Part 3- Fully fledged perfumistas- share your fragrances

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shoeprincess2 Tue 22-Jan-13 17:27:17

Part 2 is nearly full!

CointreauVersial Tue 22-Jan-13 18:21:08

Wafting in on a cloud of Sel Marin.....

DonaAna Tue 22-Jan-13 19:11:22

Limping in, coughing! Thanks for the new thread Shoe!
Linking back to the old thread as it is choc-full of info and experiences.

Calone smells aquatic, salty, watermelon-like. Sniff Cool Water by Davidoff and you'll know. Civet (or actually synthetic civet nowadays) smells skanky. It's used a lot in classic French perfumery (Jicky for example) but many modern perfumes have been sanitized.

If you want to learn more about raw materials, Essence and Alchemy by Mandy Aftel is a great introduction to natural raw materials. However, the overwhelming majority of molecules used now are completely synthetic. We speak of roses although we should speak of rose ketones and betadamascenone. Perfume Shrine had a great blog post about that deja senti / why everything smells the same now (=because nearly everyone uses the same cheap and plentiful aromachemicals).

MrsHavisham Tue 22-Jan-13 19:25:26

Just bought copies of opium, dune and amarige from the perfume parlour and they smell gorgeous! Thanks to whoever recommended it.

carbondated Tue 22-Jan-13 19:27:05

My new favourite (well, affordable favourite anyhow) is Shiseido Zen. I got it while I was abroad and absolutely love it. A tiny squirt of it lasts all day.
Dona I am gobsmacked by your knowledge. Do you work with perfumes?

shoeprincess2 Tue 22-Jan-13 19:51:09

Thanks for linking in the old thread Dona- didn't want to lose all that info!!

Haberdashery Tue 22-Jan-13 21:27:34

Hope you feel better soon, DonaAna.

I've just had a tiny squirt of CiocoRosissimo and I'm really not sure at all! The chocolate is overpowering. Hmmm. Will see how it settles down.

DonaAna Tue 22-Jan-13 21:37:12

Nah, I'm just an amateur - literally, I love perfume wink

Anyone can learn a lot about perfume just by sniffing a lot. Most people have very good noses - describing what we smell is the tricky part. Perfumers train that skill by repeatedly smelling raw materials, perfume accords or reference perfumes. Need an easy accord? Patchouli - rose: it's very common both in niche and mainstream. Another classic simple accord - labdanum - vanilla: amber. Some slightly more complex accords are the chypre accord and the fougere accord. Once you get some of these basics down, roughly classifying and naming perfumes is much easier. You could say fruity-floral is a basic accord too, but usually a fuity-floral has several fruit notes and several floral notes.

I find side-by-side smelling a very useful way to smell, especially among perfumes that are quite similar.

My personal ability to distinguish notes is average or below average. That's not my thing really - I'm after the moods and feelings and images that perfumes can evoke. I love quirky perfumes that dare to be different.

joliejolie Tue 22-Jan-13 21:41:43

Flowerbomb is my current favourite, but I also love L'occitane cherry blossom (only EDT though) and Pear and Freesia by Jo Malone.

IsabelleRinging Tue 22-Jan-13 21:58:59

I was wondering what JM pear and freesia was like jolle, as I have a big bottle of Pomegranate Noir which I am not fond of, and their website recommends layering it with P&F to freshen and soften it. Is it sweet? Don't really want to splash out though unless I would love the combination so might just ebay the PN (too medicinal clove for me). Also I would be more likely to prefer the P&F on it's own.

Anyone know the prices for the Chanel Exclusifs ?

MrsSchadenfreude Tue 22-Jan-13 22:03:52

£190 for the big bottle, around £120 for the small, Isabelle.

joliejolie Tue 22-Jan-13 22:12:11

I have worn pomegranate noir with the pear and freesia and they are very nice together. The PN is quite strong, but the P&F is very sweet and light. Love it!

bottleofbeer Tue 22-Jan-13 22:19:39

200ml is only £70 more expensive? might as well buy the 200ml really.

Love, love Flowerbomb. It smells warm? I like warm perfumes, Paul Smith's are along those lines but a fair bit cheaper, Flowerbomb is quite expensive for a mainstream if you ask me. I don't know how true it is but I once heard Viktor and Rolf don't do big ad campaigns precisely so they don't become mainstream - to keep them a bit exclusive?

That might be absolute balls btw.

CointreauVersial Tue 22-Jan-13 22:21:02

Isabelle, if you are passing through Gatwick they do the Exclusifs in the Duty Free shop at a marginally cheaper price.

IsabelleRinging Tue 22-Jan-13 22:56:24

Thanks everyone! Pear and Freesia sounds promising... may try it next time I'm spraying in the shops. Not a Jo malone fan really.

Good tip about Gatwick!

Don't think their theory worked then for Viktor and Rolf as I smell Flowerbomb everywhere along with Jimmy Choo and Juicy Couture.

Wearing Sisley Soir du Lune today, last bit of my sample, it is chypre, quite sweet though but does have a mossy note to it, it has quite a strong honey note in the dry down which is all that is left now after 17 hours. Quite tenacious at first, very long lasting. I think it smells expensive and classy and not too sexy a perfume, something you could wear to the office.

bottleofbeer Wed 23-Jan-13 08:13:02

I bought Jimmy Choo at duty free but I'm really not sure I like it.

I really want to because I bought a big bottle, not even particularly impulsively either. Tried it in duty free on the way out, liked it the entire holiday and bought it on the return. It's just sitting there now. It's another sweet one though.

I'm obviously going to have to just admit I don't, if I did the bottle wouldn't still be full a year and a half later. If I hadn't slopped a load of pillar box hairdye all over the packaging I could have given it as a present grin.

Haberdashery Wed 23-Jan-13 09:59:12

Testing Orange Star today. LOVELY. This opens with a really zingy amazing fresh bright orange/citrus smell, almost sherbety. It has started to get a bit more flowery now but the citrus is still really prominent - very impressed with this as I adore citrussy anything and usually that fades really fast. It's absolutely gorgeous.

shoeprincess2 Wed 23-Jan-13 10:13:25

Yes, it is Haberdashery. It reminded me of orange cordial or something. Really glad I picked it as a sample. I am racking up a fair list of Tauers that I would like to own as a fb, though realistically, decants are probably the way forward.

Haberdashery Wed 23-Jan-13 10:43:03

It sort of reminded me of squash, too (in a good way). But cordial sounds much nicer! grin

shoeprincess2 Wed 23-Jan-13 11:40:24

Inspired by you haberdashery, I have put on some Orange Star too! I kept getting wafts in the post office and thinking"something smells nice". Oh yes, it's me smile.

So, Mona di Orio scents- anyone wear, or tried the vanille? I have put the oud one on my sampler list, but have heard good things about the vanille too. I don't like overly sweet fragrances, so if it is very sweet, I might give it a miss...

DonaAna Wed 23-Jan-13 12:11:44

For me, Jimmy Choo was a real disappointment. It starts out well-orchestrated, promising a big, symphonic perfume, and is then gone in 15 minutes (what was left over was a squeaky, irritating bubble bath basenote). Perfumes like that keep pushing me to the niche side - they are engineered to facilitate impulse purchases at a duty free.

I have sampled a few Mona di Orios but not the vanilla. Cuir is slightly scary, Rose d'Hollande too ladylike and powdery; the amber is everything that I dislike in perfume (I have difficulties with the heavy-handed italianate style - Teint de Neige and other Villoresis; Profumi del Forte; the Acqua di Parma line - many other people wear them well, on me they are just leaden and oppressive).

Too sick to really wear perfume. But giving Antaeus a try - a bear hug of a perfume.

Haberdashery Wed 23-Jan-13 12:35:06

>> I kept getting wafts in the post office and thinking"something smells nice". Oh yes, it's me


I love the classic Acqua di Parma cologne which is lovely to spritz liberally on a hot day, but everything else that I have tried from that range has really underwhelmed me. I was particularly horrified by the almond one as I normally adore almondy and nutty smells but thought this smelt like a very sweet almond liqueur.

Pseudonymity Wed 23-Jan-13 13:19:11

Hello! I am obsessed with Noir de Noir by Tom Ford. Trying to decide whether to buy. I really connect with the Tom Ford Privé line. I currently wear Violet Blonde by Tom Ford (not a Privé). In the past I have loved and worn - Chanel Cristalle (a divider), Infusion d'Iris. I find that I actually hate most perfumes so finding the Tom Ford Privé ones, of which I like many, was a real boon. Sorry to talk of love and hate but it's pretty much like that for me with perfumes. Had zero success at my visit to Les Senteurs, sadly.

IsabelleRinging Wed 23-Jan-13 13:42:02

I'm now looking for a new fresh white flower sort of perfume for summer, can anyone recommend one? I'm not too fond of citrus. Was thinking of ordering a sample of Tauer Carillion Pour un Ange as the description sounds nice, has anyone else tried it and what others should I sample?

I am wearing Amy Childs today (thought I would give it a chance) and it is a blatent copy of Calvin Clein Euphoria which I used to like a few years ago. <wonders what it would smell like layered with the Pomegranate Noir>

Is scent and sensibilty any good for samples? They seem to be more generously sized ones according to their website.

shoeprincess2 Wed 23-Jan-13 14:08:50

Isabelle- I cannot recommend scent and sensibility high enough. Little 2ml spritz bottles for testers, and Ronny often puts in an extra sample in for you. I have ordered quite a lot of samples from there and it is excellent service! Not sure about white flower summer fragrances. Maybe order a sample of Pentachord White by Tauer and see what you think?

Haberdashery Wed 23-Jan-13 14:35:43

Carillon pour un Ange is lovely, Isabelle. It is intensely flowery with a similar slightly spicy, leathery drydown to lots of the other Tauers.

Scent and Sensibility is fab. I recommend it highly, too. V quick service and as shoe says, FREEBIES!

Haberdashery Wed 23-Jan-13 14:36:28

I wouldn't call Carillon fresh, really, though. It's more like being whacked over the head with a huge bouquet of lilies (in a good way).

Haberdashery Wed 23-Jan-13 14:38:01

Sorry, pressed post too quickly. What I mean by that is that it's pretty full on stuff, not at all what you'd expect from such a flowery perfume.

IsabelleRinging Wed 23-Jan-13 14:44:47

Thanks Shoe and Haber I had a look at the notes on Fragrantica for Pentacord and don't think it's quite what I am after as it has amber and vanilla in it. I was imagining something very green and floral and fresh, but also interesting. Something like Cristalle maybe, without all the citrus????? I love carnal Flower, but that is a bit too WOW for what I need for daytime. Think I will try Carillon. Bad idea to imagine fragrances in my head as they never seem to exist in real life.

Haberdashery Wed 23-Jan-13 14:48:27

Do you like lavender? If so, try Reverie au Jardin, also Tauer. It's a lot greener and fresher and 'cleaner' smelling than Carillon.

Maybe something like Chanel No 19 or the slightly softer Poudré version?

shoeprincess2 Wed 23-Jan-13 14:57:18

Yes Chanel 19 or maybe Chanel Chance Eau Fraiche.

IsabelleRinging Wed 23-Jan-13 15:05:59

Hmmmm, the Poudre version might a good one to try, have tried Chanel 19 and do quite like that, but it's still not what I am imagining. Has anyone tried Marc Jacob woman as that came up in my google search for 'fresh white floral perfume' ? I don't like Chance, but haven't tried the Eau Fraiche, that looks promising too so will give it a try, as long as it's not too lemony.

shoeprincess2 Wed 23-Jan-13 15:09:46

Why don't you try one of the Guccis- maybe Flora, or Gorgeous Gardenia, or Glamorous Magnoila. They might be something for summer.

IsabelleRinging Wed 23-Jan-13 17:58:45

Thanks shoe, some good ideas. Can't wait for my Manchester shopping trip on Saturday, have so many perfumes I want to have a sniff at, I might have to take my coffee beans in my handbag to sniff between scents.

bottleofbeer Wed 23-Jan-13 20:03:30

Strange, I think Jimmy Choo really, really lingers. This threads prompted me to try it again. Had a bath since (still didn't like it) but I can still smell it. It's almost chemical though.

I've got a feeling I was doing the whole tarts handbag thing in the duty free and have accidentally hit upon an amazing combo that I've assumed to be the JC grin I honestly can't fathom why on Earth I bought it otherwise. It's unpleasant.

shoeprincess2 Wed 23-Jan-13 20:06:46

Don't forget to pop into Space NK on St Ann's Square and have a smell of some of the Tocca fragrances. There might be something there that takes your fancy. House of Fraser (Kendals) as well and maybe score some samples!

coffeeinbed Wed 23-Jan-13 20:12:54

Isabelle, the new Hermes is beautiful flower one.
Or try Eau du Ciel, Le Chevrefeille - that's very fresh and green honeysuckle.
Artisan L'Ete en douce and L'eau dArtisan are lovely.
If you like Carnal Flower try La Chasse au Papillons - white flowers and tuberose again, but much more tempered.

IsabelleRinging Wed 23-Jan-13 21:29:05

The Hermes one sounds promising from the reviews, doesn't seem to be available yet though. I luurrve Hermes just for their bottles. I have Kelly Caleche which I love and to me smells really leathery, but reviews say it is barely noticeable, I can smell leather in this much more than I can in things like No19, where I can only really smell moss in the base with a hint of leather. It is lovely. I have tested the Jardin series loads, and I find them really fascinating, but none of them seem wearable to me. Apres a la mousson is beautiful and I love smelling it on a tester strip, but there is something nauseous about it, like over ripe melon.

Haberdashery Thu 24-Jan-13 10:33:52

Une Rose Chyprée today. So far, absolutely lovely. It has a similar sharp sherbety note in the opening which reminds me of Orange Star. It's a bit softer and less in your face than some of the other Tauers. But a gorgeous smell all the same. The rose is very light and soft. Very very nice indeed.

Haberdashery Thu 24-Jan-13 10:59:48

Oooh! The postman has just been and my Knize Ten has arrived! I haven't tried it yet. I'm waiting for my Rose Chyprée to fade and finish. Rose Chyprée is nicely warm now. I can still smell the flowers. I think this is a really sophisticated smell. It's very grown up.

shoeprincess2 Thu 24-Jan-13 11:06:03

Une Rose Chypree sounds beautiful. I think I shall be ordering a sample of that. Excited for your Knize 10 sample too... It is going to be part of my next les senteurs order. My postman sometimes only arrives at 4pm angry

DonaAna Thu 24-Jan-13 11:58:39

A quick hi to everyone. Hats off brave ladies, Knize 10 is quite scary!
Can smell something, but don't want to wear anything very risky, so Seville l'aube it is.

When it wears of, I could put on some Une Rose Chypree as well. Or Lys du Desert which would also feel lovely on a cold but bright winter day.

Aren't Tauers wonderful? I'm so happy that so many of you have found them.
I think the sharp mandarin opening note is one of the Tauer signatures (the Tauerade base being another).

shoeprincess2 Thu 24-Jan-13 12:03:21

<waves to Dona > Hope you are keeping well and the cold is improving. I have a grumpy baby with the same thing- poor boy. So, we're camping in our lounge today. Agree with you on the Tauer opening and closing- it's the middle bits that vary. I am looking forward to Haberdashery's report on the knize 10. I like the idea of scary. I don't do safe anymore grin

Haberdashery Thu 24-Jan-13 12:42:12

Hi DonaAna. Hope you're completely better soon.

Rose Chyprée is getting better and better - I think this one is a real classic - quite spicy and warm now but the rose is still there, floating over the top. It's just beautiful all the way through. I may try a bit of Knize 10 later as I'm really looking forward to it. I also like the idea of scary! CDG Tar sounded scary but actually turned out to be incredibly wearable.

Lonestar was the first Tauer I tried and that is quite different at the start from a lot of the others. They all have that amazing spicy warm base, though.

CointreauVersial Thu 24-Jan-13 12:55:14

I feel another sample order coming on.... so many more I want to try. I have a list! I am still waiting for the second half of my S to C order, so I really ought to wait a while.

Chanel Coromandel today - I was in a rush this morning and it was the first one to hand, but it is lovely. I now have a 10ml decant so I don't have to fret about my sample running dry.

DonaAna Thu 24-Jan-13 13:21:09

Cointreau this is a perfect time for Coromandel.
Tauer does modern orientals really well. After falling in love with a couple of his perfumes it's really difficult to get excited about the newest mainstream Angel clone. wink

Shoe forza! Feel for you, hope the baby gets better soon (and elevate the head part of the crib - phonebooks or Russian novels are good props). My "sick" preschooler has been playing on iPad for most of the day <good parenting award>

Really need to wear Une Rose Chypree. Haber I love your description.

Need to muster the enthusiasm for a couple more hours of writing somehow <yawn>

I'm idly wondering whether I could somehow route a work trip via Munich. There is a perfume heaven there (Suendhaft - they do samples too) that I'd really like to visit....

shoeprincess2 Thu 24-Jan-13 13:31:57

Ha- yes, a good Tolstoy does the trick under the mattress smile. Just heard that our friend's little boy has got a chest infection- we saw them on Sunday. Eeeek! I am wearing Bois Des Iles today. It is ok, but it's no Coromandel.

Haberdashery Thu 24-Jan-13 13:45:45

Une Rose Chyprée continues to surprise. It seems to have a soft warm almost jammy note in the middle, rather like the sweet puddingy hit near the end of Lonestar. Unlike Lonestar, I'm also getting an almost soapy clean-smelling waft along with the jam. Most surprising in both cases and not at all what I was expecting to happen! I do like perfumes like this where the smell changes and evolves with time.

I also have a List, Cointreau. Sadly, it seems to be getting longer with time rather than shorter. Well, not really sadly but quite expensively...

