Budding perfumistas walk this way- Part 2 of the Worst Perfumes ever

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shoeprincess2 Tue 13-Nov-12 13:23:54

As the first thread is nearly full, I've set up Part 2

shoeprincess2 Tue 13-Nov-12 17:46:52


YouOldSlag Tue 13-Nov-12 17:50:41

Can anyone make any suggestions for affordable perfumes that don't smell cheap? I've found a few great ones but I really can't let myself enjoy expensive perfumes due to budget. I do however, use thrift techniques such as ebay and selling perfumes I don't like.

I daren't even smell anything I can't afford in case I get a fanatical glint in my eye and end up bankrupting my children.

I think 'Angel' is by far the worst perfume I have ever had the misfortune to apply my nose to. It's foul.

I am seriously considering buying a man's scent next, as I seem to prefer more masculine and far less 'fussy' smells than most perfumes.

Slag - I had a quick sniff at the new Lynn Harris (iirc) ones in M&S at the weekend and they seemed v good for the price.

Mimulet Tue 13-Nov-12 17:56:12

Its really a question of taste isnt it, i quite like Angel. You might like to try Red Door. Think its Estee Lauder, not sure.

YouOldSlag Tue 13-Nov-12 18:00:00

Red Door hates me.

I have had some success with Gres Cabotine, Ambre de Cabochard, and a fabulous Jesus del Pozo Ambar. I am convinced that you can smell nice without smelling cheap.

Remus- some of the M and S ones are very good, I was in there today. Let us not speak of the dreadful Florentyna, however...

BOFingSanta Tue 13-Nov-12 18:01:36

I might give YSL Paris a try, as I like rose, and I see that around quite cheaply now. I'm hankering after Chanel No 22 now though, and Amouage Jubilation XXV, and Tom Ford's Tuscan Leather, and and and...so many lovely EXPENSIVE scents I've found from the last thread sad

I have always loved Angel, though I accept it's not very sophisticated. I treated myself to a bottle on my birthday in the summer, and it kind of makes me a bit upset that so many people here seem to find it vile sad. It's sort of taken some of the pleasure out of it for me, and I've not worn it much lately.

YouOldSlag Tue 13-Nov-12 18:09:38

Red Door Is Elizabeth Arden. Some of hers are good, especially Fifth Avenue. I'm afraid I'm not a fan of Angel at all or anything too cocoa or vanilla or gourmand.

pocketandsweet Tue 13-Nov-12 18:12:53

I'm looking for some recommendations... Generally I like what I would call green fresh smells. I wear Chanel no. 19, Calandre, O de Lancôme, and most days Eau Vitaminee by Biotherm ( which I LOVE but last two seconds). Non - green fresh perfumes I like are Gianfranco Ferre ( bottle with glass drop attached.... Irritatingly all Ferre fragrances have nearly the same name), the original Halston, and Aromatics Elixir and Wrappings by Clinique. I dislike Coco Mademoiselle, Tresor and Obsession deeply.

Anyone have any inspired suggestions of unusual fragrances I might try ( a little birthday money burning a hole in my wallet). Also to recap for late comers where are the best places to buy genuine decants if you are UK based. I need to read all of the original thread ( I have dipped in and out) but I need my kids to sleep more to give me a chance. thanks

BOFingSanta Tue 13-Nov-12 18:14:01

I don't like an obvious vanilla either, YouOldSlag, but I somehow don't notice it in Angel- or maybe I'm just too entranced by the chocolate grin.

It's funny, isn't it? Smells are so so personal. I love roses, but hate peach. I love chocolate, but I can't bear anything too sweet.

YouOldSlag Tue 13-Nov-12 18:14:27

Have you tried Chanel Cristalle? it's my absolute favourite. I'm going on ebay on Boxing Day to buy everyone's leftovers.

shoeprincess2 Tue 13-Nov-12 18:15:47

pocketandsweet- try lessenteurs, scent and sensibility and ebay for UK based decants. I don't know of any others in the UK.

YouOldSlag Tue 13-Nov-12 18:16:28

BOF- yes indeed. I loved Lily of the Valley until I smelt Splendour (Elizabeth Arden) and realise that fragrance had made it way too big and ruined it for me.
I do like Obsession, but only one squirt and about an hour before I leave the house, otherwise it makes people faint in my wake.

BOFingSanta Tue 13-Nov-12 18:16:52

I've got a sample of that, yes! I must give it another chance- it didn't blow me away, but I'll have another go. What are the notes in it, would you say?

pocketandsweet Tue 13-Nov-12 18:17:07

Funny I have Cristalle on right wrist and Cristalle Eau Vert on my left. I like them both so much.

YouOldSlag Tue 13-Nov-12 18:17:32

sorry BOF, what's your sample of?

YouOldSlag Tue 13-Nov-12 18:18:37

pocket- yes eau verte is lovely, like a bunch of freshly picked tulips.

pocketandsweet Tue 13-Nov-12 18:19:17

I will have a lovely bottle of no 19 to eBay ( my very nice MIL accidentally bought by mistake instead of the ) ... I already have enough No 19 so I would rather sell it and buy something new

BOFingSanta Tue 13-Nov-12 18:19:20

Chanel Cristalle, I meant is the sample.

YouOldSlag Tue 13-Nov-12 18:21:01

Cristalle is divine. I get green notes, lemon, subtle Lily of the Valley, it's just a dream.

TheLightPassenger Tue 13-Nov-12 18:22:39

I love Cristalle, it's crisp and stylish, in a no nonsense sort of way. That shilpa shetty one that was cheap a year or two back in home and bargain was pretty bogging really. but Britney Spears' curious was surprisingly good blush

Bof - I used to like Opium, but people at my old work all slagged it off, so left me feeling meh about it.

harbingerofdoom Tue 13-Nov-12 18:22:53

I too love Jesus del Pozo Ambar,YouOld Slag but it last about 5 minutes on me.
How long does it last on you (just curious)?

Tuscan Leather is amazing and I am completely in love with it - but there is absolutely no way I could justify spending even half that much. sad

BOFingSanta Tue 13-Nov-12 18:31:17

I know, Remus! I have loved trying inexpensive samples after the last thread, but I fear it has ruined me for affordable fragrances. All the ones I really fell for are ££££s.

pocketandsweet Tue 13-Nov-12 18:32:55

There seem to be lots of niche leather type smells but what about green fresh ones. I would love to find something unusual.

FellatioNelson Tue 13-Nov-12 18:34:12

I love Cristalle. I love almost all Chanel fragrances in fact. I'm currently on the lookout for something new and different but I takes me aaaaaaaages to find anything I really think is worth spending the money on. I'm very fussy and I dislike so many.

YouOldSlag Tue 13-Nov-12 18:34:54

harbinger- it last for ages on me. it's one of my favourite inexpensive scents- gorgeous sharp oranges and amber and spice. Perfect for winter. Does not smell remotely cheap.

YouOldSlag Tue 13-Nov-12 18:36:27

*I'm very fussy and I dislike so many*- that's half the fun isn't it? picking from millions until you get that thunderbolt. I love the whole Quest.

YouOldSlag Tue 13-Nov-12 18:38:13

pocket and sweet- Gres Cabotine is green and fresh and not very "High Street". It's quite alarmingly pungent and green when first applied but when it settles its dreamy.

harbingerofdoom Tue 13-Nov-12 18:38:37

I was given a bottle last month as I really liked it in the shop but didn't realise that my skin gobbles it up grin. I'll have to spray it on clothes/hair instead.

FellatioNelson Tue 13-Nov-12 18:38:53

Yes true! Although I always come out of duty free smelling like a right old dog's dinner and I make myself so sick of it I can't face buying anything at all. grin

I am quite fancying a splurge on Amouage Gold. Anyone know that?

harbingerofdoom Tue 13-Nov-12 18:41:44

Come to think of it several perfumes just disappear on me. Does anyone know why? Or how to wear them apart from clothes/hair.

YouOldSlag Tue 13-Nov-12 18:42:19

There is a poster who has Amouage Gold that she might be able to sell you. I can't remember her name but she had loads and was asking what to do with them. You could do a MN search on Amouage?

harbinger- which scent did your skin gobble up?

TerrorNotSoFrightened Tue 13-Nov-12 18:42:36

I loved manifesto by Isabella Rossellini, it's been discontinued though sad
Do any of you remember smelling it? What kind of thing would be similar?

YouOldSlag Tue 13-Nov-12 18:43:08

There is a theory that if you can't smell a scent on you then it means others can and it really suits you, but I don't know if that's bolleaux or not.

pocketandsweet Tue 13-Nov-12 18:43:51

I've not heard of the Jesus del Pozo Ambar. Sounds interesting? Also trying to find a perfume that smells of real orange blossom
/ bergamot flowers ( although will have to wear when my husband's away because he is smell sensitive in the extreme and would probably complain loudly)

YouOldSlag Tue 13-Nov-12 18:44:43

pocket- jesus del pozo ambar is a mere 7.95 for 30ml on ebay and on Cheap Smells (awful name, great site)

harbingerofdoom Tue 13-Nov-12 18:45:09

The two that spring to mind are Jesus del Pozo Ambar and L'instant Guerlain-both gone within 10-30 minutes.

YouOldSlag Tue 13-Nov-12 18:46:59

harbinger- JDP lasts a while on me. Maybe it's just one of those things? Cabotine doesn't last long on me so I do hair and clothes with that.

pocketandsweet Tue 13-Nov-12 18:47:05

The Cristalle Eau vert sort of disappears on me but I just love it. I will check out the Cabotine- thanks

harbingerofdoom Tue 13-Nov-12 18:47:23

Not sure about that theory hmm. That's the perception of others and not the wearer IYSWIM.

pocketandsweet Tue 13-Nov-12 18:50:23

I remember Manifesto . I had a big sample and almost bought a bottle. It had a lot of basil in it as I remember. In the end I didn't buy because although I liked it I realised that what I really wanted was to BE Isabella Rossellini and that was unlikely to happen smile

YouOldSlag Tue 13-Nov-12 18:51:21

I'm expressing it clumsily harbinger. What I heard was that if a scent really suits you, it kind of blends in with you so that you can't smell it anymore. However, others still can. I don't know if I believe it, but I've heard the theory several times.

it was probably invented by perfume manufacturers though!

Loobylou222 Tue 13-Nov-12 18:52:53

Lou Lou and Eden are by far the worst IMO. I work in the perfume industry (well I work in the perfume shop! On mat leave at the moment though) we have a 'bible' which we looked in when we were looking for perfumes with certain notes Etc.
in there is a perfume called poopoopidoo.
I kid you not.......

harbingerofdoom Tue 13-Nov-12 18:55:24

I see what you mean YOS. It's an interesting idea but I'm not sure if it can ever be proven as everybody has a different sense of smell.
I always thought that my skin was too acid/alkali and killed it off.

BOFingSanta Tue 13-Nov-12 18:59:04

It's an interesting theory. I might start a thread in Chat and garner some wider opinions.

harbingerofdoom Tue 13-Nov-12 18:59:39

Good idea BOF

ThatsNice Tue 13-Nov-12 19:02:46

You lot are ruining my bank balance, lol! That's a sample if cristalle and no 19 on order now too blush

ethelb Tue 13-Nov-12 19:06:14

Fellatio Chanel sensuelle allure is divine. I always get comments. Even walking down the street. And i promise I am not wearing too much!

harbingerofdoom Tue 13-Nov-12 19:06:34

If I wear Angel,Lolita Lempika or (in summer) Artemesia I can smell them,I suspect everybody else can too.......

mignonette Tue 13-Nov-12 19:06:37

YouOldSlag I have the Cabotine too. I love it for crisp sunny days whether they be cold or warm. I'm very influenced by the weather and occasion in my daily choices although I have my perennials.

I saw Prada Infusion de Fleur d'Oranger on sale for £19:99 at Savers discount toiletries chain store. That certainly doesn't look or smell cheap.

Superdrug often has Vol De Nuit and other Guerlain scents at remarkably low prices.

Debenhams has a discount table with reduced perfumes and sometimes you can get good ones there.

Marks & Spencers new beauty ranges stocks their own bespoke Miller Harris perfume and I have heard good things about it. You can also buy 5ml samples of high end niche scents from Les Senteurs.com for £5 and because they are so concentrated, they last quite some time.

coffeeinbed Tue 13-Nov-12 19:08:33

M&S now carry Fragonard Fleur d'Oranger. Sounds like what you're loooking for.
22 quid, quite reasonable.

harbingerofdoom Tue 13-Nov-12 19:08:47

All of my Les Senteurs sample lasted well but one gave me a rash. sad

BOFingSanta Tue 13-Nov-12 19:09:11

Here is the Chat thread to test the theory- hopefully I won't get shouted at for venturing such frippery outside this section grin

I'm not great at doing OPs actually, so I don't know how many takers we will get.

pocketandsweet Tue 13-Nov-12 19:09:42

Vol de Nuit at SUPERDRUG?!! ( passes out) Really??? When and where ( always have wanted to try since reading Luca Turin).

coffeeinbed Tue 13-Nov-12 19:12:03

Don't know about that theory, but whenever someone says "Oh, that smells nice" first thing on my mind is "Oh bugger, I must reek of it"

LtheWife Tue 13-Nov-12 19:13:22

I'm the one with a cupboard full of Amouage that I don't know what to do with. If you do fancy that splurge on Gold FellatioNelson, feel free to drop me a PM as I'm getting rid at reasonable prices.

mignonette Tue 13-Nov-12 19:15:22

Fragonard! That is a reputable house. I have seen the smallest size of Vol de Nuit at Superdrug several times over the last few years. Always on the bottom shelf tucked away with similar classic perfumes. They have had the original Chloe by Chloe scent also and last year I bought a large tube of the eponymous body lotion by Celine.

Am trying to think of the other scents I have seen there- I know you can get Shalimar/Opium at really good prices there from time to time, you just have to keep an eye out.

FellatioNelson Tue 13-Nov-12 19:15:40

I can't - I live abroad and there is no postal service as such! Besides, I live where they invented the stuff!

FellatioNelson Tue 13-Nov-12 19:16:25

but you should sell it easily on ebay. Used perfumes go a storm on there.

LtheWife Tue 13-Nov-12 19:26:33

Interesting place to live FN, DH did a few events out there for Amouage. Tried for two years to sell my stash of mostly sealed bottles on eBay but hardly any interest. I'm beginning to think maybe I was pricing it too cheap and making people think they were fakes.

Looking for a few suggestions of what samples to try next. Trying to move away from mainstream scents and towards something a little more complex. Most recent purchases that I like are Prada Infusion d'Iris and Acqua di Parma Magnolia Nobile. I think they're taking me in the right direction and I do enjoy wearing them, but I'm still searching for something to really wow me if anyone has any suggestions.

ThatsNice Tue 13-Nov-12 19:46:26

Does anyone know of any UK vendors selling samples or decants of sensuelle allure?

YouOldSlag Tue 13-Nov-12 19:57:22

mignonette- The original Chloe, which I understand is considered a classic, smellls like peach talc on me. I was v disappointed. Now that really is an affordable classic scent.

