The CrepeVine

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MrsSchadenfreude Sat 13-Apr-13 14:03:00


How did we finish the other thread so fast...? Less than a month.

MrsSchadenfreude Sat 13-Apr-13 14:04:55

I have just purchased some very nice fig cologne from Monoprix - tis the ubiquitous "Bien-Etre" but a new "flavour." Most pleasing.

motherinferior Sat 13-Apr-13 14:05:19

Fab title!


bigTillyMint Sat 13-Apr-13 14:11:36

Like it!

MrsSchadenfreude Sat 13-Apr-13 14:11:36

A sudden and rare flash of inspiration!

Am going to drag DD2 to the huge H & M at La Defense tomorrow, so thank you for your offer, but I will see how we go there. No matter what she wears, it will be wrong, according to my mother, so I need to find her something she is comfortable in and which will be worn again. My Aunt adored DD2, and she would just have been delighted to see her - they shared a very dry sense of humour.

bigTillyMint Sat 13-Apr-13 14:23:39

Aww, MrsSsmile
What I wouldn't give to see my favourite auntie again. I still miss her so.

Watched a fab film called This is 40 on the flight back last night which, (although I am hurtling towards 50) was was so true and made me realise that the bickering/arguing, non-perfection etc on holiday was completely normal for families - it's just that I have no benchmark for normal family life smile

Blackduck Sat 13-Apr-13 14:39:34

Ahh typed loooong message only old thread not realising it was full!
Queenie I am in Kefalonia and the goats are not in trees, but are on the roof of cars, all over major mountainous, twisty roads and anywhere else they feel they would like to be grin
Dp is sunburnt, a very nice chemist gave me some trial size lotion for ds (he is allergic to lots of them and I failed to buy at the airport), this is a brand I have never heard of, but seems to be fine and he is rash free.
On the downside Greece is way more expensive than it was 15 odd years ago!

Ruby - hope doggy is okay.
BTM - welcome home!

rubyrubyruby Sat 13-Apr-13 14:55:17

Love the 2nd dress MI - but I can imagine you in red or jade green?

Welcome back bTM.

Got very excited at new house on the market today but searched up and it's only 3 bed.
DH has agreed to my plan smile

bigTillyMint Sat 13-Apr-13 14:59:42

I bet it is BDgrin (just realised it is 18 years since I went to Greece envy)

Ruby, I hope your doggy is OK too - is she old like us?!

bigTillyMint Sat 13-Apr-13 15:13:09

Well done with plan, ruby!

I also can imagine MI in jade or redsmile

motherinferior Sat 13-Apr-13 15:18:46

DP suggested redgrin would it be OK with my hair? Tends to wash me out.

Blackduck Sat 13-Apr-13 15:28:00

Oh BTM and on family dis harmony we have had the minimum of two major breakdowns a day. Today I pointed out to ds that there was no point bringing him away if he just wanted to sit in the hotel playing minecraft all day - cue meltdown. Doesn't help that dp goes out to wind ds up at every opportunity

Stropperella Sat 13-Apr-13 15:35:09

Love the new thread title grin

smile @ unruly goats. Glad you are having lovely weather, BD. In answer to your q on the other thread, we were teaching in Brunei - local schools as opposed to international. H was teaching secondary and I taught primary 3 and 4.

Good luck with the shopping,MrsS. I find shopping with dd puts my blood pressure up somewhat. She hates it so much.

Hope the vet can find a fix for your poor dog, Ruby.

Absolutely pouring with rain here. dcs have been banned from all electronica until they have finished golden-themed artwork for golden wedding party we are going to in a couple of weeks. There is much cutting, pasting, spraying and grumbling going on. It was probably unwise to let them have the gold spray paint.

bigTillyMint Sat 13-Apr-13 15:38:49

Hmm, think it depends on the shade of red MI - you will have to go on a shopping spree and experimentwink

BD, we were doing quite well then - we even had some days with no breakdownsgrin DS was a royal PITA - think it was/is the combination of puberty hitting and no mates to fool around with and DH's genes!

Stropperella Sat 13-Apr-13 15:39:19

Cannot get old thread open on my weedy netbook for some reason. I shall have to wait to view MI's dresses as dh is currently installing a new hard drive on my big computer.

bigTillyMint Sat 13-Apr-13 15:40:02

Having said that, he and DD were inseperable (and insufferable) 98% of the time - it's just the meltdowns can be explosive to say the least!

Stropperella Sat 13-Apr-13 15:41:18

Hey MI, if you can rock a red lipstick surely you could do the same with a dress in the right shade of red!

bigTillyMint Sat 13-Apr-13 15:43:30

Stropps, I want to go and do some volunteer teaching in a local school somewhere abroad (maybe Africa?) when I retire!

Re shopping with DC, DD and I are great together - it's just DH (and DS) who put the spanner in the works in Bangkok!

bigTillyMint Sat 13-Apr-13 15:44:02

Yes, Stropps, that's a good point re the red lipstick!

Stropperella Sat 13-Apr-13 15:59:35

BTM, we weren't volunteers, we were paid - much better salary than in the UK in h's case. I was getting a pretty reasonable salary given that I wasn't a qualified teacher at the time. I saved most of my salary and it enabled me to do a PGCE when I came back to the UK. We could have stayed out there for as long as we wanted as the contracts were on offer long-term but didn't fancy it.

bigTillyMint Sat 13-Apr-13 16:36:24

Oooh Stropps, getting paid? Even bettergrin

hattymattie Sat 13-Apr-13 17:56:07

Fabulous title Mrs S - makes us sound cool and trendy and red badge of courage for tackling H&M La Def' even on a Sunday.

I've collected DS from his week in Megève - he is exhausted! I've fed him, he's bathing right now and then it's Dr Who and bed!

MI - I also love second dress and I also typed this in old thread and was not allowed to post at thread had finished. Didn't dare start a new thread as could never have thought of such a good title as this one ^;

Stropperella Sat 13-Apr-13 20:23:12

Ha, BTM, he worked for cfbt and it wasn't a third-worldy type job ifykwim. He`d been a teacher for nearly 20 years already in the UK and elsewhere and was not the type to ever do it for free grin. I couldn't work for them at that point because of lack of quals and experience. (H had job offer and was preparing to move when I met him) I got my job after being in the country for 3 months.

CointreauVersial Sat 13-Apr-13 21:01:14

Aah, here you are. Excellent title, by the way.

MI, like the silver dress, but the black one is a little ordinaire for a Birthday Girl, possibly.

Cremolafoam Sat 13-Apr-13 22:12:16

Oh found y'all.
I love bien-être mrs S grin: generally buy the green one and bring it home. Makes you smell like a rather nice gin and tonic wink
I'm such a Monoprix whore. Particularly the one on boulevard st michel. I have some terrific bits of clothing from there.

I like the silvery one ;it is very stylish but not sure if it will not look a bit wintery in Junewink the shape is lovely though.

Bd I spent my 18th birthday on a beach in Kefalonia . I slept on the beach with my two gay friends , drank ouzo and watched the shooting stars in the complete darkness with the cool water lapping at our feet.
We got off the ferry on a whim and didn't realise we were stuck there for a week as there was only one boat every 6 days!grin Happy times

Blackduck Sun 14-Apr-13 06:05:43

Cremo I think there is rather more than one a week these days!
It is quite surreal actually - the season hasn't started so most places are not open, but preparations are being made - 50 chairs in the road being repainted, new canopies being built. It's like watching a stage set being built ready for opening night grin

bigTillyMint Sun 14-Apr-13 07:11:42

<waves to BD>
Am so jetlagged - couldn't stay awake past 9 last night, but then woke at 4am - better than the night before when I woke at 2am. Feel knackered and am just stuffing my face blush I will have to be up at 6.30 tomorrow anyway!

Longhaul is so overrated!

Blackduck Sun 14-Apr-13 07:21:22

<hi BTM>
I appear to have doubled my body weight - I thought the Mediterranean
Diet was healthy? (Don't think about the wine..)
Sorry to hear about the jetlag - we are back late Monday and I am in work Tuesday - I suspect I won't be in the best shape smile

bigTillyMint Sun 14-Apr-13 07:30:16

BDgrin I think Thai food must be the healthiest - I appear to have LOST a couple of pounds!!! And I didn't touch any wine (not really a natural Thai drink!) but I did succumb to the odd cocktail/cold beer fruit shake!

You should be OKish re jetlag - it's only a couple of hours time difference, isn't it?

bigTillyMint Sun 14-Apr-13 11:51:45

Swooon! I have a young gardener here doing a quote - mmmmmmmblush

bigTillyMint Sun 14-Apr-13 12:07:02

And breathe.

Stropperella Sun 14-Apr-13 13:10:58

grin at BTM's Sunday morning swoon.

Ooh, BD, sounds fab - I love the time just before the beginning of the season when everyone is warming up - both literally and metaphorically.

My big computer is now up and running again and I have been able to view the party dresses. I like the design of the first and the colour of the second. Possibly not very helpful. grin

Today I have a bazillion and one jobs to get finished before facing a frankly abnormal workload for the next 2.5 months. This is both good and not good. And is also why - as the Intergalactic Empress of Procrastination - I am sitting in my pyjamas doodling about on the computer. I will now force myself to focus on my to-do list.

OK, maybe not just yet.

Cremolafoam Sun 14-Apr-13 15:46:57

I am not unfamiliar with the procrastination- pyjama -wearing Sunday morning. Today I have binned my to do list and taken a world weary dh out for a 99 ice cream and a stroll out to a lighthouse. My cobwebs are getting well and truly blown awaysmile
Still have an entire weeks washing to achieve, but at least it's a perfect drying day - sunny & windy.

herbaceous Sun 14-Apr-13 16:06:22

I am procrastinating also before tackling the garden. Again. When the Chuckle Brothers dug up the garden, they mixed in all the highly expensive decorative stones on with the rubble and spoil. So my task is now to separate the stones from the soil and rubble, and bag up the soil. So far it's taken me about three hours to do 3 square meters. FFS.

Re MI dress, to add to the confusion I think either dress, but in cobalt blue!

Cremolafoam Sun 14-Apr-13 16:35:48

Crikey Herbs sounds like a thankless task. Grim. Still really too cold to plant anything here garden looks appalling.
Whilest I was at work yesterday the enemy neighbour has broken ground on the itsy weeny plot of land beside us( up until yesterday a field of lambs ) we fought tooth and nail against the proposed house and lost despite our best attempts at the planning dept.
It is going to be the hugest house and will block all our southerly lightangrysad
I was hoping against hope that they wouldn't build because of the market being as it is. But no, building gonna start next week just in time for dds exams. They will be selling it apparently and not living in it. They already think they own the neighbourhood. They own 6 empty houses already .

bigTillyMint Sun 14-Apr-13 17:06:37

herbs, you need my gardener-manwink

Crem, we have a "development going up behind us in a triangle of land between 2 houses (bearing in mind this is squished London Victorian Terrace Houses) - a 3? bedroomed house with a swimming pool (the size of a pocket handkerchief in the basement!!!) - we fought the planning for nearly 10 years...

Cremolafoam Sun 14-Apr-13 18:26:00

Hi BTM : this is a green field site within 2 metres of our side wall. It will be 11 metres high and a garden the size of a £5 note because of parking regulations needing then to be able to park 3 fucking rangerovers cars.
I am trying to not to get cross. My blood pressure is going to be affected by the banging wont it?hmm

bigTillyMint Sun 14-Apr-13 18:35:22

Cremo, I feel your pain. The ground floor of the house will be about the same distance from our wall.
Plus our lovely new next-door neighbour came round yesterday with proposals for an extension to their ground-floor flat which would butt up to our garden fenceshock DH (in the nicest possible way!) told him we would definitely oppose it.

hattymattie Sun 14-Apr-13 19:14:04

Crem' isn't there a legal principle - "right to light" or something like that. I know somebody who had to demolish their extension because of this.

bigTillyMint Sun 14-Apr-13 19:29:00

Hatty, you are right - that is why it took the developers nearly 10 years to meet the requirements. And what we are hoping will preclude the NDN's proposed extension!

beachyhead Sun 14-Apr-13 21:36:02

Love the title of the thread... Well done Mrs S.

Commiserations to all building works neighbours. It's such a horrible situation to be in.

Back to school tomorrow. I have spent all day shouting, shouting shouting (we are not one of those families who have done all the homework, washed all the kit etc, hence the shouting) and actually can't wait to retire to my peaceful office in the morning....

CointreauVersial Sun 14-Apr-13 21:48:48

Coincidentally, we had a letter yesterday from a company expressing an interest in buying our property "for development purposes". Next door (and the next one along) got the same letter. We live in a village with a high proportion of £1m plus houses, and several nearby have been bought up, flattened and redeveloped, with either a monstrosity mansion, or "executive" flats. Probably the latter, in our case, as we are on the edge of the posh bit.

Our neighbour is classic fodder for such people - an elderly widow, living in a medium-sized (but dated) house on a massive plot. I'm less clear what they would do with our miserable strip of land (and we are on the end), but if she sold up it would almost certainly be in our interest to do so too. We had a brief word, and she isn't considering it at the moment, but it may turn out to be a godsend ten years from now, when she can't manage the stairs or get into her garden.

I do wonder whether they don't carpet-bomb villages like ours with such letters, in the hope of getting one or two responses; they may not offer anything close to what (we think) our house is worth. Anyway, food for thought.

motherinferior Mon 15-Apr-13 08:47:39

My turn to be rescued/distracted from a ruck on a thread; it's the sunbed one, on which I and various other people are pointing out facts (they're really rather bad for you)....

Herbs, I look vile in cobalt blue.

Don't talk about houses. Ours is falling down some more and there is a mysterious whiff of dead mouse somewhere in my office.

motherinferior Mon 15-Apr-13 08:52:20

my quest continues...

(JL has phase eight sale today but no good to me as I haven't tried anything on!)

bigTillyMint Mon 15-Apr-13 09:13:23

Like that one MI - could see you in it!

Yes, I am wondering about a dress in PE - might go to my local store and try it...

Cremolafoam Mon 15-Apr-13 09:15:24

Yes to Damsel in A Dress dress.
Very very pretty and definitely a ' its my birthday - suck it up' grin
Colour's beautiful. What colour is your hair MI?

motherinferior Mon 15-Apr-13 09:35:11

It is dyed these days red.

hattymattie Mon 15-Apr-13 09:40:51

I like the red colour but still prefer the design of the second dress (not very helpful really).

