Can dry shampoo cause hair loss/thinning?

(48 Posts)
coffeecake Mon 08-Oct-12 13:26:30

Hi I have posted about thinning hair recently and I have done a lot of reading on the subject.
By chance I came across a thread on mumsnet about greasy hair where someone mentioned dry shampoo as a possible solution, and then another mumsnetter said "Beware of dry shampoo, it thinned my hair a lot".

That sentence stuck to my mind, because I have been using the dry shampoo Baptiste (probably in excess) for the past few years.
When I say in excess, I mean every single day (expect on the day of washing my hair and the day after), but then I would only wash my hair once a week or less blush thinking that it would be much better for the health of my hair.
I heard so many times that washing your hair often was bad for it, but now I'm wondering if a dry shampoo could have done some harm instead.
My hair has less volume than it used to have, but is definately showing signs of thinning more on the areas where I used to spray the dry shampoo. sad

I read somewhere on the internet that dry shampoo soaks up the grease and gathers it to your scalp and it then clogs the pores which makes regrowth difficult.
I was wondering if anyone had experienced a thinning of the hair after using dry shampoo excessively?
P.S: I did do all the blood tests and they came back normal.

CointreauVersial Mon 08-Oct-12 13:31:30

I bloody hope not, I use it all the time.

coffeecake Mon 08-Oct-12 13:34:45

This is what I have found on another website

" Default Batiste Dry Shampoo problems!!!
Hi Guys

I have been using this product (batiste dry shampoo) for about 4 months, its very good if your on the go and dont have the time to wash and dry your hair however after using it every week or so (sometimes every other day if i have a busy week) i have started to notice my hair is falling out. Not drastically but still falling out, its thinner and the areas it seems to be thinner is where the product was used (around the forehead and top of head)

I have since researched this product as it DOES NOT state anywhere on its packaging that you should not use weekly etc. It does not give you any idea of how often you can use this product which really concerns me. I have always had lovely, healthy and fairly thick hair. Now it's thin and falls out easily when showering.

Apparently a few websites (health related websites) say that if used frequently this kind of product can impact on hair loss as the ingredients used to make it can leave fatty acids on your scalp resulting in slow hair loss. This is very worrying to me.

What should i do? Of course i have stopped using the product but i feel that the company should have some sort of notice on their labelling/packaging with user instructions which it doesnt??

Has anyone else suffered with this problem?

Will never use the stuff again."

I hope I was allowed to copy and paste this from another site. I don't know what the rules and regulations are.
Cointreau, love the name!!

chipstick10 Mon 08-Oct-12 13:57:17

No. I think you are looking for solutions and making excuses, ive been there and i totally understand but you need to see a trichologist or someone in that field . Of course iron levels and thyroid etc can be a cause but it could be genetic

FerrisBueller1972 Mon 08-Oct-12 13:59:54

Why don't you just wash your hair more often and lay off the Batiste? confused

Dillydollydaydream Mon 08-Oct-12 14:11:52

Whenever I've used it it makes my scalp itchy and flakey. I have the tropical one though so maybe that's it.

coffeecake Mon 08-Oct-12 14:26:45

Chipstick, point taken, of course I would prefer my hairloss to be caused by an external factor rather than a genetic, irreversible condition.
And of course I'd rather avoid going to a clinic that costs me an arm and a leg what with the consultation and the follow up monthly treatments, all that to see no improvement at all.
But still it would be a bit of a coincidence, seen as all of my bloodtests are normal, my mum and dad both have a full head of hair still at age 58 and 62, and I have been using that dry shampoo almost as a substitute for regular shampoo.
I have booked an appointment to see a dermatologist anyway, but I have a fairly good idea that he is going to say the same. I just hope something can be done and it's not damaged the hair permanently.
Like Ferris said, I should have been washing my hair more often, like normal people.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if that stuff clogs up the pores and stops regrowth if used in excess.
All that said, it could also be Female pattern baldness.
I have stopped using Baptiste now and using that Aveda Invati shampoo regurlarly and hope I see an improvement.

chipstick10 Mon 08-Oct-12 14:39:23

Philip Kingsley advocates washing hair every day. You wash your body everyday, and the hair on your body, why wouldnt you wash your hair.!!!!. It makes sense really and i now wash my hair every day most of the time, its certainly healthier there is no doubt about that. What is your gut feeling on what is causing your hairloss?.

