Please help me find jeans for my lovely 9yr old DD

(118 Posts)
dizzydixies Fri 28-Dec-12 19:36:36

That aren't skinny/super skinny but build for KIDS to wear <sigh> She is tall, she isn't skinny and she shouldn't have to end up harrassed and upset trying on aged 14yr old jeans which barely go on and are 8inches too long at the bottom sad

I eventually got her woman's size 10 out of Debenhams.

She had the most beautiful pair of wide legged dark denim ones from ASDA which she has grown out of. Why doesn't anywhere do something like that anymore - the skinny/super skinny/skinnier than thou look just doesn't suit everyone, bless her.

pinkteddy Fri 28-Dec-12 19:57:38

I'm completely with you on this. I have exactly the same problem with dd. Just had to pay dry cleaners £8 to take up about 6 inches from a pair of trousers! The last pair of jeans we got (not skinny) - which still fit - came from bhs. The website's not great but you might get lucky in store if you've got one near you. If not hopefully others might have ideas!

Roseformeplease England Fri 28-Dec-12 20:02:29

Next do different sizes within the age (So age 9 sm/m/large - or something like that). We buy Boden for my daughter as they have adjustable waistbands so come up large on the waist and then you adjust to fit with elastic inside. Also, just a thought (but expensive) Levi's (which I buy, but I am not growing) have different "shape" fittings. Boden and Levi's are expensive (Levi's much more so) but both have good resale value on eBay so you get something back when she outgrows them.

OddBoots Fri 28-Dec-12 20:03:00

What is her actual waist size and leg length?

Sometimes boys jeans fit some girls better so they may be worth a try?

sausagesandwich34 Fri 28-Dec-12 20:05:00

dd gets boot cut oes from Gap

they are a lovely fit

dizzydixies Fri 28-Dec-12 20:08:45

pinkteddy BHS is where I get her school trousers. Aged 14yrs and then spend money having them taken up too!

roseformeplease Boden sizes are no use at all - the amount of stuff I've sent back is ridiclious. I hadn't thought of Levi's though so thank you! We have 3 DDs of which she is the eldest so by the time they're through all 3 they're not really worth selling on!!

OddBoots - I must measure her. She's tall for her age, the only girl taller than her in the year was kept back a year so is 8 months older. She started off big at 10lb4oz so I never expect her to be in the appropriate size for her age, she never has been grin

DD2 is constantly in boys jeans, her preference and a much better fit. I just want DD1 to actually enjoy choosing her clothes and not be in tears as she's not getting to pick the jeans with the sparkly cherries on the back <sigh>

DD3 is tiny, the only one of my 3 who CAN wear skinny things and, typically, refuses to leave the house in anything other than a dress, I can't win!!!

dizzydixies Fri 28-Dec-12 20:11:41

sausagesandwich it would need to be in the adult store, nothing in GAP Kids fits.

I just cannot understand why people seem determined to put kids in super skinny clothing - what ever happened to comfort hmm

dizzydixies Fri 28-Dec-12 20:12:45

The ones I got for her today were 'animal' ones in Debenhams. Size 10 and rather low on the hip - she keeps trying to pull them up to her waist! The other brand was Mantaray something or other

Kbear Fri 28-Dec-12 20:15:45

Dorothy Perkins do great jeggings (jean leggings), with elasticated waist but with a nice waistband IYKWIM - my dd is 13 and loves them. They do a short leg too. £21. Different colours.

I had/have same trouble getting clothes to fit DD properly - all her friends seem to be exceptionally petite, DD is a size 12.

Kbear Fri 28-Dec-12 20:17:18
OddBoots Fri 28-Dec-12 20:17:21

You might find it easier in the summer when the cropped versions hit the shops again, aged 14 cropped might be ankle length on her.

dizzydixies Fri 28-Dec-12 20:18:28

Hi Kbear smile

DD1 is still only 9, I suppose I was hoping not to have to enter into the world of Dot P, Top shop etc so far. Will have a look though as she can't keep stuffing herself in the ones she has.

Muminwestlondon Fri 28-Dec-12 20:22:03

We got good ones from Vertbaudet (mail order) but that was a few years ago. Gap also do good fits (though in women's section rather than girls) but they are pricey, but seem to last.

Cheesemonkey Fri 28-Dec-12 20:24:49

Biden do girls bootcut jeans and cords, not the cheapest but great quality, wash brilliantly and generously sized.

dizzydixies Fri 28-Dec-12 20:24:56

Are vertbaudet not normally very small made for kids? I only used to order from them when the kids were tiny wee babies

dizzydixies Fri 28-Dec-12 20:25:43

Cheesemonkey - we find the Boden sizes completely off in this house - so much so I refused to pay for returns as I was having to send so much stuff back sad

dizzydixies Fri 28-Dec-12 20:33:15

Waist is 79cm Hips 83 Inside leg 61cm

KateShmate Fri 28-Dec-12 20:33:30

Some lovely Next ones there. Especially 3rd and 4th ones along on the top row - really nice boyfriend fit ones. As a PP said, they often come in different fittings which is handy.