Have done a wool wash in anticipation of very hot weather forecast today and it is raining. The trials of domestic life.

Have had words with DH as he has spent all weekend on computer working and ignoring kids and me. Have pointed out that couple down the road divorced for less. He looked bewildered like he'd done nothing wrong. I don't think he understands the vibes he gives off when he's concentrating at dining room table and the kids feel they have to tiptoe round him.

QueenQueenie Mon 15-Apr-13 10:41:05

Oh here you all are. Can't believe that last thread filled up so fast, am so dense that I couldn't understand why no one had posted on it... then I found this one...

MI that dress is definitely the right sort of vibrant, not sure about the "floatiness" in the hem area (but perhaps that's just me). If it's on sale at JL and you like it can't you get it on spec and return if not right?

Last few days of school hols here. Can't wait for dss to go back on Thursday and some semblance of order can return to my house / life.

Very nice thread title Mrs S!

daftdame Mon 15-Apr-13 10:50:13

All I can say is..

Tee, hee! Makes me think there is always hope.

QueenQueenie Mon 15-Apr-13 11:17:37

Err, thanks DD.

Cremolafoam Mon 15-Apr-13 14:52:02


bigTillyMint Mon 15-Apr-13 17:23:57


Stropperella Mon 15-Apr-13 18:27:44

Er, yes... hmm

I would like to announce that I was a goody-goody at the w/e and did A Project with ds to try and enthuse him about the Vikings. We spent ages researching and then making a longship (not sure if it actually was "ages" but it felt like it). He very proudly took the results into school today. That was this year's try-hard mummy moment. Anyway, it appears to have worked because I found ds doing his written homework at 8.30am yesterday morning. I actually was like this => grin

At the less cheery end of the spectrum, dd is currently beating herself up because she "only got an A" in her French oral today and is "the thickest in the class". She is actually in tears because allegedly everyone else found it "really easy" and all got an A*. <sigh> Nothing I have said so far has made any difference. Any suggestions, Crepsters?

Cremolafoam Mon 15-Apr-13 19:04:27

Oh blooming hec Stropps - an A is amazing isn't it. I personally hate A* - I mean what's the point of them.??
I'd say something like tests are only supposed to be a way of finding out what you've forgotten.smileor need to go and look at. That's all they're for . Oh and the old it's not a competition speech or I'd have never got an A star in that test...
Then give chocolate.
I'm a hopeless parent aren't I !grin?

bigTillyMint Mon 15-Apr-13 19:24:13

DD would be the same Stropps - hates to feel that she is not one of the best (competitive much?!)

Chocolate sounds a good plansmile

Stropperella Mon 15-Apr-13 21:03:42

Thanks Crem and BTM. I tried chocolate. And ice cream. But you could tell it was serious because she wouldn't have either of them. Have done the "you can only do your best" speech etc. 2 hours on and she's now had some ice cream and marshmallows so is clearly feeling a bit better. I am rather dreading the rest of this term as it's exams a-go-go and several of them are the real GCSE deal. <gulp> Today's French oral apparently does count towards the final grade. (not sure why or how, tbh)
OTOH and contrary to expectations, there has been no drama at all about the new glasses she has to wear for looking at the board at school and watching TV. Geek chic rules, apparently. Not contrary or anything, my dd. smile

bigTillyMint Mon 15-Apr-13 21:21:22

Stropps, sending you brave, strong and positive vibessmile

Cremolafoam Mon 15-Apr-13 21:40:27

That's sweet about the specssmile
Dd seems to only wear hers at home so perhaps she going through some other kind of "phrase"grin
What % of the overall mark is the oral Stropps? I bet it won't affect her overall grade that much tbh.
Lol at ice cream and mallows.

Fancy some if that myselfshock

Blackduck Tue 16-Apr-13 05:44:31

Hi <waves feebly> it is way too early to be up but dp insisted we head for home.
Kefalonia seems a lifetime ago already sad
I take it that YouTube link isn't flattering - it you can't say something nice etc etc
Sorry to hear all the building woes - I do stare at the patch of green opposite our house and think 'please no'

beachyhead Tue 16-Apr-13 06:30:09

Morning Blackduck,

I can confirm that, (except the rain), winter is maybe over, so it's safe to come homegrin

I must admit, on the mark spectrum, we are at the other end... A and A* maybe for Art, but we are aiming to celebrate passes here!

Not through lack of trying or competitiveness, as she is working so hard, but we will be delighted with a full hand of anything above a C....

I've told her if she gets an A* in Maths, I'll buy her a car... It's a gamble I'm prepared to take, as the money is safe with me! grin

Seriously Stropps, hope she is ok this morning going in. These perceived set backs can hit them hard at this stage.

daftdame Tue 16-Apr-13 10:16:23

Soz, Blackduck et al.

Blame my anarchic sense of humour (FAIL!?). I liked it because it seems quite endearing. Makes me glad people love you for all your 'imperfections' - ultimate geek chic (although I'm not quite that far along - yet!).

Cremolafoam Tue 16-Apr-13 10:49:00

oh for goodness sake. i have just realised i am so short sighted i have been doing the wrong emoticons on my phone for ages. ( in my defence they are TINY on my iphone grin )
This is the first time I have actually logged in on the computer for a year. Apologies for any harm or confusion i may have caused.

wilbur Tue 16-Apr-13 10:58:16

Aha, you're here! I think that last thread filled up so fast because you were all so busy facebooking each other instead of talking about eyelashes and frocks and other important things.

We have, after avoiding it all winter, been hit by the D&V bug. Ds2 was impressively sick over the weekend and is now completely wiped out (and not back at school, sigh). Ds1 has started calling him Mr Spew grin. Poor ds2 - he's never sick and asked dh if you can die from vomiting. Waiting for the others to go down with it - what's the incubation, anyone know?

MI - I love the damsel in a dress dress.

Blackduck Tue 16-Apr-13 11:04:08

MI - yes to the red number!

Wilbur - sorry to hear (we have escaped that - I hope)

Dp got me to work at 7.30 (ouch) and ds to school (pain au chocolat in hand) at 9.30.

DD - I hadn't watched it (on an iphone this morning), but can't get any sound on it so can't work out if I should be offended or not grin
Cremo - ha ha re emoticons - I want to know why envy shows up as a green heart on a phone!

Stropperella Tue 16-Apr-13 11:14:54

Is it time to move to Gransnet? grin It will be GreatGransNet by the time we get there..

Wilbur, sorry to hear about ds2 turning into Mr Spew - I'm sure his big brother is helping to feel a lot better. grin Hope the tables aren't turned anytime soon. Incubation period usually v. short, I think.

Oh, BD, that's too early and a rather harsh jolt to the system. Hope today goes smoothly.

Beachy, she stayed up too late last night revising for today's science mocks and was in a baaad frame of mind, stomping around at 11pm huffing about there being no point in going to bed "as I won't be able to sleep anyway". I think at this rate, it doesn't matter what grades she's been predicted/is allegedly capable of - she'll be lucky if she passes, given the state she gets herself into. Never mind, I'm sure things will all work out for the best eventually (she says, drawing up emigration plans for when the shit hits the fan).

motherinferior Tue 16-Apr-13 14:02:14

I need someone to go shopping with me grin I have spent FAR too much time trying to find dresses online. I shall ask for whatever frock it is from my parents as my birthday present...

Cremolafoam Tue 16-Apr-13 15:51:40

Going to have to be a good one MI !
Have you tried signing up to Dessipi ?
Quite a good site for sniffing out clothes for your shape- if you can be arsed filling in their form.
I have located a frock for my mums 70th do using it.
Also( --if you have time to fritter--)
shop style may be handy

I realise this is probably Not Helping.confused

hattymattie Tue 16-Apr-13 16:13:35

I'd love to MI but alas live too far away.

bigTillyMint Tue 16-Apr-13 16:42:15

MI, there's a Phase Eight in West Dul - am thinking of popping in myself on Sunday... Can't face going up West!

motherinferior Tue 16-Apr-13 16:49:17

Shall we?

motherinferior Tue 16-Apr-13 17:06:19

BTW Crepeys, I am slightly, it's none of my business but a child in our road has been cycling up and down ALL DAY, yesterday and today. It may, of course, be that she goes to a school that hasn't started term yet...but if it goes on, should I say something?


CointreauVersial Tue 16-Apr-13 18:15:58

I'm loafing on the sofa enjoying a bit of peace and quiet, for once.

DM has gone home after a couple of days here, plumber has knocked off for the day, leaving a scattering of debris, but some impressively hot radiators, DH is somewhere below the English Channel en route from the Netherlands, the DDs are out rollerskating, and DS is......well, who cares? I'm watching trashy TV and eating chocolate.

Cremolafoam Tue 16-Apr-13 18:20:10

Age of child MI?
Is she on her own?
I'd maybe approach her with you own dc s in tow. Ask if she's ok? Casual like

rubyrubyruby Tue 16-Apr-13 18:29:48

<<checks register to see if any trainees are missing>>

Could still be on holiday MI. Some of our schools aren't back until tomorrow.

bigTillyMint Tue 16-Apr-13 18:41:32

I'm up for a foray - what time shall we meet on Sun? (Hope it's not raining as I will probably have to be on my bike as DS will have footy somewhere....) There's the Dul Trader too which might have something nice?

My legs are jelly. I have just done an hour's circuit training - uses muscles my other exercise doesn't reach!

motherinferior Tue 16-Apr-13 19:47:38

BTM, shall check with my fellow-inmates and get back to you.

Child is maybe 12, and is on her own. I'll see if she keeps doing it.

bigTillyMint Tue 16-Apr-13 21:20:51

It is possible that the school is still not open for children for some reason. Or it maybe that she's on an exclusion. Or truantingwink Do you know her? Or do your DD's?

CV, I can't believe you had the rads on today - it's positively tropical here smile

motherinferior Tue 16-Apr-13 21:23:18

All our local state schools are open; it's possible she's at the private school down the road. Or, as you say, on an exclusion. Or maybe she doesn't have a school yet in the area (I don't know how long she's lived in our road). I don't know her, and nor do the girls.

I know it's none of my business but it takes a village (or in our case a slightly scummy road with a drunks' hostel at the end of it) and all that, innit.

bigTillyMint Tue 16-Apr-13 21:31:21

That's true, she may not be in school. She may even be HE!

I'm not even sure who you would contact!

motherinferior Tue 16-Apr-13 21:38:56

Well, I did think of HE but frankly I'm not sure if just riding your bike up and down the road all day is madly educational.

bigTillyMint Tue 16-Apr-13 21:51:42


CointreauVersial Tue 16-Apr-13 22:14:30

BTM, the rads were only on because the plumber was testing them, having flushed the system.

The irony of finally having working central heating just as the weather warms up is not lost on me. angry

wilbur Tue 16-Apr-13 22:34:29

MI and BTM - can't believe you're going frock shopping in W Dulwich on the one day I can't come and meet you! Have got BIL's 40th lunch (kids nicely dressed and on best behaviour....)

CV - you'll be happy about those rads come November. I would love to know why the rad closest to the boiler in our house is the coldest and the one on the landing (useful!) is the hottest.

CointreauVersial Tue 16-Apr-13 22:44:03

grin Wilbur, I did seriously contemplate sleeping in the utility room during the most recent cold snap, because it's the warmest room in the house by a long way. The coldest are the living room and our bedroom. hmm

Blackduck Wed 17-Apr-13 06:15:50

smile re rads! In old house the warmest was the downstairs shower room. Here it's ds's room or the hall - but it's a rubbish system all round. I survived yesterday okay, but actually feel flakier this morning!

bigTillyMint Wed 17-Apr-13 06:47:04

Oh wilbur, that's a shame. Is BIL's lunch in a posho restaurant?

The rads in our bedroom and the kitchen never seem hot enough - we have had the kitchen one replaced, so can't say it's just because it's oldconfused

My legs are stiff and jelly-like (if that's possible), but it's my early morning in the gym today - do I stay or do I go?

hattymattie Wed 17-Apr-13 06:55:54

V jealous of shopping trip. I think we need good family/friend event so I can at least buy a dress.

BTM - I always find it better to go to the gym and work through the painsmile

bigTillyMint Wed 17-Apr-13 08:00:34

Well I went! Not quite the usual standard of workout, but better than nothing! I think I need to keep working in the squats as that's where the stiffness is.

BD, I am only just feeling human again after the 12hr flight on Friday night. Not doing longhaul again for a while!

rubyrubyruby Wed 17-Apr-13 08:15:55

I've just been invited to a 50th birthday party in June.
It's Sod's law it's going to clash <<sulks>>

wilbur Wed 17-Apr-13 11:41:48

BTM - BIL b'day is in a posh pub and menu looks v nice. It is in Lincolnshire though... Still kids love seeing all the cousins and it will be a very jolly do as dh's family are all lovely.

Now Crepeys, I have a dilemma and I need advice. Dh is planning something for our 15th wedding anniversary at the end of May. I know this because he had to ask me about the timings for DS1's scout camp at the beginning of half term. I have recently started using dh's old phone handset as mine is bust and for some reason the app that records voicemail, is still getting his messages and not mine. So I now also know that dh is planning for us to go to a b&b in Angelsey for a couple of nights and leave the two smaller kids with my inlaws in Birmingham on the way. This is all very lovely, but Angelsey is so flipping far away and I don't really want to go. [ungrateful cow emoticon] Leaving the kids with inlaws means a 2hr drive anyway, and then it's a further 3.5 hrs to Angelsey. On the way up I guess we could stop for lunch and make a day of the drive, but on the way back we will need to get ds1 from Scouts and so will be driving for 6+ hours. Dh doesn't really mind driving, but since we moved house an have not yet got organised with local living here, I spend way, way too much time in the car and am beginning to really resent it. I would so much rather go to somewhere close to the in laws and spend the saved driving time (and petrol money) pottering round some shops, or staring into space over a coffee, or even talking to dh, at a pinch. Would I be a complete bitch to tell him I know about the plans and could we please do something else? I know he is hoping to surprise me, and I hate to spoil that, but right now I think I would really not enjoy 2 days in windswept Angelsey. Help!

wilbur Wed 17-Apr-13 11:42:27

Anglesey, even. Never know how to spell that.

herbaceous Wed 17-Apr-13 11:46:52

All sphincters clenched: it's school decision day down our way. Trying to be Terribly Positive about all the schools on the list, as highly unlikely to get choice number 1.

wilbur Wed 17-Apr-13 11:47:53

Everything crossed for you, herbs.

bigTillyMint Wed 17-Apr-13 12:30:19

Everything crossed here too Herbs!

