuck and push makes to the outfits. shall be observing! I didn't snoop further than the obvious winter boards on anyone pinterest, do you mind me poking thru your wardrobe one?

MadAboutHotChoc Wed 24-Jul-13 22:16:07

Glad you found my links useful - these are from my pinterest board and for some reason I am drawn to these looks (maybe dramatic is in my style personality as well?).

Neena28 Wed 24-Jul-13 22:22:33

Mad...yes I think possibly so. I now realise I am drawn to these looks as me rather than what I think I should look like. My sister is very stylish and beautiful. she is also 3 dress sizes smaller, with different colouring and body shape. But as I know she is stylish I had tried to emulate her a little and had followed her advice on how she does it. It doesn't work at all on me. I look off beat somehow. I suspect I am having something of an epiphany as to why today!

QueenCadbury Wed 24-Jul-13 22:30:28

neena go for it. They're there for public viewing! I do find Pinterest great for styling ideas although do often have to remind myself that most of the pins are of models/bloggers and somehow have an ability to look fab in the most simple of outfits.

You will start to feel better about yourself and we'll soon have you embracing fushia smile

Neena28 Thu 25-Jul-13 10:57:31

Well you've had an effect ladies already. Today am in dark jeans with a navy and white top. Minimal make up but blotted red lips. I feel put together but not over the top. I have also pushed the sleeves, which are baggy towards the shoulder and then fitted at the wrist, up a bit so they are kind of 3/4.

I feel much less dowdy with only minimal changes.

Thank you.

(Now must do some work as promised self I wouldn't procrastinate on mn quite so much today!)

Neena28 Thu 25-Jul-13 13:26:11

Has anyone else seen the pictures of the Issa collection for banana republic? Seems very winter colour base in grazia. Dresses look stunning and are £65 to £85 ish. Jumpers, tops etc too.

MadAboutHotChoc Thu 25-Jul-13 14:39:12

No have not seen the collection, will go and have a look. Glad you feel much better today grin

Keztrel Thu 25-Jul-13 14:58:28

Just had a look at some pics from the Issa collection Neena - love the blue and emerald colours. I think the model is definitely a Winter, she looks ill in the tan and orange colours further down.

I just bought a gorgeous dress from Oasis in the sale here, the blue is really glowing and vivid (is that called indigo? I have no idea), and the material is really heavy which gives the dress a good structure and makes it look expensive.

Good god I need to stop shopping.

QueenCadbury Thu 25-Jul-13 16:07:04

Yes I saw that in grazia too. Don't her dresses normally retail at about 400? It'll be interesting to see what they're like. Not that I've ever seen an Issa in real life.

ketztrel I'm stopping shopping until October. I've spent far too much since having my colours done in April.

Keztrel Thu 25-Jul-13 16:22:14

Queen you must have good self control! When I first had my colours done I spend a couple of months just getting used to them, learning to recognise them in shops etc and just getting rid of clothes that weren't right. But now I've got the hang of them I'm going mad hmm

Keztrel Thu 25-Jul-13 16:22:36

*spent

QueenCadbury Thu 25-Jul-13 16:26:28

We shall see how much self control I have. I only decided yesterday not to buy anything else until then grin.

I think it's so easy to get caught up in the excitement of finding something in your colours that I haven't necessarily properly thought through every purchase. I thought some time out would give me a chance to think about what else I really need in my wardrobe and where the gaps are. I'm not normally this sensible I can assure you!

MadAboutHotChoc Fri 26-Jul-13 13:02:54

Queen - they've got emerald green cardis in again at TU Sainsburys. Problem is that they've used gilt buttons, so you would need to change these. I also spotted a nice emerald loose knit jumper and some tapered trousers in a darker emerald. Was very good and didn't buy anything though.

QueenCadbury Fri 26-Jul-13 13:19:18

Thanks mad. I was in sainsburys on Monday and didn't see anything there and I don't intend going near a supermarket again for 6 weeks-it'll be Internet shopping instead of dragging 3 kids around!

Neena28 Sat 27-Jul-13 13:52:36

Been into sainsburys today and they've got a lovely pine green tea dress but has got a cream sprigy pattern on it. Does that make it a no? There weren't any green cardi's tho sad

Have go fuchsia pink nails tho now!!

MadAboutHotChoc Sat 27-Jul-13 13:58:24

How dominant is the cream?

Neena28 Sat 27-Jul-13 14:27:58

It's not majorly dominant but its obviously patterned, if that makes any sense?

morethanpotatoprints Sat 27-Jul-13 14:36:02

I found my season from a book called colour me beautiful and it cost a couple of quid.
It just gave you a season but didn't elaborate on anything more than that.
I am winter and can wear Red (not orange based) black, jade, and all the bright true colours, not muted.
Silver, taupe (is the only brown) that suits me, white, and navy.
How is it split further, i.e I have heard people saying jewel, sprinter etc.

QueenCadbury Sat 27-Jul-13 14:37:23

neena I'm quite fussy now so it would be a no from me if it's a definate cream. Or could it be stone?

MadAboutHotChoc Sat 27-Jul-13 19:13:11

morethan - with a full HoC analysis (not sure about CMB as they use a different system), each one of your season colour is given a rating from double stars to one tick and also they assess as to how much of the colour you can wear (from 100% to 25%). Your double starred 100% colours decide what sub season you are.

Neena - I will have a look for the dress next time I go shopping and let you know what I think (if its in my local store)

morethanpotatoprints Sat 27-Jul-13 21:44:18

Thank you MadAbout

I bet the sub groups are really interesting and shows how colour analysis has come on since the days of CMB.
I found that a few of the winter colours were ok or even good, but others were excellent.
I feel like having mine done properly now, but can't justify the price as I have a hobby with an annual subscription of £100.
However, I am reading this thread with interest thanks

MadAboutHotChoc Sun 28-Jul-13 07:42:04

HoC have always used the stars and ticks system but the idea of naming each sub season is a more recent thing.

For me personally, the expense has been worth it and has saved me ££ in mistake purchases as well as time and effort when shopping.

Neena28 Sun 28-Jul-13 08:05:19

In hindsight I've decided against the sainsburys dress. I've got this information on what suits and its a real miss in all category's bar the base colour. The cream sprig is too ditsy for me from a style point of view, ditto the flowy tea dress stress. Infact I'm not even sure the base green is clear enough if that makes sense or whether it was a bit too wishy washy.

My first this isn't right and I know what is so shall walk away!!! Thanks ladies! Will be interested to her your thoughts about it if anyone sees it tho.

I also think the £99 colour analysis is well worth it, even if it isn't all crystal clear immediately as it hasn't been for me. The wallet alone with all the ticks and stars helps a lot plus the make up info if your make up is totally wrong for you.

Keztrel Wed 31-Jul-13 08:51:18

Hi all, just popping back to report on my Boden haul, as QueenC asked about it up thread. The pine green Skye jumper is a great colour but rubbish shape, far too wide (I love short boxy jumpers but it's ridiculous). The iris cashmere crew neck is a nice colour but doesn't look that good on me for some reason - the bright blues in my palette aren't my best colours, so maybe that's why. Its also v big. The everyday button back jumper is a bit shapeless and meh and the purple is on the dull side as predicted. But I adore the spotty grey button back merino jumper! Great fit, slightly slouchy but not too much, and a v flattering grey.

MadAboutHotChoc Wed 31-Jul-13 09:16:46

Thanks for the Boden report - what a blow re the skye jumper, I had a feeling it would be quite boxy so held back from ordering it. I love grey but have so much of it already and need to experiment with other colours.

Keztrel Wed 31-Jul-13 09:57:15

I know, Skye jumper looks so lovely in pics! But the wool doesnt even feel that nice either sad Still at least I haven't spent too much. Though I did just order the merino crew in navy based on the great reviews its getting here...

Keztrel Wed 31-Jul-13 09:58:57

Mad you could try the printed button back in red - it looks a true red to me. Of course, you might look like a ladybird...

MadAboutHotChoc Wed 31-Jul-13 10:31:04

grin not too keen on the ladybird look!

