Why are hairdressers not competant with curly/wavy hair?

(89 Posts)
colditz Thu 31-Mar-11 12:28:08

Every single time I go to the hairdresser, I end up saying

"Don't do that, it pulls the curl out!" (drying with flat brush and hairdryer) or

"Please don't put that on my hair because it makes it lank" (silicone crap) or

"If you carry on running your hands through my hair like a rake I'm going to end up with flat roots and a ball of fluff at the end, and I won't be pleased"

I've had 2 inches off my shoulder length layered shaggy cut today, I walked in with bouncy curls and have walked out with some hair curly, some almost straight, flat at the roots and feeling greasy.

I don't thik I could do that to my hair if I tried, what the fuck do they do to it?

auldspinster Mon 02-Feb-15 00:10:39

I go to Dave at Charlie Miller Stafford Street in Edinburgh - costs a fortune but worth every penny.

RelaxKidsLynne Mon 02-Feb-15 00:02:07

Hello Hallybear did you ever get your answer about a curly hairdresser in Cambridge, I am desperate too!

Hallybear Sat 25-Oct-14 12:28:24

Hi makemineamango. I realise it's been a long time since your post in 2011 about a great hairdresser in Cambridge for curly hair... but i would love to know the name as I am desperate after so many bad cuts!. Could you help me out?. many thanks!

Beautybymums Sat 14-Jun-14 18:11:43

I see a mobile hairdresser that is fantastic. Shes so busy so appointments are hard but really worth checking her out. Shes a hidden gem in london. She my hair dry and curl by curl cuts dry and now looks freakin fab. Her name is Jay 07517441080.

I would not trust anyone else with my hair anymore. shes got loads of reviews on hmumsnet and british curlies aswell.

Meglet Fri 13-Jun-14 19:38:18

yes I know I'm resurrecting an old thread but there's loads of good into on here

waaaaahhh, I had a new lady cut my hair today, the lad who usually does it was on hols. No I don't want layers because it makes the shorter length ping up and the longer length stays straighter because the weight of the hair pulls it down. I explained this twice, I thought she understood.

She cut long layers into it and now it looks shite angry. My wavy / curly hair can hold a long bob, it's not a long bob, I feel like one of Bon Jovi may be exaggerating a bit.

Now I have to find a different hairdresser to sort the ends out and bring it back to one length. It's long so plenty of length to play with but all the same I'd rather not have to get it sorted.

Scarletohello Sat 26-Apr-14 21:50:53

This is part of an interview with my fab curly hair hairdresser. Have recommended him on MN and people who have seen him have raved about him. He has a long waiting list for appointments and even had people travelling as far as Spain to see him..!


Mine's great, she always uses curly shampoo and conditioner on me, and curl friendly (no silicone) products, she agrees totally that they are no good for the hair. She does a really good scrunch dry on it, or a lovely bouncy blowdry if that's what I want (I usually go with the scrunch) and cuts it really well. Her hair is poker straight, but she really gets mine.

Chocolategirl7 Sat 26-Apr-14 21:19:36

I have similar frizzy curly hair which is is really dry. I never 'love' it when the hairdresser does it but once I've done it myself (using diffuser) it's great.

My hairdresser has curly hair too but cuts it specially for curls. She kinds of twirls bits and cuts it on the diagonal. She's always nervous of taking length out and I have to persuade her that it'll be fine as when it gets longer there's a tendency for my to look witchy.

She's outside of Winchester if anyone looking in this area.

Scarletohello Sat 26-Apr-14 20:23:38

You need to go to Matthew James in Birmingham. He trained for ten years in New York with the woman who wrote the Curly Girl Handbook. I saw him last year and it totally changed my hair! Firstly he cut it dry, not wet as that it how your hair looks naturally. Secondly he showed me what products to use and how to dry it to make the most if the curls.

However the most useful advice of all was to stop using products with sulphates and silicones as they totally dry out the hair and curly hair needs more moisture. He recommended the Body Shop Rainforest range which I've been using and my hair is in the best condition it's ever been! There's also a range specifically designed for curly hair called Devacurl which is only available on Amazon. Not tried it yet but will do when my current products run out.


printmeanicephoto Sat 26-Apr-14 17:26:44

Any "good with curly hair" hairdressers in Leeds? Please help. Curly hair lass here who has always struggled. I want easy maintenance!

TheDayOfMyDoctor Sat 26-Apr-14 14:53:25

My (bald and male hairdresser) is great with curly hair. I went through a lot of hairdressers before finding him. Also in Edinburgh!

Beautybymums Sat 26-Apr-14 14:46:38

I have straightened my hair for years until I found Jay. She trained in NY at Devachon Salon and she is phenominal. I don't really know what to say- she tells you how to really take care of it-doesnt 'sell products' to you but quite the opposite. Best advice is to go as natural as possible. It takes time to cut but I will never change hairdressers again for as long as she about. She has a facebook page open now so can be easily contacted as I may have mentioned before its a nightmare getting her to answer the phone. Im hoping she opens a salon in London soon. Would be fantastic as long as her prices don't change either :P
her facebook page is JiJi Curlsbefree.

Does anyone know what tools I'd need to get my 3a spirals into just waves, heated rollers? I really haven't a clue!

