Is it really worth buying expensive shampoo?

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I look like a scarecrow and can't work out whether it's diet (I get my five a day), tiredness, lack of water, hard water in area I live, cheap shampoo or what! I had a haircut in December which wasn't a good one and looks even more atrocious now, but I need to grow it out a bit more I think before getting another cut.
In the meantime, is there something magical out there that will transform tresses so I don't have to hide under a beanie hat? I've been using Tresemme but wouldn't bother buying it again.

Fluffycloudland77 Thu 14-Feb-13 15:23:14

I used to use aveda but I've tried Pantene recently and I'm very happy with it, especially the spray on overnight conditioning treatments and the deep conditioners.

Then to provide enough nutrients for growth i take brewers yeast and solgar kelp off amazon. Cheap kelp needs 3 tablets a day but solgar is only one tablet. Then I take MSM and a fish oil and I'm trying to eat more seeds, particularly hemp and linseed.

Mama1980 Thu 14-Feb-13 15:26:09

I (usually when at home) use the Aussie deep conditioners and shampoo, found it made a huge difference to my thick very long hair, not so much in manageability but in shine and much less frizz.

Terpsichore Thu 14-Feb-13 15:49:50

I used to use Aveda too, and it costs a lot. It did seem to keep my hair looking v shiny and well-conditioned (people commented on it blush), but in the end I just realised I was paying ££££££ for, well, shampoo. Switched to Aussie stuff and haven't looked back especially when it's 3 for 2 at Boots

A good vitamin supplement might be worth trying, though?

Locketjuice Thu 14-Feb-13 16:10:46

What's an 'expensive' shampoo?...
Aussie is really good, wilkinsons do one exactly the same if you wanted to get it cheaper smile
And using a hair mask once a week, I find the ghd stuff makes my hair feel sticky so wouldn't recommend that!
Lots of conditioner and a good blowdry/straighten if you use them usually does the trick for me

Jazzicatz Thu 14-Feb-13 16:16:12

I have used really expensive shampoo and really cheap, I find its about choosing what is right for your hair. I am currently using one from the pound shop, which is just brilliant, makes my hair super super shiny, but when I used Aveda, it did nothing for my hair.

SquidgyMummy Thu 14-Feb-13 16:20:25

I put warm oil (any kitchen cooking oil is fine) in my hair for about half an hour before shampooing, Then it's fab instead of like a coarse horse's mane. However I have thick hair and on finer hair, it may make it go limp, worth trying though

noisytoys Thu 14-Feb-13 16:23:01

I use sainsburys basics shampoo and conditioner. Costs pennies and my hair is shiny and swishy I always get compliments on it smile

HazeltheMcWitch Thu 14-Feb-13 16:25:16

You mention shampoo but not conditioner. Are you using conditioner at every wash? I'd go for something low to mid-range (Aussie, Pantene etc) and leave it on for a few minutes.

Fluffycloudland77 Thu 14-Feb-13 16:26:19

Some of the patients I see are fed using tubes into their stomachs due to strokes damaging the swallow reflex (I am going somewhere with this) and the feeds are loaded with vitamins and minerals. They all have lovely skin and nails.

The hair isn't so good but often they are often very old so they don't have great hair anyway, but I wonder if a lot of these supplements for hair are mainly multivitamins and multi mineral with a few trace elements to make it sound special.

newgirl Thu 14-Feb-13 16:28:53

I switched to a shampoo (£16) that my hairdresser recommended. I was sooo cynical but it has made a huge difference.

Tip for conditioner - whatever you use leave it on for ages so it has chance to work

germyrabbit Thu 14-Feb-13 16:31:34

i went through a phase of using paul mitchell stuff but it always made me hair feel a bit weird and never really that clean. use tresemme now which probably strips all the goodness from hair but it feels clean and light

YulaBaker Thu 14-Feb-13 16:32:17

I used to use tresemme, made my long fine hair very frazzly. Moved to Dove and never looked back. Always condition.

My hairdresser said spend what you like on shampoo and conditioner but never, ever buy Pantene.

Primrose123 Thu 14-Feb-13 16:55:58

Locket juice, what is the wilkinsons one called? My DD loves the Aussie shampoo, but it's expensive!

carbondated Thu 14-Feb-13 18:30:35

I used Pantene and then Tresemme for years but recently changed to Redken products my hairdresser recommended for dry hair. Sadly it HAS made a good difference. My hair is shinier then it's been for years and far less knotty both when wet and when dry. They're about £16 each for the shampoo and the conditioner but saying that they have lasted since the beginning of November.

This is all really good. Thanks all! Aussie is coming out with good reports but I wouldn't call £3/4 expensive. What I meant is the salon ones they try and sell you at over a tenner. I have really fine hair which is currently supposed to be in a bob but has gone flyaway. I wash it every day and have to blow dry or it looks even worse. When I blow dry and go out in the wind it goes all messy and wavy and I look ragged. Need to find a better style methinks.

