General chat for vaping vipers.

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magimedi Thu 24-Apr-14 12:00:12

Hooray to getting our own space (within giving up smoking).

flowers & wine (gin) to MNHQ for giving us this space.

I'm hoping some of our most knowledgeable vapers are going to start threads about specific aspects of vaping.

<glares at *Allergic & Plenty>

Allergictoironing Thu 24-Apr-14 12:15:44

Who me - knowledgeable????? I just have a big mouth, and a reasonable ability to describe things in a simple way (I think). But I will start the clearo thread with that link I did the other day.

adv1cen33d3d Thu 24-Apr-14 12:17:04

I'm a fellow vaper

BewitchedBotheredandBewildered Thu 24-Apr-14 12:57:44

Congratulations on your new home flowersgrin

Great idea magi.

Raia Thu 24-Apr-14 12:58:10

Hurrah for getting our own space! wine

FarelyKnuts Thu 24-Apr-14 13:57:25

Look at this shiny new space smile

Not posting at all so I can find it again grin

I am 6 weeks stinky free. Tried one in a fit of madness last week and it was DISCUSTING!!! Like sucking a dirty ashtray into my mouth. I threw it out after two drags. I was actually glad I did try it then, it strengthened my delight in having given them the boot and becoming a vaper and stopped me romantising them into being what they are not!!

Hello! Checking in again. grin

Woohoo, this new topic is nearly as shiney as my vaping kit! grin

Thank you very very much magi for the thread in site stuff and thank you mnhq for giving us this space flowers

Welcome vapers old and new!

SoleSource Thu 24-Apr-14 14:06:44

Wheeeeeeee excited! Thank you magi and MNHQ smile

magimedi Thu 24-Apr-14 15:40:20

Farely Well done!

I tried one about a week after just vaping & had to go & spit, swill & clean teeth several times it was so vile.

Shonajay Thu 24-Apr-14 17:19:54

I hate the smell now. It's so pungent on some people, I don't know why I wasted perfume when I smoked I still stank.

EatShitDerek Thu 24-Apr-14 18:17:09

Oh isn't this fancy.

I have relapsed and been smoking real things. Haven't bought any so least still saving money grin

Think I need to change flavour and maybe I might start up again. Is it usual to give in then restart?

I think so for lots of people EatShit. Just keep counting the ones you don't smoke and you'll get there. Lots of people say it helps to change flavours two or three times a day if you're struggling.

Dwerf Thu 24-Apr-14 18:43:18

Derek I do it all the time. I would vape for a few days and then smoke for a few days. some weeks i wouldn't vape at all. Now i try to get back to vaping sooner rather than later. I've had a bad week, so i've been smoking much more, but today haven't smoked any.

Cantabile Thu 24-Apr-14 18:48:35

Oooh, isn't it fab around here? Love what you've done with the curtains.... grin

Hello everybody!

Derek, I expect it's like lots of things - there's a time when it's right for you, and a time when it's not quite. Try a different flavour, but don't beat yourself up about it. I'm still dual fuelling and started vaping in October. I just know that if I hadn't seen the first thread I'd still be on 40-50 day and now I'm not. Sometimes my fag intake is a bit higher, but mostly I'm on 5 or 6 a day. I'm happy with that as it's a darn sight better than it was. It did help that I got loads of flavours to play with.

Serotonin Thu 24-Apr-14 18:52:23

Hello all, I'm a newish vaper but am struggling to get off the smokes especially at home. my while family smokes!

but I do enjoy vaping and I think I shall get some new flavours tomorrow smile

Welcome to the shiney new section, Serotonin smile

Serotonin Thu 24-Apr-14 18:59:48

This is very exciting grin

ringsnthings Thu 24-Apr-14 19:24:08

Hi Everyone!

I`ve been smoke free for 6 weeks smile even my DH, son, nephew and sister are now vaping.

I had been trying to keep up with the previous threads and would like to thank you all for all the great info. I never thought I would be able to stop after a 40 year habit and even having watched my sister die from lung cancer 2 years ago.

I started with just the usual little kit from the local stall in the shopping centre but have been inflicted with the shinyitis from you all and I`m now using a Vamo5.. totally loving it!

Would like to start mixing my own liquid soon.

Yay that's brilliant, rings, well done! flowers

That reminds me (home mixing) - where's QueenStromba? I haven't seen her around for a bit.

Do you find the vamo hotter than expected for the settings? The same clearo (2.0 ohms) - on the MVP2 tastes good at 3.7 volts but on the vamo I use 3.1 volts or it tastes burnt confused

ringsnthings Thu 24-Apr-14 19:35:40

I had been using it at 3.0 but was`nt really tasting the flavour till I turned it up to 3.7.. very specific lol. Just using a standard Kanger on it at the moment.

Now when I switch to the little one from the kit when I`m out, I nearly have face collapse trying to get a decent draw from it. This is making me think I need a shopping accident for one to use outside that does`nt look like a weapon!

monicalewinski Thu 24-Apr-14 19:47:53

Just popping in so I can find again easily.

I lurk on the vaping threads but don't tend to post because I use the cig-a-likes so am not as hi-tec as everyone else!
I've not had a cigarette since just before Xmas, it was the original evangelical vapers thread that inspired me and I'm amazed how much more I prefer pretend smoking now (I had a couple of drags on someone else's a few weeks ago and it was awful).

Is the whole 'stop smoking' space new then? V v good idea Magi, thanks wine

Allergictoironing Thu 24-Apr-14 20:01:57

Monica if the cigalikes work for you that's fine & dandy smile. Right from day one I realised that vaping threads here were non-judgemental and there was no willy waving about who had the most complex/weirdest/geekiest kit possibly because women tend to be much less inclined to that kind of thing. There also seems to be no judging on people's reasons why they are replacing smoking with vaping, and no judgy-pants for people who are dual fuelling as Cantabile so brilliantly terms it grin.

What I WOULD say is that there are a few advantages to the refillable tank & battery type system that are worth considering. The cost savings over a cigalike are significant for very little extra hassle, the vaping itself tends to be better, and the range of liquid flavours is vast. I don't have really high tech kit, not much more than basic because it seems to suit me. I don't rebuild my coils or anything, I just throw 'em away when they die, so the only extra hassle over a cigalike for me is filling my clearo and maybe cleaning one out if I want to try a new flavour.

monicalewinski Thu 24-Apr-14 20:11:37

Willy waving grin

My husband has switched to the futuristic ones as they give him a better throat hit; I've discovered that for me it's all about the habit, so I use nucig which are the same size as normal cigarettes - I tried his and nearly choked to death! (And I smoked with gusto for 23 years).

I recommend vaping to all smokers now, I have been thoroughly assimilated!

Lora1982 Thu 24-Apr-14 20:25:47

Got the rest of my shinyitis packages in the post today im possibly too excited over the two new batteries. One has a vape counter and battery levels led and the other is black with a pink button and beautiful blue battery level lights.

Yes, willy waving free zone here smile My BiL has been on cig alikes for over a year now and is doing fine on them. Lots of them are actually 'hackable' - if you can prise off the plug in the mouthpiece with a paper clip you can refill with your choice of liquid and save loads of money. I posted a video on the clearomiser thread.

magimedi Thu 24-Apr-14 22:32:11

No willys waving here!

You can also prise off the top of a cig alike with the tine of a fork!

So lovely to see everyone piling in here.

NO question is too silly - just post & we will all help if we can.

Shonajay Fri 25-Apr-14 09:39:16

My daughter is 20 and she's always liked hanging around with smokers. I was thinking there's a bit of truth to this- look how kind we all are to each other here!

And Lora we need pictures! I'm waiting for a new one today as well

member Fri 25-Apr-14 10:00:34

Morning! Approaching 70 hours without fags, defo think the worst of giving up fags/starting vaping symptoms over - that's not to say I'm craving free though.

Dh is going to start - a vaping shop in another town has a stall at our market tomorrow which is where I got my kit. He could have borrowed my spare but I want him to go down & try different flavours as I think he has less of a need for the dirty fag taste(he sucks a mint while smoking!).

Planning treat purchases with money saved is motivating!

Dwerf Fri 25-Apr-14 16:10:55

He might like menthol then, Member, or there are plenty of minty flavours.

i'm currently vaping cherry coke, which is very nice, and a rum/coconut/pineapple one, which is okay but not what i expected.

Raia Sat 26-Apr-14 16:57:19

Today I was standing outside vaping with the smokers behind the bike sheds and I was really disconcerted by the fact I loved the smell of their smoke. I didn't have one, and I'm quite determined not to smoke again but it knocked me a bit off balance that I didn't find the smell rank as others have said they do after giving up. Is this normal? I've been off the stinkies for nearly six weeks so I suppose it's still not long is it. confused

I still find the smell of fresh smoke as it's coming off someone's fag quite pleasant. The smell that comes off someone who has just come in from having a fag is quite different though and I find that really foul.

Raia Sat 26-Apr-14 17:05:41

Agreed, the smell of stale smoke lingering on someone is gross. I used to find that smell horrible on myself before I stopped. It was the fresh smoke that was so alluring! I couldn't tempt any of them to sample my piña colada juice grin

What were you doing out with the smokers? Was that through choice or were you banished?

magimedi Sat 26-Apr-14 17:15:05

I really loathe the smell of even fresh smoke, but I always loathed the smell of 'tailor mades' as a roll up smoker.

Raia Sat 26-Apr-14 17:46:49

Oh it was by choice, I wasn't banished! I like to go outside with my smoking buddies at break time. We rehearse on Saturdays in a school building and although I will happily have a stealth vape in the loos I don't think vaping openly indoors would be seen as acceptable. But to be fair I haven't asked about this so it's just an assumption.

ilovesooty Sat 26-Apr-14 18:03:42

If I wanted to vape at work I'd have to go out with the smokers. Ecigs are banned in the buildings.

Dwerf Sat 26-Apr-14 18:11:58

i stealth vaped in wetherspoons the other week, 10 ft from the bar. Ha! And in the theatre (wasnt the only one actually, I could see the light of someone elses several rows down), it was a school performance though, so half empty and we were the highest up.

Cigarette smoke doesn't bother me, mind you, I've not completely given up myself. What surprised me was how fast the nicotine stains returned on my fingers with rollies.

Raia Sat 26-Apr-14 18:51:17

Dwerf, I used to get the dreaded yellow fingers too (also a rollie smoker) - that's something I definitely don't miss!

I'm not sure whether I'm allowed to vape in work or not. Last year one of the volunteers got told off by the boss for vaping indoors but when I told her recently I'd switched to vaping she said 'you can do that indoors, you know' confused She's not the most stable of people so I don't want to push it - she could change her mind on a whim.