Wilbur,Anglesey does seem a strange choice given the distances and the windsweptness of it - does he have a special reason for choosing it?!
However, we have done similar dropoffs and distances for weekends away, and I have to say I don't mind the driving as no DC in the car = our choice of music and chat!

If it was me, I think I'd have to let him know that I'd been getting the voicemails and see what he said about why he chose that B&B. But I'm very upfrontsmile

motherinferior Wed 17-Apr-13 13:48:50

Herbs, I am clenched as a clenched thing.

Wilbur, I think you do have to bite the bullet. Just in case there is some fabulous reason he'll Reveal to you...OR why don't you announce you think you should celebrate your 15th and indeed why don't you go to <insert lovely location of choice>?

I just blew two hundred smackers on flights to Berlin shock DP is going to a conference and suggested he stayed out a couple of days and I joined him. I never do things like this. (Going on a Friday yoicks the price up - they were Easyjet!)

bigTillyMint Wed 17-Apr-13 13:59:47

MIenvy Never been to Berlin!

beachyhead Wed 17-Apr-13 14:14:15

Oh good luck Herbs, have you heard yet and how do they tell you?

Wilbur, I'd quite like to go to Anglesey, but it does seem a bit of a schlep for 2 nights... I would own up to the voice mail mix up, and admit you know the plans.

It's very hard as, if you voice your disapproval of the plans he will put on his 'but I did this for us' and 'I tried really hard to do something special' face.

I'd just go along with it to be honest. Probably not worth rocking the boat for.

If I complained, my dh would spend the next year saying 'well, I booked a lovely break, but Beachy didn't want to go, so she made me change it!'

bigTillyMint Wed 17-Apr-13 14:20:53

Yes Beachy, my DH would do the same.

If he was to ever book a surprise weekend away, of course!smile

motherinferior Wed 17-Apr-13 14:23:37

Hmm yes, why d'you think I've consented to blowing cash on Berlin (and we've still to find a hotel)...? "Well, I suggested Berlin but you didn't want to go..."

motherinferior Wed 17-Apr-13 14:24:03

I also get a freebie in Guernsey in May <pushes boat out>

Blackduck Wed 17-Apr-13 15:01:25

wilbur I think you need to come clean - you could come to my neck of the woods and visit me instead ;)

Berlin - oh so want to go there - went as a child when it was still in East German!

I am going to Barca in July/Aug with dp - again if I said no he'd say 'well I offered'....I am, however, taking small one. We haven't been away without small one since he was, well, a small one.

bigTillyMint Wed 17-Apr-13 15:08:58

Barca is fab, BD. We went sans enfants, stayed up late and slept in really late (courtesy of fantastic window shutters!), but I think it would be fine with a child - lots to see and do.

wilbur Wed 17-Apr-13 15:21:51

Berlin - how fab. One of my great life regrets (among a legion) is not going with some friends in the late 80s. I was planning to go but as always, didn't have the money and thought I should be careful. Friends went, saw the Wall and went through Checkpoint Charlie etc. envy

Thanks for wise words on the minibreak. Dh is not the type to bring up me not wanting to go along with his plan, so at least I don't have to deal with that! Will ponder.

Stropperella Wed 17-Apr-13 16:50:04

Ahhh, Berlin is a most excellent place. We have a conference to go to there next summer (assuming life events do not get in the way, as they often do) - and I am wondering how to go without children. We have quite a few friends there and there will be partying. I liked the Hackesche Markt/Höfe, but I've not been for a long while.

Hope you've got good new, Herbs.

bigTillyMint Wed 17-Apr-13 17:10:59

I think it may be 6pm in London? Fingers still crossed, Herbs!

DD has come home from school with yet another "dilemma" involving a group of friends and a ticket that she has paid one of the friends a lot of money for. She is being incredibly grown-up about it. I am supposed to be giving good advice, but it's a tricky situation. She is soooo fed up with the bitchy, etc shenanigans in Y9. No wonder she spends time with her boyfriend - so much more straight-up!

CointreauVersial Wed 17-Apr-13 17:28:13

Ooh, Herbs, fingers crossed.....

I am waiting to hear from my best friend if she has got her youngest into DD2's school.

MI - Berlin sounds lovely - DH went last year for a week, and originally I was going to do the same as you, and join him for a couple of days, but it didn't work out in the end. I did do that very successfully in Barcelona a few years back - it's surprising how invigorating a child-free city break can be.

Anglesey.....hmmmm....I've only ever driven through it, tearing up and down the A55 to Holyhead. I guess only you know how your DH will react if you scupper his plans, but with no DCs the journey becomes part of the holiday and it could well be a fun break.

Stropperella Wed 17-Apr-13 17:29:31

Ahem - "news", I meant, obvs. smile

Ho yes, Y9 shenanigans. We had plenty of those this time last year (dunno if you remember the whole French exchange fiasco).

Dd had a spectacular and completely unacceptable meltdown after school yesterday. She pushed me and dh around and screamed and shouted. I had firm words with her later when she had calmed down, as she really did Cross That Line. We'll have to see how she deals with the next lot of exam stress next week.

bigTillyMint Wed 17-Apr-13 17:40:05

Yes Stropps, I remember! She is currently getting advice from friends...

I am NOT looking forward to the GCSE exam stress. DS has exams next week and his inability to focus and concentrate has become starkly obvioussad

Blackduck Wed 17-Apr-13 17:59:27

Any news Herbs?
BTM been to Barca a few times BC so I guess we have to take him grin
Oh Stropps sounds tough in your house at the moment. Dread to think what ds will be like at exam time.

herbaceous Wed 17-Apr-13 18:35:03

Fourth choice. Far from great, but not bad enough to appeal.

Cremolafoam Wed 17-Apr-13 18:54:22

Oh herbs, competition must be stiff. I really hope that the school will' fit ' as in the end that's what matters most.
What a nerve-wracking time for you.
AND YOU Stropps . Jeez that year 9 nonsense( age 12-16 for me) was grizzly . Dds bestest friend from the age of 4 dropped her like a stone with a million repercussions( much screaming and self loathing , becoming a gothshock and random snarling) I was beside myself so you haven't sympathies. Fwiw dds turned out just fine smile

Berlin - so jealous MI . Great city. We sayed in a vair naice apartment of Orianburger Strasse . Good location. My recommendation is the Stasi headquarters museum if you like that sort of weirdness - I do grin

Wilbur- Anglesey is rather pretty in places, Beaumaris nice village and lovely forays up in to Snowdonia worth a jaunt. There's also a waitrosegrin- where the Duchess buys he naice ham.

Cremolafoam Wed 17-Apr-13 18:55:23

* have my sympathies - bloody phone
HAVE !!!

bigTillyMint Wed 17-Apr-13 19:06:09

Oh Herbs, make sure you are on the waiting lists for the others and hold your nerve - there is bound to be some movement before Septembersmile And I was just wathcing BBC news which was quoting some ridiculously high % getting first or top 3 choiceangry
And visit the one you've got again - there may be good stuff that you didn't notice before.

DD's dilemma has taken another twist....

hattymattie Wed 17-Apr-13 19:13:07

BTM - I so feel for you - my DD1 had a terrible time with other girls - age 14 seems an especially bad age. Now she's 16 she has her girlfriends she can trust plus nice boyfriend and lots of male friends who she says are much less complicated and judgy.

By the way DD1 went for a week to Berlin on an exchange visit - and what did she come back with - loads of new underwear from Primark, Berlin (very exciting for her as we don't have this in France).

motherinferior Wed 17-Apr-13 19:47:14

Herbs, stick on EVERY waiting list

Cremolafoam Wed 17-Apr-13 21:15:56

Sorry BTM I obv meant you.
My heads up me arse today.

Have just been at a poetry reading with this chap
Who has reduced my stress-headed little self to tears.sad
He moved me

herbaceous Wed 17-Apr-13 21:24:22

So. The school in question gets a 'good' ofsted, seems brilliantly caring and inclusive, and would no doubt be fine.

BUT, it's one failing is that it doesn't cater for 'the more able pupils', and it's on two sites. The nearer one, for the younger children, isn't too far from us, but the main site is miles. Well, a 15-minute walk. So further than three other schools.

Will put him down for top two, once I can work out how to do it.

Cremolafoam Wed 17-Apr-13 21:33:20

I can't do anything right today

I'm sorry herbs . I'm talking absolute nonsense today, unless you needed a holiday rental in sScotland blush

I'm going away now

QueenQueenie Wed 17-Apr-13 21:35:00

Hi Herbs, Caring and inclusive is definitely a good start! Fingers crossed it all works out for the best...
Reading all your posts makes me want to go on a glamorous city break with dh. Need to make a cunning plan. Anyone been to Madrid? My main millstone in life is the bloody dog.
Dcs back to school tomorrow, hurrah! It's full steam ahead to ds1's GCSEs. Wish me him luck.

Blackduck Wed 17-Apr-13 21:37:23

Herbs fight for other places, but...
You can top up - doable at primary as long as he doesn't disengage and MAKE them support him. Tiger mother ;) (ds's last school must have hated me for challenging them)
15 min walk?! Pah - last school was 30 mins minimum... I know it is a pain, but they speed up ;)

Blackduck Wed 17-Apr-13 21:39:28

Yes queenie been to Madrid - personally prefer Barca - or if you like culture and tres good food, but less concerned re weather my fav is Bilbo/San Sebastian

motherinferior Wed 17-Apr-13 21:44:00

Herbs, really don't let a 15 minute walk put you off.

QueenQueenie Wed 17-Apr-13 21:46:24

Hmmm, <scratches chin>. Have "done" Barca not too long ago and love it... I do fancy Bilbao... will have to investigate.

herbaceous Wed 17-Apr-13 21:49:23

Fifteen minutes isn't much I realise, but my first three were all closer! It was one of the top 100 improving schools, but a new head is starting in september, so who knows whsy will happen!

Blackduck Wed 17-Apr-13 21:49:34

Bilbao is fab - Guggenheim for starters - great hotels. Trip out to San Sebastián - arzaks, Martin B, mugaritez - tapas, my fav fav Spanish place ;) - pm me if you want info smile

Blackduck Wed 17-Apr-13 21:55:20

Stay here smile at this

rubyrubyruby Wed 17-Apr-13 21:57:18

I went to a fantastic wedding in Bilbao once. I drove over - Portsmouth to Bilbao - like a mini cruise!

We are on the GCSE countdown now too.

Herbs - 4th! is it ok? Our nearest school was 20mins walk. Hope it all works out ok.

You're all very chatty, I can't keep up and work is getting in the way!

QueenQueenie Wed 17-Apr-13 22:06:00

Ta v much BD (although that giant flowery scary puppy gave me a fright!). If it moves closer to reality from complete fantasy I'll pick your brains.

Ruby, how is the revision going? Are you Is your dc feeling OK?

rubyrubyruby Wed 17-Apr-13 22:19:01

It's my DS2 Queenie.
He appeared to be revising over the holidays but who knows eh?! Lots of notes everywhere.

CointreauVersial Wed 17-Apr-13 22:24:47

15 minute walk? The three schools my DCs have attended are between 4 and 10 miles away. I'm very envy of folk who can walk to school.

My friend's DD didn't get either of the two schools she wanted; unfortunately she lives in a rural location and isn't in any clear catchments. But as I said to her, there is so much time before September for things to shake out. Herbs, go and see your school again, you may be reassured.

herbaceous Wed 17-Apr-13 22:31:40

TBH, I never even visited this one. Once I do, I may love it.

As for walking time, it's so dense round here we've got about 10 schools within a 20-minute walk. But you can't really drive to any of them - no parking - meaning a long round trip.

QueenQueenie Wed 17-Apr-13 22:57:55

A scooter may be what you need!

bigTillyMint Thu 18-Apr-13 06:44:14

Herbs, caring and inclusive is really important! And a Good Ofsted is also good, particuarly in the current climate. How long ago was it? And who says that it isn't good for the more able? Ofsted? If so, they will be addressing this now, if it ever needed addressing anyway <don't hold much truck with Ofsted> GO AND VISIT! You need to see it and make your own decisions about it!
Split site could also be good as not so rumbunctious in the playground for new starters, and 15mins is nothing - think of it as daily exercise. And when he is older, you won't be taking him anyway!

bigTillyMint Thu 18-Apr-13 07:03:20

Like your poet, Cremo - you#ve got your finger on the pulse!

Stropperella Thu 18-Apr-13 09:50:36

Herbs, I can see the 15-minute walk would be majorly annoying if you have to pass your first, second and third choice schools on the way. Bummer. But I would agree with others who have said "caring and inclusive" is pretty important. After all, "inclusive" must also mean taking into account the needs of the more able, I would say. Is also very true that the split site is good in terms of making things less overwhelming.
The school should identify the exceptionally able at an early stage and they have to have some measures in place for dealing with them, but you can definitely top up at home with things such as music lessons, language learning, chess, drama etc, as in the early years maybe "extending sideways" is more beneficial than just pushing them faster through the curriculum.

bigTillyMint Thu 18-Apr-13 10:00:36

So true Stropps!

herbaceous Thu 18-Apr-13 10:51:27

Looking at Google Maps, it's more like a 25-minute walk. Grr...

But Stropps, and all, you are of course right. He will be fine. It's just so confusing and stressful. While Ofsted reports are of course flawed, they're the only things we have to judge the school on. Even visiting doesn't necessarily help, as I don't know what to look for, other than a 'nice feeling' which doesn't mean much.

School choice 1 is the closest, but is the Ofsted Outstanding school all the middle-class parents want, and where people rent houses on the roads nearby to get into. Two Choirs! Most of his nursery friends will be going there, and lots of my friends' children.

School choice 2 was what I was expecting. Brand new building, wonderful head, separate reception building to the rest of the school.

Number 3 was in the opposite direction, but a good school.

The one we got is just an unknown quantity, and takes me right out of my comfort zone. The main building is in Walthamstow Town Centre, and looks a bit, well, rough. All busy roads, lorries, bustle, etc. And 25 minutes away!

