Urgent help needed - I've aged!

(158 Posts)
chocolateshoes Thu 11-Apr-13 15:39:00

I really don't know what has happened but all of a sudden my face has aged. I've got lines everywhere, crazy eyebrows and a bit of a tache. My skin looks red and dry. Have just rung local beauticians for eyebrow wax but there's no answer - so hopeful I'll get booked in soon. What else can I do? Can anyone recommend a good moisturiser that won't break the bank? Any other tips? Have got to stop the rot!!!

coreny Thu 11-Apr-13 15:40:29

are you drinking enough water?
exercise is good to get your circulation going - try going for a long walk
are you eating a lot of sugar?

Marking place for tips. Me too. sad. Since becoming a parent, coming up to five years ago, I have aged overnight! I always look tired and though I get told by friends that my skin is clear/good, it doesn't look that way to me.

I drink lots of water, always have. Don't have any sugary drinks or eat biscuits. I have a bit of chocolate every week though. I cook fresh meals every day and I walk a lot. I think it's all the sleep I've missed since having DCs!

chocolateshoes Thu 11-Apr-13 15:46:22

Coreeny - loads of exercise and fresh air yes, but a very good point about water - I probably don't drink enough and also, thinking about it, I've been drinking a lot more wine and eating a lot more sugar as its the holidays. That could be what has made such a dramatic change. Thanks.

I think I probably need to start wearing foundation.

frutilla Thu 11-Apr-13 15:47:15

Botox really works if you can afford it and aren't pregnant or b/feeding. Olay 7-signs moisturiser is good. On ebay they sell collagen face masks and eye masks, They aren't expensive and really work.

chocolateshoes Thu 11-Apr-13 15:50:05

ohhh hadn't thought about a face mask - good tip Frutilla.

LAB - I think you're right about sleep although that isn't the case with me. I generally sleep pretty well. Like you I eat loads of fresh veg but I do wonder if its the increase in alcohol these last 10 days that has sent my skin over the edge.

pod3030 Thu 11-Apr-13 15:51:54

me too! i try to keep bottles of water by my bed/computer/sofa so i remember to hydrate.
i use sweet almond oil as a moisturiser along with whatever is on offer (nivea at mo) as i have parched skin. i use rimmel's 'wake me up' instant radiance shimmer on my face in rose . my hands are horrible, dry and yellow like they're mummified, almond oil won't touch them.

i found doing an at home peel can give a bloom to the skin ,it's finding the time or inclination. i think you have to put in more work and often i can't be arsed.

body brushing/those glove exfoliators are good for circulation.
umm,will try to think of more ...

chocolateshoes Thu 11-Apr-13 15:59:46

thanks Pod! Think I really need to invest (with money and time) in my face! Where do you get your almond oil from? Where can I get a home peel from?

Yes, I want to try masks/peels!

coreny Thu 11-Apr-13 16:08:20

alcohol will make you look tired the next day

decleor so a really nice oil called iris oil which is great under moisturiser

I use beauty flash balm under laura mercier tinted moisturiser which helps me look less zombie like

pod3030 Thu 11-Apr-13 16:09:59

almond oil from health food shops or little independent chemists. Peel - i think i got bravura as recommended by a mumsnetter a while back.

www.bravuralondon.com/glycolic?gclid=CKSc7b3ywrYCFTHMtAoduB8APw

pod3030 Thu 11-Apr-13 16:10:37

if anyone can help me with my mummified hands !

coreny Thu 11-Apr-13 16:12:10

sudocrem is meant to be good as a face mask

I've read about an asprin facemask on here but haven't tried it

I bought some evening primrose oil capsules from aldi for about a quid and I've been putting that on my skin as a serum. A beauty journalist recommended it.

chocolateshoes Thu 11-Apr-13 16:29:43

sudocrem?????!!!!!

am filling up a little shopping basket on Spacenk right now!

coreny Thu 11-Apr-13 16:31:36

well I haven't actually tried the sudocrem face mask but I read it on here so it must be true!

LadyMountbatten Thu 11-Apr-13 16:32:54

Wine. It's a KILLER. Makes you puffy and bloated. I can always spot a wind face.

Would you have Botox ?

I only drink two glasses of wine a weekend and I don't smoke. Quite boring really, but that's why it's frustrating looking tired!

Intrigued by the sudocrem mask!

Khaleese Thu 11-Apr-13 16:34:58

Have you passed 35? Everyone i know died a death at 35 :-(

LadyMountbatten Thu 11-Apr-13 16:36:02

Wine face

Yes. sad. I am almost two years shy of 40.

noddyholder Thu 11-Apr-13 16:38:10

Lots of water no alcohol neals yard facial oil and L'oreal age perfect cell renew in the gold tub. All my friends are post 35 and they all look great smile (apart from the drinkers they look rough!)

chocolateshoes Thu 11-Apr-13 16:38:21

not keen on Botox. Have just bought some REN face peel stuff and moisturiser & night cream thing. This is the new me!!! Yes Khaleese - I'm 43 (sob!). Now need to investigate light foundations but guess I actually need to go to a shop for that to test some shades.

I'd love to hear from someone who really has done the Sudocrem face mask!!!!!!!

pod3030 Thu 11-Apr-13 16:41:31

oh and the central heating has really had an effect on me, think you're meant to put a damp cloth on radiators or something.

LadyMountbatten Thu 11-Apr-13 16:42:16

You can buy all the creams you like , wont make any difference.

