teeth whitening

(53 Posts)
appletarts Mon 08-Apr-13 21:27:34

Has anyone done a teeth whitening home kit? I'm a bit worried because a friend did her's and they look tip-exed. Does anyone have a recommendation please?

Charliefox Mon 08-Apr-13 21:47:40

Crest whitestrips. Have a look for other threads on here. Whitestrips comes up time and again.

SLallu Tue 09-Apr-13 00:56:23

Hi I'm a dentist so should be able to help .....
if you go for a home whitening kit get a professional one made by a dentist for two reasons
1) the dentist will check you teeth and make sure you enamel is suitable to whiten
2) you will get a perfectly fitting tray that will apply the get to the right parts of the tooth and avoid gums etc
\it is worth getting it done properly

Piemother Tue 09-Apr-13 01:04:06

I bought mine from a salon who first sent me to a denture maker to get a mould made from which he made the tray mentioned ^. The product was syringes of what is mostly bleach. It worked brilliantly and doesn't look like tippex but I know the look you mean as I've seen it on adverts for a local hairdresser.
I will warn you that sitting for 45 minutes with vile tasting gel on your teeth and not bring able to talk isn't pleasant but it did work and looks v natural grin

MrsMorton Tue 09-Apr-13 07:44:29

^^ there is so much about that process that is illegal in the uk piemother that I don't know where to start.

babybarrister Tue 09-Apr-13 09:52:18

mrsmorton and SLallu - I assume you are both dentists so a couple of questions:
1. would you do it yourselves?!
2. If so, where would you get it done and by whom?

Thanks smile

Piemother Tue 09-Apr-13 10:05:05

Mrsmorton - actually that doesn't surprise me from what I know of the salon owner bit hey ho my teeth and I survived.
I barely survived 18 dental surgeries on a root canal by a v bad actual dentist. Yes I know it's not a valid comparison wink

Btw how is it illegal? Just curious, not arguing

I'm a dentist too. Only a dentist or a hygienist/therapist acting on the instruction of a dentist can legally whiten teeth in the UK. A dental technician cannot. Then there are strict rules on the sale of the whitening gel, which have recently become stricter, even for dentists.

I whiten my teeth with a home kit, perfectly safe if done correctly. Impressions were taken by a colleague and sent to the lab for custom made trays.

If you buy a kit illegally you are taking a big risk.

MrsMorton Tue 09-Apr-13 11:34:42

What akiss said. (I don't think I've ever agreed with another dentist as much as I agree with what akiss says on here, this is not healthy...! grin

A dental technician isn't allowed to take impressions of teeth either IIRC. In fact one has just been convicted of the illegal practice of dentistry.

babybarrister I would but I can't as I have a crown which is lovely and won't whiten and I don't want it replacing as it took me five years to get one I was happy with. Home whitening kits are the best IMO, the trays which are made from impressions taken by your dentist put the right amount of gel in the right place without risking chemical burns, it's predictable with good long term results and very easy to "top up" if needed. The best bit is that you're in charge so can whiten gradually until you're happy.

babybarrister Tue 09-Apr-13 12:26:05

thanks - I will try the white stripes things then ....

Haha, so you read all the advice from dentists and decided to do the thing we don't recommend!

ItsintheBag Tue 09-Apr-13 12:42:39

How long does teeth whitening last? if you drink lots of strong tea

Crest white strips,what a dentist view on these?I am not sure I could afford to visit my dentist.

MrsMorton Tue 09-Apr-13 12:49:36

You can't buy crest strips legally in Europe. What that tells you about how they are regulated, who inspects them etc is fairly obvious IMO.

ItsintheBag Tue 09-Apr-13 12:52:44

oh really? I didn't know that! I have only heard of them from when I lived in the States, and when I heard them being mentioned on here assumed.

How long does the proper teeth whitening last?

MrsMorton Tue 09-Apr-13 12:54:21

Post at 1132.

There is some info from the GDC here

Quite honestly, if your teeth are stained from tea then a scale and polish with a hygienist is what you need. Whitening is to alter the colour of your teeth, not to remove stains. Trying to use whitening products on stained teeth is pointless.