Stropperella Thu 18-Apr-13 11:06:59

Much sympathy from here, Herbs. I can completely see that it must be a real blow if most of his nursery friends are off to choice 1. However, as everyone else has said, do stick on the waiting lists. There will be moving before Sept. Also, movement AFTER September, I'd imagine. I know plenty of people who have moved children around schools in the early years with no ill-effects. I think moving school becomes a tougher prospect once they get to secondary age. This is another reason why keeping some extra-curricular activities going is important - your child meets children from other schools which may be very helpful if they have to move school at any point. Hopefully, your ds won't have to, but it's maybe worth bearing in mind.

bigTillyMint Thu 18-Apr-13 11:12:45

Herbs{{{hugs}} It is a real worry - of course you want your DS to go to a school nearby and good - who wouldn't. Very frustrating for you. However, go and visit the one you've got and look for the good points (when we were looking at secondary schools, I had gut-feelings about schools and chose the ones which I felt I would like to go to if I was a child) and make sure you are on the waiting lists for all the others!

One of my friends didn't get anything at all for her DD2 - the local authority appear to have cancelled the application for some unknown reasonangry

herbaceous Thu 18-Apr-13 11:19:38

I'm not even sure how to get on the waiting lists. There was no info from the admissions people about it. I woke up at 3 this morning, panicking, and emailed the admissions office, and schools 1 and 2, in a scattergun approach!

motherinferior Thu 18-Apr-13 11:55:40

Darling, ring the schools directly and ask them.

I would also say, on my experience of (a) waiting lists and (b) first terms at school, that even if a place at a school you prefer doesn't come up till during the first term, you could consider switching then.

herbaceous Thu 18-Apr-13 12:03:10

I emailed one school to go on the waiting list, and they told me to ask the admissions people. I got an automated 'yeah, thanks for your email. Whatevs'.

I may have to phone people up, but today is going to be a mare, with every local parent on the phone, meaning taking ages to get through to the usual slack-jawed halfwits at the council.

bigTillyMint Thu 18-Apr-13 12:07:15

I think you are automatically on their waiting lists, but keep ringing!

Blackduck Thu 18-Apr-13 14:08:14

Think BTM is right - ds was on a waiting list for a school I put first, they just regularly wrote to me asking if I wanted to stay on the list.
Sorry to hear its so fraught but lots of good advice here! Ds's current school is outstanding (or whatever the Ofsted jargon is), but tbh if he had hated it/not settled I'd have moved him like a shot because being happy is more important!

herbaceous Thu 18-Apr-13 14:17:39

The letter has just arrived, complete with form to tick if we want to be on the waiting lists. So, that's alright then!

I've started a thread on Facebook, asking for opinions on the school, and so far the feedback has been v positive. Because it's on a new site, but an old building, it's going to start off small, which is probably a good thing. And apparently it's very creative. So, looking up.

School number 1 had 59 siblings, and only 57 other places, and a distance cut-off of .28 miles. So, no surprise we didn't get in really.

Right. I'll shut up soon. In fitness news, I did one of those run/walk/run things back from nursery in preparation for route march to/from new school. But have now been put off by reading the 'poohing while running' thread.

motherinferior Thu 18-Apr-13 14:29:28

Herbs, we've all been through it. Believe me grin and just wait till it's secondaries

herbaceous Thu 18-Apr-13 14:53:17

I cannot bear the idea of doing this all again for secondaries, when it will be a gazillion times worse as it actually matters. I even had a conversation with a fellow nursery mother about tutoring for entrance exams this morning!

motherinferior Thu 18-Apr-13 15:01:10

Herbs, do not listen to her. Just focus on the next step. FWIW secondaries may not be a gazillion times worse - we went, in the end (yy after mucho angsting ignores everyone who had to put up with her at the time ) for the local option which DD1 was absolutely bound to get into.

Blackduck Thu 18-Apr-13 15:01:54

please dont mention secodaries - I have my fingers in my ears and am whistling, can't hear you, la la.....

Actually it is fairly easy here - choise of two (at a push three), or pay.....

Blackduck Thu 18-Apr-13 15:03:17

I need to make the decision this year - although ds would appear to have already decided (despite not having seen either of them)

bigTillyMint Thu 18-Apr-13 15:15:08

Totally agree with MI - Secondaries was fine for us, despite living in London<gasp> - we had a list of 6 outstanding schools which even 5 years previously would not have been the case. 4 of the schools were definitely possible for us to get into, so not such a bad situation!

herbaceous Thu 18-Apr-13 15:30:57

Well, at the moment, secondaries are grim. Our nearest one is one of the worst in London. The others are OK, pretty uninspiring, unless you're a girl. I'm contemplating moving to Redbridge for secondaries - one borough further out.

motherinferior Thu 18-Apr-13 15:32:11

Hang on a few years! grin

herbaceous Thu 18-Apr-13 15:46:46

Ooh I know a lot can change in a few years, but I'm keeping my options open. Or, rather, his options!

Anyone else just have a crazy hailstorm?

motherinferior Thu 18-Apr-13 15:49:08

Yes, and I think poor old DD1 is in it <slight unworthy snigger>

bigTillyMint Thu 18-Apr-13 15:49:58

DH used to teach in Redbridge - selectiveswink

It's peeing down here - gone black and thunder! Just as I have to walk home.

beachyhead Thu 18-Apr-13 16:14:25

Gorgeous weather here...Just as well as I ventured earlier into the teen grotto my dd1 calls her room to try and find out where the houses supply of towels had gone.....

There are NINE towels flapping in the wind after a very hot wash....

GCSE revision seems to have been interrupted by going back to school here. She's so tired by the time she gets home, very little is done.

At the moment, I'm not sure which way it's going to go!

Blackduck Thu 18-Apr-13 16:34:00

We have all weather here today - windy, sunshine, rain...

CointreauVersial Thu 18-Apr-13 16:47:49

Yup, just hailed here. Now sunny again.

I'm trying to put off the task of tidying the house now the plumber has finished. As he needed to get to every single radiator the house now resembles a junk shop, with random items of furniture shoved into the middle of each room, and displaced ornaments everywhere. This has uncovered lots of piles of dust which aren't usually visible. blush

Herbs - regarding waiting lists, I think you do go on them automatically, for any schools which were higher on your choice list than the one you were given. Let us know if the one you've been given looks better once you've seen it - it's sounding better already.

And regarding provision for stretching more able pupils - they pretty much all do that to some extent, surely?

motherinferior Thu 18-Apr-13 16:50:52

Also some schools do this in a very high-profile way (friends have kids who've been effectively in a G&T stream) and others in a very light touch one.

Either that or every single child at DD2's school is spectacularly thick, of course grin

beachyhead Thu 18-Apr-13 17:17:04

I reckon the hail must be on its way... Plotting CV versus BTM, I reckon I've got about 45 minutes of drying time leftgrin

wilbur Thu 18-Apr-13 17:23:58

Nine towels, Beachy! [snort] Although it's better than DS1's single towel used repeatedly and then stuffed under his desk until it is actually made of mould. Boys, eeeurgh.

Herbs - sorry the school choice was not what you hoped for, but I echo the others about visiting the school and getting a feel, and if you do decide to move him at some point, it's amazing how kids take it in their stride. Kids move in and out of dcs' primary all the time (there's a lot of moving to the country round here) and they all seem to hit the ground running.

motherinferior Thu 18-Apr-13 17:43:24

I have to interview this chap on Tuesday grin

bigTillyMint Thu 18-Apr-13 18:35:19

DH would be more impressed than me, I'm afraid MI!

Beachy, nine towels!!!! DD usually has one or maybe two in there! Did the rain/hail come? Sunny again here!

rubyrubyruby Thu 18-Apr-13 19:19:42

Talking of rain and washing - I now have a lovely new washing machine!

In other news, the dog is on incontinence medication and I've had an unbelievably tough week at work. I'm sure I will feel a sense of achievement tomorrow but at the moment I'm just knackered.

rubyrubyruby Thu 18-Apr-13 19:20:55

I'm also jealous of potential crepey dress shopping trip.

bigTillyMint Thu 18-Apr-13 19:27:24

Incontinence medication for dogs? Who knew!

And new washing machine? That was quick - thought you were only hammering the old one yesterday?!

Stropperella Thu 18-Apr-13 19:27:59

Dh had his latest cancer checkup and his all-important PSA test came back as ... normal! He will have his next checkup in August. It's all looking good so far, so he is convinced he is cured. Let's hope so.

bigTillyMint Thu 18-Apr-13 19:30:13

Stropps, that's fantasticsmilewineflowers

rubyrubyruby Thu 18-Apr-13 19:35:01

Oh that's great news Strops smile

Yes bTM. I ordered the new one and they were taking the old one away but it still had water in and I couldn't open the drain/filter. So I smashed it with a hammer grin

bigTillyMint Thu 18-Apr-13 19:36:09


Blackduck Thu 18-Apr-13 19:48:27

Stropps fab news - crack open the wine!!
Dp went back to the car after ds's piano lesson only to have some guy claim his car had rolled into his. Guy had called the police. Then neighbours came out and dp found himself in the middle of a slanging match! He is sure he put hand break on and couldn't see any damage so thinks guy was trying to pull a fast one as there is clearly some history between him and his neighbours and car parking! Police not interested in the cars, but did have words with both neighbours re the disturbance!!

beachyhead Thu 18-Apr-13 21:36:00

Great news Stropps... That must be such a relief...

The rain came as I was collecting towels in <<smug>>

I too am very jealous of frock shopping! I still have my James Bond themed ball to sort myself out for and I'm doing the ostrich thing, by pretending it's not happening grin

CointreauVersial Thu 18-Apr-13 21:47:41

Oh Strops, what a relief! That's brilliant news.

Yay for new washing machine, Ruby. I also couldn't empty mine when I replaced it; of course it piddled lavishly along the hallway as it was being dragged out.

DH is being an arse at the moment - pointedly ignoring me as I scurried around putting the house back into order post-plumber ("why don't you leave it until the weekend?"), then, with a hefty sigh and a faint smell of burning martyr he starts clanking about with a screwdriver, replacing some pipe boxing that really could have waited. angry

MrsSchadenfreude Thu 18-Apr-13 22:03:22

Yay Strops!

We are going back for funeral on Monday (well, driving back on Sunday), and will spend the Tuesday looking at potential school for DD1 (the one she desperately wants to go to) here - we paid the money for them to deign to look at her application, now waiting to see if they will have her. We will also go and look at a potential school for DD2 this one. I have emailed another school that is close by, that I would like to compare (v different, single sex, uniform, quite academic) but they are clearly not interested as they haven't bothered to reply to any of my emails. So if we really like this school, do we just send her there? confused Or should I come back again to look at more schools. It is an utter pain, that we are looking at 12 + not 11+ or 13+ as most schools just don't take them at this stage.

Not looking forward to funeral, not least because I will need to keep my mother away from her 92 year old cousin that she fell out with big time at my great great Aunt's funeral in 1984, and hasn't spoken to since. She has previous, for kicking off at funerals. At my Gran's, a few years ago, I heard her brother say to her, wagging his finger, as the car drove off "Now don't start..."

Cremolafoam Thu 18-Apr-13 22:17:44

Strops I am really happy for you and your dh. That's just wonderfulthanks

Herbs I so hope that things work out with schools. Agree with others that lots can change between now and September.

MI I think he's a bit of a lovey isn't he? Wasn't much good at the cha cha chaaaaa. Hahahaaagrin

Well my cup of shit overfloweth here today . Dh has been signed off on stress by the gp following months of corporate bullying. He's a broken man frankly. Dd is slogging away for exams and toying with full blown hysteria. We are trying to batten down the hatches and stay calm and quiet. I am using all my will to not spontaneously combust.sad

MrsSchadenfreude Thu 18-Apr-13 22:22:19

Oh Crem. sad That is shit. IS anything being done about the bullying?

Cremolafoam Thu 18-Apr-13 22:40:43

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

MrsSchadenfreude Thu 18-Apr-13 22:49:17

That sounds horrendous. Sounds like the company need some kind of big legal case to teach them a lesson.

Cremolafoam Thu 18-Apr-13 22:56:48

We are working on it mrs s. we've got a fantastic solicitor who is an employment area expert as well as our good friend.but ATM dh needs to get better first.hmm
And after that move jobs. This has been going on for over a year. There's only so much you can take before you really need to walk away.
The bottom line is the woman just doesn't like him. That's basically it.
Anyhoo. The St. Christopher's skool menu for the week is entirely vegetarian I think. How novelgrin

CointreauVersial Thu 18-Apr-13 23:16:44

Crem, how awful.

No-one deserves to face that kind of thing day in day out. I hope your DH feels stronger after a bit of time away from it all.

Blackduck Fri 19-Apr-13 06:13:03

Oh Cremo so sorry to hear that. Anything like that is so stressful. My dad had something similar when I was a teen and it was awful - he. Ended up with a dose of shingles asa result and was off work for three months as a result.
Glad you have good legal rep, but yes, in the end, for his (and your) sanity he needs to get out.

House is nice a toasty this am - could be because dp left the oven on all night hmm

rubyrubyruby Fri 19-Apr-13 06:53:15

Crem - awful situation sad x

bigTillyMint Fri 19-Apr-13 07:00:24

Cremo, sounds awfulsad Fingers crossed he can get back on his feet and find another job,

MrsS, are you planning to live out that way instead of Elephant then? Or will your DD's board? Both look lovely - I would go and see them and if you and your DD's like them, go for it!

BD, that's my trick, but it's usually a burner and not for more than half an hour or so!

rubyrubyruby Fri 19-Apr-13 08:05:55

Just had a look at those links MrsS and they do look good. Hope the trip back goes well and the funeral is without drama. Did you manage to find DD2 something to wear?

Blackduck Fri 19-Apr-13 08:40:25

Mrs S those schools look fab - can I go smile

Cremo - hope life is calmer today, and that both dp and dd are okay.

BTM - he had left a ring on as well (if he thinks this can get him out of cooking he has another think coming)

ruby your hammer/washing machine made smile - I have the wool wash and the hand wash this weekend - oh joy! Plus the house needs cleaning/hoovering - never lived somewhere where the dust accumulates so quickly - anyone got a theory on that?

rubyrubyruby Fri 19-Apr-13 09:10:08

BD - my house gets very dusty. You are more rural now aren't you?
I'm surrounded by fields and crops and I'm convinced thats why. Especially in summer when they have planted wheat or barley next door. The field is literally 3 metres from my lounge - and when the combine harvester comes ........... grin

motherinferior Fri 19-Apr-13 09:28:27

Crem, how awful. Stropps, how fabulous.