Central heating is a killer and lack of vitamin d. It's been a long winter and it shows!

noddyholder Thu 11-Apr-13 16:45:51

Creams do work They can't resurface or de wrinkle but they can plump and give a glow which is lost on dry dehydrated skin. Botox is good for dynamic lines I have had it several times and am due again. But you grow used to your face with it and when it wears off you are bereft! Have seen real transformations with high % urea creams too.

chocolateshoes Thu 11-Apr-13 16:54:37

ok, central heating can go off now.

noddyholder Thu 11-Apr-13 17:01:51

Yes central heating is a killer! Anything really that removes moisture like alcohol or dry heat.

chocolateshoes Thu 11-Apr-13 17:38:13

eyebrow wax booked for tomorrow. Now need to look into sorting out my tache.

thelongandwindingroad Thu 11-Apr-13 17:40:01

Omega 3 and 6.

Two a day.

You will notice your skin improve really quickly, especially if it's dry.

NotTreadingGrapes Thu 11-Apr-13 17:43:38

I did the glycolic acid stuff last summer and it really made a difference and I must do it again.

Sweet almond oil is not very "plumpy". I have tried rosehip, sweet almond and argan, and the argan was the best. As an overnight moisturiser. I splashed out on Liz Earle superskin concentrate at Christmas but can't honestly say it was better than the £5 argan. (though it smelled nicer)

The moisturiser I go back to time and again is Neal's Yard Frankincense nourishing.

I would like to ask face gurus (where is Missfoodie these days, has she NC? I also miss MrsMartin) what serum is working for them right now as I feel I want a new one.

coreny Thu 11-Apr-13 17:54:59

I really liked the neal's yard frankincense as well and was thinking of going back to it
I have loads of stuff to use up though, including some truffle cream that's meant to be nice

LyonsDemesne Thu 11-Apr-13 17:56:28

I have started using Astral as a moisturiser after having used a succession of creams. Inclusive or Creme de la mer/ Liz earle superskin moisturizer and I find it just as good. Of course I got the recommendation from S&B.
I also did the GA peel from Bravura and found it fab !
I also bought a clarisonic and use it with Liz Earle hot polish cleanser and between that and my GA peel my skin is looking better than it has in years and even my local beautician has commented on it.
BTW I am also a young 43!
I would love to do something with the lines around my eyes but I would be nervous of botox and the frozen look !
I also get my eyebrows tidied once a month and I think that helps also !

NotTreadingGrapes Thu 11-Apr-13 17:57:23

I do the baaaa thing on S and B but always end up back with NY. (currently finishing some Elemis marine cream - which I love mainly for the smell)

NY Frankincense is good. I'm using Superdrug Vitamin E oil at night and finding it v good.

coreny Thu 11-Apr-13 18:02:07

the body shop vit E night cream has loads of rave reviews on the site, but I haven't tried it yet

coreny Thu 11-Apr-13 18:04:22

this is really good - have used it in the past and really liked it.

coreny Thu 11-Apr-13 18:07:45

also this is THE best thing for lines around your lips

greenfern Thu 11-Apr-13 18:17:26

Op a facial steam does the trick for me if my skin is looking uneven.

Unfortunately it does not make me look ten years younger. smile

NotTreadingGrapes Thu 11-Apr-13 18:23:13

Oh god, I'm going to start baaa ing again.

Coreny, eye cream recs? I used the barefoot botanicals one in the beauty bible last summer and while it was very nice, and I did see some improvement, it didn't wow me. At the moment I have the Elemis one Pro collagen yada yada and it has done diddley squat for £££££s.

This thread has motivated me to order a new batch of GA though.

LadyMountbatten Thu 11-Apr-13 18:26:47

get the brows TINTED too

and def wear make up!

MrsCampbellBlack Thu 11-Apr-13 18:31:40

Eating fat helps too I think so avocadoes, nuts, oily fish etc.

And water.

But so much of it is unfortunately genetic in my opinion.

chocolateshoes Thu 11-Apr-13 18:39:46

my brows are black so no need for tinting - at least that's one thing I've got going for me. I think I need to get into some sort of routine - monthy eyebrow wax, weekly (?) peel, ......

Eliza22 Thu 11-Apr-13 18:50:01

I'm 50. Good days.... I don't look it. Bad days, I look my age AND feel it!

I like red wine and chocolate. I'm buggered then, that what you're telling me?

Am contemplating Botox on my "11's". I do drink plenty of water and exercise 5 x a week but look crap now, without my makeup. (Pics on profile)

OP, there's good advice on this thread but expensive lotions and potions really are cosmetic. When it all comes off, at the end of the day, you're left with your genetic gifts from your parents. (Unless you smoke and sun worship!)

chocolateshoes Thu 11-Apr-13 19:08:09

i think that's why I'll have to investigate foundation as well as working on remedying my skin the best I can. Have just dug around in all my bottles and pots and found a Boots face mask so sitting here with that on!

Pollykitten Thu 11-Apr-13 19:21:35

my faves are Clarins facial oils, argan oil with added frankincense oil (anti ageing and age spots), home glycolic peels, fish oil & vit D supplements, no soap cleansing, good eyebrows - get a good pencil one shade lighter than brows to even out thin bits, & a light amount of foundation, also on backs of hands

NotTreadingGrapes Thu 11-Apr-13 20:08:40

Right. Have looked at Eliza's pics and want an exhaustive list of what she uses, when and how.

Am 2 yrs younger than she is and I look like her granny. Eliza, your skin looks a-may-zing.

chocolateshoes Thu 11-Apr-13 20:17:54

Have now put on Morroccan oil I usually use for my hair onto my post face-mask skin.

Witco Thu 11-Apr-13 20:23:02

Marking place! What on earth is baaaa?!!'

