Where do all the stylist women in London get their padded winter coats with real fur around the hood from????

(59 Posts)
mistakeallround Sun 25-Nov-12 17:47:54

As the title says.... where can i get one of these lovely padded coats from? they are to the knee, slightly padded, real fur round collar and hood and bloody gorgeous....the coat looks expensive but not Moncler ...can anyone help me ???

mistakeallround Sun 25-Nov-12 19:19:01

anyone please

waltermittymistletoe Sun 25-Nov-12 19:23:19

Don't wear real fur.

<helpful>

You're not likely to get much help looking for real fur.

Anyway, faux fur is nicer.

Jajas Sun 25-Nov-12 19:25:12

Refuse to help if it's real fur you're after hmm

mellen Sun 25-Nov-12 19:25:59

Why do you want a coat with real fur on it?

Napapijri has a down coat with fur hood, they say it's ethically farmed fox or something but still - YUCK!!! shock

mistakeallround Sun 25-Nov-12 19:33:07

Well look real ... maybe the fur was faux....but loads of beautiful stylish padded coats but can't see anything like them anywhere ?

AmberLeaf Sun 25-Nov-12 19:34:51

Ive seen some on Ebay.

Rosa Sun 25-Nov-12 19:34:52

Try anything Italian ..we have loads here , some of the fake fur is very very realistic, you can only tell when it rains or snows on it as it goes droopy !

AmberLeaf Sun 25-Nov-12 19:35:20

Manufacturers not people selling their old stuff!

VivaLeBeaver Sun 25-Nov-12 19:36:29

Uniqlo?

bonzo77 Sun 25-Nov-12 19:37:49

Expensive boutiquey shops. I can think of 3 locally that have them. The fur looks real but might just be higher quality fake. My mum has one and the label says "raccoon". I'm concerned now that I've read a thread on mn about raccoon dogs being skinned alive for their coats. angry. Anyway, I see the appeal but wouldn't get one myself. Check labels though as some might be pretend fur.

If a lot of women are wearing them in London, they may not be designer.

Have you tried Zara? They have a long down jacket with "fur" hood....

Zara

Rosa - I've just come back from my annual work trip to Milan, Brescia, and Serravalle. Down jackets are a staple uniform to the Italian lady!

Everyone wearing them now, except for me - mine was left in the car, it was too hot and I was in a tee shirt! (and getting bemused looks!)

I picked up a gorgeous one from Ralph Lauren outlets in Metzingen for €65! Try Bicester op?

FrankincenseWippery Sun 25-Nov-12 19:53:41

I got mine (not real fur) from G Star Raw. It's deliciously warm and I absolutely love it. Cost £200.

FrankincenseWippery Sun 25-Nov-12 19:56:58

Sorry, 185 but here it is.

bigredbook Sun 25-Nov-12 20:01:12

Try Joseph or Max Mara

FloralWellies Sun 25-Nov-12 20:01:15

La Redoute

(What all the stylish French Women are wearing round my way!!)

freakazoidroid Sun 25-Nov-12 20:02:01

I love the coats with real fur too , I'd love one

Fillybuster Sun 25-Nov-12 20:02:02

Mango. Absolutely every bloody Hampstead school gates mum is wearing a Mango coat. And its fake fur.

probably this one Filly?

Knew either Zara or Mango would be well worn around London.

Sometimes I pine for my lunchtime shopping trips around Oxford Street.

But I'm now a lot better off, working on an industrial estate in the backside of nowhere!

MadAboutHotChoc Sun 25-Nov-12 20:13:38

I have one - bought from TK Maxx, not real fur around the hood though.

I hope you go for faux fur.

sansucre Sun 25-Nov-12 22:49:49

They're most probably either Canada Goose or Woolrich ones.

GlitKnit Sun 25-Nov-12 22:55:27

Lands end.

Silibilimili Sun 25-Nov-12 23:07:17

I got mine years ago from good old m&s. it's faux fir.

Mominatrix Sun 25-Nov-12 23:22:03

Was going to say Canada goose, but someone beat me to it.

Astaril Mon 26-Nov-12 04:08:08

One of the sadest things I ever saw was on a documentary a couple of years ago called "Kill it, Skin it, Wear it". It showed footage of a fox in China that had been skinned alive and thrown on a pile left to die, the little thing was bearly alive all sinew and veins showing but it looked up into the camera and tried to press its nose up against the lense. It haunts me to this day. It showed many other terrible things but this is the one that tore my heart open.