Different sorts of flowers to you both.

hattymattie Fri 19-Apr-13 09:49:55

Oh Strop's I'm so pleased for you. My friend's DH got an all clear recently. It must be such a relief. Crem sad.

BD - I don't know if it's a man thing but they'll do nothing for months and then decide to start some DIY at a really inconvenient time like late evening - I think just to prove their point.

Mrs S - the schools look fabulous. I'd love some nice British schools that encourage rather than try to break students. At the moment I have a DD who thinks she can't do maths even though she's great at it. 12/20 is near the top of the class (this is in a selective school of good students). Very demotivating. The kids think they're no good and then usually get great marks in the Bac'. I would love a system based on carrot rather than stick!

Feeling very grumpy and Francois Hollande is going to scrap the family allowance and raise our taxes. One or the other would seem fair. If he think's we're rich he needs to come and look at our cracked roof an leaky loo hmm

Stropperella Fri 19-Apr-13 09:56:03

I have a bit of a prejudice against that St Chris place, as ex-MIL sent her eldest son there as he was a bit "different" and he came out of there a lot more "different", according to h's account (it was his older b). However, that was a looong time ago. Doesn't look like the ethos has changed that much,though. grin He got really pissed off with the vegetarian diet. smile Arguably, his "differentness" wasn't the school's fault...

I hope your trip goes smoothly, MrsS, and your mother behaves herself. And that you manage to get the schools thing all done and dusted so that you all know where you are come Sept.

Crem, your poor dh. I hope he is feeling better soon and that your lawyer will get a good result - and quickly.

Many thanks for all good wishes and happiness grin. I am sure we will be celebrating this interim progress when we get a chance between jobs. Tonight we are enjoying the "delights" of Swindon as dh is taking dd to a McFly concert. Hahahaha. He is kicking himself for agreeing, nay even volunteering, to do this now. He volunteered in a slightly beery moment of madness before Christmas. Ds and I are going to be hanging out and eating pizza as no under-14s are allowed at the concert. Am sure dh will be the oldest by about 50 years <snigger>. I can't quite remember how we ended up going along just to hang about. Something about ds desperately just wanting to stay in a hotel. Or something. Poor dog has to go to kennels. Oops, which reminds me. Must dash.

hattymattie Fri 19-Apr-13 09:58:44

Stropp's your poor DH will be the male - I think you should do the right thing here and leave him with DSwink

hattymattie Fri 19-Apr-13 09:59:03

er that should read "the only male"

herbaceous Fri 19-Apr-13 10:36:23

Marvellous marvellous news re your DH strops. And good to see he's celebrating in such, er, novel style. I think 'the male' was about right. Though I do have a weakness for the McFly ditty 'It's all about you'.

But crem - what utter shitness re your DH's work. Why are there so many of these insecure, incompetent arseholes in positions of authority? Were they given the job by similarly insecure/incompetent arseholes? I think this could be the problem...

I am now calmer re schools. It seems that the second site of the school, where DS will be, is only one-form entry, so for the next year he'll only be with 60 other children (reception and year 1). Yet get the benefits of being part of a large, well-regarded school - good teachers, expertise, after-school clubs, etc. They even have Leyton Orient come in to teach football!

Choice 1 has four-form intake (though only reception, year 1 and 2 on one site) - so 480 children on one site!

wilbur Fri 19-Apr-13 10:40:55

Oh MrsS, have just had a tear in my eye looking at ACS website! I grew up very close to it, and as we had lived in US and mum was Canadian, we had lots of friends among the lovely expat Americans. We used to go to their awesome fetes and Christmas dos and it's the most brilliant place to get the skinny on upcoming yard sales so that you can buy amazing American washing machines and dryers from people moving back to the States. Americans won't go anywhere without a decent tumble dryer grin. How would dd1 get there? It's quick on the train to Cobham, but the school is a way from the station, do they have a bus? Brilliant place though, and worth the journey. [gets misty eyed about youth in stockbroker belt confused]

Crem - so sorry about dh's situation, that's very crap. My dh was bullied at work last year and then fired in a very dodgy way, but couldn't face a tribunal (basically it would have been presided over by the head of the company who was the bully/liar/thief/cheat who ground him down in the first place). At the time I wanted him to fight as there was quite a lot of money at stake, and we needed it, but he decided to walk away and that was probably the right thing to do. Anyway, he has been at his new job nearly a year now and is very happy and getting his confidence back. I doubt he will ever leave this place, though, or ask for a raise or promotion or anything as he has been out of work too much in the past few years to ever take any risks or venture anything new ever again sad. Still, I have a happy dh again which is main thing smile. I hope your dh find a way through too.

Stropps - very pleased to hear the good medical news. How marvellous. grin

Cremolafoam Fri 19-Apr-13 11:57:47

Thanks so much for kind words re dh.
It will take time. Yes it seems arse- bosses are rife.
Dd calmer today too. I think she was probably picking up on our stress.

We are doing a bit of DIY today just to keep our minds off things and also try to achieve small things.

wilbur Fri 19-Apr-13 12:46:49

I fully endorse the DIY route to sanity, Crem. When things are terrible it's good to have something to point to and say, well at least that is better than it was. After my mum died I painted a lot of window frames grin. Although don't try wallpapering with dh as that will end in divorce.

Cremolafoam Fri 19-Apr-13 12:54:30

Agree Wilbur . Wallpapering is the road to 'trial separation" as demonstrated by my mum and dad: dad hung an entire room with vast brown flowery 70s wallpaper upside down shock
All the poppies were growing downwards . The fact that this sticks in my head says a great deal about how serious it was at the time.grin

Will stick to minor sandpapering and paint touch ups . Might stretch to a new loo seat , but don't want to push it.(!)

Blackduck Fri 19-Apr-13 12:56:46

YY to DIY - I had a friend who had a couple of months off with stress, she gave herself achieveable 'projects' - she just hoped that her 7 year old (at the time) didn't notice and start demanding that she collect him straight from school rather than him going to the after school club grin

Unfortunately dp does NOT see DIY as a means of de-stressing, as far as he is concerned the letters stand fro Don't Involve Yourself.
I have decided I will have my window seat even if the bloody bathroom doesn't get done, so am going to contact the carpenter and get him going on it.

Yes Ruby, we are more rural - I thought the air would be cleaner, but maybe there are just less places for the dust to stick!

hattymattie Fri 19-Apr-13 13:23:13

grin at poppies growing downwards - why don't men see this sort of thing. It sounds like my mismatched bathroom tiles. Did your Dad change them Crem?

DIY seems to cause lots of family tensions round here - especially plumbing which usually finishes in having to call an actual plumber to fix DH's DIY disasters.

BD - I'd love a window seat to sit and read Jane Austen on (for some reason). Dressed in an appropriate Jane Austeny dress.

Blackduck Fri 19-Apr-13 13:36:27

Hatty, exactly! Mine will have built in storage and pew ends and...'a place to rest a becon sandwich' (dp and the carpenter!)
Actualy the more I think about it....and yes, Austin, P&P or Persuasion...

grin at upside down poppies. My mother wallpapers far better than my father (or did), despite the fact she's five foot nothing.

herbaceous Fri 19-Apr-13 13:40:11

I have a window seat with built-in storage in the bay window of the bedroom. I do sit on it occasionally, but mainly to spy on the neighbours rather than anything more edifying.

hattymattie Fri 19-Apr-13 13:55:55

herbs - are you peeping round net curtains in naughty old lady fashion,

BD - place for a cake stand not bacon sandwich.

herbaceous Fri 19-Apr-13 14:05:09

I just stare, blatantly. People don't often look up!

rubyrubyruby Fri 19-Apr-13 15:08:49

I want a window seat.
I do all our DIY whilst DH is out grin

Well, after my difficult week I have just been forwarded an email sent to our office praising me blush smile Our ratios are normally 2:12 - this week we required 4:2. So that gives you some indication of exactly how tough it was.

motherinferior Fri 19-Apr-13 15:15:22

Way to go, Ruby!

rubyrubyruby Fri 19-Apr-13 15:24:06

Thanks MI.
I must have one of the only jobs in the world where every week I'm marked out of 10 - twice,

QueenQueenie Fri 19-Apr-13 15:40:10

Well that will keep you on your toes Ruby!
I can't keep up <wails>
Apologies in advance for all I've overlooked...
Stropps, Excellent news re your dh! You must be mightily relieved.
Herbs, I admire your measured resolve re the primary school sit. The whole education thing can feel very emotional (I know this all too well!) but you are being really sensible.
Crem, your poor dh and poor you. That all sounds truly crap. Get your kickass lawyer to kick their sorry asses.
Mrs S, I know nothing about your dds or about what sort of school you are looking for for them.. with that caveat I do know a few people who've sent their dcs to St C's. A couple from dcs primary school went there (this was a few years ago now). It was seen as a choice for those who wouldn't do well in academically selective exams at 11+ for the cutthroat N London schools around us / quite "alternative" / for the more quirky and eccentric dcs who required something quite nurturing. Some parents have loved it, others less so (apparently concerned that the more academically able aren't as well catered for). I think the only way with this schools business is to go and get your own impression and then ask lots of questions. Do you have a copy / online access to the Good Schools Guide? That might help inform you... Don't envy you the task. Best of British and all that.
Phew. Thank God it's the weekend. This week has been very full on compared to the last few weeks of extreme loafing and I'm exhausted. Started to think about what we could have for supper and quickly thought "Fuck it, we'll have a takeaway"! Happy weekends to all.

Cremolafoam Fri 19-Apr-13 15:47:40

Ruby that's wonderful! Very nice to have a bit of recognition for all your effortsmile

I have sanded and painted and dh has moped about a bit with a screwdriver and eaten a chocolate eclair. He is now replacing a kitchen drawer front that was wonky.
I have 3 giant potatoes the size of rugby balls which I am about to bake for tea. Oh yes all the culinary wizardry right here , right now grin

Blackduck Fri 19-Apr-13 15:48:59

Ruby - congrats smile I used to get marked every Friday (IT training) - hated the dreaded evals.

Queenie - you clearly have too much of a life outside Crepeys if you cant keep up ;)

I have just gained another strand to my job, like I don't have enough to do...

Blackduck Fri 19-Apr-13 15:49:57

I am off to the pub.....and will eat a pub dinner and drink beer....

Cremolafoam Fri 19-Apr-13 15:50:42

Oh and I raise you a shed summer house for your window seat . I have one in the garden that doubles as a hideaway and reading nook.
So ner!

herbaceous Fri 19-Apr-13 15:55:29

I'm having curry tonight. With a good pal, chez nous. Mmmmm... So the house needs tidying.

The problem with runners - as per our lovely new stair carpet - is that the white stairs either side don't half show up the grot! I may even have to vacuum.

herbaceous Fri 19-Apr-13 15:57:30

Thanks for your support re education, ladies. I had a massive cry yesterday - convinced I'd blighted him for life by not moving next door to Outstanding school with its TWO CHOIRS - but am now much more sanguine. Though get tearful at the thought of him in his huge uniform, at only just four.

Cremolafoam Fri 19-Apr-13 16:32:49

Aw herbs - they are still babies in year 1 - I was one of those parents steaming up my car with tears on dds first day.( and I wasn't alone)
It'll all be ok. It really willsmile

herbaceous Fri 19-Apr-13 16:39:22

You've set me off again!

I have an S&B question. I have become enamoured with a pair of high top trainers. Admittedly they're Fitflops, but they're quite funky. And a total bargain. What does one wear them with? Other than skinny jeans, which could get boring after a while.

Cremolafoam Fri 19-Apr-13 16:50:26

Sorry herbs wine!!!
Link to shoes of wonder ??

herbaceous Fri 19-Apr-13 16:54:28

Here Kind of sensible Bet Lynch footwear.

bigTillyMint Fri 19-Apr-13 17:03:17

Rubym well done - was this week with little lovelies similar to mine? Ours do bikeability too.... grin

Herbs, he sounds more than ready. DD was only just four when she started, and tiny (still is!) and she never looked back. Literally! I was upset - jealous of the lucky teacher who had her lovely classgrin
And FitFlop trainers? Linkie!

I have been on a fab course foday, run by my fab friend and met some lovely people. Wish I could round off the day with a beer in the pub, but I have to take DD to gym soon and DH has to pick up - not good having a club on a Friday night!

bigTillyMint Fri 19-Apr-13 17:05:31

X post! They are pretty funky - I think I'd wear them with skinnies, like you say. But there are lots of lovely brights and patterned skinnies around (have some on myself), so not that boring!

CointreauVersial Fri 19-Apr-13 17:07:00

Hmm, hightops.....probably only go with skinny jeans or other narrow trousers. But what do I know? I've just shelled out £6 for a pair of ersatz Superga trainers from Primark.

Strops - surprised you are not front-row for McFly.wink

DIY.....well, DH and I know our limitations. Anything involving joinery, electrics, plastering, tiling we tend to GSI (Get Someone In), but we are quite capable of decorating, or putting things up. I'm considerably more practical than DH. But DM is the DIY-whizz in our family; she has done wallpapering and carpet laying for us, and spent last weekend putting down a new bathroom floor for DB (while he went on holiday, the cheeky sod).

We have a long list, totalling several thousand pounds, of things that need doing here, but it is temporarily on hold while we investigate this developer interest in the house. I very much doubt it will come to anything, but would rather not spend the money until we know.

Dust....the worst room for dust in our house is the bathroom, due to DH's talc habit (I'm referring to the Johnson's variety, not anything more sinister). I don't know any other grown men who feel it necessary to fling handfuls of talc around their nethers post-shower, but I curse him every time I dust.

bigTillyMint Fri 19-Apr-13 17:12:18

We don't really have any rows about DIY as DH doesn't do any (2 left hands!) and we generally pay!

We don't get that much dust here, despite it being a Victorian houseconfused

Blackduck Fri 19-Apr-13 17:41:09

CV they weren't the £6 canvas numbers from Primani? I bought a pair to go on hold (first time I have ever set foot in the shop - it's like a large jumble sale isn't it?)

BTM I don't think it is the age of the house so much as locale. Old house was Victorian and no where near as dusty as this one.

Herbs he will be fine - really. Dp took ds to school first day (another first I missed - dp got them all, speaking, walking etc) but I do remember how tiny he was ... Now he's heading for double digits!