Gorjuss Thu 11-Apr-13 20:27:09

No 7 total renewal micro-dermabrasion exfoliator and a bit of secret Botox on the frown lines.

NotTreadingGrapes Thu 11-Apr-13 20:28:52

Mitco, it's me being a sheep and buying everything anyone on S and B recommends, using it faithfully for about 10 days and then it ending up in a drawer. grin Which is why I don't look like Eliza....

YoniMitchel Thu 11-Apr-13 20:30:09

Aldi's Lacura range is surprisingly good, the wrinkle stop worked very well on my 11's, cant believe Ive been shelling out €€€ on creams for years when an Aldi cheapie is just as good!

Alibabaandthe40nappies Thu 11-Apr-13 20:32:32

I have had great success on my eye area and whole face with a combination of Estée Lauder eye serum and night time face serum. Really quite amazing.

I am 35, get on average 5 hours sleep a night and don't drink enough water, drink wine 3 days a week and eat too much cake and chocolate. My skin is really good and I swear it I the potions.

chocolateshoes Thu 11-Apr-13 20:55:45

I do need to do something about my 11s. Not keen on Botox. Might try that Aldi product Yoni.

what night time serum do you have Alibaba?

Eliza22 Thu 11-Apr-13 21:17:04

Makeup. Seriously. Without it, I'm not all wrinkles but, after a cosy (late) night in with a bottle of wine (or two, if being sociable) I look like my mother, who's 73. The problem with me is, I'm DEATHLY pale. I'm actually see-through pale and I have to use high factor sun cream because I come up in hives when the sun comes out. Last year (first pic) in Seville, I was sporting a Clinique wash off tan and a bright pink lippy which I also use on my cheeks. And lots of mascara. Colour, or lack of it, can make or break me. My DH laughs at me because I refuse to give in to my pallor. It's all smoke and mirrors darlings, all smoke and mirrors.

I love to see pale and interesting women. I envy them looking fresh and "undone". I could get away with that even ten years ago but now my fleeting hormones are deserting me and frankly,I need all the help I can get! smile

Alibabaandthe40nappies Thu 11-Apr-13 21:21:03

It is Estée Lauder as well.

Very expensive, but the bottle is lasting for ages. I've been using for two months and if I am a quarter down that is as much as it is.

Then I use marine cream on top, night and morning.

Wash with cleanse and polish at night, dr organic orange scrub and Elemis resurfacing stuff in the am.

Eliza22 Thu 11-Apr-13 21:28:46

Oh, I use the No7 Dermabrasion scrub thing and Roc Wrinkle Filler because it was on offer at Savers. And my Aldi SPF 50. In the past I've used Nivea and Estée Lauder. I genuinely think it doesn't make THAT much difference.

Foundation is Clarins EverMatte in Toffee.

coreny Fri 12-Apr-13 00:21:26

eliza you look stunning envy

best eye cream I've used is decleor excellence. It really lifts the lids (if you know what I mean - you will if you are my age or older anyway wink)
it pills though if you put it on over moisturiser, so you have to put it on first

I just used my Elemis Papaya Enzyme Peel so my skin feels nice. I need something for under my eyes. Do La Roche do anything good for eyes? I love Dermalogica, but can't buy that and foundation this month. I want to spend money on a really good foundation, if I knew where to start. At the moment I use Mac Studio Tint, which is lovely and light feeling on my skin, but I need more coverage now. My mother bought me a Mac Studio Sculpt foundation, but I wasn't keen on that. It felt too heavy.

NotTreadingGrapes Fri 12-Apr-13 07:14:35

Baaa baaa. grin

Ali, is it the serum in the brown bottle? The advanced night repair?

LAB- I am always on the quest for the perfect foundation as well. I am deathly pale, and though I wear makeup every day I don't think I wear enough as no-one believes me!! Probably my favourite foundation is Clarins Instant Smooth (the primer of the same name is very good as well) but I understand they are discontinuing it. I read good things on here about Rimmel Wake up foundation but tried a blob on my hand yesterday and the lightest colour here (sth Italy- btw are you in Italy too? Looking at your name?) was just too dark for mozzarella faces like mine) Might try and get some online from UK.

sussexmum38 Fri 12-Apr-13 07:27:42

I know how you feel as time seems to be catching up with me.

I try to drink lots of water and not too much wine but I think I need something more drastic.

Hi NotTreading. We have a house in Abruzzo, which we use for hols and we are renting here, long story, although we could end up moving there in a year or so depending on DH's job. I am weird because I do go brown, but I am very pale in the Winter. I naturally have very dark hair and brows so I look ill without any colour! Whereabouts in Italy are you?

CorrieDale Fri 12-Apr-13 07:42:56

I have nothing to add (other than that sugar is indeed extremely ageing and that sun protection is necessary at all times!) but I will never remember all these tips so I need to mark the thread and come back once eBay has finished its routine maintenance.

I have just learned that my phone autocorrects its to it's! shock (more for the pedants than s&b perhaps, but we are women. We can multitask.)

NotTreadingGrapes Fri 12-Apr-13 07:46:28

LAB- Puglia.

Fedupnagging Fri 12-Apr-13 07:55:36

Am reading this with interest-am 46 and my skin isnt too bad at the moment although very dry. I use clarins face wash and moisturiser every day and the night cream when I remember!

There are days though when my skin does look dull and old (weep) and could do with some extra help. I am interested in the glycolic acid treatments but wonder how harsh they are? My skin is not particularly sensitive but I do react to things with AHA's in. Any advice anyone?

NotTreadingGrapes Fri 12-Apr-13 07:59:10

Fedup- I have v sensitive and dry skin and only on week 4 or 5 of the 30% GA treatment did I have some ouchyness.