Haberdashery Thu 24-Jan-13 13:46:25

And good wishes to all poorly people. My daughter was coughing and sneezing this morning so it's only a matter of time until I join you.

YouOldSlag Thu 24-Jan-13 16:06:14

Isabelle- you might like Cristalle Eau Vert. It's a very light floral and very delicious.

In other news, today I tried at random, Ghost Sweetheart.

It is utterly vile and it won't bloody go away!

IsabelleRinging Thu 24-Jan-13 16:16:43

I do actually have Cristalle eau Vert grin. I do quite like it, but don't love it as i'm not a big citrus fan and to me it is lemon. It's very refreshing on hot days which is the only time i enjoy it.

Yes, Ghost sweetheart! YUK! I gave mine to my daughter to play with! The original Ghost smells cheap to me as well. I have a well meaning realative who gives me a scent every christmas. The last few years it has been Ghost Sweetheart, Ghost, Bench EDT, and this year it was Amy Childs EDT! DH has had the pleasure of UMBRO, David Beckham, M&S something, and Calvin Clein in a plastic bottle (can't remember it's name).

Wearing Ellie Saab today- bored of it though.

farewellfarewell Thu 24-Jan-13 16:37:11

Has Cabotine de Gres been mentioned? Stalked a college mate until I found out the name of her scent and have used it since.

shoeprincess2 Thu 24-Jan-13 16:39:49

farewell- i think there was a fair bit of love for Cabotine in the second part of the perfumista thread. I know I owned a bottle about 20 years ago, when I was a shy, awkward teenager. I didn't appreciate then, so maybe I need to re-discover grin

YouOldSlag Thu 24-Jan-13 16:49:18

I'm a big fan of Cabotine and its surprisingly affordable. A beautiful green floral!

Haberdashery Thu 24-Jan-13 20:55:12

<updates List>

IsabelleRinging Thu 24-Jan-13 21:45:51

I have never heard of Cabotine, where can I try it?

It is a bargain price on Cheap Smells £12.75 for 100mls!

CointreauVersial Thu 24-Jan-13 22:51:34

I used to love Cabotine, very pretty.

My next batch of samples arrived today, including the Knize Ten. I opened the five samples for a quick sniff and got a little on my fingers, and it reeked! For hours. I don't know which one was the culprit but I clearly am not going to like all of them.

From what I could work out the Knize Ten smelled like a bicycle repair shop, all oil and rubber. I will report back once I've tried it on skin (which might not be this weekend as I have a family party and don't want to scare Grannygrin ).

YouOldSlag Thu 24-Jan-13 22:52:23

I was surprised to find Cabotine in my local High Street branch of The Perfume Shop. It was £20 for 100mls, so do as I do- try it in the shop then buy it cheaper online.

Haberdashery Fri 25-Jan-13 10:47:06

Oooh, Cointreau, what did you get apart from Knize Ten?

I've just put some Knize Ten on. I am loving it so far. I have only just put it on but the opening is lots of tar and rubber, very uncompromising and harsh, but I'm also getting a sweet gentle floral note which is putting me very much in mind of Parma Violets (a smell I absolutely love). I'm very very interested to see how this develops. Not what I was expecting at all.

CointreauVersial Fri 25-Jan-13 11:23:16

I'm trying the first of my newly-arrived samples today - Timbuktu by L'Artisan Parfumeur. I bought it mainly because it is rated very highly by Turin/Sanchez and the notes sounded interesting.

Well, I'm completely underwhelmed so far.hmm I put it on first thing; it smelled innocuous and mildly soapy and had virtually disappeared by the time I got back from the school run. So I ladled on a bit more.....still....meh. If I press my nose into my wrist I can just detect an incensey note, but it's soooo soft. Maybe I've been spoiled by all the big butch Tauers and Tom Fords I've been sampling recently, but I do like a fragrance to have a bit of presence, like to smell it wafting around me occasionally during the day.

Anyway, I just re-read the Luca Turin review, and he said that he was similarly unimpressed the first time he tried it, but realised on later testing that it was a great fragrance, so maybe I'll come back to it.

I have Knize Ten, L'Heure Bleue (tried before, just wanted to wear it a few times), Le Labo Iris 39 and, the one I'm most looking forward to trying, Ambre Sultan.

Haberdashery Fri 25-Jan-13 11:49:43

Exciting stuff. I know someone who loves Timbuktu but I've never tried it. I am looking forward to hearing what you think of Ambre Sultan.

Knize Ten continues surprising and lovely. I'm getting whiffs of dark leather and spice now in combination with something that's reminiscent of cherry Tunes. That and the violet must be some kind of olfactory illusion because they're not mentioned in the notes listed in various places online at all. I am absolutely in love with this. It's amazing. And I discovered that Manufactum sell 15ml of it for not much money at all. Hoorah!

coffeeinbed Fri 25-Jan-13 16:30:02

I'd love to know what you think of Iris39, Cointreau.
been wearing it almost nonstop since Christmas.

shoeprincess2 Fri 25-Jan-13 16:51:04

Knize 10 sounds right up my street, seeing as I adore rubbery leather smells <deviant face>. Ambre Sultan is absolutely gorgeous. I have just put some on and it justs lifts my mood. Cointreau- I do think the big ballsy Tauers and Tom Fords spoil you for other fragrances. I feel cheated if a scent whispers instead of shouts. I'm not a loud person, either, so obviously I like my perfume to do the talking!

Just heard about another site UK based and do a 7 pack sampler of Histoires De Parfum for a tenner <hides credit card>.

Have a fragrant weekend

DonaAna Fri 25-Jan-13 20:37:59

Hats off to Haber. You really have guts! Knize 10 conquered. You go girl!
Now go to Basenotes and find Alfarom there (he also has a blog). You'll probably like most of what he recommends - he loves rare, edgy, fierce things. CdG, Knize, whatnot... Go and enjoy, and please keep reporting! (I'm sure you'll enjoy his avatar too.) I wouldn't be surprized if Knize 10 had some methylionone in the mix - you have a good nose and I would trust it. Perfume companies take a lot of artistic liberty with notes lists and a butchy classic might not want to be seen in public wearing a gauzy violet tutu.

A superbusy workday. Haven't even thought about perfume, let alone put any on. Will wear something tomorrow for sure. <going cold turkey, shaking>

Coffee Iris 39 is lovely, really up my street. I also own Iris Silver Mist, 28 La Pausa, Zagorsk, and Pentachord White and these five great perfumes satisfy all my iris/irone needs.

Shoe I'm not sure anyone who hasn't tried Histoires de Parfums can call herself a true perfumista wink They have so many great perfumes they must have something for everyone. You actually inspired me to get out of my warm bed (yes, I'm wiped out) and walk all the way across the house to put on some Moulin Rouge. Mmmm, so good, I should wear this much more often...

I love quite a few blockbuster perfumes. I once wore Kouros on one wrist and Le Male on another I have a fondness for Poison, Amarige, etc, and have toyed with the thought of getting a mini of vintage Giorgio grin
Loud perfume is generally not a problem in Italy - frail old ladies wear Fracas on public transport. The only time I have gotten angry stares was when I was testing Code pour Femme by Armani in a supermarket. <heave>

Rollergirl1 Fri 25-Jan-13 21:01:15

What a great thread! I love perfume and I will take my time to go back and read all posts properly.

My current perfume is Valentina by (surprisingly enough) Valentino. I always seem to be drawn to the same types of perfume. Sweet, almost on the verge of being cloying. They are generally pink in colour (but I guess that doesn't mean anything?). Past faves have been Lola, Stella, Flowerbomb, Ghost, Jean Paul Gaultier.

My all time fave perfume, and the one that got away, is Strenesse by Gabriele Strehle. This one wasn't pink (although it smelled like it should be). No, this one looked like a big plastic test tube full of spunk. But it was utterly gorgeous and I was gutted when they stopped producing it.

DH is a bit of a "fragrance" nutter too. He loves loves loves most of the Commes des garcons stuff. The more artificial smelling the better. Bring on the nail varnish remover! I recently bought him Molecule 01, recommended by the salesman at Liberty's. I'm sure you've all heard about it. DH wasn't/isn't impressed. It just doesn't smell. You can smell it when he first puts it on but within 30 mins it's gone. Massive waste of money, don't believe the hype!

Rollergirl1 Fri 25-Jan-13 21:10:44

Still reading the thread, but just wanted to ask:

DonaAna: Have you read the book Perfume by Patrick Suskind?

DonaAna Fri 25-Jan-13 21:39:27

Roller I have two copies of the Süskind book (love the cover art) but haven't read it <shameful secret>

You are intriguing me with pink perfumes. I can think a several that smell pink to me - Beige by Chanel, Acqua e Zucchero by Profumum Roma, Gourmand Coquin by Guerlain - but I'm not quite sure what they look like. DDs love Aquolina Pink Sugar wink Acqua e Zucchero is e perfect brunch perfume for me (pure patisserie) so might wear it tomorrow.

Molecule 01 is pure Iso E Super. Some people can't smell it at all. I can feel in on me for up to 48 hours sometimes - it comes and goes but is very tenacious. I used to love Iso E Super but it's sloppily overused as a substitute for cedar these days in far too many perfumes these days and I've gotten a bit tired of it.

Anyone feeling a bit sample greedy? Don't forget Parfümeria Neroli. They have some of the cheapest perfume samples in Europe and a great lineup. Well worth the postage fees and currency calculations. My Acqua e Zucchero and Molecule 01 samples come from them...

williaminajetfighter Fri 25-Jan-13 21:49:44

Isabelle. Kai is a great white flowers perfume. Really gorgeous and it's an oil so has lots of longevity. Apparently worn by Jennifer Aniston and other celebs blah blah

I've tried so many products but too many of the High st brands are watered down and just smell like alcohol. Right now love Serge Lutens Louve and this amazing perfume called Lemon Cloud. Crisp lemons on a cloud of marshmallows!

I buy all my samples from Luckyscent in the US. Is there a better UK source for samples?

YouOldSlag Fri 25-Jan-13 21:52:16

Louve made me feel drunk on cherry brandy! Whoa there on the cherries Serge!

Rollergirl1 Fri 25-Jan-13 21:58:28

Surely the colour has nothing to do with the scent? That's just marketing, non?

Rollergirl1 Fri 25-Jan-13 22:00:14

So 16 - 25 girls like pink perfume. Let's package accordingly.

Haberdashery Fri 25-Jan-13 22:02:36

I will definitely go and look out for Alfarom, DonaAna. Thanks for the tip. I was very surprised at how very floral Knize Ten turned out. I honestly wasn't expecting that. I'd read reviews but not looked up notes as, having been told it was a bit scary, I wanted to see what I thought without preconceptions.

Pink perfumes made me smile but I know exactly what you mean, Rollergirl. I hate 'pink' perfumes and am divided on brown ones but like very few of them. I like green, yellow, white, orange and tan/bronze perfumes. I like a few blue ones. Black ones are mostly OK. Purple, well, I'm not sure I know any purple perfumes. Maybe Poison?

William, Scents and Sensibility has been really good for me. They usually chuck a reasonably sized freebie sample in if you order a few at once so it works out as pretty decent value.

Intrigued by Histoires de Parfums. I will have to investigate.

DonaAna Fri 25-Jan-13 22:09:12

UK is a pretty dismal place for a HC perfume lover - the main options are Les Senteurs and Scent and Sensibility and some of the better department stores. Escentual sometimes does samples.

Luckyscent sells many really unique perfumes. I love them and would order more often but Italian customs steal my packages.

I have a great selection of niche and mainstream perfumes locally - if I order by mail, I tend to order from perfume houses directly. But I love Alla Violetta and Parfümeria Neroli - both have exquisite things. But yes, for some things US based Surrender to Chance and Luckyscent are the only options. And Crystal Flacon is the place for decants - some UK based sellers there too.

Finally, there is First in Fragrance (German). I find their website clunky and never order from them, but they have a lot of unusual things too. Suendhaft intrigues me (their samples are 4€ each).

CointreauVersial Fri 25-Jan-13 22:37:05

DonaAna, noooo, not Giorgio! I love the description of it in the Turin/Sanchez book "a twelve foot singing canary".

Brings back too many memories of working there - happy days, though (met my DH there).

williaminajetfighter Fri 25-Jan-13 23:12:31

Wow Donna you know your stuff!

Louve is great and I love cherry almondy smells. Also a big fan of Micallef Vanilla fleur. I really don't have a very refined palette! It's all food for me!

Dailypolish Fri 25-Jan-13 23:46:32

I'm boring, I only wear one scent, it's my signature! Le Labo - Poivre 23

williaminajetfighter Sat 26-Jan-13 00:05:38

I love le labo perfumes. Quite partial to Ambrette.

DonaAna Sat 26-Jan-13 12:54:24

I need some Giorgio in my lifewink
When I was a teen, a friend wore the yellow classic Giorgio and another Red by Giorgio. In the same room <ka-powww>

A slow, sun-drenched day with Acqua e Zucchero. Don't wear this if you are on a diet. This is a refined mix of all the most delicious bakery smells - a lazy brunch in a bottle. I think the top note is synthetic strawberries or a mix that in Italy is called 'frutti di bosco' - add lots of almond croissant and lashings of pastry cream and you'll get the idea. And did I mention that I'm about to go out to the cafe/pasticceria next door to retrieve a tiramisu cake I ordered an hour ago? wink

Some of us are born gourmand-lovers. One of my most experienced perfumista friends is a gourmand lover and he wears screechy synthetics and sickly ethylmaltols with a panache. His top tip? Try A*Men at least once before you die grin

niminypiminy Sun 27-Jan-13 13:47:12

I was lured by the discussion of Tauer scents a couple of pages back to order some samples (well, it was my birthday. I liked Rose Chypree, Souvenir d'un Jardin hasn't lasted out the morning on me, though it was nice while it was there. But the winner so far by a very long mile, is Maroc pour Elle, which was love at first sniff. Looking back to things I've liked recently - notably Samsara and Shem el Nessim, I guess transparent, subtle scents just aren't my thing blush. I'm surprising myself by how much I like woody notes as well.

I still have Rose Vermeille, Carillon pour une Ange and L'Air du Desert Marocain to go - exciting smile

CointreauVersial Sun 27-Jan-13 18:22:37

Ooh, niminy, L'Air du Desert is one of my favourite new discoveries - I wore it yesterday in fact. I tried Une Rose Vermeille, but found it too sweet and jammy, so I'd be interested to know how Une Rose Chypree differs.

Today I tried something absolutely gorgeous - Guerlain Aqua Allegoria Herba Fresca. Green, fresh, minty, an absolute winner for the summer, I am definitely going back for more.

YouOldSlag Sun 27-Jan-13 19:37:29

Can anyone explain why Feminite de Bois smells like um..knickers?

coffeeinbed Sun 27-Jan-13 19:48:13

Not sure.
Apparently the new version is muskier.
Or the cumin in the old one - it can be perceived as a sweaty note.
Which one do you have?

auldspinster Sun 27-Jan-13 20:23:58

I've got the Serge Lutens one and I don't detect knickers, Boudoir on the other hand...

IsabelleRinging Sun 27-Jan-13 21:10:06

Just back from my little whizz around the Manchester shops.

My first stop was Selfridges. i intended to sniff a few of the exclusifs here. I ended up having a lovely consultation with their 'expert'. She was a lovely chinese lady who brought out a little case with bottles of absolute fragrance oils and she picked out the ones I liked best and matched them to the fragrances. Turns out I liked most things but especially amber, vanilla, vetiver, and sandalwood. I began to doubt her expertise a little when she told me vanilla was the root of the orchid (surely it is the seed pod?). Anyway, the upshot was she gave me samples of Coromandel, no22, Cuir du Russie, and Gardenia.

I then had lots of sniffs, here is what I sniffed

Robert Piguet- Thought I was going to love these> I really liked them all in the initial spray and the top notes were lovely, but when they dried they all smelled very similar to me and dare I say quite 'old ladyish'.
Fracas- more complex than I thought it would be, not a simple teuberose fragrance.
Baghari- quite liked this and the man in Harvey nicks found me a sample.
Visa- The opening smelled just like angel to me, but dried down a bit richer and not quite as modern smelling.
Futur- very potent, not for me.
Petit Fracas- too fruity sweet, more modern than the rest.

Amouage Jubilation- really like this and want to try it on skin next time.

Tobacco Vanille- another I would like to try on skin, very sweet but with a smokey edge

Then I went to Kendalls and tried the Annick Goutals. Got some samples too.
Songes- lovely heady floral, seemed overpowering with gardenia/tuberose at first but dried sweeter.
Un Matin d'orage-green floral, watery and cucumbery, not liking initially.
Nuit Etoilee-This was surprisingly nice-quite a fresh opening which seems to dry into sweetish woody fragrance.
Also got samples of Fleur d'oranger and Ambre sultan and sniffed Un Bois De vanille which I think I love!!!!!

Also had a sniff of Creed Love in White- quite a strange one to my nose, linear and quite cold.

Last off this morning was Space NK where I sniffed a few Toccas- all quite watery and floral, didn't really find one that grabbed me- Bridgette seemed the nicest but i think my nose wasn't working very well as I seem to be starting with a head cold today.

Will try my samples out this week when my nose clears and report back.

Just a last though. DH and I both tried out Coromandel last night. On me it was a warm ambery, woody vannila mix with a slight rooty/earthyness to it. It was totally different on him! All he got was pure rooty/earthy/vetiver smell. Does this one have vetiver? The Chanel consultant let me smell pure vetiver and i really smell it in this but it isn't listed, I wonder if it is something else which I am confusing with vetiver? I love this one so far anyway, much nicer on me than DH.

williaminajetfighter Sun 27-Jan-13 21:31:52

Cointreau. Herbs fresca is brilliant. Great summer fragrance and never tire of it. More complex than people give it credit. Guerlain has some lovely fragrances. Very good quality compared to others within department store...