YouOldSlag Tue 13-Nov-12 19:58:48

Lthewife- ah yes, it was indeed you with the covetable stash of Amouage! smile sorry if I referred to you impersonally as "poster on the other thread".

anniewoo Tue 13-Nov-12 22:06:59

Pocketandsweet- try a spray of Annick Goutal's Ninfeo Meo. Very green. In HOF

DonaAna Tue 13-Nov-12 22:07:26

Thanks for the new thread! (Old still here.)
Sampling is the cheap way to enjoy expensive perfumes. Samples and decants are inexpensive and allow one to have a varied perfume wardrobe. I sometimes make a joint order with friends (free shipping) and then we divide them up.

Had a lovely night out. Went to Sephora and two gorgeous perfume shops, toyed with No 19 Poudre and Keiko Mecheri's Canyon Dreams and thought about buying Seville a l'Aube. Bought nothing - yet.

DonaAna Tue 13-Nov-12 22:14:09

Lthewife, lots of potential Amouage buyers on the comments section of Bois de Jasmin's blog! Worth checking!
In a cloud of Ninfeo Mio...

DonaAna Tue 13-Nov-12 22:19:13

Allure Sensuelle is a mainstream Chanel, saw it in Sephora.

CointreauVersial Tue 13-Nov-12 23:32:17

Aha! Found you.

I've just placed another order with Surrender to Chance, having collected another shortlist of perfumes you lot have persuaded me to try......

Hermessence Ambre Narguile
Guerlain Jicky
Jean Desprez Bal a Versailles (I think I'll hate it, but couldn't resist)
L'Artisan Premier Figuier (fancied a bit of fig)
Chanel Coromandel (I love this, so have splashed out on a whole 10ml decant)

Today I'm giving Chanel Bois des Iles another try. I'm really not keen on the powdery sandalwood topnotes, but it improves a little after time.

DonaAna Wed 14-Nov-12 06:09:32

Cointreau almost all sandalwood in perfumery is synthetic now and some of those just make my stomach churn (smells like newborn poo to me).
The exception is Tauer's Miriam. I like all other woods but the creaminess of sandalwood is not my thing.

Another way of making perfumes affordable is splitting bottles. This thread might have enough lovers of Coromandel or Tuscan Leather to make it work. For most people, 10-30 ml of one perfume is more than enough.

Should I list links to niche perfume houses from where you can directly order samples? For me, for a long time now it has been about the journey, not the destination.

Finally, some of the classics have been altered and cheapened almost beyond recognition - that may apply to some of the things you find at discounters. I stiil recommend reading The Snob: Perfume or Luca Turin's guide - you'll get dozens of must-try ideas from them...

For me, the cheapest really good perfumes are some masculines like Yatagan or Antaeus. Yves Rocher do decent quality inexpensive stuff, but none of it is really me. I've given up and buy what I really love - often a sample size is enough but I also use duty frees and sometimes support my favorite perfume stores too. I buy nice clothes and makeup and shoes - why should I scrimp on perfume?

Read perfume blogs - some of them organize bottle sales and swaps. If you get a few 'fume friends, you can swap samples (send someone here everything that makes you go yeugggh - tastes are very individual and you might get something interesting in return).

DonaAna Wed 14-Nov-12 08:25:25

Back from my morning run, wearing Ninfeo Mio. A lovely fresh fig. I am usually not fond of fruity scents, but this is not cloying and it definitely sparkles. It's refreshing like a shower of summer rain (and the bottle is very pretty too).

Smelled two other runners / dog walkers who wore something exquisite. A man draped in L'air du desert marocain (I love it how ordinary Italians wear niche scents - Tauers are easy to find here) and a woman wearing something really lovely that I couldn't recognize. Should have stopped her and asked what it was.

I went to a film festival yesterday and recognized a few perfumes along the route: an older lady wearing Fracas (very common in Italy) and a doll-like old lady with reed thing childish white legs and a geisha-like made-up white face with red lips wearing Teint de Neige. She felt like something directly out of a Wong Karwai film.

I went to two very good perfume stores yesterday. I wanted to sample Canyon Dreams by Keiko Mecheri, but had already some No 19 Poudre on my wrist (lovely, but quite fleeting and I missed the more tart bite of the original). I wanted to buy a full bottle of Seville a l'aube, but the only available saleslady was explaining alternatives in blushers and it seemed to take all night (she explained how to avoid "l'effetto bambola", the doll effect - the Teint de Neige lady should have listened...

shoeprincess2 Wed 14-Nov-12 08:59:02

Dona- yes to putting some links on here to niche perfume houses. It would be nice to order some samples direct.

DonaAna Wed 14-Nov-12 09:36:15

If you are new to quality perfumes, I have some suggestions where to start out.

1. Experience classy craftsmanship
Chanel Les Exclusifs boutique perfumes (at Chanel boutiques and biggest department stores)
Hermes Jardins perfumes (department stores) and Hermessences (Hermes boutiques)
Tauer perfumes (at Les Senteurs or Scent and Sensibility or directly from the house)

2. Easy to love but a bit different from mainstream schlock
L'Artisan Parfumeur
Annick Goutal

3. Cheap and chic
Parfums de Nicolai (cheap samples from Parfumeria Neroli)

Want to order perfume samples from a sample providers? Best sources:
UK-based: Les Senteurs and Scent and Sensibility; Escentual sometimes sells perfume samples.
EU based (no import duties to UK): Alla Violetta, First in Fragrance, Parfümeria Neroli
US-based (risk of import duties with big orders): Surrender to Chance and Luckyscent.
My favorites: Alla Violetta, Parfumeria Neroli, Surrender to Chance.

Buy perfume samples directly from perfume houses:
L'Artisan Parfumeur
Etat Libre d'Orange
Histoires de Parfums
Le Labo
Les Parfums de Rosine
Ormonde Jayne
Olfactive Studio
Parfum d'Empire
YS Uzac

My personal favorites among these are Histoires de Parfums, Olfactive Studio, Puredistance, Tauer and YS Uzac.

DonaAna Wed 14-Nov-12 09:38:17

Sorry about typos etc. Hope this list keeps you going for some time! wink

DonaAna Wed 14-Nov-12 09:51:01

Forgot a link to Heeley. I can really recommend them - stylish, transparent, modern.
And Maison Kurkdjian - drop-dead-sexy and the sample set is great value.

ThatsNice Wed 14-Nov-12 09:56:18

Thank you DonaAna smile I love reading your descriptions of fragrances! I read thd link to the ninfeo mio and have sourced a 1ml decant to sample. It sounds delicious smile

Haberdashery Wed 14-Nov-12 10:05:20

I love the sound of Ninfeo Mio. Definitely one for my list.

kiwigirl42 Wed 14-Nov-12 10:21:20

Hi guys!

BOFingSanta don't get down about people's opinions about Angel - its one of the world's best selling perfumes so there are a LOT of people who love it, including me (I went through about 4 bottles in a row of it so don't wear it at present as have moved on but still appreciate it).
I think people only really mind when its sprayed on really heavily but that would go for any perfume.
I like original Poison but boy, can really remember people walking round in a purple, overwhelming cloud of it in the '80's which was horrible.

so wear it and enjoy it!

I've been looking at perfume oils on www.etsy.com (great site, sort of handmade version of ebay)
They are really inexpensive and you can mix and match to make different fragrances. I'm going to get some and tinker with them

SorrelForbes Wed 14-Nov-12 14:26:54

Oh dear, I've just ordered another load of samples. This is becoming as expensive as bra shopping grin.

coffeeinbed Wed 14-Nov-12 14:35:54

But it's so much easier than bra hunting! grin
Mind you my current "back size down cup size up" mantra has been serving me well.
Thanks for that!

YouOldSlag Wed 14-Nov-12 15:50:34

I've just tried a sample of Alien by Thierry Mugler. I ordered it online and it arrived today.

Very interesting, very strong, keeps changing

It's growing on me. I think I like it.

DonaAna Wed 14-Nov-12 16:25:47

Sorrel it may be too late for you to back off - perfumes are quite addictive wink

I caved in and bought a bottle of No. 19 EdP. I realized I cannot go to have a vacation without it. No 19 isn't the easiest perfume, as people often perceive the galbanum as unfriendly. But I love how the strict and tailored outer structure slowly reveals a full-blooded opulent heart. Wearing No. 19 feels like wearing a tailored suit with seamed stockings. The profumeria next door also has Seville a l'Aube - maybe I'll get that later.

YouOldSlag I have had a sample of Alien on my desk for weeks now - have been too afraid to try it wink

Kiwi I have nothing against Angel and might get a small bottle of the EdT at some point. But I also like Poison and Amarige...

Badvocsanta Wed 14-Nov-12 16:32:46

Youoldslag..have you tried cinnabar by Estée Lauder?
I also love obsession (buy ine get me free in Argos of all places ATM!)
I have asked for some cashmere by next for Xmas blush it's cheap and smells nice and not too heavy for everyday wear.
I have worn opium in the past too.
I am nit overly find of floral perfumes (but love roses) and tend to stick to musk/powdery perfume.
Have you tried sun moon stars by lagerfeld?
That's also a nice one.

Badvocsanta Wed 14-Nov-12 16:33:43

Doña ana - I wore amarige for ages in my early 20a...happy days smile

YouOldSlag Wed 14-Nov-12 17:11:58

Badvoc- yes funnily enough I tried Cinnabar in the Perfume Shop yesterday. It was rank- it smelt like old gone off eau de cologne.

Yes, I like Obsession, but limit to one squirt or everybody faints.

I am thinking of trying Sun Moon Stars but Fragrantica tells me there are peachy notes in it and I am so off them! I am open to persuasion if you can convince me it's not too peachy?

DonaAna- Alien is v strong indeed but I like the amber in it. I find the fragrance a bit aggressive otherwise. I probably won't buy a whole bottle after this sample but I don't dislike it.

kiwigirl42 Wed 14-Nov-12 17:30:01

YouOldSlag I got an Alien Essence Absolue sample off ebay and really didn't like it - I was sure I would from the notes.

YouOldSlag Wed 14-Nov-12 17:33:20

kiwi- yes it's very in your face. I'll wear it round the house but I don't think I will unleash it on the public. I sought it out because of the amber notes.

flybynight Wed 14-Nov-12 17:37:18

Do you ladies mind me asking, has anyone ever done a (paid for) consultation at Roja Dove Haute Perfumerie in Harrods? It's £75 to help you find your perfect perfume.

I'm thinking of asking for a consultation for Christmas now that my MIL has hijacked Chanel No19. I can't have my children saying I smell like Granny again! I've wearing no19 since I was 15, so I'm feeling a bit precious about it...

Badvocsanta Wed 14-Nov-12 17:42:07

I don't think it's too peachy at all...if anything I would describe it s powdery..
Have you ever tried mitsuko?

TerrorNotSoFrightened Wed 14-Nov-12 17:56:08

I had a wee nosy round the village shop today and found a bottle of the perfume I bought with my first ever wage, (£45 per week on yts scheme)
Rafinee...one sniff took me right back to 1996.

YouOldSlag Wed 14-Nov-12 18:30:13

Badvoc- you're talking me round! I tried SMS in the 90s and liked it but don't trust my taste back then. I remember thinking at the time it smelt like that lovely Monsoon fragrance with the pointy hat on. I loved that. maybe I will re-love SMS. It's certainly affordable in my local Bodycare!

Badvocsanta Wed 14-Nov-12 18:32:07

I get lots of positive comments when I wear it smile
From both men and women.
Out of interest, did you think cinnabar was a bit...clove-y?

YouOldSlag Wed 14-Nov-12 18:36:52

Yes, clovey and um, like a perfume that's gone off a long time ago. I gave it a chance as some perfumes do smell like that at first spray, but two hours later, it still smelt wrong and bad. I was hoping to like it.

Now I'm grown up I want something with a bit of muscle instead of airy light florals. I am also restricted on budget and prefer a nice bottle I can use liberally.

PS YY to Rafinee! a drugstore classic.

Badvocsanta Wed 14-Nov-12 18:38:26

Def SMS then!

YouOldSlag Wed 14-Nov-12 18:40:49

SMS it is. It will be mine by the time the week is out! Thanks Badvoc!

DonaAna Wed 14-Nov-12 19:12:25

Flybynight I don't live in the UK but a Roja Dove Haute Parfumerie consultation sounds lovely. Go for it! Silences by Jacomo might be worth a try if you love Chanel No. 19.

The free/budget options: submit a question here or play with this program. Many have found a trip to Les Senteurs also very useful.

If you want to enjoy the journey, you might just want to sample perfumes that are labeled "green" or have galbanum in them. (Surrender to Chance does some sample packs).

MrsSchadenfreude Wed 14-Nov-12 19:30:00

I am so cross that M & S are stocking Fragonard! Their guest soaps were a staple gift of mine from Paris! I'll have to find something else to bring people back now. sad

SrirachaGirl Wed 14-Nov-12 19:37:30

I got a sample of Alien this week. It made me feel so sick I couldn't even look at the packaging again without retching. Another one that disagreed with me was Vera Wang Princess Night. Sickly sweet.

I'm really enjoying a Chanel one at the moment that's called Eau Tendre (or something like that...not home to check). It's soft without being overly sweet... I like most of their scents though so mo surprise.

mignonette Wed 14-Nov-12 20:00:15

I have a little miniature of 'Faconnable' by Fragonard that I had forgotten about. Will try it out tomorrow.

I love the scent of Nuxe 'Huile Prodigieuse'. If somebody can replicate that in a scent I would be one happy female.

coffeeinbed Wed 14-Nov-12 20:09:30

Mignonette, they did.
Nuxe have brought it out as parfum.

mignonette Wed 14-Nov-12 20:11:37

Oh wow Coffeeinbed

There's my Christmas gift sorted then grin. I love Nuxe.

flybynight Wed 14-Nov-12 20:25:29

Thank you so much DonaAna. I went straight to Surrender by Chance and ordered up a load of samples. How exciting! I've concentrated on galbanum ones, as you suggested.

DonaAna Wed 14-Nov-12 20:46:47

Great Flybynight- and smell them with an open mind. No. 19 is one of the greats, not easy to match. You may or may not like Bandit. And you might also enjoy classic chypres.

Here is an article about the Nuxe perfume.

FuckingWonderwoman Wed 14-Nov-12 22:00:53

Mignonette - it smells wonderful and is about 45 euros for a large bottle in pharmacies.

DonaAna Thu 15-Nov-12 09:25:56

Since some of you are transitioning from occasional recreational users to real addicts, Crystal Flacon is a great site for affordable decants. Requires patience and searching but quite a few UK/EU-based sellers out there. Recommended.

Another day with Chanel No. 19, I simply love it so much.

MrsHavisham Thu 15-Nov-12 10:22:59

A while ago, someone posted a link to a great site that sold perfume oils that were very similar to designer perfumes. I've now lost the link, does anyone remember pleeeeeease?

kiwigirl42 Thu 15-Nov-12 11:44:46

Morning all smile

I had a lovely answer back from www.surrendertochance.com regarding the perfume sample they sent me (Etro Heliotrope) that smelt off to me - I wanted them to check their bottle just in case.
They have assured my that their bottle is just as it should be so I tried my sample on my skin. Still not nice on me - I'm so glad I tried a sample of this rather than buying a whole bottle. if anything, I can smell incense rather than the expected sweet almonds
They refunded my cost despite me not asking for it. They have gone over and above with customer service so highly recommended.

I scrubbed off the above and have Lipstick Rose mixed with Teint de Neige on. I like Lipstick Rose more and more but it is quite linear, not developing into much.
I bought some samples off ebay this morning (or rather DH's paypal did <cough>):

*Naughty Alice*: black rose, violet, ylang-ylang and musk.