MostFamousMonkey Tue 09-Apr-13 12:57:12

I had my done by my dentist. He made the moulds for my teeth, checked the fit, then I did the bleach at home following my dentist's advice to avoid sensitivity etc.
I did it every night for 7 days on lower teeth, then 7 days for upper. I do drink red wine and tea (PG Tips, it goes without saying grin). The results lasted for me for about 2 years. I then went back to my dentist for more of the bleach syringes. He checked that the moulds still fitted properly and then I repeated the bleach process at home. That was 18 months ago and they are still looking good now.

ItsintheBag Tue 09-Apr-13 13:00:07

Thanks for that most smile

ItsintheBag Tue 09-Apr-13 13:02:01

Oh I have had a scale and polish already.They do not look remotely white at all but now are clean so this would be the next step for me.

babybarrister Tue 09-Apr-13 14:23:42

sorry I understood that the crest white stripes was the sort of DIY home kit that was being recommended by the dentists ...confused

I had no idea that they were the illegal ones ...

Just to be clear then the dentists are recommending going to the dentist to have the gel mould made but then doing it home with stuff supplied by the dentist? Both dentists did mention stuff about home whitening so I am being completely stupid I hope grin

babybarrister Tue 09-Apr-13 14:24:13

I mean I am NOT being completely stupid I hope

Just out of interest, roughly how much would it cost to whiten your teeth at home with moulds made by a dentist?

greenfern Tue 09-Apr-13 14:39:54

I asked my dentist last week how much for teeth whitening with the moulds and the gel he stated if i had been on their dental plan £198. If not around £350.

My niece got the crest strips, her teeth came up great she did feel her gums quite sore afterwards but nothing major.

MrsMorton Tue 09-Apr-13 14:43:14

babybarrister, yes. Home kit that you get from your dentist, gel and trays. Not strips that you buy from t'interweb that could have anything in them...

babybarrister Tue 09-Apr-13 14:45:29

Thank you Mrs Morton - hopefully I will have a gleaming smile soon!

babybarrister Tue 09-Apr-13 14:59:51

do the dentists on here have any recommendations for which system to use or which dentist to go to in London?! thanks

MrsMorton Tue 09-Apr-13 15:09:19

Do you have a regular dentist? Are you looking for NHS or private?

babybarrister Tue 09-Apr-13 15:15:02

my dentist is an NHS dentist and rather old fashioned and a definite non-believer in whitening! I am going for a clean this week and am thinking about going private for a whitening at Smile Studio - do you have any thoughts?!

MrsMorton Tue 09-Apr-13 15:20:19

At first glance that looks ok, have you looked him up on the GDC website? I would go for the cheapest option as IMO (and I stand ready to be corrected by another dentist) the ipower type things are just a gimmick and you get the trays anyway. I haven't read anywhere that heating the gel is any faster or longer lasting etc than just gel at body temperature. I think you might get the hard sell but you can stand up for yourself (being a babybarrister wink ).

babybarrister Tue 09-Apr-13 16:18:03

he is certainly a qualified dentist though I shall check he is still registered with the GDC!

MrsMorton Tue 09-Apr-13 16:20:03

I had a look and he is although his website misses out a couple of the things that the GDC say are mandatory, maybe you could point them out to him and get a discount... wink

I have aregular NHS dentist.

At first glance that looks ok, have you looked him up on the GDC website? I would go for the cheapest option as IMO (and I stand ready to be corrected by another dentist) the ipower type things are just a gimmick and you get the trays anyway. I haven't read anywhere that heating the gel is any faster or longer lasting etc than just gel at body temperature.

I completely agree with this. Go for tray whitening from a dentist, don't bother with in surgery power whitening.

BabyBarrister: is the smile studio you are thinking of using Wyman Chan's place? I've seen him give talks on tooth whitening at conferences so I'd say he'd be a good person to go to.

Whiter: where in the country are you? Have you asked your dentist if they do whitening or if they can recommend someone who does?

ATouchOfStuffing Tue 09-Apr-13 16:44:17

For the dentists: I have a retainer made for me (had invisible braces a couple of years ago) - can I use these as the trays with a whitening product? How do you ensure it stays off gums?
Sorry to hijack!

I'm in London. I haven't been to the dentist for a while. Due my annual check up soon and will ask. Just wondering how much it would roughly cost as don't want to ask and look silly if it's completely out of my price range.