There are loads of threads from last summer when the peels were a MN trend, check them out to see which one the real acid experts were recommending. I started out on the 5% which made my skin feel nice, kind of like when you use a good serum or primer, but no lasting effect. The 30% definitely did something to the texture though, although not unfortunately to the 11s and the mouth lines. You start off slowly with just 1 or 2 mins and then build up. I only did 2 cycles in the end but am going to get cracking again now I think.

NotTreadingGrapes Fri 12-Apr-13 08:00:57
Fedupnagging Fri 12-Apr-13 08:38:26

Thanks for that NotTreadingGrapes-will do some more research.

I read up thread that you are looking for a foundation? Have you tried the new YSL touch éclat foundation? I am really impressed with it- not heavy at all. I had help in choosing the right shade (am really rubbish at matching my skin tone so either look like a ghost or I've been tangoed) and was given a sample pot that lasted for ages so got to give it a good trial run.

NotTreadingGrapes Fri 12-Apr-13 08:44:24

I haven't, no, but I've also read good things about it. Might give it a go, presuming that here in Italy they can give me a non-orange pot! It's strange as they obviously adapt colour names for countries as well, because I tried a "pure ivory" on yesterday and was like a Satsuma, whereas in the UK that kind of name would be fine for me!

NotTreadingGrapes Fri 12-Apr-13 08:45:18

(inspired by this thread I have just cleansed and polished my face, as although I do stuff to my face at night, mornings tend to involve aiming a bit of foundation in the general direction of my head as I run out of the door)

Thanks for the link NotTreading. Puglia, how lovely.

Eliza22 Fri 12-Apr-13 10:36:29

Coreny aww, thanks. Of course, I'm NOT going to put a "rough day" photo on the site, for all the world to see. wink

Just a little word on the alcohol intake thing.... This week, cause DH has been away, I've not touched a drop. My son has a disability and isn't well at the moment so, I don't drink even one glass when DH is away, just in case ds needs me in the night and I don't wake straight away. Have to say, I look MUCH better skin wise, for the cutting out of vino this week. So, it's true then!

DH back tonight. Have Prosecco chilled and will look like a bag 'o spanners on the morrow!!

Best eye cream IMO, is the Avon one. A cream and gel "in one". Don't know why, but it really lifts!!

coreny Fri 12-Apr-13 11:31:27

Actually that Avon eye cream rings a bell - I haven't used it but I've read about it.

NotTreadingGrapes Fri 12-Apr-13 11:33:55

In a white pot? I have one of those, but never really got going with it because it seemed faffy. Got gel one side of pot and cream the other? (told you I am a cream ho'er, have a pot of virtually everything somewhere in the house!)

Callofthefishwife Fri 12-Apr-13 11:41:42

I am 40 and about a year ago woke up to a similar scenario you describe.

12 months on and lots of experiments later I have come to accept I need to put in loads of effort all of the time to keep my skin looking the best it can these days.

I exfoliate 2 x per week. Currently using a St Ives Microdermibrasion exfoliant. I have recently settles on Body Shop Vitamin E facial wash, day and night cream.

I was using Dermalogica Active Moist range - which is fab but just too costly for me.

I have been bleaching my tache but am coming around to the fact it need to come off. I am conisdering threading over waxing. Brows wax/tidied every 6 weeks.

Eliza22 Fri 12-Apr-13 13:51:21

Yes...that's the avon eye cream. Not so much a faff but I always have loads of gel after the cream's gone. Downside? You have to stick your digits in it.

It's on offer now for a tenner, I think. Online Avon.

practicality Fri 12-Apr-13 14:14:08

My under eyes have developed loads of wrinkles in the last couple of weeks. They have just, well, gone all crepey. Suddenly too.

Weird.

I am trying to be all French about it and accept it as womanly. I am a bit mystified as they just seem to all have come at once. Leaning forward looking in the mirror is even scarier.

I saw a picture of Angelina Jolie with exactly the same thing yesterday and she looks none the worse for it. Graceful actually. We are the same age so maybe this is what happens naturally when you are in your late thirties and don't mess around with fillers.

I have decided as a consequence that all things chic are the way forward. I am middle aged and that is now fine with me.

higgle Fri 12-Apr-13 14:30:20

The recent weather has done no favours to anyone's skin. I always find it miserable looking in the mirror if it is very cold and the humidity is low.
Whilst I feeel about 106 at themoment I'm hoping that the usual return to lusciousness will come with a wet spring. Burt's Bees skin cream works well for me.

chocolateshoes Fri 12-Apr-13 14:57:33

I find it really hard to match my skin colour when choosing foundation or tinted moisturiser which is why I rarely buy or use it. But I'll have to take the plunge I think. I'm going for my eye-brow wax later so will ask the therapist about tache threading and see what she says. Have always bleached but it seems to be less effective.

My skin felt and looked better this morning and I think it was because I actually spent some time on it last night. Something I never manage to do. I'm going to try to have a much better skin care routine.

Practicality - its exactly that - loads of lines all appeared overnight!

ggirl Fri 12-Apr-13 15:08:38

Best thing for ageing skin is Retin A cream, it's the only thing that has softened my 11's .
Research it first before you slap it on , too much and your face will redden and peel , but lovely sin will be revealed underneath

Also a glycolic serum/cream helps to exfoliate ,hyaluronic acid serum helps build collagen. I got mine from Bravura.

Eliza22 Fri 12-Apr-13 16:12:57

ggirl. Go on, go on, go on! Tell us your Retin A supplier? Please?

NotTreadingGrapes Fri 12-Apr-13 16:24:27

oh ggirl! One of my beauty gurus! (it's me Bucharest!)