*Prada Candy*: musks in the top, a sensual balsamic vanillic accord of benzoin in the heart and sweet modern caramel in the base of the fragrance.

Shalimar Initial (just cause I've never tried it despite always having a bottle of full fat Shalimar in the house!): Starting from citruses, the composition adds zest of bergamot and orange. Rose flowers and jasmine enjoy embrace of woody accords of vetiver and patchouli, while oriental notes of vanilla, white musk and luscious tonka give seductive warmth to the whole composition. Green notes provide a fresher tone to the composition.

*YSL Belle d'Opium*: (love full fat Opium, again never tried this):
op notes: mandarin, Casablanca lily, gardenia, jasmine

Heart: incense, peach, white pepper, tobacco, hookah accord, fruity notes

Base: amber, sandalwood, patchouli, smoky notes

so that should keep me smelling good for a while wink

BOFingSanta Thu 15-Nov-12 12:10:22

Does anybody know if there is a store in London which sells the Chanel Les Exclusifs range at all?

kiwigirl42 Thu 15-Nov-12 12:14:49

Apparently the Chanel Boutique on Sloane Street and Selfridges has them. I imagine Harrods also?

ThatsNice Thu 15-Nov-12 12:25:06

My sample of Chanel No 19 arrived today. Slightly disappointed with the powdery smell it has (as does No 5) that I'm not keen on. I am warming more to it the longer I'm wearing it. Hoping it will be a 'grower' on me :s

BOFingSanta Thu 15-Nov-12 12:46:21

I phoned Selfridges to check, and they do both Coromandel and no.22, which are the two contenders for the grand Christmas Splurge, so I'm happy. I'll be in London in a couple of weeks for an afternoon, so the question now is will I be able to resist opening the bottle? grin

DonaAna Thu 15-Nov-12 12:58:40

BOF you might get a decant of Coromandel from here and then get 22 for Christmas?

BOFingSanta Thu 15-Nov-12 13:06:26

Ooh, what a nice idea! Thanks DonaAna.

mignonette Thu 15-Nov-12 16:04:45

here is a lovely Christmas idea from Penhaligons. The bottles can even be taken out of their coffret and tied onto a Christmas tree for an special treat.

kiwigirl42 Thu 15-Nov-12 16:18:47

Do you know, I've never smelt Penhaglion perfume - just always assumed it was a bit old lady bluebell crap if you know what I mean.
Has anyone tried any of the range? I like the description of this one

mignonette Thu 15-Nov-12 16:31:20

I really like Penhaligons. After visiting the Cambridge branch after a trip to the Botanic Gardens, I found out the manager was the daughter of the Emeritus professor of the Botany Dept and we had a lovely chat about the plants used in the fragrances and the origins of the scent names. A more cerebral way of buying!

I have the Violetta, the Endymion and Bluebell; the latter reputed to be Kate Moss's favourite scent if you care about her sartorial taste that is smile..

They are pretty modern in their formulation but the packaging is traditional albeit extremely beautiful. I keep them boxed in a wooden cupboard like all my scents though so the bottle is a little wasted on me.

I tried Chanel Coromandel again recently (John Lewis I think) - it's really growing on me, and i can still smell it on my scarf which is lovely

pocketandsweet Thu 15-Nov-12 16:42:44

I have a bottle of Bluebell but I have kind of gone off it.... I bought it when I was pregnant so I suppose hormones change etc and now I never wear it. Might eBay it ( my six year old dd loves it though. On me not her I hasten to add). Both dds (6 and 3) are noses in training and their favourite thing is o be allowed access to smelling all the "perfumes"

kiwigirl42 Thu 15-Nov-12 16:42:56

mig I will have to search them out.

I've just bought a sample of Jo Malone Rosewater and Vanilla off good old ebay as it sounds RIGHT up my alley.

mignonette Thu 15-Nov-12 16:45:05

I don't have an issue with allowing a little child to have a dab of Mum's (or dads) perfumes. It's how you explain what they are for that is important. Wonder if your DD has a sublimal attachment to 'Bluebell' because of when you wore it, Pocket?

mignonette Thu 15-Nov-12 16:46:39

I have always adored Vanilla, Kiwi. And Jo Malone scents have such integrity. They are not formulations via committee like so many other scents.

pocketandsweet Thu 15-Nov-12 16:53:04

Maybe mignonette.... But it might be the bottle too! Very blue and pretty. I do let them have a dab occasionally.

Anyone here a fan of violet.... Looking for recommendations ?

shoeprincess2 Thu 15-Nov-12 16:56:23

kiwigirl If you like your sample of Naughty Alice, I have half a bottle-ish left and matching body cream, if you want it? It's not really me, so would be happy to send it to you. Free, of course.

shoeprincess2 Thu 15-Nov-12 17:04:18

Pocketandsweet- Violet Blonde (Tom Ford); Balenciaga; Agent Provocateur Maitresse. I believe Annick Goutal La Violette is nice, but haven't tested it myself. Also Pentachord White is supposed to be a non twee violet (DonaAna has mentioned that one).

Kenzo Flower smells like Parma Violets and is rather nice - it's a bit too sweet for me these days but I used to really like it and if you like violet, it's worth a sniff. Westwood's Naughty Alice is also violet-esque iirc.

kiwigirl42 Thu 15-Nov-12 17:06:52

shoeprincess2 that is so kind of you. Will be in touch when sample arrives and will find something in exchange for you also

pocketandsweet there are a few violet fans on here, including me. I'm keen on Lipstick Rose by Malle at present - violets and roses

Dona linked to a good violet page which I can't find but there is lots in the comments on this page. Lots

Tom Ford has a few violets - Black Violet and Violet Blonde.
If you search for violet on www.basenotes.com, a really good perfume forum you will hit paydirt!

www.surrendertochance.com, a perfume sample site lists these as having perfume notes:

Agent Provocateur Maitresse
Borsari Violetta di Parma
Caron N'aimez Que Moi
Caron Violette Precieuse
CB I Hate perfume Violet Empire Water Perfume
Frederic Malle Lipstick
Fresh Violette
Guerlain Apres L'Ondee EDT
L'Artisan Verte Violette
Les Nez The Unicorn Spell
Maison Berdoues Violette De Toulouse Parfum
Serge Lutens Bois de Violette
Thierry Mugler Angel Violette
Tom Ford Private Blend Black Violet
Van Cleef & Arpels Feerie

Read more: surrendertochance.com/violet-a-comprehensive-niche-unique-violet-sampler-15-samples/#ixzz2CJOxHa00
Follow us: @surrendertochan on Twitter | surrendertochance on Facebook

Let me know what you come up with!

mignonette Thu 15-Nov-12 17:07:01

Guerlain's make up is scented with Violet, Pocket especially their 'Les Meteorites' face powder/blush pearls. They are just delicious and old-time alluring to apply and wear.

kiwigirl42 Thu 15-Nov-12 17:12:34

I've just realised that its Yardley I was thinking of as being a bit bleuggh, not Penhaglion, which I've never smelled!.
I seem to have thought they were one and the same!

BOFingSanta Thu 15-Nov-12 17:14:15

I'm hearing good things about the new Lyn Harris collection for good old M&S, especially La Poudrée and La Rose. I'm going to go and have a sniff tomorrow. She's a respected perfumier, and uses quality ingredients. The bottles look very nice too. For £25 for 50ml, it's very reasonable indeed.

kiwigirl42 Thu 15-Nov-12 17:19:25

I don't think the new perfumes are in every M&S - it tells you on their site which shops have been upgraded. I'm keen to try a shop with these perfumes also!

pocketandsweet Thu 15-Nov-12 17:21:00

MY irritating M& S doesn't seem to have them. AT least the two times I have dragged my three year old quickly around. I would very much like to hear what others think of them .

pocketandsweet Thu 15-Nov-12 17:22:24

Report back those of you who have a decent M & S... I would like to know what the Eau de Cologne smells like as well ( which is apparently with the men's fragrances )

BOFingSanta Thu 15-Nov-12 17:25:42

Here's one of the reviews- I shall report back myself as soon as I get a chance. Probably Monday, actually, as I've just remembered that dd2 has an inset day tomorrow, which is a bit of a pita, but hey ho.

shoeprincess2 Thu 15-Nov-12 17:28:07

My M & S doesn't have them either. What few perfumes they do have are located in a pokey corner. They have Florentyna in every size imaginable, but precious little else!
kiwigirl- you're welcome, though I don't want anything in return, if you do decide you like Naughty Alice. Unless there is something you were planning on re-homing...

kiwigirl42 Thu 15-Nov-12 17:31:39

I've just found this website Venus in Ferns which seems to sell a nice mix of essential oils and perfume oils. I'm going to get some Almond and cherry perfume oil and some rose essential oil to make a bootleg Louve body lotion. Already have some vanilla so good to go. Just need to wait for payday grin

I laughed when I saw they sold dewberry perfume oil. Blimmin' 'eck!
The amount of people who used to douse themselves in it. Worse than Poison!

BOFingSanta Thu 15-Nov-12 17:36:20

I thought this looked interesting for my 16 year old daughter too- at that price, I'd buy the two and keep one for myself grin

shoeprincess2 Thu 15-Nov-12 17:36:25

I have come over all queasy. I remember those heady (literally) days when people showered in the stuff. Oh, and fuzzy peach. I can almost feel a headache coming on.

BOFingSanta Thu 15-Nov-12 17:37:08

Oh Lawks, Dewberry! There's a blast from the past grin.

ThatsNice Thu 15-Nov-12 17:51:55

I remember those! Awful stuff. There was a blue one too supposed to smell of the ocean I think? That was pretty awful as well..

shoeprincess2 Thu 15-Nov-12 17:56:19

Oceanus. Yuck

YouOldSlag Thu 15-Nov-12 17:59:14

The Body Shop used to do some gorgeous affordable oils such as Japanese Musk, Mostly Musk and one called Annie that my Mum wore for years. I really miss those big glass jars but agree about Dewberry and Fuzzy Peach- it was bleedin everywhere!

ThatsNice Thu 15-Nov-12 18:01:07

Oceanus! Yes, that's it..feels migraine coming on at the mere memory..

YouOldSlag Thu 15-Nov-12 18:01:53

I can't bear aquatic notes in perfume, not cucumber and melon. Yuk!

YouOldSlag Thu 15-Nov-12 18:02:14

*Nor cucumber and melon

BOFingSanta Thu 15-Nov-12 18:05:24

I remember Tea Rose (my favourite back then), and Ananya. I can't think what it was like now, but I bet if I smelt it, I'd know it instantly.

coffeeinbed Thu 15-Nov-12 18:10:33

Melon and aquatic shit notes make me want to cry.
I had a big Ocean basket once- present from my sister.
Would have thought she'd know better!

kiwigirl42 Thu 15-Nov-12 18:41:07

the White Musk used to give me an instant headache. I used to really like their Activist aftershave on my long ago exP though. wonder if they still do that? It was orange and spices.

MamaGeekChic Thu 15-Nov-12 18:42:04

New to the thread but I have read much of the previous one. I'm currently looking for a new perfume, I've worn coco mademoiselle for years but it's too popular and I want something a bit more individual. Nothing to sweet, I hate angel and ghost- both make me want to heave! I like unisex type scents and vetiver, fig, mint, violet (tried TF violet blonde but it's too powdery for me). I used to love the old armani mania but it was discontinued and I'm tempted by dipthyque vetyverio but not quite sure- any thoughts? Budget up to £100 for the right one.

BOFingSanta Thu 15-Nov-12 18:46:06

Ghost is another one I love grin

LtheWife Thu 15-Nov-12 18:59:59

I always thought I bought fragrances quite randomly and not really known what I actually like. But I've just been going through a list of my favourites over the years and researching the individual notes and I've had a bit of a lightbulb moment. There seems to be a very common theme. They all open with citrus notes, develop into jasmin, magnolia and rose and have vanilla as a base note. That theme goes right back to my pre teens. As I've got older they've got a bit more complex as sandalwood, cedar wood and vetiver have crept into the base notes too.

Based on that are you knowledgable ladies able to offer any suggestions as to what I should try next? Most recent purchase was Acqua di Parma Magnolia Nobile if that's any help.

CointreauVersial Thu 15-Nov-12 19:11:48

God, those horrid glass bottles in Body Shop. I think that's where my loathing of patchouli comes from (all the more surprising now I find it's one of the notes in lovely Coromandel grin).

By the way, if you know anyone who's travelling via Gatwick in the near future, the Duty Free shop at the South Terminal (which is ginormous) has a Chanel boutique selling Les Exclusifs. A monster bottle of Coromandel can be yours for £75.

BOFingSanta Thu 15-Nov-12 19:22:40

NO WAY shock

CointreauVersial Thu 15-Nov-12 19:26:45

Yes, it's chuffing pricy. Which is why I just ordered a 10ml decant from Surrender to Chance.

onyx72 Thu 15-Nov-12 19:31:39

Oh - Manifesto was the first perfume that I fell in love with. I'd love to get my hands on some more.

otchayaniye Thu 15-Nov-12 20:11:33

my bottle of montale black aoud came today. it is skank juice. in a good way. extraordinary thing and a good way into arabic perfumerie ( wallet's not ready for an amouage assault)

TheBolter Thu 15-Nov-12 20:18:15

Marking place

I like rose perfumes - eternity, Tresor and Paris, not the most sophisticated and a bit old school I know but for day to day wear they are quite lovely. I also like chypres such as Calvin Klein's Truth which I bought on Amazon for something ridiculous like £15 earlier this year.

Evening wear I prefer Coco and also the now discontinued Feminite du Bois by Shiseido which is taking me ages to get through as I keep getting side tracked by others, such as Samsara. I've recently got massively into Dune by Dior, it's quite complex and seems to manage to strike a balance between fresh sea air and warm amber on its dry down. I also quite like Serge Lutens scents, such as his new take on Feminite (forgotten its name but I had a sample once and liked it) and also Daim Blond, although I suddenly started to react badly to it during pregnancy.

I'd love to get my hands on some Byzantium by Rochas (gotta love those big eighties/early nineties days of the supermodel scents!) so if anyone knows where I could track some down I'd be v interested.

TheBolter Thu 15-Nov-12 20:19:54

Ooo, and OceANUS reminds me of My strumpet days at university. Just the memory of it brings me back to having a guilt laden hangover.

TheBolter Thu 15-Nov-12 20:22:52

Like goat's cheese I WISH I could love Mitsouko but every time I smell it I want to heave. I feel as if I'm missing something though because to hear the accolades heaped upon it, it is the height of refinement and sophistication. Unfortunately it knows i just don't cut it, so it hates me.

coffeeinbed Thu 15-Nov-12 20:32:33

Yes, Feminit&#279; has been reformulated, but apparently it's in keeping with the original ideas. hmm
I miss the parfum though, the new one is only Eau de Parfum.
I still have some of my old stash, bought when John Lewis was selling it half-price.
Dior Dolce Vita is close to it.
If you like Dune, try Parfum des Mervelles.

TheBolter Thu 15-Nov-12 20:36:55

Thanks coffee. I too bought it HP in John Lewis (I think we may have met on a thread before?!) did you say once that the 'reconfigured' version isn't as nice?