YouOldSlag Sun 27-Jan-13 21:33:10

coffee- I've got the Shiseido one. Worth Courtesan also smells like knickers on me. So much so, I had to wash it off. It was pure sex but not in a good way.

IsabelleRinging Sun 27-Jan-13 21:35:41

blush Sorry for the long rant.

DonaAna Sun 27-Jan-13 22:02:30

Isabelle, what a lovely day and fantastic treats!

I'm very sad to say this but I do not feel at home in S&B any more. There have been too many snarky and hostile threads lately. I'm seriously considering moving over to Basenotes (Female Fragrance Forum). They have a stricter moderation policy. Not sure how others here feel. And I completely understand if you want to continue posting here - the thread is wonderful, worth keeping alive. Feel free to pm me. And am very sad it has come to this.

coffeeinbed Sun 27-Jan-13 22:05:40

Boudoir has viburnum, now that's knickers.
Not sure about Courtesan.
I'll say the cumin.

MrsSchadenfreude Sun 27-Jan-13 22:12:15

Oh no! Dona Ana, don't go! sad The thread will fizzle and become snarky without your expertise.

CointreauVersial Sun 27-Jan-13 23:23:32

Oh DonaAna, you won't get snarky and hostile on this thread! Don't leave us!

I do see what you mean, though (the breton top thread today got a bit snippy).

CointreauVersial Sun 27-Jan-13 23:50:13

And Isabelle, what a brilliant day! envy

YouOldSlag Mon 28-Jan-13 09:31:50

DonaAna-please just leave the threads that upset you, don't leave MN. Your advice and musings have been invaluable and these perfume threads have been so friendly and warm.

There are always shit stirrers who seem to get a kick out of throwing a stink bomb into a friendly atmosphere. I too have had clashes with a certain poster who does that and it feels quite aggressive at times. I even left Mumsnet a few years ago as I was absolutely trounced in a thread and it hurt more than I care to admit. I was really shocked at how cruel and rude people can be.

However I came back with a new name and was much stronger, walking away when things got heated and feeling encouraged when people said "I agree with Slag". Its been a lifeline since I learned how to dodge the vipers.
Don't give up on us. Your input has taught me more than you realise!

gatheringlilac Mon 28-Jan-13 10:30:17

Hello, I'm de-lurking prompted by DonaAna's post. Don't let the snarkers win.

I was savaged in "Chat" a while ago. I posted asking for information and unfortunately had the misfortune to receive a great deal of abuse from posters I can only assume were drunk. <shrug> Or getting rid of frustrations by posting venomously on the internet.

I received a lot of p.m.s answering my query and apologising for the overt behaviour on my thread. It was very strange. Clearly, a lot of mn-ers were too frightened to post openly.

I cannot convey to you how innocuous my enquiry was without giving my RL issue away!! But it was dullsville.

I now stay mainly in "Style and Beauty", reading this thread, actually.

Has the snarkiness now infected S and B?

I've loved reading the contributions on this thread. I'm an Iris lover - in pretty much all its incarnations - myself, with occasionally sorties into tuberose and chypres. But I love reading everyone's descriptions of their encounters with perfumes. This thread is a very happy, interesting place to be!

Anyway, D.A., what a pain you've experienced a bad case of nettle rash. If this dose of T.C.P. isn't enough to make things better, I'll just take the chance of saying how nice it's been to "read/meet" you on here.

And all the rest of you. smile

niminypiminy Mon 28-Jan-13 10:50:33

Agree so much with these posts - this thread is lovely, and long may it stay that way.

Anyway I am trying my sample of Rose Vermeille today. It's very odd, close to it's rosy, but every so often, and from from a few inches away from my wrist, I get whiffs of jam -- which, oddly, I'm really liking. When I lived in north London, on a street lined with Greek and Turkish shops, I used to be most addicted to rose-petal jam - clear, with rose petals in, and incredibly fragrant. I've never come across it since. it reminds me a bit of that.

Fuzzybirds Mon 28-Jan-13 10:54:02

Hello, another lurker here!
I had to post to agree with the others- this thread is amazing and DonaAna has inspired me to try so many beautiful fragrances I had never even heard of before. I've spent the last five or so years only wearing Coco Mademoiselle on special occasions... today however I am wafting around in L'artisan's Nuit de Tubereuse grin Please don't go DonaAna.

Isabelle, I also had a wonderful smelling day on Saturday in London on a rare day out to the big smoke <country bumpkin> my wallet is somewhat lighter now, but I smell gorgeous!

Haberdashery Mon 28-Jan-13 11:54:29

Please don't go, DonaAna. Any message board can get difficult at times but if you stick to the nice threads, there's no need to be upset by idiots. We would all really really miss you.

CointreauVersial Mon 28-Jan-13 13:18:43

Ooh, gatheringlilac, until recently I wouldn't have recognised iris if it punched me on the nose, but today I'm trying Le Labo Iris 39, and it's gorgeous. Cool and warm at the same time, if that makes any sense, and not at all cloying. What's your fave iris?

Niminy - yes, rose petal jam. But too sugary for me.

coffeeinbed Mon 28-Jan-13 17:50:31

Cointreau, glad to see you like Iris 39. I love it.

I tried their Ambrette yesterday - funny, could not smell a thing.
I remember wearing Ce sour ou Jamais, which has rose and Ambrette.
But the Labo - nothing, I may as well have sprayed water on.

coffeeinbed Mon 28-Jan-13 17:51:42

Sorry, typing on phone.

MrsSchadenfreude Mon 28-Jan-13 17:54:09

I tried Jicky yesterday, which I liked, although it did have that sweaty knickers whiff to it. Today I tried Eau des Merveilles, which I thought was very dull, and had a quick squirt of Bronze Goddess which doesn't do it for me either.

Will no-one try Ivoire and love it with me? How about you, CV, we seem to have similar taste in perfume?

AwkwardSquad Mon 28-Jan-13 18:07:08

Hello, lurker and occasional poster from previous thread. Still haven't got round to ordering my samples but I will - I've promised myself.

I had the opportunity today to have a sniff at some of the Amouage range. My, they were interesting and powerful. I'd have liked to have tried one on, but was already wearing something. I liked the men's ones better than the women's I think. The Opus (might have misremembered that) were particularly intriguing. The ones I tried were very dry - on the tester card, anyway. One was smoke and tar and something else almost medicinal. It was great fun.

kiwigirl42 Mon 28-Jan-13 18:12:49

so glad to see someone else loves Louve. I do adore it so.
I've not been too well so that is mostly all I've been wearing but I'm interested to try Rose Vermeille as it sounds lovely. There is a bottle of Shalimar Ode de Vanille sur le route de Madagascar (phew!) for sale on ebay. I really, really want it! Supposed to a very vanilla focused version of Shalimar. The last 'Ode' was more leathery I think.

Let us know if you start a basenotes thread Dona and we'll join you

CointreauVersial Mon 28-Jan-13 18:41:03

MrsS, I find I don't like Jicky for the first 20 minutes or so, but then the sweaty knicker whiff seems to die away and it gets a lot nicer. I don't love it, though.

Ivoire is irredeemably linked to my stepmum, but I just noticed it relaunched recently. May be worth a try, seeing as you recommend it so highly!

MrsSchadenfreude Mon 28-Jan-13 19:06:17

I haven't tried the relaunched one, CV, just the old version (which I shall stock up on as I don't suppose I will be able to get it soon).

I didn't "love" Jicky either, but I thought it was pleasant enough. I do love "Vol de Nuit" by Guerlain - both the scent and the name, though. I quite like L'Heure Bleue, but don't love it. I loathe Samsara with a passion. I do love my Coromandel, and it seems to be going down at a rate of knots. The only two perfumes that people have commented on when I wear them are Coromandel and Chanel No 22. I wasn't that struck by any of the other "Exclusifs" - I did like Sycomore, but most of the others left me cold.

allpassionspent Mon 28-Jan-13 19:07:33

Hot news from the Smelly Anoraks' Corner - if anyone's enjoyed Luca Turin's books on scent and his contraversial theory of smell, apparently there's a programme about it on the BBC World Service at 19:32 GMT tonight. (It will be re-broadcast throughout the week, or you can download the podcast)

YouOldSlag Mon 28-Jan-13 19:14:03

I couldn't get on with Jicky. I tried hard to like it, but it did nothing for me. It was lemons, lavendar, then pants and herbs.

I tried three times and just got nothing from it.

Louve was too cherries and chocolate for me. Mrs S: I loathe Samsara too, but like Coromandel. Not keen on L'Heure Bleu- too much like Jicky.

williaminajetfighter Mon 28-Jan-13 19:27:41

Bleuch Jicky! Some classics make a comeback, others belong to be left in the past! But that's just me.

Re: the earlier post about Le Labo Ambrette. I read somewhere that Ambrette was meant to be 'perfume for babies' and for that reason really quite light. I think it's just pear and not much else. TBH it's quite expensive for something that doesn't last. I think that Annick Goutal's Petite Cherie is probably the most similar perfume, but a lot stronger. Other Le Labo's are lovely. Labdanum is quite nice.

I am making my way through the samples I received that I never used because I was so 'meh' about them. Today twas Calypso Mimosa. SLightly dull summer scent. I've got loads of Amouage's that I'm trying to get through and although they are much-lauded I'm not so sure. Just tried Interlude Woman and it's making me sneeze!

williaminajetfighter Mon 28-Jan-13 19:28:38

BTW Has anyone tried Keiko's Loukhoum? Trying to get some views on it...

FannyBrawne Mon 28-Jan-13 19:39:39

Dona Ana

Have been wating to send this message all day (prevented due to log in problems).

I too am a lurker....have just recently discovered your pearls of wisdom on these perfume threads (and about to start dipping my toes into "niche" sample terrritory as a direct result).

PLEASE do not leave - you give so much pleasure to everyone on this thread- I really mean that.

coffeeinbed Mon 28-Jan-13 19:58:11

William, KM Loukhoum is probably the sweetest - literally - thing I've ever smelt.
Too much.

coffeeinbed Mon 28-Jan-13 20:04:04

I few days ago I smelt Mitsouko on someone in the tube.
I know it's an amazing example of perfumery and I can appreciate it for what it is, but it was a bit, I don't know, too out there.
It felt out of place.
I think I'm definitely falling out of love with the big classics.

CointreauVersial Mon 28-Jan-13 20:07:47

I agree, coffee. Definitely prefer the more contemporary fragrances.

CointreauVersial Mon 28-Jan-13 20:12:42

allpassion - I heard that vibrating molecule story on the news today, but didn't realise it was Luca Turin involved. I have a scientific background, so found the link very interesting - thanks.

Haberdashery Mon 28-Jan-13 20:25:13

>> One was smoke and tar and something else almost medicinal.

I would absolutely love to know which this one is if you can remember, Awkward. I am a smoke and tar fanatic.

niminypiminy Mon 28-Jan-13 20:28:18

Hah! Have just sent off for a full bottle of Samsara <grins evilly> I think I am swimming against the tide here ... I only really like big classics (though I may make an exception for Le Maroc Pour Elle).

MrsSchadenfreude Mon 28-Jan-13 20:30:44

<holds nose> grin

florascotia Mon 28-Jan-13 20:31:03

Oh Dona Ana
Am so sorry to hear that you might go. Obviously, you must do what you think best, but, before you go away, I would like you and 'Slag' and many other posters to know how interesting and comforting you have been to me - and, I suspect, to many others.
I have been ill on and off since Christmas. Reading the perfumista blog has been a great diversion and pleasure. When other bits of me have seemed to be falling apart (now thankfully getting better) , the sense of smell has continued...

Stupid question, because you are not in the UK. But did you hear the chap on the Today Programme this morning talk about how smell was our 'primeval sense'? His comment was part of an item talking about the molecular mechanics of how we detect smells. Very interesting. The 'primeval' bit rang rather true. Suggests why we all find perfumes so important.

Whenever/wherever you go, all the best ...

allpassionspent Mon 28-Jan-13 20:51:44

Cointreau - thank you. I'm pleased you found it interesting.
Can I add to the praise for this thread? It's so interesting and people are so helpful. I've learned so much (and spent so much!) I didn't know about buying decants and now have a fabulous collection of samples. Thank you ladies (and gents?) and a special thanks to the wonderful Dona Ana. If you do go, you will be sorely missed.

AwkwardSquad Mon 28-Jan-13 20:54:19

Hi Haberdashery, I'm pretty sure it was one of the Library Collection, but I can't recall which number Opus! I'll have a bit more of a dig on Google and see if I can narrow it down. It was all amazing stuff, like bottled decadence. Lovely woman in the shop, letting me sniff them all and explaining what was in each.

AwkwardSquad Mon 28-Jan-13 21:05:30

It may have been Opus IV.

Haberdashery Mon 28-Jan-13 21:09:50

Thanks so much, Awkward. I appreciate it. I will have a look and see if I can find a sample. Where did you smell them?

AwkwardSquad Mon 28-Jan-13 21:31:01

Interlude Man came up in the search results as having smoky and birch tar notes - might be worth a look, too.

AwkwardSquad Mon 28-Jan-13 21:33:46

Sorry, just saw the shop question! I was in an independent department store in Harrogate called Hoopers. They had a lot of Creed as well but I didn't get round to trying them. Is Creed is worth a try? What do folk think of it?

Haberdashery Mon 28-Jan-13 21:39:20

I've tried a couple of Creeds but can't think what just now. I think Green Irish Tweed was one of them. I don't think I was massively impressed, tbh.

Thanks for the Interlude Man tip, too.

aJumpedUpPantryBoy Mon 28-Jan-13 22:24:23

DonaAna, you will be sorely missed if you leave.
I have learnt so much from reading your posts

coffeeinbed Mon 28-Jan-13 22:29:06

There was Angelique Encens.
It was flowers, green top and incense. Beautiful.
Gone now.
Also Fleur Du Thé Rose Bulgare.
Beautiful radiant rose, a bit Eighties though. Lovely if you like lots of roses, but very fresh and green.

Fuzzybirds Tue 29-Jan-13 09:48:39

Niminypiminy you are not alone! I'm a Samsara lover too, it's on my wishlist. I tried Chamade on Saturday and loved it too, yet another one on the list.

Today I'm wearing a L'Artisan freebie sample, mure et musc. I'm a bit underwhelmed with's only been on an hour and a half and has nearly gone. Just getting a slight whiff of sharpish berries and basil now.

williaminajetfighter Tue 29-Jan-13 10:36:33

Fuzzy. I was wearing Mur and musc the other day. A bit meh... Certainly NOT long lasting.

I'm also a bit meh about Creed perfumes. All smell the same to me.

YouOldSlag Tue 29-Jan-13 10:52:16

I'm wearing Fracas today. Wayyyy too sweet and sickly. I find Tuberose almost medicinal smelling sometimes, especially here. I so wanted to like it, but I don't.

Haberdashery Tue 29-Jan-13 12:02:05

Knize Ten today again. The parma violet note is making me crave silly sweets. I may have to go on a search for parma violets and pink shrimps.

CointreauVersial Tue 29-Jan-13 12:58:14

Ooo, Fracas was way too much for me too. I've decided I really don't like tuberose.

I'm trying my sample of Ambre Sultan today. Very incensey and herbal at the start, now much softer with some vanilla notes coming through. Lovely.

Anyway <nerd alert> I'm planning a spreadsheet.

I shall rank all my new samples as Scrubber/Meh/Wear Again/Lovely/Buy More Now grin

shoeprincess2 Tue 29-Jan-13 13:07:48

CV- a spreadsheet is a cracking idea. I loved Fracas, but love Tubereuse Criminelle, which started this whole thread off! I like in your face scents (the ying to my personalisty yang), or something like that. I haven't posted in a while- been a bit potty at shoe towers, with DP away for 2 nights and 4 month old developing bronchiolitis. Gah.

Been nice reading the thread though, but sad news that DonaAna has decided to post no more on here sad. She has been an absolute marvel- I am in awe of her vast perfume knowledge and eloquence when describing fragrances. That said, I understand why she would want a break from MN- some of the snippiness on threads is totally uncalled for!!

I love Ambre Sultan too. I am currently wearing Une Rose Vermeille- I quite like it. Interested to see what Une Rose Chypree is like. Haven't ordered a sample yet. Not sure about knize 10 now. i have it on my list of sample to buy, but the idea of parma violets is putting me off.

Haberdashery Tue 29-Jan-13 13:07:56

Ambre Sultan sounds gorgeous.

I have considered a spreadsheet more than once but haven't got round to it, so I think that probably makes me a lazy nerd.

Haberdashery Tue 29-Jan-13 13:09:21

I don't know if it's just me, shoe. I haven't seen parma violets mentioned by anyone else at all. Maybe some weird skin chemistry thing?

Fuzzybirds Tue 29-Jan-13 13:24:20

Well I slapped on a bit more of Mure et Musc but it's gone again...way too subtle for me I think! Love the sound of Fracas and Knize Ten, I do love a scent that hits me like a sledgehammer grin

There are a few little mini bottles of Fracas pure parfum doing the rounds on ebay at the mo for very reasonable prices, I'm tempted but worried I might set off an uncontrollable stink bomb!

On the subject of ebay bargains, has anyone tried Caron's Montaigne? I've had my eye on a bottle at only £7.99, all above board business seller etc. and most reviews on basenotes are good....just think there must be a catch at that price!

YouOldSlag Tue 29-Jan-13 13:24:43

Agree shoe- Dona Ana will be a massive loss to the thread. I think I know what kind of snarking she was on about from another thread and it was uncalled for. S and B is a peaceful non argumentative forum and when people come on spoiling for a fight, it's really sad.

CV- I definitely have a list of scrubbers! Halston Catalyst, Ghost Sweetheart, Angel (sorry Angel fans), Poison...

shoeprincess2 Tue 29-Jan-13 13:57:56

YouOldSlag- I saw the breton stripe top thread... sad.

