Honestly - am I being unfair to ds3 by dressing him in this?

(60 Posts)
MandragoraWurzelstock Thu 18-Apr-13 19:29:36

I found what I think is a super little matinee coat. It's red, very sweet and lovely to use. It's like this - well quite similar, not lacy or picot or anything.

Today I put ds3 in it (he is 3 months) and TWO people thought he was a girl! He was also wearing plain white tights I should add, so maybe it was that?

Is it wrong to dress baby boys like this? I mean maybe he looked a bit Victorian but I didn't think he'd be mistaken for a girl. he looks like a potato anyway

MandragoraWurzelstock Thu 18-Apr-13 19:30:02
BackforGood Thu 18-Apr-13 19:37:28

erm...probably not what you want to hear, but if I saw a baby in white tights and that coat, I think I'd assume they were a girl too. Sorry!

Ujjayi Thu 18-Apr-13 19:39:24

Not so sure about coupling it with tights but that jacket is adorable. Worn over a babygro I wouldn't think anything of it or even some lovely soft chambray dungarees.

DefiniteMaybe Thu 18-Apr-13 19:39:45

I'd also assume girl.

Makinglists Thu 18-Apr-13 19:39:48

Its lovely -he is never go to know whether someone thought he was a girl. My mum dressed me in blue as a baby (late 60's early 70's) on the basis she liked blue she used to get remarks about what a lovely boy I was!! Haven't been scarred for life!!. For what its worth I think its lovely.

purpleroses Thu 18-Apr-13 19:40:18

At 3 months he's not going to care if people think he's a girl. If it doesn't bother you, then dress him how you like! Enjoy - in a few years, he won't be having any of it, but right now he's yours to dress as you like smile

pizzaqueen Thu 18-Apr-13 19:42:40

You can dress your DS in whatever you want. It doesn't shouldn't matter what anyone else thinks.

However, if I saw a baby wearing that coat and tights I would definately think it was a girl.

But who actually cares, why should we gender a 3 month old baby. If you like the coat then put him in it, at 3 months does it actually matter whether complete strangers think he is a boy or girl.

BeanoGrigio Thu 18-Apr-13 19:43:35

Well if I saw a baby dressed in that coat and white tights, I would assume it was a girl, but I'd only do this so that I could say 'isn't she lovely?', 'how old is she?' or something similar. I don't think it's a bad thing or clothes that shouldn't be on a boy or anything, just down to lack of a non-gender specific third person singular pronoun.

Anyway ime babies always get mistaken for boys when they're girls and vice versa, even when they're wearing clothes that traditionally scream one gender or another.

They all look like they could be both so I think people just look to clothes as a clue, instead of saying 'is it a boy or a girl?' (which would probably cause offence to someone somewhere anyway).

I wouldn't worry about it.

MandragoraWurzelstock Thu 18-Apr-13 19:44:16

Thankyou, I can totally see how a girl would look great in it too - but it's not a frock, just a little knitted coat. And I want him to be able to wear this because it's so blooming easy to put on! Unlike the myriad 'boy' coats and cardis I've had from Boots and mothercare, which have all got tiny teeny arms and loads of buttons and they ride up as they're too short.

The tights too, I really like - they wear them in Germany a lot I think, on baby boys, and toddler boys and they are just so useful.

It's a bit like putting a girl in trousers |I suppose, just the convenience of it! smile

louisianablue2000 Thu 18-Apr-13 19:44:17

Iwouldn't worry about it. My girls always had people assume they are boys because they weren't dressed head to toe pink I still buy 'boys' jeans because I hate the tight cut of 'girls' jeans. DS is 7 months and his grandmother is continually saying how masculine he is despite me putting him in pink sleepsuits (because I refuse to but new ones for 3 months) and sleeping bags and hand-me-down T-shirts that are rather feminine.

Call me radical but I don't think wearing a red coat as a 3 month old is going to affect your son.

EleanorFarjeon Thu 18-Apr-13 19:44:22

Whilst I hate to see babies in jeans, jackets & trainers, I would also think he'd look a bit of a nancy in a red matinee coat & white tights!

Soz

ZolaBuddleia Thu 18-Apr-13 19:44:39

The tights and the fact that the coat is the same shape as an adult woman would wear would make me think he was a girl.

ZolaBuddleia Thu 18-Apr-13 19:45:37

Aren't trousers easier to put on than tights though?

louisianablue2000 Thu 18-Apr-13 19:46:07

Oh, as far as the tights issue goes, you can get some fabulous 'boys' tights which are far better than socks for babies.

MandragoraWurzelstock Thu 18-Apr-13 19:46:08

I think I was worried that maybe I am deluded, and part of my brain is trying to MAKE him into a girl since he is my third and last baby and they';ve all been boys!