As it goes, I quite like going out with the smokers. Partly for the chat and partly because I work in MH which has massively high smoking rates so I think it's good to normalise vaping with the people we work with.

I like to vape indoors in the pub and wouldn't go back to somewhere that banned it. The only time I'd kick up a stink is if I was made to not only stand outside but in a designated smoking area.

One of the things I really missed in the early days of not smoking was sniffing my fingers between fags blush I must have got a mini nicotine hit from it.

MsWazowski Sat 26-Apr-14 23:41:05

I've been off the fags and vaping for 9 weeks now! I bloody loved smoking, can't believe it! Thanks to being ill a couple of weeks ago I've managed to reduce my nicotine strength to about 3mg by mixing 6 and 0mg liquids.

For the first time in about 25 years I really don't want to smoke cigarettes ever again. Even if I end up vaping 0% nicotine for the rest of my life (which I won't) I'm never going back. I've even taken up running shuffling around the estate FGS grin

Vaping is the best thing to happen to smokers!

Lora1982 Sun 27-Apr-14 00:53:57

Ooh I had two rollies tonight. In my defence it was only two in neay two weeks and I vaped the rest of the night. We had a bbq and j had a feelkng that as soon as the smoker arrived kd ask for one... and I did

MaggieMcGill Sun 27-Apr-14 06:10:28

Ms Well done you smile what flavour are you using? I've tried a few times to cut down to 6mg but it just feels like I'm vaping fresh air. It's frustrating because I have a good selection of 6mg liquid just waiting to be used but it's all crap.

Lora don't beat yourself up about two rollies, we all have blips.

Yay well done MsWazowski flowers

Lora, 2 roll-ups is no biggie, how many have you not smoked since you started vaping?

Maggie, you could get some higher strength in the same flavours and mix them, or are you still hoping to cut down to 6mg in the near future?

magimedi Sun 27-Apr-14 19:56:50

6mg never worked for me - sad

I've bought some 18 & mixed them to get 12 (what a mathemitician I am!) to use them up.

MsWazowski Sun 27-Apr-14 20:04:03

Maggie, I'm using RY4 from a market stall. I think it's an 80:20 PG:VG ratio, which might help. Actually I think it might be a bit strong as it seems to make me cough sometimes. The flavour is a bit nondescript really, just a bit sweet but it's doing the job and keeping the cravings away.

I really can't wait to be free of nicotine, but it was a fluke really that I've managed to cut down this far. I had a stomach bug and couldn't face vaping for about 4 days, when I felt better it seemed wrong to go straight back onto 12mg. I did an emergency dash to the market and the only flavour they had in both strengths was RY4. That was about 10 days ago.

I've just ordered some gingerbread in both strengths to make it a bit more interesting.

Thanks for the flowers Plenty smile

ilovesooty Sun 27-Apr-14 21:44:39

I had a cold last week and I'm convinced I got rid of it a lot faster as I don't smoke any more. It's the first one I've had for months and like the last one (only other one I've had since taking up vaping last year) it didn't go to my chest. Another reason never to smoke again.

magimedi Mon 28-Apr-14 08:21:28

And 700,000 are now ex-smokers! Brilliant, isn't it? grin I wonder how that compares with NHS stop smoking services over the same timescale (their actual success rates, not the four week figure they publish).

I have been very much heartened recently by the change in the way the media covers vaping. Since the proposed Welsh ban, coverage has been a lot more sensible and measured generally. It's great that ASH have changed their stance, I think that is making a big difference, along with things like the Royal College of Physicians new guidance.

magimedi Mon 28-Apr-14 09:47:52

That RCP report is a very balanced piece of writing.

StampedLetter Mon 28-Apr-14 14:21:55

These threads are so long so I haven't read it all but can I ask a silly question? My vape stick came with no instructions. I have put the liquid in (didn't get it in the central bit yay!) the nd o you press the button thing to vape?
You seem to need to suck quite hard to get any 'smoke' and sometimes it tastes a little Burnt.
What am I doing wrong
Desperately want to quit and have a yummy bubblegum flavour but am flummoxed!

Hi Stamped, which kit do you have? Can you post a link if you got it online or maybe a picture if you don't know what it's called?

Great news - we don't need to do massive long threads any more as we have our very own section smile

StampedLetter Mon 28-Apr-14 14:33:41

It is a ce4?

OK, not sure why you are having to suck hard. Try sucking much gentler than you would on a cigarette, but for longer. Make sure the wicks are wet right to the top - try tilting it to soak them. Dry wicks will give a burnt taste. Daft question, but are you holding the button down the whole time you are sucking? The only other thing that springs to mind is to unscrew it and check it hasn't leaked onto the battery. This could block the airholes at the base of the CE4 and make it a bit of a hard suck.

StampedLetter Mon 28-Apr-14 16:59:12

Ok will try it again once it is charged. Thanks. smile

Raia Mon 28-Apr-14 17:10:12

I was doing a dry burn on my iClear 30 just now and it stopped working - to be fair I've been vaping hard on it for 2 weeks so could it just be that it needs a new atomiser bit? Hope so. The old evod clearos are working okay on the MVP now but it's nowhere near as nice to vape with those sad

StampedLetter Mon 28-Apr-14 20:10:22

I think mine is screwed. Pissed off as it only arrived today. It seems to be leaking from the tank on to the battery and coming up through the mouth piece.

Lora1982 Mon 28-Apr-14 20:20:14

Stamped I was told that over filling the tank part can force liquid to leak into the battery bit and bubble out the mouthpiece too. Who did you buy from? If I ever have a bad clearomiser from liberty flights they send out a brand new one for the next day.

StampedLetter Mon 28-Apr-14 20:26:19

It was from amazon. I have messaged them but also bought another just in case from a different seller.

I didn't overfill it afaik. How do you resolve it if so? Do you just let it sit for a bit and it will eventually empty out of the middle bit? I don't think that is what happened as I was pretty careful but willing to let it sit for a bit if necessary.

Lambstales Mon 28-Apr-14 20:40:32

Hi, I'm new to all this and I'd like to ask a silly question. I have some old VIP ciggies and the expiry date for the cartomizer is --13 should I take note of this?

PS I never stick to expiry dates with food...

Lora1982 Mon 28-Apr-14 21:12:47

Stamped I overfill on accident a lot sometimes I tip a small drop out and its back to the line. It wont soak in unfortunately the only other way would be to vape it. Some of my clearomisers dont mind being over filled but two so far have leaked.

Seeing how long people have been 'smoke free' has really encouraged me but I can't seem to cut down by a lot I always go back to roll ups. I have golden virginia liquid at the moment but bought some blueberry flavour today, fingers crossed it helps smile

Stamped, wrap a tissue round the bottom of the clearo and blow hard through it. That can clear it sometimes. The trouble is there are a lot of cheap leaky ce4's around, especially on ebay and amazon. I have a link somewhere to some I know are ok but I'm on my stupid toy tablet at the moment and it's a pain in the arse linking. I'll find it in the morning if I can crank up the ancient laptop. You might want to get the gs-h2's that are linked from a couple of threads in this section - try the clearomiser thread or one today called 'what shall i buy' or something.

Lambs, they'll be fine. The nicotine strength might not be quite as high as it was, that's all.

Badgers, what strength are you using?

Currently on 18mg (think that's right...)

You could try some 24mg. You can always cut down again later.

StampedLetter Mon 28-Apr-14 22:51:18

Thanks, will try the tissue and look through those links.

To be fair to t he seller he has messaged me back already and no fuss he is sending me an we one tomorrow. That's goid customer service, I say, and I think that mope and he is more likely to be legit and not just trying to get a cheap buck by selling dodgy ones. Well, I hope so anyway!

Yeah I think even on good branded stuff quality can be a bit hit and miss. I had an apollo battery i had to send back twice for a replacement and I've just read shona's thread about her new coolfire - scary stuff!

Lambstales Tue 29-Apr-14 18:12:08

Thanks Plenty.
I will go ahead and use them.

magimedi Wed 30-Apr-14 10:24:38

Am just back from seeing my GP (bad case of athletes foot, nothing worrying) & as I haven't seen him for ages I told him that he could now put me down as a non smoker & it was 19 months now.

He congratulated me & asked me how I'd done it. Told him it was vaping & how wonderful I thought it was but I knew he wasn't allowed to recommend it. He said he wishe dhe could as 90% of all his succesful (which he calls a year fag free) patients did it by vaping or ecigs. He also said the other major benefit was the lack of weight gain.

You know people were talking about odd places they have vaped a while ago? Well yesterday I think I won the top trump, I vaped in my uni exam smile

magimedi Wed 30-Apr-14 15:44:28

And I hope it concentrated your mind, MsInga grin

WhatHo Wed 30-Apr-14 16:04:14

Hi ladies, you said no question too stupid so here goes grin

Is there an idiots guide to vaping anywhere, or would someone make some recommendations to me?

I smoke after kids are in bed for about an hour, in the garden with a book and a glass of wine, and it's as much a 'my day is over' habit thing as anything else (I still manage to suck down about 6-8 in that time however). I feel like I should easily give up though as I don't miss it during the day but if I go more than a couple of days without smoking I get cravings for sure. I smoke Marl lights. I really want to give up.

I'm thinking vaping would be perfect for me but it seems bizarrely complicated - any help?!

YesJesseARobot Wed 30-Apr-14 16:04:49

Medal for MsInga! Hope it helped and you do really well smile

I vaped while doing my first Walk at Home workout. I don't think I have quite got the hang of the healthy living thing...

WhatHo Wed 30-Apr-14 16:26:18

Oh I just found the evangelising thread - I'll read that. Though if anyone has any personal recommendations I;d be interested smile

Raia Wed 30-Apr-14 16:58:57

Hello whatho!

I totally know what you mean about it seeming complicated: it put me off trying vaping for ages and it was only when a friend took up vaping, let me try it out and told me what to get that I took the plunge.

I started out with a basic Kanger evod starter kit and it was really easy to use. After a few weeks when I knew I'd stick with it I bought a better bit of kit (longer lasting battery).

Sorry I can't do links on ipad or I'd link to a starter kit like the one I had. Stick around here and any questions you might have will be answered smile

Hi Whatho, here's a link to the evod kit from myepack - it's not the best kit in the universe but it's not at all bad and it contains everything you need for a good while except liquid.

Or you could get this iclear 16 kit - the iclear 16 is a really good clearomiser and it's very cheap for what you get. You will need two kits if you buy this one so you have two batteries, although that may be not such a huge issue if you only smoke occasionally.