Or these Bluezoo ones?

dizzydixies Fri 28-Dec-12 20:33:47

Not that she has a 'waist' per say although it's starting.

Geeklover Fri 28-Dec-12 20:34:32

Dd is a tall slim but solid 9 year old too and we are having the exact same problem.
I have figured I'm going to have to go into adult sizes for her.
I hadn't thought of Levi's. She has some Boden but they are crops that are a bit long. They actually look nice with boots and tights.

dizzydixies Fri 28-Dec-12 20:34:53

According to Vertbaudet a 13/14yr old girl should have a 61cm waist and boy should have 66cm

She's only 9 sadsadsad

Muminwestlondon Fri 28-Dec-12 20:36:19

There was a Vertbaudet teenage range in those days - not sure if they still do it. I used to go a size up. I always thought the sizing indicated that French kids must be small and skinny as young children and then suddenly become tall around the age of 10 or 11.

dizzydixies Fri 28-Dec-12 20:37:03

Geeklover I haven't seen levis but the animal jeans we got DD today are lovely - random find in Debenhams and cost £22 smile

I was in the Principles Petit section but all rather grown up iyswim?

having a look at those Next ones now

dizzydixies Fri 28-Dec-12 20:38:51

According to the Next site she should either be in Age 16 or 'plus size' 14yrs

imagine being pegged as a 'plus size' when you're 9yrs old FFA angry

QuiteOldGal Fri 28-Dec-12 20:39:30
dizzydixies Fri 28-Dec-12 20:41:51

DD1 aged 9 - 152 cm
DD2 aged 6 - 132 cm
DD3 aged 4 - 107cm

Me aged 36 - 168cm

I'm going to be patted on the head as they walk out the door aren't I?!?

TheSecondComing Fri 28-Dec-12 20:42:26

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OddBoots Fri 28-Dec-12 20:43:25

I really really don't mean to be rude but are you sure you measured right? That waist is 31" so about an adult size 14.

KateShmate Fri 28-Dec-12 20:47:03

I know the Next sizes were smaller, but the 3rd pair across on the top row (from link) had lovely stretchy waistband which would be good, and nice and comfy too! I know that their 'baggy' jeans are very very baggy!

dizzydixies Fri 28-Dec-12 20:47:12

TheSecondComing - as I mentioned earlier she started off at 10lb 4oz. She has never been small. She is an active, healthy, fit 9yr old who is head and shoulders above her peers. She is not skinny by any means but she is not fat. I'd say she carries puppyfat like I did and when I was 12 it all just fell off. We watch what they eat as we're prone to weight gain. They don't get fizzy drinks, an abundance of sweets etc etc She is, however, larger than the average 9yr old. I just don't believe she should be out of kids clothing altogether at the ripe old age of 9 sad

Oddboots - probably not as DH measured her 'waist' so feck knows. The size 10 woman's jeans fit her but need a belt so no, I cannot imagine she is anywhere near to a 14. I'll check again when DD3 has stopped measuring EVERYTHING now the tape measure is out - including the dog grin

MsElleTow Fri 28-Dec-12 20:52:10

I'm really, really sorry but her waist is bigger than mine on those measurements. Are you really sure you have measured her right?

QuiteOldGal Fri 28-Dec-12 20:53:07

Lands End do girls jeans and comfy looking trousers

www.landsend.co.uk/Trousers-Jeans/5944,en_GB,sc.html

dizzydixies Fri 28-Dec-12 20:54:03

MsElleTow - she is a straight up and down 9yr old with no defined 'waist' as such

I'll measure her again when I can but at the moment I don't want to upset her further after our unsuccessful shopping trip sad

TheSecondComing Fri 28-Dec-12 20:54:53

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OddBoots Fri 28-Dec-12 20:56:53

Maybe when you get the chance quietly measure some clothing that fits her instead of measuring her to avoid risking more upset.

dizzydixies Fri 28-Dec-12 21:01:10

Checked out for what exactly? What age is your DD1 if you don't mind me asking?

She has size 4 feet now. Has the majority of her adult teeth and like me I don't think she'll be far off getting her periods (I started mine at 10) Her Dad is 6ft although I'm only 5ft6

She walks with the dog, goes out on her bike all the time, swims, has diving lessons. Drinks only milk, water and a fruit juice for breakfast. I make her packed lunch so know what she's eating during the day.