The 15% code & free P&P have expired so will wait for it to come up again I am a bit skint at the moment!

I am in London next week so will pop into Uniqlo to have a look at their knitwear - some of the colours on their website are hard to see and I hope to pick up a couple of merino jumpers then.

Keztrel Wed 31-Jul-13 11:13:33

Ooh winters, I think this Topshop t shirt is kind of cool. Not my style but definitely great winter colours and good dramatic print!

Levantine Wed 31-Jul-13 12:04:30

Uniqlo has some good slouchy looking jumpers c£20 in winter colours - a blue, damson, fuschia. Not amazing fabric, but great colours and not expensive. Can't see them online though. Also, modal t shirts in good winter colours too.

Levantine Wed 31-Jul-13 12:07:16

Just had another look. This is the t shirt, I got it in purple and black

www.uniqlo.com/uk/store/goods/079900

I think this is the jumper though colours are much nicer in real life

www.uniqlo.com/uk/store/goods/078919

MadAboutHotChoc Wed 31-Jul-13 12:19:18

The topshop t shirt would be great for a winter into that kind of style.

The uniqlo jumpers look promising, thanks Levantine smile

QueenCadbury Wed 31-Jul-13 13:28:47

Thanks keztrel. I don't bother too much with boden as I find the sizes/shapes all over the place. I definately won't bother now grin.

I'm going to login in october and looking forward to checking out uniqlo as I don't have one near and as you say their knitwear looks promising. A friend did check out the green cardigan for me and it's not emerald!

According to grazia, bright regal blues and grey are the colours of AW!

QueenCadbury Mon 05-Aug-13 18:53:52

Hello again winters. Just thought I'd post something so that we don't lose our thread.

ANy winters got their eye on anything for autumn/winter?

ItsNotUnusualToBe Mon 05-Aug-13 21:24:05

Green Cardigan

Not a fan of Next usually but this colour is spot on for me as a sultry winter.

NewNameForNewTerm Mon 05-Aug-13 21:25:07

I popped into Debenhams and noticed lots of my colours in Betty Jackson. Black section. I was in a hurry, so I didn't spend long and when I looked online it didn't look as impressive, but there seemed lots of black, purple and green. I'll take a closer look when I go back on Saturday and report if I see anything worthwhile.

QueenCadbury Mon 05-Aug-13 21:46:58

itsnot I'm not sure how I missed that as I thought I'd done a very thorough search for a green cardi!

I haven't had a chance to get to any real shops yet and I haven't seen a huge amount online that's inspired me. Still, it's only August, plenty of time yet grin

MadAboutHotChoc Mon 05-Aug-13 22:21:19

QUeen - any good?

QueenCadbury Mon 05-Aug-13 22:27:25

mad I've ummed and aaghed about that landsend cardi for ages. It's gone in and out of my basket so many times. I probably should just order it!

Neena28 Wed 07-Aug-13 07:25:18

Itsnotunusal I love the next cardi too! Has been purchased, will let you know.

I've been sent this link to the new Issa collection at banana republic today. A one day only preview

issa

Don't know if anyone else can use it but worth a go I thought. I'm not as sure as I was when I saw Grazia tho now.

QueenCadbury Wed 07-Aug-13 07:46:28

neena I was about to post the Issa link too. Not that impressed tbh.

MadAboutHotChoc Wed 07-Aug-13 07:54:02

Lots of summer dresses/patterns and short sleeves in the link when we all are already thinking of A/W....

I don't want to look like Kate M (too frumpy for me sorry) so not too keen on the lookalike engagement dress.

I am hunting for a burgundy cardigan as the red one I tried on in M&S looked too much on me - has anyone seen one anywhere....?

Went out for dinner last night and wore a dark navy blouse with dark navy jeans, snakeskin scandals and belt - got loads of compliments smile

Neena28 Wed 07-Aug-13 08:14:03

Totally agree with you both. I liked some of what Id seen previewed, maybe cos the styling made it look edgier. But nope it's an engagement dress knock off and they're all a little short for me for work and not what I'd wear for a night out either. Disappointing. Also don't think they're my style now I'm settling into the idea of it a bit more. Although I haven't bought anything except the cardi recently it's interesting that I am already becoming so much considered in my purchasing.

Neena28 Wed 07-Aug-13 08:15:13

Madabout....your outfit sounds fab. Navy and snakeskin looks so chic and trendy in a kind of effortless way. Am jealous!!

MadAboutHotChoc Wed 07-Aug-13 08:20:41

Thanks - its the first time I've combined these two. Like you, I am thinking more about what I buy and wear wink

QueenCadbury Wed 07-Aug-13 09:00:28

Putting myself on a spending ban has been great as I browse online and whereas before I would have thought 'I need that' and just click buy, I'm now not allowed to and actually soon go off the item anyway! It's also made me try out new combinations in my existing wardrobe. Not sure I'll last out till October though grin.

neena do let us know about the next cardi as I'm allowed to buy a green one as it's been on the wish lit for so long!

mad haven't seen any burgundy ones this year but I got one last year in mango.

Keztrel Wed 07-Aug-13 14:22:06

Just dropping by to point out this cable jumper - true bright red and 100% cotton, and not v expensive at all smile I like...

Keztrel Wed 07-Aug-13 14:22:45

And I do really like that green Next cardi, even though I'm not a cardi person normally.

BeingMoreDog Wed 07-Aug-13 14:30:19

Hi, hope you don't mind me interrupting. I'm a summer, so cool-toned like you. I've fallen for this coat but think it's perhaps too vibrant. Do you think it's a winter colour? Kind of hope it is as it's on the £££ side!

Keztrel Wed 07-Aug-13 14:50:00

Being it looks like it would work on winters and summers to me, especially as the description says it's deep pink (looks more burgundy in the photo on my screen.) It's very lovely. Summer colours here have all variations of deep pinks and soft reds!

MadAboutHotChoc Wed 07-Aug-13 14:57:27

Hard to tell as its not RL, but that pink looks like rose madder, a beautiful summer pink. Its not a winter colour though as its too muted. Hope this helps.

BeingMoreDog Wed 07-Aug-13 15:01:25

I think I love you both grin. And rose madder is one of my bests (although it's quite tricky to see the exact colour on screen).

MadAboutHotChoc Wed 07-Aug-13 15:02:46

grin let's hope I've got it right then.

Keztrel Wed 07-Aug-13 15:05:31

Hmm, it seems I'm not very good at telling when something is too muted for a winter Mad. Would that coat not count as raspberry coloured?

I sometimes wonder if I see colours slightly differently - my dad and I can both never tell when something is blue or green if it's in between, when others seem convinced it's one or the other hmm

MadAboutHotChoc Wed 07-Aug-13 16:27:30

I might be wrong though and its not muted after all.

When trying to decide if a colour is bold and clear,I compare it with another colour on another end of the colour wheel e.g turquoise and see how it looks.

QueenCadbury Wed 07-Aug-13 20:53:09

We've probably all had the lipstick discussion before but I bought revlon lip butter raspberry pie and it's lovely.

ItsNotUnusualToBe Thu 08-Aug-13 00:17:28

The Next cardigan is lovely. Diamanté as well so double score for a romantic classic sultry winter grin

It feels lovely. Haven't checked what fabric it is but with small sticky sons I'm better off staying away from investment type buys for a bit anyway.

ItsNotUnusualToBe Thu 08-Aug-13 00:19:02

I've got the lip butter in red velvet (eBay purchase) and I love it.

NewNameForNewTerm Fri 09-Aug-13 12:57:59

Boots have got Revlon Lip Butters at 2 for £10. What colours do you Winter Ladies recommend?

QueenCadbury Fri 09-Aug-13 13:13:35

Thanks newname. I paid full price for raspberry pie the other day. I've just ordered red velvet and berry smoothie.

Boden winter stuff is on preview-20% off.
There are some nice berry and emerald coloured tops plus an Aztec blue in some coats and knits which looks like Chinese blue, which is one of my best colours.
www.bodenpreview.co.uk/en-GB/Womens-Dresses.html
HTH smile

NewNameForNewTerm Sun 11-Aug-13 14:34:21

Have any Winters had their style done too?
I'm very tempted after a friend went and has come back as a gamine- + something I can't remember. She's a winter too. I can really see her as gamine as she is small and slim and a bit of an Audrey Hepburn look-alike. I'm very different so doubt I'd be the same.