Will look into Dolce Vita and Mervelles. Cheers.

kiwigirl42 Thu 15-Nov-12 20:40:40

I love the sound of Mitsouko but, blood hell, it almost knocked me down

coffeeinbed Thu 15-Nov-12 20:43:03

I think we had a similar conversation.
I found the new Feminit&#279; somehow thin. I was so happy when they brought it back, but then it was different, so that was disappointing, even though Serge Lutens, the creator himself said it was what he wanted. Who cares about him..
It's not what I wanted...

TheBolter Thu 15-Nov-12 21:21:25

Coffee I've just been reading some reviews on it on Escentual, and the reviewers seem to like it because it's soft and feminine. Harrumph. I like the original because it has 'fuck me' all over it. Soft and feminine indeed... Still I might ask dh to buy me some for Xmas!

DonaAna Fri 16-Nov-12 08:20:25

The reason why there were so many aquatic scents back then was that perfumers had finally figured out how to produce marine smells (they had invented a molecule called Calone). It was a hot novelty and every perfume house wanted to offer something like that.

Angel popularizes ethylmaltol and made candy floss aromas the new big thing everyone wanted to copy.

I'm taking a short break in Tuscany. The air here smells so good (wood smoke, conifers, lavender, cold stone walls) that no perfume is necessary. But the basenote of Chanel No. 19 (about 13 hours after application!) has exactly the same feel of expanses of rolling meadows and cottony clouds that can be experienced in the heart of Annick Goutal's Eau du Sud and Vero Profumo's new Mito.

ThatsNice Fri 16-Nov-12 08:29:22

Good morning ladies (do we have any gents amongst us?)
I'm giving my Chanel no 19 sample another go today. Really want to love it, powder scent and all, so persevering with it smile

ThatsNice Fri 16-Nov-12 08:30:37

I must admit DonaAna one of my favourites back then was cool water woman. Takes me right back to a Tenerife holiday around that time. Happy days smile

kiwigirl42 Fri 16-Nov-12 08:53:10

I'm wearing Mandorlo di Sicilia with a bit of Lipstick Rose today. It needs a bit of rose but not sure Lipstick Rose is the right one. I love mixing perfumes.

I noticed that someone is selling decants of Coromandel on ebay plus quite a few other perfumes. just search for decants under fragrance.
It was banned on ebay so good they've started again.

kiwigirl42 Fri 16-Nov-12 08:54:56

theBolter you can buy BYZANTINE BY ROCHAS on ebay among other places.

coffeeinbed Fri 16-Nov-12 09:40:58

Nothing on yet - working and I try not to wear perfume on a job, but it will be Feminité du Bois Extrait later.

MooMinCow Fri 16-Nov-12 11:24:41


My StoC samples finally arrived smile

Wore Diptyque 34 Blvd St Germain yesterday (lush, warm spicy) but didn't seem to last that long sad. Apparently they do it as a 'solid' perfume - anyone tried them? Does the scent last longer on the skin?

Chanel Coromandel today. Reminds me of incense and temples. I can imagine it would smell lovely when it lingers on clothes/scarves.

BOFingSanta Fri 16-Nov-12 11:51:57

Ooh, I have made a new discovery!

I have it on good authority (well, fragrantia reviewers grin) that lovers of Tom Ford's Tuscan Leather will be pleasantly surprised by (and may even prefer) the much less pricey newly released niche scent by Dueto, Golden Boy. They have free shipping to the UK from their online store, some other very interesting scents in the range, and a Facebook page from which it would appear they are happy to send samples if you message them.

They are a newish house, and it looks like they use very high quality ingredients. Trying to appeal to a young urban crowd, by the look of it. Check them out- at $100ish for 100ml EDP, I think it's worth a punt if you like the samples.

BOFingSanta Fri 16-Nov-12 19:00:57

Did I kill the thread? sad

shoeprincess2 Fri 16-Nov-12 19:12:00

I hope not. It's keeping me going through maternity leave! I am loving all the posts and getting the opportunity to learn about niche fragrances. I was talking to my mum about what her "go to" notes are. She said she loves light florals, but not the loud white ones, like jasmine and tuberose. No Carnal Flower for her then smile

ThatsNice Fri 16-Nov-12 19:15:10

Not at all smile
I am enjoying a drop of today's new sample Ninfeo mio. Wasn't sure when I took the top off (very sharp) but is warming to be really lovely on me, so thank you girls for yet another lovely fragrance I'd never have discovered otherwise smile

BOFingSanta Fri 16-Nov-12 19:21:38

I made the mistake of letting my mum sniff my sample of Chanel No22 today. She is now circling it like a shark and offering to go halves on a bottle: I CAN'T let my mum wear the same perfume as me!

coffeeinbed Fri 16-Nov-12 19:26:51

No, you didn't kill it.
I did get out the Feminité du Bois. Love the stuff,
IT got me thinking about perfumes that make me feel sexy - thanks to Bolter's post. grin
This is one - sexy in a very sophisticated way.
AP Strip - that's just dirty.
Then there's Eau Claire des Mervelles - in a gentle, take your time way, contented laid back way.
Or Shalimar Light - a Shalimar flanker from years ago - now that's very playful.

MooMinCow Fri 16-Nov-12 19:53:25

My Coromandel hasn't lasted that long (wail) Was expecting Coco style longevity sad (still loving the smell though)

BOFingSanta Fri 16-Nov-12 19:56:45

I'm taking DonaAna's advice on that one and getting a 30ml decant. I probably won't be able to afford anything else for Christmas really, but if it isn't too far away from Euston, I'm still going to visit the perfume hall in Selfridges and have a good sniff of some.

CointreauVersial Sat 17-Nov-12 00:16:57

I bought some Dior make-up today (a Christmas present; not for me), and was given a sample of Hypnotic Poison Eau Sensuelle.

Dare I try it?? If it has even the slightest resemblance to the original Poison it's going straight in the bin!

kiwigirl42 Sat 17-Nov-12 00:22:56

Oh no, all the poisons are quite different. Hypnotic Poison has almondy notes

FellatioNelson Sat 17-Nov-12 03:42:04

when you talk about Tusan Leather do you mean the Tom Ford? I fell in love with these when they first came out and I bought my DH the TL and the Bois De Morrocain,AND the Oud Wood all of which we both adored. I felt they were all men's fragrances (especially TL funnily enough) but the BDM I used to share as it seemed more unisex to me. My DH was bereft when they all ran out, and as he'd heard me say there was so many nice ones to choose from in that range
He bought himself the Champaca Absolute, on a bit of a whim. It's fucking disgusting! for men or women, just beyond grim. It smells cheap and overpowering and sweet and it catches in the back of my throat every morning when he kisses me goodbye but he insists on using it all up because it was expensive.

Cointreau have you actually smelt Jicky yet? I went on a mission to seek it out as from what I read it sounded like iconic, classic perfection. I found a counter lady who was very generous with the stuff and as it was proper parfum and not eau de something, it was a strong old dollop I got on my arm. It nearly knocked me over! I ran to the loo and scrubbed and scrubbed but I swear I could still smell that stuff three days later. Good luck!

FellatioNelson Sat 17-Nov-12 03:43:45

Meant to add, DH and I are now on a hunt for something for him that will not break the bank like the Tom fords, as he wears it every day, unlike me who tends to only use fragrance when I go out or can be bothered to remember.

FellatioNelson Sat 17-Nov-12 03:44:41

He used to wear Gucci Envy but they stopped making it. does anyone know a similar alternative?

ThatsNice Sat 17-Nov-12 08:24:02

Dueto parfums replied to my message in faceache. They sell their sample kit (all four fragrances) for $8 including shipping from their online shop. If you purchase a full size you get the sample money back too smile I shall be trying them smile

ThatsNice Sat 17-Nov-12 08:29:03

They take PayPal too so nice n easy transaction. Looking forward to smelly mail coming soon grin

stclemens Sat 17-Nov-12 09:25:47

Hi looking for someone to point me to what I might like. So far on random trips to dept store have tried and liked Tom Ford Grey Vetiver, Serge Lutens Ambre Sultan, Chanel Allure, and Dune. But not feminite du bois as much, too floral perhaps? Is there anything that connects these or are they all randomly different (need to be more scientific in my testing). Funnily enough my kids liked Chanel coco and Chanel no 19 best!

ThatsNice Sat 17-Nov-12 09:48:31

My two favorites I've tried after readi g about them from the lovely ladies here is Chanel coromandel & Tom fords noir de noir. Both utterly gorgeous and I'm most annoyed I've not found my samples of them since I've moved house sad

anniewoo Sat 17-Nov-12 10:15:00

DonaAna Can you suggest a hyacinth based perfume as i love the smell of hyacinths. Ninfeo Mio reminds me of a garden in the rain- a garden with plants rather than flowers . I love it, Chanel Jersey, Creed Virgin Island Water and

Coty Wild Musk (blush)

anniewoo Sat 17-Nov-12 10:16:43

Surrender to Chance are now doing Annick Goutal's Ninfeo Mio.

shoeprincess2 Sat 17-Nov-12 10:21:52

Hi anniewoo- as a starter for ten, try Grand Amour by Annick Goutal. That is hyacinth based and gorgeous. It is slightly reminiscent of Chanel Allure.

anniewoo Sat 17-Nov-12 10:24:20

Thank you- actually think it is 'too sweet'for me. Will try it again.

BOFingSanta Sat 17-Nov-12 12:03:00

Yes, Fellatio- that's the one I mean. I've ordered some Dueto Golden Boy for DP for Christmas.

kiwigirl42 Sat 17-Nov-12 12:58:58

I've just ordered the Dueto samples. Bargain at $8 (£5.20) delivered for 4 samples.

Guerlain Chamade is supposed to be a good hyacinth - don't discount 'bluebell' fragrances either as they are hyacinths too.
Penhaglions Bluebell has lots of fans, including on this thread

This page from Fragantia had information about hyacinth

kiwigirl42 Sat 17-Nov-12 13:27:47

some half price perfumes at Roullier White in the UK

coffeeinbed Sat 17-Nov-12 18:11:14

Chamade is a green galbanum hyacinth one.
I have worn it, but it's a bit too perfume-y for me now, IYSWIM.
stclements Feminité has no flowers, at all, it was created as an entirely flower-free one. It might be the plum notes or the spices your smelling that make you think of flowers.
I know I sound a bit like a broken record - I seem to be on a mission to get everyone wearing it - but give Mervelles a sniff.
Especially the new flanker - L'Ambre. It has the amber you seem to like but in a more restrained way, compared to Ambre Sultan. It also has the beachy feel, the one Dune is meant to have. Avoid the Elixir, they put some chocolate notes in in, the idiots.
I cannot comment on any Chanels - I avoid them like the plague. grin

stclemens Sat 17-Nov-12 20:31:31

Thanks! Today I added white patchouli to my list of smells I like, but not black orchid.

yellowbottle Sat 17-Nov-12 20:45:43

Now I know this thread is all about fancy dancy perfumes, but if love if someone could tell me what this is that I don't like. I sprayed estee lauders's beautiful today and found it to be rank, in the same way that I hate jlo's glow. Something air freshener about it. Would it be the rose or the peach note in them maybe? I tried comparing the notes on fragrantica but not much help.

I've also tried some guerlain perfumes on the basis that they might be a good high street option. I really love shalimar parfum initial but it seems to get a slating. I'm looking for a winter scent. Tried mitsouko but found it to be old ladyish in the way that many people describe chanel no 5. I love no 5 and don't get that from it. Any suggestions? I wear coco mademoiselle a bit. Also like clarins eau tranquillity, clinique happy, Kenzo flowers, Armani diamonds but all of those I find more summery and growing out of flowers I think.

Also hypnotic poison I found to be very sweet!

coffeeinbed Sat 17-Nov-12 20:57:55

Shalimar parfum initial is lovely, I think.
And I must have been the only person alive to like Insolence. blush
Beautiful is rubbish.
Honestly don't know what to recommend. Agent P. petale noir? that has flowers though.
Is donna karan cashmere mist still around?
Give that sniff, if you see it?

yellowbottle Sat 17-Nov-12 21:05:08

I have my insolence. A random duty free purchase that I hated during the summer but am coming around to a bit more during the winter. I do find it a bit sweet though. Funny, cashmere is one I've liked the sound of a bit from what I've read online. Must see if I can find it somewhere and have a sniff!

coffeeinbed Sat 17-Nov-12 21:06:54

Blimey, I'm good!

yellowbottle Sat 17-Nov-12 21:07:05

I meant Flowers by kenzo that I've gone off rather than florals. [Smile]

coffeeinbed Sat 17-Nov-12 21:08:22

Gibe the Petale Noir a sniff then.

yellowbottle Sat 17-Nov-12 21:10:41

Will do! Ta for that, I just love this thread!!

yellowbottle Sat 17-Nov-12 22:09:34

I noticed this place close to where I live today. I was petrified to walk in the door.... but having looked at it online and not been petrified of the prices I should probably try it...right?


CointreauVersial Sat 17-Nov-12 22:30:27

Fellatio - no, never tried Jicky, I just liked the sound of it, so I've ordered a wee sample. And if I have the slightest fear that I won't like a new fragrance, then I make sure I sample it on a day when I'm not getting up close and personal with lots of people.

Which is why I tried the sample of Hypnotic Poison Eau Sensuelle today, when I've done nothing more exciting than cleaning the house, taxi-ing DD1, and scorching round Asda. And it is absolutely bogging, sweet and cloying. It keeps catching in the back of my throat. Bleurgh.

YouOldSlag Sat 17-Nov-12 23:37:27

I read somewhere that Jackie O always wore Jicky.

kiwigirl42 Sun 18-Nov-12 12:25:59

I'm trying a sample of Kiss Me Tender Parfums de Nicolaï . It started out smelling like ylang ylang and now smells like hay with a touch of ylang ylang. its nice but not full bottle worthy.

I'd really like to try some Montale perfumes next. There are about 76,000,000,000 different ones. I asked if they would send me a sample of their almond one but they wouldn't - I'm not sure how they expect you to try them or maybe people just buy the whole bottle blind. (I'm not rich enough to do that). I did get a sample of Sweet Oriental Dream from surrender to chance but don't like it. I need to test it again to confirm that though.

I've ordered a sample of Givency Dahlia Noir from ebay today. I have about 10 samples coming this week.

CointreauVersial Sun 18-Nov-12 17:51:12

I tried Dahlia Noir in a department store recently - not bad, definitely worthy of a second try.

Today I'm wearing Noa by Cacharel, having unearthed an ancient sample from the depths of my dressing table. Nice, fresh and soft, helped me keep my cool while rustling up Sunday lunch for friends.

coffeeinbed Sun 18-Nov-12 17:55:22

I managed to cover self with a real scrubber - Martin Margiela A walk on the beach.
Bloody melon-ozone nighmare.
And it sticks.
washed and washed and am still getting wafts of the stuff.
Bloody hate it.