If you think she's big wait till you hear about DD2 sad she was 11lb 1oz and started off at 59cm long

MsElleTow Fri 28-Dec-12 21:04:48

Dizzy, DS2 started off 3 weeks early at 8lbs and 60cms long. He is now 16 and has size 13feet, his waist is 32 inches with a 35inch inside leg. Going on your measurements his waist is only an inch bigger than your 9yo's!

TheSecondComing Fri 28-Dec-12 21:05:55

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LuluMai Fri 28-Dec-12 21:11:55

How tall is she op? Just trying to see if her waist size is in proportion.

bruffin England Fri 28-Dec-12 21:11:55

She has a 28inch waist. That is not normal size waist for a 9 year old, even if she is tall. That is just 2 inches less than my 6ft ds, and 3 inches more than my 5.6 dd 15.

If that puts it in perspective

bruffin England Fri 28-Dec-12 21:14:23

I put the wrong number in the calculator. She has a bigger waist than my 6ft ds.

dizzydixies Fri 28-Dec-12 21:16:02

At my very slimmest I was a size 12-14 waist and size 16 chest. That was when I was 20yrs old, extremely fit and too skinny for my frame/chest. I don't expect my girls will fall into the 'skinny' category ever. We watch what they eat and how active they are, all 3 of them.

She's not a size 14. The size 10 jeans are slightly too big for her and she'll need to wear a belt.

I'll no longer recount irrelevant birthweights/lengths etc

I'll no longer discuss her on a thread at all - it's now all getting a tad uncomfortable.

Thanks to those who provided places to look for clothing that might fit.

TheSecondComing Fri 28-Dec-12 21:23:19

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Kbear Fri 28-Dec-12 21:37:23

dizzy I have PM'd you

dizzydixies Fri 28-Dec-12 21:40:15

She's straight as a dye tbh, she won't even take a drink of water without asking for it first. She doesn't have money/access to treats or anything at school so I know it's not there. In fact she'll quite often come home with her snack still in her bag as she hasn't felt the need to eat it at school.

Due to the nature of my work they're so sick of the sight of sweet treats it doesn't occur to want them anymore. Her favourite snack is fresh strawberries mixed with grapes and she eats Special K for breakfast (by choice) Now, I'm not saying they don't enjoy sweets/crisps etc but it's not a constant option.

We're less active in the winter as so much of what we do is outdoors and the climate isn't the kindest here (NE Scotland) but she still has all her indoor lessons and out with the dog or the bikes at least once a day. Her jacket is a size 6 woman's North Face one (still too big) so I'm not overly concerned.

I just feel I shouldn't have been posting such personal details about her on a public forum - totally unlike me.

I guess I was just trying to gauge if the frustration I feel towards the shops trying to stuff wee girls into super 'skinny' clothing is just down to me or if it's a general theme. I object to the word 'skinny' as something to aspire to anyway - we're trying to teach them all to be healthy and happy, not 'skinny'

I want ALL three of them to be healthy, happy and dressed in a way that's comfortable - not one that conforms to the latest fashions/trends. She's 9yrs old ffs. She shouldn't have to be looking in the 'divided' section of H&M which frankly only has clothes suitable for girls a LOT older.

She doesn't have a waist. She doesn't have a bust although has begun to develop. She should be lolling about in comfy soft jeans, trainers and hoodies <sigh>

hugoagogo Fri 28-Dec-12 21:42:14

Laradoute seem to have some baggier stretch jeans.

I might go for boy's ones though, if I were you.

TheSecondComing Fri 28-Dec-12 21:45:19

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OddBoots Fri 28-Dec-12 21:45:42

My dd causes clothing problems as even skinnies are too big on her but my ds was rather thicker of build and I totally agree that clothing for kids should be comfy and soft. Hopefully this fashion will soon change.

dizzydixies Fri 28-Dec-12 21:48:08

Thanks hugoagogo - will have a peek. The need for jeans is mainly so that her Dad has something to chuck on her when I'm not here - his ability to dress 3 DDs in a hurry leaves somewhat questionable results grin

TheSecondComing - thank you.

I just hink it's not good when shops like New Look have a dress in both the kids section and the adults section and the woman's size 8 dress is smaller than the aged 14yrs in the kids section. That's not really the kind of message/ideals I want my girls to have.