You will also need some liquid. I usually buy from Premier ecigs, occasionally from Joose Juice. If you can afford to, get a few different flavours as you will probably surprise yourself with what you like. 18mg is a good strength to start with, you can adjust up or down as necessary. The Joose Juice liquids are mixed to order and so will taste better after a few days to let the flavours meld (this is called steeping).

WhatHo Thu 01-May-14 09:47:49

Thanks guys, I'll check those out. I need two batteries because they run down quickly, right? Are we talking iPhone levels of crap or a bit better than that?!

tibbysmum Thu 01-May-14 10:29:37

No cigs for a week, haven't missed them once stunned

Raia Thu 01-May-14 11:16:34

wineTibbysmum! Well done you - I was stunned as well when I stopped smoking, never thought I'd see the day!

WhatHo, one of those little batteries would easily do you an evening's vaping. I was vaping like a woman possessed to begin with and found my 600mAh battery would last about 6-8 hours.

magimedi Thu 01-May-14 11:44:51

Brilliant, Tibbys.

And the other joy is you are unlikely to put on weight.

tibbysmum Thu 01-May-14 12:49:37

Thank you! It has been absolutely painless smile I truly feel emancipated!!

It helped hugely smile

Well done tibbysmum flowers

WhatHo, no matter how big the battery (mine lasts almost 3 days) it will run out at some point and it's best to have another to use when it's charging. If you are only replacing a few smokes in the evening you will have ample time to charge it during the day though.

Cantabile Fri 02-May-14 09:10:55

Hi all! Hello new vapers <waves>

My favourite clearo atm is the iClear 16; it is quite heavy on juice use though. Bottom coils like the GS-H2s that are linked to on the Evangelising threads (and this one I think) get through juice a bit more slowly.

Allergictoironing Fri 02-May-14 10:30:07

Oh my just received a Fasttech order I made on 15 April - that's only 17 days!

Cantabile Fri 02-May-14 11:09:34

grin

OohQuack Fri 02-May-14 13:30:50

:-D I made a fasttech order last week knowing I will be fine without them for a month

StampedLetter Fri 02-May-14 16:55:48

I was just in family bargains with the kids where they spend their pocket money. They had vape sticks and juice on the front counter! grin if family bargains stock it then it must be becoming very popular!

It seems since we got our own topic, we have been chatting much less! sad. I have a bit of vapers tongue, currently trying to sort it with airblast juice and tons of water.

On a positive note though, I have learnt a couple of vape tricks! grin

magimedi Sat 03-May-14 09:49:32

I have a question!

As you all know I vape The Sherlock, 12 strength. Sometimes it has been out of stock, so I buy 6 & 18 strength & mix them half & half, in bottles, not straight into the tank, shake them up & vape away.

For some reason they always taste slightly nicer than 'pure' 12 strength.

I really can not understand why.

Schro What are your vape tricks?

I'm not sure if we're chatting less or if it's just more spread out over different threads. I'd like to hear more about the tricks too smile

magi, maybe it's the shaking that makes the difference?

magimedi Sat 03-May-14 10:12:05

Don't think so, Plenty as I have taken to shaking the 'pure' 12 as well.

OohQuack Sat 03-May-14 10:33:34

Just a really daft thought but could it be like suncream? You mix two spfs together and its only the lower that counts? :-D

Id mix it with more 18 than 6 because its clearly not strong enough for whatever reason though.

magimedi Sat 03-May-14 11:05:21

I never knew that about suncream!!!

It's strong enough & tastes even nicer than 'pure' 12 .

I use empty 12 bottles to mix in - I wonder if there's a few drops of the 12 left & therefore it's a wee bit stronger & that's why it tastes better?

I'm not really worried about it - just idle curiosity.

I am a happy vaping viper. grin

Psycobabble Sat 03-May-14 11:07:48

Quitting my e cig tommorow sad sob sob! patches at the ready!!

Why psycho? would you not do better just slowly lowering the strength if you want to cut out nicotine?

Just the simple vapour in a wine glass, whirling around a d pouring it out, wee tornado on the table. smile

Allergictoironing Sat 03-May-14 13:27:40

I'm with Plenty here Psycho - I can't see there being any point in quitting e-cigs in favour of patches? There are no health benefits to patches, and they cost a fair bit more. It's easier to slowly reduce nicotine intake by mixing strengths of liquids, plus you can just vape a little bit less whereas with a patch you're going to get the same dose 24/7.

MaggieMcGill Sun 04-May-14 11:18:13

Magi I can send you Sherlock when your shop runs out, although if you are enjoying mixing your own then then there is not much point, especially if it tastes better smile

My mum is now on day 11. No one can actually believe it, she can't either. We were at a wedding on Friday and she was sitting vaping away quite happy at the table [ grin] She has even started commenting on how stinking her partner smells after a Rollie.

Allergictoironing Sun 04-May-14 12:00:25

Congratulations to your mother Maggie smile.

That's a difference I've noticed about e-cigs vs other quitting methods - you don't seem to get people evangelising about other methods like NRTs or Champix, supporting each other in the same way etc. I do understand that the range of kit and flavours/strengths on the market for e-cigs makes it much easier to have lots of subjects to chat about, which may be an additional reason why it's so good for giving up smoking?

magimedi Sun 04-May-14 12:28:10

flowers Maggie - but I am fine for stocks for at least a couple of weeks. I never let my liquid run low.

And well done to your DM.

Hello everyone, just popping in to say I've lurked on these threads but made the jump on Wednesday to stop, bought a vape and have not smoked since grin early days but feeling great.

Ok my stupid question, this is better for me right? Am I just getting the nicotine thingy without the dangerous stuff (obviously no nothing here blush) but find it good to have two on the go and switch during the day, a nicotine one and a fruit one.

It all feels a bit easy smile

Know, not no blush

magimedi Sun 04-May-14 13:21:50

It is much better for you OneStep. You are getting just the nicotine & vapour .

It is remarkably easy - I call it "having my cake & eating it" grin

No questions are too stupid re vaping. It's new & there is much terminology & it can be baffling when you start.

Kleptronic Sun 04-May-14 13:42:21

Hello! I haven't smoked a stinky for 12 days now and I'm completely amazed. I am the sort to wake up in the night and have one.

I don't really know what kit I've got, it has a replaceable coil and is called crystal vapours, it's got KangerTech Evod written on it.

In the 12 days I've gone down from 18mg to 11mg, only tried menthol though as am too skint for mistakes!

I am so happy, but also scared I'll go back to the rollies. I still crave them a couple of times a day!

magimedi Sun 04-May-14 13:48:10

Klep Well done!!

You've gone down in nicotine strength very quickly - if you really are craving you might be better to go back up to 18 again. Especially if you are a night time smoker!

After about 10 days of dedicated vaping (18mg) I tried a rollie as I still had them. It was vile - I had to go & spit & hawk, rinse my mouth & clean my teeth at least twice to get rid of the disgusting taste.

You might want to go along to your local vape shop (if you have one). They will almost certainly be happy for you to try a few other flavours.

Kleptronic Sun 04-May-14 13:59:30

Oh really, they let you try them? Thanks, I'll do that!

I've only got 24mg tobacco in or 11mg menthol and the tobacco one tastes bloody rank! I'll persevere with the 11 smile

OohQuack Sun 04-May-14 14:31:20

I still get the urge for a fag somtimes (18 days in) I sometimes, about twice a day, will have a nicorette mini and carry on vaping. Im using 24mg although ive just made my weekly order for new flavours and got them all in 18. Hopefully I wont notice any difference. My friend gave me some cherry 12 and I felt robbed of nicotine :-D clearly not ready to go that low yet!

kleptronic go have a look at the juice swap page see if anythings available

Cantabile Sun 04-May-14 14:43:35

Psycobabble, I too am wondering why you're giving up vaping in favour of patches. Do you know something we don't?

Klep, I very quickly found the baccy flavoured liquid rank, and started mixing it with apple. That helped a lot and I soon found that I didn't want the baccy flavour at all, so went onto apple completely. Then I started branching out into other flavours....... grin

I wonder if putting a bit of menthol in with the baccy will help?

Cantabile Sun 04-May-14 14:45:08

In one of the earlier threads someone said that menthol was great to vape when you had a cold. As winter was coming, I ordered a bottle as I always get really horrid colds. I haven't had one yet!

magimedi Sun 04-May-14 16:11:03

I only vape tobacco!! But I am the only one I know who does that!

Colds, Catabile no longer strike terror into my heart. I've had a couple since I gave up fags (18 months ago) & although not fun, I haven't had the awful cough & chest infections that I always used to get.

Kleptronic Sun 04-May-14 16:44:53

Can someone link me to the juice swap thread please? I'm on my phone smile

magimedi Sun 04-May-14 16:49:20

Well done OneStep and Kleptronic flowers

All the research points to vaping being waaaay safer than smoking. I'm on my tablet at the moment but will try and crank up the lappy later and post some links you should find very reassuring smile

Here we go -

Royal College of Physicians - a short read.

American Council on Science and Health - a long but easy read.

Systematic review of research in a peer reviewed journal - a long and academic read, covering all research up 'til February of this year. You will need to create a sage account to access the full paper but it is free.

Cantabile Sun 04-May-14 23:12:41

Interesting articles, Plenty. Thanks for the links.

I know that some regulation will be good, but atm whenever I read about more regulation I want to shout "I know! Let's regulate sugar!"

magimedi Mon 05-May-14 10:07:18

Why is it that so often I sit down, cup of coffee & vaper to hand, log on to MN & take a sip of coffee & a puff & the bloody battery dies?

And I keep my spares downstairs so have to get up & go & get a new battery?

Don't tell me to keep my spares upstairs - if I do that it will happen the moment I sit down in front of the TV!!

BewitchedBotheredandBewildered Mon 05-May-14 11:37:37

Ah yes, I believe this is Sod's Law in operation magi.

Keep some up, some down?

Or just think of it as good exercise!

Mrsjayy Mon 05-May-14 20:00:15

<waves> just been directed here , bought my contraption today hoping to stop the fags asap smile

Ooooh got a contraption, Mrs? grin What did you get? <nosey>

Mrsjayy Mon 05-May-14 20:14:50

it like a pen doodah it is pretty DH wanted to get the Epipe grin

A pen doodah? That sounds very technical grin Sounds like you have a shop near you that you went to? If so, they will probably have given you lots of advice to get you started - that's the big advantage of having a shop.

If you run into any problems and need advice you might need to post a photo though because 'pen doodah' covers a multitude!

Very well done for taking the plunge and best of luck flowers Let us know how it goes.

