what PLANET do the sunday times fashion people live on?

(79 Posts)
BadDog Sun 06-Jan-13 12:58:19

1. the trouser suit is coming back in - I mean - do they not knwo anyone with a proper job for which they have to dress smartly?

2. a hair product kept her styled curls in place for TEN DAYS - ERGHH grosss! wash your hair lady!

DameFannyGallopsBEHINDyou Sun 06-Jan-13 13:09:14

What's not smart about a trouser suit?

BadDog Sun 06-Jan-13 13:24:44

sorry - I mean they were syaing they are coming back in.
ANYONe with a job where they have to dress smartly EmBRACES the trouser suit etc

FrancesFarmer Sun 06-Jan-13 14:26:17

It's the same with most fashion magazines - their idea of what constitutes appropriate workwear is always askew.

I like the Style Magazine but I see it as a foray into a bizarro wonderland rather than a guide to reality!

MaureenShit Sun 06-Jan-13 14:27:28

tbh no shop does good workwear do they? unless you want to spend mega bucks at Jigsaw or wherever, you are left with Next Polyester or Marks obsession with sleeveless dresses in winter.

I find the Style supplement hilarious. Is it not meant to be funny?

Charliefox Sun 06-Jan-13 14:28:04

Does anyone actually pay attention to what's in or out? I would never think, oh, apparently, trouser suits are soooo last season, so I'd better not wear mine.

WipsGlitter Sun 06-Jan-13 14:30:04

The Q&A bit is fab. She is incapable of sticking to the budget people request. She does pick some lovely stuff though.

Arisbottle Sun 06-Jan-13 14:30:19

I have to admit that I do not really wear that many trouser suits and neither do me colleagues. Most of us wear dresses and a jacket or a skirt suit.

Charliefox Sun 06-Jan-13 14:30:34

I always wonder about the m and s sleeveless dresses too. I mean, what the hell do you wear with them? A shirt underneath looks bulky and messy IMO and a jacket over is too formal and starchy. I like Kookai for workwear.

I am so fussy about clothes (fit, cut, colour, texture) that if I were to worry about trends as well, I would never buy anything!

MaureenShit Sun 06-Jan-13 14:32:03

You do look a abit Apprentice in suits all the time too

Arisbottle Sun 06-Jan-13 14:32:23

I don't buy my workwear from Marks but have a few sleeveless dresses which are perfect for under jackets.

You could also wear a cardigan if you wanted to soften the look.

MaureenShit Sun 06-Jan-13 14:32:26

i laughed a LOT at todays wardrobe mistress

the mum uniform - very apt

tethersend Sun 06-Jan-13 15:48:46

Hang on- which product keeps your hair in place for TEN DAYS?

I have no shame, I need to know.

MarshaBrady Sun 06-Jan-13 15:51:05

I like the ST Style. We get it online now which is even faster to scroll through.

I can't get on with the Guardian one at all these days and don't get it, find it a bit drab.

Booyhoo Sun 06-Jan-13 15:58:00

tbh workwear doesn't really change every season the same way fashion does so there isn't really much they can do in the style piece that you wont have seen already. workwear has to be practical and tried and tested lasts because it works.

CambridgeBlue Sun 06-Jan-13 16:54:23

What did they think was a mum uniform Maureen? Was it the same as on here (boot cut jeans/ block heeled boots/ fleece/ tunic etc)?

MaureenShit Sun 06-Jan-13 16:59:28

no the ankleboot skinnny jeans affair

louwn Sun 06-Jan-13 17:04:23

Not everyone wears a trouser suit to work...dress and jacket looks smarter and more stylish in general I think. I feel like a bit of an idiot in a trouser suit for some reason!

I love the ST Style supplement - it is the first thing I read on a Sunday.

It is totally bonkers grin. And I am not terribly interested in fashion. Or in ways of youngifying myself. Or in shoes that are £800+ and have 6+in heels. But what fun!!

I sprayed tea over the magazine at the mum uniform bit... having said that, I crave those ACNE pistol boots blush.

