Botox / fillers in London(29 Posts)
Does anyone have any clinic / Dr recommendations in London?
So far I've had Vagheggi Harley St and Opera recommended - BUT by people who haven't had fillers.
I am interested in Botox this time. I have fillers made in another country. Under eye filler and a bit in the lips.
So don't have experience with the clinics and doctors in Uk/ London.
I have question about anybody with experience. The eyebrows are going up?
I went to Helen St John recently. I asked her to fill the lines below my nose, leading down to my mouth, about 4 creases, like a regular smoker has but I get them from sleeping on my side. I had never had this done before, nor any Botox, I was a first time client. HSJ told me I needed injections to numb the area because of lack of time, then she proceeded to inject the filler in. Very painful in the middle as this was not numb. After this area she said "what's next", and at this point actually discussed the costs even though I'd told her I wanted only one treatment and was on a budget. That 5 minutes of injecting filler was £310. I told her that was enough, baby steps etc. She then encouraged me to have Botox at £25 in that area to stop me pursing my lips (even though the lines are caused by sleeping). I said ok because she was recommending I do it. I left the clinic swollen, sore and like someone had punched me in the top lip. She never suggested I ice the area but I soon realised 3 hours later that that is what I SHOULD have been doing. HSJ put a smear of arnica cream on my lip and said nothing about aftercare. The next day the bruising appeared and then only got worse over the next few days. My upper lip was a deep purple for 5 days. The swelling was also really bad, and it was difficult to hide both the swelling and bruising under make up. She gave me no warning of this at all. I was confined to my house for 3 days and even when I did venture out the bruising was still there until 7 days past. I paid £310 for the fillers and I would never ever do it again, the aggravation from the bruising outweighs the effects. And as for the botox, well I find it incredible that a cosmetic 'surgeon' would perform such a procedure when the client has to suffer the consequences. I cannot chew properly, I slurp my tea/coffee, eating dinner out is embarrassing as I constantly have to wipe my lips like I'm a stroke victim. I have tried chewing on one side more than the other to combat this but mealtimes are a real drag now and I get cross every mouthful. I simply cannot chew. If a doctor knew it was a client's first time surely they wouldn't suggest/sell such a treatment on a risky area. I am stuck with the Botox for 3 months, hopefully less. I have massive lumps under my upper lip too. I would NOT recommend this lady to anyone, she made a complete hash of my mouth and I feel stupid that I was vain enough to pay that much money for something that is a disaster.
DowntonTrout I suggest getting just Botox first - you may well find that once you can't frown in your usual way the line smoothes out and disappears! If the line is still noticeable a few weeks after Botox, whack some filler in there.
I've had botox by Dr Helen St John. It was fine.
I've heard god things about Dr Frances Prenna and Dr Michael Prager. They are reportedly more expensive though
Downtown, I had Botox on Wednesday at 11.30 and any redness or any sign was completely gone by 1pm. It does sound like you friend is having something done but you don't need to wear dark glasses after Botox.
You need Botox for the lines between the lines, works a charm! I can only stress going to a decent clinic as the difference between them and cowboys is huge.
I had my 11's done with Peter Butler at LPSA. I would definitely go again. They didn't completely disappear but looked so much better.
I did have my top lip line enhanced years ago.
It wasn't really a great experience. The lips are very painful and the swelling at first,.....well let's just say I looked like Donald Duck for a couple of days.
I didn't really feel I had got much benefit from it then as once the swelling had gone I thought it was too subtle. Then the Lesley Ash thing happened and i was too scared to go back. But there you go. That's why I'm not sure about trying something else.
I am in London too, so will have a research of the names already mentioned.
I've had tear trough fillers at Tracey Mountford's clinic, though not done by Tracey but by a member of her team there. I was really pleased with the way it was done and the subtle improvement it gave. I'd really recommend them.
downton I think it's hard to say what you might need, you might need both. Botox stops the movement of the muscles and fillers fill in the lines, you can acheive a natural look, but you just need to do your research on finding a very good experienced Dr.
I am thinking of having lip enhancement, but haven't yet built up the courage. I would travel far if i had to, if i knew i was in safe hands.
I was going to post a thread about Botox but wondered if anyone here could answer my questions.
I have a vertical line between my brows. I think it is starting to make me look cross all the time. I don't know if I would need Botox, filler or both.
I am wondering whether to get a fringe cut to hide it or take the plunge and try the Botox. I have a friend who has "secretly" been going for Botox for quite a while, I think- ie she hasn't actually said anything but goes off to meet a friend in another city every so often, then wears dark glasses for a couple of days and avoids school pick up or picks up early.