What should we buy from Bravura then apart from the GA peel? So many serums/creams. IIRC you are about my age so tell me exactly what I need to add to the Aldi/Avon/Estee Lauder bulk buying I am already planning!

MacaYoniAndCheese Fri 12-Apr-13 16:31:13

YY to Retin-A. I luffs it. Always begin with the gentlest one, as if you use the wrong type it can be very irritating. I also really like jojoba oil for my oily-aging skin. It feels rich and luxurious but balances everything and I haven't had a single breakout since using it. It also balances out any redness or irritated areas.

coreny Fri 12-Apr-13 16:49:22

Angelina Jolie will be interesting lady to watch...will she or won't she have stuff 'done.'
She has excellent bone structure though.

ggirl Fri 12-Apr-13 17:49:23

NotTreadingGrapes bucharest !!! long time no see.

I got my first tube of Retin A from dodgy site in Belfast called angelblu.com , but recently have had a friend bring me some back from Dubai. Think you can buy online from amazon. I use 0.5%.I use it under my eyes , on my 11's and the rest of my face avoiding around my mouth cos it makes that area peel .Only a pea size for the whole face. Be sure to wash your face atleast 20 mins before applying Retin A to allow your skin to go back to normal ph level, this helps avoid the skin reacting.

hyaluronic serum

glycolic gel

am going to order this as have run out of night time moisturiser

knackeredmother Sat 13-Apr-13 18:54:47

I tried the sudocrem mask, left it on about an hour, it really worked. Can really sympathise, I aged loads after having kids (I'm 37 look 50). I'm going for Botox and fillers when I've stopped breastfeeding.

Eliza22 Sat 13-Apr-13 21:18:28

What do you mean? "look 50" ? I've seen girls in their late 20's who smoke and have overdone it, on the sun beds who lock knackered. I'm 50 and a lot of the time I look good!

Age really is a number. I was out recently on a "do" and I was the eldest there. The age range was 30 ish to 40+. Again, I got the "You don't look 50!!" WHAT IS 50 SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE?

knackeredmother Sat 13-Apr-13 21:29:49

Ha! What I meant is I look a lot older than I am!

Corygal Sat 13-Apr-13 22:22:23

To be honest, you need to sort out (all the) hair on your head before you start on your skin. Change your hair colour to something less harsh, poss lighter, and closer to your childhood shade - this replaces the light to the face that skin loses with age (it mattifies).

Then wax your eyebrows and dye them - the shaping lifts the brow to where it was in yr 20s and the dye replaces the colour that fades with age.

Get tash and chin hair removed - more of it grows in your 40s.

Once you've done that, you'll know what you look like. Get a make up lady from a good brand (not a yoof one) to do you free and tour the stands until you find a look you like.

coreny Sat 13-Apr-13 22:25:35

yes agree with sorting out your hair

no more pony tails.

Get a really good cut and colour.

piratecat Sat 13-Apr-13 22:53:22

i use this from Clarins, i love it. exfoliator.

here

my skin is very dry, the winter hasn't helped this yr. am 44. last 3 yrs my skin has got worse. MOre wrinkles, larger pores, looser. I like Clarins foundation, that's my only makeup indulgence. I also use garnier bb cream, the medium one. really gives me a fresher look. I tried the one for sensitive skin and it was rubbish, settled in the cracks!!

coreny Sat 13-Apr-13 22:57:06

i have that exfoliator - i find it a tad harsh. Just a tad tho'

How long do you leave the sudocrem on for?

chocolateshoes Sun 14-Apr-13 10:23:15

think I'll try the Sudocrem mask this evening - but not overnight, just for an hour. My hair colour is fine, and having my brows done last Friday has improved things already. I', waiting for my delivery of products to come next week. Have booked hair cut for next week so will also go into Boots and be brave and try out the foundations. Eek!

CappuccinoQueen Sun 14-Apr-13 10:45:14

My beauty therapist said that wearing sunscreen everyday is really important so I use Clinique City Block religiously (it acts as a great primer under make up too).

Boots Protect and Perfect eye cream is very good. I've used it for about three months now and the skin under my eyes is very smooth.

A poster up thread mentioned the aspirin facial - it is AMAZING. Take six aspirin, add a few drops of water to soften them and then mush them up into a paste. I add a teaspoon of honey to the mixture, slather it on my face and leave for ten minutes before washing off. My skin is glowing afterwards. The first time I did it I went into work the next day and three of my colleagues commented on how good my skin looked so I would definitely recommend it smileAdded bonus being that it costs pennies so well worth a try.

Some fab tips on here.

coreny Sun 14-Apr-13 12:18:14

I've tried putting sudocream on my forehead overnight. My skin isn't plumped, in fact it looks quite dry but my pores are smaller and my lines are definitely reduced. I'm definitely doing that again.

piratecat Sun 14-Apr-13 12:33:20

ikwym about the exfoliator. i use a small amount and only every other day. I had a look and they do a cleanser of the same smell (it's gorg) i might try that when this runs out.

McGilly Sun 14-Apr-13 12:37:11

I am in a similar situation. I have seen friends achieve remarkable results by giving up sugar, alcohol, caffeine and wheat. But I'm not that desperate. I think a bit of pampering, good make up, really good hair and a wardrobe detox should do the trick. Eyebrows are critical.

McGilly Sun 14-Apr-13 12:39:37

I also really like the Aldi skincare. Experiment with foundations but the lighter, the better. Look for foundations that offer a "glow" - Loreal, Maybelline, max factor all good and this week I am using a m&s limited editions tinted moisturiser which is seriously impressive.