Anyway, I hope this thread keeps going because it is a fantastic fragrant journey for everyone. We all have our loves and hates and I don't think anyone on here judges. Long may we continue!

Haberdashery Tue 29-Jan-13 14:14:55

Am scared to look for the breton top thread now, but tempted just so I know what you're on about. What on earth could be so controversial about a stripy cotton top?

shoeprincess2 Tue 29-Jan-13 14:19:21

Quite. I read it because I wanted to know what had been said. I was quite appalled. Anyway, I won't drag down the mood of this thread, as we're all lovely and I, for one, love it as an escape from sickly children, tantrumming toddlers etc.

YouOldSlag Tue 29-Jan-13 16:24:01

It was just someone who wanted a rant and instead of going on AIBU for one, barged into peaceful S and B and was very mocking and sarcastic. Without any need to be.

It was like kicking a football into a flower bed. S and B is peaceful and non confrontational and some bitter idiot had to spoil it and make fun of it.

clb Tue 29-Jan-13 17:24:40

Shared feelings of sadness about Dona Ana here - I've not posted here before but have learned so much, and been so inspired by, her posts. I adored her recommendations of Annick Goutal's Ninféo Mio and Tauer's L'air du désert Marocain.

Went into Selfridge's today for a smell of some Serge Lutens (too early for Les Senteurs close by to be open, or I'd have tried that). Very nice SA sprayed several things for me and talked me through them - I particularly loved Fleurs d'Oranger and put some of that on my wrists, hoping DH will tolerate it. Infuriatingly, he hated L'Artisan's Seville à l'Aube, which made me feel really happy and of which I was planning to buy a FB.

So I've come home with paper sticks sprayed with Serge Noire, which is sweet wood + incense: like it a lot; Jeux de Peau - far too reminiscent of popcorn; Arabie - very Christmassy, with a lot of dried prunes and figs: delicious.

And had already tried a few at House of Fraser - Feminité du Bois (loved but possibly the drydown is less attractive than that of Chergui), À la nuit (overwhelming, overpowering jasmine, still far too strong five hours later), Sa Majesté la Rose (very rich rose with good longevity), Chergui (lovely warm amber drydown) and Un Bois Vanille (far, far too much like candyfloss).

The SA said that there'll be a new Lutens rose in at the end of February, accompanied with a lot of new samples...

Haberdashery Tue 29-Jan-13 18:43:13

Ooh, love the sound of both Serge Noire and Arabie.

Haberdashery Tue 29-Jan-13 18:43:56

And maybe everyone should PM Dona and tell her how much we miss her?

Haberdashery Tue 29-Jan-13 18:51:49

God, I'm such a bird brain. I forgot what I came here to say. I bought myself a lovely scented candle today so I came to recommend the brand. It was Papillon Rouge and it smells amazing. So many scented candles are a bit, well, not very scented at all.

aJumpedUpPantryBoy Tue 29-Jan-13 19:11:23

Thank you Habadashery - I spent ages recently trying to find that brand - i had a candle from them as a gift and it was lovely.
For some reason I had remembered the name as 'Little Red Bird' candles, which, of course wasn't bringing up any results

MrsSchadenfreude Tue 29-Jan-13 20:21:46

I don't particularly like any of Serge Lutens perfumes. I wore Eau d'Ivoire today - a shadow of Ivoire, but less dirty knickers-y, and very long lasting. It's the acceptable face of Ivoire.

Many years ago I used to wear Lanvin's "My Sin" which was probably much too adult for me, but it contrasted nicely with Jovan's "Sex Appeal for Women" which I wore as a 17 year old too. I don't think you can get "My Sin" any more, but I would like to smell it again.

coffeeinbed Tue 29-Jan-13 20:24:33

Bal a Versaiiles is dirty knicker-y .
Just saying, so you can try/avoid (delete as applicable)

Haberdashery Tue 29-Jan-13 20:55:45

Glad to be of service, Pantry! I am very favourably impressed with how lovely and lasting the fragrance is on this candle. It's Orange Benzoin and very warm-smelling and spicy. I think the rain made me buy it. I quite wanted the cut grass one, too, which was amazingly sharp. If anyone lives near Kew/Richmond, they're £22 reduced from £34 in Mia Wood in Kew at the moment. They had quite a selection of them - quite big candles in an attractive glass jar thing.

clb Tue 29-Jan-13 22:28:01

And on candles: currently in residence here are Diptyque's Figuier and Mad et Len's Terre Noire. Sharply contrasting and both strongly recommended.

IsabelleRinging Wed 30-Jan-13 08:02:06

Very frustrated here, really want to try my samples but have a nasty cold and can't smell or taste a thing!

My soon to be 70 mum rang today, she has asked me to get he lancome's La Vie est Belle, not sure what to think about that really hmm.

kiwigirl42 Wed 30-Jan-13 08:25:24

thanks for that website shoe I'm really interested in The Scent of Departure perfumes. Anyone tried them?

kiwigirl42 Wed 30-Jan-13 08:27:57

williaminajetfighter Loukhoum has a really weird plasticky note which I find also in some other very sweet gourmands.

YouOldSlag Wed 30-Jan-13 08:30:11

coffe- thanks for the warning about Bal a Versailles. I hate the dirty knicker smells and I got that from Shiseido's Feminite du bois and also Worth's Courtesan. They smell awful on me- really like an unwashed gusset!

Isabelle, La Vie est Belle isn't bad but it's too praline/caramel for my taste. It's quite a pretty scent though. It's been well received and Dona Ana liked it- so it must be good. I miss her already.

Fuzzybirds Wed 30-Jan-13 10:59:02

Kiwi, just had a look at The Scent of Departure range and am very intrigued. Not many reviews on fragrantica yet though.

I'm testing the last of my L'Artisan samples today- Coeur de Vetiver Sacre. I like this one, it's like smelling lovely aromatic tea with a bit of woodiness and smokiness and some other things my unsophisticated nose can't make out. Another very subtle one though, perhaps better suited to spring/ summer.

Bal a Versailles and Boudoir are on my 'to try' list but I'm a bit wary of testing them in public. If I end up smelling like old pants I'd rather do so in the privacy of my own home grin

shoeprincess2 Wed 30-Jan-13 11:21:16

Boudoir is filthy grin. I was in the Vivienne Westwood shop, as my friend was buying one of the necklaces (quite nice actually and reasonably priced). I had a squirt of it, but it really is too cumin-y and sweaty for my liking. That said, my friend kept getting wafts of it and absolutely loved it. So, maybe you can test in public as maybe it doesn't smell sweaty to others!

IsabelleRinging Wed 30-Jan-13 13:31:38

Boudoir is one of my favourites. It will certainly get you noticed and men love it. I used to wear it to go out in when it first came out and I never had so many men ask me what perfume I was wearing. I think Portrait of a Lady is in the same family and I love that too. You won't smell like pants grin, they just have a subtle muskiness to them.

La Vie Est Belle is nice, just not sure I can imagine it on my normally Youth Dew wearing mum, it strikes me as a 'young' fragrance. If she likes it though I don't suppose it matters. Kind of ironic if she wore it while I wear my L'heure Bleu.

Fuzzybirds Wed 30-Jan-13 14:09:17

You've both convinced me now, I shall hunt out some Boudoir this weekend. I'll be interested to see what dh thinks of it, the only perfume he really takes notice of on me is Coco and everything else is just 'nice'

I love all the perfumes my Mum used to wear, I suppose as they remind me of childhood and growing up- especially Paris and Ysatis. Kudos to your Mum for trying something new though, mine has stuck with Pleasures for years!

IsabelleRinging Wed 30-Jan-13 16:25:31

My nose has cleared a little bit this afternoon so I sprayed a little Coromandel sample on my wrists. OMG I think I love this perfume. Even with my cold I can smell it wafting up to my nose, it is so warm and ambery fuzzy smelling but it has that dirty/earthy quality (patchouli?) which stops it being too gourmand and sickly and gives it a little edgyness. I can see this one making to my 'buy a full bottle' list.

Viviennemary Wed 30-Jan-13 16:40:29

I've just bought a bottle of Apres l'Ondee. It was expensive but I'm not usually extravagant. Quite a few places had sold out. Haven't read all the perfume threads so I hope it isn't going to be discontinued. I got some testers of Jo Malone too. I liked the Orange Blossom and the Jasmine and Mint. This thread is making me want to buy lots of perfume!

YouOldSlag Wed 30-Jan-13 17:03:28

I doubt they'll discontinue Apres L'Ondee. It's been around since 1906. I found it quite cold and melancholy, but whatever I think, you've got yourself a Classic there.

clb Wed 30-Jan-13 17:08:55

Yes, IsabelleRinging, I loved the Coromandel I tried yesterday so much that I ordered a sample from The Perfumed Court this morning (+ one of Bois des Iles).

And some Serge Lutens samples from Les Senteurs, too.

I can still smell the L'air du désert marocain I put on after my shower last night. Incredible longevity and such warmth.

CointreauVersial Wed 30-Jan-13 17:09:37

Fuzzy, I'm having a Coromandel day today too. It was the last of my sample, but I've already splashed out on a 10ml decant, so no worries (too tight to buy a whole bottle).

I have a sample of Bal a Versailles which I too tried on a rainy Sunday when I wasn't planning to leave the house.grin It was nicer than I expected, and DH quite liked it, although he recoiled slightly at first. It is very classy and definitely one to try.

CointreauVersial Wed 30-Jan-13 17:10:30

Not fuzzy, isabelle!

coffeeinbed Wed 30-Jan-13 18:12:41

I've let you all down today.
I didn't put any perfume on.
in my defence it was 6:50 in the morning.

niminypiminy Wed 30-Jan-13 18:15:57

Viviennemary Après L'Ondee is wonderful - I'm wearing it now - I think it's such a beautiful smell. I love it so much that sometimes I wonder if I should get a second bottle in case it is discontinued (there are rumours around about this happening), and it is very hard to get hold of. Also I find that I use quite a lot of it so even a 100ml bottle (which is what I have) won't last forever. But so, so beautiful - worth every penny in my book.

YouOldSlag Wed 30-Jan-13 18:23:55

Whaaaat??? discontinuing Apres L'Ondee??? I simply can't believe it. There'll be another revolution in Paris.

Viviennemary Wed 30-Jan-13 18:59:55

I thought about getting another bottle too. But I did try to find out if it was being discontinued. It has been in the USA apparently. If it's been around since 1906 trust me just to have discovered it now! It is lovely though. I just have to keep spraying a little bit more on and I only got it this morning. I quite like the sound of L'Heure Bleue as well. But must wait a respectable amount of time before splashing out again.

coffeeinbed Wed 30-Jan-13 19:09:16

Well, they did discontinue the perfume, so who knows..
there was a write up in Red Mag today about Frederic Malle's five favourite fragrances - Apres L'Ondee is one - he calls it his "happy perfume".

Viviennemary Wed 30-Jan-13 20:26:30

What were the others coffee?

coffeeinbed Wed 30-Jan-13 20:47:01

Dries van Noter for Frederic Malle - his new one.
Mitsouko - his favourite classic

also the smell of Casablanca Lily
and Cafe Society Candle - the best - according to him - candle.
That was his five favourite smells.
A bit biased, but it's understandable.

YouOldSlag Wed 30-Jan-13 21:24:07

I heard Karl Lagerfeld wore Apres L'Ondee. I can imagine it smelling pretty good on a man.

niminypiminy Wed 30-Jan-13 21:44:24

Oh no! Karl Lagerfeld cannot be my smelly-likey! He's far too creepy!

YouOldSlag Wed 30-Jan-13 22:02:51

He's just wearing it to be difficult! I expect he's a right little madam in RL.

niminypiminy Thu 31-Jan-13 07:14:23

I'm sure he is. At least if KL wears it then Guerlain are unlikely to discontinue après l'Ondee -- can you imagine the huge fashion his hissy fit?

Fuzzybirds Thu 31-Jan-13 10:25:44

I feel like I need to try Apres L'Ondee again, really thought I would love it as violets are one of my favourite flower smells but I couldn't make up my mind about it. I tested it on my first ever visit to Harrods and think maybe I had a bit of a sensory overload <sheltered upbringing>

I keep meaning to pop into Lush and try out Tuca Tuca in case it's the violet scent I've been after..

coffeeinbed Thu 31-Jan-13 10:49:14

What type of violet are you after Fuzzy?

Fuzzybirds Thu 31-Jan-13 11:23:10

Coffee I think something fairly true to the natural scent of violets, a little bit of sweetness but not too sweet, if that makes any sense! I do like Insolence but it's a tad on the sweet side. I haven't so far got on with anything involving Iris, so maybe that's what stops me loving Apres L'Ondee.

Viviennemary Thu 31-Jan-13 11:46:55

Thanks coffee. I've old heard of Mistouko out of those.

Viviennemary Thu 31-Jan-13 11:47:26


gatheringlilac Thu 31-Jan-13 12:15:08

Fuzzybirds, have you tried the Berdoues Violets that MArks and Spencer is now carrying? There's a thread here with comments on the perfumes, as well as suggestions for other violet scents.

coffeeinbed, thank you for extending a welcome smile, my favourite Iris is the Hermes Hiris (I have a feeling we've chatted about that elsewhere). Oddly enough, I had a sample of Rose 31 (Le Labo) and thought that was quite "iris-y" but I don't think it has any iris in it at all. So what do I know!!!

I'm shocked, shocked, shocked about this report of Apres L'Ondee being discontinued!!!!

My dears, does anyone know where I could procure a sample of Lutens' Iris Silver Mist? I caught mention of websites where samples and decants are available but failed to take proper note.

And many apologies for the missing accents and speech marks: am fretting about a trip to buy children's mittens before school pick-up.

CointreauVersial Thu 31-Jan-13 13:19:17

Haberdashery - you're smoke lover - have a look at the review on this blog for The Voice of Reason by Gorilla Perfumes (part of Lush - who knew?). Described as "leather, smoked ham, cigarette ash, barbecue sauce and rum".

Not sure if I want to smell like that, but I would imagine it's not expensive.

I'm trying Timbuktu again. Stil meh. <updates spreadsheet>

IsabelleRinging Thu 31-Jan-13 13:47:43

I can just about smell again so I am trying Ambre Sultan today. I am enjoying some aspects it, it is quite spicy, lots of amber, and the woody/sandalwood is really nice. I think it would have to be a bit more floral for me to want to wear it more though as I find it a little too unisex/masculine for my style. It is nice though, and I would like to smell it on someone else, just not for me. DH gave it a little spray but it was too feminine for him.

Has anyone Datura Noir by Lutens? as that sounds more up my street from the descriptions. Is it really a bit like Hypnotic Poison?

Last night I also had a little spray of my Baghari tester on one arm and Cuir de Russie on the other.

Baghari is described as an oriental, but to me it has a lot of aldehydes, some say it is like Chanel no5, and I can see why, but it is not quite the same. It has quite sharp top notes and a powdery dry down, vintage feeling, almost like Chanel 22 I think, although 22 is nicer. I don't like Baghari, it's just not me.

Cuir de Russie is VERY leathery at first, but as it dries there are more floral notes and a little bit of spice and wood. It is quite soft and feminine, despite the leather. I really enjoyed this one and I would really like a leather scent for winter and would like to try it next to Tuscan Leather to compare (LOOOVEEEE TL). I could still smell this on my arm this morning, but the Baghari had gone.

Haberdashery Thu 31-Jan-13 13:48:32

Blimey, that sounds nuts interesting! I will certainly have a sniff next time I pass Lush. I'm not convinced I want to smell like ham but you never know, it might be amazing!

Haberdashery Thu 31-Jan-13 13:48:58

Sorry, that was to Cointreau!

Fuzzybirds Thu 31-Jan-13 13:55:52

Thank you gatheringlilac, love the look and sound of the Berdoues fragrances. I'm actually wearing an M&S one today, vanille chocolat from Les Senteurs Gourmandes, very Angel-ish with a touch of Palmers Cocoa Butter grin I can't wear it very often as it makes me want to raid the dc's chocolate stash.

There is one seller on ebay doing samples of Iris Silver Mist, £4.50 plus P&P smile

shoeprincess2 Thu 31-Jan-13 14:03:11

Aaaah yes, The Voice of Reason. It was a grey Sunday and I popped into Lush and got chatting to a nice young man about perfumes. He recommended that I try it, being a smke lover. OH MY GOODNESS!! I smelt like a barbecue all day and not in a good way. Burnt meat and HP sauce. It was vile, and I normally go for big fragrances. Try at your peril smile

Haberdashery Thu 31-Jan-13 14:06:28

Oh. That doesn't sound good! Still, I might have a sniff on a tester strip rather than on me!

YouOldSlag Thu 31-Jan-13 14:07:01

Isabelle, I LOATHED Ambre Sultan. it made me feel sick. It smells like weed!

shoeprincess2 Thu 31-Jan-13 14:11:37

Yes Habers- a tester strip is wise. I half expected an exclusion zone to be set up around me!! Would definitely like to try Tuscan Leather and Cuir de Russie. Some more for my sampling list. Full of a cold today, so I am sans perfume. I can't smell or taste a thing.

IsabelleRinging Thu 31-Jan-13 14:28:17

They gave me the sample of Cuir de Russie at Selfridges in Manchester quite readily. Thanks for the tips about kendals also shoe, the SA in there virtually threw samples at me, I didn't even have to ask!

I think I like Tuscan leather more than Cuir de russie it is warmer, a bit sweeter and not as obviously leather as CdeR.