Mrsjayy Mon 05-May-14 20:25:46

yes we have a shop the woman was lovely and explained it all to me how the battery works how to charge it thepouring in off liquid looks fiddily I am so clumsy

You'll get used to it very quickly. I could probably refill mine in my sleep now grin

There's a thread here for listing vape shops - it would be good to add yours if they've been helpful. When I started 6 months ago there were pretty much no shops in London (there still aren't many compared with further north) so I got everything online and watched a lot of youtube. There's one opened in Greenwich now which is quite near me but I haven't got round to visiting yet.

OohQuack Mon 05-May-14 21:05:39

Ive seen people talk about b&m stores yhat sell e-liquid. Being naive I started to believe B&M had started selling vaping things.... apparently not so what does b&m stand for does anyone know?

bricks and mortar

as opposed to online

Raia Mon 05-May-14 22:00:01

Hello Mrsjayy, welcome to the vaping fold!

About shops, I don't know of any in my part of London - I guess the overheads are so high here that you're less likely to find small independent shops of that kind, which seems a blimmin shame. I suppose market stalls would be a better bet in London? Not seen one yet around here though.

magimedi Mon 05-May-14 22:06:37

Waves to MrsJayy - Glad you got here.

If you have a good shop, keep going there - it took at least 3 visits to my lovely local shop

(http://thevapourroomonline.co.uk/ )

to get me feeling confident about the whole thing. They could not have been more patient & I was never made to feel like an idiot!

First time I tried to refill mine it ended up al lover the table - cack handed as ever. Now I can do it whilst one the phone. All practice, that's all.

Mrsjayy Mon 05-May-14 22:09:14

well had a few puffs instead of a fag earlier start as i mean to go on , I cant even remember the shop name now it is called vapsomething

Perihelion Mon 05-May-14 23:18:39

Thanks Plenty for the link to the American Council for Health and Science report....facinating read. Good to be reminded about the potential toxicity of the liquid ( ingested and on skin )and to keep it out the way of children. Am also stunned that there have been cases of attemped suicide, using lots of nicotine patches...WTF???

Think I'm now 12 weeks off the rollies. Have moved down to 12mg from 18mg. Did a huge sprint for the bus the other day and wasn't even out of breath grin

Allergictoironing Tue 06-May-14 07:57:17

Same time for me Perihelion, was 12 weeks last night. I'm still on 18mg, but going by the amount of time my vision spinner & Ego C-twist (near enough identical) last between charges I'm vaping a bit less now - was about a day & a quarter between charges, now a day & a half grin

Perihelion Tue 06-May-14 09:34:20

Allergic I thought you'd given up at the same time as me!
I've only run my batteries right down a couple of times, as I'm slightly paranoid about having no working battery.

Well done us grin and thanks to everyone on these threads for the help so far.

waves

can i share this link

www.theguardian.com/society/2014/may/05/rise-of-e-cigarettes-miracle-or-health-risk

not really read it though, just skimmed it in my defence, but it is the guardian and should be ok

Mrsjayy Tue 06-May-14 09:41:25

Morning want to ask a daft question how many puffs do you at a time if that makes any sense I did 3/4 and then started coughing so stopped

Allergictoironing Tue 06-May-14 09:50:08

Perihelion I have a total of 5 batteries, all of which I keep charged not paranoid at all . So I should hopefully never be without grin

if i am at home mrs jayy, i just do a couple then put it down, for a bit.
it is not like smoking cigs i find. you dont take 5 or 10 minutes. i find just a few puffs are ample.
and then another few puffs a bit later.

Mrsjayy Tue 06-May-14 09:52:57

See i was wondering while I puffed it takes me 5 minutes to smoke a fag I am not doing this for 5 minutes i will die grin I did have a cigarette first thing with my coffee though

exactly, it is hard at work because before i would have walked to smoking area but now i vape on the way to the smoking area but by the time i have got there i dont want to vape any more!

Allergictoironing Tue 06-May-14 10:04:20

Mrsjayy I definitely find that I take a few puffs but more frequently, I think most vapers do that.

It might be the technique you use as well; for vaping you should take much gentler & slower draws, not much more than breathing in rather than the full-blooded drag on a real cigarette

Mrsjayy Tue 06-May-14 10:09:39

I think you are right allergic I sort of took a draw rather than just breathing I am sure i will get used to it,

Perihelion Tue 06-May-14 11:50:03

Ah Allergic I only have two 1100 batteries, having not got sucked into shinyitis, probably because I used to smoke rollies, so the cash savings to spend on other shite is less wink

MrsJayy all my still, smoking pals cough and splutter when they first have a shot of mine.

magimedi Tue 06-May-14 12:15:51

MrsJayy - It certainly takes a few days to get used to vaping - it is very different from having a fag!

Raia Would you like to PM me your address and I will post on Friday? Bought 50ml of the stuff today, cost £12 because of loyalty card! (normally £5 a bottle). grin

Maggie and anyone near Glasgow, there is a vape meet on the 18th of May at the cellar bar, fancy going?

Raia Tue 06-May-14 13:29:28

£12 for 50ml - bargain! Will pm you Schro, thank you again thanks

OohQuack Tue 06-May-14 21:43:18

Schro whats the flavour again? Im looking to google and add to the collection

Quack, it's Cobra Venom but they don't appear to sell it online yet! sad

OohQuack Tue 06-May-14 22:31:38

You know whats annoying? I'll tell you. Half my living rooms in darkness cos I turn one of the lights off during 'prep toddler for bed' time and im too lazy to turn it back on now hes gone. Plus the cats on my knee so I cant move the real issue is that ths light problen and the cat situation make it too hard to see what liquids left in the window on this evod. Fume.

I wonder if I can find something skmilar schro so I will try tomorrow

OohQuack Tue 06-May-14 22:33:11

You know whats annoying? I'll tell you. Half my living rooms in darkness cos I turn one of the lights off during 'prep toddler for bed' time and im too lazy to turn it back on now hes gone. Plus the cats on my knee so I cant move the real issue is that ths light problen and the cat situation make it too hard to see what liquids left in the window on this evod. Fume.

I wonder if I can find something skmilar schro so I will try tomorrow.

Mrsjayy Wed 07-May-14 08:24:25

morning getting on great with my vaping I have only had 3 ciggies since yesterday I am not that bothered smoking although i do like my first thing fag blush , I am still getting a bit of a sore throat hit the first vape does that go away soon

Yay well done Mrs, that's great progress!

The first vape of the day is still a little harsh and tentative after 7 months for me. It goes after a couple of puffs though.

If it's really bad you might want to switch to a VG based liquid as they are easier on the throat.

Allergictoironing Wed 07-May-14 08:35:29

Mrsjayy it took me over a month to lose my last 2 fags - first one in the morning & last thing at night. Everyone switches over at a different rate - some can switch immediately and some "dual fuel" for months. The important thing is not going backwards; keep counting the fags you haven't smoked rather than those you have.

Mrsjayy Wed 07-May-14 08:39:13

yeah that is what i am going to do and not beat myself up about the morning fag

magimedi Wed 07-May-14 08:56:29

It took me a week to switch & the first fag of the day was the last one to go.

Think of all the stinkys you aren't smoking.

OohQuack Wed 07-May-14 14:41:49

Walking through town today on the hunt for liquid shops none to be found in leicester I realised that the wiff of tobacco on people clothes as they walked past made me curl my nose.... they do say ex-smokers are the worst judges :-D

magimedi Wed 07-May-14 15:51:10

Found one here, for you Quack

https://www.facebook.com/CigE.Highcross

I'm not being arsey, it's just I'd have never got going with vaping without the help & patience of my local shop. They really are worth supporting, if you can.

Cantabile Wed 07-May-14 18:09:38

I had to do without a liquid shop for a while at first, but got so much help and encouragement and i formation from people here, including Magi, Allergic, Plenty and so many others.

Quack, re your light problem. I did see a battery that incorporated a torch, somewhere! probably FastTech. That'll solve it. So would a small lamp nearby or a standard lamp behind your seat wink

FanFuckingTastic Wed 07-May-14 18:15:11

Hello. To the lady in Leicester, I found a shop on my way to the train station.

Bought myself an Aspire BDC to go on my VIP battery, was a bit worried it wouldn't work, but it seems fine. Made the guy prove it in the shop first before I bought it.

Just wondering if anyone has used this type of top before, it's bottom loading, so I have to unscrew the filter at the bottom to fill it. Apparently I can also replace them when they stop working instead of the whole thing. So I am hoping it was a good choice.

ginmakesitallok Wed 07-May-14 18:17:45

I use a vapeonly bdc which I think is the same as the aspire? I love it, Bern using then for a few months now.

ginmakesitallok Wed 07-May-14 18:19:55

Oh and I replace my heads every 2 weeks or so, bit of a pain that you can't dry burn them, but at a tenner for 5 works out about £1 a week

OohQuack Wed 07-May-14 19:14:53

Ugh fan I walked most of the way up there today in search of it because id heared it mentioned but didn't go past cex I should have now dammit.

Magi I looked for the stall you mentioned today but there was a handbag stand there instead, so ive messaged them to find out where theyve gone.

I think I may have to put the light on to sort out my lazy can't see through the tube issues!

Evening all smile

I still haven't visited my new local vape shop in Greenwich. I was going to go a couple of weeks ago with a vaping colleague but she couldn't make it in the end. I'll make it my mission to visit this weekend. I'm a bit daunted - they have some very shiney and expensive kit in the window (from what I could see whizzing past on the bus) ... and I'm trying not to spend anything for a while, I have a good 6 month's supply of liquids and a stupid number of batteries and clearos.

Do you think they'd appreciate a purely social visit?

We've had our first gripes about this stop smoking topic in the 'vaping in legoland' thread in chat sad

I can't decide whether I have the energy to rejoin the fray. I quite wore myself out yesterday trying to explain what vaping is about to some really quite anti people. The general feeling seems to be that we're having far too much fun.

OohQuack Wed 07-May-14 20:39:17

Ooh going for a read!

YesJesseARobot Wed 07-May-14 20:49:24

I was quite tempted to link that Daily Mash article hmm

How dare we improve our health outcomes and be interested in something new?

Well I've attempted to pour oil on water here

That Daily mash article kind of needs posting too though grin

Perihelion Thu 08-May-14 01:10:03

Plenty I salute your input on the Legoland thread......
(I wonder if breathing outside on a cold day should also be banned as it looks a bit like smoking grin )

TarpalCunnel Thu 08-May-14 06:42:09

Hi everyone, hope there is room for one more grin

I gave up smoking 2 weeks ago, which has been a bit achievement for me. My last ciggie was after 3 glasses of wine..normally Id have 4 or 5 on a drinking night, but I was strict with myself and allowed myself just one. Ive been smoke-free since, but I haven't had a drink either.
To those of you who vape, do you still crave a ciggie with a drink, or is vaping enough?