Belshels Fri 28-Dec-12 21:51:18

Hi Dizzy

I have found H & M jeans very good with different styles and bigger sizes

http://www.hm.com/gb/product/04596?article=04596-A

MsElleTow Fri 28-Dec-12 21:52:48

Dizzy what about something like this?

bruffin England Fri 28-Dec-12 21:54:15

The reason she can get in an adult size 10, is that the animal type jeans are hipsters and they are made to fit across her hips rather than waist. They fit because she has no waist and her hips are relatively small in proportion.
Leggings are far comfier than jeans and fashionable at the moment, cant she wear those.

dizzydixies Fri 28-Dec-12 22:01:13

The mantaray ones are also a size 10 bruffin and yes I'll have a look for some leggings too thank you.

Thank you for your suggestions and links, I'll have a look at them all.

KateShmate Fri 28-Dec-12 22:02:11

Dizzy Is she quite girly or more tomboyish?
Just thinking that skirts and tights/leggings might be another option?
this is lovely and could easily be paired (by DH!) with some simple tights. Has got a stretchy bit at the back, so would be great!
I know you said that she wanted to be comfy - this skirt looks like it would be super comfy!
smile

WineOhWhy Fri 28-Dec-12 22:18:45

To address the issue in your OP, I do not think it is an issue with the comfort of skinny jeans per se. DD1 is 9 and loves skinny jeans and finds them very comfy. I do agree that the label skinny is unhelpful though. Her best friend is the skinniest child I know and finds all trousers with a waistband uncomfortable and lives in leggings. Horses for courses really.

I have pm'd you too smile

Ooh, haven't read the whole thread so some one else may have suggested this but you can get some really nice iron on patches/transfer type things, very girls! Maybe get some jeans that she is comfy in and then pick some of the path things to make them girls.

Not path things to make them girls! Patch things to make them girly!

dizzydixies Fri 28-Dec-12 22:33:41

She's not overly girls if I'm honest but every now and hen a lady likes a sparkle!

I've popped up some photos of her - something I NEVER do. I just want you to see that I'm not blind to her size but I do NOT think that there are health issues here.

The last one is of her with her classmates (both MONTHS and the one on the left wearing high heels) last week getting ready for their school disco a few weeks ago. DD (in the middle) is wearing a BHS aged 12-13yrs dress and size 4 sparkly trainers from primark.

I am biased but I think she's perfect. End of.

dizzydixies Fri 28-Dec-12 22:43:54

She's not overly girly even ffs - shoddy typing after a glass of vino and it's only going to get worse!

Middle kid will only wear boys clothing so getting jeans/trousers for her isn't an issue. Youngest DD is smaller in build AND insists on wearing only dresses. No wonder DH has issues getting them all dressed grin

bruffin England Fri 28-Dec-12 22:44:26

Am i right in thinking she is about 5 ft. Did you have a look at the petite adult range, which should be about the right length.

KateShmate Fri 28-Dec-12 22:45:53

Oh Dizzy please don't feel like you need to justify yourself. FWIW, I had a sneaky look at the pictures and she is beautiful! From the pictures she clearly has nothing wrong wither her!
Also, I think she would look lovely in a pair of jeggings - stretchy skinny jeans with an elasticated type waist (I know that doesn't sound very appealing!) and they are unbelievably comfy! I've got 5 girls under 6 and they all wear jeggings - I find normal jeans to uncomfy for them.
I could also imagine your DD in skinnies with some converse?

TheSecondComing Fri 28-Dec-12 22:46:24

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dizzydixies Fri 28-Dec-12 22:49:44

She has leggings, converse, high tops etc and suits them all KateShmate smile thank you. She wanted to spend some Christmas money on some jeans hence nipping into Debenhams. We got a couple of pairs to try on at home from the ladies section but I just despair at the shops and wondered if it was just me?

Thank you for your kind words, I think she's beautiful but she's my oldest, my first shot at this and worry that I'm blind to any imperfections regards size.

Bruffin - I believe she is 152cm which is a whisper shy of 5ft exactly.

dizzydixies Fri 28-Dec-12 22:53:29

TheSecondComing - you didn't upset me honestly. I just wanted advice regards shops that may still sell items of clothing without the titles 'skinny' and 'super skinny'

I don't come on MN as much as I used to for certain reasons but finding clothes to fit your children is sometimes hard and I sought out help and got sucked in again - shop suggestions should have been enough in this case, she shouldn't have to experience the pain of not fitting to the shops sizes just yet ESP when the clothes aimed at her age group have massive signs marking them 'SKINNY' and 'SUPER SKINNY'

dizzydixies Fri 28-Dec-12 22:54:31

Oh and that's not me that with her in the photo - that was one of the 'flash' dance crew on the South Bank that she joined in with when we were in London in the summer smile

I'm 5ft6, blonde and resemble Kylie obv wink

ClaimedByMe Ghana Fri 28-Dec-12 23:01:04

I think my 9 nearly 10 yo is about the same height as your dd but we have the opposite problem she is like a rake, I cant get leggings/jeans/school trousers to fit her, to fit her in the leg they are way too wide in the waist and many shops stop the adjustable waist after age 10 and she needs an age 12, leggings are always too baggy, she doesnt mind wearing tights and shorts or skirt tho, I shop in the usual next, debs and m&s for her.