I wonder if there are particular style groups winters are more likely to fall into?

Keztrel Sun 11-Aug-13 23:16:20

I've not done the style day NewName but a friend just has and found it really useful. She's a blue autumn and a classic ingenue. I'm tempted but I'm 99% sure I'd be a gamine ingenue so there's prob no point doing it.

I've always thought a lot of winters would make good Dramatics, because of all the black and bright colours and contrasts.

Neena28 Mon 12-Aug-13 08:00:38

I'm a dramatic natural but its taking a bit of getting used to.

Makes clothes buying even harder cos now am looking at style and colour!! I'm trying though just think its a steady process.

It's worth doing in my opinion but I didn't feel like that straight away. It's taken me a fair while to realise that it is right for me and something I can carry off. Think age had a lot to do with it for me. I initially thought I couldn't do fashion and felt like I'd look like a right idiot next to my funky friends. Now I realise actually this is me and its possible to blend the two more and create a look that's mine. Does that make any sense at all?!

MadAboutHotChoc Mon 12-Aug-13 08:13:37

Not done a style day but I think being a dramatic is easier if you are a winter - however I know two winters who have been styled and they are a gamine and a romantic so I am not sure if being a particular season will make you more likely to be a style type.

Neena28 Mon 12-Aug-13 11:20:32

The other woman on mine was a gamine something. She really embraced it all very well.

SunnyUpNorth Mon 12-Aug-13 13:37:54

Hi all,
Newly diagnosed Jewel Winter here. This thread is really interesting and I think will be really useful as I am really struggling with being able to identify whether a colour is correct or not. It's soooooo hard.

I think I am ok with the purples and blues but I can't tell if any greens or pinks are the right shades or not.

Don't think I will do the style day, I am pretty sure I would be classic and natural. Have a pretty good idea of what styles suit me (I think....thought I knew what colours suited me too!) and don't want to add any confusion to the mix at the moment.

How are you all approaching shopping? I just had a brief look in a few shops this morning and kept picking things up because I thought they were the right colour but would then realise they were totally not my style and I was being side tracked by the colour. Then I couldn't actually decide about the colour anyway so left empty handed. Did see this thread before I went out though so did pick up a berry smoothie lip butter thing. Tried the raspberry pie and the red one mentioned but thought they were too much for me to cope with at the moment!! I have never work lipstick in my life!

SunnyUpNorth Mon 12-Aug-13 13:40:51

Ps in that's landsend cardigan link, would the grass green be the right colour?

SunnyUpNorth Mon 12-Aug-13 15:41:53

queencadbury thank you, thank you so much for that Pinterest board, it is really helping me imagine the colours and also how to pair them. Thank you!!

orchidella Mon 12-Aug-13 19:33:46

SunnyUpNorth I haven't seen the landsend cardigan link you mention but I've just bought 2 of the supima Lands End ones. I decided against grass green and chose emerald isle and purple sapphire. My colouring is dark brown hair, pale skin and greeny, grey eyes. I was a Clear Winter in Colour me Beautiful when I checked (some time ago!). I thought grass green might be too bright a green for me but would suit winters with darker skin tone or maybe brown eyes. Anyway my cardigans have arrived today and am really happy with them. They are both lovely colours and clear, not at all muted.

SunnyUpNorth Mon 12-Aug-13 22:35:19

Thanks orchidella the purple one sounds lovely and they are quite reasonably priced. I might take another look...

SunnyUpNorth Mon 12-Aug-13 22:39:01

Ps how does the size come up? I'm a 12 and wouldn't want to order the 10-12 if it is too skimpy, but likewise the 12-14 could be too saggy.

orchidella Tue 13-Aug-13 12:48:52

The next size up from the Small (10-12) is a Medium which is 14 -16. I am between 14-16 and that's fine for me but I do think that would be too baggy for you and the cardigan isn't going to look good with too much excess fabric as it is a fine gauge. So I'd say try the Small and see how it is.

NewNameforNewTerm Tue 13-Aug-13 13:19:08

Re. Landsend. I got caught out a few years ago as I hadn't noticed they sell in American sizes. They were fine with exchanges / refunds and I think the website is clearer now though.
I've had coats, cardigans and a dress they seem pretty true to size for me. It depends on the cut, but they don't seem too snug (which suits me well). I'm tempted with new winter trousers this year.

LakeFlyPie Tue 13-Aug-13 14:15:30

Just a quick heads up as you'd dropped off my active threads.

Nipped into John Lewis yesterday and there seemed to be a sea of cobalt blues and bright purples, didn't have the time (nor cash) to browse but looks promising for Autumn / Winter.

I saw a beautiful bright lemon yellow stripey linen t shirt which I deliberated about.
Gorgeous bright colour, but when I held it up to my face it definitely didn't look quite right so I left it. I'd have bought it without a thought before I got HOC'd so goes to show I've learnt something.
I do wonder if it would have worked with a perfectly coloured scarf between it and my face though - I've still got lots to learn obviously!

I'd be very interested to do the style session.
Is there a good link which explains the different groups? Differing varieties of gamine / ingenue ?sp) all sounds a bit mysterious.

Sunny your colouring sounds identical to mine, I tend to go for deep, bright emerald greens and fuchsia pinks (with blue undertone).
I struggle a bit getting the right reds sometimes as they seem to bring out the red in my nose which isn't a good look shock
I've got the raspberry pie lip butter and wore it yesterday, DS2 (2.8) immediately asked "What you got on your lips?"!

SunnyUpNorth Tue 13-Aug-13 14:26:51

Thanks for the tip off Lake, I am hopefully going to JL this week so will have a look.

There was a red mango jumper linked up thread...I checked with my HoC consultant and she said it is a spring red. So that's a shame but saved me a buy!

Kezztrel Tue 13-Aug-13 15:52:35

Sunny I bought that red Mango jumper - it's a true red in the flesh (and in the picture, to me - your consultant must be able to see something I can't). Unfortunately it's a crappy jumper so I sent it back grin

SunnyUpNorth Tue 13-Aug-13 21:07:36

Thanks Kezztrel - better luck with your turquoise!

QueenCadbury Wed 14-Aug-13 08:48:07

Following on from buying raspberry pie lip butter, I have now bought berry smoothie which is a really natural looking colour for those days when you don't want bright lips, and red velvet which is a lovely deep red but not too dark (being a sprinter I can't wear anything too dark).

Kezztrel Wed 14-Aug-13 08:50:56

I have those three Queen and the colours are perfect. I just wish they were longer lasting. I find myself reaching for my Mac and Clinique lipsticks much more often because of this.

SunnyUpNorth Fri 16-Aug-13 23:13:53

Where have all the Winters gone? I'm very jealous of all the action on the Spring thread.

Anyone got any good blusher recommendations for a Jewel Winter seeing as hoC woman said I shouldn't be wearing bronzer as it is warm?!

I keep seeing people in my colours and thinking their outfits are horrible sad
Wish I was Spring. Need to stop lurking on that thread.

LakeFlyPie Fri 16-Aug-13 23:52:25

No, no, stop lurking cross season, hide that thread grin
We've got the boldest and best colours (and can do black and white, which is a blessing)
Have a look at QueenCadbury's Pinterest board (linked somewhere upthread, for some beautiful Winter styles and outfits.

I'm no make up expert but use Benefit Dandelion as a blusher and find a light dusting all over my face definitely perks up my appearance.

LakeFlyPie Fri 16-Aug-13 23:56:57
Maraki Sat 17-Aug-13 07:40:59

Blushers:
Benefit Dandelion and Nars orgasm have got coral in them, so they are more suited to spring seasons and are not completely cool. They are ok for us winters but not perfect.
I have found Mac's pink swoon and dollymix (perfect with red lips) to be perfect. Both look scary in the pots but they go on very sheer and are very flattering. Bobbi Browns mauwi (its called a bronzing powder but its actually a pink blush) is sheer, natural pink with a tiny bit of sparkle which highlights cheeckbones. It still has a tiny bit of coral, less so than nars orgasm and its so tiny that I think we can get away with it. The Mac ones though are reslly perfect.