Of the budget foundations, can anyone recommend one for oily skin? It's my t-zone I have to watch! I want good coverage. My hair and brows are very dark and I have cool skin tone. I want to look fresh and not caked on though!

LittleBear - have you tried a BB cream? The Garnier anti-aging one is pretty nice, but too dark on me unless I have a bit of a tan. I'm very pleased with my new S&G one too - I have a greasy T-zone but getting a bit dryer elsewhere on my face, as I get older. It might not have enough coverage for you though, as it's quite light.

NotTreadingGrapes Sun 14-Apr-13 20:17:14

I tell you what you lot, this thread inspired me to get serious about my skincare again, and only 2 days after starting the old Cleanse and Polish properly again and I can already see a difference in general skin tone. My skin looks more radiant.

I am ordering some GA and the serum and gel recommended by ggirl from Bravura. I started on the Avon eye cream/gel duo last night. I am motivated to lose some years grin Eliza, I have lost the instructions to the gel/cream, am I supposed to mix them, or put one bit above and one bit below?

I found some samples in a drawer of the l'occitane divine serum and eye cream and used those last night, and my word they are lovely. I bought my Mum the cream for Christmas and it is very very nice (£££s though) the texture is, well, divine, and it has fab write ups. May treat myself when it comes on Easypay on QVC!

The nicest "cheap" foundation I have used is Maybelline Eraser, lovely texture.

I think the advice about hair is spot on as well. I have spent so long just scraping my hair into a pony tail with a hideous curtain fringe thing going on. I look so droopy. Think it's time for a cut and a proper fringe putting in to hide the 11s.

piratecat Sun 14-Apr-13 20:49:26

the Garnier BB cream is good, i have mainly dry skin and use the medium 'normal' one, but i tried the lighter one for 'sensitive skin', and it was better in a not so illuminating way but stuck to my dry bits. Would work well for more greasy skin imo.

piximonplus5 Sun 14-Apr-13 20:55:35

Oh gods I need this thread. Bookmarking so I can take notes.

Thanks for the BB recommendations Remus and pirate. I think I need to go shopping and try some things out.

NotTreadingGrapes Mon 15-Apr-13 09:55:46

ggirl grin do you reckon I can go straight to 30% GA because I used it before, or should I start again with the wussy stuff?

princessx Mon 15-Apr-13 13:46:02

This thread is great! I'm 35 and I've seriously neglected my skin since having kids. Going into work next week as currently on mat leave so I want to wow them ( or at least not horrify them).

I'm guilty of waaay too much refined sugar and caffeine, plus alcohol when I can get my hands in it.

Got hair cut and eye brow shape at weekend and feel much better for it. Now I'm going to have a week of lots of water and less sugar.

I would also recommend yoga to those that don't do it. The deep breathing is good for skin, and the twisting positions eliminate toxins. Also helps me temporarily get rid of my harassed and irritated look.

Eliza22 Mon 15-Apr-13 15:58:41

Princess I've just signed up to a yoga class, locally. I'm really looking forward to it and have joined for precisely the reason you suggest..... To relax and "iron out the wrinkles".

Just quickly, I picked up a Roc Complete Lift Roller Cream at Savers 2 weeks ago. Thought it a bit of a faff but have stuck with the massagey/rolling application. I kid you not, I look "plumped" in the cheek (by) jowel area and just not....so.....tired.

Yesterday, DH commented on my skin. He often says you look nice/like you in this or that but NEVER comments on my face. He asked me if I had a new "colour" (he meant blush or other new makeup) !

I went back today and bought another at £6.99 smile

mumtoh Mon 15-Apr-13 16:55:31

What a great thread! I have made notes of lots of suggested products (baaa - we need a sheep emoticon). I am 47 and often told I look 10 years younger, much of it down to good genes more than anything else. However, I have cleansed and moisturised religiously since a teenager (although not always at night...) so I think that has helped. I think there's a lot to be said for what you put into and do with your body like drinking water, less caffeine and alcohol, more sleep and exercise - but hey, everything in moderation and life is for living after all! However, as I have got older and lost 2 stone in the last 8 months, I appear to be more saggy - well not just appear but am saggy. Under my chin - neck tone isn't too bad but seem to be developing a turkey thingy- and also top of my arms, the loose bit next to armpit is horribly wrinkly. I go to the gym regularly and lift weights but its not getting any better, and I am so self conscious I can't wear sleeveless tops even though I have generally toned arms. Any ideas on what can sort those two out??

ggirl Mon 15-Apr-13 18:26:42

NotTreadingGrapes yes go for the 30% sizzle girl sizzle !!!

mumtoh I realllly don't think you should worry about slight sagging in areas. No one else care or notices . I think we expect too much , relax and enjoy your body..who cares if you have a few more saggy areas. You're healthy..enjoy it smile

mumtoh Mon 15-Apr-13 22:55:33

ggirl I think you are right and I worry too much!

NotTreadingGrapes Tue 16-Apr-13 10:51:29

Baa Baa
30% GA,
Hyaluronic serum,
Roc rollybally thingy

all heading their way over the sea to meeeee.

(and a new Maybelline eraser foundation because it's fab)

NotTreadingGrapes Tue 16-Apr-13 10:52:20

(am v tempted by EL eye serum but at last count had 5 different eye creams in my bathroom so am going to persevere for a while with at least the Avon one!)

NotTreadingGrapes Tue 16-Apr-13 10:55:30

(and all of the above cost me just over £30 including postage over here)

princessx Tue 16-Apr-13 11:41:02

nottreadinggrapes are there any Italian beauty secrets you can share with us? I'm guessing they would involve olive oil!