Not getting weed from Ambre Sultan, it's just too spicy I think. it seems to have good longevity and a bit of silage- I can smell myself at least.

shoeprincess2 Thu 31-Jan-13 14:30:20

Excellent. Glad to hear they were generous with the samples. Roll on my trip in a few months!

coffeeinbed Thu 31-Jan-13 16:47:15

I once got the loveliest sample of Beige in Selfridges - a little replica bottle. Too bad I didn't like it - too boring. grin

Gatheringlilac, I remember that Hiris conversation. Always happy to see someone else who loves it.

I though Frederic Malle's favourite smells were a bit of a exercise in evasion - two were classics, one is not out yet.

Fuzzy, have you tried Balenciaga - the first one, it's a green violet.
L'Artisan have Verte Violette and Annick Goutal has a Violet soliflore, and theirs are usually quite true to the plant.

auldspinster Thu 31-Jan-13 19:32:21

Was having a mooch round Jenners and Harvey Nicks today sniffing a few Tom Fords - now want Tuscan Leather and Tobacco Vanille. I've got a few leathery ones already - Cuir de Lancome; Bandit and Jolie Madame. I've got a bottle of Apres le Ondee but it's really not me, ought to ebay it. I have Bal al Versaillies (sp?), don't get dirt off it.

auldspinster Thu 31-Jan-13 19:37:32

Apres l'ondee even. I think I impressed the Guerlain SA when I told her I had Mouchoir de Monsieur (like Jicky but even more so).

Fuzzybirds Thu 31-Jan-13 19:45:33

Thanks coffee, will look out for Balenciaga this weekend. I live in the arse end of nowhere so probably unlikely I'll find any Goutals or L'Artisans but I'll add them to my next sample list smile

CointreauVersial Thu 31-Jan-13 23:12:54

Booooo! Just had an email from Surrender to Chance to say they are massively increasing their international postage. Well, it was an absolute steal.

I was about to place another order, but I thinking I'll be looking somewhere else from now on.

Haberdashery Fri 01-Feb-13 09:27:34

I just had that email too. So annoying. Where else is good in the UK apart from Scents and Sensibility? They are great but the selection is fairly limited. I wanted to get some Serge Lutens samples and they don't seem to have anything of those. I have ordered from Les Senteurs in the past but I much prefer to get a small spray rather than one of those little stopper bottles as I invariably drip my precious sample all over my fingers and Les Senteurs only seem to do stoppers. Plus they don't label the samples so it's easy to get them mixed up.

clb Fri 01-Feb-13 11:21:06

Not UK, but in Germany, so shipping's only 5 EU, is First in Fragrance. They've got a big niche range and do little spray bottles which are properly labelled. No Lutens, though. I'm in the process of putting together a samples order of Tauer, Parfums d'Empire, État Libre d'Orange, Olfactive Studio and L'Artisan.

Dona Ana recommended somewhere in Italy, too, but I can't remember where. sad

I wish Les Senteurs did spray bottles, too.

Haberdashery Fri 01-Feb-13 12:40:54

I'll have to look up DonaAna's posts and see if I can find it. Thanks for the First in Fragrance tip, clb.

IsabelleRinging Sat 02-Feb-13 11:19:30

Morning everyone. I have been trying out Fleur D'oranger from Lutens. It smells exactly as I thought it would from the description, mainly just pure orange blossom, quite fresh, and very slightly green but unmistakeable heady orange flower. I Have Elie Saab which I have worn a lot over the last year or so, that too has lots of orange blossom and I think I am just bored of it at the moment as the Lutens one doesn't make me want to wear it again, which is just as well as I used all of the tiny sample.

Viviennemary Sat 02-Feb-13 13:15:54

I've got a small sample bottle of Jo Malone Orange blossom which is quite nice. But not sure I'd want a large bottle of it. Also got a tiny bottle of Blue Agava and Cacoa bath oil also by JM. That's quite strong but I like it. Not sure what the perfume itself would be like. A bit too strong I think. The Apres l'ondee has spoilt me for everything else now it seems. grin

clb Sat 02-Feb-13 13:34:14

Snap: I've been trying a sample of SL Fleurs d'Oranger today, too. Quite liking it: I've got lots of tuberose as well as the orange blossom, and I don't find it too overwhelmingly sweet. I didn't spot the cumin which is allegedly in there, but I'm about to reapply and may be able to detect the finer points better when I'm not making ribollita, as I have been this morning. Sillage quite impressive; longevity less so, though the dry down is very pleasant.

Fuzzybirds Sat 02-Feb-13 17:19:34

I tried Boudoir today, I like it a lot, might have to treat myself to a mini. Also tried Hermes L'Ambre des Merveilles but although I generally love Amber, I found this one very sweet and after a while it reminded me very much of Flowerbomb. No joy on finding Balenciaga or any of the other violet scents I want to try so the search continues!

AwkwardSquad Sat 02-Feb-13 19:12:18

I had another little play today. I tried Chanel Sycomor on a tester card - lovely. Tried it on the back of my hand - hideous after about half an hour, sickly sweet. A bit like orange flavoured boiled sweets. I have a sample of Coromandel so I'll try that tomorrow. I also tried Miller Harris L'air du Rien, that turned into rather harsh cinnamon and talc on me. Quite odd. Not good. Tom Ford Tuscan Leather - I wasn't sure to begin with but it is developing and softening beautifully so I'd like to try it again without the other test sprays on various bits of my hands, muddling up the smell. I had a lovely time testing and chatting!

CointreauVersial Sat 02-Feb-13 19:27:21

Fuzzy - Ambre de Merveilles is on my wish list.

I finally got around to trying Knize Ten today. Whoah, leather and rubber overload. It is very masculine; I'll try it again but I'm not sure it floats my boat.

IsabelleRinging Sat 02-Feb-13 19:43:13

Tuscan leather has an amazing dry down, it's one of the only fragrances I've tried that really seemed to melt into the skin and smell better as the day wore on. It is on my long to buy list!

I tried my sample of Annick Goutal Matin d'Orage today. OMG I had to scrub, it made feel ill. I hoped it would be a really fresh green floral, and it is, but there is one note, not sure what it is, that gives it a cucumber smell. I found a similar note in Hermes Apres a la Mousson, could it be ginger?

coffeeinbed Sat 02-Feb-13 19:47:03

Ambre des Merveiiles has me undecided.
I adore all of the series - vile Elixir apart - not am still unsure about this.
Too much vanilla in the dry down.

Must give Knize a sniff. I keep reading about it.
Boudoir for some reason turned soapy powder. I distinctly remember liking it and the dirtyness of it, but not this time, I tried it a couple of weeks ago.

Serge Lutens Oranger is a marvel, I used up a bottle and have a second one waiting, but it's very silage-y, careful when spraying!

coffeeinbed Sat 02-Feb-13 19:48:00

Isabell - melon in Orage, unripe mango in Mousson.
Scrubbers indeed.

AwkwardSquad Sat 02-Feb-13 20:07:20

Now I'm getting fag ash from the Tuscan Leather. Really not sure, but definitely intrigued!

Does anyone remember Demeter? Dirt and Lettuce and Grass and so on? Just having a nostalgic moment about Dirt.

Haberdashery Sat 02-Feb-13 20:11:29

Incense Rosé today. Love this. It's absolutely bone dry but very very luxurious.

Fuzzybirds Sat 02-Feb-13 20:19:53

The more I try the more I realise I love 'in your face' perfumes. Which is odd seeing as I am so not an in your face person grin

I splashed out on a fb of L'Artisan's Ambre Extreme last week, so I kind of HAVE to prefer it to L'Ambre des Merveilles. Ambre Extreme is like a big, fluffy, comforting bear hug in a bottle, love at first sniff for me.

niminypiminy Sat 02-Feb-13 20:27:11

Wearing Shalimar from my new fb of the EdP today, tra la! I had a tiny bottle of the EdT before, but the EdP is sooo much more wonderful. I'd love to have a bottle of the Parfum, but funds won't permit at the moment.

Anyway, very happy with my new purchases (my bottle of Samsara came at the same time). Fuzzybirds I like big perfumes too -- don't think I am very in your face <worries>.

Haberdashery Sat 02-Feb-13 21:01:40

I spent years thinking I only liked quiet floral green things. But I realise that I rather love a bit of in your face, too. I think I was trying the wrong in your face things before. And I still dislike 99% of gourmands intensely. But once I stepped off the beaten track and stopped smelling things with that awful identical powdery musk note in them I realised that THAT was the problem and not the bigness, IYSWIM.

My favourite Demeter was Tomato. I also liked (this will surprise none of you) Rubber.

AwkwardSquad Sat 02-Feb-13 21:22:21

I liked tomato too, Haberdasher. I wore Dirt and Tomato at the same time. Probably smelt like an allotment.

AwkwardSquad Sat 02-Feb-13 21:22:58

Haberdashery! Oops.

IsabelleRinging Sat 02-Feb-13 21:23:35

Ah yes melon! I can see it now. Not a million miles away from cucumber. Thanks coffee

MrsSchadenfreude Sat 02-Feb-13 21:36:47

Un Jardin Apres Le Mousson makes me sneeze uncontrollably.

coffeeinbed Sat 02-Feb-13 21:38:59

Worst offender of this kind is Jo Malone Vanille Anise - indescribable ozonic melon vanilla.

coffeeinbed Sat 02-Feb-13 21:39:25


Haberdashery Sat 02-Feb-13 21:42:14

Allotment is a pretty good smell, actually. I would probably buy that in a bottle (Black March isn't far off).

coffeeinbed Sat 02-Feb-13 21:45:36

Have you tried Calamus Haber?
iris roots in the soil during rain.

Fuzzybirds Sat 02-Feb-13 21:58:19

Melon and cucumber don't do it for me either. Love the sound of Tomato and Dirt, I grew a lot of cherry toms last year and love the smell of the stalks.

Niminypiminy, I think we must like the same sorts of smells. Love both Samsara and Shalimar. I tried Shalimar Initial L'Eau recently and was unimpressed though....

AwkwardSquad Sat 02-Feb-13 22:01:48

I've just checked and it looks like Demeter is still in operation. Hmmmm. Tempted. I can't grow tomatoes (blight, always blight) but I can smell of freshly crushed tomato leaves!

Mixed reviews for Dirt, sounds as tho they have changed the formulation.

Haberdashery Sat 02-Feb-13 22:07:41

I would love another bottle of Tomato, actually. It was always the best one. Did any of you other tomato lovers like the perfume in the green packaging that Mac brought out in the late nineties or early 2000s? I bloody loved that perfume and they discontinued it and I have actually emailed them to beg them to bring it out again or get me a bottle of the old stuff and they have always declined. God, that was fabulous perfume. It was the smell of a hot greenhouse full of grape vines and tomato plants. Fabulous stuff.

Soil and rain sound fab, coffee, but am wary of iris which I generally dislike intensely.

niminypiminy Sat 02-Feb-13 22:08:23

Fuzzybirds smile great to have another Samsara fan around - so many people loathe it.

I love the smell of tomato leaves. There's a brand of soap - can't remember the name, they sell it in the Cambridge Botanical Garden shop, which is where I saw it - that has all kinds of gardeny smells. There's definitely one which smells of tomato leaves. Yummy!

Viviennemary Sat 02-Feb-13 22:21:48

I went into Superdrug this afternoon and there were a few testers out. I tried Obsession which was OK and another one which I had never heard of before. Lady Million (awful name) by Paco Rabanne. That was surprisingly very nice indeed. And has lasted ages on my hand although been washed a few times.

YouOldSlag Sun 03-Feb-13 09:40:51

Superdrug has a MadonnaTruth or Dare Gift set for 12.99. If you like tuberose it's actually a lovely fragrance. And it's VERY tuberose.

shoeprincess2 Sun 03-Feb-13 10:17:02

Niminy- you lucky lady. Kiwi introduced me to Shalimar. it is stunning. I would really love a fb. Maybe have to have a look online

Fuzzybirds Sun 03-Feb-13 13:28:24

Youoldslag I like tuberose and have heard good things about Truth or Dare, I will have to try it out as that is an absolute bargain! Dita Von Teese's perfume is also supposed to be good as far as celeb scents go and very affordable. I got a big bottle of SJP's Lovely for Christmas, which I love as a spring scent.

Talking of bargains, I was just thinking today that our local car boot will be starting again in a month or so. It's my happy hunting ground for all sorts of tat treasures. Can't wait to see if I find any decent perfume there!

CointreauVersial Sun 03-Feb-13 14:30:14

OK, ladies - SWAPSIES!

PM me if you fancy trying any of these, and have samples you don't want anymore which you could offer me (no tuberose, thanksgrin ). They are either manufacturer-filled samples, or decants from Surrender to Chance, and most used only once or twice:

Tauer Une Rose Vermeille 0.5ml
Dueto City Oud 1.2ml spray
Dueto City Love 1.2ml spray
Chanel Bois des Iles 1ml
Knize Knize Ten 1ml
L'Artisan Timbuktu 0.5ml
Bvlgari Au The Blanc 0.5ml
Dior Hypnotic Poison Eau Sensuelle 1.5ml spray
Gucci Gucci 1.5ml

Today I'm wearing Guerlain Aqua Allegoria Pamplelune. Fresh, soft grapefruit, but I think I prefer the Herba Fresca.

niminypiminy Sun 03-Feb-13 16:01:30

Shoeprincess I got a 30ml bottle from Escentuals -- it was £37 which is not hideously expensive.

CointreauVersial Sun 03-Feb-13 16:52:27

Niminy, have PMd you.

IsabelleRinging Sun 03-Feb-13 18:35:18

Managed to sneak out today for an hour of sniffing and testing. I tried loads on blotters which are now all layed on the coffee table to be sniffed at leisure. Lots of tuberose ones today, looking for a

I tried

Truth or Dare- sweet tuberose, very heady, the tester almost has a cloud of scent around it, this would probably give great silage when worn. I like it.

Luten's Datura Noir- this is lovely, sweet, almond, tuberose and coconut- tropical, would be lovely for evenings in summer.

Feminite de bois- fallen in love with this, lots of violets and powder and wood! need to test on skin!

Do Son- smells like tuberose, can't smell much else as the tuberose is so dominant.

Fracas and Petit Fracas, giving these another try- actually the Petit Fracas seems nicer and not so sweet once dry and it has a fruity chocolatelyness, but side by side it is not that much different from fracas, it is more modern smelling and even stronger!!!!. I have a sample of this so can't wait to try it on.

Floret EDP from Antonias flowers, this is nice, white flowers and fresh- maybe it could be the green white flower scent I'm after, not sure yet though, will have to try properly.

Finally, tried Songes, EDT on one wrist and EDP on the other. Initially the EDP was more heady and strong, but in the dry down I prefer the edt as it leaves behind more vanilla and is sweeter, I don't know if the EDP has any leather in the notes but I thought maybe I smelled a tiny little leather in the base.

Fuzzybirds Mon 04-Feb-13 10:20:47

Ooh Isabelle Feminite de Bois sounds right up my street. I do wish our nearest shopping centre had a greater range. I keep dropping hints to DH about going in to Bristol so I can have a good mooch around Harvey Nicks but parking+extortionate bridge toll makes it too expensive to do that often.

Wearing Hypnotic Poision today, one of my favourites smile

IsabelleRinging Mon 04-Feb-13 11:35:15

If you like hypnotic poison Fuzzy, try Lutens Datura Noir, it is quite similar, maybe not as much vanilla, but quite heady, coconut, and lots of almond.

YouOldSlag Mon 04-Feb-13 15:20:07

Feminite de bois- dirty knickers! I'd be interested to know if anyone else got that scent from it.It was embarrassing to wear and I had to wash it off. It smells like an unwashed lady has decided to use perfume instead of washing.

IsabelleRinging Mon 04-Feb-13 15:58:53

Really?? Nooooo! Don't put me off, I only got lovely powdery wood and innocent violets! That saying, I only sprayed it on paper so will need to test it properly.

clb Mon 04-Feb-13 16:19:08

I didn't get that either! Will have to try it again tomorrow - v tentatively.

coffeeinbed Mon 04-Feb-13 16:59:25

I don't get knickers or violets, I do know it was cumin so that might explain the dirty note.
There's another one - Bois de Violette, which is a version of Feminité plus violets.

IsabelleRinging Mon 04-Feb-13 17:21:56

It is definitely Feminite de Bois which I tried. The violets are not there in the top notes, but it is definitely violet I get it in base. The top is all plummy and floral with cedar, but the dry down is pure violets and sandalwood to me. I would like to try Bois de Violette also.

I am wearing Iris Nobile today from Aqua di Parma. I love the opening of this when I first spray, it all orange/neroli with the cooler powdery iris fighting it's way through. That doesn't last though and you are left with a woody sort of iris scent which is fairly warm, but it's not very strong, I have difficulty detecting it on myself. I might try the sublime version to see if it lasts better.

YouOldSlag Mon 04-Feb-13 17:23:16

Isabekle- i really liked iris Nobile. After trying Iris poudre, I was tempted never to try iris again, but Iris Nobile was lovely.

Fuzzybirds Mon 04-Feb-13 17:57:03

I would love to try Bois de Violette too, my list of violet scents to try is getting longer and longer! Also intrigued by Tom Fords's Black Violet.

I've got a sample of Iris Noble Sublime, although I haven't tried the original one yet so can't compare the two. It struck me as a very elegant and refined scent but extremely subtle, I could hardly smell it all by lunchtime. Lovely but not really 'me'.

Haberdashery Mon 04-Feb-13 17:59:49

Black Violet is absolutely gorgeous. Well worth a try, IMO.

IsabelleRinging Mon 04-Feb-13 18:07:29

The strongest violet scent i have ever tried is Geurlain Insolence, it is pure parma violets, the EDP version is the nicest. The silage is AMAZING. You really would need to like strong violets to like it though.