Im a complete novice but Im planning on going out for drinks this weekend & Im worried I might start craving a cig sad

Allergictoironing Thu 08-May-14 07:37:15

Morning Tarpal. Congratulations on giving up, especially as it appears you've gone "cold turkey"!

Smoking is a complex addiction - it isn't just the nicotine but the hand to mouth habit, the rituals, the times you always had a cigarette etc. that can be as hard if not harder to break than the nicotine part. I took weeks to lose the last 2 cigarettes which was purely in the mind & nothing to do with nicotine addiction. And I still find now the thought drifting into my mind that I'd quite fancy a ciggy even though it's been nearly 3 months for me without one and it would probably taste vile.

So your fear is reasonable, especially if the people you are going out with smoke too; I could virtually guarantee you'll be a bit tempted especially as it's only been 2 weeks.

There's a couple of ways you could cope with this. You could avoid going out drinking especially with smoking friends for a bit longer, until you're sure you've broken the habit. You could go with the self control method; if you do this make sure you tell your mates that under no circumstances should they offer you a cig or even a draw on one, or invite you to stand with them when they go outside. Or you could think about buying a zero nicotine disposable e-cig so if the habit part gets almost unbearable then you can use that without reinforcing the old nicotine addiction.

Stay strong and good luck. I tried every other method to give up & failed every time, so I have the utmost respect for anyone who managed to give up without the on-going help of vaping smile thanks

Raia Thu 08-May-14 08:59:14

Just looked at the Legoland thread: I salute you too Plenty, the voice of reason wine

YesJesseARobot Thu 08-May-14 10:14:48

Fantastic work, Plenty thanks

Carpal, I had a horrendous year last year - the worst of my life, and found myself drinking far too much almost every night at home. I was also a forty a day smoker. Despite this, I found that vaping was just as good a way to give me my hit even after a few too many.

I've since given up alcohol altogether but if you have a couple of flavours to hand at a suitable strength and a few strategies in place such as those allergic suggests, then you should be fine. If I found vaping sufficient given my intake, blush then most people should.

YesJesseARobot Thu 08-May-14 10:15:34

*Tarpal

And well done! grin

YesJesseARobot Thu 08-May-14 10:23:16

Oh God, complete reading post fail. I assumed you were vaping. Ignore me!

Raia Thu 08-May-14 10:33:47

I meant to offer my congratulations as well Tarpal - well done and good luck with the night out smile

Anyone else having vivid dreams since giving up stinkies/starting vaping? I didn't used to dream like I do now. I woke myself up laughing this morning after Phil Mitchell turned up in my dream as a French fishmonger (but speaking French really badly, eg "poy-sonz" for fish lol)

MistressDeeCee Thu 08-May-14 15:47:46

Ohhh - there you all are! So the dedicated space did happen smile the threads are so good for support.

I started vaping last year and apart from the odd sneaky cig here & there (once a week mostly but Ive minimised even that lately) then Im happy with vaping. Much prefer it to real cigs, and the good benefits re. health & more money in my pocket!

So..I have a question re. EGO CE4 batteries. I dont have a dedicated place where I buy, but a couple I have bought, the casing has broken quite quickly. I don't have loads of cash to spare at present - does anyone know where I can buy a sturdy battery at aa (very) reasonable price, preferably 900mah or above? Looked at some on Amazon but its difficult as the reviews on items are so mixed I can't really tell whats going on. Or if anyone buys from Amazon or Ebay have you bought one thats lasted the course? How long should they last anyway? or is it a case of handling with very delicate care?

Any advice appreciated thanks

Allergictoironing Thu 08-May-14 16:15:53

Hi again MistressDeeCee.

I think you may be slightly confused on the terminology. CE4 is a style of clearo, the bit you put the liquid in and contains the atomiser. The battery will be a separate part that literally is just a battery in a case with the relevant screw fitting for the clearo.

So really need to determine what part is breaking and why. Is it the casing on the battery, or the clearo plastic that's cracking?

MyEPack is a decent supplier & really good value, so I'm linking to their pages on batteries here and clearos here, which should help us track down where the problem really is smile

magimedi Thu 08-May-14 16:34:59

I would also recommend ecigwizard.com

Decent kit, the real thing. You may pay a bit more than some Amazon suppliers, but............

Or - have you got a local vape shop? If so, pop in there & have a chat with them. My shop guarantees all batteries for at least 6 weeks.

magimedi Thu 08-May-14 16:36:58
PolterGoose Thu 08-May-14 16:41:34

I've done 5 days vaping, having found a few 100% VG juices and still experimenting with kit, but it's good. I'm surprised how much better I feel so quickly. My lungs feel like I've taken a couple of puffs of Ventolin and I'm not so tired even though my insomnia is worse confused it's fantastic not stinking and my hands are less ragged as I'm not forever washing my hands.

magimedi Thu 08-May-14 16:55:30

Polter Your sleep pattern will settle after a week or so - but (& I know others have said this) I get the most vivd dreams since stopping smoking. Lots of dreams with people I know or have known & they are very 'busy' dreams.

The lung function will go on improving for about 6 months!!

magimedi Thu 08-May-14 17:00:42

Ooh how exciting!

Well done Polter, that's brilliant! flowers

I have been disappointed with batteries from myepack. We got these Kanger Evod batteries as part of a kit back before christmas. They're lasting OK but the power tails off a bit before they need recharging.

If you can afford to wait a while, I've been quite impressed with these from Fasttech.

magimedi Thu 08-May-14 17:26:47

Plenty Are those batteries made by different people?

I quite fancy the fast tech one - how long is delivery?

They've got a proper kanger logo on the underneath, I think they're genuine, ours came with the protank kits.

Sorry I can't remember how long the FT ones took to arrive - some weeks! I tend to order while drunk and then forget about it until a parcel arrives.

Oi! Rainbow fans! Look at this!!!

Allergictoironing Thu 08-May-14 18:15:30

Oh. My. Gods. That's TOO blingy even for me I think!

OohQuack Thu 08-May-14 20:01:17

Well today ive allowed myself to try my evod glass its beautiful, ive got a protank3 to try aswell but I limit myself to two clearos on the go at one time so I dont have loads of bits and pieces floating round. But it seems my upgrades are certainly headed in the right direction.

Not sure on the black jack juice ive put in it butits not offensive

Im in love sort of I even like the weightyness and the metal mouth bit.

Cantabile Thu 08-May-14 21:32:26

Oh I love that rainbow drip tip! I have just had a shopping accident blush

MistressDeeCee Thu 08-May-14 21:49:46

Allergictoironing sorry, I meant the battery! Thanks for info smile

Allergictoironing Thu 08-May-14 22:35:15

That's worrying then Mistress, as the battery casing really shouldn't break! I use mine pretty constantly, have dropped them on concrete flooring, have them jumbling around in my pocket, fiddle with them constantly, even woke up one morning to find I'd dropped one in bed with me & had been sleeping on it!

I think you just need to make sure that the batteries you buy are genuine ones (not marked "style" or "type" etc.) and only buy from reputable places - the initial purchase will likely be more expensive but a) they should last a long time and b) safety must be of paramount importance. My personal favorites at present are the Vision spinner and Ego C-twist (near enough identical) - standard cylindrical batteries with variable voltage, and the added advantage that they come in pretty colours including the lovely rainbow and a gorgeous sort of velvety texture blood red among others. As Magi says above ecigwizard seem to be good & good value, as are Myepack, and I'm sure others will have their own recommendations on highly reputable vendors smile.

MistressDeeCee Fri 09-May-14 00:32:42

Allergic its the silver bit at the top of battery that breaks, if that makes sense. I admit a couple of times I haven't been that careful, fell asleep must have rolled forward & battery was crushed!! Still tho, the other day I was screwing a battery into USB charger and the top came off in my hand. So annoying. Im off to look up Vision spinner Ego C-twist ecigwizard in a minute then, thanks. Is there a standard 'marking' on batteries so you know they are genuine, by the way?

Allergictoironing Fri 09-May-14 07:57:48

Well my spinner & Ego C-twist both have the brand printed on the side of the battery, very discretely near the base. But in general the better vendors will make it clear that the product they are selling is genuine branded e.g. Myepack specifically states the brand & model they are selling and even shows that in the pictures. Have PM'd you......

Cantabile Fri 09-May-14 08:18:48

MistressDeeCee, I got my very first kit from Totally Wicked back in October. It's still going strong. (Totally Wicked blotted their copybook in the vaping world in some way, some years ago, I have no idea what they did.) Their kit is good and is genuine, not the cheapest though.

magimedi Fri 09-May-14 17:42:32

I went shopping this morning & bought a denim skirt & a pair of cut offs for the summer (ever hopeful, me).

I have dropped a size!!!!!!!

I really do put it down to giving up smoking & taking up vaping. I am doing about 10 x as much exercise as I used to as I now have such improved lung function.

I spent this afternoon going through summer clothes & the local hospice shop has two bags of stuff that is far too big for me.

I am so happy, am off to have some wine & a vape!

Brilliant magi! flowers

Cantabile, Totally Wicked gave a massive bung donation to UKIP just before the TPD vote in February. Some people went off them a bit because of that (other people thought they were marvellous!). It didn't do any good in any case, hardly any UKIP members turned up to vote at all.

Did they do something else questionable years ago?

PolterGoose Fri 09-May-14 18:29:30

magi fantastic, well done smile

Cantabile Fri 09-May-14 18:50:07

As far as I can make out, Plenty, yes. When I first started vaping, I was looking at lots of vaping forums and saw a few historic posts on them -people saying things along the lines of "I would never buy from TW after what they did". I gathered that whatever it was was probably around 3 years ago, and got the impression it might have been something to do with trying to crush competition.

They may be the biggest, longest established in the UK (I'm guessing now, but I know they have been around for at least 5 years) and have more financial clout than many, so they're probably very useful if industry-led legal challenges to anti-vaping legislation are required.

Cantabile Fri 09-May-14 18:52:31

Magi, that is brilliant! Well done, have a bike to help you on your way!

Oh look, I bet it's this or maybe this shock

Sounds like this Jason Cropper guy is a bit of a loose cannon, but is no longer with the company.

It's not really funny because he was quite badly attacked but there's the most wonderful DM sadface of him here.