Just nipped to Aldi to look at sun cream. Saw SPF 50 but it was extra water resistant and I don't really need that on a daily basis. My mum used to buy Lancôme sun cream specially for the face, they had a different formula for the body. What are people generally using? I think body ones might be a bit greasy for the face.

Eliza22 Tue 16-Apr-13 11:48:20

I have an Aldi one for face. A pump dispenser thingy, SPF 50. I use it lightly and it is countered by my Clarins Ever Matte foundation so, I don't have a flat looking, dull finish but it's not greasy either. I find the La Roche Posay one rolled into little balls when I smoothed my foundation on. It gave a lovely leprosy look I wasn't expecting hmm

Marking place for tips still. I will check out the Aldi cream. I have to say, Dermalogica's skin smoothing cream is fabulous, I just can't afford it at the moment.

NotTreadingGrapes Tue 16-Apr-13 17:33:00

Haha, well, the Italians love a nice orange suntanned face, so they could certainly do with some skincare. They think I am bonkers with my sunblock "but the sun is good for you!!!!" as they flash their handbag leather faces at me.

They go in for intervention quite a lot, I'm in a small provincial town and the amount of facelifted, silicone-lipped, Nicole Kidman immobile foreheads around is quite something. They go in for slimming pills and magic creams to get rid of your cellulite as well. hmm

I find it frustrating that I have to buy almost everything from the UK, in a small town like mine you have chemists who will have Roc and Vichy and then high end perfumeries, with Chanel, YSL etc, and your supermarket has the odd pot of Nivea and that's that. And I so love a good rummage through Superdrug!

I am in the deep south though. Might be different in the north. I think in the past olive oil would have been a fabulous staple, but in a sort of rejection of "old fashioned" stuff they want their chemicals in fancy boxes now. (I got my beautician friend to try OCM last year but I'm not sure she carried it on)

grin at NotTreading. They're the same in Abruzzo. Looks lovely and sultry on the young.....then they get to thirty and start looking leathery!

I have just ordered some BB cream. I want to get a good cleanser too. Can anyone recommend one for oily skin please?

NotTreadingGrapes Tue 16-Apr-13 18:37:44

I use Cleanse and Polish but have v dry skin. I tried OCM but was too faffy. Love the smell of C and P.

coreny Wed 17-Apr-13 14:47:24

mumtoh - re inner armpits. I think this can be worse if you're dehydrated so check that. Weight bearing exercise are good - side planks, press ups etc. I think it's a difficult area to target with hand weights generally.

I have read that this is good but haven't tried it.
Take care with your deodorant - if it goes onto the skin area of the upper arm it will stop your body cream from being absorbed and it is also very harsh against your skin.

NotTreadingGrapes Thu 18-Apr-13 14:51:55

Now. I was channel surfing last night, nothing on, so I ended up watching the QVC beauty hour. baaaa. There was one of those demos on, for something called Flora Mare.....(Italian QVC) now I know it's all smoke and mirrors, but hey, so what....I kid ye not, the wrinkles and fine lines just went vamooooosh! as they rubbed this cream on. Looked like a kind of primer/filler type stuff. Have googled it this morning and it's a German brand, and sells for about 15-20££ a pot. Ingredient (apart from sea thingies) seems to be something called hydroxatone?

Would you all like me to buy a pot and get back to you? I feel I should. It was a lovely pot as well. Crystal blue with a wee starfish on it. grin

Ooh go on NotTreading, you can be our guinea pig!

NotTreadingGrapes Fri 19-Apr-13 11:37:34

G'wan then, twist my arm. I'll order some. <easily led>

My acid arrived this morning, and also the roc thingy recommended by Eliza.

I'm still waiting for my BB cream to turn up. It was £6 on Amazon. I will feed back on that when I've used it.

It's arrived. I will start using tomorrow and feedback.

Fedupnagging Fri 19-Apr-13 21:13:02

Looking forward to the review LittleAbruzzen.

As a result of this thread I spent ages in John Lewis and Boots looking at all sorts of lotions and potions and came away with a shed load of samples to try for anti wrinkle serums, bb creams, moisturisers etc.

My favourite so far is Origins Dr Weil Mega-Bright skin tone correcting serum. It costs ££'s though sad.

On the advice of MN I have also ordered the serum and glycolic gel from Bravura

Am expecting to look 10yrs younger by Maygrin

Iatemyskinnyperson Fri 19-Apr-13 23:09:05

Pure Argan Oil is excellent- moisturising & calming

bluepapermonkey Fri 19-Apr-13 23:18:35

tempted to agree with ladymountbatten but on the bright side, the observer or guardian or some such recommended the bodyshop vitaman E night cream as the best ever - and that range has 3 for 2 at mo. it's £11 a pop i think.

they do say that over a certain age you have to choose between your face and your arse. ie extra weight will help your face but not your arse and vice, keep the weight off and your arse will be ok but face haggard.

ExcuseTypos Sat 20-Apr-13 00:01:13

I agree with you blue. I'm 47, I've always looked younger than I am but have recently lost weight, through low carbing and exercise. My arse is amazingwink but I can really see my face and neck sagging.

I don't like it!!

iclaudius Sat 20-Apr-13 00:18:33

Face or figure is the phrase!!!
I juggle that one constantly as a nice youthful skinny body can leave me looking like a granny's head on top! 45 here and working hard on my look- dark eyebrows a must although I'm blonde - my worry is deepening smile lines and yes thin eye bag skin... Not sure of the answer but re foundations around that area less is definitely more -- I use petroleum jelly on the eye area to plump it

NotTreadingGrapes Sat 20-Apr-13 06:19:38

That's me too. My body is fine. Small pert arse, no hips whatsoever (am clearly really a man grin) But the lines from my nose to my lips are like the Mariana trench.