I don't want to be weird or something

I do draw the line at pink but then he did have a purple hat when he was tiny as nowhere had any in blue/grey etc. And it did have some tiny flowers on. blush but I was desperate at that point. It doesn't fit any more.

MandragoraWurzelstock Thu 18-Apr-13 19:48:09

Trousers are slightly easier At the point of dressing BUT though he has plenty of trousers, I avoid them as you need socks with them and the socks won't blardy stay on! I am sick of picking up fallen socks and my baby having cold feet.

So often it's tights UNDER trousers or just tights as frankly, he's a baby and doesn't care - but I still feel a bit worried that I might be, you know, breaking the rules a bit.

LadyKinbote Thu 18-Apr-13 19:48:45

It looks lovely! I wouldn't worry about it, they're only little and cute for so long...

MandragoraWurzelstock Thu 18-Apr-13 19:49:09

Louisiana - do you have a linky please?! Am running out of non pink and grly tights!

LadyKinbote Thu 18-Apr-13 19:49:38

And there are no rules with baby clothes!

MandragoraWurzelstock Thu 18-Apr-13 19:50:49

thankyou smile

BreasticlesNTesticles Thu 18-Apr-13 19:52:07

Babygrows are the way to go imo, much easier than any "proper" clothing. Would have def thought he was a girl in that outfit but it doesn't matter to him as long as he is comfy!

deleted203 Thu 18-Apr-13 19:52:08

I don't suppose your DS cares. But it is definitely a girl's outfit, IMO.

ReluctantlyBeingYoniMassaged Thu 18-Apr-13 19:53:13

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You cannot be serious, OP!

landofsoapandglory Thu 18-Apr-13 19:53:14

I'm not sure TBH, but if that's the sort of price people will pay I'm bringing out my knitting needles!

Branleuse Thu 18-Apr-13 19:54:49

I'd probably think girl, especially with tights but then again I'd probably just think cute outfit. it's a sweet coat

CanYouGetDownPlease Thu 18-Apr-13 19:57:43

Have a look here OP
slugsandsnails.ie/

EverybodysSootyEyed Thu 18-Apr-13 20:00:11

my german mil tells me the boys wear tights in winter - not as everyday wear

i can't see how tights are easy at all! i hate trying to pull the things up and god forbid you get a leaky poo! i think both my kid wore neutral coloured babygrows for the first 6 months so no sock situation. i was also a big fan of dungarees as i didn't like the waistband of trousers digging in

to me it just doesn't look a very practical outfit.

EverybodysSootyEyed Thu 18-Apr-13 20:01:00

should add my ds wore tights in winter when he was younger - no issue with tights per se!

MandragoraWurzelstock Thu 18-Apr-13 20:03:23

Oh those are gorgeous smile Thanks ever so much.

I didn't buy the actual one in the link btw. I can't find a link to mine as they're sold out but it's a bit of a finer knit - garter stitch is it, like inside out knitting? and a darkish red. And not that expensive!! shock

5madthings Thu 18-Apr-13 20:04:59

I think.its lovely but i can see with white tights why people would think girl.

My boys wore tights under their trousers when it was cold. Tights are fine for boys. John lewis sell navy onez and h&m do boys tights and funky colour ones for babies, my dd has some lovely green ones from h&m.

MandragoraWurzelstock Thu 18-Apr-13 20:05:36

Yes we do babygrows as well, most of the time in fact, but sometimes I like to change the record a bit iyswim,

fwiw is there a big difference between tights and babygrows, with the little coat on top? I think it would look quite similar really.

MandragoraWurzelstock Thu 18-Apr-13 20:06:53

Will look in H&M, thankyou smile

He has got some orange tights and some brown ones too. The white/cream and brown came in a set from mothercare sale, very cheap which is why I got them. Maybe I'll avoid the white ones then.

Viviennemary Thu 18-Apr-13 20:09:41

I didn't think I was that worried about girl/boy clothes. But not really a red matinee jacket and white tights for a boy.

ConstantCraving Thu 18-Apr-13 20:13:08

3 months old? Your baby will not have an opinion - and who cares what anyone else says? There is no 'rule' for what you dress babies in - nor should there be for anyone else!