Raia I got that today! I meant to come on and say that yours can't be posted until Tuesday (possibly Monday but Tuesday at the latest) but it is on it's way and I have put some Swedish Fish in too and there's 10ml of the cobra venom, sorry for taking so long. smile

Cantabile Sun 11-May-14 00:07:43

Plenty, how do you find this stuff?! I think it was probably the attempted gagging of vapers with criticisms of his stuff. Utterly stupid of him, but he doesn't sound like the most hinged person in the world. The sad face is an excellent one, not that he deserved to be attacked, and I hope they get the slimeballs who did it.

TW has the money and industry clout and expertise to mount a pretty good resistance to silly legislation though.

It's amazing what you can find by clicking past the first page of google results grin

They do have lots of money and industry clout. I can't help feeling that what's needed right now is diplomacy and PR and I think that's something they struggle with. They could be good if it ever came to legal challenges though.

magimedi Sun 11-May-14 20:29:05

Plenty - Has Mr Holmes arrived chez vous?

Shonajay Sun 11-May-14 20:49:45

It's my seven week anniversary today! After thirty years of twenty a day. Couldn't have done it without you and I haven't had as much of a puff of a stinky. So pleased.x

Raia Mon 12-May-14 10:57:30

Congrats Shona wine We must've given up at almost the same time - I stopped on March 19th <proud>

Schro - I feel like an awful stingy person, I only sent you about 5ml of the Pina Colada. I owe you a bottle of juice!

I have to go to the dentist tomorrow morning. I have ruined my teeth and gums through smoking and haven't had a checkup in far too long. Am absolutely dreading it (am fearing I'll have to have multiple teeth extracted or that I'll be asked to be the next model for the scary fag packet warning photos) but at least I can tell him that I no longer smoke.

Perihelion Mon 12-May-14 15:45:27

Has anyone's skin gone shite since stopping smoking? I've not had so many spots since I was a teenager ( long time ago! ). I even have spots on my neck......

magimedi Mon 12-May-14 15:59:59

Well done Shona.

Raia - my teeth have got so much whiter in the 19 months since I've stopped. Mind you, I had to go to the dentist this am as had a sore tooth all last week. That tooth is now gone. Luckily a very back one.

Perihelion Yes, I went through a phase of bad skin, but in the last 6 months or so it's gone back to being OK.

Shona that's brilliant! flowers Especially well done considering all the aggro you've had with equipment.

Well done Raia too flowers My teeth are totally fucked. I had to have half of them out before I stopped smoking. My gums are slowly getting better and with a bit of luck I won't lose any more. If you have to have a load out and you're very nervous find somewhere that does sedation - it's the bollox grin

magi no, Mr Holmes hasn't arrived yet, is he on his way? Really looking forward to meeting him smile

Perihelion, yes spots are normal when you stop smoking. Mine have calmed down now but hair and skin are both still oilier than they were when I smoked. At my age that's probably supposed to be a good thing but I don't like it.

Perihelion Mon 12-May-14 20:59:20

Um how long were your shite skin phases? I thought I'd be fabulous and glowing, not spotty......

OohQuack Mon 12-May-14 21:22:21

Perihelion. Im in the shite skin phase it started last week but I look awful thank god for bb cream

Also im getting my first fluey cold since stopping smoking so the test will be how long it hangs around for... im also trying out the vape menthol thing someone mentioned see if that helps.

magimedi Mon 12-May-14 21:40:22

Mr Holmes was sent last Wednesday!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He is a clueless git about finding his way!!

His second in command will be sent soon if he does not arrive!

OohQuack Mon 12-May-14 21:51:28

Raia on the dentist situ I went for the first time in ten years last year and I HAD a massive fear of them but I think the fear was also embaressment for the state of my teeth. But apparently they weren't that bad! Fair enough I had to have three out but they were causing me absolute agony and now they are gone its all good.

When u go just keep in mind they will have seen teeth FAR worse than yours!

Raia Don't be silly! There isn't much of the Swedish fish in there and it makes up for me taking so long hopefully!
The Pina Colada was a throat killer for me. sad Tastes lovely too!

Allergictoironing Tue 13-May-14 07:16:05

13 weeks/3 months fag free as of last night! grin

Never lasted more than a couple of days before, I am so happy.

Don't you dare magi! If he's not here by Friday I shall order my own smile

Allergic, well done flowers

Raia Tue 13-May-14 09:37:40

Just want to thank you Plenty and OohQuack for the words of encouragement about this dreaded dentist appointment (it's at 10 o'clock, aargh) - you've really bolstered my confidence and I'm sort of looking forward to it in that I REALLY want to sort my teeth out. It'll be a huge weight off my shoulders and I think I'll be fine once I've got this first appointment out of the way (yep, very much feeling ashamed and embarrassed at the state i've let my teeth and gums get into blush). Have taken half a valium to take the edge of the anxiety ...

Quack, hope that cold clears up quickly! I've noticed already that I seem to heal better from things since stopping smoking (eg spots don't hang about for weeks any more).

Schro, the pina colada does deliver a big throat hit doesn't it? I think that's why I like it grin

Raia Tue 13-May-14 09:38:32

Oh and congratulations Allergic wine

Raia Tue 13-May-14 11:37:54

Apologies for going on about my teeth: just wanted to give a quick update. As expected gums are fucked - will be seeing the hygienist at least twice a year and following whatever regimen she/he gives me. Have to have one back tooth out, a root canal filling and two regular fillings. Dreading the root canal treatment: I'm tempted to tell him just to take it out confused This is what smoking has done to me! I feel like such an idiot! Still, not as bad as I feared. I'm sure if this was the 70s they would just whip the lot out and be done with it grin

Mr Holmes is here! Just dashing out now but looking forward to getting to know him later tonight smile Thanks magi x

I started vaping, thanks to all of you lovely people on these threads, 6 days ago.

I've been a 20 a day smoker for the best part of 18 years, I managed to stop completley when I was pregnant but it never lasted afterwards IYSWIM.

So anyway I've been following these threads for a while, took the plunge and....it's been pretty much ok.

I didnt think it would work tbh and I have to be honest and say I am still smoking 2 actual cigarettes a day, first thing in the morning and after my dinner but that's it.

So thank you everyone.

Raia Tue 13-May-14 12:00:17

That's brilliant Tantrums, well done wine

Poor you Raia but well done for going. Dentist told me my teeth were 'absolutely fine' just very stained and, sadly, dropping out of the rubbishy gums.

Brilliant Tantrums, well done flowers Just keep counting the ones you don't smoke, not the ones you do.

magimedi Tue 13-May-14 12:19:41

I am so pleased, Plenty. Hope you enjoy a good puff of him wink

Tantrum Well done! I 'dual fuelled @ for the first week or so & then just decided the fags could go.

I was worried that not having my first fag & coffee would upset my bowels (ie wouldn't shit!) but a vape does exactly the same as a smoke!!

My mouth is very dry though, is that normal? Or am I doing it wrong?

Raia Tue 13-May-14 13:29:24

Dry mouth is totally normal Tantrums - I started drinking lots of water and my mouth is normal again now, but I had a bad case of vaper's tongue for a couple of weeks at the beginning!

srj52 Tue 13-May-14 14:40:47

Hi I'm new to mumsnet and pretty new to vaping too. I have been reading your vaping threads and found them very interesting and encouraging. Some of the anti vaping posts had me gnashing my teeth though! I thought I would post my experiences re vaping as maybe they might be useful to anyone just starting out. I have been a light smoker on and off for years and even gave up for six years until I started again a couple of years ago. My kids don't know I smoked but it was getting harder to hide it eg 'why do you smell funny?'when I'd been out! Decided to stop for Lent as I felt a definite time frame/target would help. Knowing my weakest time is when I'm drinking with smoking friends, I bought an e lite one evening. I quite liked the taste and it satisfied the hand to mouth need. Feels balanced to have a drink in one hand and a 'fag' in the other! But they work out very costly. After research (obsessively!) I plumped for a Jacvapour kit which I loved - still do. Like their cartridges which you can also refill with eliquid. Have just bought a kanger evod kit which I like too although I think that will be for at home only and the jacvapours for nights out. Have had only one stinky since Feb and feel much healthier. I think the specialist vaping sites can be a bit intimidating and techie for newbies so having vaping threads on here is great!

magimedi Tue 13-May-14 15:09:37

Lovely to hear from another vaper, srj & well done on the lack of stinkys!

Thanks for the nice words about all the threads, we (who have been vaping for some time) honestly say that NO question is to silly to ask & all questions are welcome.

It's a real minefield when you first start (I poured my first lot of juice straight through the mouthpiece onto the table!!) & some of the terminology can be baffling.

Cantabile Tue 13-May-14 15:47:36

Hi, srj, and Congratulations!

The trouble with new things is that most people don't understand them, and a few automatically reject them. Unfortunately, it is this minority which tends to be most vocal. Furthermore, with all politicians doing little more than chasing votes these days, we end up with a situation where a brilliant improvement to our lives (everyone's, not just smokers') is banned just because those who shout loudest are the ones who get heard.

Shonajay Tue 13-May-14 15:49:29

Thankyou congrats to you too! Did you see that caroline aherne has been diagnosed with lung cancer at aged 50? I shuddered reading that. Makes me so glad I've stopped x

SoleSource Tue 13-May-14 18:18:39

Hello smile

My EGO GT battery reused to charge. I bought a new battery yesterday. That also refused to charge. I returned to the shop today and was given a new battery. Batch of faulty batteries apparently. Now have my e cig back and vaping lots of clouds. Bought new tank too.

How often do you change wicks (if you have them)?

I do not know how to change the wicks, I shall go back to the shop for a tutorial and buy some spare wicks.

Raia Tue 13-May-14 18:35:47

I'm finding that my wicks/coils/atomiser heads/whatever-the-fucks last about ten to fourteen days, and i can extend their life a bit by washing and dry burning them. Dunno if this is average but at £2 a go (approx) it seems reasonable enough?

SoleSource Tue 13-May-14 19:37:27

Oh thanks Raia smile

Do the wicks not just set on fire?

magimedi Tue 13-May-14 19:57:32

I change my wick weekly - but I vape a hell of a lot. Can't be arsed to do the whole dry burn thing, because I know I'd cock it up.

The lovely Kate at my local shop gives me a great discount (as I have sent so many people her way) so my wicks only cost £1 or so.

Great to hear you are still off the fags, Sole.

And Sole's tale of bad batch of batteries just reinforces my mantra of 'go to your local vape shop'!!

You get service & attention & guarantees on your kit, 'cos they charge more than on line places they have to be really good on customer service.

And wouldn't you like to see your High Street filled with vape shops, rather than charity shops & T*s*o??????