But hey, that roller ball thingy promises to lift those up as well.

NotTreadingGrapes Sat 20-Apr-13 06:20:46

My neck is fine too actually, apart from the odd lady-hair that dp helpfully likes to point out. hmm I have always slathered Astral on there though.

My goodness, wasn't expecting to feedback this morning, but the BB cream is fab! I look fresh-faced and smooth. Pleasant smell and glides on. I bought it on Amazon for £6.66, it's the Garnier one and it's 'light'. I thought it may be too light for me, but it isn't at all.

*the cream has a pleasant smell and glides on, not me!

NotTreadingGrapes Sat 20-Apr-13 08:49:23

Baaa <runs (clops? whatever sheep do) to Amazon.

I like the Roc roller ball as well. Started it this morning, was surprised to find a gel/serum coming out, as I expected a cream lol, but it feels nice and I can see how the lift thing will work hopefully. I remember having a similar Clarins cream yeeeeears ago, but you had to do exercises with it. Feck that!

NotTreadingGrapes Sat 20-Apr-13 08:49:57

grin I'm sure you have a pleasant smell too Abruzzen!

Thank you! grin

Yes, baaaaa indeed! I now have a beauty wish-list on Amazon.....

Eliza22 Sat 20-Apr-13 11:53:20

The Roc rollerball thingy "works" I think, by really massaging the cream/serum in, in a way "just fingers" don't. It clearly wasn't a big seller for rRoc, as it can be gotten quite cheaply and isn't on their website, as a "now" product. Whatever, I like it and definitely feel "plumped"!

However, DH returned from Germany last night after being away all week and we had a few little drinkies..... I look like hell this morning. (Reaches for the Roc/Clarins/and blush!)

cornydash Sat 20-Apr-13 12:46:18

that body shop vit E stuff has rave reviews on their website. I always fancied trying it out - may give it a go.

piratecat Sat 20-Apr-13 19:51:54

LittleAbruzzenBear,

glad it's worked for you, did you get the one for sensitive skin or the normal one?

I have the normal but dark. i love it (dry skin here) it hydrates.

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LeoandBoosmum Sun 21-Apr-13 00:28:06

Get some high quality fish oil! Eat avocados and unsalted nuts, especially walnuts and brazils (don't overdo though as fattening). Ramp up your veg and fruit intake, especially green veggies. Drink lots of water. Try Jurlique moisture replenishing cream (amazing for dry skin). If you ring the number at jurlique.co.uk and ask for a sample they'll probably send one or two sachets for you to try. A little goes a long way! Get regular exercise and fresh air. Try to get an extra hour or two in bed smile

It's the sleep for me definitely Leoandboosmum. I had a difficult pregnancy last year, I hardly slept at all from three months, then I had a second CS and to boot, DS2 not the best sleeper. I need sleep in a bottle. I do look better with the BB cream and make-up, but not as good as before the lack of sleep.

I got the normal BB piratecat.

I have just ordered the caffeine eye roller thing and am trying Anne French cleanser, which everybody seems to love on (baaaaa!) Amazon. I have to accept it's beauty on a budget for me at the mo and stop looking at my fav Dermalogica stuff.

NotTreadingGrapes Sat 27-Apr-13 09:42:27

I am now one week in to Eliza's Roc rolley thingy. I do like it, my skin is definitely more "glowy". (poss combo of Roc thingy, cleanse and polishing properly, the hyaluronic acid serum and putting my make up on properly instead of aiming it in general direction of face!)

Eliza22 Sat 27-Apr-13 10:56:43

You're welcome NotTreadingGrapes

I continue to "roll" and my 50 yr old cheeks are taking on a Lazarus role....truly risen!

NotTreadingGrapes Sat 27-Apr-13 10:58:59

How much do you squeeze into the thingy? That's my only quibble, I am squeezing until I have about half a cm on each side?

Am ordering them up from ebay like a madster as am guessing they aren't making them anymore! grin <<<lifted face

Eliza22 Sat 27-Apr-13 11:21:10

Yes, the " how much to squeeze" thing. Well, I look at my face and when I think I've put as much on as I would any cream, that's enough. smile

kittysaysmiaow Sat 27-Apr-13 13:49:36

NotTreading where did you buy the Roc roller thingy from, struggling to find it online

NotTreadingGrapes Sat 27-Apr-13 13:59:57

There are a couple on ebay, first one you get to is an under eye roller thingy. <think I need one of them too> the second is what Eliza recommended. The one at £4.99.

kittysaysmiaow Sat 27-Apr-13 14:14:00

Thank you, I've found it and ordered smile baaaaa!

cornyderpy Sat 27-Apr-13 14:18:11

I've started taking the supplements I put into ds1 every day and they have made a massive difference to my energy levels and amazingly they seemed to have improved my sleep.

So I've taking 2 osteocare tablets, 2 high quality fish oil and a multivit and iron. I'm just waiting for my skin to rejuvenate now!

Eliza22 Sat 27-Apr-13 15:25:56

Kittysaysmeow if you have a Savers shop nearby, ours had them in at£6.99. Limited stock so they're obviously discontinued products. Don't know why, it's good stuff!

kittysaysmiaow Sat 27-Apr-13 19:54:29

Thanks Eliza, sadly we don't have a Savers nearby (I checked!) so I've ordered online.

I bought the Aldi Lacura SPF30 yesterday. I put it on this morning and it's lovely, non-greasy, good stuff.

ToffeeWhirl Sun 28-Apr-13 12:08:12

Marking my place.

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