Sillybillypoopoomummy Thu 06-Feb-14 20:10:12

Yes please makemine!

Scarletohello Thu 06-Feb-14 14:26:54

I've recently discovered a fantastic hairdresser in Birmingham who trained for 10 years in New York with the woman who wrote the Curly Girl Handbook. He totally transformed my frizzy/ wavy/ curly hair, cut it dry, told me what products to use and how to dry it. I couldn't believe how lovely my hair looked afterward. I thoroughly recomnend him.


MadBusLady Thu 06-Feb-14 12:56:44

Oh my people! <weeps>

Yy to the diffuser thing. WHY?? In fact styling aids generally. I've almost never had a hairdresser make my hair look as good as it looks when it just dries naturally after a good wash with a good cut, with the right product in, and then lightly combed out.

I used to go to mahogany in Oxford years ago, had a gorgeous little 20s/30s wavy bob then, I second that recommendation if they're still as good.

TheRaniOfYawn Thu 06-Feb-14 10:26:44

I just got my hair cut at the training college and it is driving me crazy. My hair is wavy with a couple of ringletty bits and thick and the volume pulls it straight. She cut am inch off the bottom but left all the volume so now I have a shoulder length frizzy mess. She died out straight in the salon which looked fine but I'm going to have to either rely on salt spray or straighten it for the next couple of months. Grrr.

Ploom Wed 05-Feb-14 22:10:23

I do the MN cut but dont bring the ponytail anywhere near as far forward as in that youtube clip - I dont want a fringe! I also sometimes leave some front bits out of the ponytail and cut them afterwards.
Only problem I find is that the back is still really long - the layers are great but I'm not skilled enough to then chop some off the back.
Thankfully I've found a hairdresser who isnt trying to do anything fancy with my curls & I top it off with a MN haircut afterwards.

delasi Wed 05-Feb-14 21:53:12

PS that's an old recommendation as I left Brighton and couldn't find anywhere new, so I've been cutting my own hair for 2 years now! I'm actually pretty good... wink

delasi Wed 05-Feb-14 21:52:20

Don't know if this has been mentioned yet (quick read through so might have missed it):

- Going SLS and silicone free is great.

- If you're looking for a curly hairdresser in Brighton, Cuttlefish Organic (North Laine or thereabouts, iirc) has a hairdress who is really good. I don't remember her name, if she's still there, but the first time I went on recommendation I said, "Can I have someone who is good with curls?" and the woman taking my booking said, "Ah, you'll be wanting x then", when I chatted with her it transpired that she had loads of clients with curly hair and it all started with her sister who has very curly hair. I think her name began with an S... blush

missymum Sun 02-Feb-14 21:59:26

I too totally understand this and it's taken me twenty years to find my current hairdresser who is fantastic with curls and was trained at the Vidal Sassoon school... She's in Exeter, Devon, if anyone needs a recommendation let me know.

TheGreatHunt Sun 02-Feb-14 19:52:35

I'm slightly worried as my two DCs have beautiful bouncy curly hair. Ds is fine, he's a boy so cut it short. DD (who's only 2) has amazing, tightly curled hair (but looser than afro iyswim) - I took her to DS's hairdresser and asked her advice about looking after DD's curls. She suggested I cut it short (as in boy short) hmm not a clue about treatments or anything.

It's going to cost me a fortune isn't it to maintain!?

Sammyplus3 Sun 02-Feb-14 19:20:55

I used to go to this Salon in Camden. They were OK I guess but I havn't had my hair cut in years now and my stylist isn't there any more. Beautybymums I took your recommendation and saw the stylist up in North London. It took for EVER but only because I needed a total restyle and I do have a lot of hair.
Needless to say I am shocked that a white girl has done a better job for only £60 that years of Afro hair dressers and posh salons. She cut every single curl one by one in its dry state following the Devachon Salon method and my hair looks like it did before my kids sucked the living life out of it.

Also I'm so pleased she didn't try pawn off expensive hair products on me she just gave some really good styling tips and information on at home natural treatments that save money and work better. She has curly hair too and it looks really nice so I take it this girl really knows what she's doing. I don't doubt she'll open her own salon sometime very soon at the rate she is going. I hope she keeps her prices the same :D

Lottapianos Mon 27-Jan-14 14:23:28

'They say gosh it's thick and look a bit dumbfounded, cut layers in too short so it ends up rectangular, try to maul you with a diffuser, put crunchy mouse in it, cut you a fringe (it's not a fringe it's a pom pom on your forehead) arghhhh!'

This exactly! So many times!

It's downright shocking how many hairdressers have no clue what to do with curls. I'm lucky enough to have found a fab hairdresser (MN recommendation actually) who does indeed have curls herself. My first haircut with her was a revelation - she practically cut each curl individually, took off just as much as I asked her to and didn't come near me with any damn thinning scissors either. And didn't blink an eye when I declined a blowdry. She's a keeper smile

Beautybymums Mon 27-Jan-14 11:04:24

I know what you mean. I travel down to see this girl Jay in London. She worked in an afro/European mixed salon and my hair has never looked better. She has curly hair too and really knows what she's doing even throws in free treatments sometimes. I would keep her to myself but its time we were all getting proper curly hair treatment and stop paying £150 for haircuts that make us cry. If anyones interested her number is +44 7517441080

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