coffeecake Mon 08-Oct-12 16:08:04

Funny you ask, since the beginning, I couldn't help thinking maybe it's this stuff that's causing my hair to thin and fall out, as it caused a lot of itching to my scalp everytime, and I seemed to be shedding quite a lot of hair at one point.
But I quickly dismissed the idea thinking " No, surely they would have done tests on it, it wouldn't be on the market if it was harmful to your hair". So I carried on using it, and got it in my head that I must have some female (or male) pattern baldness or too much testosterone or something.
But now I am seriously wondering, as I have read quite a lot of stuff online saying that it should certainly not be used to skip shampoos blush.
You get a lot of mixed advice everywhere, a lot of people say to not wash your hair everyday as it could damage it.
I can't believe Philip Kingsley say to wash it everyday though, do they mean, even if it doesn't need it?
Since I've started washing my hair every 2/3 days, I have noticed some growth all along my hairline, and a lot of short hair all over, and my hair, for the first time in months has that "glossy" effect that I used to get normally before.
I hope this is a good sign, and I am praying that the thickness will come back.

MoomieAndFreddie Mon 08-Oct-12 17:23:41

No idea but I have to say I don't like the idea of it, and don't use it.

WildThongyoumakemyringsting Mon 08-Oct-12 20:42:04

Let us know how you get on at the dermatologist coffeecake- i'm considering it too.
For the moment i'm trying iron, philip kingsley hair supplements AND paraben free shampoo. Like you all tests clear and no history of f.p.b. In my family.
Maybe we need a support thread. Im seeing these posts from loads of mns.

echt Tue 09-Oct-12 07:53:49

Hard to believe that washing the body every day is a reason for washing the hair every day.

We don't need to bath/shower every day anyway. For hygiene/ appearance's sake, face, neck, hands, pits and bits are quite sufficient. All the rest is modern habit/custom/personal taste.

Is Kingsley selling product? Bet he is.

TheBirdsTheBirds Tue 09-Oct-12 08:11:38

Every time you wash your hair, the action of shampooing dislodges all those hair that are naturally ready to fall out. The less often you wash it, esp if you wear it up or don't brush it a lot on the non-wash days, the more hair will appear to be falling out the next time you wash it.

Obv this doesn't explain your thinning hair, but could it explain why the dry shampoo seems to "cause" more to fall out?

coffeecake Tue 09-Oct-12 10:59:05

Yes that could explain it, but my problem is that I am noticing a thinning.
Echt, I was thinking the exact same thing, I don't want to sound cynical but it's in Kingsley's interest to get us to wash our hair everyday as he probably sells ridiculously expensive shampoo.
Yes wild I agree with the support thread, shall I start one? I sure could do with some support at the moment, it really is getting me down and I don't want it to take over my life.
wild are you the worrying/stressy type? That's the only thing I can think of for my thinning, I worry ALL THE TIME and it is beginning to worry me wink
Seriously though, I have not stopped stressing since I've had my DCs, even regarding random or minor things.
I find it really hard to chillax about things, and I really admire you mums out there who are relaxed and cool about everything. And yes, such mums do exist, I know some and I wish I was like that. sad
Where shall I start that support thread? I've never done one before.

shineonucrazydiamond Tue 09-Oct-12 12:18:08

Try folic acid tablets. Worked for me as I was low on folate - this caused my hair to shed quite alarmingly at one point last year. Worth a go anyway!

As for dry shampoo, I wouldn't use it as dislike the idea. Just wash your hair every day or every other day and that'll solve any 'product leaving deposits ' issue '

squoosh Tue 09-Oct-12 12:25:10

I love dry shampoo and have used it for aeons. I spray it straight on freshly washed and dried hair as a styling product, it gives my fine hair lots of oomph.

Haven't heard these concerns before but I can imagine why you would be anxious to closely examine anything you use on your hair as a possible culprit.

coffeecake Tue 09-Oct-12 13:01:27

Thanks shine I am on folic acid tablets, I take a supplement designed for hair skin and nails and it has Folacin in it. Is that the same? It says it contains 200% of the RDA.
When you say it worked for you, how long did it take to fully grow back?
At first did you notice any short hair growth?

WildThongyoumakemyringsting Tue 09-Oct-12 13:38:00

Hi coffee
yes I am a bit of a worrier - but not more than I always was and my hair used to be vthick. I noticed the thinning from the front last November and it is certainly not getting better - I don't know if it is because I'm always looking at it but it does seem worse if anything. (expensive shampoos/supplements etc)
Tbh I don't know either how to start a support thread - can anyone else with that?
I was interested in the post on your other thread from the mn who went to a dermatologist and was diagnosed with ?can't remember which a normal GP wouldn't be aware of. I think she was prescribed some type of steroid if I remember correctly.
I'm lucky enough to have private medical cover through work so I am going to ask for a referral after the school half term.