You dd is gorgeous and looks happy and healthy smile

KateShmate Fri 28-Dec-12 23:02:01

You are definitely not blind OP, and please don't let anyone tell you otherwise because she is lovely!
I could tell from the pics that she was a fellow Converse lover! grin
So is she still looking for some non-skinnies then?
These H&M ones are pretty cool.
I know she's looking for jeans, but as an alternative, what about some shorts with thick tights underneath and converse? these or these are nice!
Hope it helps OP, I feel her pain - it is extremely annoying when you've got money to buy something specific and can't find it!

dizzydixies Fri 28-Dec-12 23:04:08

Oh no ClaimedbyMe, DH and I were talking about that earlier too, it's so hard isn't it? If it helps I know that Gap do superskinny jeans that my friend's daughter wears and they still hang off her as she's extremely slim too.

DD was at a swim party a few weeks ago and one of her wee best friends looks like she's snap if a breeze went over her - standing next to DD she looked smaller than her wee sister sad It's such a shame isn't it - youthful clothes shopping should be easier than this. Good luck with your search too!

dizzydixies Fri 28-Dec-12 23:07:56

She's got some shorts Kate and I've just managed to get her some new tights as she got too tall for the Next ones she had - she kept trying to tell me they were ok but the crotch was half way up her thighs!!! She has also had a growth spurt shoe size wise so we're off into town AGAIN to get new boots/shoes - I think she's aiming for patterned/coloured DMs and some new high tops - it's too cold for converse up here just now <brrr> but if there are some in the sale I never say never to shoes grin

WandaDoff Fri 28-Dec-12 23:11:07

Primark do great skinny jeans & jeggings in , I think sizes 6 - 20, they also come in 3 lengths.

The short length fits me ok, & I'm under 5ft. I got 4 pairs in there earlier in the week for £7 each smile

ThreeBoostsOneGalaxy Fri 28-Dec-12 23:11:26

I used to have a similar problem with DD and I used to buy her cropped jeans or 3/4 length jeans in a size 2 up from her age.

Now she has changed shape a bit. Aged 8, fits 9-10 jeans with the hems taken up an inch. She is a healthy weight but some of the clothes seem to be for a very slim build.

I have the opposite problem with DS2 and DS3, I have to buy slim fit jeans and even then I have to adjust the waist to make it smaller. The clothing industry seem to think that all boys are of a sturdier build than all girls.

defineme Fri 28-Dec-12 23:11:35

H&M do jeans with a larger fit on their website in the 8-14 range. You have measured her wrong I think. My ds1 is 10, 152 cm, size 5 feet and quite chubby looking at the moment-he's in the age 12 slim jeans from H&M so I'd be surprised if the generous fit ones aren't ok for her.

MsElleTow Fri 28-Dec-12 23:13:32

Dizzy she is lovely, she is very, very pretty.

I hope you find her some jeans that fit her. I agree with you FWIW about what you said about the clothes in New Look for example. I don't understand about the problems you are having buying jeans etc, because I have boys, but I certainly can not see why your DD should be forced into buying jeans in a ladies department. I can not for one minute imagine she is the only one, she obviously doesn't have a weight problem and to me making clothes so hard to get for normal healthy kids is a sure fire way if giving them hang ups about their bodies and weight!

OddBoots Fri 28-Dec-12 23:15:46

Your dd is lovely. smile

pinkteddy Fri 28-Dec-12 23:22:47

dizzy she looks exactly the same shape and size as my dd. We have exactly the same problem. I was a similar shape as a girl - I was probably a year behind her so aged about 10. Part of the problem IMO is that they have no waist and once you get to age 11 and beyond, the clothes have been designed for girls who have hit puberty and therefore have a waist so hence nothing fits!

amck5700 Fri 28-Dec-12 23:32:29

The problem is that she is the height of an older girl but not yet the shape - still straight up and down - the only measuer I would question is the inside leg as that seems quite short based on her height.

I have boys who are both really tall and have yet to get into teenage shape so it's a bit of a struggle - i have found the fashion for the ribbed waist and ankle jeans ideal as it is still comfy but fits better.