What really bothered me is how people can be so detatched from an animal with the same feelings and emotions as a pet dog suffering this horrendous cruelty? It is actually quite worryingly psychopathic when you really think about it. Take someone like Jlo, who openly and uncaringly wears real fur. People have critised her for it and told her why she shouldn't wear it, she knows that foxes are skinned alive etc yet she still wears it. It is that detatchment from the very real suffering and pain that 20 different foxes/dogs have had to endure to make that pretty coat that is very disturbing. Possesing the ability to shut your mind off to that is worrying and says something very bad about you as a person. ie: Serious. Emotional. Problems. There has to be some kind of messed up psychopathy with these individuals.

It's like... "I know what I am doing is wrong/cruel/evil.. but I don't care, I don't feel any remorse" This is what disturbs me most about it.

Anyway, don't wear real fur. you know it's wrong deep down inside. Don't be detached,... hear their whimpering cries! because doing so makes you a better, healthier person.

p.s. You can not yet buy a fur coat which has good animal welfare conditions. As the documentary explained. All fur pelts go to one great big fur sorting warehouse, to be sorted by shade. You can never know where your fur comes from.

All the above is aside from the problems when pelts come from endagered animals in the wild too. heavy sigh all this destruction and pain for a flipping coat.

IAmSoFuckingRock Mon 26-Nov-12 04:14:23

fur- faux or real is hideous looking. i've never been able to understand the attraction. it all looks cheap- yes even the real stuff.

I saw your OP & was going to say Moncler.

Don't know - I have a Carl Donoghue Shearling.

Padded, I'd go Moncler.

MrsCampbellBlack Mon 26-Nov-12 05:10:30

Burberry do a padded coat with fur trim but its similar price to Moncler

Astaril - I'm generally a bit hard-arsed about fur as a meat eating leather wearer, but that's made me think twice - I'll look it up. Thanks.

noddyholder Mon 26-Nov-12 08:01:32

Moncleur so expensive but lovely.tried on a friends Canada goose if ever a warm coat could look glam thatvwas it!

Bonsoir Mon 26-Nov-12 09:57:09

Moncler
Woolrich
Blauer
Canada Goose
Aigle

Just a bit about 'ethical' fur labelling

lurkingaround Mon 26-Nov-12 10:28:01

Did you see the mention of Astrakhan on this board lately? I hadn't known exactly what it was until then. Worth a thread oof its own really. I will link again: here.

There is no need.

lurkingaround Mon 26-Nov-12 10:28:52

of not oof, obviously. Sheesh, read before posting.

toomuchmonthatendofthemoney Mon 26-Nov-12 10:41:43

Please don't go for real fur, Astraril has said it all already.

I like Hobbs Chamrousse coat with detachable hood. They are 20% off till today too.
hobbs

bishboschone Mon 26-Nov-12 11:49:35

Astaril... That has made my blood run cold .. I have never been able to watch the footage but I know it goes on. I agree totally that the men / women ? Doing it must be disturbed to be able to do that to a living creature . Why the feck can't they kill them humanely just before they do it ..( if they must tear its fur from its body .. .bastards !

slug Mon 26-Nov-12 13:47:11

You know, some fur is ethical.

Back when I was a student in the <<cough>> 80's, one of the ways I made extra money was by trapping possums for fur. I would get $10 a pelt and it was quite a common thing for my peers to do.

Before you get horrified at why and how I could do something like that, can I put some background in here to give you a perspective. I come from New Zealand, a country with (almost) no native mammals. It's known for it's unique birdlife and unique forests. The possum was imported into New Zealand and, having no predators, has caused absolute devastation. It eats bird eggs, eats the growing tips of the native tree ferns and spreads bovine TB. It's hard to describe just what a ecological disaster it caused. The possums have proved very difficult to eradicate, the govt have tried poison bait drops, always controversial, and paid people to trap possums. As trappers for fur we were, is a small way, helping to keep the numbers down to a reasonable number.

However, later in the 80's as the anti fur movement gained ground and started spreading it's propaganda, the demand for fur dropped and the numbers of possums soared. Quite a few bird species hovered on the verge of extinction until the govt stepped in with the poison bait drops. As I explained to DH the first time he witnessed the NZ roads, Kiwi's see it as their patriotic duty to run over any possum they see.

I feel no shame wearing possum fur clothes. The possum - merino knitwear especially is the softest warmest thing you will ever wear.