ThatsNice Sun 18-Nov-12 18:22:24

Cointreau, I love, love, love noa smile

FellatioNelson Sun 18-Nov-12 19:20:31

Right, I've blitzed the whole of Duty Free at Dubai airport today - tried every Issey Miyake going (pretty good actually, I was tempted by one or two of them, but they were a touch on the sweet/light/floral side for what I really wanted) all of the Calvin Kleins, all of the Amouages, (hideously expensive but one or two of them were lovely) and all of the Chanels (again hmm) but I've had most of them at some point or other and I really wanted to try something new. Still came out with nothing. confused

There is a fragrance I've loved for years that I keep smiling on other people but I never get to find out what it is. I thought it was a Calvin Klein, maybe Eternity, but no it's not. It's sort of melony but in a good way. Any ideas? It's been round for years and was very popular about 5-10 years ago.

shoeprincess2 Sun 18-Nov-12 20:01:02

FellatioNelson DKNY Be Delicious? Was popular about 5-6 years ago and sort of smells melony (without you smelling like you've smeared a canteloupe over your person).

FellatioNelson Mon 19-Nov-12 03:20:12

Oh! I tried some DKNY ones as well (forgot to mention those) and one of them was almost it, but not it. But it wasn't Be Delicious - I didn't bother to try that because I didn't like the name. hmm I decided I probably wouldn't like it in advance. grin

Will have to go and try that now.

FellatioNelson Mon 19-Nov-12 03:21:36

smiling on other people? hmm

I've got a new Mac Air and the bloody autocorrect is driving me nuts. It's bad enough with all the American English, but why keep changing whole words unnecessarily? angry

FellatioNelson Mon 19-Nov-12 04:52:35

I've just been reading (properly) the original thread that spawned this one. I'm less than halfway through and I'm exhausted. I feel like I've just had really great sex with a new crush. Have I got bed hair?

It's a good job I can't meet DonaAna - I think I might become an embarrassing sex pest. I can just see myself going all giggly and annoying now.

Right. If I (dress up a bit, suck my stomach in) and go into a Chanel boutique today (luckily I have one at very close quarters) how much can I expect to pay for one of those there posh exclusive jobbies?

I need to be prepared, in case I have to skulk out due to not having enough pocket money.

FellatioNelson Mon 19-Nov-12 05:43:49

I am seriously thinking about ordering this just because

a) who can resist a brand called Juliet Has A gun?
b) I think the description sounds nice, and I recognize some of those ingredients in things I like.

Shall I? Will it blast my head off? I need three others to go with it. Help.

FellatioNelson Mon 19-Nov-12 05:45:28

Does anyone know how long these things take to arrive? I don't have a postal service here but I have friends coming from the UK soon so they could bring it.

FellatioNelson Mon 19-Nov-12 05:46:22

The trouble with being three hours ahead of you lot is that I talk to myself for hours and look like the worst kind of thread hogger. GET UP ffs. I need help.

FellatioNelson Mon 19-Nov-12 05:52:06

this one sounds terrifying.

I'm having it.

FellatioNelson Mon 19-Nov-12 05:57:54

Oh dear God someone save me from myself.

FellatioNelson Mon 19-Nov-12 06:04:56

considered too daring and unusual for the world stage

yep, that's me all over. hmm WTF am I doing?

FellatioNelson Mon 19-Nov-12 06:07:02

Right, they are saved in my basket. I DARE not press send until DonaAna arrives to steer me away from certain death. Or lead me over the cliff edge - whichever.

coffeeinbed Mon 19-Nov-12 07:44:36

Fellation, step away from the computer now.
perfume copywriting clearly does not agree with your mental health.

shoeprincess2 Mon 19-Nov-12 09:43:55

<runs in to save fellatio from ordering yet another perfume sample>

Did I arrive too late? smile

Today I am placing an order with Scent & Sensibility:-

Pentachord White
Incense Rose
L'Air du desert marocain

Very excited. I have also been tasked with finding my partner's mum a new floral fragrance. She's not ready for niche ones yet. So, maybe a Chanel...?

SorrelForbes Mon 19-Nov-12 09:53:39

Today I am trying (again) Guerlain L'heure bleu. I think I like it.

FellatioNelson Mon 19-Nov-12 10:02:27

sad I was enjoying myself. I want some opinions on whether they sound vile or not before I commit though.

FellatioNelson Mon 19-Nov-12 10:03:34

To be honest, a bit of flannel from a marketing company can make anything sound luscious, but I know that can't be true because I would never wear 98.5% of everything I have ever sniffed.

Haberdashery Mon 19-Nov-12 10:08:30

I absolutely love the sound of Le Parfum de Therese. I also rather fancy the Tauer Perfumes one. None of them sound vile! Go for it!

coffeeinbed Mon 19-Nov-12 10:15:36

Ok, I'll confess, I found Parfum de Therese vile, but then I don't like melon in perfumes at all, so probably best to ignore me.

I'm happily using one of the Julliette has Gun perfumes, but it's their simple one - Not a Perfume.
I had high hopes for something called Amyris and smelt it yesterday, but it was far too sweet and wimpy.

kiwigirl42 Mon 19-Nov-12 11:42:07

FellatioNelson Juliette has a Gun do really lovely, quirky perfumes. They do a 'discovery pack' on the www.juliettehasagun.com site

The blurb on Frangantia says 'uliette Has A Gun is a fragrance project of Romano Ricci, Nina Ricci's grandson, initiated in 2005. According to plans, this fragrance line will have five women's fragrances based on rose scent, as rose is the best gift by a man in love to the lady of his heart. Romano Ricci started this project inspired by Shakespeare's tragedy; modern Juliette is armed, but equally romantic as before.

Designer Juliette Has A Gun has 9 perfumes in our fragrance base. The earliest edition was created in 2006 and the newest is from 2012. Juliette Has A Gun fragrances were made in collaboration with perfumers Romano Ricci and Francis Kurkdjian.'

Kurkdjian is a very well respected perfumer. He was apprenticed to Edmond Roudnitska, one of the greats, who incidentially designed Perfumes de Therese for his wife (one of your other links above).

So fill your boots. You need to buy samples first though or we'll smack your bum!

SorrelForbes Did you like L'Heure Bleu? I must try my sample again. I didn't like it much. Not sweet enough for me, I think

shoeprincess2 Desert d'Moroccan (or sumfink!) is really nice - I almost bought some last time I was at Les Senteurs

I've been into Debenhams browsing perfume this morning. Holy God there is some awful stuff in there. I'm disappointed with the current versions of both Paris, Opium and Tresor. They smell really thin and sour compared to how I remember only a few yrs back. Hypnotic Poison didn't do it for me either. I tried Chanel number 5 which I've never liked and actually liked it today - perhaps now I'm over 40 I'm old enough to wear it?

I've ordered some Jergen's body lotion from Amazon. Apparently its a lovely cherry almond

SorrelForbes Mon 19-Nov-12 12:02:32

kiwigirl42 Yes, I like it but it's falling into that 'meh' category for me. I might be tempted to buy aanother sample/decant but I don't think I'd shell out for a whole bottle.

kiwigirl42 Mon 19-Nov-12 12:06:40

sorrel I actually thought it would be more like Shalimar, which I adore but I don't see much resemblance - in fact, I don't even get the usual Guerlinade drydown which they are all supposed to have

coffeeinbed Mon 19-Nov-12 12:15:29

Julliette's Midnight Oud is lovely.
That's why I was so disappointed in Amyris - it's a Kurkjian one, japanese woods and iris, so I had really high hopes.

anniewoo Mon 19-Nov-12 12:34:19

Awaiting my Surrender to Chance order. Does delivery take long?

CointreauVersial Mon 19-Nov-12 13:04:12

Fellatio grin - addictive, isn't it? Just go mad and order loads of samples.

Anniewoo - StC took 1-2 weeks (my order arrived in two parts). I suppose it is coming from the US.

shoeprincess2 Mon 19-Nov-12 13:25:45

anniewoo- my order from StC took 2 weeks exactly. And they put a coffee sweet in the envelope <feels special>. My scent and sensibility order is being dispatched tomorrow, so should get it by the end of the week.

I wore Gardenia Passion by Annick Goutal yesterday, as it smells of tuberose (and I do like a nice tuberose). However, it faded after a few hours, so won't be investing in that one. Fracas, I think, would be worthy of investment. Having said that, though, I still haven't tried Carnal Flower or Tubereuse Criminelle, so don't know how Fracas compares to them. Oh dear, that means I'll be buying more samples...

I have realised as well, that my all consuming addiction to testing beautiful perfumes has distracted me from finding an outfit for Christmas Day. Oh well, at least I'll smell nice!

FellatioNelson Mon 19-Nov-12 13:47:57

oh don't worry kiwi, these are definitely only samples at this stage.

I have been on a perfume hunt this afternoon and I have come back with no less than 22 bits of card sprayed with stuff. I have decided no more spraying on the skin until I have satisfied myself that I like it at least a bit.

I found somewhere that stocks Serge Lutens which was a turn up for the books - never seen it in a shop before!

I'm going to sit here and do a blind sniffing of them all now - wrote the names on in biro but don't want to get led by the brand or the name.

shoeprincess2 Mon 19-Nov-12 13:50:56

Wow! 22 cards. That's impressive. You could do a live testing on this thread. Ooooh, reprt back your findings immediately. Vicarious perfume testing smile

FellatioNelson Mon 19-Nov-12 13:52:34

Yeah but knowing me I'll hate all of them. grin

coffeeinbed Mon 19-Nov-12 14:02:13

You have stamina.
Go on, let us know what and what.

DonaAna Mon 19-Nov-12 14:54:45

I'm back from a trip and love the conversation that is going on here.
I've worn No. 19 for almost my entire trip and no, I am not tired of it, I find a new facet at every wear.

Whoever was looking for hyacinths, a thread about them here.

I didn't like Le Parfum de Therese when I first tried it - I don't usually like fruity florals, and found the melon underwhelming, but it has grown on me and I've started to really enjoy it and would be happy to have a full bottle of it. It's such and elegant and radiant perfume. Makes me think of that diaphanous flowered gown in Botticelli's Spring.

I'm impressed that some of you have fallen for No. 22! (Possible things to offer to the mother who liked it as a substitute: Caleche, Amouage Gold, even the classic blue-black Rive Gauche). And if you want to try modern aldehydes, Le Labo 44 and Tauer's Miriam are great ones.

FellatioNelson Mon 19-Nov-12 15:28:25

I detest Rive Gauge with a vengeance. Everyone I knew wore it at one point and I hated it - still do.

Right. I've sniffed blind and I've sniffed again, and separated into piles of Got huge Potential, ambivalent about, not me at all, and HATE.

The ones that made it into the Got Huge Potential pile both times are as follows <drumroll>

Guerlain - Encense Mythique D'Orient (I think it is exclusively for the Arab market her in the middle East so not sure if you will see it.)

It's bosky (I love that word, getorf taught me that on a thread about Guerlain perfumes grin) and incensey and warm and mysterious without being too overpowering and some things of its ilk often are.

Amouage Memoir - in a similar vein to above, but maybe a tad too masculine?

Estaban (never heard of them before) Bois Plume, not even sure what category I would put this in but it smells very grown up and reminds me a bit of Mitsouko, which I wear a lot, but maybe with some Orientals in there? don't really know what I am talking about.

Also Estaban Tonka, but can't decide whether it's too masculine.

Dolce and Gabbana Pour Femme - not sure if that's the proper name, the sales guy was a bit vague. I really like it - smells soft, warm, pretty, unchallenging and a tiny, tiny bit of chocolate which sounds vile, but isn't. In theory I shouldn't like it but I do. It hasn't lasted well on the card though and I'm having to use my nose like a Dyson to get some up there.

Hugo Boss Nuit - I think I like it, but again it hasn't lasted well on the card and I'm struggling to separate it from other things it has nestled against. Too faint to even be able to describe it tbh, but again I think it is a user-friendly one that doesn't repel or intimidate me. grin

Van Cleef and Arpels Oriens (gorgeous bottle) and Aqua Oriens. I really like both of these in spite of myself.They are both light, pretty, floral, fruity, a bit watery - all the things I thought I didn't go for. Maybe I wouldn't be able to wear them, but I'd certainly follow someone round a shop who was!

FellatioNelson Mon 19-Nov-12 15:29:54

as some things of its ilk often are.

FellatioNelson Mon 19-Nov-12 15:52:29

I've just googled all of those and it's fascinating because I am starting to form a picture of the recurrent ingredients that I know i like now, which is very helpful. And the one I said smelt a tiny bit of chocolate was in fact vanilla! I knew it was sweet and I knew I would eat it, so I can I have one point? grin

kiwigirl42 Mon 19-Nov-12 16:44:43

funnily enough, one of the perfumes I liked on this mornings rampage was Lady Million! I picked it up just to see how crap it was and its actually very pleasant and smoothly made in a fruity 2012 type of way. Not for me though.

Looking at the accords, it surprised me that there wasn't more fruit:

Top Notes
Neroli, Bitter orange, Raspberry

Middle Notes
Orange flower absolute, Arabian jasmine absolute

Base Notes
Honey, Patchouli

FellatioNelson Mon 19-Nov-12 17:03:26

My husband is complaining because of all these little cards lined up all over the place, and the house smelling like a bordello. grin

BOFingSanta Mon 19-Nov-12 17:15:46

Well, I made my fairly unglamorous but satisfying trip to investigate Marks and Spencer today, and was surprised and disappointed to find that the city centre branch had very little to offer in the way of its range. BUT the more local store to me out on an industrial estate was FABULOUS. It was quiet, and the very young assistant was incredibly helpful and showered me with free samples. I also took lots of paper strips and wrote the names on them of stuff that didn't have sample bottles to take away.

I have to say that my nose is actually too overwhelmed right now to give a clear report, but my first impressions were that the Lyn Harris ones were a touch disappointing to me- too sharp and not warm enough for what I am looking for, but I think they would be good perfumes for work. I prefer something a bit more seductive and soft. I will give them another sniff later though.

I was very impressed by the Vintage Love in the Per Una range though, and thought it was a lovely young floral smell: I will definitely be getting that for my teenage daughter's Christmas stocking, and at £16 (and on a buy one get one half price deal, even less than that) for 100ml, it is very affordable and stands up well against things like Miss Dior and J'Adore which it reminded me of.

I have a couple of dozen samples to re-visit, but the stand-out one to me was Berdoues' Fleurs de Cerisier EDP for £39.50 for 80ml. I have to say also that I was seduced by the beautiful bottle with its traditional atomiser bulb, so I look forward to having that on my dressing table.

And DonaAna, my 30ml decant from the seller you linked me to also arrived this morning, so I am in perfume bliss! grin

DonaAna Mon 19-Nov-12 17:21:04

Random replies to questions upthread:
Parfumeria Neroli is a good source for inexpensive Montale samples. They are rich, heady and very Middle Eastern. The longest-lasting perfumes I know.

DonaAna Mon 19-Nov-12 17:49:32

Whoever is looking for classy but not too daring florals for mothers/MILs etc, three suggestions: 24 Faubourg by Hermes, First by Van Cleef & Arpels, and Joy by Patou.

Jicky is one of the most indecent perfumes I know. Let me know if you love it and dare wear it in public wink

Fellatio I'm still catching up but yy to sampling and trying everything. I've worn well over 1000 perfumes and am still curious about perfumes I haven't tried yet.

Juliette Has a Gun have an insanely strong and tenacious patchouli rose (Lady Vengeance?). If anyone loves that, they should look for other Francis Kurkdjian creations - including the ubiquitous masculine/feminine Le Male. He treads the fine line between sexy and trashy.

Anyone freshly bitten by the perfume bug, get hold of Le Snob - Perfumes or Turin/Sanchez. Reading one of those will take you knowledge about perfume to another level and give a long list of great perfumes to try.