WildThongyoumakemyringsting Tue 09-Oct-12 13:48:37

p.s. just spotted another Hair Thinning thread in GH
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/general_health/1583100-Thinning-hair

Medal Tue 09-Oct-12 13:50:39

Hi coffee, I posted on an earlier thread of yours and agree it would be good to start a support thread! Do we just start a new thread in the normal way for it?

I think it is a great sign that you are getting new growth, hopefully will just be a matter of time for your hair to thicken back up. Now, if you can just send some of that new growth over here......

shineonucrazydiamond Tue 09-Oct-12 14:43:32

coffee - I was losing my hair dramatically - it is fairly fine anyway and below my shoulders and I was pulling out loads in the shower each morning. For months. I had blood tests - all fine although my folate levels were low - however, still normal.

I took specific folic acid tablets - decent ones - and the hair loss stopped within a fortnight. And then , it's been fine ever since - although I shed some hair in winter but that's pretty normal stuff.

Probably worth a try anyway. I was getting myself in a right twist about it so I sympathise.

coffeecake Tue 09-Oct-12 20:44:15

wild nice one for that link, how did I miss that thread? It seems to be a very common problem these days, probably due to all different reasons.
I think to be honest, it's always been a problem, but women in the olden days weren't focusing on it too much (what with the war and all that).
The other day I tried to get a bit of sympathy from my gran by telling her about my hair, and she said "Really? Oh yeah by the way guess what happened to your dad?".
I thought "that says it all doesn't it", my gran is normally a good listener but that subject really didn't shock her at all. But then again, she did grow up during the war, lost her mum when she was 6, her husband at age 53, and a 34 year old son.
So my thinning hair was not going to concern her too much.

coffeecake Tue 09-Oct-12 21:06:42

medal I just can't find that thread where that mn said about the steroid tablets. But I remember vaguely, it's annoying I've looked everywhere.
What is the normal way for starting a support thread then? Do I do it in "style and beauty" or "health"?
Style and beauty I would have thought.

coffeecake Tue 09-Oct-12 21:28:48

Sorry P.S: What shall I call the new support thread?
I thought of "Support thread for hairloss in women"
or "Support thread for ladies with hairloss"
Let me know if you think of anything better

ThePetiteMummy Tue 09-Oct-12 21:48:32

As a trichologist, I can tell you there is no way dry shampoo could cause hair loss. Hair loss, of any type, happens due to internal factors. Anything put on externally can obviously damage the condition of the hair, but cannot cause it to fall out. With regard to the op shampooing less often, bear in mind that most dead hair is dislodged by the act of shampooing, so the longer you leave between washes, the more hair you can expect to see in the plug hole. Losing 80-100 strands per day is normal! The significant thing would be a change in your normal amount of loss.

Kalypso Wed 10-Oct-12 08:42:14

I would like to join a support thread please! I'm nearly thirty but have had noticeable female pattern hairloss since the age of 20. My experience is in line with the above poster's opinion (i.e. that it's an internal thing). I had a major depression at 20 and suffered hairloss along my parting as a result. I always had very fine hair to begin so the loss was more noticeable. Interested to read about the folic acid though, I might give that a try!

I've been using dry shampoo for a couple of years - I don't think it has made the loss worse.

For me, using sprinkle on fake hair (yes,really!!) has given me a big confidence boost. It hides the areas where my scalp is showing through,and nobody has ever noticed it. It's a bit like putting concealer on a spot. Obviously I'd prefer to reverse the thinning, but knowing it's not so obvious has really helped me stop worrying so much.

I have a small piece of advice: if you are using any sort of spray on your hair, be sure to hold the actuator/nozzle at a good distance from your scalp. If you spray too close then you will cause damage to your skin (it's the same with deodorant and I used to work in that industry)

I've posted in the past about having steroids from the dermatologist, but that was for alopecia, ie distinct bare patches as opposed to general thinning.

coffeecake Wed 10-Oct-12 11:50:12

Oh yes thanks whoknows, I remember now. Yes that's a different matter isn't it?
I will start a support thread but I still can't decide of a name for it.