YouOldSlag Mon 04-Feb-13 18:09:34

Isabelle- I loved Insolence. Very violets and very lovely.

coffeeinbed Mon 04-Feb-13 18:15:30

I liked Insolence as well.
Really pretty.
Apres L'Ondee is probably my favourite violet.
Haven't tried Tom Ford's.
His Black Orchid put me off his perfumes for years and have been avoiding them until I read - here! - about Tuscan Leather.
So while I still proceed with caution I'm happy to give them a sniff.

williaminajetfighter Mon 04-Feb-13 21:03:53

Violette in Love is a gorgeous violet. Smells like violet candy sweets. Lovely. By Parfums de Nicolai.

Fuzzybirds Tue 05-Feb-13 10:12:00

Thank you all for the fab violet recommendations! I do like Insolence EDT but not tried the EDP yet, will have to give it a go. Coffee I really thought I would love Black Orchid but there is something in it I don't like. I've got the perfume parlour version which I actually prefer.

I feel as if I've been wearing and trying lots of very sweet scents lately so for a change I'm wearing Cristalle EDT today, which I love. I'll probably wear it a lot more during the spring but only got a tiny mini so don't want to run out (FB on the ever expanding wish list!)

CointreauVersial Tue 05-Feb-13 13:03:33

I didn't like Black Orchid either, but then I don't like a lot of the notes in it (jasmine, sandalwood). It's too cloying for me.

IsabelleRinging Tue 05-Feb-13 13:28:47

OOO I liiike Black Orchid, I think it is an aquired taste though, I could understand why many people don't like it, the blackcurrant opening is quite strong, but it dries down really nice. I find I can only wear it occasionally though, like Chrstmas parties, or rare times like I feel I want to stand out!

I am trying out Chanel No22 today. It smells like quality, expensive, aloof and classy. In the same family as No5 definitely, powder, soap,floral, aldehydes and long lasting. I quite like it, don't think I would ever have a need for a bottle of it though. It's just too vintage smelling. The only classic I want to get will be L'heure Bleu, which is much softer and whimsical than this one.

IsabelleRinging Tue 05-Feb-13 13:31:17

Has anyone tried Fleur Nocturne by Isabey, it gets amazing reviews?

CointreauVersial Wed 06-Feb-13 13:07:06

Not tried that one, Isabelle.

My Tauer samples arrived yesterday, so I'm trying Orange Star today. Not what I expected! I did get a brief citrus blast at the biginning, but it quickly settled into quite a strong white floral smell (orange blossom, I presume), which I really didn't like much. Five hours on it is definitely improving (I'm getting the warmer basenotes now), but I'm not quite feeling the love.

Four more to try....!

IsabelleRinging Wed 06-Feb-13 13:43:59

I am trying Nuit Etoilee from Annick Goutal today. This is the second time I have tried it, I really would like to fall in love with it so I have an excuse to buy a bottle as it is a deep blue and gorgeous and would look fab on my dressing table, but it's just not happening. It is a really unusual fragrance, there is little lemon in the opening, then lots of fresh mint and pine. It smells cold and sparkly at first. Then the mint dries a bit and there is definitely a pine forest smell to. It is quite refreshing and very unisex. I sprayed it first thing this morning, and by now, early afternoon there is a nice soft woody scent left behind, it is a fresh woody though, like pine, not creamy wood like sandalwood. This one isn't for me, but if you like fresh unusual scents this is worth trying. It is well done and I haven't smelt anything quite like it before, it's quite mystical!

Fuzzybirds Wed 06-Feb-13 16:16:10

I've not tried Fleur Nocturne either. I've been very restrained in not ordering more samples and trying to use what I've got as I spent my perfume budget (and then some) last month. Next time, I think I'll order some Tauer samples, or maybe the Histoires De Parfums sample set <indecisive>

I've been reading the Turin/Sanchez A-Z Perfume Guide, very interesting and quite cheap from Amazon at the mo. The 'to try' list has reached massive proportions now though grin

Being a bit boring and wearing Flowerbomb today, but had to find something not too overwhelming for going to soft play!

shoeprincess2 Wed 06-Feb-13 16:21:00

Fuzzybirds- me too. I am using up some of my samples before ordering any more- I have a wish list of about 15 at the minute, so will probably order 5 a month starting next month. Have fun at soft play.

ProFumo Wed 06-Feb-13 16:53:47

We may or may not have met before... (shh)
I'm a hardcore fumehead who loves Tauers and tries everything - including Heat by Beyoncé. wink

Nuit etoilee underwhelmed me too (named after my favorite van Gogh, but so wan and pale - where are the angry, psychotic comets?). Orange Star is tricky on me, bordering on unwearable.

Today I'm wearing Oud Ispahan. This is Portrait of a Lady taken one step further - a pungent rose oud with ultraviolet sillage. I have a 7,5 ml mini and it will last a long time - very strong stuff.

Perfume books can be really great. Without them, I wouldn't have found the really great stuff. Blogs are a good source of info as well - I've really enjoyed Perfume Shrine's recent post on fruity florals.

IsabelleRinging Wed 06-Feb-13 16:55:58

I haven't ordered many samples yet, prefer to get them free if I can, rather spend my money on whole bottle of a perfume I love- samples seem cheap but they really add up!! I am gong to order Fleur Nocturne, Carnal Flower and maybe a couple of the Villoresi ones from Les Senteurs, maybe Teint de Neige or Donna or Alamut? (Anyone tried these?)

grotbagz Wed 06-Feb-13 17:02:31

not sure if anyones said this but the mac perfume in turquoise is amazing but all of them are pretty nice - they've now stopped doing it in all the stores and only sell it in the flagship i think, gutting - whenever i wore it id always get complimented on it, so if you're ever around the mac store id definitely recommend trying it!

ProFumo Wed 06-Feb-13 17:02:49

Oh and a question for all - what are your go-to perfumes for office/playgroup/meeting elderly relatives?
I'm afraid I'm not as discreet as I should be (wore Oud Ispahan to work today blush), but gentle irises and classic colognes work well at work.

I found a sample set from Olfactive Studio the other day and their Lumiere Blanche struck me as very office appropriate too.

shoeprincess2 Wed 06-Feb-13 17:05:52

<waves to ProFumo> Welcome to our thread wink

YouOldSlag Wed 06-Feb-13 17:07:01

office or everyday wear: Cristalle, Eau de Cartier, Jovan White musk, Cabotine.

They won't bother anyone but they all smell really good.

grotbagz Wed 06-Feb-13 17:07:18

profumo - if I'm ever at a family occasion/going to a meeting etc i always use a scent like chanel coco mademoiselle or chance - or something similar my perfume shelf is like an apothecary, i prefer the fresher fragrances but for some reason i think these sort of ones give off a better vibe in that sort of situation - maybe I'm mad!

shoeprincess2 Wed 06-Feb-13 17:07:28

Isabelle*- Teint de Neige is gorgeous. You must get a sample. Very, very powdery but so opulent.

IsabelleRinging Wed 06-Feb-13 17:08:34

Welcome back? ProFumo grin.

My go to for winter is Chanel Allure, but think it might change to Iris Nobile in the future, and in summer it is Cristalle eau Vert for work. I like to try shock the elderly rellies though, so would wear whatever I fancied when visiting wink

YouOldSlag Wed 06-Feb-13 17:09:17

Agrre that fresh scents are better for mingling in the daytime. The ones I wear (listed above^^) are all green notes.

IsabelleRinging Wed 06-Feb-13 17:11:11

Will definitely try it shoe on your recommendation, opulent is what I like!

niminypiminy Wed 06-Feb-13 17:14:22

<waves to ProFumo>

I have a sample of Teint de Neige but detest it -- if anybody would like it (swap for something?) do PM me.

Today I'm wearing L'Eau d'Hiver, which would be a very good elderly relative/office/playgroup choice. Warm and comforting (I like the honied-ness of it) and long-lasting but very, very discreet.

Tomorrow will be Bois des Iles, courtesy of of CointreauVersial <excited>!

ProFumo Wed 06-Feb-13 17:30:50

Anyone who likes Teint de Neige: at least in my head, TdN, Rose d'Hollande by Mona di Orio and Cinabre by Maria Candida Gentile are a blockbusting girl gang - old school diva power taken to the max, think Elizabeth Taylor, Audrey Hepburn and Sophia Loren as Disney princesses. Powder puffs as nuclear warheads? grin

Oh and did I mention - we have TdN-scented baby wipes!

niminypiminy Wed 06-Feb-13 17:33:25

TdN baby wipes shockshock!

ProFumo Wed 06-Feb-13 17:35:15

I know... Will you call social services? grin

shoeprincess2 Wed 06-Feb-13 17:36:00

Oh my goodness. Too much!! My little boy with a TdN scented bottom. That would be fantastic smile. Yes, TdN makes me feel like a 1950s powerhouse (minus styled hair and red lipstick). But I do like all the big hitters- L'air du desert marocain, Loretta etc. My perfumes need to shout, not whisper.

Haberdashery Wed 06-Feb-13 18:01:19

Welcome back, ProFumo! Lovely to see you.

cardoon Wed 06-Feb-13 18:03:10

Have PM'd you niminy

Fuzzybirds Wed 06-Feb-13 18:35:47

Hi ProFumo, nice to 'meet' you smile

I quite like comforting ambery/ vanilla type scents for the purposes of toddler groups etc. I suppose I imagine them as cuddly, approachable scents- L'Artisan's Ambre Extreme or Shalimar. In my 20s I used to wear Gucci Envy for work, I do wish they'd bring it back!

YouOldSlag Wed 06-Feb-13 18:42:01

LOVE Gucci Envy. Utter madness to end it. There is and was nothing remotely like it.

CointreauVersial Wed 06-Feb-13 18:44:17

Well, helloooooo ProFumo! Beyonce Heat, you say....? wink

The Tauer Orange Star didn't get a lot better - the DCs all remarked on the "awful smell" in the car when I picked them up from school. hmm

Niminy - enjoy the Bois des Iles! I didn't hate it, but it was a bit "meh" for me. I can see why it's regarded as a great fragrance, though.

Even more samples arrived today - a batch from Les Senteurs, included the long-awaited Fat Electrician. Must.Stop.Ordering.Samples.....

florascotia Wed 06-Feb-13 18:46:22

Welcome back Profumo
We need (and enjoy) your wise words.

My scent today in the windy, sleety north is the chilly (and conventional) Guerlain Eau de Cologne Imperiale. Am wearing it because I need to stay alert. It's about as far possible from your splendidly sumptuous diva perfumes, but I think it would be OK for the most formal business meeting.

Witchesbrewandbiscuits Wed 06-Feb-13 18:56:44

ooh i love amber, vanilla and sandalwood.

any suggestions?

sorry if repeating, not read full thread.

ProFumo Wed 06-Feb-13 20:40:19

Beyoncé Heat is a captivating fragrance that unleashes a spirited fire within. It is a unique expression of a woman's powerful sensuality: sexy, elegant yet feminine with an air of mystery, this fragrance reflects a self-assured woman, who is not afraid to desire and to be desired.

Right. grin

But - if stars are aligned correctly, I might experience some real heat tomorrow night. It may involve heaven in a form or other. And possibly a python. <100 perfumista brownie points and a upgrade to Vol 4 if you know what I'm talking about>

ProFumo Wed 06-Feb-13 20:49:03

Sorry, poor editing...
Heat has a flanker now, Heat Rush.
Can immediately come up with at least three subsequent flanker names, can you?

Haberdashery Wed 06-Feb-13 21:00:02

How about Heat Rash? grin

Incense Rosé again today. I really like this one. This is as dry as Sycomore (which gave me a headache) but not so cold.

IsabelleRinging Wed 06-Feb-13 21:12:54

'Heat Exhaustion' ???

Haberdashery Wed 06-Feb-13 21:14:45

Prickly Heat?

williaminajetfighter Wed 06-Feb-13 21:35:16

Hi... I too was wearing orAnge star today. Not sure about that one. My new bottle of SL louve arrived and think I might have spent £60 to smell like baby powdery baby wipes!

Can anyone recommend an almond-y perfume? Struggling to find one or any I like.

Thx all.

IsabelleRinging Wed 06-Feb-13 21:39:14

Datura Noir has lots of almond.

clb Wed 06-Feb-13 21:49:37

I really like Heeley's L'Amandière, willaminajetfighter, and am struggling not to buy a FB.

Unbelievably, I too was trying Orange Star today and also not enjoying it very much. DD2 snuggled up and said "Do you like that perfume, Mummy?". I said I didn't think I did and she looked very relieved.

CointreauVersial Wed 06-Feb-13 21:55:26

grin grin at the Heat flankers. They couldn't possibly be worse than the original <chokes on memory>

ProFumo Wed 06-Feb-13 21:57:42

Ouch I know that full bottle remorse! Ladies, use up the samples and decants first. Your taste will change. You don't usually marry the first man you meet either... Louve might have an after-market though, it has many fast friends.

Almonds - Farnesiana, Hypnotic Poison, Amandes Orientales - quite different styles. There are many, many more but it's very easy to be heavy-handed with almondy aromachemicals.

I suggest selling our flanker name ideas to Coty. I could find a lot of uses for the royalties...

Going to wear some tuberose to bed. One of these in fact. He's a bit of an authority on that note, so worth listening to...

ProFumo Wed 06-Feb-13 22:15:37

An applause to L'Amandiere! Heeleys can be great, no?
I have an uncontrollable craving for that perfume in the spring. To me, strangely, it smells exactly like a dark sweet cherry - not a maraschino cherry or a candied cherry or a yogurt&shampoo&lipgloss cherry, but the real thing, stems and all.

Coty have come up with Heat Sparkling Body Mist <I think they really need us>

williaminajetfighter Thu 07-Feb-13 08:56:33

Thanks all for the great advice. I will look out for some of the almond perfumes. A friend told me that the best almond smell comes from Jergens almond and cherry lotion. And only 3.99 a bottle!

I have loads of samplers I no longer want. Will list them when I get home and see if I get any takers.

YouOldSlag Thu 07-Feb-13 08:58:16

Ah Profumo. The thread feels in proper working order again now.

I also liked Perfume Shrine's article on fruity florals, especially their origins and how it all began. There are way too many, but every now and then there is a really good one.

I also loved the articles on chypres and aldehydes. Both were excellent and really taught me a lot. It's an excellent blog.

shoeprincess2 Thu 07-Feb-13 09:13:16

ProFumo- I'm thinking it is something to do with Chinese New Year. Am I on the right tracks?

ProFumo Thu 07-Feb-13 09:48:34

Yes, Perfume Shrine is like a university for perfumistas. Turin/Sanchez etc get us hooked, Olfactoria and Bois de Jasmin and many others fuel the fire, but PS creates new synapses. I found her writing too dense and ponderous when I was a newbie but right now I really love her more researched pieces. A bulb went off in my head - I like really many proto fruity florals - it's a genre that was ruined by cheapened copycats, banal me toos and lackluster shampoo/yogurt imitations, but the original ideas were quite avant-garde.
A good thing to know is that fruit notes are always synthetic. Extracting them from high water-content fruit is chemically tricky (fruit esters are reactive and short-lived and turn easily into foul-smelling acids) and this is why the apple you are about to bite into is quite different from 'apple' in shampoo or candy. For the true nerds among us grin, some simple chemistry here. I'm obsessed with these because I often don't get fruity perfumes.

The tuberose I enjoyed last night was Beyond Love. (Onomatopetic connection with Beyoncé). A cool, cerebral, sleek tuberose, missing all the enjoyable junk & ballast & grit of Loretta, Poison. Like one of those people you admire but find difficult to approch and love because they are inhumanely perfect.

Today I'm wearing something that smells quite mediocre.
An expensive niche release, but am not feeling the love.

ProFumo Thu 07-Feb-13 09:52:52

Chinese New Year - cool, cooler.
Keywords: Python, paradise, cognac.

CointreauVersial Thu 07-Feb-13 13:22:11

Today I needed something soothing after yesterday's Orange Star trauma, so I'm wearing Fils de Dieu du Riz et des Agrumes by Etat Libre D'Orange (I think that's right - god help me if someone wants to know what perfume I'm wearing!).

It's very lovely, reminded me of a Thai curry at first, all lime and coconut, and has now settled to a soft spicy warmth. It doesn't project far, though.

IsabelleRinging Thu 07-Feb-13 13:29:29

I am wearing Roberto Cavalli today, which was a duty free impulse buy last year. Lots of orange blossom, a nice soft warm fragrance, quite 80s feeling. It is very pleasing and pleasant, but doesn't 'speak' much. All these great fragrances I'm learning about which are very individual in style are spoiling me for the more mainstream 'nice' scents I used to like.

clb Thu 07-Feb-13 15:21:35

SsOTD are Lys Mediterranée on the left wrist and Carnal Flower on the right, after a very enjoyable visit to Les Senteurs. Love 'em both, alas.

niminypiminy Thu 07-Feb-13 15:40:17

Surely one of the heat flankers has to be called Deep Heat, no?

YouOldSlag Thu 07-Feb-13 18:10:47

I think it should be called ON HEAT

coffeeinbed Thu 07-Feb-13 18:44:26

Well, I'll admit it.
I don't get on with the Turin/Sanchez guide.
I think lots of it is just being funny/cutting/witty for the sake of it in a self-indulgent way.
I'm not in any way disputing Luca Turin's credentials as a scientist and nose, and I know Tania is an aspiring writer, but the Guide is sometimes wallowing in it's own cleverness.
I do read some blogs - PS is indeed well researched and now that Victoria's writing has sobered up - it used to be very flowery I like that too.

YouOldSlag Thu 07-Feb-13 18:55:06

I tried Serge Lutens Louve the other day and it was too many cherries and chocolate for me.

And for some reason Chergui smelt like dried Pot Noodles on me.

I LOVED Borneo 1834 though.

Sometimes perfume baffles me.

YouOldSlag Thu 07-Feb-13 18:59:14

I liked the Turin/Sanchez guide. Sometimes it was too clever by half, but I find it really entertaining as a "dip in and out" book.