Some of you have figured out what notes you love. Now you can search those notes on Basenotes or Fragrantica and perhaps sample some more. If you do not like something, you might want to return to it later. A bit like good wine, some perfumes are an acquired taste and you may not 'get' them immediately. Aldehydic perfumes and chypres (ie, most feminine classics) are often challenging for a novice.

I'm wearing Tabac Blond.

DonaAna Mon 19-Nov-12 17:59:44

Great BOF - happy that the decant deal worked out!
Can't help it - Per Una perfume cracks me up. grin
Fellatio I have a sample of Encens Mythique somewhere. Was it saffrony? If you like it you may also like Montales and perhaps some Thierry Wasser Guerlains (L 'art et la materie series).

FellatioNelson Mon 19-Nov-12 18:02:34

How are you not bankrupt DonaAna? confused

DonaAna Mon 19-Nov-12 18:06:47

Nothing wrong with Shalimar Parfum Initial. It's actually one of my duty-free faves (along with La vie est belle). Yummy but not tacky. One of the very few freebie samples I've used up. If you like it, gourmands are your territory and Angel's descendants worth exploring.

DonaAna Mon 19-Nov-12 18:11:56

BOF I mostly collect samples (and when you know a bit about perfumes friends and perfumers start sending them to you). I have a good job though... But most of the perfume lovers I know are students or SAHMs - when you buy wisely and trade what you have it is not expensive at all. The key is to avoid full bottle purchases.

BOFingSanta Mon 19-Nov-12 18:18:15

I am a bit embarrassed at liking a Per Una anything, but I'm trying to be open-minded grin

CointreauVersial Mon 19-Nov-12 18:35:44

BOF, don't be embarrassed about liking Per Una - one of my fave daytime perfumes is Next Just Pink.

So my fragrance is synthetic, poor quality and not as good as it used to be.

And yours is gaudy, over-embellished and best left to the more mature lady. wink grin

BOFingSanta Mon 19-Nov-12 18:46:24


Haberdashery Mon 19-Nov-12 19:15:02

>> the classic blue-black Rive Gauche

I adore that! It reminds me of my aunts when I was a little girl.

yellowbottle Mon 19-Nov-12 21:11:19

Oh no! The only perfume I would ever go so far to say that I actually hate is Angel. I must explore Gourmands, I'm trying to work out what it is that I like and dislike. But, you nasty nasty people have me hooked on Fragrantica. I have a spreadsheet with all of the perfumes I've ever had and liked, trying to find links between the notes, bergamot top notes, jasmine middle notes and vetiver base notes seem to be the most popular, according to my sheet. I've also started a bit of a wishlist for myself on Surrender to Chance. blush. Get thee behind me satans!! grin

Haberdashery Mon 19-Nov-12 21:34:00

>> I have a spreadsheet with all of the perfumes I've ever had and liked, trying to find links between the notes

Ooooh. This is actually a top idea. Thank you.

FellatioNelson Tue 20-Nov-12 05:41:13

How funny - I was just thinking of doing the same myself this morning!

(not that I'd know how to do a spread sheet if my life depended on it - mine would likely be in the form of scribbled notes on paper napkins in the bottom of my handbag. confused)

Lancôme la Vie est Belle (think that's what it's called) is lovely, DH got me some for birthday and everyone has commented on it.

No Malone Pomegranate Noir is also fab.

I have a Prada one in small black rectangular bottle that DH let DS pick out (obviously shape of bottle swung decision) at the airport when they were away and it is bloody awful, I spray some in the loo now and then to use it up!

anniewoo Tue 20-Nov-12 07:20:00

Thank you ShoePrincess- it was Tuberose Criminalle that inspired me to start tthe thread ' The Worst Perfume Ever'.
Does anybody else think Lancome's Hypnose has more than a hint of 'Brut' ( the 1970's men's aftershave) about it???grin

Maraki Tue 20-Nov-12 08:51:03

Hello All
I've been following this thread with interest and I wanted to say thank you for the StC site recommendation. Now I have the opportunity to test drive my wish list purchases before I commit to full bottles!!!

My all time favourites are Chanel Bois des Iles, Sisley Eau du Soir, Chanel Cristalle, Miss Dior.. I am planning on ordering Annick Goutal's Eau du Sud, Ninfeo Mio. Shame they don't have samples of Chanel 19 Poudre, I am seriously considering purchasing it.

I am a chypre girl, if you have any recommendations for others I may like do let me know.

Oh and to answer the thread title: my worst perfume ever is Eternity. Tackiest perfume ever!

ThatsNice Tue 20-Nov-12 11:38:21

Maraki, have you tried searching eBay for samples? You might get them in there if stc don't have them.

DonaAna Tue 20-Nov-12 11:54:20

Maraki - a great article on chypres here - see the comments part on discussions about how IFRA restrictions have changed/endangered this great group of perfumes & suggestions of ones to try. Vintage (from eBay etc) is the way to go.

I'm lamenting a ruined perfume right now. I have some vintage extrait and it is perfection. Bought some more off eBay hoping it was old enough to be pre-reformulation. It isn't: thin, strident and sad, nothing like the original.

DonaAna Tue 20-Nov-12 11:55:08

Sorry, link here.

kiwigirl42 Tue 20-Nov-12 12:11:38

just posted this in completely the wrong thread. doh! so here goes again:

I've just ordered a Shalimar type oil from Perfume Parlour to see what its like. thank you fridgepants

I've tried on Lolita Lempicka today - its just completely disappeared into my skin and I can't smell anything.
So I put Prada Candy on the other arm. Its nice enough - caramel and musk once the candyfloss top notes dissipate. I'm a bit Meh! about it though.

Haberdashery Tue 20-Nov-12 12:17:15

My favourite chypre is Ma Griffe. It's available very cheaply on Amazon etc these days.

LtheWife Tue 20-Nov-12 12:29:11

I wore Prada Candy for the first time yesterday kiwigirl. Like you say, it's nice enough and I'll have to try it again but I was definitely left feeling quite indifferent about it.

DonaAna Tue 20-Nov-12 12:43:29

Candy is meh for me too - nicely done for mainstream but I feel like a gigantic creme brulee wearing it. That's the problem of many gourmands. You get tired of smelling delicious. I especially hate it when my perfume clashes with food. But a good gourmand is very comforting for when one feels low.

Maraki Tue 20-Nov-12 12:49:46

Thank you DonaAna for article, this explains why my (very old) Bois des Iles is so much nicer than the current Exclusifs versions by Chanel.

I have found some No19 Poudre on ebay, I am being a bit cautious though as there are so many fakes on ebay, especially Chanels.

ThatsNice Tue 20-Nov-12 12:52:30

My sample of black dahlia arrived this morning. Loved it when I first put it on. As its developing, something else is making itself known and I really am not keen at all sad It is a quite cloying and sickly note. I vaguely recall smelling it (the note) in something else I disliked and I can't for the life if me think what... huffs On the other hand (literally!) , my other sample that arrived, Chanel crystalle, I disliked as I put it on. It however is now smelling really lovely and very wearable smile

ThatsNice Tue 20-Nov-12 12:54:38

Maraki, I was a bit dubious about fakes too but figured if they had excellent feedback and had been trading a while, they must (hopefully) be trustworthy?

CointreauVersial Tue 20-Nov-12 13:07:51

Haberdashery - my mum used to wear Ma Griffe. Haven't smelled it for ages.

Anniewoo - I wear Hypnose quite often, but hadn't thought about Brut connections. Not sure I even remember the "great smell of Brut" tbh!

Well, after hearing you lot rave about Annick Goutal Ninfeo Mio, I found someone on eBay selling samples. Then I looked at what else they had on offer (made sense, once I was paying postage, surely?)......now I have yet another package on its way. blush

Tauer L'Air du Desert Marocain
Serge Lutens Un Bois Vanille
L'Artisan Parfumeur Tea for Two
and the above-mention Ninfeo Mio

I'm loving this!

Tom Ford Tuscan Leather today, which has now settled into the lovely warm, woody phase.

ThatsNice Tue 20-Nov-12 13:38:21

Gonna have to go scrub my hand to try and get rid of the black dahlia..is making me feel sick... sad Don't think I'll be wearing this one again...

kiwigirl42 Tue 20-Nov-12 13:46:17

CointreauVersial I'm going to get a sample of Un Bois Vanille too - I tried it ages ago in a shop but forgot to think about it at the time!

I tried YSL M7 Oud absolue yesterday and really liked it. Trouble is, I have a bell jar of Ambre Sultan and that sort of covers it for me with ambery, spicy, woody scents. Must use it faster wink

DonaAna Tue 20-Nov-12 13:55:09

Great package Cointreau!
The official reformulations bother me much more than potential pirates. They are done for three reasons:
1) original ingredient is extinct/ astronomically expensive/ unethical (civet and other animal-based ingredients ; Mysore sandalwood; natural oudh ie agarwood)
2) original ingredients are deemed allergenic or toxic (many natural oils, for example citrus oils or cinnamon, are skin irritants; this is the problem with oakmoss, the basenote in chypres and fougeres)
3) it's cheaper for perfume companies to give you synthetics than costly natural plant-derived ingredients; because many people are not very quality conscious, they happily accept cheapened and diluted formulas

If you love a perfume now, you should buy it. Perfume formulas are constantly being changed and the same bottle with the same label may smell very different next year. This has already happened to most classics but it may also happen to your current, modern favorite.

DonaAna Tue 20-Nov-12 14:07:38

Re Dahlia, iirc it has a musky base. A lot of different musks are used in perfumery. People smell musks differently and some of us are anosmic to some of them, so perfumers often add a handful of different ones to make sure everyone smells something. I perceive one musk as intensely unpleasant (somewhere between vomit and fecal - Bulgari Black, Body Kouros, current Vanille Tonka) - many other friends perceive them fifferently. A friend gets an intense, unpleasant fabric softener feel from many white musks - laundry detergents and other household products are full of cheap musks.

kiwigirl42 Tue 20-Nov-12 14:43:29

I've just been thinking about musk also. Its an accord I dislike as it tends to give me a headache (think body shop white musk - instant migraine!) The drydown of Prada Candy is just starting to give me a headache and make me feel nauseous. And its lasted through a shower!

Definitely not a musk girl.

pocketandsweet Tue 20-Nov-12 17:18:00

cointreau can I ask who your eBay seller is? I can't seem to find ( are you in. UK?) and that is a list I would like to try as well....

ThatsNice Tue 20-Nov-12 18:39:37

DonaAna, that's interesting about different musks. I have to say it didn't smell particularly musky that I disliked, maybe violety?? Ivan not good at identifying different scents/notes (not too sure of correct terminology either, lol!) I actually quite like musk but accept if there are many different ones, its quite plausible I may have stumbled across one I dislike.

ThatsNice Tue 20-Nov-12 18:42:25

And a big fat .. Doh .. from me too calling it black dahlia, its black orchid rolls eyes at myself mixing them up

ThatsNice Tue 20-Nov-12 18:56:36

I wonder if its ylang ylang I can smell? I detest the stuff. My friend used an aroma blend on me last year that had ylang in (which I initially liked) but as the top and middle notes wore off, I was left with just the ylang.... Bleurgh.. sad

coffeeinbed Tue 20-Nov-12 19:31:11

I did a side by side - left hand, right hand experiment and YSL Nu is remarkably similar to Miller Harris La Fumee.
La Fumee is a little bit smokier, but not a lot.

CointreauVersial Tue 20-Nov-12 23:11:59

Pocketandsweet - I've sent you a PM.

Itsafineline Tue 20-Nov-12 23:23:49

Marking place. Have racked up a £500 wish list since reading these threads, but am managing on 3ml samples from Surrender to Chance instead. I don't actually want a 50 - 75ml bottle of anything - but I do want a nice bottle, so that's my dilemma.
Current fave is ELdO Tom of Finland - must try the Tilda Swinton on next month's StC order. Also enjoying Jasmine et Cigarette, but it doesn't last long. Just ordered Tauer's Lonestar Memories sample from Scent & Sensibility. Want Tom Ford's Tuscan Leather but the saleswoman was a bit snotty and it is really very costly. 3ml sample I think.
Just for fun, I sprayed the 'leather soaked' version of Angel, which was so popular, the testers were empty. Sheesher - I don't know how I ever wore that stuff. Suffice to say that there was no discernible leather at all and the tester ribbon lasted 5 mins before i had to chuck it in the bin.

Ladies, had stepped away from this thread as I was becoming quite obsessed and spending too much on samples!

BUT - I have finally decided that I love Chanel Sycomore.....although I can't seem to find out how much it costs on the internet (never a good sign). But while reading about Sycomore - Lalique Encre Noir keeps being mentioned...and I see there is a Lalique Encre Noir Pour Elle.....has anyone tried it? views much appreciated


spaghettina Wed 21-Nov-12 09:22:56

Hello, I've found you again..
Am wearing a spritz of my Chanel no19 Poudré sample this morning, I love it, lasting power is not great but it's nice and delicate. The original no19 is my go-to classic but it doesn't smell as good as it used to (er, can it really have been 20 years since I first bought it?! oh dear)

I can't wait to get No5 again but I'm still waiting until I'm 40 - I was about 15 last time and it probably didn't suit me then.
I also had Rive Gauche! Great bottle but I wouldn't wear it now.

Had no idea there was a leather soaked version of Angel, I don't actually mind the original but that sounds foul...

Bit worried as I ordered some Guerlain and other samples from Surrender to Chance a month ago and they still haven't arrived in London. It was US First Class Mail so there's no way of tracking it, I just know they sent me an e-mail to say it had been dispatched, but this was about the same time as Hurricane Sandy... sad
Has anyone else had problems with StC deliveries??

DonaAna Wed 21-Nov-12 09:25:35

Itsafineline Escentual sells a coffret of ELdOs that is great value, but the samples are quite small - you may need the bigger ones.

I need to smell the Leather Angel too. For some strange reason YSL Nu is difficult for me to get. I'm not sure I've tried it, but would love to. (Last year I was pleasantly surprised by Cinema, which was a great everyday fragrance - it contains heliotrope and is sweet, so may not work on everyone, but I really loved it.)

Going old lady today and wearing vintage Chamade by Guerlain. Spent some time on the tram yesterday in close contact with Roman ladies of certain age, all smelling of vintage treasures - Carons, Guerlains, forgotten great perfumes.

I can also recommend Alla Violetta Boutique for ordering some spray samples. They do a quick delivery via UPS (EU-based, so no need to worry about import duties) and give so many interesting freebies on the side that you immediately forgive the cost of shipping. They have a great selection of niche fragrances. Right now they offer a great incense sampler.

Someone was looking for a good hyacinth. Bas de soie by Serge Lutens is a spine-chilling rendition - daunting but really worth trying. One of those perfumes that really stand out and feel completely different from anything you've ever tried.

I guess that is what keeps me hooked - every now and then experiencing something that smells completely new and unique. (But I also enjoy good craftmanship and great ingredients - it's like fashion: sometimes you need something totally new and outrageous, other times just something that slips on without a fuss and is well-made and comfortable.)

Which reminds me that I really recommend Opus and Sartorial by Penhaligons if you'd like to cross over to masculines a bit but want something nicely crafted and easy to wear.