I buy mostly from next but it is a hit or a miss in terms of sizes - I'd maybe try a couple of different styles age 11 or 12 plus fit if available - but if you see anything in the boys then go for it - they do nice skinny fit style chinos in different colours but in a plus fit which would be unisex. - My solid 11 year son has these and finds them comfy (he wears age 13 or sometimes 14 and is 5 foot 3)

amck5700 Fri 28-Dec-12 23:40:38

What about something like these - but teamed with a more girly top?

www.next.co.uk/x513778s2#794794x51

www.next.co.uk/x512786s2#843631x51

TenPercenter Fri 28-Dec-12 23:41:48

I have similar problems with dd(9) she is not the standard straight up and down skinny as a rake type, she just lives in leggings, I think trying on jeans that are too small has put her off.

amck5700 Fri 28-Dec-12 23:47:06

or these:
http://www.next.co.uk/x51770s3#777935x51

or these are girls, not plus fit but not tight at the waist

http://www.next.co.uk/x512666s4#148880x51
http://www.next.co.uk/search?w=rib%20waist&af=gendergrinldergirls

amck5700 Fri 28-Dec-12 23:47:47
Startail Sat 29-Dec-12 00:04:50

OP I know the problem only to well.

From 9-11 DD1 was not the slightest of children and she had one pair of Next plus size jeans and one pair of petite size 8 pineapple black trousers both massively shortened and that was it for things that fitted apart from elastic waisted school trousers.

In summer she had age 14 school dresses.

Drove me stark raving mad, she wasn't skinny, but she wasn't very fat either. Had she been adult stuff might have fitted, but as it was nothing did.

Adult tops are cut assuming tits and teen sizes get longer, but no wider. I ended up being grateful she found padded bras more comfortable because that meant at least some adult tops fitted.

Fortunately, she suddenly shot up and now at almost 15 she is and has been for a couple of years a perfectly proportioned size 12.

This means she's two inches taller and two dress sizes smaller than me.
I also suspect she'll end up one bra cup bigger than my weedy B tooenvy

Startail Sat 29-Dec-12 00:07:40

Oh and she has hair that grows to a plait-able length without splitting which I'm really jealous ofgrin

dizzydixies Sat 29-Dec-12 00:11:46

Thanks for the links everyone - will get through them all.

Startail - I think what I object to most is the overwhelming arrogance of the shops. How dare they have clothes for children that young labelled as 'skinny' and 'superskinny' as it it's something to aspire to?

I have 3 daughters. I was made, by family members' to feel like I was fat/unattractive my entire formative years because I was a size 14 angry

My girls will be taught to embrace their health first and their curves second.

If this means I have to trail through every website or every shop to look for clothes that fit and make them feel good about themselves then that's what I'll do.

H&M do a small range, they are hard to find and sell out fast, they are in the age 8+ range. They are a more generous cut with adjustable waistband. I will see if I can find a link.

dizzydixies Sat 29-Dec-12 00:17:03

Oh and I take just as much issue with the shops not having clothing for kids with a slighter build too. It's such an important thing in their formatitive years and pressures added through sodding failures in design/marketing are just plain wrong.

H&M one style - they might have more in store (different style/sale), but they are worth a try. I would order 9-10 for your dd, then roll them up if they are too long!

dizzydixies Sat 29-Dec-12 00:23:11

Taps she wouldn't fit the 9-10, that's the problem I doubt very much the 14+ would fit her.

amck5700 Sat 29-Dec-12 00:30:26

This would look nice with those grey or red chinos

http://www.next.co.uk/x51674s2#149162x51

amck5700 Sat 29-Dec-12 00:30:50

This would look nice with those grey or red chinos

www.next.co.uk/x51674s2#149162x51

Dizzy your dd is virtually the same as mine! As per my pm, it is so hard for them especially when all they want to do is be the same as their friends!!

dizzydixies Sat 29-Dec-12 00:37:21

I'm fortunate enough in that she isn't a 'sheep' in terms of look. She goes into the hairdressers and asks for exactly what she wants after flicking through the books etc In terms of clothing she's only just beginning to tell me what she likes/dislikes where as DD2 and DD3 have very definite ideas of what they will and won't wear. I think that's another reason why when she says she'd like to have a pair of jeans I want her to have them.

Once we try these ones on tomorrow with belt/shoes hopefully we'll have a pair we can keep. If not we've to do battle with the shoes in town anyway so I can have a look in some of the shops you guys have linked to, thanks again.

And I'll be taking the photos down too. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't seeing the wee one through rose tinted glasses. My gorgeous, happy, perfect, healthy oldest girl smile

LuluMai Sat 29-Dec-12 00:43:55

The style is called skinny, it's not the size of the wearer they're referring to! Other styles are slim fit, wide legged etc. They're just descriptive.

