Botox Virgin Needs Advice

[Love2Dance]

I know this is a common topic but I've been mulling it over. Skin is not bad at all but I have hooded eyelids beginning to sag a bit and a number 1 line on the forehead. Anyone had botox for an eyebrow lift to help with sagging eyelids? Did it work? Or were there unexpected effects in other areas of the face as a result?

I go to Dr Sam Bunting in London for dermatology treatments/creams and am wondering whether to try her for botox too. Terrified of looking too "done" or surprised.

I feel a bit guilty for even considering it...

[Fabulassie]

I don't think Botox does much on the eyelids (or the skin under the eyes). It is absolutely great at the 11's between the eyes and somewhat helpful for the crow's feet at the corners of the eyes.

I recommend starting out small - get the 11's and the crow's feet. Maybe, if you have big furrows on your forehead get those, too. But don't try to go for the full face.

Not everyone looks like a Real Housewife freak with Botox. The good ones don't really look like they've really done anything (unless they try to scowl. I can always make my friends laughing by scowling at them with all my might and achieving nothing more than a fat lower lip and a narrowing of the eyes.)

[paxtecum]

www.facebook.com/pages/Botox-side-effects/185150744858739

Please be aware of the risks of botox.
Do some research.

YOU could be that person that has the life changing adverse reaction caused by injecting your body with deadly poison.

[Brices]

Hi I'm a botox nurse and I would say for hooded eyelids you need a cosmetic surgeon. Dynamic lines on the forehead you need to treat two areas, forehead and frown (between eyebrows). Can't risk just treating forehead on its own as eyebrows may droop. By treating these two areas you can get eyebrow lift. After two weeks most practitioners offer free follow up consultation, if the eyebrows are a little too raised for you, a bit more can be added to relax eyebrows down a little.
Yes you can get "unexpected" lines appearing like small comma lines above eyebrows as other muscles try and compensate, but again good practitioner will adjust at two week follow up.
Botox is the worlds No.1 aesthetic procedure, good reason why
If you don't like it, it wears off.
The main problem with botox is it becomes another expense you then need.
It reminds me of mobile phones we never had this monthly expense before and now it's an accepted essential!
Don't feel guilty, nothing wrong with how we explore vanity

[Love2Dance]

Thank you all. Very helpful details for me to consider.
Fabulassie, starting out small is defo the way to go - and I know Dr Bunting will give honest advice about whether I should do it at all. I want to look subtly refreshed and less tired (if that's possible these days when one has a stressful job, kids to run after etc. - same stuff as everyone).

Pax, you are so right to remind me of the risks. They are worth taking seriously, but I did raise an eyebrow at "BeautyTreatmentSolicitors.co.uk"! There must be lots of cowboys and girls out there (my friend recently went to a dental nurse to get Botox although she was happy with the result) otherwise such firms wouldn't be in business. I would not dream of going to anyone other than a suitably qualified and experienced dermatologist - although even then you can't rule out an unexpected reaction...

Brices, that is just the info I need to consider. The thing is, I have a very mobile, expressive face and I am apprehensive about the outcome if those muscles cannot work for a time. I have an acquaintance who is a dermatologist and I was almost (but not quite!) put off: I can see she has had fillers, lip treatment and Botox and she looks...strange. There is no way I would have surgery, but I may look at a consultation on those two areas. Or I could just keep up with my skincare routine, get more sleep and make more of an effort with makeup and keep watching Lisa Eldridge YouTube videos!

[Wrapdress]

I did Botox this summer for my "1" between the eyes and for my forehead. The result was amazing. When I went back at the 2 week check up I asked for more, but the dermo said No. She said she would love to take my money, but really you can overdo it, she said. So, she saved me from myself. No one can tell what I did, but they know I look different - happier, rested, etc.

I also did filler for my deep smile lines. That helped too. And a bit around my chin.

[Ladyfoxglove]

Go to an experienced doctor - nobody else.

To get a mild lifting in the eye area, you need two injections between your eyebrows (the "11s) and two injections above the inner corners of your brows. Ask for a conservative treatment. Dont have your forehead lines treated or your brow may droop.

Best to get a recommendation if you can.

[Kittykat7]

I've just had my 11 lines done then went back 2 weeks later for forehead lines. It is very natural looking. I've got to go back in 2 weeks time as she didn't do above my eyebrow so as not to do too much in one go. I'm really happy with the result.

For your eyes you would need surgery. Botox is for crows feet around the eyes.

[Love2Dance]

Ladyfoxglove I do worry about drooping. Thanks for the tip. Wrapdress and Kittycat7: Did you go to someone in London? If so do you mind if I ask who? TBH what I really need is a good consultation before going any further. There's so much out there. I only started thinking about this recently. It is a bit controversial too. As Dr Bunting would put it, I'm looking to preserve what I've got for a bit longer. Problem is, I'm classic pear shape so curvy bottom half, but my face is very slim. Happy to have decent bone structure/ cheekbones but naso-labial lines etc. not so welcome. A decent dermo who can advise about very subtle fillers would be good...

[pinkfrocks]

Dr Tracy Mountford in Harley St is regarded as the best for Botox and fillers.

[RonaldMcDonald]

I see Ashok Songra or Hillary Allen in Belfast.

Hillary works in GB too and is excellent

[Kittykat7]

I'm in Australia so can't recommend anyone, sorry.