Does conditioner not make hair greasy and lank? I don't use it. Thanks!
Fluffy that's interesting about the yeast stuff. Do you think it makes a difference, ie have you tried using and not using?

HappyAsASandboy Thu 14-Feb-13 19:30:58

I don't think it matters which shampoo, but an intensive conditioner is a must. If you have really straw-like hair now, can you find a day to stay at home? Slather an intensive conditioner all over your hair an tie it up, then leave it on all day (and night if your happy to sleep with your head on a towel). Wash it off after leaving it as long as possible (even though it dries out and goes a bit crusty round the edges), and it'll feel really different.

Also, do use heat protector spray if you blow dry/straighten, and ALWAYS completely dry your hair before straightening.

HazeltheMcWitch Thu 14-Feb-13 19:32:15

Try conditioner! But put it on form half way down, and finger-comb to the ends only - ie dont lput it on your roots. Really, that will make the difference. Go for a lightweight one.

TheWombat Thu 14-Feb-13 19:33:18

I always bought mid-range stuff from Boots for my masses of fine, dry, damaged, long curly hair. Then I switched to litre sized bottles of redken shampoo and joico conditioner. My hair has improved beyond recognition, no more split ends, I'm amazed.

Even better, the bottles work out cheaper. One £25 bottle off eBay lasts me a year. smile

SoYo Thu 14-Feb-13 19:35:29

Don't bother with expensive shampoo but buy some l'oreal hair oil. Best thing ever! 2 pumps of it on wet hair after washing = lovely glossy hair.

ifancyashandy Thu 14-Feb-13 19:44:41

I use mid range John Frieda Brilliant Brunette (for I am one grin shampoo and conditioner. And them once a week I used eye-wateringly expensive Phyto Hair Oil (about £30 a pop) as a deep conditioning treatment. Pricey but works. And a bottle will last 6 months or so.

The above combo Makes my hair very shiny, smooth and easy to blow dry (and I do that everyday. Yawn.)

coffeeinbed Thu 14-Feb-13 19:48:17

Pantene here and Aveda conditioners.
I think shampoo only stays on your hair for a short time and conditioner for a lot longer.
So, logically, I save on shampoo.

coffeeinbed Thu 14-Feb-13 19:49:28

Tresemmé didn't work for me, but it might have been the wrong kind.

cocolepew Thu 14-Feb-13 19:49:50

I bought Dove shampoo and conditioner the other week because it was a pound in Asda. Its unbelievably good. I always leave the conditioner on while I have a wash, but I think its the shamoo thats so good, lovely and creamy.

I haven't looked back since trying brilliant brunette by John frieda. Smells nice, feels nice, makes hair look even nicer.

ProphetOfDoom Thu 14-Feb-13 20:06:32

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Thanks, Schmaltzing, I'll try the heat protector. And I guess the mousse - not mouse- [big grin] takes care of flatness?

Sorry that big grin should've been grin. Details!

Bouncey Thu 14-Feb-13 20:44:08

I've found expensive shampoo (provided it's the right one) makes a big difference, but I have awful hair - very fine and limp. Aussie is great but makes my hair a bit limp. Philip Kingsley is very good, but I'm currently using nioxin for fine hair. I buy it by the litre on feelunique and it lasts about 6 months. A good conditioner, from mid to the ends of the hair is also essential.

ProphetOfDoom Thu 14-Feb-13 21:03:46

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

I use Aussie shampoo/conditioners usually but have been using Organix which are good too. I do use Kerastase treatments though every week and they make a big difference.

maisiejoe123 Thu 14-Feb-13 21:37:35

I have very fine hair. Light conditioner on the ends only... And rinse quickly...I like John Frieda

TigerseyeMum Thu 14-Feb-13 22:11:57

THe Daniel Galvin organic range is very good, sells in waitrose and often on offer. Makes my frizzy hair glossy.

letsgetreadytoramble Thu 14-Feb-13 22:19:21

Brilliant brunette by John frieda here too, definitely makes a difference if you use it regularly.

BellaVita Thu 14-Feb-13 22:27:09

I like Wella Brilliance. I buy it at the hairdressers. About £10 each for shampoo and conditioner.

littledolly Thu 14-Feb-13 22:47:38

My hairdressers uses Wella SP, and I started using it recently. The difference it made to my hair was unbelievable! Lots of people commented on it, and I now rarely use conditioner as I don't need it. The salon charges around £14 for a 250ml bottle (I use the colour save one), but I got the big 1000ml on fabriah for £26! A huge plus with the more expensive brands is that you genuinely only need a tiny spot of the shampoo, so it lasts much longer.