Maraki Sat 17-Aug-13 07:54:00

Oh and both Boots and Superdrug have 2 lip butters for £10 at the moment. But I cannot see Queen's colours online angry

Aquelven Sat 17-Aug-13 08:33:14

Sunny it works both ways grin
I'm a spring & been lurking on here, especially before we had our own thread, to read all your great tips & links to see if they come in spring colours.
I only had the HoC day a few weeks ago & had been convinced I'd be a winter or summer, having pale skin, white/ blonde hair & turquoise eyes. Really worth getting it done properly, a real revelation! grin

Kezztrel Sat 17-Aug-13 17:44:17

For blushers I use Mac pink swoon, well dressed (v pale cool pink) and frankly scarlet (not for the faint hearted but you can do a proper snow white look with it). Benefit benetint is good too.

Sunny what kind of winter outfits have you seen that are horrible?!

Fairyliz Sat 17-Aug-13 18:33:44

Queen thanks for the raspberry pie recommendation. I bought some earlier in the week and its great a real clear pink with no brown undertones like lots of lipsticks.(Do you think you could just pop around now and sort out my wardrobe lol)

QueenCadbury Sat 17-Aug-13 19:42:39

fairy if you live in bristol I'd love to grin.

Blusher wise I'm using the one I bought 9 years ago for my wedding blush. It's bobbi brown sand pink which is seems a fairly neutral colour but as I'm on the edge of spring it seems to working me. As we're approaching winter I need to sort out my eye shadows (again, most are 9 years old!) as I tend to wear it more in winter. I did try purple eyeliner that we talked about pages ago which didn't work on me (looks like I'm bruised) but may try some ice colours. I was reading some interesting stuff earlier in the week about winters and will see if I can find it and link.

QueenCadbury Sat 17-Aug-13 19:56:29

London make up girl seems good. She's a bright winter.

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SunnyUpNorth Sun 18-Aug-13 00:29:17

Aw thanks everyone, lots to look at and try out.

I do have benetint and dandelion. Never really use dandelion as I didn't think it did anything but I may try it again. I also got the berry smoothie lip butter last week. If I remember raspberry pie is quite bright? I think it scared me. I bought Wild Watermelon today but it looked very bright once I got home and could try it properly so not sure I am ready for it yet....or if it is even a winter colour....it seemed to have blue undertones.

Horrible outfits....well I was in John Lewis the other day and I saw a girl wearing dark plum skinny jeans and a cobalt blue top. The actual items were quite me with regard to the shape, and in theory they are my colours plus were quite contrasting but it just looked awful. She was slim, pretty Etc so it wasnt her making them look bad.
Then I see loads of people wearing blue, think its one of my double stars but not a colour I have ever worn, and I just don't like it.

I am grateful I can wear black and white but I am feign very restricted by feeling like I don't want to buy colours in supposed to wear but don't like, but don't want to waste money buying something I like but shouldn't wear.

Sorry bit rambly, it's late and I'm tired. I'm sure it will all click soon.

SunnyUpNorth Sun 18-Aug-13 00:30:19

*feign = feeling

QueenCadbury Sun 18-Aug-13 08:26:54

sunny don't rush to buy stuff if you're not comfortable in it. Do you wear scarves? That would be a cheap way of getting used to colour next to your face. When you had your colours done could you see that the colours looked good on you? What about grey or navy? Could you buy some tops in those colours to get you out of the black/white rut and it will ease you in gently.

Wearing 2 or 3 bright colours together doesn't feel like me so I wear a neutral top (grey/navy/white/black) and wear a colourful cardi. I then tend to wear another colour as a belt/bag/necklace or nail varnish. I'd love to be able to pull off some of the colour combinations on my pin board but am just not confident enough.

The lipstick thing will probably click soon. I couldn't get used to bright lips either but if you dab it on with your finger then it gives colour without just looking like a pair of lips. Now if I put on a neutral shade I can actually see that I look better in bright pink! It's been 4 months since I had my colours done though so I've had a bit more time to get used to it!

SunnyUpNorth Sun 18-Aug-13 09:08:08

Thanks Queen, I am sure it will just take a while to click. I am not actually too had with wearing tons of black. I used to love wearing all black pencil skirt, jumper type ensembles when I worked but I'm a SAHM now and I suppose trying to redefine my style.

I love grey and navy, and wear alot of those. I do like colour and usually wear things like white jeans with a green top or cardi, or denim jeans with a brighter vest and blazer/cardi in black or grey etc But it turns out all the greens and links I have are quite Spring shades.

I couldn't really see it at all when she was doing my colours. My friend turned out to be an autumn and looked amazing next to her colours but I felt like a bit of a clown when she was holding all these jewel colours against me.

I don't wear scarves but I do like layering so I think starting small with some vest tops could work.

QueenCadbury Sun 18-Aug-13 13:26:39

Do you think you've been diagnosed correctly? Surely you shouldn't be feeling like a clown when you have your colours done? Could the others see it on you? Would it be worth having a chat with your consultant?

SunnyUpNorth Sun 18-Aug-13 19:18:46

I think I probably have been diagnosed correctly as I was definitely cool and I think I do suit clear rather than muted colours. But in used to wearing less strong colours such as apple greens or candy pinks. I think it is right as I have very similar colouring to alot of the celebrity exampls of dark/jewel winters.

Does anyone think this cardigan would be the right shade? It is worryingly called Warm Jade but does look quite like a winter green to my novice eye:
m.jcrew.com/mt/www.jcrew.com/womens_feature/NewArrivals/sweaters/PRDOVR~91212/ENE~1+2+3+22+4294967294+20~~~0~15~all~mode+matchallany~~~~~Tippi/91212.jsp

Neena28 Mon 19-Aug-13 22:09:14

Hello all!!

Right the next cardi...not a success. Great colour but dreadful shape on me. Made me look bigger but then I realise I'm looking at myself differently after the style day. It's loose around my waist and then fitted just below so hides my slimmest part. Shame but its gone back. They have quite a bit tho in the same and similar shades so worth a look for any other winters.

I did buy a black and white thick striped tee tho. I really like the look on one of the pins of a woman in dark blue jeans with a black and white striped top and black blazer, she's also wearing a red scarf I think although that could be substituted for any 'pop' of colour scarf I suppose. As I have all the other bits that should be a good addition. So if anyone is at cadburys world tomorrow and sees someone who's a winter rocking that look it'll be moi, please say hi!!!!

Also got a pair of pointed, high (with a slender heel), black court shoes from Dorothy Perkins. They are the most perfect shoe I've seen in ages. Looked ace with the deep purple skinny jeans and grey top I was wearing. Also look great with bare legs, as tested this eve. I like high heels despite being tall and they look really expensive as are suede to the touch. They're £27 full price but have got 20% off at the moment. Worth a look anyway.

Am feeling far more confident in my colours this week. Pinterest has helped immensely. Am following queen and a few others although its my real name on there (clue initials J S) if anyone wants to have a look at my boards it's imaginatively titled 'me clothes'!!

marmaladewitheverything Tue 20-Aug-13 11:31:16

Fwiw, I felt like v clownish initially as a newsletter. This improved when my hoc reminded me that I don't need to wear more than one bright at a time, not like those crazy Springs.
And style day helped massively- as a ingenue gamine it isn't surprising that I don't do flouncy stuff- bright scary colours in my styles are actually amazing.
It still feels a bit odd looking different i.e. not beige/grey/peach/lilac with is the norm here.

marmaladewitheverything Tue 20-Aug-13 11:35:15

Clearly not as a newsletter. Typing while pushing DD2 on swings. I meant jewel winter. Obv.

Kezztrel Tue 20-Aug-13 12:13:30

Lol @ newsletter marmalade smile I'm a jewel winter gamine ingenue too...I haven't actually done a style day and have no plans to, because I'm pretty confident about the clothes I wear (just less so about the colours...!) I don't wear many brights at all apart from scarlet, but am starting to quite like bright pink as long as it's not an overly girly garment. I wear loads of black, grey, navy, scarlet, burgundy and monochrome stripes. Boring but works for me!