They dislike a lot of my favourites, but also give some of my favourites a great big ticker tape parade, which tells me my taste is sometimes great and sometimes terrible!

But actually there is no right and wrong with perfume. It's like poetry. Whether you love it or loathe it, your response is never wrong.

ProFumo Thu 07-Feb-13 19:58:03

I'm loving the Heat Wave and really looking forward to the launch of Heat Tech (aka Beyonce for Him) wink

If you think bad names and purple prose are limited to the dime store end of perfumery, please grab a glass of champagne, avoid smearing lip gloss on that vintage ivory silk tuxedo brushing by (YSL), and join me and a crowd of outrageously styled men wearing Beyond Love (the new Black Orchid, surely) for cocktails at a perfume launch party.

Whew, I'm just home from there.

On my right wrist I'm wearing Good Girl Gone Bad. No, it's not by Rihanna, it's By Kilian. It's high-end niche, made by one of the best perfumers around. The bottle has a snake motif (we are in the Garden of Good and Evil, apparently) and costs much more than you'd think by smelling it.

The cocktails were really nice, lots of paparazzi and fashion people in attendance, I got a lot of eye makeup ideas (Cleopatra is back)… The perfumes? GGGB is slick, seamlessly well made, and utterly banal. The scent is something you would expect to get in a high-end hair product or shower gel. It's what you get when you pay premium for a concept that would also sell really well in Sephora. You could wear this to church. My daughters would love it - my mother too.

I'm not sure I've been to a perfume launch before where I haven't smelled everything they roll out, but I couldn't force it this time - I'm leaving Forbidden Games and The City of Sin to you, ladies wink wine

Kilian Hennessy looked cute and he is clearly a slick marketer and a clever crowdsourcer (for a while, you got a velvet pouch of his samples by friending him on FB). But he didn't take his shirt off or drape the python around his torso <wail>

I briefly stopped at Chanel and chatted with one of the SAs. Someone I know has been wearing 1932 today somewhere else, but no such luck for me.

florascotia Thu 07-Feb-13 20:35:57

Obviously, have not sampled the scents disliked by Profumo, above. But as a crepey , I cannot save self from occasionally thinking new scent = emperors' old and sadly lacking clothes. Am sure that many modern smells are (to most) quite lovely - but so many start off with fruit (peach/berries = an absolute NO to me, an instant headache) or else with something kinky - or do I mean emetic? - such as rubber....Ugh.

For instance (am I alone?) I just can't get on with most Tauers. Is this heresy?

Any examples of soul-uplifting, life-enhancing MODERN scents, fellow Mumsnetters ?? I like Eau de L' Hermine (but IMO it does not last long enough) and also don't mind L'Angeliqes Sous La Pluie and La Chasse aux Paillions. But neither of those last two means lurve, lurve, lurve....

Perhaps I should resign self to really old labels, Guerlain, Patou,Caron, etc...

Horrid thought strikes - can one be a perfumista trying too hard and ending up as scented mutton dressed as lamb??

Haberdashery Thu 07-Feb-13 21:17:13

I love rubber and tar and the slightly weirder more medicinal and pharmaceutical scents. The only fruit I really get on with is citrus, tbh, or fig. Sweet fruit smells like peach make me feel absolutely sick and I think there are far too many of them in mainstream perfumes. Ditto that awful sweet musky powdery smell that everything has in it these days. I haven't got a clue what it's called but it became absolutely unavoidable in the nineties and doesn't seem to have really gone away.

coffeeinbed Thu 07-Feb-13 21:44:58

Confession two - I'm on a roll - I haven't tried a Tauer yet.
I'm not going to tell you why because I'll get flamed.

I love tar and smoke but I'm happy with Eau du Fier. When my bottle runs out then I'll see.
I do think one can be trying too hard, but for me that would be going back to the classics.

Haberdashery Thu 07-Feb-13 22:06:08

>> I'm not going to tell you why because I'll get flamed.

You absolutely have to tell us now!

I don't think this is a flamey kind of thread. Everyone's too nice.

coffeeinbed Thu 07-Feb-13 22:10:53

I know..

Haberdashery Thu 07-Feb-13 22:14:43

You rotter!

IsabelleRinging Thu 07-Feb-13 22:20:50

I haven't found a Tauer I like the sound of enough to bother sampling. I really want to like one as they seem so highly regarded, but I've read all the reviews for each one and the notes and descriptions but none have inspired me so far.

I am waiting for samples from les senteurs of Fleur nocturne, Carnal Flower, Vanille et Coco, and Teint de Neige. (why is there a limit of 4?).

ProFumo Thu 07-Feb-13 22:29:45

Nah, nobody is getting flamed. Lots of perfumistas don't like Tauers. He has a signature style and uses some signature chemicals and it's easier to love him if you like very big scents and orientals. I have a couple of Tauers that I dislike intensely and avoid putting on my skin.

Not every perfumista likes Lutens (or should we say Sheldrake) either, although he really has changed what we expect from perfumes.

Annoying background noises in perfumes? My first choices would be ambroxan (go smell Molecule 2), cashmeran ("blonde woods") and Iso E Super (Molecule 1- synthetic cedar note). They are ubiquitous.

I like Turin/Sanchez because they know more about perfume than just about any salesperson I've ever met grin They also dare to make fun of a solemn subject that used to be shrouded in mystery and press release hyperbole. To me, they are like restaurant critics or Tripadvisor - making me aware of gems I wouldn't find on my own and saving me from a food poisoning or two. The book made me laugh (I love most one star reviews) and inspired me to smell hundreds of different perfumes - also mainstream stuff. They have their biases but don't we all grin
Le Snob is a great choice for someone who needs a more concise and less snarky guide. I find Basenotes quite good - you will get a range of opinions.

IsabelleRinging Thu 07-Feb-13 22:37:58

I have enjoyed reading Bois de Jasmine, easy to navigate and not too poncy. Profumo, or anyone else?, which Tauer would you recommend for a floral/oriental fan? I thought it was Ambers I loved, but after sampling a few like Ambre Sultan, I find these just too masculine, I actually think I like more floral notes in my orientals.

niminypiminy Thu 07-Feb-13 22:44:46

I wonder if you don't learn as much from smelling things you don't like as things you do. I sampled a few Frederic Malle perfumes and apart from L'Eau d'Hiver, which is nice but not wow-some, I've disliked them all. Of the Tauers I've tried I've only really liked one - Le Maroc Pour Elle.

I quite like reading reviews but often they are very gushing, and I sometimes wonder if there is something wrong with my nose that I don't experience the wonders that reviewers do. Quite often what I think is 'brings new meaning to the words nothing special'.

Been wearing Bois des Iles today, which was a case in point. (Btw CointreauVersial did you get the samples yet? <worried>) I wanted to like it, but really I was a bit indifferent.

ProFumo Thu 07-Feb-13 22:45:59

A friend who likes elegant florals likes Incense Rose.
Loretta is a tuberose/cough drop, Miriam aldehyde.
But it may also be that he has nothing that really feels truly you.

Haberdashery Thu 07-Feb-13 22:59:49

Incense Rose is lovely - v sophisticated. I think I tend to gush about perfumes sometimes but then you wouldn't bother to write more than a few words unless you really like or dislike something. I wouldn't, anyway!

CointreauVersial Thu 07-Feb-13 23:06:34

Emperor's new clothes? Well, I'm a simple girl.

I am enjoying the experience of stepping outside the box perfume-wise, and trying new scents and sensations that I wouldn't have done otherwise. I really don't give a stuff which brand is which, and I'm not much good at putting into words the olifactory experience, but I'm starting to appreciate there is a whole world of fragrance outside the mainstream (and don't forget I spent several years working in that very business) and I'm having a bit of fun with it! Funny how we enjoy challenging and expanding nearly all our senses (food, art, music....) but I don't think I've ever challenged my sense of smell ......Maybe it is emperor's new clothes, but I don't think so.

Yes, I agree with Niminy; it's just as interesting to find out what you don't like as opposed to what you do! (btw, samples not arrived yet, but I'll let you know...)

ProFumo Fri 08-Feb-13 06:37:18

I'm with Cointreau - for me loving perfume is about challenging my nose. A bit like music - sometimes the kitsch of Billy Joel is just right - and sometimes your eardrums need the dissonances of Prokofjev and Ligety.

I've learned a lot from smelling bad perfume. You learn to appreciate good craftmanship, great materials and also original ideas grin
I think the best way forward is to smell a lot and sometimes withhold judgment (not think "Do I like this?" but "What do I smell?"). When I stopped thinking of perfumes as clothes (or extensions of my personality) and started going for the experience, I really got hooked.

Not everyone proceeds like this. Most people are happy with one bottle and this is not anything they actively think about.

Systematic smelling has been really useful for me. Smelling all perfumes alphabetized under a certain letter in Sephora - smelling everything from a certain house - smelling something from each subgroup from the perfume wheel (I thought I was an oriental lover, but greens and leathers really make my heart sing. I thought I disliked fruit and white flowers, but have found quite a few exceptions. And I thought classic colognes are boring and fougeres just for men - now I wear and enjoy both). Or picking a note that piques your curiosity and smelling half a dozen different perfumes that feature it (osmanthus, anyone?). Or take a top 10 list - one of the many in Turin/Sanchez, or the top five or ten perfumes of a fellow perfumista, smell them all.

If you feel jaded with modern mainstream feminines, buy a bunch of vintage samples and work your way through the classics (a good book or one of Bois de Jasmin's series will help you understand them better). Or switch over to the masculine side and expand your horizons by spending some quality time with them. Or seek out some of the cutting-edge niche houses: CdG, Olfactive Studio, Odriu, Odin New York, Slumberhouse, CB I Hate Perfume, and yes, Tauer grin

IsabelleRinging Fri 08-Feb-13 07:58:20

For me, at the moment anyway, I feel as if i am on a journey, an interesting and exciting one, to find the love of my life. Along the way I have encountered a few frogs, some that were wrong for me, some that I thought were the one and we had a lovely time together, some that were good for a fling, a couple that were for one night only and a few that will stay friends forever. The journey seems to stretch out far ahead, but at the end is the most perfect perfect, impossible dream, the one and only!

I suspect the journey and the search is the best part of this fantasy though.

ProFumo Fri 08-Feb-13 08:56:47

I've been happily monogamic for the past 15 years.
This allows me to be really promiscuous with perfume wink

Ladies, we are not swapping mugshots here, but give an olfactory snapshot of yourself! What have you been mostly wearing (or have worn at least twice or reach for when in a rush) during the past month or so?

I've been very busy with work and travel, and have not had much time to think about perfume. Easy/comforting/work compatible autopilot scents: Chanel 19 vintage EdT (green and rosy), Dior Oud Ispahan (rose oud), Malle Portrait of a Lady (patchouli rose), plus have been flirting with By Kilian velvet pouch (the tuberose, Beyond Love, is growing on me). HdP 1740 Marquis de Sade (dried fruit, immortelle, leather - smells like an old man's library) and Guerlain Tonka Imperiale (sweet, dense, heavy marzipan-rosemary) have also felt good too during the coldest days.

Fuzzybirds Fri 08-Feb-13 09:27:28

Good morning oh smelly ones grin
I've finished the Turin/ Sanchez guide. I did find it very enjoyable and as a die hard bargain hunter, loved some of the surprisingly good reviews for certain cheapies. Perversely, my current and not cheap favourite, Ambre Extreme, is panned by them but beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that.

Profumo, I tend to reach for Coco at weekends/ evenings out. On weekdays over the last month I've worn Lovely a few times and also Lyn Harris La Poudree. Today I'm wearing original Chloe, another bargain!

coffeeinbed Fri 08-Feb-13 09:31:40

This week has been mostly Iris39 and Not a perfume layered with L'Eté en Douce.
Also Nu EdT.
And a couple of time I just forgot to put any. The shame...

shoeprincess2 Fri 08-Feb-13 10:01:26

<runs in huffing and puffing> This thread is moving apace- just catching up! My LO is waking up EVERY HOUR!!! I am existing on next to no sleep, so my perfume of choice at the moment has to be the olfactory equivalent of mainlining caffeine. Loretta, Loretta, Loretta. I would say that pretty much sums up my profile at the moment. Along with L'air, Ambre Sultan, Shalimar and sometimes a dash of Incense Rose. I'm a bit of a stuck record at the moment, as I am holding back on sample orders for another few weeks, so will be adding some more to my fragrant drawer very soon...

Isabelle- please let me know what Fleur Nocturne is like, as it is on my list for the Les Senteurs order. Of course, I would also like to know what you think of TdN.

Fuzzybirds- Is Lyn Harris La Poudree worth a punt? I have some m & S vouchers, so they could go towards that...

amothersplaceisinthewrong Fri 08-Feb-13 10:06:58

Have worn nothing but Chanel Allure Eau de Parfum (not Eau de Toilette) for the past ten years.

YouOldSlag Fri 08-Feb-13 10:57:05

Profumo- you are right about perfume being an experience. Working my way through a box of samples a dear friend lent me I had the following emotions:

Iris Poudre- I felt menaced and threatened like an enemy was in the room
Amouage Dia- cried my eyes out- the exact smell of my much missed grandmother's bedroom and dressing table.
Ambre Sultan-panicky and angry
Eau de Cartier- happy and smiley.
LouLou- bittersweet- the smell of my youth and freedom when I first left home.

I was wrung out by the time I finished. More emotional than music or old letters.

Fuzzybirds Fri 08-Feb-13 12:02:11

Shoe, La Poudree has been a real grower for me. Of the three I actually preferred La Fleur but shortly before Christmas M&S had all their fragrance gift sets at half price, but no La Fleur left in my local branch so I got La Poudree instead. To me it has a very classic feel, I get glimpses of Miss Dior in the opening and a soft, vanillary drydown which reminds me of Shalimar. Very good longevity considering the price and I think they have 20% off at the mo too, definitely worth testing. Last time I was there I tried Emilie by Fragonard- seriously strong and almost exactly like Paris!

YouOldSlag I know what you mean! Wearing Chloe today takes me back to my 18 year old self, I feel oddly self conscious and like I should be getting ready for a night out down the student's union grin

IsabelleRinging Fri 08-Feb-13 12:58:51

For work I have mostly been rotating between Allure, White Patchouli, and Elie Saab. I have also worn a few of my samples, Fleur d'Oranger, Iris Nobile, Nuit Etoile etc. At weekends I've worn Portrait of a Lady, Black orchid and Coromandel. Wearing Coromandel to work today though as I want to go out this evening and won't have time to shower again, so will just be able to top up. It was much appreciated by a couple of colleagues who asked what I was wearing grin. This has definitely moved to near the top of 'want it' list.

Looking forward to the weekend, going to try out my samples of Petit Fracas and Cuir de Russie. I imagine myself wearing Cuir de Russie on a Sunday with a white shirt, jeans and a soft leather handbag and boots. Not really sure about Petit fracas though, it seems quite flirty so might wear on Saturday for lunch out with DH and a bright lipstick!

williaminajetfighter Fri 08-Feb-13 13:28:12

I found some of my By Kilian samples and concur with others that Beyond Love is lovely. But has anyone tried Love? It was much-lauded but when I opened it first smell I get is Fermaldehyde, same smell a the frog I had to dissect in grade 11 biology. Hideous. Is that the benzoine?

By Kilian's Rose Oud though, is lovely. Thick, smoky but with a really earthy authentic rose smell. Highly recommend it though primarily for evening not day.

ProFumo Fri 08-Feb-13 13:42:28

I can try Love later. grin
Wearing Incense Rose but obsessed with Beyond Love.
Don't have Rose Oud (but would probably like it - Rose Ispahan cannot be too different).

YouOldSlag you have exceptionally strong reactions to perfumes. (I know a lot of perfumistas who suffer from a tendency to get sensory overloads - many suffer from migraines too). Maybe you should start exploring the Eau de Cartier (lovely perfume!) happy direction, clear, effervescent hesperides, perhaps with a touch of spice. Light unisex/ masculine might also work, Eau Sauvage, Chanel Allure Homme Edition Blanche for example. Do you like classic colognes?

ProFumo Fri 08-Feb-13 13:44:57

Oh and everyone's current wardrobes sound lovely.
Keep'em coming!
And yy to mainlining Loretta!!!
<mentally preparing for a kiddie birthday>

YouOldSlag Fri 08-Feb-13 13:53:05

ProFumo, funnily enough I get a lot of migraines too. I will pursue your advice and look into effervescent hesperides. I love Cristalle, O de Lancome and of course my beloved Eau de Cartier.

If by classic colognes you mean 4711 and that ilk, then yes indeed I do! I will look out for Eau Sauvage.

Perfume is such a journey- it takes me lots of places in my head.

CointreauVersial Fri 08-Feb-13 15:36:44

I have been ordering and trying so many samples recently I'm a veritable fragrance tart! The ones I keep coming back to in this chilly weather are L'Air du Desert Marocain, Ambre Narguile, Un Bois Vanille and Tea for Two (must buy a decant of the latter before it disappears).

Anyway, Mr Tauer has redeemed himself after the Orange Star nightmare, as I've been wearing Vetiver Dance today, and really loving it. Sharp green vetiver, with a note of fresh gingerbread, and there are more spices coming through now. Strange mixture, actually, but very sniffable.

ProFumo - that Tonka Imperiale is on my wishlist. I was planning to put an order in through Crystal Flacon, but I'm not sure how - do you just pm the seller and make a request?

florascotia Fri 08-Feb-13 18:17:32

Very sorry, Perfumistas. Did not mean to be disparaging with my emperors' clothes remark. Was just lamenting the fact that, so far, have not found any new scent that equals the comfort and/or uplift of a few old tried and tested ones.

But - aha! - that's all the more reason to enjoy the hunt and keep on looking...