When I was running this morning I came across an old man who wore an amazing orange cologne. I'd say Eau d'Orange Verte by Hermes. Lovely.

coffeeinbed Wed 21-Nov-12 09:47:19

Northumberlandlass Encre Noir pour Elle is a sweet mess, nothing like Encre Noir.
Nu was discontinued and then brought back last year in a different bottle.
The original Eau de Parfum bottle was joke anyway, so just as well.
Haven't smellt the new one though, so don't know if it's changed.

DonaAna Wed 21-Nov-12 10:05:12

Spaghettina I'm sorry about delivery problems. Although I really love StC (and they are the best source for variety and for vintage versions), ordering anything from the US is difficult - hence I'm always looking for EU-based companies and mostly use them. But when I've used StC, they have always shipped quite promptly, there have been no delivery problems and their customer service is great (if anything is broken/spilled/missing, they promptly refund or replace it).

Are you in Italy Spaghettina? Time to tour your neighborhood profumerie - mine has Vol de Nuit, Chant d'Aromes and many other older Guerlains in huge ancient-looking 500ml or 1000ml flacons. You might need to check out several, as some of the profumerie only carry sad limited modern duty-free type selections - but others are treasure troves with discontinued jewels, dusty buried bottles and great classics. I have a wonderful customer relationship with the keeper of the one closest to me - he does special orders for me and also alerts me about new releases. He gives me big discounts every time I buy something and a bagful of samples to try new releases. I very rarely need StC, as almost everything I would ever need is probably available either at the neigborhood profumeria or one of the others nearby.

The modern No. 19 is much paler than the original. I have a small sample of the vintage stuff and a bottle of the current reformulation. Which is still nice but sadly lacks oomph a bit.

Northumberlass Encre Noire pour Elle is completely different from Encre Noire and a huge disappointment (I have a sample of the former courtesy of Mr. Profumeria and a bottle of the latter). Encre Noire for men is a mixture of vetiver and Iso E Super - good but less nuanced than Sycomore. Have you explored Crystal Flacon - it's a site where perfume lovers sell decants from their bottles and a very good way to keep perfume purchases affordable - Sycomore can be found there for a very reasonable price. In my opinion, 5-10 ml of any perfume is a very good amount.

Last time I purchased a Chanel Exclusif it was 110 or 120 EUR for a 75 ml bottle (they also do a bigger bottle size). If you are able to buy it a duty free (not all airports sell Exclusifs), you will save the VAT amount. Place Vendome Haute Parfumerie in Belgium sells Chanel and Guerlain Exclusifs by mail order if you e-mail them (they will send you about a dozen large and exquisite samples with your order - really recommended - truly a treat, worth every penny - and a lovely Christmas gift).

DonaAna Wed 21-Nov-12 10:16:02

Oh and for all Tuscan Leather fans, this seller may have affordable UK-based decants.

Thanks Coffee & DonaAna - appreciated. I might see if I can find the Encre Noir aftershave for a sniff.

Haven't looked at Crystal Falcon.....smile Thanks !!

pocketandsweet Wed 21-Nov-12 11:05:24

has anyone tried any fragrances by Monotheme? M & S stock them now and they sound interesting but of course my lame local stores don't have all the interesting new beauty/fragrance things so need to order online. Especially interested if anyone has smelt the citrus ones ( bergamot and zagara).

Itsafineline Wed 21-Nov-12 11:32:32

Thanks DonaAna - yes, the ELdO sampler set is a real bargain from Escentuel as they give you a voucher for the full cost of it, to take off a purchase of a full bottle. However, it is out of stock so I am in a big sulk. I shall wait. I CAN wait, but I hate to.
Spaghettina I had a StC order right in the middle of Sandy. They sent an email saying it might cause problems, but my parcels arrived to the UK in the usual amount of time. (14 days) StC seem to always split my order into two parcels. I'm trying to keep the cost to around $25 to avoid import tax. This is really difficult, 'cause as DonaAna says, they really do have the best gear. Basically, my paypal balance is being frittered on samples.
There is also Alien soaked with leather. That tester was completely squeezed dry, so I can't report on it. I quite like Alien, especially at Christmas.

kiwigirl42 Wed 21-Nov-12 13:14:29

Spaghettina - you need to email them and they will replace the order. They have great customer service

I twitched when Dona mentioned Alla Violetta (from EUR9 delivery to UK) upstream and wondered how she knew what site I was browsing lol!

DonaAna Wed 21-Nov-12 13:25:35

Chamade definitely has hyacinth (and aldehydes) in the opening. The impression is of blinding, almost inhuman purity, and then the perfume makes a U-turn and becomes very sensual and warm. A fine, nuanced perfume, but does not feel right on me. This really belongs to my mother's generation. I can admire this but somehow this remains cerebral and intellectual and does not sweep me off my feet.

Fineline does the Etat Libre d'Orange e-boutique offer a similar voucher? Escentual do not always restock - I once bought the last set of something there and when my friends went back for it they never got it again.

DonaAna Wed 21-Nov-12 13:29:25

Kiwi I can read your mind wink
Alla Violetta is my favorite online perfume store. They are unbeatable if you love modern niche and their spray sample vials are really good and generous. And I love getting surprise freebies.

shoeprincess2 Wed 21-Nov-12 13:33:06

So, I have been looking up the fragrances which I really like and these are the accords that I am drawn to:-

-White floral
-Soft spicy

The notes I am drawn to are:

-Tonka bean

So, I think that all of the Chanel Les Exclusifs are worthy of trying. I defintely go for the Woody Floral Musk fragrances. I shall make a note of these (in my little notebook- how geeky?)

BOFingSanta Wed 21-Nov-12 14:58:18

My order from Dueto has just arrived- yaaaay! grin

I ordered a bottle of Golden Boy, and they have sent me a free leather wallet, and three samples of EDP- City Love, Golden Boy, and City Oud. I have just sprayed the Golden Boy tester, and it is every bit as gorgeous as Tom Ford's Tuscan Leather, for nothing like the ££££££s. I can't recommend it enough. I will let you know how I get in with the other two samples.

BOFingSanta Wed 21-Nov-12 15:04:59

Hmm, so far the Oud is smelling of men's saunas...

FellatioNelson Wed 21-Nov-12 15:07:14

Ooh how exciting! I'll try that for DH then. The other one that seems to get really good reviews is the D&G pour homme (think that's what it's called anyway) the 'recipe' of ingredients sounds lovely and it's only about 30 odd quid so worth taking punt on for everyday wear. Doesn't last too well though apparently.

FellatioNelson Wed 21-Nov-12 15:09:50

Oud is massieve out here in the middle east. Some of them cost a small fortune and are extremely intense and concentrated - proper essential oils really. My son's Qatari friend bought him one (it was about 300 quid shockshock) and quit honestly it smells like cow pats. I would guess that's what DonAna would call 'animalic' grin

But blended subtly with other things Oud is divine.

BOFingSanta Wed 21-Nov-12 15:16:57

Here's the blurb for City Love- when I have a spare wrist, I'll try that next grin

BOFingSanta Wed 21-Nov-12 15:21:10

The leather wallet is very nice actually- pale tan, on the female edge of unisex, and lined in black velvet. Thangyewverymuch.

DonaAna Wed 21-Nov-12 15:26:00

Shoe you have amazing range - there are hundreds of perfumes out there for you. Just the 'powdery' and amber categories are enormous...
You can go to so many directions. The about 100 perfumes listed in Le Snob will cater to the soft spicy /woody /ambery side of you. And classic feminines will also have lots of great ones for you. And vetiver and patchouli and amber are common in most masculines (patchouli is also commonly used as a basenote in feminines these days).

Dueto has intriguing names (Lady Cool, anyone? wink) and most of my friends have gotten freebies from them, but I haven't tried them. Very happy you are happy, isn't it great to wear something quite unique?

Chamade is fading, I get to pick a new perfume for evening...

coffeeinbed Wed 21-Nov-12 15:27:28

Aww, I used to wear Chamade.
Went through a whole bottle.
Seems my taste has changed radically.

DonaAna Wed 21-Nov-12 15:31:13

Fellatio oud is basically rotten wood grin
You live in a perfume paradise, am envy

DonaAna Wed 21-Nov-12 15:33:47

Coffee I go through phases too. Last winter I was all wrapped up in heavy orientals, now I enjoy drier, herbier, quirkier and fizzier perfumes.

shoeprincess2 Wed 21-Nov-12 15:38:38

My scent and sensibility order arrived- they sent me a freebie Tauer one (Une Rose Vermeille0, in addition to the 4 that I bought. On one wrist I am sporting Pentachord White (excellent recommendation DonaAna). Definitely the non twee violet I was looking for. Quite fruity at the moment; will see how it dries down. On the other wrist, L'air du Desert Morocain- very incensey and spicy- definitely very sexy and confidence boosting (which is just the ticket when you have a new baby and are feeling a bit meh). At first, it was quite a punch in the face and I was worried that it was a bit too much. However, it is settling beautifully on the skin. Tomorrow, I shall be testing Loretta and Incense Rose...

coffeeinbed Wed 21-Nov-12 15:41:03

I wanted to try Zeta, the linden one.

BOFingSanta Wed 21-Nov-12 15:46:43

The names are shit, DonaAna, let's not be coy grin. But the Golden Boy is really gorgeous, and identical to Tuscan Leather so far. Maybe something else in it, a bit of fruit, perhaps? They didn't send me a Lady Cool sample, which is a shame. God knows who is behind their branding team, because they sound like they have overdosed on eighties teen magazines...still, the smell, the smell! That's what counts.

DonaAna Wed 21-Nov-12 16:33:29

Ooh I'm glad Shoe. I really enjoy all of the perfumes you mentioned. They are very unique, and now you understand how a small sample of L'Air can last forever. (I gave DH a full bottle and get to enjoy it often on him. I don't get tired of it, it's multifaceted and always a bit different. Tauer bottles are the most beautiful things ever - heavy artisanal glass pentagons with wooden caps.) Use a light finger on Loretta (or you'll die) and also let me hear what you think about Une Rose Vermeille!

I have a sample of Zeta. It has very gorgeous rare Bulgarian linden extract, but to me it is also a strong sandalwood and not as easy to like as many other Tauers (certain sandalwoods are too newborn poo on me).

Yes, BOF, the names are really silly... But who cares, and you can always rename them. And how lovely of them to include the wallet.

I'm breaking some boundaries and wearing Alien Essence Absolue (freebie from somewhere): the strangest sample vial I've ever seen, splashed a lot on my wrist by accident. If you don't hear me, I've OD'd and died confused

Opening note less scary than I thought: slightly plasticky amber laced with jasmine. Promising but unsatisfying. Will something happen? Is this it?

shoeprincess2 Wed 21-Nov-12 16:41:39

DonaAna- I am sniffing the Pentachords White and there is something in there that reminds me of some other perfume that I had many years ago. I've been scratching my head and it has just come to me- Escentric Molecules 01. I owned a bottle of it about 6 years ago. Is it the iris in there, or something else? I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that is what it reminds me of. Still enjoying L'Air...very generous sample sizes at Scent & Sensibilty. Yes, it will last me an age, and will be very handy for the handbag. Hopefully, you'll make sense of my post (unless you are slumped in a corner surrounded by a haze of Alien fumes!)

ThatsNice Wed 21-Nov-12 16:52:53

I'm enjoying dahlia noir by givenchy today. Very light and lovely. Doesn't have great staying power though but that's ok as I'll get to choose something else to wear this evening when I go out... Just need to choose something else now, lol! smile

DonaAna Wed 21-Nov-12 16:58:17

I'm pretty near death... confused Alien is a scary toxic gourmand. I very rarely get headache or nausea from anything but this vile juice is inducing a hyperglycemic shock. Not my thing. Our nanny has accidentally bought perfumed toilet paper, it smells a bit similar.

Molecule 01 is pure Iso E Super. I can't remember whether Pentachord White has that (Tauer pentachords are excercises in minimalism, as they are made from just five ingredients - violet: ionones/irones are prominent in White). I think Andy Tauer loves ambroxan though and rounds up most of his perfumes with it, and iirc Molecule 02 is pure ambroxan (also Not a Perfume by Juliet Has a Gun).

If you are interested in developing you already very goodx nose, an in-depth analysis of Pentachords here.

shoeprincess2 Wed 21-Nov-12 17:06:33

Thanks for the link. Just quickly skimmed (will read in detail in a bit)- think the other pentachords require sampling too.

DonaAna Wed 21-Nov-12 17:43:02

White is my favorite of them - Verdant is interesting for anyone who loves greens.

Had to scrub of Alien. Ugh. Covered it with something that I like unconditionally: Shem-el-Nessim by Grossmith.

CointreauVersial Thu 22-Nov-12 00:03:29

You norty people, you've made me buy more samples.

Dueto sample pack is on its way, thanks to BOF's tempting descriptions. And what a bargain.

I'm now waiting on three deliveries. blush

kiwigirl42 Thu 22-Nov-12 08:23:38

you can buy Iso E super on ebay as a decant for really cheap! lol. I may get some as a perfume base. I didn't like Alien either

DonaAna Thu 22-Nov-12 09:37:57

Today back to wearing No. 19. Ah, a perfect fit. And at each wear, I perceive it slightly differently or find a new phase, facet, stage, byway. This is why I like complex perfumes that take you on a journey.

I have days and weeks when I feel that I don't explore any new perfumes as I already have so many that feel perfect.

And then I get restless and curious about new releases or old classics that I don't know yet grin What has happened though is that I don't find time any more to repeat wear perfumes that I find average and okay. There are too many really great five star perfumes out there...

I love matching perfumes to my mood / the season and weather / the feel of the day. Selecting what perfume to wear each morning is a ritual I enjoy every morning.

shoeprincess2 Thu 22-Nov-12 10:01:20

"Loretta is a young woman who works as a maid at a motel. She is shy and withdrawn, but creates her own life in a fantasy world where she danced and falls in love with a man. She is sensual, sexy and seductive, but she has a secretive dark side"
A description of this morning's perfume, in case you thought I should have posted this in chat or AIBU smile. Loretta is starting off quite fruity but spicy, quite plummy i think. It is reminding a little of JPG's Classique (in a good way). I am liking this so far, but it's only been on for 30 minutes. I am keen to see how it develops during the day.

kiwigirl42 Thu 22-Nov-12 10:30:57

I'm wearing Jo Malone Rosewater and Vanilla Cologne (sample from ebay). Its not anything like I expected - it has quite a strong oud/ incensey vibe and smells really medicinal when first applied, almost like Dettol, which is not unattractive.

I really wasn't sure when I tried it a few days ago, I think because it was such a shock, but I'm really liking it today

proteins Thu 22-Nov-12 10:35:17


I have a sample of Tauer's Zeta from Les Scenteurs. It's very fresh, green and rather sour/sharp. Good luck with it!

DonaAna Thu 22-Nov-12 10:37:34

Shoe there is a Loretta short film by Brian Pera somewhere on the Internet. I haven't seen it, but that film was the brief that was given to Andy Tauer to create this perfume.

Not having seen the film, my perception of Loretta is much less romantic. To me, it is a dense jungle of tangled kudzu, carnivorous plants and strange purple fruits. And at the same time, an homage to big shoulder pads and 1980s perfumes (Poison, anyone?). This perfume is strange, dangerous, unique and has really stolen my heart.

I just received a decant of Seville a l'Aube from a very kind Crystal Flaconer. Not quite as romantic as buying a full bottle, but makes much more sense. Am really looking forward to wearing it later.