Her forehead then appears to be very smooth and shiny for a few weeks, doesnt move, and her eyebrows appear abnormally high. I don't want to mention it to her, as she clearly doesn't want anyone to know. It is very noticeable, not just to me, others have asked me as they think I would know. She has had cosmetic surgery before and lied to a close friend for ages before eventually admitting it. I don't have a problem with it at all, it's her private business, am just explaining why I can't ask her.
What I'm saying though is that I wouldn't want that effect. I think if it's so obvious and you get that startled look it isn't for me. Has anyone else had results they really weren't happy with, or if you are happy with it do people notice and ask you or do you just look better?
Thanks seven gosh that sounds painful, thought she had a light touch, guess it's just the injection.
It's hard to be precise with costs because it depends so much on which product and how much you need. Tracey charges about £250 for lips. I have not had it done but am told it is painful- people come out of her office and apply ice packs before they leave to go home.
When I lived in London used to go to Dr Lynette Yong at Courthouse clinic, then I had a baby and when I was finished breastfeeding she had gone on maternity leave. I then went to Dr Robin Stone at the same place. I would recommend both of these doctors. IIRC two areas was £280 but this was 5 years ago.
I have used a couple of cowboys and although no major disasters I always go to a proper clinic again now. My current one is in Reading which is still quite far from me now but doctor is outstanding, I am trying out fillers for the first time in a couple of weeks.
I would be interested in cost for lip enhancement by tracey mountford aswell.x
Can everyone post costs please? I used to go to Dr Nick Lowe at his Cranly Clinic but can't afford him any more - £400 per area for Botox! He is good though.
seven that sounds painful, deep injections in cheeks ouch. I think if i ever have the courage, then tracey mountford will probably be the one i go to.
I have had work done by Tracey Mountford.
This was my experience:
First I went for a consultation- cost £90. I wasn't sure about going ahead and there was no pressure. We discussed what might be done. My advice to anyone is keep an open mind about products- she has so many available that she will choose what is best- so don't assume you need Botox because you might need fillers.
I wanted a tiny bit of filing for my cheeks which were starting to droop and give me a crease across the top under my eye- this is supposedly where the fat pads separate with age.
I didn't talk money at all initially but asked what she would suggest.
She said I didn't need much at all. Given more money I'd have something done to my neck but that was going to be over £1K for Botox and Dermaroller.
I left it for a month then decided to take the plunge. I had Restylane in each cheek. She used 1 syringe each side. Cost was £650. It lasted me over a year, about 15 months.
I have to tell you it was very painful- the needles go in very deeply and I had 3-4 injections each side. For a week afterwards my cheeks were burning and hot though not noticeable to anyone else.
I was very pleased though with the results. No one noticed but I looked less tired.
I had it done again almost a year ago. This time I had no burning or swelling afterwards. I expect i will go back when this has worn off.
She has a very light touch- nothing is overdone.
She prefers to under-do if anything.
She's not the cheapest by any means but I felt very safe and cared for- and defiitely no hard sell.
Nice- I have read that lumps etc like you had can appear if the product is not injected deeply enough.
Dr Tracy Mountford has won lots of awards and has an excellent reputation.
It was pretty bad for about for about four weeks iirc
nice if you don't mind me asking, how long did it take for your eye droop to go?
I had botox and fillers with Helen. With the botox, I had eye droop, which has never happened with anyone else before, and the filler on one side (of nose-to-mouth lines) congealed into a lump under the skin. I went back to get it sorted and was charged for extra filler to even things out. But I agree, everyone's experience is different.
I've been to both Helen and Tracey over the past 5 years and both are excellent. They have quite different styles and if you ask each of them how to solve "problem XYZ" they'll sometimes give different answers. Often two different methods give the same, good result. Helen uses larger amounts of botox and fillers when doing treatments and her cost per area is less. If you know exactly what you want, she is skillful and is extremely good value for money. She is very very clever in the tricky jawline/chin areas especially, and can acheive a great improvement which other doctors haven't been able to acheive on me.
Tracey uses much less product, and is more expensive per area; so if you need to return three times to get the desired result, it works out a bit pricey. But if you are nervous, if you want a very subtle effect, have never had this kind of treatment before, she is ideal. Her overall knowledge of cosmetic treatments is superb too. I'm very happy with the results I've had from the different treatments I've had from each - it depends on personal preference and circumstances.
In either case - if you are not happy about fillers, tell the doctor, the filler can be dissolved (they will do this for free). If you are not happy about the result of your botox, tell the doctor, you will have to wait for it to wear off but on the next visit they can change the injection site or use a toally different amount. Everyone's face is different and muscles react differently to different doses of product.
Thats a shame niceupthedance was it botox and / or fillers you had with her ?
I saw Helen St John and didn't like the result AT ALL.
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