IAmSoFuckingRock Mon 26-Nov-12 13:51:54

slug did you kill them humanely?

bishboschone Mon 26-Nov-12 15:29:27

Yeah that's the point .. Just kill the feckers humanely .

waltermittymistletoe Mon 26-Nov-12 15:40:18

Just become you think possum are a nuisance doesn't mean it's ethical.

How did you get the fur?

Astaril Mon 26-Nov-12 16:49:21

Justreadthefuckingwords- Thanks, thats brilliant! I am also, like you, meat eating and leather wearing by the way. I do source free range and only eat lamb in restaurants where I can not be sure but I am certainly not anti farming animals, nor against some poor eskimo who needs to keep warm and makes a fur coat. I am anti fur trade because it really is genuine cruelty. It can not be compared in any way to farming meat or using leather. It is in a different league and will always be as it can never be regulated. The craziest thing is that high quality fake fur is amazing so it is just so unessesary.

bishboschone- The equipment needed to kill them without ruining the pelt ie: gas, electrocution is expensive so in China they just don't bother with it.

Slug- If the possums were caught in the wild using a cage type trap and killed quickly there is nothing wrong with it exactly, it is the larger problem of regulating a fur trade. How can you know which pelts are humanly caught, kept and killed and which ones are not?

Farming Fur is illegal in Britain and there are restrictions on what can be imported, sadly this doesn't go far enough. The only people who can stop this trade gaining even more ground are the fashion designers, celebrities and models willing to be brave enough to say NO and they will if people would just bloody well STOP BUYING IT!

Kill It, Skin It, Wear It

BBC article

The Independent

slug Mon 26-Nov-12 17:13:30

So what do you propose waltermittymiseltoe? Let several species of birds go extinct instead? there are shades of grey in this argument.

FWIW We used large live catch cages and a friend, who had a licence, did the gassing.

bishboschone Mon 26-Nov-12 17:30:01

I know because they are heartless bastards !!!

waltermittymistletoe Mon 26-Nov-12 18:42:45

I don't propose you do anything.

I was saying that an overpopulation of the animal doesn't necessarily make it ethical because it's about the method used to skin the animal.

So you gassed them. One of the more humane ways. Fair enough. I was only asking! wink

Was going to say just what sansucre did smile

50shades1 Mon 26-Nov-12 21:30:33

I have the Aigle Cuckmere coat which is duckdown with detachable real fur collar, costs about £260. It's lovely and warm and I think always looks smart compared to other padded coats.

monkeysmama Mon 26-Nov-12 22:27:13

I have the Barbour Arctic parka. It's very warm. Dp has a Woolrich one that has lasted years and looks like new.

Btw Canada Goose coats use real fur. One of my team members has just bought a parka. It was €600. It had a raccoon fur hood.

Apologies, I meant coyote fur, not raccoon.

There is a plastic Playmobil raccoon on my coffee table! grin

PretzelTime Tue 27-Nov-12 20:29:00

Holy shit Astaril, those poor foxes. Just reading your decription of the video made me upset sad

Love the look of real fur though, but considering the cruelty behind it it's not worth it. If one really wants real fur, there are plenty of vintage items out there, right?

herethereandeverywhere Wed 28-Nov-12 08:14:39

How can we be sure that the leather we wear is from ethical sources? If the clothes are not made in the UK they won't be farmed to UK/EU standards.

And what about the down element of the lovely warm padded jackets? Do the geese just freely avail themselves of it?

And what about the production of artifical fibres we all wear? Are they all vegan-approved or made from petro-chemical industry sources? How many animals die horrible slow and painful deaths as a result of damage from the petro-chemical industry each year?

I'm against un-necessary cruelty to any animal but I'm a meat-eating leather wearer and I struggle to understand why fur is so "special" in this regard.

PretzelTime Wed 28-Nov-12 10:06:49

Well, in my opinion...
Meat = something a majority of people need to eat (I know vegans disagree, but I think only few people can thrive on veg diets)
Leather = Ideally from animals which have been used as food. Also very long-lasting, biodegradable material.
Fur= Made mostly from non-edible animals, luxury good, fake fur exists.

herethereandeverywhere Wed 28-Nov-12 10:23:52

Fake fur made from plastic made from petro-chemical industry = not animal friendly or cruelty free.

In the same way we can't be sure fur is ethically farmed, we can't be sure the meat from the leather you wear was ever eaten.

If I eat the mink/fox/raccoon dog can I wear it then? Happy to give it a go TBH. What if the carcass is use in animal feed (eg petfood)? That ok?

PretzelTime Wed 28-Nov-12 10:43:19

herethereandeverywhere, you are welcome to try, but apparantly foxes etc taste awful!

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