Thanks for all the great advice on here smile

ATouch: I doubt it. Whitening trays don't cover the gums and usually have reservoirs in which to put the gel. Either way, you would need to by the gel from a dentist and they would be unethical to sell it to you without checking your trays fit correctly first.

Whiter: I'm not in London but would have thought £200-350. You won't look silly for asking about it and then deciding not to go ahead, whatever the reason.

MrsMorton Tue 09-Apr-13 17:01:54

A nurse of mine tried to use her retainer but because it didn't have any space for the gel, it just squeezed out onto her gums and gave her chemical burns. She got the gel from a friend and it was far too strong...

Whiter, you won't look silly, if they give you a quote that's too much just say, ooh that's more than I wanted to pay but I obviously want to avoid getting it done illegally at Bluewater. You might be surprised at the outcome, especially if you're a regular attender. The practice I worked at where we did bleaching (I don't do it very often now) would give regular good attenders "special offers".

ATouchOfStuffing Tue 09-Apr-13 17:05:30

Eeek. Won't be doing that then! Thanks.

babybarrister Tue 09-Apr-13 17:05:40

yes it is Wyman Chan. seems he is offering discounts in times of austerity ....!

Great thank you all. It's a bit more than I was looking to pay but I'll ask next time I'm there and see what they can offer me.

MostFamousMonkey Wed 10-Apr-13 10:08:09

Just wanted to add that by having your dentist make the trays and applying the gel yourself at home which is what I did, you do have quite a bit of control over the level of whiteness you get. It's gradual and you can see each day how it's progressing. Therefore no Tippex look here!

babySophieRose Wed 10-Apr-13 11:10:33

How much whither you want to go? I am using Janina ultra white toothpaste before bed and Sonicare electric toothbrush with great results, very natural looking white teeth.

Jimhedrick82 Tue 24-Sep-13 09:07:48

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AngieM2 Tue 24-Sep-13 22:00:37

I had mine done about 2.5 yrs ago. Got trays and bleach from dentist. Paid about £100 but that was mate rate as my sister worked there. I've repeated it once since then but really I found it is extremely painful and my teeth are so sensitive that its almost impossible to do. (My friend had the same at another dentist and they gave her her money back as she couldn't complete the treatment)

ShotgunNotDoingThePans Tue 24-Sep-13 23:05:34

I had trays and bleach from a dentist about 13 yrs ago . Like the previous poster I couldn't complete as it was too painful.
I find Whitestrips cause pain as well.
I now have a kit waiting for me to make the impression and send away for the trays - cost about£100 and the gel is supposed to be a weaker % for sensitivity. Keep putting it off though as I'm chicken!

Mummyoftheyear Tue 24-Sep-13 23:15:33

Bought the dentist one. They made me trays to fit my mouth. Brilliant and can be used again and again in the future too

I had my teeth whitened at bow lane dental practise in London. I was thrilled with the results and paid for trays to be made that were moulded to my teeth so I could do at-home treatments. All well and good til I had the bright idea to sterilize them in baby's bottle sterilizer. I opened the lid to plastic gloop hmmhmmhmm

hiphapnap Fri 27-Jun-14 11:28:01

I did mine myself, Here is a post I did on how to do it for under £50. You need to be careful though and not cut corners.


Goldenears83 Mon 30-Jun-14 18:07:49

Hi all

Rather than pay extortionate Dentists prices I chose to take the DIY route after I had checked with my Dentist that my teeth were suitable for bleaching.

First I purchased a self impression kit.

I watched video tutorials on YouTube on how to take the correct impressions.

I purchased Philips ZOOM! DayWhite ACP 14% to use in my trays. This bleach is professional quality and professional strength.

Hope this helps.

Onesleeptillwembley Mon 30-Jun-14 18:17:07

Nooo. Don't bleach yourself!
I have mine done every six months or so by a lovely lady who does a couple of salons and home visits. Using non bleach gel and a lamp. As I'm a red wine fan my teeth slightly discolour in between. I see quite impressive results each time. And no soreness or sensitivity. £50. I'm really happy with it. So are a few friends.

doziedoozie Mon 30-Jun-14 18:25:42

I had mine done by the dentist. You have a mold made and squirt in the bleach. I just carried on as normal with the mold in my mouth eg watching tv, doing housework, but would spit out the saliva regularly. An hour a day for 10 days.

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