EverybodysSootyEyed Thu 18-Apr-13 20:23:33

i got ds tights in gap - they have the bear on the bum which i think is cute! and you can get them in brown/blue etc - maybe not at this time of year though!

tbh my dd is still mistaken for a boy - even when she wears pink or a dress! she's almost 3 but slow growing on the hair front!

abbyfromoz Thu 18-Apr-13 22:15:17

Nothing wrong with little boys in tights... They are warm and they cant be kicked off like socks... The little coat and tight combo do look quite girly but who cares? I wouldn't say it's cruel... As long as he's happy, healthy and comfortable! I dress my little girl is a lot of boys clothes- just because i think some things look classier in the boys department. I still dont understand why everything has to be covered in sequins, lace, motiffs, hello kitty and a mish mash of patterns... Block colours and muted tones just look more classic. She is nearly 2 and still hardly any hair so constantly getting mistaken for a boy... Either way she's gorgeous and would make a handsome little boy or a pretty littke girl wink lol

op i'd think girl too but it's more likely just the white that makes it appear 'girly' if it had been brown or navy i doubt i'd notice.

Dd was a baldy until she was 3 and was forever called a boy, even in all pink - i used to get incredibly riled up about it but now i'd say it's not worth bumping your blood pressure up for smile

Btw, ebay do tights/leggings for babies with jazzy designs on for £3 ish a pair but i think they import from china so may take a couple of weeks - really cute tho!

chartreuse Thu 18-Apr-13 22:59:07

I used to dress my boys in girls clothes all the time when they were little, boy's clothes were all the colour of sludge. Obvs not flowery dresses, but bright colours, stripes, they both wore a gorgeous red cord coat which came from the girls department.

They didn't object and did not suffer emotional scars as far as I can see grin

MysteriousHamster Thu 18-Apr-13 23:12:11

Baby leggings are eBay are good for boys (or girls). I find tights a bit too fiddly for babies.

I would dress my DS in most colours but the shape of the coat is what would make me think girl. As someone says it looks like a little version of a woman's fitted coat.

soapandhorny Fri 19-Apr-13 05:34:00

Sorry, but when my DS was 3 months I used to dress him like Baby Dave off the Royale Family.

MandragoraWurzelstock Fri 19-Apr-13 07:06:23

I have looked everywhere for leggings with feet but can't find any! I have got ONE pair of those from when ds2 was a baby. They are really good and yes much easier than tights.

I used to dress my boys in these:

www.susumama.com/product.php/263/83/jumper---cotton-knit-in-rainbow-stripes/8ac3cc1a8d08a74fb6e8ec41dbe5fdf2

Their penises have not shrivelled up or disappeared.

bootsycollins Fri 19-Apr-13 07:32:09

Matinee jackets are traditional baby wear designed for ease of winding baby, I'm loving the matinee and tights combo, very WW2. I was out with my friends baby boy last week and 2 people thought he was a girl, I think it's because there was some purple in his outfit.

I had tonnes of matinee jackets for my dd, so cute and practical.

MandragoraWurzelstock Fri 19-Apr-13 07:42:54

Bit like this

MandragoraWurzelstock Fri 19-Apr-13 07:43:23

and I'm SURE that's a boy!! smile

propertyNIGHTmareBEFOREXMAS Fri 19-Apr-13 12:06:50

I think the tights are more of a problem than the coat. The tights are outright cross dressing but the coat is ok on it's own or over cords, jeans. I do like the coat but would probably have bought it for my DDs rather than my ds. Ultimately though if it it is the easiest way of dressing your ds then go for it!

propertyNIGHTmareBEFOREXMAS Fri 19-Apr-13 12:08:24

Threebee, that rainbow jumper is gorgeous and totally unisex looking, IMO.

"I would also think he'd look a bit of a nancy"

Eh?????

MooneyRara Fri 19-Apr-13 13:21:05

'The tights are outright cross dressing'?? seriously?

Mooney I know, I thought they were just practical items of clothing in chilly weather, seems I was wrong. Put your little boy in tights and next thing you know he's sat on a shoe on the roof of a pink bus..

I think it is beautiful - I love seeing babies in things like that, and romper suits!

Nicolaeus Fri 19-Apr-13 15:02:03

You cant win so put him in whatever you want.

Ds was in a white all in one snowsuit with a blue knitted hat until 3 months when out and about. Despite me saying 'he' whenever I was asked his age etc many people assumed he was a girl hmm because 'he has hair' confused

Also had lots of people asking me if he was a girl or boy...

notso Fri 19-Apr-13 15:29:05

It'll be the red, DS3 always gets mistaken for a girl when he's wearing red.

TheDevilsGherkins Fri 19-Apr-13 18:59:35

You could always stitch a Thomas the Tank Engine applique to it ...

<<runs away>>

OP H&M have leggings with feet

My 18mo DS is constantly being mistaken as a girl. hmm Even if he is dressed head to toe in blue or 'boys' clothes.

I don't think it really matters.

Trumpton Sat 20-Apr-13 04:36:24

fab boys' tights DGS wears them . He wore lots of tights when he was a baby.

CheerfulYank Sat 20-Apr-13 05:01:03

I'd definitely assume girl, but who cares? smile

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