My attempt to wear bright turquoise blue was a massive failure.

Fairyliz Tue 20-Aug-13 13:21:05

Kezztrel, where do you find your pink clothes? I look good in bright pink but most clothes I see are too girly flouncy. I look better in more sharp tailored styles but they rarely come in pink.

Kezztrel Tue 20-Aug-13 13:30:59

Fairy so far I've only got a plain pink tshirt, but there's a lot of bright pink but plain jumpers in the shops now they're getting their AW stock - I've seen some in uniqlo, boden, jack wills, Asos. Quite like this one but it's going to make DH's eyes bleed.

Kezztrel Wed 21-Aug-13 11:10:22

Hello again winters, just wanted to share this with you because it's a perfect ice mint/aqua colour (looks a tiny bit greener in the flesh than on screen, but not much). Tried it on yesterday and it is perfect with my colouring, although I didn't buy it in the end - really makes dark eyes stand out. Lovely quality too, bit flufftastic on my black trousers though! Sizing a bit on the large side.

QueenCadbury Wed 21-Aug-13 18:33:32

ketztrel that sweater's lovely. It's so difficult to find the ice colours. Unfortunately they're not the best on me as I suit all the bright colours best. I do have an ice hyacinth vest but I can see that although it looks fine it doesn't look amazing.

aftermay Wed 21-Aug-13 22:44:35

Hello winters. As of today I'm a burnished winter. Lots of lovely colours that look good on me (and many I already have) but gutted about the browny-greeny-earthy tones that are a no-no. It's also time to accept that I'll never be a redhead. And I do know that really. I try and try but dark brown hair with no red or blonde highlights is really my best colour.

So today I bought a deep blue cardi from Mango and a fuschia top from Warehouse.

aftermay Wed 21-Aug-13 22:46:35

Did you get stuff from the Kettlewell catalogue? I've got the 30% off code to get started so ill give it a Jo.

SunnyUpNorth Fri 23-Aug-13 09:37:26

Hi all,
I am loving all the hot pink accents on Pinterest, especially with all black outfits. Just to double check - can we wear most of the hot/neon pinks? And then richer pinks like raspberry, fushia etc?

I have booked in for a 2 hour personal shopping session next week at John Lewis, it's free and I have a wedding to go to next weekend so hopefully they can help me.

QueenCadbury Fri 23-Aug-13 13:13:16

Welcome aftermay. Will you wear your fushisa top and blue cardi together? I'm trying to get more adventurous in my colour combos but not entirely convinced yet. I haven't bought from kettlewell except a Chinese blue scarf. All the tops seem to be too short for my long body.

sunny I love the pinks too and yes, fushisa, cerise, raspberry etc are good on us. I used to hate pink but really like it now.

I'm hopefully going shopping/browsing within the next week so will report back any purchases or good things that I find.

Kezztrel Fri 23-Aug-13 16:49:01

Hi aftermay smile I've never bought anything from Kettlewell but keep getting tempted to try some of their basics like a strappy top or scarf, as the colours look great and I'll know for sure they suit me!

Does anyone know what are the different types of Winters according to House of Colour? Burnished, Jewel...is there another one? I can't remember what type they said I am - I thought Jewel, but quite a few very bright colours seem to drain me. When you look online American websites seem to divide winters into cool, bright or deep, which I find much easier to understand - I'd be a deep winter according to their categories I think. My top colours were Scarlet, Grey, Indigo, light emerald, pine green and black.

QueenCadbury Fri 23-Aug-13 16:52:57

I'm a sprinter so sit on the edge of winter verging towards spring ie the bright colours are best for me. I see things like cool and clear and bright online but don't think they're Hoc....?

aftermay Fri 23-Aug-13 16:56:57

Thanks for the welcome. I've worn the raspberry/fuschia top and strong blue cardi together and they looked good! I went through some of my wardrobe and put aside lots of browns, greens, yellows, kakhis. If truth be told, some had been lingering in there for years and rarely worn. Now bracing myself for shoes and bags too. Do I really throw the animal prints?!

Another type of winter is sultry.

Neena28 Fri 23-Aug-13 17:04:04

Kezztrel I'm a sultry winter and you sound like me?

Kezztrel Fri 23-Aug-13 18:47:26

Sultry rings a bell actually Neena! Not that it matters, I'm just wondering. I want to know why certain colours look good and not others - because I can do scarlet (double star at 100% and 75%), which I would have thought is very bright, but some bright pinks and blues really overwhelm my face. Overall my best colours are the deep and ice colours (decided to study my HoC book more closely this morning in a moment of boredom!) - maybe that means I lean more towards Autumn than spring, which would make sense with my brown hair and eyes. Am really tempted to buy the iced mint Topshop jumper I linked upthread, just cos it's such an unusual colour to find! Don't need and it's expensive....

QueenCadbury Fri 23-Aug-13 19:16:14

ketzztrel buy it I've had nearly a whole bottle of Viognier.

I do find it weird that even in a small group of winters that we all suit such different colours in the palette. The deep colours overwhelm me a bit and are better at shoes/belts etc although I love burgundy. I have a burgundy cardigan but I can now see that it looks nowhere near as good as the cobalt, cerise or scarlet ones I have.

I think I've resigned myself that I need to just wear bright colours to look good.

QueenCadbury Fri 23-Aug-13 19:17:18

aftermay I'm going to be brave and try colour blocking!

Kezztrel Fri 23-Aug-13 19:35:07

Queen that's great though, I sometimes end up looking really sombre and dull in lots of black and grey and dark colours. Wish there were more ice coloured clothes around instead of all the dull pastels that are everywhere. I guess the dyeing process to create a sharp, icy colour is more tricky than just greying out a stronger colour to make a pastel.

I'm so buying that mint jumper grin

QueenCadbury Fri 23-Aug-13 20:57:09

Maybe we just all want to wet what we can't? I love blacks and dark colours and although they don't look bad as such, they just don't look as great as the bright colours. Sometimes it was easier before the colours were done grin.

QueenCadbury Fri 23-Aug-13 21:00:39

Any sprinters/brights out there...? I've compiled yet another pin board. This one is purely for my best colours-greens,blues, purples with a bit of pink/red thrown in. I'm trying to give myself confidence to ditch the grey/navy/black and embrace 2-3 colours at one without looking like a kids tv presenter grin

Kezztrel Fri 23-Aug-13 21:23:45

I love that board Queen!!! I want to be brighter grin I reckon I can get away with some of it - love the cobalt scarf and hot pink clutch together. Also love the bright pink jumper with a scarlet scarf. None of them are children's TV presenterish at all.

QueenCadbury Mon 26-Aug-13 07:19:30

Morning winters.

ketztrel did you buy the jumper?

I went shopping yesterday and was so excited by all our colours around! I only bought black and navy trousers and a navy blazer though! But I did try on other stuff to try and make me braver with colour combining. It didn't!

this top is a lovely emerald colour and also comes in cobalt.

Gap had cobalt jumpers and a cardigan. They also have a lovely red and cobalt patterned scarf (not online) which I bought but am taking back as I'm not really a scarf person. I just loved the colours.

Oasis have lots of burgundy colours

Nothing caught my eye in m&s but I did spend most of my time in the school uniform department!

I also bought Rimmel diva red lipstick. Have only had chance to have a quick try on but it seems to be a really good colour.

Specialbrew Mon 26-Aug-13 08:16:50

Hello

Another fellow winter here. I probably had my colours done about 15 years ago. I used to pretty much stick to black and white in my 20's and early 30's and only really embraced the brighter colours in the last 5 years. I'm happy with my jewel colours now, although I tend to wear them with a dark neutral, generally navy or charcoal grey. I am def going to try combining jewel colours this a/w. Although at work, I think it would difficult to get away with it (I work in a conservative industry).