PolterGoose Tue 13-May-14 20:06:12

Raia well down with the dentist, I didn't go for around 20 years but since then I've done regular check ups and hygienist and it's so much better, in fact last time the dentist expressed surprise I was a smoker shock

I'm on day 11 vaping, today was a bit triumphant as I was on heavy going training all day and 1. I could stealth vape when I went for a wee and 2. They don't have a vaping policy on site so I could vape while the smokers were asked to move on grin There are definite moments when I think 'Fag Time' and have to remember I'm vaping, but once I've vaped I feel satiated, sometimes I even look for the ashtray when I'm vaping in my smoking spot outside at home, and go to wash my hands like I did after a fag. It's very strange and slightly surreal.

magimedi Tue 13-May-14 20:10:48

Polter It is very odd to start with & I wanted to do the 'tap' on my vaper as you would with a fag.

You really will get used to it within the next couple of weeks & fags & all the associated 'smoking' stuff will become a dim & distant memory.

Well done on 11 days! flowers

PolterGoose Tue 13-May-14 20:28:31

Thanks magi these threads have helped hugely, I wouldn't have done it without all you seasoned vapers sharing your wisdom, it has been surprisingly easy since I got my juice issues sorted smile

LumionaMoonsplash Tue 13-May-14 21:01:28

Helloooo, vapers. I'm a newbie to vaping, started on Thursday. I'm loving it more than I expected. Its like smoking but without the arse ache. Don't have to go out in the rain/ hail. I don't smell, though I can smell other things now. My tastebuds are returning too. I have the cola flavoured one which tastes of haribo cola bottles. The liquid states 1.8% is that 18mg?

magimedi Tue 13-May-14 22:28:51

1.8 is indeed 18mg. It's the strength that most ex smokers start with, unles they smoked Capstan full strenght & thenm they might need 24 or 2.4! grin

I'm getting on very well with The Sherlock magi, thank you! I'm not sure whether I prefer it to my usual RY4/RY6 blend, I'll probably know by the end of the bottle. Have you tried RY5? It's a similar kind of flavour.

Sole, the wicks don't burn because they are made of silica.

I change my wick weekly, sometimes go a bit longer. As I rebuild them it probably costs about 3p each time.

Welcome srj and Lumiona, well done flowers

Cantabile Wed 14-May-14 09:01:20

I dry burn often - it's fun!

I changed a wick once, on a CE4 which wasn't actually designed to be taken apart, so though the wick-changing was successful the putting the whole thing back together and using it wasn't so great! The new wick was hand made by me, of tightly twisted cotton wool. It worked but the clearo was never the same so I chucked it, bought some GS-H2s, then some CE5s and then some iClear 16s. My fave are CE5s but the lovely lovely mouthpiece which came with my MVP doesn't fit in them, otherwise I wouldn't use anything else.

Plenty, where do you get your wicks and wire, and which ones? I think I shall try rebuilding at last.

Oh I love this new stop smoking topic because it means I can just link grin

Worth mentioning (but I'm sure you already know cantabile) that if you are using cotton wicks they will burn and need removing before you dry burn your coil.

magimedi Wed 14-May-14 09:16:43

Where do you get RY5 from?

I'm going to order some if you say it's similar, as it worried me a bit, only liking one juice.

magimedi Wed 14-May-14 09:17:04

worries

Shonajay Wed 14-May-14 09:34:16

I change mine monlthy seems to work okay. Just realised, with all my hand me downs, that's my daughter aged twenty and my 25 yo son stopped smoking too. Still loving vaping got a quick shot of my new jinty last night and OMG the flavour and vape is much more intense! Have to set it up by computer so dh is doing it tonight as I'm clueless!x

Allergictoironing Wed 14-May-14 09:55:42

Heh is this the same Shona who was worried about how complex vaping would be? Buying a mod that needs to be set up by computer???

charlietangoteakettlebarbeque Wed 14-May-14 12:48:42

Hello, new here so marking my place. Will try and read entire thread once ds has gone to bed tonight and I have space to think and breathe

Got blood test results back yesterday and I have very high carbon monoxide in my blood, due to smoking. I got the gas safety people in yesterday to do a check but there was no sign of Co, so I can blame nothing except the cigs

I do have an e cig, it's my partner's. It's called sky cig. But it's run out and I don't know how to work it. After a particularly stressful morning, I succumbed and had a smoke. I feel dreadful and so have come on here for support.

Anyway enough drivel, my ds is about to wake from nap. Have brushed my teeth and washed my hands after the cig, made me feel sick and ashamed.

Laters people.

magimedi Wed 14-May-14 13:10:50

I started with sky cigs - TBH they aren't very good & are quite expensive. (They are what are sometimes called a cigalike)

This is Allergic's great summary of vaping for beginners:

""A very simple guide for those who have been a bit overwhelmed by all the variety discussed on this thread. Experienced vapers either ignore, or check for errors please!

There can be a trade off to be considered around cost, variety, overall experience and hassle.

The cigalike ones are the simplest to deal with in that you just unscrew one cart & screw in another. These tend to be the type that you can buy at the local market or shopping centre for a comparatively cheap initial purchase, but the carts they use can be very expensive and tend to be limited in flavours/strengths depending on brand. They can be useful in that they are small, look the most like "real" cigs, and are the most hassle-free, but the experience really isn't as good as other methods and the cost is higher.

The next step is to have a battery and disposable tank type system (CE4 in my case) where you buy the different liquids and fill the tank yourself. The batteries last a few months to a year (about the same or a little longer than the cigalikes) and the tanks (clearomisers) last anything from a couple of weeks to a couple of months - this can be extended by cleaning, but the coils inside do eventually pack in. This method is much cheaper and gives a much more satisfying experience, but has the added faff of unscrewing and topping up the tank rather than just chucking the

You can then go further and use tanks that have replaceable wicks & coils, can be stripped down & "serviced" etc. There's also a lot of variety and complexity available in the overall set-up e.g. variable voltage batteries. All these add to the hassle factor but allow the overall experience to be much better fine tuned to suit the vaper. Cost is a moot point here - you will save money using serviceable tanks, but people that get really into this can spend a fair bit on shiney new toys!

When it comes to the "juice" or liquid there's a hell of a lot of different things to consider - nicotine strength, flavour, the balance of "throat hit" vs vapour etc. But basically there are 3 ways to get the right juice which are buy ready made from a big importer (limited options), buy made to order from a smaller supplier (needs to steep for a few days), or buy the makings & mix your own (hassle, mess & steeping). These have been ordered from minimum hassle/maximum price to maximum hassle/minimum cost.

I'm a naturally lazy person and comparatively new to vaping, so I have a battery & disposable tank system, and am currently buying imported juice (Hangsen pineapple and Smartjuice Red tobacco flavour) which I know has steeped plenty while being shipped over and both brands have very good quality control. I will probably go directly to mostly mixing my own once I get a bit more money at the end of the month to buy all the bits & base liquids, though will probably continue buying the Smartjuice tobacco flavour because I like it so much! I doubt I will go down the road of serviceable tanks unless I get a nice glass one eventually."

Have a look here : www.mumsnet.com/Talk/stop_smoking/2061712-Good-Vaping-Starter-Kits

for vaping starter kits

srj52 Wed 14-May-14 15:44:03

Hi charlietango! If you like the idea of CIG a likes I would recommend jacvapour as you can refill the carts with your own liquid. I have also bought blank carts for my original e lites which I have filled - I got them from cartomizer world and I think they do compatible carts for sky CIG too. Much cheaper than the branded ones and that lets you continue to use batteries you already have. You can also find a flavour you like. I think it is vital to always have access to a charged battery and full carts to help you not reach for a stinky CIG. My only lapse has been when I was out and my only battery went flat ( alcohol may also have been a factor!) Don't give up on the vaping idea just cos you don't like skycigs - there are so many other better options out there!

srj52 Wed 14-May-14 15:46:28

Sitting here enveloped in loads of vapour from my evod I suddenly thought of the smoking caterpillar in Alice in Wonderland! Not sure that's good......!

srj52 Wed 14-May-14 15:46:44

Sitting here enveloped in loads of vapour from my evod I suddenly thought of the smoking caterpillar in Alice in Wonderland! Not sure that's good......!

charlietangoteakettlebarbeque Wed 14-May-14 19:39:50

srj52 that image has me smiling

thanks for the explanation, magimedi

but

oh god I'm still confused. Maybe I will get my dp to teach me how to use the ones we have, I'm better when I'm actually shown something and use it. Then maybe I can get to grips with terminology and buy better.

Allergictoironing Wed 14-May-14 20:22:03

Do you have any vaping shops in a nearby town Charlietango? Just about all of them will be a little bit nore expensive than buying the equivalent kit on line, but the advice & help you get will be invaluable. And many will let you try before you buy, to make sure they are selling something that does suit you - ideal for tasting different flavours too grin

magi I'll put some RY5 in the post for you - same address as last time? I get mine from Premier ecigs - £2.50 for 10ml, but I buy it 30ml at a time so will decant some for you into a 10ml bottle smile

charlie, welcome to the vapers' nest grin I think the important thing is to just buy something and get started. I dithered around for 18 months before I bought some kit because I didn't know which was the 'best' when actually pretty much anything would have been good enough, at least to start with.

If you're happy with the sky cigs then stick with them for now but as srj says, seek out some refillable cartomisers for them - actually you might want to see if you can prise off the plastic cap off one of your empty ones (paperclip is good for this), if so you can refill those quite a few times. There's a video I posted a while back - I'll see if I can find it.

If you want a step up that won't cost you any more in the long run, you could do a lot worse than get two of these - get two so you have two batteries. The batteries will last you way longer than the skycig and you will probably prefer the vape you get off it (although some people do prefer cartomisers to a tank).

Youtube is brilliant for finding out how to use whatever you buy. Search for the name of the clearomiser and you'll find loads, e.g. if you get the kit I linked to, search for iclear 16 and you will find lots of reviews which usually show you how to fill and look after it.

For liquid, I usually get mine from Premier ecigs - they do a very wide variety of flavours for £2/10ml which should last you the best part of a week at least. It doesn't need steeping from here, you can use it straight away. Get a few different flavours and experiment until you work out what you like. Most 20 a day smokers do ok on 18mg (1.8%) to start with. Adjust up or down as necessary.