La Redoute also worth a look. Might be worth ordering a catalogue because they did have jeans for different shapes - it has been a while since I got a catalogue - but they have lots of different brands too & you can get discount/free delivery codes.

dizzydixies Sat 29-Dec-12 00:47:15

And if the style was called 'fatty'? LuluMai would that be ok? I don't think of 'skinny' as something my children should aspire to be and right at this moment I have a 9yr old girl who thinks there is something wrong with her because she doesn't fall into this 'skinny' names category hmm

I'm not going to change or even influence the fashion world, I am however entirles to disapprove of the way they are marketing their clothing lines aimed at CHILDREN.

exexpat Sat 29-Dec-12 00:47:32

Dizzy, my DD has just turned 10 and sounds very similar to your DD - big from birth, tallest in the class (I think she's a centimetre or two taller than your DD at the moment) has started hitting puberty so first signs of breastbuds etc but no waist yet. She has also inherited my, ahem, sturdy legs (muscular calves, chunky thighs - no one in my family is ever going to be a supermodel) so it is always a struggle finding jeans/trousers that fit when everywhere just does super-skinny.

She has now had several pairs of jeggings from H&M children's range (she's in age 13-14, I think) - they are very comfy, look like jeans but unfortunately not as sturdy so tend to get ripped when she's climbing things. Apart from that, we recently got her a couple of pairs of stretch cords from M&S's teenage 'angel' range, which are lovely.

We also now look at adult size 8/10 in places like Primark, Top Shop, New Look etc. She has a pair of purple skinny jeans from Dorothy Perkins which fit well because they have a lot of stretch in them. Sadly I think it's just a question of trial and error and trying a lot of things on, because sizing and cut varies massively even within one shop.

exexpat Sat 29-Dec-12 00:50:38
dizzydixies Sat 29-Dec-12 00:52:27

exexpat thank you - they do indeed sound very similar. I've just discovered Angel at M&S online tonight and will be having a look tomorrow in Dot P. I've also ordered some stuff from landsend for her tonight too smile

amck5700 Sat 29-Dec-12 00:58:57

I think what Lula mai is saying is that the name skinny as applied to to the jeans is meant to denote the style not the fit - hence my son has skinny chinos in a plus fit. I know that is not always easy for kids to understand and the label of skinny is a bit misleading but is it trying to refer to the fact that they are tight round the legs - we would have called them drainpipes in my day. The fashion is probably not for everyone but I have seen a lot of non skinny kids in skinny style and it does suit as many of them as it does the overly slim child - who actually can look a bit too "skinny" in them.

amck5700 Sat 29-Dec-12 01:00:01

Good luck on your shopping trip - take a tape measure with you and measure some before sending her in to try them if you can.

Exepat - my dd is the same as yours (& dizzy's). Big from birth etc, she is size 5-6 in shoes already, hitting puberty etc

dizzydixies Sat 29-Dec-12 14:31:52

Thank you again for the helpful comments, I've now taken off the photos of DD and won't be starting a thread again with any of her personal details on it. To those of you making suggestions thank you, I'll follow them all up and for those of us with children less 'easy' to buy for best of luck!

MrsSchadenfreude Sat 29-Dec-12 14:43:21

My DD was exactly the same! Try Land's End or M & S for jeans if Gap is no good. (Gap used to do a slightly wider fitting/cut in children's jeans.) We also had some success with M & S adult jeans, and TK Maxx also came up trumps. My DD is now 14, extremely sporty and muscular, and has a great figure.

dizzydixies Sat 29-Dec-12 14:44:26

Thank you MrsS

MrsSchadenfreude Sat 29-Dec-12 14:58:31

You're welcome. I remember how frustrating it was, trying to find clothes to fit her. One thing I did was measure her, and then measure waists of jeans in TK Maxx so that she did try on a pile of jeans that would fit, rather than the depressing cycle of trying on loads of stuff that wouldn't go anywhere near (and the subsequent tears). She is now 5'9" and a curvy size 10 - still wearing a pair of size 10 cargo pants that she had at age 10!

rainbowinthesky Sat 29-Dec-12 15:04:59

We have the opposite problem. DD is 9 and cant wear jeans as they are all too big. She lives in leggings from anything from 5-6 to 7-8. PJs are very difficult and we get boys range with string that can be tied or safety pin bottoms.
Jeans which can be adjusted on the inside are pretty uncomfortable as she usually would need to smallest setting so leaving a lot of elastic sticking out.

I have always been hmm about only being able to buy "skinny" clothing for dd as I too hate these sort of labels for children. I always tell her she is slim not skinny as skinny implies a healthy problem of a different sort. Also
fed up of dinner ladies trying to get her to "eat up" and eat beyond her comfort. I have had to complain twice to ensure bloody lunch pack monitors leave her alone.