DonaAna Thu 22-Nov-12 10:40:32

Kiwi some perfumes are really shocking at first wear but grow on me. I think I was shocked by both Loretta and Miriam, but both have become favorites.

I have a strange fondness for medicinal/camphoric smells. I love Aromatics Elixir and petrol-like opening fumes of Loretta.

spaghettina Thu 22-Nov-12 11:17:37

Thanks for the info re StC deliveries... I'll try emailing them as you suggest, kiwigirl and see if they replace it!

I might just stick to perfume shops while I can - yesterday afternoon I ventured into Mazzolari after your tip, DonaAna - WOW! What an amazing place, it has every perfume under the sun or so it would seem... I felt like the proverbial kid in the candy shop - If anyone finds themselves in Milan for a weekend I highly recommend it!

There is the big general shop and an even posher "boutique" next door which looks quite intimidating and has the exclusive Guerlains and other exclusive niche perfumes, I didn't venture into that bit partly because I spotted a former Italian Big Brother contestant turned TV presenter in there (DonaAna do you remember camper than camp Jonathaaaan??) and just couldn't face trying to keep a straight face!

But even in the "bog standard" shop they had samplers of almost everything, including the Parfum concentrations of all the standard Guerlains.

I sniffed quite a few on paper and inevitably started not being able to tell the difference properly.
I liked L'Heure Exquise (Annick Goutal), and the rather obscenely animalic Mad Madame by Juliette has a Gun.. also Baghari by Robert Piguet.
Serge Lutens Louve - the cherry note reminded me of a Perlier almost blossom shower gel I once had, but I'm sure it works better on skin
Jicky parfum - my immediate reaction was "nose-numbing medicinal lavender" - did Jackie O really smell like this?? Maybe better as EdT
L'Heure Bleue - intriguing, must go back with a clear head and smell it again

Didn't have enough arm space to try more than a couple on, and weirdly those happened to be Chamade and Vol de Nuit which I see you mentioned above.
The former I enjoyed as much as I could given my "nose fatigue", whereas Vol de Nuit is just too old-ladyish and powerful for me.
It's really long lasting of course with massive sillage and I had to scrub it off with washing up liquid as it was still bothering me 5 hours later.. I am not worthy blush

DonaAna Thu 22-Nov-12 12:49:04

You've found a perfume heaven Spaghettina! With or without celebs... Another place to visit is the perfume bar Olfattorio (Google for locations). There you can just sniff and chat with knowledgeable baristas. And in the spring, there will be the Exsense perfume fair in Milan. And I guess you've been to 10 Corso Comp already. Italy is the ideal place to enjoy perfumes - range and selection is good and you also have great access to boutique perfumes (Chanel, Dior, Hermes, Prada, Armani...)

Vol de Nuit is too much on me too. I think an aunt wore it in the 1970s.

I'm wearing Seville now. Normally I don't like orange blossom (it can easily go the air-freshener and toilet bowl cleaner route - the reference flowers on trees never smell that cheap) but the beeswax and incense tone it down.

DonaAna Thu 22-Nov-12 12:49:46

Como not Comp obviously...

CointreauVersial Thu 22-Nov-12 12:54:20

You're not putting me off Jicky, you know.

I have a soft spot for lavender.

pocketandsweet Thu 22-Nov-12 13:06:07

Thanks cointreau for the pm.... Let me know if you are pleased when they arrive.

DonaAna Thu 22-Nov-12 13:07:54

Jicky has definitely been reformulated since Jackie O's days.
But I have a hard time imagining it on her nevertheless.

Haberdashery Thu 22-Nov-12 13:11:47

My samples arrived and I am wearing Sycomore. I really like it so far. It's quite cold and dry smelling, very different from the things I usually wear. It seems to fade pretty quickly, sadly. I'm not sure I'd buy a whole bottle based on the lack of longevity alone but I do like it very much, particularly the ashy smell.

FellatioNelson Thu 22-Nov-12 13:17:23

Have you got your Jicky yet Cointreau? I love lavender too, but that one cleared my sinuses of stuff that was practically up behind my brain. shock Honestly, I could not get rid of it for about three days. It was the proper concentrated parfum and the counter girl was a tad over generous. It was a bit like having a really bad hangover for the first few hours. grin

I found lots of Juliette Has A Gun fragrances today. Tried them all. Didn't like them much. Very in your face.

CointreauVersial Thu 22-Nov-12 13:23:33

No, Jicky should be arriving any day now. I ordered the EDP, I think.

I might completely hate it, but I will definitely take your advice and apply in a restrained manner!

spaghettina Thu 22-Nov-12 13:29:04

Ooh, Exsense perfume fair sounds exciting, I might have to try and find some fellow perfume fans to go with..
Yes, I've been to the sublime 10 Corso Como but not for a couple of years. Another trip is called for methinks.

Cointreau, I have a soft spot for lavender too, but Jicky reminded me of Weleda Lavender shower gel - yes it's lavender but it's overpowered by that medicinal note that organic shower gels often seem to have, maybe it's calendula or something. I'm sure it was just the opening though, and would dry down nicely.

shoeprincess2 Thu 22-Nov-12 14:44:29

I am in love with Loretta. It has developed into a beautifully powdery fragrance. A hint of vanilla, a hint of patchouli. Truly fabulous. I keep sniffing myself. A stunning perfume

Haberdashery Thu 22-Nov-12 14:53:27

OK, I have gone right off Sycomore. I think it's given me a headache.

kiwigirl42 Thu 22-Nov-12 15:41:27

Spaghettina Louve is one of my favorite, favorite perfumes. A real comfort scent. Would love to be able to buy it as a pure parfum.

Haberdashery how glad are you that you didn't buy a full bottle then? hope the headache goes

I've applied more Rosewater and Vanilla as it fades after about 4 hrs. Both the labrador and the chocolate Ragdoll tried to lick and snuggle my arm and then DS 12 had my wrist under his nose and wouldn't let my arm go in the car. So I think they like it.

I've just noticed that Liberty sell Francis Kurkdjian's range of perfume , including scented bubbles!

DonaAna Thu 22-Nov-12 15:43:21

Shoe I'm in love too - in fact think I need some Loretta later today when L'Aube wears off.

Haberdashery, Sycomore is too dry on me. Every time I wear it, I get so thirsty... it feels like parching desert air on me (I used to live somewhere where it got painfully hot and dry during the dry season, and Sycomore reminds me of hot, dusty, smoke-filled air combined with extreme heat feel like).

Spaghettina, I mispelled Esxence. I'm definitely coming next year if I can. It is really great. You might have a different version of Jicky - mine smells really decadent and indecent, lavender + civet. (Civet is not real anymore, but it used to be - here is a good description.)

DonaAna Thu 22-Nov-12 15:45:20

Sorry, hastily written, may not make any sense...

shoeprincess2 Thu 22-Nov-12 16:50:21

I have been having a tidy out of my perfume drawer and I have 50ml of Agent Provocateur Maitresse EdP (it was a 100ml bottle). Anyway, I wondered if anyone would like it (free to a good home). Maybe if anyone has any unwanted samples that they would like to swap with me?
If no takers, then I shall be handing it over to Mummyshoeprincess.

anniewoo Thu 22-Nov-12 16:51:41

Anyone else LOVE Chanel Jersey?
Can't afford their bags, clothes etc though i love them (way too expensive even if i were rich- couldn't justify- with starving children in the world) but when i spray it on I just feel sooo sophisticated grin

BOFingSanta Thu 22-Nov-12 16:53:28

Ooh, shoeprincess, I'd really like that! I'll have a look for something I can swap it for.

shoeprincess2 Thu 22-Nov-12 16:54:45

Ok BOFingSanta- PM me. It'll be early next week when I can get it posted out to you.

BOFingSanta Thu 22-Nov-12 16:58:58

Ok, I've sent you a message with a suggestion- thanks very much smile.

shoeprincess2 Thu 22-Nov-12 17:06:55

anniewoo- I think I might like all of Chanel's exclusifs, though maybe not Sycomore. I've only tried Coromandel so far, but it is my intention to try them all. StC do a sampler pack. It is a woody floral musk is Jersey, so I should probably like it.

DonaAna Thu 22-Nov-12 17:34:37

Jersey is a lavender soliflore. Happy that you like it Annie.
I really like Chanel perfumes. No. 19 is my current favorite, but all of the exlusives are worth trying - just to understand what well-made perfumes are. La Pausa is my favorite summer perfume and I am looking forward to real winter so that I can wear more Cuir de Russie and Coromandel. They are all about elegance and refinement. And Antaeus is my comfort scent.

Tauers get me in a completely different way. His perfumes are organic and short-circuit my limbic system. They tap into emotions, memories, colors. I often wear them when I am alone.

coffeeinbed Thu 22-Nov-12 18:49:10

I do love linden. Will try this one, was a bit worried when DonaAna mentioned sandalwood, have memories of drowning in Annick Goutal's Sables.

My favourite lindens now are MAC Naked honey and L'Artisan L'Ete en Douce.
It's such a magic smell - the perfect golden summer.

NotTodayThankYou Thu 22-Nov-12 19:10:06

I have been stalking these threads for a while now and I have loved reading them. I visited my local department store today excitedly clutching a list of perfumes to try, based on the wonderful expertise on here.

I had a lovely time sniffing various perfumes and then decided to stop by the YSL counter to try an old love of mine - Yvresse.


I still like it, but it lasts all of 5 mins on the skin before fading away to next to nothing. sad


Haberdashery Thu 22-Nov-12 19:21:20

>> Sycomore is too dry on me. Every time I wear it, I get so thirsty... it feels like parching desert air on me (I used to live somewhere where it got painfully hot and dry during the dry season, and Sycomore reminds me of hot, dusty, smoke-filled air combined with extreme heat feel like).

This is really interesting, because I totally get the dryness and dust and the smoke is very strong, but I perceive it as cold - something like a dusty attic in winter with the ashes of an old fire in the grate, maybe some dried flowers hanging around. I sort of admire it but I couldn't wear it.

kiwigirl42 Thu 22-Nov-12 19:41:40

NotTodayThankYou its so disappointing, isn't it? I went earlier in the week and they have totally castrated Opium and Paris too. Why? just why?

I've just tried Montale's Sweet Oriental Dream again (StC sample) and still don't like it. It smells really plasticky on me.

DonaAna Thu 22-Nov-12 20:48:05

This (reformulations) is happening all the time now - mainly due to new regulations that restrict the use of potentially allergenic substances in perfumes. Nearly all perfume formulas will change or have already changed. For this reason, many perfume lovers are looking for older, pre-reformulation bottles on eBay. If you find something and love it now, buy it - perfumes will keep changing. YSL have rereleased a bunch of older favorites - you can bet everything has been retouched.

Haber Sycomore is more cool than warm per se, but it reminds me of those suffocating hot 9% humidity days. It is a great perfume and many connoiseurs love it - just not right on me. I generally love vetiver though.

DonaAna Thu 22-Nov-12 20:56:46

Coffee I wore a lot of Bal a Versailles and Shem-el-Nessim when lindenflowers were at their best in Rome - and I felt those perfumes blended in with the trees. Zeta didn't - linden extract smells a bit different. The general rule: if you use methods like steam distillation to extract naturals, instead of oranges you get marmalade. (This us why steam-distilled rose absolute smells like rose jam, not like fresh, dewy roses.) Zeta is worth trying though!

Haberdashery Thu 22-Nov-12 21:00:11

So, testing the second of my samples, following a thorough wash to remove the headache-inducing Sycomore.

Lonestar Memories. I am LOVING this. It starts with a really medicinal tang which is reminding me of something like root beer, only that's not quite right - it's saltier than that. I don't know what it is, but I like it. And the TCP that MsArseBiscuit mentioned is there, too. This is smoky, as well, but so warm in a good way. There's a sort of hint of old leathery books in there, too, and something a bit tarry. I don't think I would wear this often but it is absolutely gorgeous. It's very soft, softer than I had imagined from the description and there is something a bit green and outdoorsy in there, too, maybe even some kind of flower. Absolutely bowled over by this. It's an amazing smell, the very opposite of headache-inducing. I cannot stop sniffing myself. It's deep and rich and sort of floaty all at the same time. Amazing.

coffeeinbed Thu 22-Nov-12 21:05:09

I'll give Bal a V. another try, I remember smelling and liking it long time ago.

Lonestar memories - that might be something when my Eau du Fier runs out. Can't believe they stopped making it. It's a crime.

DonaAna Thu 22-Nov-12 21:19:18

Yep, another reason why you need to buy anything you really like now. There are too many niche lines now, many of them will fold - and slow sellers may be axed too.

DonaAna Thu 22-Nov-12 21:23:05

Yep, another reason why you need to buy anything you really like now. There are too many niche lines now, many of them will fold - and slow sellers may be axed too.

Haber I hear you! Tauers get me this way too. I may not wear them every day but I think about them a lot. Lonestar is tarry and unforgettable and taps into my childhood memories.

Now it's definitely time for some Miriam...

Haberdashery Thu 22-Nov-12 21:40:36

It is LOVELY! I am still sniffing myself like a loon. I really want to try the green Pentachord one, now. Which others should I get samples of?

DonaAna Thu 22-Nov-12 21:49:02

The others I really like are Miriam (a modern take on aldehydic classics), Une Rose Chypree, Incense Rose - plus lots of what you already have. Verdant good and unique too.

Haberdashery Thu 22-Nov-12 22:05:29

Thanks very much. I will look those up. I love the sound of Verdant and Miriam.

Something very sweet and warm and fruity is coming through with Lonestar Memories now. It's almost like ice cream. Er, warm Neapolitan ice cream. Maybe hot strawberry sauce on vanilla ice cream or something. Wafer biscuits. Crumble. Something edible, anyway. I love it (and I don't normally like that kind of thing).

CointreauVersial Thu 22-Nov-12 23:25:39

Haberdashery - very tempting description! <adds another to list>

My eBay package arrived today; unfortunately the Serge Lutens Un Bois Vanille sample had smashed in transit, and it was a damp but fragrant package I opened. But what a lovely smell, smoky vanilla. I'm looking forward to trying it properly (the seller immediately offered to replace it) and am planning a good sniff session tomorrow with the rest of the samples (once my hands stop smelling!)

At the other end of the scale, we had an Avon representative in the office today, so I picked up a couple of samples. Who knows, there might be a gem in there somewhere?

And, having been given a £20 Amazon voucher by lovely MN, I just treated myself to the Turin/Sanchez Perfume book. I have only read the first few pages, but it is completely absorbing.

kiwigirl42 Thu 22-Nov-12 23:37:05

That perfume book is never put away in my house. I look in at alamost daily and have written on almost every page. Its great.
I love un bois de Vanille. Really lovely smokey vanilla taht is not too sweet. I love the soundmof lonestar memories too!

ThatsNice Fri 23-Nov-12 08:04:02

Cointreau my favorite perfume (prior to discovering this thread and all the gorgeous perfumes herein), is an Avon perfume, little black dress. I never tire of wearing it. Such a lovely perfume smile

kiwigirl42 Fri 23-Nov-12 10:16:50

oh man, I'm dying. I put on some Cuir Mauresque Serge Lutens. I put on far too much of the sample I think and I feel like I'm in a leather coffin. Don't think I'll be buying this one ...