MaureenShit Sun 06-Jan-13 17:06:04

i hatae the ipad app

MaureenShit Sun 06-Jan-13 17:07:15
mckenzie Sun 06-Jan-13 17:10:28

please stop! The newsagent had sold out of the Times today and so had the supermarkets. i haven't had my Style fix and i'm getting twitchy smile

MarshaBrady Sun 06-Jan-13 17:15:53

IPad is ok, prefer paper but dh is quick with the download. I only get it for Style don't even go for ST magazine part anymore.

But can't find the ankle boot bit. Looking again.

Rubbish when they do loads on men's style. Pah

Ah, no, must be original <snob>
Or Isabel Marant ones as soon as I win the lottery

Love my pistols. Dickers have v thin sole, not practical. Pistols are very sturdy.

I do hate all this wanky 'mum uniform' drivel. It's just clothes really isn't it? I'm willing to bet a lot of childless women are wearing skinny jeans and ankle boots too - its winter, what are we expected to wear? Plus fours and gladiator sandals?

As for trousers suits, I work in a very professional environment and I haven't seen any make an appearance. Not even hideous purple and orange Prada ones.

If I wore suits at work, I'd wear trouser suits.
As it is, it's all smart trousers and tops - anything (demure) goes as long as it's washable grin.

Amber, I cannot justify the Pistols, and Dickers are far too high fashion for me. Good to know they are not practical grin.
I have been monitoring ebay obsessively for well-preserved Pistols... ST Style editors would be appalled!!

MaureenShit Sun 06-Jan-13 21:42:30

Where I work trousers suits v practical
Hilarious they think they were ever out

Pinot Mon 07-Jan-13 13:26:51

I think our Mo is the column at the back. That's how I see you in my head. I forget what she's bloody called though - you know the one I mean.

ggirl Mon 07-Jan-13 13:31:08

god yes the fashion bit is so ridiculous ..or do all you Londoners dress like that.

love the ST style mag , loved the bit about cliches in the home ...phew ! none in mine

ggirl Mon 07-Jan-13 13:32:01

mrs mills

she's v sensible lady

Pinot Mon 07-Jan-13 13:53:40

Mrs Mills, that's her! Love it.

gazzalw Mon 07-Jan-13 13:58:10

DW loves Style but laughs (with envy) at the cost of the clothes - after paying all the essentials including food from the joint account monies, she couldn't even afford one of the expensive (yes, I know it's all comparative) items without bankrupting the account for the month.... We have always been Sunday Times readers but I do wonder what % of the readership regularly buys the calibre of clothes they include in Style...

101handbags Mon 07-Jan-13 14:32:07

The style supplement is indeed a hoot & surely not to be taken seriously. I read it on the train & have a good giggle to myself. Mrs Mills' column is long past its sell-by date. But I have to read it every week, I just have to...

wriggletto Mon 07-Jan-13 15:19:04

compare and contrast with the Guardian Saturday magazine fashion double spread - five models of different ages none of which seem to correspond with mine, all wearing strangely shaped orange ponchos and tweed cigarette pants with gold brogues, staring intensely into the middle distance, as if in a police line-up for someone who's just robbed an Oxfam shop.

blueemerald Mon 07-Jan-13 19:34:00

What annoys me about the Guardian fashion line up is yeah sure, they're a variety of ages but still all teeny tiny stick thin. What's the challenge/point there?

LifeofPo Mon 07-Jan-13 19:38:25

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WildThong Mon 07-Jan-13 20:45:01

The 10 day miracle hair product is Show Thermal Protect backed by Tamara Ecclestone, available February, £36. Sunday Times said it was seriously effective. I wo der if it will work on straight hair too?

MaureenShit Mon 07-Jan-13 20:45:52

Nautical. Every spring. Military every autumn.