LuluMai Sat 29-Dec-12 15:14:57

thanks amc- that is what I meant. I have a size 18 pair of skinny jeans and DS, a narrow six year old, also has a pair of skinny jeans. It's simply the style, not the size. "Super skinny" simply means they are even tighter than skinny fit.

Dizzy, sounds like your daughter is a bit like my son. Big at birth, always on the 90+ percentile, tallest in his class - always clothes that were 3-5 years bigger than his age. I found fitting him for trousers very difficult. We finally took him to M+S and bought him adult jeans by waist and inside leg measurement (29 inside leg for those who are interested). He's 11 and his shoes are a size 8 shock. Is he on the 'large' side? Yes a little but I've noticed of late that he's trimming down, but it's more a case of him growing into his size than actually losing weight (if that makes sense). I think that for a while he was just out of proportion and I would guess that what's happening with your daughter. Different bits growing at different rates. Adjustable waists were my friends!! M+S go to quite large sizes with adjustable waists. My daughter is the opposite, tall and skinny so I still love adjustable waists as to get the length I end up with stuff that's too wide around the waist. We love leggings for her as well - with a funky top and a pair of great boots or converses. I second the jeggings. The look of 'skinny' jeans but with more 'give'. It's awful dragging them round and trying things on that don't fit isn't it? But once you find somewhere with the things she likes that fit it'll be worthi it! Good luck.

Gingersnap88 Sat 29-Dec-12 18:56:32

Dizzy I think you sound like a wonderful mum! I completely agree with you with regards to children's clothing. I hate the way they are forced to grow up so quickly and how they can't just wear children's clothes. I don't want my DD looking like a mini adult or teenager!

I had this problem in my youth. I remember going clothes shopping with my grandmother, and loving all the jeans in GAP kids as they had lots of embroidery in them / pretty colours. They only have in "slim" fit back then, which I couldn't get into even the biggest size (although the plain jeans were fine). I remember being devastated, crying and assuming that I must just be fat. My grandmother used to get so annoyed with the shop! I wasn't fat, but I was never a skinny child (all dropped off in my teens) but I always struggled with my body image after that. That's why it's so wonderful to hear how you're combating this with your own daughters (I'm sure I will have this issue with DD when she is older).

Maybe you should design a clothes line? grin

Good luck with trousers smile

dizzydixies Sat 29-Dec-12 19:59:23

Thanks guys. We got her some new flowery Dr Martens today (that hurt the purse) and some purple shorts from Zara (which we've still to try on)

She also wore the 'animal' jeans which she thought felt 'weird' lol I made her wear them with a belt as they are very definitely hipsters which she's not used to.

When we nipped into my friend's boutique she tried on a couple of nice dresses - none were quite right for her but my friend did give me the website for them so I'm going on to have a look, apparently you can buy them individually at much less than what we would pay in the shops.

If it's any use I'll link it - then watch it have an influx of MNers looking for clothes for their hard to dress DDs grin

MsElleTow Sat 29-Dec-12 21:05:07

Dizzy the flowery DrMartens sound amazing. I bet they'd look really cool with dresses, skirts and shorts with opaques! I think your bank balance is going to get hit hard!

I hope you manage to find her some jeans too. Ultra soft jeggings are really comfy if you can find any of those.

exexpat Sat 29-Dec-12 21:18:05

My DD would be very jealous of the flowery DMs. And the purple shorts. Sounds like she's going to be the coolest-looking 9yo around.

dizzydixies Sun 30-Dec-12 00:15:56

I'M jealous of the flowery DMs & pink ribbon laces <sigh>

steppemum Netherlands Sun 30-Dec-12 00:37:46

sorry, haven't read whole thread, but just to reassure you, my ds is just 10 and wears age 13-14 clothes. He cannot be descibed as anything other than slim, but he is tall, head and shoulders above his class.

I recently bought him a sweatshirt which was small adult mens
If they are tall, then they can easily be in size way over age. My friend's dd is same height as my ds and wears age 14 school skirt. She is not overweight at all.

dizzydixies Sun 30-Dec-12 17:19:48

Thank you, she has preened about in her new DMs, leggings and a tartan skater dress all day smile

dizzydixies Tue 01-Jan-13 12:01:23

And brought in the new year in purple shorts from Zara, black opaques, DM boots and a sequined vest top and denim shirt.

I think we've got it sussed now grin

Littlechangeforthis Tue 01-Jan-13 17:31:52

Dizzy there is no way DD1 is fat!

We are friends on fb.. (NC at the moment)

I was a bit shocked to hear that she is only 9 though! I thought she was 12 maybe? She is a beautiful stylish young lady and you should be proud of her.

Hope you get the clothes sorted for her soon.

Xx

dizzydixies Tue 01-Jan-13 21:56:06

Thanks Littlechange smile

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