TigerseyeMum Thu 14-Feb-13 22:51:05

I used to use Wella SP as well, forgot about that. Think it has SLS though sad

PetiteMum Thu 14-Feb-13 23:01:27

A teaspoon of honey every morning. Also multivits with omega... I find those really make my hair stronger and shinier. Shampoo wise, I'm liking dr organics coconut range at the mo...

perplexedpirate Thu 14-Feb-13 23:05:48

I know this gets bandied about a lot on S and B but I can't recommend coconut oil highly enough.
Slap it on at night (reserve pillowcase) wash out in the morning.
My hair feels lovely and is soft and manageable.
Plus it's about £2 on eBay for a huge jar.

Locketjuice Fri 15-Feb-13 07:52:21

Primrose 123 I will search it and find out, I'm sure it was something to do with Australian... Something?

DrHoraceWorblehat Fri 15-Feb-13 07:55:58

I use lush solid shampoo which costs a fiver. I've found a good conditioner is what makes the difference to my hair which is really think and looks a mess if not conditioned. I also use a bit of oil on the ends of my hair but if you've got fine hair you might not want to do that.

DrHoraceWorblehat Fri 15-Feb-13 07:59:57

Which coconut oil perplexed? Had a quick look and there's organic or refined, solid and not solid. Which one?

Chandon Fri 15-Feb-13 10:05:39

Tresseme is awful, imo.

I have long hair, in good condition, and I use the Aussie every day shampoo ( it gets hair clean, without loading it with silicone or crap, just clean), only wash my hair 2 or 3 times a week, do not use hot settings on hair dryer and straightner.

I think the next step then is conditioner. I fork out for a pricey one from REN, as it is silicone free and makes my hair soft and manageable without that "slick" silicone feeling. I find silicone makes your hair look nice for a day or so, but long term does absolutely nothing for your hair ( you just coat your hair in a thin film of silicone).

So I use this REN conditioner, not cheap but a little goes a long way, and helps keep your hair in fab condition, for the long term ( my hairdresser always asks what hair products I use, as hair seems healthy despite bieng so long). A cheap option would be to rub some almond or jojoba oil( holland and Barrets) into your hair ( not scalp, just ends) before you wash it.

Imo, most conditioners are rubbish, or worse than rubbish.

EllieorOllie Fri 15-Feb-13 10:41:37

Brilliant brunette by John Freida here too, with Moroccan Oil every day and Phillip Kingsley Elasticizer once a week. I only use a tiny bit of the expensive products at a time, whereas I wash and condition every day so go through too much to buy the expensive stuff.

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EmpressMaud Fri 15-Feb-13 12:20:54

Yes, I think it does make a difference. I used Kerastase when my hair was in poor condition, and it really worked.
I also like Bumble and Bumble and the Phyto products from Space NK.

Magicmayhem Fri 15-Feb-13 13:53:21

I'm supprise that not many of you like tresemme... I use the deep cleansing one and it suits my hair... I hate pantene with a passion... makes my hair go really dull and frizzy...
As a treat I use John Frieda Brilliant Brunette, or charles worthingtons for an extra shine.

TurnipCake Fri 15-Feb-13 14:18:35

I had very dry hair from almost a decade of GHD use. My hairdresser asked me if I wanted my hair to grow beyond my shoulders and I said yes. She said it would not happen unless I stopped straightening it. I went back to blow-drying and I bought Kerastase for damaged hair online (they often do deals where you can buy a set for a reduced price, and places like HQ hair often do 20% off).

I cannot say enough how different my hair looks now. It's shiny, in a very good condition, stronger and has a nice 'bounce' to it (which is surprising for my fine hair). When I next saw my hairdresser, she said, "You've stopped straightening it. And you're using a new shampoo!" grin

They're expensive compared with what you can buy at Boots etc, but they're very concentrated. My hair is now 5 inches past my shoulders and I only use product the size of a 20p piece, in the past I would really have to use a lot more product to get the same effect.

A little bit of heat protector and Moroccan oil finishes the job smile

That sounds good, Turnip. It's the bounce I really miss and I do get it at the salon but only then! As soon as I wash it at home we're back to flat, limp shine-free. I think my hair might be too fine for oil. What do you think? Fine hair that's chin-length? It's not remotely dry.

SteIIaBeIIa Fri 15-Feb-13 14:36:18

Sounds like I have hair like you OP. Cheap shampoo doesn't work for my hair. It would be like washing my hair with fairy liquid.

I used Ojon, Kerastase or Phyto shampoos and I like them all. Ojon is my current favourite. I try and hide it from the rest of the family but they all love it!