Cremolafoam Fri 19-Apr-13 17:43:57

I live in a dust bowl. Open fire, black/ grey cats/ tree pollen / pine needles tramped into house. I'm fighting a losing battle. Ddad starts wheezing in a pantomimic manner within 3 miles of our house. blush

CointreauVersial Fri 19-Apr-13 18:13:29

BD, sounds like the same ones. Yes, it is a dreadful place to shop, although some of the bigger branches are fairly tidy. It drives me mad when you find something you like, but there are only twenty size 16s and a size 8 on the shelf. Having said that, I have bagged some bargains (it's fab for strappy vest tops, PJs, scarves, accessories, and cheapo skinny jeans).

wilbur Fri 19-Apr-13 18:28:57

BTM - I have outlawed clubs on a Fri night, just can't hack it by this point in the week. DCs seem happy to veg anyway. Not that I can go to the pub, mainly because I still need a sitter (how old do kids need to be before you can leave them home alone for a restorative pint?) but partly because our local used to be frequented by the Yorkshire Ripper in his lorry-driving days and tbh it looks like he only just left. envy at BD's country pub.

Herbs, didn't you order some fit flop trainers last year and then decide they were too orthopaedic? Or who was that?

And also Herbs - if you appealed about the school, although it doesn't really sounds like you need to, would they not take ds's vision problems into account and at least move you up the waiting list? Or is that completely irrelevant at this stage and Not How It Works At All? I was wondering about whether he would have extra time in SATS etc, down the line, but then the brain compensation is an amazing thing, so it's likely he will never need it.

herbaceous Fri 19-Apr-13 18:40:46

Re trainers, it was indeed me who ordered the NHS-issue-style fitflop trainers! Remarkable memory, Wilbur. But I'm hoping these are a little more streamlined. I have big problems with my feet - fallen main and metatarsal arches - so am on constant look-out for comfy yet groovy footwear.

Re DS's eye, if I'd wanted to make it a medical issue, I should have done so before application, I think. But it doesn't count as a 'special need', as the location of the school isn't really a factor, and he doesn't need any special treatment. I just have to organise a medical procedure person, should his shell need taking out, or putting in, but I don't think that ranks any differently to a diabetic needing insulin, or an asthmatic needing an inhaler.

Discovered two of his nursery friends are going to school number 2. Will stay on that waiting list, at least until we've seen allocated school...

Stropperella Fri 19-Apr-13 18:51:38

Ha, guess who is standing in the q of teen lovelies? Ah yes, c'est moi. Dh took one look and said "I don't see any 65 year old blokes there". So he's taken ds to the cinema. Am looking forward to a good scream. (er, who the fuck are McFly anyway???) grin

wilbur Fri 19-Apr-13 18:55:50

Herbs, you're right, and that's absolutely the way to approach it, too. Yes, school appeals I know that have been successful have been about distance to the school and very specific facilities for the child in question's needs.

Order the trainers, if only to make you smile after a slightly fraught week. I like the leopard print.

wilbur Fri 19-Apr-13 18:57:11

Stropps grin, I hope you are shaking your circuit-trained booty. You get serious brownie points though! Dh owes you Big Time.

Cremolafoam Fri 19-Apr-13 19:08:32

Ah Stropps been there done thst( busted and mcfly)
When they offer you the ear plugs FGS take them!!!grin

bigTillyMint Fri 19-Apr-13 20:05:23

Stroppsgrin I have only taken DD to concerts I would want to go to. With a friend and her DD! Thought McFly had had their day? But what do I know!

Wilbur, We have been leaving ours home-alone for nearly a year now (when DD turned 13, DS was 11 1/2shock) but only local and we are still coming back by midnight ATMwink

CointreauVersial Fri 19-Apr-13 21:03:32

I will now leave my older two alone (also 13 and 11), but haven't done at night, mainly because DD2 (9) is a bit young. Give it another year, and DS will probably be big enough to frighten any burglar.

MrsSchadenfreude Fri 19-Apr-13 21:33:50

I've left mine from age 13 and 11. Impressed on them the need to lock the door and to bolt it from the inside. And to unbolt it when they went to bed so that we could get in. They forgot the last bit and we had the joy of trying to wake them when we arrived home - ringing the doorbell, house phone and mobiles for about 15 minutes until DD1 woke up and staggered to the door to let us in.

Now having a wobble about DD2 and St Chris...

CointreauVersial Fri 19-Apr-13 21:38:14

Just a question, MrsS. Why, logistically, would you choose to have them at schools so far apart? I know you are looking at boarding, but isn't there one which would suit them both?

MrsSchadenfreude Fri 19-Apr-13 21:47:50

There is a logical reason to this, CV. DD1 really needs to stay in the US/IB system now, as it is too late for her to transition back to the UK system. We're very limited for schools for her that do the MYP or US system (rather than GCSEs) and IB diploma. So this is why we are looking at ACS. The day fees will be paid for her, but not boarding, so we will have to cover this ourselves. Day fees at a US/IB school would also be paid for DD2 but we can't afford to pay two lots of boarding fees, plus there is plenty of time for her to slot back into the UK system. Day fees or boarding would be paid for her at a UK curriculum school, but not for DD1. Does that make sense?

motherinferior Fri 19-Apr-13 21:52:03

Er not to me, but then I have rather rapidly consumed a gin and tonic to anaesthetise the memory of DD2 stepping on a dead mouse in our kitchen.

CointreauVersial Fri 19-Apr-13 22:05:04

Eeeuw, MI. Did it go crunch?

I stood on a slug in bare feet once. It look hours to scrub the slug gloop off my sole.

MrsS, that makes if your relocation weren't complex enough.

MrsSchadenfreude Fri 19-Apr-13 22:12:06

Yes, I am sticking my fingers in my ears and going "lalalalalalaa" at the moment. DH doesn't seem to grasp that we need to give the tenants two clear months notice. I also have to sort out importing the cats.

Have just spoken to my cousin who wants me to do the reading at my Aunt's funeral on Monday if she can't manage it. I think she will be able to - I did for my Dad, and got this strength from nowhere that just sort of carried me through. But I'll be there for her if she needs me to do it. sad And am taking vast amounts of curry with us in the car for us all to eat on Sunday night.

Blackduck Fri 19-Apr-13 22:43:04

Oh thread has shifted on again smile
Don't want to think about dead mice yuck...
Children ran amok in the garden whilst we drank beer and generally had a good time - it is, however, like being in an episode of the archers....
MrsS is that cos work pays some costs or something? Either way tres complicated! Hope all goes well.

Blackduck Fri 19-Apr-13 22:44:02

Stropps smile smile at concert - enjoy smile

Stropperella Fri 19-Apr-13 23:35:53

Gawd, I'm feeling a bit better now my ears have stopped bleeding. grin Apparently, McFly are definitely not over here in the provinces. Lots of dd's friends are going next month when they come to Bournem'th. I wasn't quick to get tickets for that, hence a trip to Roundabout Central. I am now feeling extra crepey.

Stropperella Fri 19-Apr-13 23:37:31

Ps: dd had a great time grin

CointreauVersial Sat 20-Apr-13 00:01:13

G'wan, Strops, admit it, you loved it. wink

addle Sat 20-Apr-13 00:46:13

erm, btm and mi - if you are going to be trolling (as it were) around dulwich trader and p8 tomorrow morning - could I say hello? i'm dropping off on football stuff around there... would help me make digital transition to posting. x (long, v long, time lurker)

addle Sat 20-Apr-13 01:22:05

Can i just say, further to last and it being quite late, that i wouldnt linger, just say hello and depart x (and thenpost lots and lots) x

bigTillyMint Sat 20-Apr-13 07:09:56

addle, it would be lovely to meet you - will PM yousmile

hattymattie Sat 20-Apr-13 07:17:41

Wow - I go out for one evening and you lot go posting mad. DD played in school orchestra - much better than I thought - quite impressive actually. Followed by school jazz band - simply amazing.

Mrs S - how old is your daughter? Are you sure she can't change systems. My DD is always moaning about how 3 or even 4 A levels would make such a nice change and repeatedly mentions how she would ace French smile. Mind you we're on French bac here not IB and it is very gruelling.

I have dust all over my house - I reckon as I'm not that tall I don't spot half of it and when tall people visit they must think the place is a disgrace hmm. Every now and then I panic and rush around with a Feather duster.

bigTillyMint Sat 20-Apr-13 07:19:35

Stropps, gold star for you! DD is off to see Beyonce in May, now ticket saga has been (very favourably) sorted. They are going on their own (as far as we know!) but we will meet DD (plus friends, no doubt) after as we don't fancy her doing the late night travel.

rubyrubyruby Sat 20-Apr-13 07:48:15

Well done Strops grin do you remember when I took DD to see Nicki Minaj? Oh Lordy

DH came home last night with news about work that means we may not be house hunting anymore. Will have to wait and see - but I'm not waiting long!

addle please just jump into the thread anyway. We haven't all met in RL smile

hattymattie Sat 20-Apr-13 08:13:39

I knew you'd end up going Strops grin

Ruby - very mysterious - do

hattymattie Sat 20-Apr-13 08:17:34

I knew you'd end up going Strops grin

Ruby - very mysterious - do

hattymattie Sat 20-Apr-13 08:18:33

Oh God chatted to DD1 and posted twice. Moving away from button now.

Blackduck Sat 20-Apr-13 08:25:22

Oh Ruby spill - we won't tell anyone ;)

rubyrubyruby Sat 20-Apr-13 08:43:29

Nothing much to spill and quite boring really.
Just some changes, which potentially could be good for him, but change brings uncertainty doesn't it? I want him to have the freedom to walk away if he's not happy with what's happening there.

Blackduck Sat 20-Apr-13 08:53:11

Ah I see, so you wouldn't want to commit financially to a move just in case?

rubyrubyruby Sat 20-Apr-13 08:58:25

That's right BD. I'm confident he will be offered the role he deserves tbh BUT if he's not, I'm not sure he will be happy to stay on. Fortunately, atm we are in a position for him to tell them to stuff it grin

QueenQueenie Sat 20-Apr-13 10:15:30

Morning lovelies.
Look! £50 off lots of pairs of previously overpriced shoes at Hobbs. here
Bought these nude loafers which are suprisingly lovely. If summer ever comes they'll be vair useful.

Stropperella Sat 20-Apr-13 11:01:52

Plenty of nude loafers on some of the beaches round here in the summer. grin

QueenQueenie Sat 20-Apr-13 11:12:07

well I am an expert loafer...

Cremolafoam Sat 20-Apr-13 11:12:49

Oh I like those in black for work QQ
< checks bank balance>

CointreauVersial Sat 20-Apr-13 11:57:19

grin at nude loafers.

I'm loafing at the moment (fully dressed, I might add), trying to muster the energy to fit the replacement trampoline net we've just spent £100 (shock shock) on.

I figure it is money well spent if I can persuade my pasty indoor daughters to get off their butts and get some exercise.

Blackduck Sat 20-Apr-13 12:09:28

I too am loafing smile but have done shopping and scrubbed the carpet, trying to summon up the energy to Hoover/clean the house....and cook

rubyrubyruby Sat 20-Apr-13 12:53:12

I'm not loafing. I'm just about to make a 140 mile round trip to another tennis tournament.

At least it's sunny.

bigTillyMint Sat 20-Apr-13 13:46:18

Love the loafers Queenie. But I have just bought a lovely satchel in the Zatchels 5%off sale and I can't really justify another spendsad

But my brogues were admired by a vair fashionable young man this morning (whilst in the teashop catching up with a friend) - apparently they are "monks strap" style!

ruby, you are such a good taxi service mumsmile

Cremolafoam Sat 20-Apr-13 13:47:53

I am in Poundland marvelling!
mostly at the shite people are buying

bigTillyMint Sat 20-Apr-13 13:52:10

Poundland can be great, but often not much better value than the supermarket as the weight, etc may be smaller than full-size IYSWIM!

Cremolafoam Sat 20-Apr-13 14:24:54

Giant teacup planter anyone?
Mealworms ?
Kermit green shaggy cushion?

I have just bought a six pack of twiglets and a Sara smith dishcloth and run away. grin

rubyrubyruby Sat 20-Apr-13 14:50:51

I'm here. Sitting in the sun with a coke.
I can see boats smile

rubyrubyruby Sat 20-Apr-13 14:53:32

...... not a poundland in sight!

bigTillyMint Sat 20-Apr-13 14:54:32

ruby, it sounds lovely! Are you on the coast or at a lake/river?

rubyrubyruby Sat 20-Apr-13 15:05:54

Good question! It looks like a river but I'm very near the coast.
Correct answer is probably 'estuary' smile

bigTillyMint Sat 20-Apr-13 15:10:17


Cremolafoam Sat 20-Apr-13 15:22:30

Wow it's 50% off at zatchels!!grin not 5%


bigTillyMint Sat 20-Apr-13 15:34:11

Ooops, yes 50% off! Don't do it Cremogrin

hattymattie Sat 20-Apr-13 15:40:22

Cointreau - I find the trampolene very useful for lying in the sun reading books.

I'd love loafers but I have big calves, skinny ankles and flappy feet so they look ridiculous on me. On DD1 needless to say they look fantastic

Ruby - your setting sounds idyllic.

CointreauVersial Sat 20-Apr-13 16:55:57

Am eating a custard tart and listening to the sound of everyone else's lawnmowers.

CointreauVersial Sat 20-Apr-13 17:00:03

I did browse the Zatchels website, but I'm not sure I want a satchel really - too heavy, stiff and awkward to open if used as a handbag, although I can see their merits as a briefcase (or indeed a satchel).

I can no longer hear the lawnmowers, as DH is now snoring beside me in his new steamer chair. Oh, the glamorous life I lead.

rubyrubyruby Sat 20-Apr-13 17:08:57

Still here. Having a cup of tea and a piece of carrot cake.

Blackduck Sat 20-Apr-13 17:21:11

Sun is out, view is great, need to cook tea ;)

Blackduck Sat 20-Apr-13 17:22:19

I looked at Zatchels too, but convinced myself not to...I really don't need another bag (want is a whole different thing!)

hattymattie Sat 20-Apr-13 17:38:13

Waah - stop eating cake everybody. I'm as bad - just had rosé and crisps. I was actually contemplating a bikini in spain this year but I think there is no hope; hmm

Does anybody know what you would write on an application for a taster couse - it's really weird - I mean it's a taster course to see if you want to study the subject so are you supposed to write - I'd like to apply for a taster couse because I might like to study this subject at your fabulous university. It's sort of trying to sound motivated without going over the top.

bigTillyMint Sat 20-Apr-13 17:38:45

CV is that a Spanish stylie or Greggs old-skool custard tart?grin

I didn't really need another bag, but have been coveting a friends satchel for a while....