Recent purchases have included a navy wool Jack Wills cropped blazer (in the sale) and two Crumpet tops from TKMaxx - a bright pink tank and a silk one which is black at the front and cream at the back. I know cream isn't a Winter colour but I figure it doesn't matter as it's not near my face!

Queen thanks for those pintrest boards, they are great!

Kezztrel Mon 26-Aug-13 08:32:40

I've ordered the jumper Queen, they didn't have my size in store smile

I am very much a scarf person and the Gap one sounds lovely so will have a look.

I have also bought this skirt in damson/navy. Love all the damson around atm. I think my winter wardrobe is pretty much complete... ought to stay away from S&B for a while really!

QueenCadbury Mon 26-Aug-13 08:51:08

Lovely skirt keztrel. Just seen your other thread-not at all Dennis!

I will admire your willpower if your wardrobe really is complete and you stay away.

Kezztrel Mon 26-Aug-13 09:13:24

I will make myself come and confess on here if I do buy anything else! If the Gap scarf is lovely I may get that. But that's it shock I've bought 3 cosy jumpers already this year and it's not even cold yet.

Fairyliz Mon 26-Aug-13 09:20:05

Queen I love your pinboard I swooned over the royal purple top and chinese blue coat. Although these colours suit me its just having the courage to wear them.
Like other posters I tend to stick with black/grey/navy and a bright top or cardi. Have just bought a colbalt blue cardi from TK Maxx which I wore with denim and a white tee. Fairly basis but I felt good for an around the house/ housework day.

MadAboutHotChoc Tue 27-Aug-13 14:09:39

Popping in to say hello - I shouldn't even be on here, got far too much on at work!

Will come back soon when I have read this thread properly but in the meantime can anyone tell me what colours do burnished winters look best in?

Mashedupbanana Tue 27-Aug-13 20:42:31

Hi Winters,
Brora have a flash sale on until midnight tonight with some fushia knits of anyone is interested.

QueenCadbury Wed 28-Aug-13 06:48:38

[[ http://www.gap.co.uk/browse/category.do?cid=98665&departmentRedirect=true#department=136 gap cords]] are new in. There's a berry and cobalt. I've ordered navy grin. There's also a nice berry cord jacket which I was tempted by!

QueenCadbury Wed 28-Aug-13 06:49:09
QueenCadbury Wed 28-Aug-13 06:51:35

Also, tell me ladies, now that we all look fabulous in our bright or sultry colours would it be really dull to buy a black dress for my 40th? I had been looking at cobalt colours but I've suddenly changed my mind and want a classic lbd. Wwyd...?

KosherBacon Wed 28-Aug-13 07:18:32

I'm having my colours done this morning. I suspect I'm a winter (or very maybe a spring) so I might be joining you folks this afternoon.

SprinkleLiberally Wed 28-Aug-13 07:36:07

Read the thread with interest. Thanks. Can you tell me what a winter who edges into autumn is called at HoC?

MadAboutHotChoc Wed 28-Aug-13 08:28:01

Sprinkle - think its a deep/sultry winter?

Queen - I love black dresses, such a classic and so easy to ring the changes using different shoes, bags, belts, jewellery, jackets, cardigans etc. I think Indigo/dark navy is a fantastic alternative to black if you want to be a bit different.

Have decided not to buy anything until the weather has turned cold and there is more winter stock in the shops but will now have a look at the gap link...

aftermay Wed 28-Aug-13 09:03:03

MadAboutHotChoc - I'm burnished winter and my best colours (with ** at 100%) are grey, royal purple, navy, fuschia, raspberry, damson, burgundy, carmine, dark emerald. So a huge choice for me and nothing burnished about it either! I thought burnished meant a bit dull or off-colour but it's all quite lovely.

I've had a few photos yesterday in my new dark bright blue jumper and I look much better. I need to sort out my hair which still has red tones in it. I'll go dark brown.

Thanks for the links. I'll be looking for combinations of colours too. In fact I've been looking at people and thinking 'that colour doesn't suit you'.

Has anyone watched Breaking Bad? There's some serious colour matching going on there. I hope I don't start re-arranging soft furnishings as well.

aftermay Wed 28-Aug-13 09:07:24

QueenC - a LBD sounds good too especially if you're more comfortable in that colour.

I have had a deep seated aversion to 'Tory blue' IYKWIM (because I think of tories, a bit irrational, i accept) and I don't have anything in that colour. Luckily it's not one of my best either and there are enough blues left for me.

aftermay Wed 28-Aug-13 09:08:33

KosherBacon - have a good session!

Kezztrel Wed 28-Aug-13 10:04:37

QueenC no I don't think an LBD would be dull at all - it's making the most of the fact that classic black is flattering to us winters!

Kezztrel Wed 28-Aug-13 10:05:21

Does anyone know whether 'burnished' winter and 'sultry' winter are the same thing?

Kezztrel Wed 28-Aug-13 10:06:45

I've been watching Breaking Bad aftermay - hadn't noticed the colour matching, been too distracted by the insane storyline and all the blood! It's so good.

aftermay Wed 28-Aug-13 10:16:17

In Breaking Bad - Marie wears purples and her house is full of purples. My DH bought me a purple kettle the other day as I'd noticed it in BB. Skyler wears lots of icy blue, greys and cobalt. I don't know when I started noticing it, not from the beginning.

aftermay Wed 28-Aug-13 10:18:49

Sultry and burnished winters - I think they're different as I had the colours at the same time as another lady who turned out to be a sultry winter.

Kezztrel Wed 28-Aug-13 10:26:24

Ah great thank you aftermay, they must be different in that case! So:

sultry winter = winter moving towards autumn (best colours are at the deeper end of the palette)

spinter winter = winter moving towards spring (best in brights)

burnished winter = winter moving towards summer (best in the softest versions of the winter colours and the ice colours)

Does that sound right?

Kezztrel Wed 28-Aug-13 10:27:05

sprinter winter, sorry, not spinter blush

MadAboutHotChoc Wed 28-Aug-13 11:21:33

aftermay - thanks...looks like I am not a burnished winter then. What is your colouring like?

To sultry winters - what are your best colours? Although my colouring is not dark (pale skin, blue eyes), I look best in the darker/deeper colours of the winter palette.

Keztrel - don't forget jewel winters, maybe they sit right in the middle, not leaning towards other seasons?

Kezztrel Wed 28-Aug-13 11:41:17

Good point MadAbout! Maybe my way of looking at it in the post above is not that helpful after all.... Unless jewel winters are as you say and sit right in the middle.

I guess even two jewel or two sultry winters will have different colours that work best, because we're all going to have slight differences in hair/eye/skin tones.

I think I'm a sultry winter as I look best in the deeper colours - I have pale skin with dark hair and eyes, and my paleness means that some very bright colours drain me. Weirdly I scored pretty high for ice green, but not very high on the other colours - that might be because pine green and light emerald are two of my best colours, so the ice version works too. But generally I look best in burgundy, damson, cobalt, aubergine, or true red (scarlet).

I wear all the colours in the winter palette though because they all look good - apart from Mole and Lemon, which look unspeakably bad for some reason confused

Kezztrel Wed 28-Aug-13 11:42:09

that should have said 'not very high on the other ICE colours'

aftermay Wed 28-Aug-13 12:18:53

Mad - I'm quite dark-sallow skinned, hazel eyes, dark brown hair originally. I've been wearing lots of colours, including the wrong ones. I'm not shy of using colour but perhaps not combining them.

Kezztrel - how lovely you can use greens.

Kezztrel Wed 28-Aug-13 12:30:27

I do like greens aftermay but sometimes feel a bit wicked witchy in them! A bit like snow white's stepmother grin

MadAboutHotChoc Wed 28-Aug-13 12:30:48

Aftermay - did you get advice about how to combine colours during your consultation?

Kezztrel, I can't do lemon either. Ice colours are ok - not great though.

As for the jewel colours - these come up as wow for me but only as 50% of my outfit.

Mole is one of my 100% wow colours - this is supposed to be a typical sultry winter colour. My other 100% best colours are charcoal, black, burgundy, navy, indigo and pine. I used to be able to do 100% white but not now - only when tanned or wearing dark colours to tone it down. Hmm...it looks like I am a sultry winter then - wasn't sure if I would be given my colouring.