NEVER. Aviation chic

MaureenShit Mon 07-Jan-13 20:47:06

Like biggles. ;)

LifeofPo Mon 07-Jan-13 20:47:16

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MaureenShit Mon 07-Jan-13 20:47:52

Guardian. Bloody carthorse Morley standing spaffily

LifeofPo Mon 07-Jan-13 20:48:10

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MaureenShit Mon 07-Jan-13 20:48:13

Power plant operative chic. A la Homer.

MaureenShit Mon 07-Jan-13 20:48:33


Tabard chic

LifeofPo Mon 07-Jan-13 20:49:08

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ggirl Mon 07-Jan-13 21:10:38

I think we're due for some Victorian chic , petticoats and cotton embroidered blouses and nighties

Pinot Tue 08-Jan-13 09:26:25

Hope so, ggirl. I've got the arse to fill a bustled skirt hmm

fridgepants Tue 08-Jan-13 14:14:42

Media jobs don't tend to require suits - I honestly would have no idea what I'd have to wear if I crossed over into corporate. These pieces are written by people who can come to work in 'directional' 'pieces' so they won't represent, say, what someoen in a temp job in a fashion-desert town would generally wear (answer: Next from the sales to fit in with dress code that looks cheaper and nastier than less traditionally conservative outfits, particularly if one is busty and 22.)

MaureenShit Tue 08-Jan-13 17:07:13

Christ. You snob!

LifeofPo Tue 08-Jan-13 17:13:29

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alliscalm Tue 08-Jan-13 17:18:18

At least the ST doesn't have Laura Craik or Lisa Armstrong trying to look all moody and allegedly representing normal women while usually wearing £600 shoes. The week when they got up Craik as Alexa Chung looky-likey - hilarious!

GetorfsaMotherfuckingMorrisMan Tue 08-Jan-13 17:25:23

I used to love Lisa Armstrong in Saturday Times mag.

I ewould never wear a trouser suit, personally. Frocks all the way (sleeveless ones as well, a decent fitted cardigan or jacket to go with).

Fashion so DUlL. All repeated. When for the name of arse are maxi dresses going to leave us. They have been a summer staple for years. I blame bloody Sienna Miller.

Yes to nautical, military, colour pop, crayzee shoes this season repeated ad nauseum.

GetorfsaMotherfuckingMorrisMan Tue 08-Jan-13 17:26:48

Trosuer suits remind me of 20 something recruitment consultants with bad mascara.

MaureenShit Tue 08-Jan-13 17:32:13

Hate the word frock.

I work in a portaksbin. It's chic.

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DonaAna Tue 08-Jan-13 17:43:45

Getorf, I believe maxi dresses are only fashionable in the UK (blame the weather) and possibly in Australia (I don't know why - do you?). The recruitment consultant look seems to be coming back, and I can't wait to see blue mascara again...

I think a) magazine editors are truly clueless re: real life workplaces and b) imagine how dull an issue of black and navy and charcoal trouser suits with discreet jewelry would look. They try to offer fantasy and eye candy.

I sort of love the cyclical nature of fashion. It means my handbag from early 90s looks 'directional' again.

MaureenShit Tue 08-Jan-13 17:49:30

I had to wear a maxi skirt to Henley. It was roasting. Why do people wear them ?

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HazeltheMcWitch Tue 08-Jan-13 17:52:30

Oh, I LOVE a good trouser suit from time to time. I am corporate, although at the slightly more creative end.
But when you need to be all power-weidling and serious and arse kickerish , there is nothing that beats stomping about in trouser suit and heels, like some kind of Mary Portas/Christine Lagarde hybrid.

HazeltheMcWitch Tue 08-Jan-13 17:54:02

I am not wearing at trouser suit at the moment, however. I'd be able to spell wielding properly if I were...

GetorfsaMotherfuckingMorrisMan Tue 08-Jan-13 18:39:44

I say frock in RL to annoy dd, she absolutely loathes the word.

It is all a big joke, isn't it?

Trousers suits? Pfft! (We will all be wearing them next year, I guarantee it...)

What's that piece on the back page where they do 'my style' thingy? My sister thought that one was a joke, like Mrs Mills.