Cooking DC's tea, looking froward to a beer soon!

Cremolafoam Sat 20-Apr-13 17:41:27

I too have refrained from the lure of the scent of pretty coloured leather. Although sorely tempted I cannot justify it given the number of bags I already own.I already have a vintage Tessier satchel and a Boden one....
Move away from the screen Cremolagrin.......

Cremolafoam Sat 20-Apr-13 17:44:38

Tessier I mean Texier

Blackduck Sat 20-Apr-13 18:53:25

Margarita yummmmmmmmm combined with a fabby chilli (even if I do say so myself smile
A glass of petit Chablis beckons and some trashy TV....

CointreauVersial Sat 20-Apr-13 18:57:44

Twas a retro Greggs-style custard tart although I'm not choosy.

Still two left in the box.

bigTillyMint Sat 20-Apr-13 18:59:54

Mmmmm margarita. Or maybe a G&T. Or a fruit beer.... Off out soon - better get changed!

bigTillyMint Sat 20-Apr-13 19:00:40

Hope you didn't buy any sausage rolls as well, CV!

MrsSchadenfreude Sat 20-Apr-13 19:04:49

Yes, and she washed the whole lot down with a Fruit Shoot and is now eyeing up the WKD as the sun's over the yard arm.

Blackduck Sat 20-Apr-13 20:18:10

I hope that's the blue WKD smile

MrsSchadenfreude Sat 20-Apr-13 22:16:20

I have had phantom gallbladder pain all day and it won't go away. I have to hold my side when I cough otherwise the pain is really bad. All the doctors just say "Oh yes, this happens sometimes," but no-one seems prepared to investigate and I am getting fed up with it. I had it yesterday too. And I've just had a wee that was very dark, and wondering if they are related? <deliberately not googling, in case it comes up with liver/kidney failure or something like that.>

bigTillyMint Sat 20-Apr-13 22:42:07

MrsS, what makes you say it is phantom? It sounds like you need to see a different doctor. Surprising, given that you are in France, that none of the specialists have come up with an explanation.

bigTillyMint Sat 20-Apr-13 22:45:12

Are they sure it's not gallstones? (my DM has this)

CointreauVersial Sat 20-Apr-13 23:24:52

MrsS, my DSis had gallstones last year, and now has a little glass vial of them in her handbag to scare people. It was quite painful, and 40+ females are the most likely to get them, so get yourself checked out.

And no blue WKD here, oh no. I've been quaffing chilled Hoegaarden.

busymummy3 Sat 20-Apr-13 23:29:53

Please someone tell me what this thread is all about ? I am fascinated but mind boggled !!

bigTillyMint Sun 21-Apr-13 07:41:43

busymummy, you are obviously too young to know what crepey skin is!smile

Blackduck Sun 21-Apr-13 08:11:04

You're up early BTM! You off on your dress shopping trip with MI today?

herbaceous Sun 21-Apr-13 08:36:10

Diet fail. Despite only missing a couple of fast days over the past couple of months, my weight has seemingly gone down by about a pound, after bouncing back up from a half-stone loss. Not aided by Easter, obv.

And not aided by this weekend: curry and a bottle of wine to myself Friday night; burger and chips for lunch yesterday, and fish and chips and chocolate and beer for dinner last night at the choir quiz night. Which we won! For the second year running! I rule!

Then today I'm running the cake stall at a table top sale. While I'm out, DP is making gingerbread men with DS.

<orders whale stretcher to get her out of house>

Ordered those trainers. They will be very useful for the yomp to DS's new school!

Blackduck Sun 21-Apr-13 09:05:43

Herbs me too on the diet front - completely went to pot the last couple of weeks. I am started with renewed vigour on Monday! Have fun on the cake stall.

bigTillyMint Sun 21-Apr-13 09:22:36

Yes BD, been to the gym (polishes halo!), going to shower and then bike to our shopping jauntsmile
It's lovely and sunny - perfect for being out and about - DS and DH are at a EUAFA? tournament, at which the winners get free tickets to the Wembly final. I predict some moaning later today!
DD is off to watch her bf play a rugby match (his DM is picking her up?!!) and then meeting up with all her girlfriends to try out the new gelateriaenvy

bigTillyMint Sun 21-Apr-13 09:23:33

Herbs, gingerbread men sound fab. DH can't boil a bloody egg!

busymummy3 Sun 21-Apr-13 09:59:41

BTM - Wish I was too young but don't seem to be doing too badly with my skin for my age- as for the rest of me ..... sad
Thank you for letting me know I just couldn't work it out thread title is brilliant !!!!

Stropperella Sun 21-Apr-13 10:05:49

AFAIR, MrsS is already sans gall bladder, hence the "phantom" nature of the pain. I hope you will go and rage at the doc until you get a proper answer, MrsS. Fingers crossed for your trip back to the UK today.

Dd is lying in bed saying she is "too sad" about her treat being over. She has always done this after something she has been looking forward to for ages has been and gone. Dh claims this is "weird".

Ds is off to a St Georges' Day parade with the cubs and scouts and I think this means that I get a chance to dig the garden. Whoopdidoo. grin That's after yet another roofer has been to give us a quote for replacing the flashing round the chimney. Actually, I am so damn happy to see the sun, I could be spending the entire day shovelling poo and I would still be grinning.

motherinferior Sun 21-Apr-13 10:31:58

I am off to shop grin

Blackduck Sun 21-Apr-13 10:49:28

Hope it is productive MI!

My garden is minuscule, but I still can't be arsed to get out there and do it....
I have a very busy week ahead and am currently ignoring all the work I should be doing.

Would I be unreasonable for killing dp for leaving the utility loo door open?

Blackduck Sun 21-Apr-13 10:49:51

MrsS safe travelling

rubyrubyruby Sun 21-Apr-13 10:52:24

envy at shopping trip.
I'm clearing rooms in preparation for this weeks painting project. Hope this weather keeps up as I think the dog is going to be shut pit on the gatden and walked a lot this week. Anti-piss medicine is working like a dream smile and I have a happy dog. I'm washing everything in sight to celebrate my new washing machine.

rubyrubyruby Sun 21-Apr-13 10:53:06

Shut pit = shut out

Cremolafoam Sun 21-Apr-13 11:49:17

Have prepared a massive veggie picnic for dsis as it is her birthday and we are off to eat same and 'look at a view '

CointreauVersial Sun 21-Apr-13 16:13:41

Aah, I somehow missed the fact that MesS is already deficient in the gallbladder department. Won't be gallstones, then.

Once again, I find myself eating a custard tart while DH slumbers beside me. hmm I have had a lovely lazy weekend, and I don't care.

DH has been grumbling all day because he is aching all over after taking part in the annual Lads v Dads match with DS and his U13 mates. At least he came off better than their coach who, at his first touch of the ball, was felled by the Left Back and broke his fibula in two places.shock He was due to fly out to China on business tomorrow, and is now waiting to hear if it needs to be pinned.

bigTillyMint Sun 21-Apr-13 16:59:24

Yes, me too, CV (re gallstones!)blush

And CV, that is exactly why DH's should NOT attempt to play footy any more <glares at DH who dislocated his knee 2 weeks before the first time we took the DC skiing and has had other footy related injuries since>

bigTillyMint Sun 21-Apr-13 17:02:01

Shopping trip was very nice - met the lovely addle (who I hope will now join us on here more regularly!) and once she found us MI and tried on a few dresses. Might buy the one I liked best before the 25% off expires!

Blackduck Sun 21-Apr-13 17:05:56

Did MI get anything?
We have had a very lazy day here - ds is still in his pjs shock
I am still avoiding the work I should have done, but have cooked dinner...

CointreauVersial Sun 21-Apr-13 18:00:59

YY, BTM, unfit men in their late 40s really should know better than to attempt to play football. Especially as a fair number of the U13s are now lunking great youths and not quite so easy to shove over.

Glad you enjoyed your shopping trip, and hope MI is suitably kitted out in the party frock of her dreams.

bigTillyMint Sun 21-Apr-13 18:06:25

She didn't buy, but has now identified a style that will suit her and possible colourssmile

We have a big reunion BBQ every summer and there's always a dads-v-lads match. I think the lads may well win this yeargrin

hattymattie Sun 21-Apr-13 18:13:28

Shopping trip sounds fun.

I've come to the conclusion I drink even more alcohol when it's warm outside as have spend the day mainly lazing around in the garden, reading newspaper and drinking rosé - again!

Off to gym with a vengence tomorrow and no wine for a week now! (haha).

Blackduck Mon 22-Apr-13 05:49:31

Hope all goes well today MrsS

bigTillyMint Mon 22-Apr-13 06:46:21

Yes, hope it goes well today too, MrsS

rubyrubyruby Mon 22-Apr-13 07:03:06

Yes MrsS - thinking of you today x

rubyrubyruby Mon 22-Apr-13 09:26:18

I'm just waiting to have a post reported and deleted in another thread grin <<rebel>>

hattymattie Mon 22-Apr-13 09:41:02

Ruby - what have you been up to?hmm

Best wishes for today Mrs S.

I have been to gym and have come back to coffee and gingernuts. Gym makes me hungry.

wilbur Mon 22-Apr-13 10:30:50

Thinking of you, MrsS. Hope you get a chance to properly mourn your aunt and not just keep your mum in check.

Glad shopping trip was fun, BTM and MI. Addle - where do you live (approx) if you are close to a W. Dulwich shopping spree?

BIL's lunch yesterday was lovely - v delicious food (pimms sorbet, yum) and family all on good form - hilarious old picks of dh and his brothers all with hair (only 2 of them have much left) which the children didn't recognise. Birthday BIL's partner raises horses and said they'd had an awful winter with the horses being stuck inside because of weather, but now the foals are out playing again. Ahhh. He also said their neighbour, who breeds shire horses, has two new foals at the moment which are the most gorgeous things. We're going to try and get up to see them later in the summer and no doubt dd will explode with horsey joy.

rubyrubyruby Mon 22-Apr-13 10:35:22

That's sounds like a lovely weekend Wilbur smile
Meant to ask you - what did you think to your HD brow?

Hattie - I've been mud slinging breaking talk guidelines

wilbur Mon 22-Apr-13 10:44:58

Very much like HD brow although quite severe at first (but that was more to do with the fact that brows had degenerated into a blond forest so the contrast is more stark). A week on they look perfect and groomed but not too thin. Hoping I can keep them up for a couple of months at least as I can only afford the professional job every 3 months or so.

Who have you been slinging mud at? I'm sure they deserved it. grin

rubyrubyruby Mon 22-Apr-13 10:51:01

Good - I love mine. Bit dark for a few days but then they do last longer.
I keep on top of plucking and dye myself in between and they last a few months.

Mud slinging at a numpty - could be a troll actually.

bigTillyMint Mon 22-Apr-13 13:11:06

Just googling HD brows - is it a special waxing/plucking and dyeing? I feel very strange when those make-up women use eyeshadow to darken my brows, but maybe I should get more used to it!

rubyrubyruby Mon 22-Apr-13 13:37:36

She dyes, waxes, plucks and threads mine. The whole shebang!

bigTillyMint Mon 22-Apr-13 13:39:03

And how long does it last?

And while we are on the subject, does anyone have thier eyelashes dyed? I think I had it done one summer, but so long ago, i can barely remember!

motherinferior Mon 22-Apr-13 13:39:50

I might get mine done <jumps on bandwagon>

Just texted MrsS saying we're all thinking of her.

I have just realised where tomorrow's interview at Lords is - ie not at the house of lords, and not at the Oval. Good thing I'm not interviewing him about cricket, innit <durr-urrr>

bigTillyMint Mon 22-Apr-13 13:51:37

Ha Ha MI. Why am I not surprised at your confusion?grin

motherinferior Mon 22-Apr-13 14:08:15

ONE day I am going to do something competent, BTM, one day, just you wait, and then you'll be sorry.


beachyhead Mon 22-Apr-13 14:21:46

Thanks for reminding me of my very fair and straggly eyebrows... Just come back from Blink, sporting a pair of Dennis Healy's grinthey are very dark! Medium brown, my arse!

I did have my eyelashes dyed in my yoof, but after a couple of occasions when the due got in my eye, reverted to mascara...

I can recommend the Benefit Browzings, a sort of wax, which looks very natural... Certainly won't be needing mine for a while...

beachyhead Mon 22-Apr-13 14:22:19

Dye in my eye, dye!!

Stropperella Mon 22-Apr-13 14:23:08

I have my lashes and brows dyed and have done for years and years. I sometimes do it myself when I have a quiet half hour and can be arsed, but otherwise it is the only treatment I regularly have done. I'm naturally v. fair and I now also have a very obvious WHITE hair in one of my eyebrows. Outrageous. Also, mascara has never ever worked for me because of little piggy deep-set eyes. It always creeps about all over my face. Not a good look. I go for dark brown dye rather than black and a slightly lighter mouse for the eyebrows - which are otherwise blonde. And white. Grrr.

bigTillyMint Mon 22-Apr-13 14:47:49

Stropps, how long does the dyeing last? Mascara is fine usually, but it would be so much easier on holiday when I'm in and out of the pool.

Would HD be worth it on my brows - they would still have to be really light brown...

Stropperella Mon 22-Apr-13 15:08:38

I find it lasts a good month to 6 weeks if done professionally, more like 3-4 weeks if I do it myself (mainly because they leave the dye on longer in the salon).

I have had some hilarious Scouse brow/ caterpillar jobs, but try to keep it a bit more natural these days.

QueenQueenie Mon 22-Apr-13 15:22:13

35% off all these dresses today... enter DRESSES35 at checkout... I may have bought something....
MI what about this for your celebrations??

QueenQueenie Mon 22-Apr-13 15:22:44

35% off all these dresses today... enter DRESSES35 at checkout... I may have bought something....
MI what about this for your celebrations??