I'm a sultry winter and mine are Pine, Burgundy, Navy, Charcoal etc, so the real deep ones. Ice pastels not good - think I got one tick for all of them.

MadAboutHotChoc Wed 28-Aug-13 12:33:25

grin at Kezztrel. I love green as well as blue. Not a fan of pink though.

MadAboutHotChoc Wed 28-Aug-13 12:34:53

Amber - how well can you do the jewel colours?

aftermay Wed 28-Aug-13 12:37:13

I didn't get advice about colour combination - just what I read in the booklet. Important tip there to buy things you love on their own and big because they'd gk with something else.

I was advised about neckline, though (the more 'shaped' ones, V and the like). Again, a change from the soft rounded necks k tend to use.

KosherBacon Wed 28-Aug-13 13:56:13

I am back and I was right, I am a winter. I was expecting to be more of a jewel winter, but it turns out that I am more of a sultry winter.

Has anybody got any good pinterest boards for sultry winters?

shelley72 Wed 28-Aug-13 14:13:50

Have been lurking but please may I join? If I can find my book with my star ratings would it be possible to tell what type of winter I am? I don't remember the lady mentioning anything of sultry, sprinter etc.

Also looking for inspiration for some new clothes post baby, am a sahm so nothing too smart needed. Joined pinterest yesterday but can't fathom it out yet. Would that be good for collecting ideas do you think?

At the moment I look pretty awful and washed out so want to make the most of anything new I buy.

MadAboutHotChoc Wed 28-Aug-13 14:32:50

hi Kosher - hope you are pleased to be a winter? I remember being so relieved as I had so much black in my wardrobe. Remember that in theory you can wear all the colours in the palette (with one or two exceptions) so if you want to wear jewel colours you can (and be guided by the ratings) as that's what I do otherwise my wardrobe just looks drab and boring.

Shelley - welcome! My analysis was several years ago before they had types so that's why I have just been trying to work out what kind of winter I am. Tell us your colours and we will help you work out what you might be.

To follow a pinterest board, click onto the follow button. You need to create a board of your own if you want to pin images onto it so that you can refer back to it.

MadAboutHotChoc Wed 28-Aug-13 14:38:42

aftermay - that is good advice. Build it up slowly - if you like scarves, that's a great way of adding colours. I have decided to start getting shoes and bags in bright colours - inspired by pinterest.

Primark, H&M etc have loads of cheap tshirts (long and short sleeved) and vests in winter colours and that has helped me experiment more as with investment pieces I tend to play it safe.

KosherBacon Wed 28-Aug-13 14:39:15

HotChoc- yes I was glad. I looked at my wardrobe before I left and it was 85% black and then random bits and pieces! I still do need to do a big clear out though. I have to admit that I have dresses I haven't worn in 5-10 years and am never going to wear again.

Kezztrel Wed 28-Aug-13 14:50:21

I'm gradually building up a Pinterest board of winter-suitable make up if it helps anyone. Am really getting into very strong, dark lip colours atm!

KosherBacon Wed 28-Aug-13 14:51:56

Can I ask where is good to buy some basic layering clothes in winter tones? I have the Kettlewell booklet by they are a bit fuddy duddy. I tend to like to wear scoop neck vest tops, but they tend to be ribbed and I think that can look a bit casual. I wanted a smoother fabric. I want them slightly longer in the body.

MadAboutHotChoc Wed 28-Aug-13 15:06:44
MadAboutHotChoc Wed 28-Aug-13 15:07:57

Kezztrel - great board, love the dark lipsticks.

Kezztrel Wed 28-Aug-13 15:09:11

I get mine from Topshop Kosher - they have a few good winter coloured ones in atm - greys, cobalt, emerald etc. I like them as they tend to be thin, drapey material and good for layering, rather than heavy cotton.

Kezztrel Wed 28-Aug-13 15:10:05

Forgot to say, the Topshop ones are often long, or you can buy the Tall versions which will definitely be long (unless you're tall of course!)

Kezztrel Wed 28-Aug-13 15:13:58

Thank's MadAbout - my current favourites are Mac Media and Mac Diva. They are less scary than bright red, strangely.

Kezztrel Wed 28-Aug-13 15:16:57

Mad I hadn't seen that colour theory link before. It makes perfect sense and might explain why I find it hard to work out which type of winter I am - my darkness and coolness are both equally obvious, I think. I'm not very bright make of that what you will.

KosherBacon Wed 28-Aug-13 15:20:37

Can I recommend Lipstick Queen Medieval for a really sheer red that is bluer leaning? I love it.

aftermay Wed 28-Aug-13 15:53:58

Kezztrel - those are some lovely lipstick colours (and models). BTW I like your username one interest. About the only thing I would understand in Danish.

Mad - thanks for the link. That's the kind of thing I'm after! Interesting colour combos, how to put them together. With so many strong bright colours looking good I don't want to end up like a clown. Or too matchy matchy.

aftermay Wed 28-Aug-13 15:56:50

KB - I felt the same way about the Letttlewell catalogue. Nicd colours and clothes, infividually, 'but has if really come to this?' I think part of the issue is that I'm already quite adventurous with colours and clothes just perhaps not very good at making the most of it. So I need a step up from that rather than timid beginnings.

aftermay Wed 28-Aug-13 15:58:24

Thanks for suggestions to more sensible shops. The person I saw was name dropping LK Bennett and the like whilst I was trying to hide away the TU label on my cardi.

Kezztrel Wed 28-Aug-13 16:13:33

I found this style blog the other day which has lots of posts on how to work out your style. I'm not a huge blog fan normally but this woman seems really sensible, her posts are very clear and useful, and I would guess she's a Winter too (though I could be wrong). She also makes me want to get a pixie cut! Anyway here it is - steps for working out your style whether you're clueless, almost there or a total fashionista already smile Just in case anyone else finds it useful. I haven't got round to doing the steps yet but I love her post on Gamine style.

MadAboutHotChoc Wed 28-Aug-13 16:31:19

Kezz, will have a look at the blog later, thanks for posting it.

I agree re kettlewell.

after - try primark, they always have loads of layering tops in all colours.

shelley72 Wed 28-Aug-13 20:22:02

Ok I'm back and more confused than ever! So my double star colours at 100% are raspberry and carmine. Double stars at 75% are charcoal, indigo, navy, lobelia, magenta, dark emerald and pine green. I think I was supposed to do something with the ratings sheet and my colour swatch but never got round to it. Colours that are crossed out completely are acid yellow, stone, ice lemon. Rest of the ice colours only have one tick at 25%

Can anyone explain further please? What should I be wearing? Bought a pewter dress for wedding and think that may be wrong now. Wondering if a style day would be of any use? Has anyone done this too?

MadAboutHotChoc Wed 28-Aug-13 20:29:30

Pewter is charcoal smile and I would team with carmine/raspberry accessories and make up/nails.

You could be a borderline sultry winter with those deep colours and a jewel winter with raspberry, carmine, lobelia and magenta. Maybe you could ask your HOC consultant to see what kind of winter you are? Or one of the HOC consultants on here?

MadAboutHotChoc Wed 28-Aug-13 20:33:07

What are you confused about? If its about the percentages - 100% refers to full outfit, 75% = coat/suit, 50% = top or bottom.

Double stars are your wow colours, one star indicates that these are very good on you and one tick is ok.

Go through your swatch book with some small stickers with the ratings written on these and take it shopping with you so that you can buy clothes, make up etc in the right colours.

shelley72 Thu 29-Aug-13 00:00:26

Thanks it was the stars/percentage that had me a little confused. Because it was so long ago I couldn't remember what they mean confused. that makes more sense now. I do wear a lot of navy and grey so maybe it's time I was more adventurous with some of the other colours.

KosherBacon Thu 29-Aug-13 21:15:08

Bloody annoying Mumsnet ate my long post!

I've just come back from The Trafford Centre looking for good basics and came back empty handed. Ive been to M&S, Next, Gap, Banana Republic, Dorothy Perkins, Zara and others.

