Crumpet ceased trading - no refund!!!

(30 Posts)
bigredbook Wed 16-Jan-13 12:16:51

I bought a few things from their online outlet before Christmas which I returned as they did not look the same as they did online. I received some crappy modal scarf in the post this morning from them with a credit note as apparently they have ceased trading and will not be honouring refunds! Is this legal?

I am so pissed off.

stclemens Wed 16-Jan-13 13:09:50

oh crap. I wonder if I can get redress from Paypal at all.

QueenCadbury Wed 16-Jan-13 13:13:54

No idea about the legalities but wtf use is a credit note if they're not trading anymore?

bigredbook Wed 16-Jan-13 13:16:08

The letter says that "a team of angel investors have purchased crumpet, within a new company: crumpet cashmere ltd", you will not experience any change in the manner of the day to day operation yada yada.

They say they do not have to honour the refund owed by "Crumpet England Ltd".

QueenCadbury Wed 16-Jan-13 13:20:54

Maybe look at www.moneysavingexpert.com/ as martin is very good and there may be something on there about what your rights are

JumpHerWho Wed 16-Jan-13 13:58:53

Crumpet have gone under?? shock

joliejolie Wed 16-Jan-13 14:02:49

Now I am a huge Crumpet fan, but I think it's shocking that the website is still taking orders and there is no mention of this anywhere that I can see. There isn't even a change to the returns policy. I placed an order when the sale started, but I'm glad that I loved everything. This would have really p*ssed me off!

MrsCampbellBlack Wed 16-Jan-13 14:16:36

That's dodgy as hell.

I don't rate their quality and had issues with them trying to not give me a refund on a sale item last year. Luckily I got stroppy and started quoting the distance seller stuff and they relented but I was left with a dislike for the company.

bigredbook Wed 16-Jan-13 14:55:42

Well, I guess that as it is a different company there should be no problem with orders placed now so they don't have to say anything on their website - it will only affect orders placed when it was "crumpet england" rather than "crumpet cashmere".

Needless to say I think this is pretty shoddy and I will be spending my voucher on something I don't really want and then never looking at them again.

MrsCampbellBlack Wed 16-Jan-13 15:13:20

Sounds like they've run the company into the ground, started again with a slightly different name which is dodgy as dodgy can be. Bet they've got loads of angry creditors/suppliers too.

fridgepants Wed 16-Jan-13 17:05:45

There was a publishing group which have been doing this and in the process have left contributors out of pocket and a lot of angry folk on Ravelry. It's not illegal I don't think in the same way as trading insolvently, but it's way dodgy.

faustina Wed 16-Jan-13 19:38:48

Mrs CB I had exactly the same issue with Crumpet last year. Bought from sale and they wouldn't accept returns at all which is just not legal in the UK.! Sent off trading standards letter and eventually got a refund but like you it was one of the places I wouldn't buy from after that.

It sounds as if they aren't to be trusted in any way. bigredbook I think you should call trading standards - google them. They were really helpful last year.

Such a shame - it's one of those companies you'd like to buy from as it's uk based and all that

gladyoucame Wed 16-Jan-13 20:00:31

Sob! I bought a scarf in the sale online yesterday after reading mainly good things about them. Now dreading receiving it, wish I'd saved my money

MrsCampbellBlack Wed 16-Jan-13 20:04:41

I'd stop payment with your bank or cc if I were you gladyoucame

joliejolie Wed 16-Jan-13 20:05:25

Don't worry about the scarf as I'm sure you'll love it (they are gorgeous and a bargain in the sale)! Sounds like they have a bit of a scam going on though.

stclemens Fri 18-Jan-13 16:18:16

not even a crappy scarf or credit note for me, just deafening silence. Does anybody know any action I could take?

mysteryfairy Fri 18-Jan-13 16:38:37

If you paid with a credit card you should be able to do a chargeback for goods or services not received - contact your card issuer.

faustina Fri 18-Jan-13 17:54:55

doesn't that credit card thing work if it's more than a certain amount you spent - like over £100?

mysteryfairy Fri 18-Jan-13 18:12:21

you can use chargeback where section 75 does not apply, so for purchases under £100 for example

stclemens Fri 18-Jan-13 18:41:17

I paid with Paypal - does anybody know what the situation would be?

CajaDeLaMemoria Fri 18-Jan-13 18:48:04

Within 45 days you can raise a PayPal claim and they will refund you. You may have to return the items tracked and give PayPal the tracking number.

So is the voucher for the new company? I'd seek advice about that. I thought it had to be clear cut - either the new company is entirely separate, or they are taking over from the old companies obligations. If they gave you a voucher, you may be able to argue they are accepting liability and therefore should refund you.

MaureenShit Fri 18-Jan-13 18:52:07

Wtf is crumpet?

MrsCampbellBlack Fri 18-Jan-13 18:55:48

Company selling cashmere stuff.

stclemens Fri 18-Jan-13 20:04:39

Caja, I returned it, the refund bounced (through Paypal) and now I have no goods and no refund. I'll send Paypal a message and see what they say.

ouryve Fri 18-Jan-13 20:07:34

If they're still operating a live website that's taking payments, contact trading standards, as they are breaking the law if they trade while insolvent.

mysteryfairy Fri 18-Jan-13 20:21:30

How much did you spend?

If it was over £100 which isn't hard with that company I'm wondering if you could go down the chargeback/section 75 route if you funded the PayPal payment with your credit card. I don't think this will work if you paid using a Paypal balance though.

When you say the PayPal refund bounced what actually happened? I think you can go into PayPal and open a case that the goods have not been received. However if the merchant has withdrawn all their funds from PayPal I'm not sure this would get you your money back as I think PayPal normally refund by freezing the funds in the sellers account and then returning them. Not sure if they will make good out of their own coffers if no money left in the sellers PayPal account.

It might be worth posting on the eBay board as there are a lot of people who understand the ins and outs of PayPal and disputing transactions. My understanding is very probably wrong/out of date/incomplete

stclemens Fri 18-Jan-13 20:39:44

there were insufficient funds in Crumpet's account to pay the refund so it didn't go through. Having gone into Paypal this doesn't appear to be covered by the options in the resolution centre sad. I think we need a Crumpet boycott....

sausagetown Sat 19-Jan-13 16:13:35

Me too! I bought a couple of dresses which added up to about £80, had emails to say they'd received them back and would refund me, now have no dresses and no refund, only a credit note. I do think it's good they've made sone effort, but I've bought a dress from somehwhere else now and would obviously rather have the cash back. I paid through Paypal.

faustina Sat 19-Jan-13 17:40:55

sometimes it works if you leave a comment on their fb page or twitter. Not sure if they have a twitter page, but they have a FB one. People should know anyway that they're shits

MarshaBrady Sat 19-Jan-13 17:42:13

How annoying for you!

I still get Crumpet emails as if nothing has changed.

Really bad. I'd avoid them (if I ever bought from them in the first place).

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