QueenQueenie Mon 22-Apr-13 15:23:19

oops. <over enthusiastic>

bigTillyMint Mon 22-Apr-13 15:29:55

Which one might you have bought QQ?

motherinferior Mon 22-Apr-13 15:34:29

Oooh, I shall Peruse! Am also going to try that fab red one on at the weekend.

QueenQueenie Mon 22-Apr-13 15:39:31

I might have bought this... not hugely exciting but hopefully rather useful. I like plain basic things that you can dress up or down. Sorry, realise I am sounding like a bad style feature in Women's Own (is that still around??).

QueenQueenie Mon 22-Apr-13 15:40:16

would help if i posted link...
plain but nice

bigTillyMint Mon 22-Apr-13 15:41:51

Oooh, I like that!

motherinferior Mon 22-Apr-13 15:41:55

Ooh yes. I always worry - with considerable basis in reality - that I would look as if I were wearing my mum's dress if I wore a maxi. Well, not my mum, obviously, as she is slender and Indian whereas I am a great big white heifer, but you know what I mean.

bigTillyMint Mon 22-Apr-13 15:43:45

Bet it will look fab with your lovely jewellry!

motherinferior Mon 22-Apr-13 15:47:41

Yes, it will envy

addle Mon 22-Apr-13 15:53:15

lovely dresses! thank you to btm and mi for a v enjoyable intro to crepeys. there were actually some great dresses in hh oxfam the same day but i imagine for a special occasion you might give charity shops a miss? wilbur - i'm over brixton way.x

motherinferior Mon 22-Apr-13 16:00:34

Oh no, I bloody love charity shops! Which Oxfam???? What sort of dresses? Spill!

beachyhead Mon 22-Apr-13 16:14:02

Like that Blake dress, Q....

Do you think I could do that for the James Bond night?

I agree that second hand shops may be the way to go... I have heard that there is a vair vair good one in a small market town in Surrey, where the ladies of the area do not like to be seen in the same evening attire twice.. Less a charity shop, more posh and pre loved, but I am contemplating a visitgrin

Me and my eyebrows are going to parents evening tonight - suitably intimidating, I think!

QueenQueenie Mon 22-Apr-13 16:18:58

I think you really could Beachy if you added, say, ridiculous quantities of (cheap, Topshop stylee) gold necklaces and bracelets... and then you'd have a perfectly sensible dress to wear afterwards...

wilbur Mon 22-Apr-13 17:07:39

I did notice quite a good looking "dress agency" in Crystal Palace on a brief jaunt last weekend, I love a 2nd hand rummage. Bought a very nice Zara paisley tunic from charity shop in same outing.

Like the long dress and I have a few things from Baukjen (which used to be Isabella Oliver - bad namechange IMO) and they are nicely made.

Addle - we're south Streatham/Norwood way, up the hill from you. Used to live in Brixton, moons and moons ago. Loved it.

rubyrubyruby Mon 22-Apr-13 17:31:01

Just skipping past all the dress talk to say:

MI - you a not a big white heifer!

rubyrubyruby Mon 22-Apr-13 17:33:50

...... well actually you are quite white grin

addle Mon 22-Apr-13 17:40:19

- herne hill oxfam - always worth keeping an eye on - but i think shut for refurbishment for a while now ... wilbur - sounds like you are really close! se/sw london clearly v crepey

bigTillyMint Mon 22-Apr-13 17:55:46

Agreed, rubygrin

QQ, I do love that dress. Am willing myself not to buy it, but it would be so useful.....

motherinferior Mon 22-Apr-13 18:03:33

SE London is crepissimi central.

I have printed out my map of where I am supposed to go tomorrow. Although will leave lots of room for, er, error blush

bigTillyMint Mon 22-Apr-13 18:22:23

Good thinking MI!grin

bigTillyMint Mon 22-Apr-13 19:02:14

Am thinking Blake dress is less mumsy than the Phase Eight one but also less forgiving on the belly and hips.

Thoughts, anyone?!

QueenQueenie Mon 22-Apr-13 19:11:17

I think <deluded> the Blake will be fine... maybe with some cast iron undergarments...

rubyrubyruby Mon 22-Apr-13 19:13:53

Do I need a new dress?

Blackduck Mon 22-Apr-13 19:26:28

Love the Blake dress but suspect, like MI I am too short...BTM - also nice, but don't do floral. I do not need a new dress until I lose some poundage ;)
MI do I take it you got, erm lost on Sunday smile

bigTillyMint Mon 22-Apr-13 19:30:28

Only for a little while, and she was very near....

motherinferior Mon 22-Apr-13 19:30:36

Round and round and round I went in ever decreasing circles of lostitudegrin

bigTillyMint Mon 22-Apr-13 19:31:20

I, conversely, BD wonder if I may be too tall, especially in heels. Hmmm.

addle Mon 22-Apr-13 20:14:14

Polite parades of shops in various bits of Dulwich pretty much identical imo.

bigTillyMint Mon 22-Apr-13 20:16:26

Mmmmm, you could be right addlesmile


QQ, I have ordered it! I can always send it back.....

QueenQueenie Mon 22-Apr-13 20:22:04

My thinking exactly BTM wink
Hi Addle and welcome. I am a rare breed of N London crepester...

Blackduck Mon 22-Apr-13 20:24:01

I clearly must have failed to tick the 'do not pass my address on to the universe' as I am currently inundated with catalogues for companies I have never heard of - poetry fashion anyone?

QQ - yes Woman's Own still exists....

Blackduck Mon 22-Apr-13 20:34:16

Rapidly adds, I only know this cos my mum has it delivered!

rubyrubyruby Mon 22-Apr-13 20:34:17

I always get lost when I'm meeting bTM too!

Blackduck Mon 22-Apr-13 20:41:13

Oh, sorry, hi Addle, I was a N Londoner back in day (folks still there), but now live in the sticks up a hill...

bigTillyMint Mon 22-Apr-13 21:28:23

So you're blaming it on me? Huhhgrin

rubyrubyruby Mon 22-Apr-13 21:35:25


herbaceous Mon 22-Apr-13 22:42:57

<stretches hand up> I'm north London too. Well, north east.

Stop showing me pictures of nice dresses I don't need. What I do need is a decent pair of shoes before Thursday - it's DP's masters graduation, and while I do have a couple of frocks in the running (one, natch, from Sainsbury's) all my shoes are awful.

QueenQueenie Mon 22-Apr-13 22:56:52

Wotcha Herbs. What sort of shoes does Madam require?

Cremolafoam Mon 22-Apr-13 22:57:04

Hi Addle , not unlike BD I live in the sticks at the top of a hillgrin
And am neither a Parisian or a Londoner , although I did live in east dulwich, gypsy hill , crystal palace and clapham as a student in the very distant pastgrin I am we'll crepey.

Cremolafoam Mon 22-Apr-13 23:00:05

Aargh I need shoes I need shoes!
And a top that incorporates orange cream and navy. It must be lovely and go with a navy broderie anglaise skirt I've just bought on the slyblush

Blackduck Tue 23-Apr-13 06:18:12

Am liking new dragon so much more effective than angry can we keep??

Shoes, I need shoes, spring is here and it's time to get out of the boots, but not warm enough for sandals...

hattymattie Tue 23-Apr-13 06:52:01

I'm thinking dragon's more bossy angry than just random angry, so we need the two. smile

I'm off shoe shopping today - I need flats with decent soles that can walk more than 10 m without needing reheeling. That look nice and that don't get too hot. I think it's going to be a long hard search.

I was pondering downgrading face-cream to L'oreal age regenerative thingy. It says from age 50 onwards and I'm 49 so maybe. Not sure if it's too heavy for crepey skin though.

bigTillyMint Tue 23-Apr-13 07:38:35

I don't really seem to wear shoes much - l have loads of boots and a variety of sandals and a couple of pairs of flats for work, but I feel more comfortable in converse/skater-trainers than any of the pairs of heels I ownhmm

Love the dragon

bigTillyMint Tue 23-Apr-13 07:39:22

hatty, give it a try and report back!

hattymattie Tue 23-Apr-13 07:50:54

BTM - that's my problem - I like boots and sandals and nothing in between. except fabulous things that I could never walk in I need converse/trainers but elegant - this is an oxymoron I think. (MI will tell me so)

bigTillyMint Tue 23-Apr-13 08:09:20

Yes, Yes! Please let me know if you find anything!

DS has gone off without his packed lunch - he is in that awful teen-forgetful period. Have just topped up his fob, but he will now spend it all on drinks and mega-cookies!

rubyrubyruby Tue 23-Apr-13 08:20:04

Me too - boots, sandals, shoes with high heels and nothing inbetween.

Blackduck Tue 23-Apr-13 08:34:24

Hatty we are relying on you! Come back with something nice, reasonable price which we can get in the UK! (tall order)

MrsS - you okay?

herbaceous Tue 23-Apr-13 08:35:33

Hmm. Me too. Said shoes need to go with either a blue, black and white frock, or a grey-and-white mottled frock. They must be instantly comfortable. Heel no more than 10cm. Preferably padded bit under ball of foot, to help me poor metatarsal arch.

It is, according to the forecast, going to be 21deg, so maybe I can crack out the sandals. Though this means extensive deforestation of the legs, perhaps some fake tan, and some drastic toenail attention.

However, as DP said, 'it's not about me'.

rubyrubyruby Tue 23-Apr-13 08:42:25

grin @ 'it's not about me' Herbs.

I assume DP is stressing about his feet?
.......... No - I thought not.

I have a funeral to go to tomorrow. I have no idea what to wear, my wardrobe is currently encased in plastic (painter) and I think DH has put all my footwear in the garage hmm

Cremolafoam Tue 23-Apr-13 08:45:52

Lol hattie.
Please find miracle shoes!grin
I too have boots or sandals. Nothing else whatsoever. I have a feeling I may end up in "Hotter" before the spring is over . Not a fan of clunky though wink

bigTillyMint Tue 23-Apr-13 08:51:34

There definitely seems to be a gap in the market for crepey shoes!

Herbs, a 4" heel? Go Girl!

And re deforestation, why is it my leg hairs grow so much more prolifically in the summer?

Stropperella Tue 23-Apr-13 08:52:51

Lucky are those who can get their feet into sandals. I have strange cuboid feet that are <gasp> too wide and high for Converse and DMs (used to be able to get into DMs but since having the kiddiwinks my feet have got even wider and somehow higher and now I can't). And I have useless wibbly ankles and a naff back (crepey-tastic, I am), so heels are just out, as are totally flat shoes. I live in boots and these . This is yet another reason why skirts, dresses and I do not get on - except occasionally in the depths of winter when I can wear a boots with a skirt. I find shoe shopping an utterly dispiriting experience as I can only go where they sell fat old lady shoes. Sadly, both dcs have feet just like mine.

Stropperella Tue 23-Apr-13 08:56:49

Oh, I did find those nice Clarks brogues fitted me in a wiiiiiide fitting. grin

herbaceous Tue 23-Apr-13 08:59:10

Did I say 4" heel? I meant 1.5", at the most. And that's if walking is kept to a minimum.

I do have some ballet flats, but they're hard to keep on the feet, and make my cankles look positively Redwood-ian.

Stropperella Tue 23-Apr-13 09:02:46

<adds cankles to her own list of foot woes>

bigTillyMint Tue 23-Apr-13 09:16:26

Actually, my Office? brogues are very comfortable, but not really suitable for skirts/dresses.

motherinferior Tue 23-Apr-13 09:40:19

Oh, I love a brogue. I am going to lash out on a new pair of Clarks ones. I currently have a rather knackered pewter/silver pair of Office ones, and today am wearing clunky black lace-ups originally from Next, along with my black wrapover frock I got in the charity shop.

Eees hot. I have downgraded to a sleeveless vest (essential under what a kindly friend told me at school gate is a Boob Frock). I like to think I am sporting a kind of arty-lefty look on account of black dress and amber jewellery (Inferiorettes told me, rather disapprovingly, I looked like a Rebel Mourner) but suspect I am rather too much working the menopausal-sweaty-laydee look.

Blackduck Tue 23-Apr-13 10:01:19

Stropps I luuuvy them there shoes...A friend has them and I have been meaning to ask where they came from!

But, yes, not really dress wearing shoes...

hattymattie Tue 23-Apr-13 13:26:24

No shoes sad.

I have done the basement of Galaries Lafayette - which Mrs S will confirm has a lot of shoes.

I'm going to end up in canvas lace ups as usual - sort of low converse things - in black (stylish me).

Mrs S - hope all went OK yesterday - you need to check in.

Cremolafoam Tue 23-Apr-13 13:46:50

Oh hattie shame.
Everything in shops here vile. I do not like an Espadrille Wedge.hmm
I envy my mother who spent the 50s and 60's in winkle pickets with 6" heels and no longer feels any pain or discomfort in any teetering heel . I envy her slim ankles.
I ruined my ability to wear anything with more than a kitten heel due to living in dms for years. My feet have spread and are in agony after 3 minutes in anything but flats.grin

Cremolafoam Tue 23-Apr-13 13:54:08

I q like these

bigTillyMint Tue 23-Apr-13 14:55:06

I ordered the Blake dress, but it is apparently not in stock and on wait time till June 18th FFS angry

bigTillyMint Tue 23-Apr-13 14:57:55

I like them too - I have a pair of platform sandals with a similar sole.

wilbur Tue 23-Apr-13 15:35:02

Am assuaging my urge to shop at the moment by buying bits and pieces for lithe young dd's 10th birthday smile. Can't believe she's 10. Looking forward to her b'day though - she has some great friends. I am feeling encouraged by the weather today - it feels like this time Spring might be the real thing.

Sorry that shoe hunts are proving fruitless -- I do like the comfy range at Next (am wearing black patent not quite ballet pumps today and they are v v easy to walk in). Worth having a look. I realise that won't help Hatty, though.

wilbur Tue 23-Apr-13 16:17:35

Link to comfy Next range. I quite like corsage flats if you need to wear with a dress.

motherinferior Tue 23-Apr-13 16:28:50

Ooh yes. I like the silver ones.

I assuaged shopping urge in local Sally Army shoppe, followed by eyebrow threading. Must now type up notes from possibly not overly forthcoming interviewee.

rubyrubyruby Tue 23-Apr-13 17:56:26

I'm in the front garden with a G&T wearing muddy jeans and DDs t-shirt.
Supposed to bd going to the pub this evening but I just know that DH don't want to. <<sigh>>

rubyrubyruby Tue 23-Apr-13 17:57:15

won't want to.