I wanted some basic vest tops for layering- only a couple of shops had them, they were only a few straggly odds and ends on rails and they were all either cropped or had shoe string straps.

Next on my list was some crew neck cardis. I couldn't find any in my winter colours and if they were there they were either 100% polyester or hand wash/ dry clean only. I want something that will go in the washing machine.

In the end I left with no new clothes at all. I did get another Berry Smoothie Revlon lip butter as mine is running out (and a raspberry pie as they were £7.99 each or two for £10 in Boots).

Any tips on where does good basics and staples.

KosherBacon Thu 29-Aug-13 21:18:58

I did see some nice cobalt sweaters in a few shops but I was on the look out for layering stuff, not jumpers.

MadAboutHotChoc Fri 30-Aug-13 07:31:48

How annoying for you - they don't seem to have much A/W stock in right now. That's why I am on self imposed a shopping ban til Oct. Did you try Primark? They are usually ruthless about moving onto the next season.

Re crew neck cardis - I am looking for one or two as well and I usually find these online. Try Woolovers for reasonably priced wool cardigans.

Kezztrel Fri 30-Aug-13 08:48:59

crew neck cardis in winter colours

I tend to be boring and go for black, grey or white vest tops, which are pretty easy to find. Uniqlo might have some more interesting ones though! Topshop has some lovely silky ones in ATM, some in ice and jewel colours.

QueenCadbury Fri 30-Aug-13 09:24:36

Crew neck Cardigans-my specialty...
Mango-wash well
Oasis-wash well
M&s-the buttons are often frumpy but can be easily changed
Warehouse sometimes have them
Gap
Primark-never bought one from there so can't vouch for quality
Next
Dorothy Perkins
H&m - if you wash and wear often these aren't the greatest quality
Woolovers- haven't tried
Uniqlo-haven't tried but may order some
Landsend-haven't tried

I love cardis and wear most days so have a fairly extensive collection from over the years. They're the thing I will always buy if I see a colour I like.

QueenCadbury Fri 30-Aug-13 09:28:55
KosherBacon Fri 30-Aug-13 09:43:22

That mango one looks great but its hand wash only. I have an eleven month old so need something that will stand up well to repeated washing!

The Woolover ones are a bit too loose.

I do quite like the Uniqlo ones but I do wonder if they could be a tad more fitted. They don't show them off well with that polo neck underneath.

aftermay Fri 30-Aug-13 16:18:01

I bought the Mango one in blue. It's a strong but beautiful shade. I put it in the washing machine at 30 degrees woollens (together with other stuff). It came out ok, a bug crumpled as I forgot it in overnight but fine once left in the back of a chair. I ought to start treating my clothes with more respect!

I bought a camisole/vest in Oasis in dark muted navy (£6). They had them in off white and pinkish as well.

KosherBacon Sun 01-Sep-13 06:27:13

I'm on the Woolovers website and was wondering which of their colours are true winter shades? I'm not sure how true the colours are on the website.

aftermay Sun 01-Sep-13 07:24:02

I don't know about the Woolovers as I'd never heard of it till a couple of days ago. I had a look and they seemed quite nice & well priced but I got confused with all the fabric composition and paralysed by all the choice.

KosherBacon Sun 01-Sep-13 07:24:36

That's why I've started another thread about the choices!

aftermay Sun 01-Sep-13 07:26:58

How have you all tackled your wardrobe? I've put in bags things that aren't my colours. Now what do I do with them? Do I take the plunge and take them to charity or should I keep them and try some on every now and again? (What if a few months down the line I decide this whole colour analysis business is a lot of bollocks and I shouldn't have thrown them away?)

QueenCadbury Sun 01-Sep-13 07:37:08

aftermay can you dye any of it? I successfully dyed a couple of cardigans but you do need a good natural fibre content for the dye to take. I dyed something with some polyester in and it went all patchy. Otherwise I got rid of all my stuff. The god stuff I sold, some bits I gave to friends and the rest to charity but I knew i'dnever wear them again.

aftermay Sun 01-Sep-13 07:53:22

QC - I'd never thought of dyeing them. I'll have a look and see how much I really like them.

Yesterday I wore a shortish navy corduroy skirt, navy camisole and grey jumper on top (knitted, with holes, so quite lightweight), with a chunky grey and silver necklace. Red lipstick. My DH really loved it. He said its the kind if thing I used to wear when we met. (But all my floaty greens and yellows...)

KosherBacon Sun 01-Sep-13 09:01:49

Aftermay- I've sorted my wardrobe into keeping, eBay, charity shop and bin. To be honest the reason I hadn't colours done was I've put on weight post baby and the clothes that fit me were tatty and tired. I've thrown out lots (why do I never wear an apron when I cook- so much had grease stains). I was roughly ok with my colours and had lots of brights but some were warmer (teal, coral etc) but I'm not going to throw them all out if they are in decent condition, they can just be worn for work.

aftermay Sun 01-Sep-13 14:15:50

I haven't done eBay in many years to either buy or sell. I think the DDs would love to help with this, might be a nice activity to do together and free!

aftermay Sun 01-Sep-13 14:19:10

BTW I've bought the pink Hobbs coat linked on the other thread. I hope it's the right shade. My last wool winter coat was bought 8-10 years ago. Lots of flimsy fashion ones meanwhile.

Kezztrel Sun 01-Sep-13 14:57:43

I kept a few things that weren't in my colours because I still like and wear them a lot, and still get compliments in them. I gave quite a few things to an autumn friend, as I think I was dressing more like an autumn before - lots of apple greens and teals. She gave me a raspberry cashmere cardi in return, bargain! The rest I ebayed and oxfammed. But I've done it v slowly over a year so I didn't end up with no clothes!

Mashedupbanana Sun 01-Sep-13 20:36:18

I had a bit of a hair dye disaster - I'm blonde and went to the salon asking for an ash blonde (HOC woman advised it) and came out looking really terrible. I have had it changed and I definitely do need a warm tone through my hair. I'm so confused by it. Have any other winters found this?

aftermay Sun 01-Sep-13 22:54:00

Sorry i can't advice, Mashedipbanana. I'm dark haired and the few occasions when I went blonde or had highlights I didn't look particularly well. For years I've wanted a vibrant red, tried at home, at hairdressers. It doesn't 'take' and I end up with a very mild version. I'm finally accepting I'm just dark haired and ill stick to this.

MadAboutHotChoc Mon 02-Sep-13 07:32:44

Mashedup - I look best when I use a cool based brown dyes. Warm red tints makes me look awful and clashes with my make up and clothes.

I wonder why you thought the new dye looked awful - was it because it was such a change? or made you looked washed out?

MadAboutHotChoc Mon 02-Sep-13 07:33:18

* Make and clash

QueenCadbury Mon 02-Sep-13 07:36:25

Can't advise mashed as I'm naturally blonde. My hair definitely looks better after being in the sun as it turns hits blonde. Are you a sprinter winter? If so you may have fairly neutral colouring so may need a neutral hair colour as opposed to properly cool iyswim.

Can we talk nails? I love AW nail colours and I'd love to know what your favourites are or what you're planning on purchasing. I want this one

aftermay Mon 02-Sep-13 08:06:54

QC - that's strong! I'd wear it, though. Would go with pretty much everything. I struggle to find nail polish that lasts on my nails, though. I wash my hands a lot (professionally rather than OCD) and I feel self-conscious if they aren't in top condition. I meant to try a bit more over the summer as I took a few weeks off but I forgot.

I have some of those OPI ones but they are quite light/thin. My longest lasting is Jack Wills nail polish, of all places.

MadAboutHotChoc Mon 02-Sep-13 08:27:18

I have that purple but from Barry M (also have their navy and grey). All gorgeous colours. Currently wearing shocking pink nail polish as I am still in summer mode....

jennyjetson Mon 02-Sep-13 09:09:41

Mashed - I have the same problem with hair colour. I should suit an ash blonde colour but I don't....it made my hair age and my skin go grey to match it. I soon reverted to a brighter blonde, more golden colour.

I have never thought that it could be a neutral blonde but now Cadbury has mentioned it, it has no warm tones in it and prob why it suits.