"Thepetitemummy* I hope you don't mind me asking, but you say that " Hair loss, of any type, happens due to internal factors. " so surely, anything used externally wouldn't stop the hairloss, you would need something internal to treat hairloss, like supplements etc...
A MN told me that at your clinic, they prescribed her some drops that you apply to the scalp to minimise hair loss. How can that work then?

Medal Wed 10-Oct-12 14:17:31

How about Keeping our hair on (hair support thread) or is that just daft?

Batistehair Wed 10-Oct-12 14:22:41

Official response from batiste Dry Shampoo.

If you have used Batiste dry shampoo and have had encountered any problems, please can I urge you to contact our consumer care line directly at consumer.relationsuk@churchdwight.com or tel: 01303 858821. As with all complaints, we will conduct a full investigation since we want all of our consumers to be happy with their purchase. Please be assured that ingredients in Batiste are widely used in hair care products and that this product has a long history of safe use by consumers. However, we do take all consumer complaints seriously and will conduct a thorough assessment to find out the cause of this problem.

coffeecake Wed 10-Oct-12 14:46:16

Medal that's fantastic! Shall I do it in style and beauty?

coffeecake Wed 10-Oct-12 14:48:27

Or how about "Keeping our hair on (hair loss support thread)"?

Medal Wed 10-Oct-12 16:02:42

That's funny, Batiste have replied here!

Yes I think Style and Beauty will be busier than General Health smile

Deux Wed 10-Oct-12 16:13:51

Have you stopped any kind of hormonal treatment eg come off the pill?

I read somewhere recently that this can cause the hair to thin and that it can take up to a year for it to recover.

ThePetiteMummy Wed 10-Oct-12 17:08:12

That's a reasonable question Coffeecake, but topical treatments certainly do work, along with relevant supplements where necessary. The drops you mention are prescribed for a specific type of hair loss, and work by penetrating the hair follicle. They block the action of male hormones on the hair follicle, which can be responsible for some types of hair thinning.

chipstick10 Wed 10-Oct-12 19:50:12

My hair is looking and feeling good today. I have good days and bad and today is fab.

coffeecake Wed 10-Oct-12 20:23:42

Thanks deux, my hair loss if it isn't due to Baptiste definitely feels hormonal.
I haven't stopped the pill (well not recently) or anything but at a time when I noticed some changes in me (boobs facing downwards, fat concentrating in areas like the stomach, facial skin a bit saggier, fewer body hairs not growing as fast (a part from on the chin wink), mood swings, stronger PMS etc... I also noticed that my hair was a lot thinner than it used to be.
That's why at first I assumed I was going through an early menopause or something (I'm only 36) and did all the test.
But they came back normal so I'm none the wiser. sad

coffeecake Wed 10-Oct-12 20:27:31

I feel like replying to Batiste but what's the point? They are probably going to say that I have been misusing it and that there is no proof that it caused my hair loss, which there isn't.
So I don't see the point.

You should reply to the company. I have googled the parent company and from my own knowledge of this type of business it is almost certain that their quality management team will have to record and investigate any possible adverse affects reported to them. One complaint probably won't make a difference, but it is all useful for them to have on record as they continually monitor and review their products.

coffeecake Thu 11-Oct-12 10:56:55

Maybe I will then, never know.

My last post sounded a bit bossy, sorry! I just think that, while yes, in all likelihood they will find that their formulation is not at fault, it could just be that there are other people out there wondering the same thing, maybe reading this thread, if that is the case it ought to be investigated and the more people that provide formal feedback the better. It is a good sign that they have found this thread and posted a response.

coffeecake Thu 11-Oct-12 13:11:55

No you didn't sound bossy at all you're right. I will get in touch with them.
Thanks for the advice x

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mkmummy1 Wed 23-Oct-13 19:29:47

Coffeecake - were you convinced that it was related to dry shampoo? Cos I'm thinking I have the same problem.

mkmummy1 Wed 23-Oct-13 19:30:36

Coffee cake - were you convinced it was dry shampoo in the end? Cos I'm thinking I might have the same issue.

Fugacity Wed 23-Oct-13 19:36:56

Dry shampoo works by electrostatics. It can't make your hair fall out.

kholood Sun 15-Jun-14 14:26:23

I think it is dry shampoo... I have been using it all of 2013 and noticed in December my hair is thinning in the areas I sprayed on... then I dismissed it and continued to use it (it was too tempting). I wish I never did .... now its so bad even my son asks me what's happened to my hair. Take my advice throw it in the bin! Dont even be tempted to use it for a one off. I even warn others every time I see them pick Papstine in the drugstore.

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