Have started off down a different track today with a sample of 28 La Pausa. That has faint smokiness, along with sugary woods and iris and (?) violets. It's very gentle. Nice, but not for me. Rather reminds me of tiny, tiny childhood sweets called, I think, 'fairy gums'.

OeufsEnCocotte Fri 08-Feb-13 20:13:00

Hello Perfumistas, I've been following these threads with some interest (and awe at your finely-tuned olfactory abilities) and am hoping someone might be able to point me in the direction of a perfume which would make a good replacement for the Body Shop's now defunct Neroli Jasmin.

The fuckers have totally changed and weakened the fragrance 'remodelled' it as Indian Night Jasmin and the new version's no good. I know the Body Shop isn't exactly high-end in perfume terms, but I loved Neroli Jasmin and wore it every day sad so I'd be ever so grateful if someone could suggest a similar fragrance. As well as neroli and, erm, jasmine, I think it had vanilla and sandalwood notes too.

Fingers crossed someone can help and thanks in advance for any pointers.

niminypiminy Fri 08-Feb-13 20:24:06

I'm wearing another Tauer today - Carillon pour une Ange. It's interesting. I don't see it as very celestial, though; there's something vegetal about its floral-ness. It reminds me very much of Brompton Stocks -- you know, those cut flowers that have such a heavy scent when fresh, but which quickly turn their water stagnant. There's something of the cut-flower lushness with just a hint of brackish water there. Interesting. I don't know if I like it, exactly, but it's a really interesting smell.

ProFumo Fri 08-Feb-13 20:38:14

Flora no offense taken - and if you ask many experts - say Andy Tauer- they will reply that the golden era of perfumery was in the 1920s or 1930s.

I agree 100% that there are a lot of schlocky, unnecessary mainstream and niche perfumes. These really are the Emperor's new clothes.

I believe our olfactory preferences have a role here too. For me, many classic aldehydic florals are as constricting as an ill-fitting bra. I'm hugely relieved that I live in an era when Haber and I are allowed to wear tarry, sweaty leathers. My interest in perfume withered when watery and fruity became the new normal. For a chypre or aldehyde lover, however, these times are really dire. Or imagine living in the 80s if you liked quiet perfumes...

ProFumo Fri 08-Feb-13 20:43:36

Oeufs, no need to change, buy yours on eBay?
That's where most of us buy discontinued fragrances.
Most sellers there are honest people trying to clear attics or shift old stock or get rid of unwanted gifts.

OeufsEnCocotte Fri 08-Feb-13 21:29:43

Thanks for replying ProFumo - eBay is good in the short term, but I really need to find a decent replacement so I don't start spending all my gin money on rapidly depleting (and inversely inflated) Neroli Jasmin remainders.

I'm going to try Intimately Beckham (much as I'm loathe to fund Beckhams Inc) as someone on this site seems to think it's very similar. Thanks again for replying smile

scarletsalt Fri 08-Feb-13 21:39:31

Hello, I am tentatvely dipping my toe in here as you all seem so knowledgeable about perfumes and I would love to try a few of the more niche ones. I have looked on the les senteurs website and I fancy trying some of the samples but I have no idea where to start and I was wondering if someone here could make a few recommendations.

I know nothing about the names of different scents but I know what I like iyswim. My most recent purchase was Daisy by Marc Jacobs as I really like the fresh scent of it. I also bought Oh Lola by MJ a few months ago and I love it (I think it is quite fruity and floral?!). I also love Miss Dior (the one advertised by Natalie Portman?). For a long time before now I have worn Romance by Ralph Lauren, which is one of my favourite perfumes, and I used to love Allure by Chanel. I know that I dont like the heavy 'perfumey' smells like Chanel no. 5. And I really dont like Angel either.

Gosh I sound like a total perfume pleb dont I! But can anyone recommend anything I might like from what I have said above?

Haberdashery Fri 08-Feb-13 21:44:17

I thought Carillon pour un Ange was a bit like being whacked over the head with a wedding bouquet, niminy. It's not as subtle as the angel thing would lead you to believe! The stocks thing is a really good comparison. I know exactly what you mean.

Profumo, I too am delighted that women can wear leather, rubber, smoke and tar and get away with it these days. I don't think it's that long ago that it would have been completely bizarre. When I was at university I used to wear Eau Sauvage sometimes and several people were SHOCKED that I was wearing a man's aftershave. OK, that's 25 years or so ago but still...

I've been wearing Reverie au Jardin today. I think I need more lavender in my life at the moment.

My standby fragrance wardrobe over the past few weeks has been L'Air du Temps for work, Lonestar Memories at night and interludes of Chanel No 19 Poudré.

Haberdashery Fri 08-Feb-13 21:45:49

Hello, scarletsalt. I am nowhere near as knowledgeable as most of those who post here but welcome anyway!

IsabelleRinging Fri 08-Feb-13 21:50:55

I think our early experience of perfume has had a lasting effect on our preferences now.

Coming of age in the 1980s and my first perfume at around age 15 being Poison, which I loved, it's kind of hard to fall in love with a watery fruity floral, they just fall short of the mark compared to those big 80s orientals. My mum wore Youth Dew throughout my childhood, which is such a BIG fragrance, it's hardly surprising that for myself I chose Poison, it just about matched my mums signature, in a more modern way but equally loud way.

I imagine for many younger women who have been born into a world where the light fruity floral is all they have known, any of the aldehydes and chypres and heavy orientials must smell vile.

scarlet you have quite mainstream tastes at the moment, I think you will find many of scents on les senteurs a little 'different', someone with a bit more experience than me might be able to steer you in the right direction of something good quality but not too challenging to satrt with, maybe some of the Annick Goutals, or Serge lutens??

Fuzzybirds Fri 08-Feb-13 21:51:47

I agree Profumo, the scents I fall in love with always remind me of something else. Sometimes it's a perfume I've met before on someone else and enjoyed but don't realise it's the same one until I try it myself, which happened with Coco (now worn by three generations of family members!)

Sometimes I try a perfume and it triggers an old memory- Insolence brought back my Nan's pink lipstick in a gold case confused but that's why I like it. Luckily for me, there isn't much I don't like (not so good for my poor wallet though!)

Oeufs, there is nowt wrong with the Body Shop, I may or may not still wear White Musk from time to time wink

I have purchased three cheapie samples from ebay, two of which I didn't even want, all so I could get one of YSL M7. I can highly recommend this page-

In particular, try clicking on the bottom picture of the ad campaign grin

Sorry, not so good at links.

IsabelleRinging Fri 08-Feb-13 21:56:23

OOOOHHH DH used to wear M7, can't for the life of me understand why it was discontinued!????!!

Fuzzybirds Fri 08-Feb-13 22:04:20

Whoops, obviously took ages to post blush

Scarlett, I'm very new to niche fragrances but the L'Artisan Parfumeur perfumes I've tried have been very approachable.

Isabelle, I find I'm drawn to stronger scents too and I've also spent my childhood around powerhouse fragrances. My teacher in my final year of primary school wore a cloud of Poison every day, but strangely it didn't put me off and I still love it.

scarletsalt Fri 08-Feb-13 22:07:22

Thanks isabelle yes you are right, I have definitely always only ever really smelt the mainstream fruity florals, but am fascinated to see what I would think of some of the different ones. I have looked at the annick goutals and serge lutens and have seen a couple on there that I might do a bit of further research on and get a sample of.

Dont think I will be going for the knize ten just yet!

MrsSchadenfreude Fri 08-Feb-13 22:10:29

Isabelle - I was a teen in the 80s too, and used to wear: Jovan's Sex Appeal for Women (cringe), Cinnabar and Halston. I used to love Halston! I also used to wear Pino Silvestre, which was a "man's fragrance", and I still love it. I had a boyfriend who used to wear Aramis, and another who used to wear Kouros. There was nothing subtle about the 1980s! My mother used to wear Giorgio and something called Charles of the Ritz, which despite its naff name, used to smell rather nice.

niminypiminy Fri 08-Feb-13 22:23:03

My eighties fragrance was White Linen -- I was musing on it the other day after reading Bois de Jasmin who gives it 5 stars. Powerhouse -tick; aldehydes to the max - tick. Hm, I must go and have a sniff again, just for old times sake.

Yes, Haberdashery, hit over the head by Brompton stocks. Are those the flowers that Morrissey used to have in his back pocket (can't the eighties out of my head now)?

I think tomorrow I might have a break from testing and go back to Shalimar. Sooo beautiful, I'm tempted to wear too much blush

Viviennemary Fri 08-Feb-13 22:27:54

I used to love White Linen too. And I also liked Youth Dew. I couldn't believe it was still going. Haven't used it for years and years. I like the sound of bois de Violettes. But it so expensive. I don't think I could ever justify spending that much or even asking for it as a present.

scarletsalt Fri 08-Feb-13 22:32:48

Fuzzybirds, can you get the l'artisan parfumer perfumes in sample size at all? Dont want to commit to a big bottle, but am loving some of the descriptions of the fragraces!

IsabelleRinging Fri 08-Feb-13 22:33:01

I haven't worn Poison since my first bottle ran out (it lasted years), smelled it recently, and although it is not exactly the same, it is similar enough to bring back great memories. The 80s were great!

I still like similar ones now though, I always think of Black Orchid as being in the same family.

Perfumistas, which perfume do you find projects the most on you?

.....On me it is probably Portrait of a Lady or Coromandel. Insolence and the Gucci EDP (the original now sadly discontinued ) used to get noticed a lot too, as did D&D pour Femme (old one) and Boudoir

Did anyone ever wear Exclamation! ? It was in a white round bottle and the lid was an exclamation mark, if I remember rightly it smelled powdery and quite sweet and i used to buy it in boots, not from the fragrance counters though, it was stocked amongst the coty laimants etc in the cheaper fragrance section. Ahh those were they days <mental note to see if they still make it and have a sniff >

YouOldSlag Sat 09-Feb-13 01:17:37

The biggest projection ever is (IMO) Giorgio Beverly Hill or Poison or Obsession.

ProFumo Sat 09-Feb-13 07:38:12

Nobody needs to be knowledgeable to join this thread. An open and curious mind and the willingness to talk about perfume is all that is needed!

Ah, the eighties and early nineties.
My earliest loves: CK Obsession and Eternity, Amarige by Givenchy, Amazone by Hermes (I still wear this occasionally) - but I also sampled others and remember rather liking Chanel No. 19 and disliking No. 5 and Patou's Joy. Angel scared me.

I tuned out when watery perfumes became popular and wore RL Romance, Burberry Woman and Stella McCartney. During my pregnancies, my sense of smell became hypersensitive and I had to give up perfumes (and visiting the fish section on supermarkets). Then I slowly became interested in perfumes again, first via frequent exposure to duty frees, an then alarmed because many big classics I remembered had disappeared from department stores.

L'Artisan samples are not always the easiest to find. I got lucky, I have a sample of nearly everything from their range (courtesy of a German perfumista eBayer). You can also purchase them here (5€ per sample, shipping to UK 11 € via UPS so you will not have to deal with postal restrictions). Or try to find a place that sells them so that you can sample in-store. They have just ended their twice-a-year sale, they used to have a feminine sample set with tricky glass pearl bottles but not sure they still have it.

Re: good neroli-jasmine perfumes, trying to find exact replacements for something discontinued/reformulated is often very frustrating. I would encourage you to explore anything with "white flowers" in them. If you like them with a sweet, soft base, try finding "white flower ambers". But just trying on a lot of perfumes that feature orange blossom, neroli or jasmine can be a good start. Two sweet citrus perfumes I like are Bergamote by The Different Company and Neroli Portofino by Tom Ford. Cheap orange blossom can often be brash and loud, literally toilet bowl cleaner/air freshener scents, so I do not know the low end all that well. Narcisse Noir by Caron is to me my ultimate comfort orange blossom (expensive as a bottle but a sample is 5 GBP at Les Senteurs). I am not a white flower expert, but aren't Elie Saab and Cavalli EdP potential mainstream alternatives. Can someone name some great niche orange blossoms and nerolis? (The difference between them is clear although people often use them interchangeably: OB smells lush, narcotic and feminine, neroli is more straight-backed and masculine.)

Anyone new to niche, good pathways in are imo L'Artisan, Diptyque, Lutens, Annick Goutal, Chanel Les Exclusifs, Hermes Hermessences, Dior La collection privee and Tauers. You don't need to smell all of them, but all of them are different enough from what is sold elsewhere so that you may (or may not) get hooked.

ProFumo Sat 09-Feb-13 07:43:33

Oh and re: projection monsters -
L'air du desert marocain and Leather Oud by Dior and Tom Ford's Tobacco Vanille leave a sillage throughout the house. So do Loretta, Portrait of the Lady, Oud Ispahan and many others.
Oh, and Fracas. <runs>

Yes, I like big perfumes grin
I think it's a personality question too - I'm an extrovert and also like wearing bright red, big jewellery and being noticed and approached.

Fuzzybirds Sat 09-Feb-13 08:03:59

Scarletsalt if you live close enough to get to L'Artisan's covent garden shop, they will fill up a little 4ml travel spray with any of their fragrances for you for £15 (I think they also do this in branches of Harvey Nicks, not sure about other outlets) very helpful and approachable sales assistants there too.

Isabelle, Exclamation gets quite a good write up in the guide, I was most surprised! I used to wear it as a teenager, along with 'So....?' Also most of the perfumes MrsSchadenfreude mentions got very good reviews, including Giorgio.

AwkwardSquad Sat 09-Feb-13 08:48:26

Talking of eighties perfumes, I was remembering a perfume I loved but can't remember the name. So frustrating. It would have been 1985 or 86, I was working in Paris at the time and it was a gift. It came in a clear, narrow triangular bottle - a deco shape to it. It was the essence of Christmas, especially mince pies! Warm, spicy, quite sweet but not overly so... Has anyone any idea what it could have been?

ProFumo Sat 09-Feb-13 09:19:41

Awkward no idea, sorry... Does anyone else recognize this?

I'm trying on Love By Kilian right now. He's clearly a marketing genius, and one of this marketing ploys has been posting openly the posting the formula of his perfumes. So - here is his list of ingredients used in Love.

William I'm very familiar with the smell of formaline but don't get it here. In this perfume, at least the opening, I get the interplay of the sharp/narcotic facets of orange blossom/neroli (almost queasy to me) and a very thick and sweet vanilla-labdanum amber base (so sweet that I wonder whether ethylmaltol was involved). Many perfumery ingredients can have camphoric facets, wonder whether that is what you are smelling. The "hook" in orange blossom is a love/hate thing - when I first smelled it it was nauseating, but I've learned to like it. (Last spring I spent a lot of time under rain-sodden orange trees - I learned what the natural reference smells like and then also sampled the expensive raw materials - naturals and high end orange blossom smell much more refined than the screechy nylon lace that is Armani Code for Woman.) But it might also that you smell something in this that I am anosmic to/ not bothered by. I tend to like herby, camphoraceous and bitter notes in perfume (I adore clary sage and camphoraceous tuberose). This is not hugely different from Seville a l'Aube in fact - sweeter and missing the wax and incense.

Want to take your expertise on raw materials to a different level? Read Essence & Alchemy by Mandy Aftel. It's an easy read, not a chemistry textbook, and after that many mysterious ingredients are old friends. Better yet, you can go to a department store where they sell aromatherapy kits, and sample them to get the reference right. (A perfumer I know got started that way...)

YouOldSlag, your love of citruses (=hesperides) opens up a lot of possibilities on the masculine side. It might be interesting to also sample some hesperides aromatiques (on strip, not skin first - I don't want you to die/ get PTSD!). Some suggestions here, in French, but do not let that bother you. Classic colognes are great, often underrated. Chanel Eau de Cologne, 4711, Guerlain Eau Imperiale... where I live it gets so hot during the summer, these are often the only viable option. I wore O de Lancome a lot as a teenager, it's great too.

ProFumo Sat 09-Feb-13 09:31:17

Sorry - link fail - the alleged formula of Love By Kilian here.

ProFumo Sat 09-Feb-13 10:10:18

Sorry that I'm spamming the thread, but while looking for good descriptions of clary sage, I found this charming 17th century herbal here.
Any lawyers on this thread - check it out ;)

ProFumo Sat 09-Feb-13 10:13:38

My links are hexed today sad - Wild Clary for lawyers.

IsabelleRinging Sat 09-Feb-13 10:17:31

Ah, see, I love big fragrances, but I am quite introverted. For me I think wearing something bold is like living out a fantasy, I can become more confident through it, almost like the power of the fragrance helps me to become that confident person I want to be as I feel I have to live up to my perfume. I don't want to be shy, and fade into the background, so I fight against it, in my head I am a diva!

IsabelleRinging Sat 09-Feb-13 10:19:02

Oud Isaphan is added to the "must smell" list after reading the CandyBoys review of it!

MrsSchadenfreude Sat 09-Feb-13 11:28:50

YouOldSlag, try: Eau d'Hadrien, Les Nuits d'Hadrien and Eau du Sud (all Annick Goutal). For a cheap and cheerful, Fleur d'Oranger at Marks and Sparks. Also M & S, the Lynn Harris cologne is good. My summer holiday perfume is Eau Jeune Eau Fraiche... from the supermarket. grin

I have been out sniffin' this morning. I went into Annick Goutal and sniffed Sables (which I loathed). The woman in the shop suggested I try Duel instead, and I do quite like it, but don't love it, as I do the other Annick Goutals I have (all of the above!). I then went all nostalgic and bought a bottle of Cabochard from a funny little shop near where we live, and got DH a bottle of Carbone by Balmain. I wanted some more of the original Ivoire, but they had sold out. The woman said to keep checking as they would almost certainly have more in. I also had a sniff of Miss Balmain in there, which I used to wear about 100 years ago, and also Fath by Jacques Fath, which was a bit "meh".