I quite like Jess cartner-merely in the guardian magazine, the ladies of varying ages and skin colour do nothing for me though.

My sister

FrancesFarmer Tue 08-Jan-13 20:06:10

Yup, I hate those features where they do outfits for different age groups but they are mostly interchangeable.

It would make more sense to do a series with women of different sizes and shapes. But that would probably be too sensible!

I watch Jess Carter-Morley out of habit but she looks underwhelming most of the time.

HollaAtMeBaby Wed 09-Jan-13 00:16:04

oh god the back page "what are YOU wearing?" feature! My sister says it should be pronounced "what ARE you wearing?!" because the people always look such states...

Scarlet76 Wed 09-Jan-13 06:33:49

The ST style magazine is the first thing I look for when I pick up the paper. But it's light entertainment rather than serious fashion advice.
What are you wearing on the back page always makes me laugh. NOBODY I know ever dresses like that. Tempted to send in a pic of myself - 'here I am in my M&S skinnys, on the school run and no time to brush my hair'

Yes it's a good point that media types don't have to conform like the rest of us. I have a friend at Vogue and she would no more wear a next suit to work than she would bootcut jeans! That being said, neither would I, but the point remains.

Though I will say she dresses like a normal, stylish person. Not at all 'directional'.

Pseudonymity Wed 09-Jan-13 11:40:00

I would love to wear a trouser suit like they do endlessly in the press, but it seems to involve being six feet tall and a rake. It is not a look that works on most people. As it is I've resolved never to work anywhere that would require any kind of suit.

fridgepants Wed 09-Jan-13 14:52:38

"Christ. You snob!"

I'm speaking entirely from experience. I grew up somewhere where the Next sales had queues outside from 4am, as most people were lucky to make £150 a week (myself included - I was a temp) and that doesn't even cover a cheap wardrobe of the kind of clothes admin offices tend to require (the strictest dress codes I've worked with have been when I've been lowest-paid - call centres etc.) It looks fine if you're slender, it looks like crap if you're not an average size, which I'm not.

I always feel like I'm playing Office Job Barbie in a suit, so sex change isn't that far off grin

I don't mind a bit of Next for the kids, but they do have a really special kind of shiny polyester they make suits from that looks unbelievably shit. I think if a suit is going to work it needs to be majority natural fibres!

DonaAna Wed 09-Jan-13 15:28:47

I love 'directional' when it's pointing backwards grin

fridgepants Wed 09-Jan-13 15:33:25

My least favourite 'directional' phrase is when people wear 'a trouser' or 'a red lip'.

Metro does a what are you wearing type thing, all of them are fashion industry types, though - journalists, bloggers, designers of small labels, people who work in boutiques rather than high street stores with a uniform.

grin at Office Job Barbie.
There is a sub set of suit polyester that looks like you could strike a match off it.

I think the coloured trouser (sic) will be the thing for Spring. Possibly at 7/8 length so we can all have frozen ankles. Or should that be ankle.

That was a genuine cross post, promise!

fridgepants Wed 09-Jan-13 15:45:17

I once found an Alexander McQueen suit jacket in Help The Aged for £4.50. It was my interview jacket for years. I never got why someone would bother paying that much for a suit until I realised how well it fitted - it was designed for an actual figure rather than fitting like a school blazer with my norks awkwardly squished underneath.

I went to a temp agency when I was last unemployed and was told that in the City I'd be expected to wear a suit and heels - god knows how much it would cost to get stuff that actually fits me properly if I was doing that every day. I have size 9 feet for a start. I always wanted to get a Bravissimo shirt when I had to wear office-y clothing every day but I couldn't afford it at the time - luckily those shirts that fastened with hooks and eyes were popular then.

MarshaBrady Wed 09-Jan-13 21:00:48

I used to have a Saba (Aus) black suit. My first proper job in London. Argh I hated that job. Marketing something. Haven't had one for over ten years.

The Guardian seems to make everything look the same regardless of what they are wearing. A bit worthy.

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