Naoko Fri 15-Feb-13 14:39:48

I really think it is about finding the right one for your hair. I'm too tight broke to be spending silly amounts on shampoo and I hate how conditioner makes my hair feel. I used 69p Tesco own brand for a while but didn't get on with it, now I use the Vosene anti-dandruff one (as that is a problem I have sad ). People comment on how soft and shiny and bouncy my hair is. Last time I had it cut the hairdresser said 'I love cutting your hair, it's in such good condition and so nice to work with, it feels nice' so that sub-2quid shampoo must be doing something right. I'm sure expensive shampoo can be worth it, but as long as the cheap one's working I'll not be remortgaging the cat to pay for it....

TurnipCake Fri 15-Feb-13 14:41:51

Percy and Reed make a product called No Oil Oil specifically for fine hair, it sounds like quite nice pre-styling (and you can put it in the roots too). It isn't cheap - I've bought some of their products before in a smaller size to try out, they may sell a smaller version of this elsewhere smile


wildfig Fri 15-Feb-13 15:58:37

Annoyingly, Liz Earle Shampoo and conditioner seems to have transformed my curly, colour-treated fine hair from a frizzy mess into a glossy mane, and I've had everything, from Aveda to Ojon, as well as the usual Boots selection of salon brands. They're £8.50 each but at least I know what to ask for at xmas/birthdays.

Megsdaughter Fri 15-Feb-13 16:04:28

John Frieda Brilliant Brunette here as well shampoo and condtioner.

Plus JF Frizee serum and JF 3 day straight spray.

It is brilliant on my thin fly away hair.

SoYo Fri 15-Feb-13 17:37:57

Oh actually yes, I agree with wildfig about Liz Earle, they're worth the money....glossy locks and smell amazing!

Dancergirl Fri 15-Feb-13 17:52:55

NO, they all have the same basic ingredients.

A boy at uni used to wash his hair in fairy liquid and his hair looked fantastic! But we did have the advantage of being Chemistry students!

maisiejoe123 Fri 15-Feb-13 19:42:24

Turnip - I had my hair cut recently by Percy and Reed... Saw a Spice Girl too there having her hair done. Very down to earth salon.

Callycat Fri 15-Feb-13 20:30:00

I used to work in a large cosmetics research facility. The inside word from the shampoo department was that for people with fine hair, actually cheap own-brand stuff is far better. The fancy stuff (like the stuff that this company made) is really only better if you have thick hair. Expensive stuff is only expensive because it contains silicones, oils and pearlisers - all of which are great for thick hair, but will make fine hair look lank.

And no, I ain't saying which company it was grin

perplexedpirate Fri 15-Feb-13 20:47:11

I use a cooking grade solid oil (it melts in your hands), but I reckon any of them will do the trick.
Good luck!

TorrieLou Sat 16-Feb-13 09:05:48

I would recommend Trevor Sorbie. I bought a whole gift set reduced in the Boots xmas sale for £7. The stuff in the pink bottles is for fine flyaway limp hair and fine using that and the heat protector and cream stuff you put on before blow drying really help.

Thanks Cally and Dancer brilliant to get the insider /scientist slant in here! I guess I'll just have to keep trying some of the different recommended ones on this thread and hopefully find one that works. I've got a salon mousse in today and spent time styling - for once DH was home so DCs weren't meddling with my hairdryer. It does look a lot better I have to say... But who has the time everyday?!

ConfuzzledMummy Sat 16-Feb-13 12:59:46

John Frieda is brilliant, I'm using bed head dumb blonde at the moment with the mega nutrient conditioner, I've not made my mind up about this yet. But i also love Dove, and the black L'Oreal Elvive is very good.

nogoodusernamesleft Sat 16-Feb-13 13:07:24

Full head of bleached white hair here! grin I buy the huge bottles of Joico shampoo and conditioner from TK Maxx, they cost about £8.99 a bottle in there. Then a bit of Moroccan oil on damp hair after washing - is keeping mine in fairly good condition with few split ends.

Viviennemary Sat 16-Feb-13 13:13:54

I mostly use Pantenne. And try to get it when there is an offer on. They changed things just recently which was a bit annoying. I don't like really cheap supermarket shampoo. But DH reckons there is no difference. But he would say that. I've never really used expensive stuff. I don't like that tressame at all. Horrible gloopy stuff.

Viviennemary Sat 16-Feb-13 13:15:25

Just a thought. You could try these special vitamin pills especially for hair. I've havent' tried them but have seen them. Worth a go.

notquitenormal Sat 16-Feb-13 13:35:41

I have lots of fine, quite oily, dark blonde hair and use albero balsam green apple...which is often about 1 pound for two bottles. I've tried lots of pricier shampoos but find that they work great at first but soon end up making my hair greasier and very dull. Silicone at work, I expect.

I use a teeny tiny amount, rinse well, apply a drop of conditioning oil after and avoid heat styling. My hair is in very nice condition.

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