Ignore anything I have written that has confused you more smile

Oh yes, go to a shop if you have one nearby. I always forget that because London is so poorly served (although slowly improving) - when I started there was nothing anywhere near me!

how to refill a 'disposable' cig-alike cartomiser - a few brands are glued shut though, I'm not sure about sky cigs - worth a try?

charlietangoteakettlebarbeque Wed 14-May-14 21:27:27

Just seen that there is an e cig shop a couple of bus rides away from me, somewhere I used to live. I'll go down there this weekend and speak to someone, test it out, and make a purchase. Maybe meet a friend too, if she's about!

Still really confused by it all, the more I read the more confused I get. So hopefully ill get the gist of it at the shop.

Yes, go to a shop and buy a thingy! It gets lots less confusing once you own a thingy and you know what your particular thingy is called grin

magimedi Wed 14-May-14 22:41:21

Go to the shop!

I was so berluddy confused & confuddled if I hadn't gone to the shop I'd still be in a mess!

Honestly, the shop will sort you out!

Plenty - it's a lovely offer, but please don't put yourself out to so it - especially as I think all your offerings will be 18 & I am down to 12!!

I will order some & give it a whirl!

magimedi Wed 14-May-14 22:42:00

do not so - fat berluddy fingers again!

SoleSource Thu 15-May-14 14:36:03

Going to different shop tomorrow. The VVaper shop has very limited stock. I'm going to buy another battery, one charged, one on the go smile

magimedi Thu 15-May-14 15:55:00

Good stuff, Sole How long off the fags is it now?

&Plenty* I've looked at premier & can't find RY5 - does it go under another name?

SoleSource Thu 15-May-14 16:30:53

Hi magi x

twelve weeks smile

magimedi Thu 15-May-14 16:33:42

That's three months!! And a quarter of a year!!!

Well done - it's such a boost, isn't it?

SpringItOn Thu 15-May-14 17:05:19

Hello! I didn't realise this was a special vapers corner! Just marking my place! I've been vaping around 16 months now I reckon. Initially gave up with patches, clamped on two and a half stone, was miserable so went back to the evil fags. When I gave up again, I vaped instead and lost the weight smile

I stealth vape everywhere! Cinema, theatre, supermarket, work....... No ones told me off...... Yet!

I have a vape shop at the bottom of my road which is handy. We need a vape emoticon imagine the anti brigade grin

I started out with menthol as it was the fag of choice but now I like
Chocolatey/Vanilla ones and have gone off menthol.

Allergictoironing Thu 15-May-14 17:19:30

Welcome SpringItOn. Could you put the details of your local vaping shop in the thread here please? We're trying to get a bit of a list going for people both existing vapers & those who want to start smile.

magimedi Thu 15-May-14 17:20:43

Well done on 16 months, Spring.

If your shop is good, we've a thread for local shops. And a thread for liquid swaps if you've any old stuff kicking around.

SpringItOn Thu 15-May-14 17:24:42

Will do. I'll have a look through my spare liquids later, definitely have a few to pass on!

magi - oh yeah I always forget other people will be on different strengths, yes I'm on 18mg. It's one of the 'Premium' liquids (hence £2.50 instead of £2) - here. Interesting review on that page says HS Storm tastes exactly like golden vag - I might try that next time I order. I think DH might like double blueberry too.

Well done Sole and Spring flowers

OohQuack Thu 15-May-14 22:06:52

:O golden vag.

Now im clutching straws but vg is made with glycerine is that right? Then surely it will help with my sore throat? :-D

YesJesseARobot Thu 15-May-14 22:59:35

Golden Vag grin

SoleSource Fri 16-May-14 00:34:21

Thanks Plenty x

Golden vag pmsl

Shonajay Fri 16-May-14 01:13:06

I'm addicted to trip hammers refresher- I've bought a couple of the 30 ml bottles but does anyone know anywhere that sell any flavours in 100ml bottles? I'm sure I saw somewhere online but can't for the life of me remember where.x

Allergictoironing Fri 16-May-14 07:15:49

Bargain Vapour is the only one I know who sell really large amounts of liquid, but only for Hangsen & Texas Select. Though whoever it was who was after RY5, they do seem to have that by Hangsen?

Triphammer is a "boutique" eliquid & as such the only place you are likely to get large quantities is from the guy himself. If you're really getting through it in such large amounts, how about giving him a call?

Raia Fri 16-May-14 08:38:10

grin at golden vag

I've suddenly started coughing when I vape and my chest feels tight and wheezy, WTF? I haven't got a cold so I don't know what's going on. Am I over-vaping?

Shonajay Fri 16-May-14 09:18:00

Allergic I've just gone and bought 3x30 there's a few asking him for bigger sizes. Oh and I got love hearts too, excited! My mate Sandra and I are off to lanzarote for a week in four weeks so am stocking up, we were going to go to Egypt to celebrate my 3 years cancer free, but they wanted £800 for insurance online quote, then phoned and because I'm still seeing the cancer specialist every six months rather than a year they wouldn't insure me at all!

Quite glad actually as was bit scared to be honest, and lanzarote is safe, I've been once and loved it, and it's about 25 degrees so not nuts hot like Egypt. Sorry rambling on, am SO excited! A week in the sun, all inclusive, no kids! Bliss! It'll be funny not buying duty free though I used to heard straight to the cigarette section! X

magimedi Fri 16-May-14 09:29:50

Raia - could it be hayfever or an allergy?

Shona - Have a wonderful time. Take all the kit you need. I was in Tenerife last year & there were vaping shops but the prices were 50% more than UK!! And you can go to Duty Free for wine or gin!

Shonajay Fri 16-May-14 09:43:47

Allergic thanks so much for that link, just got 2x100mls of Hansen bubblegum and red cola for £24 delivered!? Wild.

Magi- thankyou! I've got adapters, spare clearos, and three batteries and two chargers so hopefully be okay. We are staying at vik club coral beach which is apparently really quiet, so hardly any shops which is good as its all inclusive so don't want to have to spend too much. Last time I was on holiday was Cape Verde which was lovely, and was in the supermarket when I got a call from the consultant saying I had cancer and had to go into hospital the next day! So hopefully a better time this time! X

magimedi Fri 16-May-14 10:03:35

Am sure you will have a better time.

If you go out & do any trips the Timinfaya volcano area is amazing.

As is Lagomar, an amazing cave house with a stream running through it, built for Omar Sharif & he lost it gambling (something like that). Totally fantastical!

Allergictoironing Fri 16-May-14 10:25:39

Shona I would also still be a bit careful about Egypt right now due to the political situation. I went in November a few years back & the weather was near enough ideal, hot but not TOO hot (mmm Nile cruise).

Be aware that Bargain Vapour 100ml purchases don't come in a cute little dripper bottle like most e-liquids! It comes in what looks like the tubs you get when you buy 98 Neurofen tablets, or loose prescription drugs, and with a foil seal. You'll need a pipette or something similar to get the liquid into your dropper bottles.

Shonajay Fri 16-May-14 12:15:09

Yep, am glad we aren't going to Egypt, lanzarote much nearer too. I've got syringes from diabetic friend will use some of those, thankyou! Saved me a fortune. Now to get rid of all the ones I've not opened!

Raia Fri 16-May-14 18:43:38

Your holiday plans sound fab Shona, I hope you have a wonderfuo time smile

Magi, I don't normally get hayfever and don't have any allergies that I know of - it's really weird! I'm putting it down to general bodily changes from giving up smoking and/or vaping too much. Tend to unthinkingly chain vape so I think I'll make a point of putting the thing down and giving myself some breaks just in case I'm drying out my throat too much or something confused

Raia Fri 16-May-14 18:47:15

Or even a WONDERFUL time!

Allergictoironing Fri 16-May-14 19:29:51

It might be your lungs starting the clear-out Raia? Can take months with some people to shift all the gunk that's built up over the years.

Raia have you started using any new flavours recently? It might be something in one of the flavours that doesn't agree with you. I can't do fruit flavours at all as they give me a sore mouth.

Shona, have a brilliant holiday! There's a recent VTTV video on Youtube with lots of advice for travelling with your kit here - you might want to skip the first ten minutes as there's a lot of farting around before they start properly.

Raia Fri 16-May-14 23:14:38

That's the strange thing, the coughing/wheezing started the other day while vaping the same juices I've been using for weeks and weeks without incident (one is 70PG/30VG and the other is 50/50 - I did wonder if I was developing some kind of allergy to one or the other ingredient but it seems unlikely ... or does it?). It's bizarre! Maybe as you say Allergic it's just the crap starting to clear out of my lungs, so I'll look on it as a positive thing. Stopping smoking after using tobacco for 30+ years is bound to have all sorts of effects on the body while it sorts itself out: it's probably quite a shock to the system isn't it?

Sorry everyone for my incessant griping about teeth and wheezing etc - I'm not always such a miserable git, honest confused

magimedi Sat 17-May-14 10:56:15

Allergies can devolp almost over night. Didn't Poulter Goose have a strong reaction to wither PG or VG?

Moan & gripe as much as you want - we can always switch you off! grin

And I don't blame you moaning about teeth - I had to have an extraction last Monday & have been moaning & unable to wash up/cook/iron/hoover etc ever since!

magimedi Sat 17-May-14 10:56:51

either not wither - but maybe it did make her wither a bit!

PolterGoose Sat 17-May-14 14:11:21

PG gave me constant nosebleeds, am now 2 weeks on VG only and absolutely fine. I'm struggling with flavours though, Pure Vape's dark chocolate is the only one I like at the moment. Liberty Flights and TrueVape also do 100% VG liquids.

Allergictoironing Sat 17-May-14 14:37:23

Ever thought of mixing your own Polter? You can get the VG & nicotine in decent quantities, then just buy flavours you think you may fancy.

Raia Sat 17-May-14 15:11:43

Thanks magi grin

I will be exactly the same after my tooth extraction on Tuesday ... in fact I'll probably need at least three days in bed to get over it wink

A dear lovely friend gave me a vamo yesterday - it vapes much better than the MVP! Seems to give out more power so I can vape at 3 volts and get plenty of flavour and clouds. And it looks very sonic screwdriverish!

PolterGoose Sat 17-May-14 15:56:00

Allergic no, I really don't fancy mixing, but it's early days, I may one day smile

OohQuack Sat 17-May-14 17:36:07

Thats interesting polter, I had a couple of nose bleeds from nowhere the other day I wonder if thats to do with pg? I had a cold aswell. But thats made me think. I'll have to keep an eye out .

Nosebleeds are a fairly common symptom of stopping smoking regardless of method, it's because your capillaries are growing back.

Raia that's interesting. I have an MVP and a vamo and the same clearo on the MVP needs 3.7V (standard ego voltage) but only 3V on the vamo or it tastes burnt. I'm not sure this means the vamo is 'better' - one or other is displaying inaccurate voltage and I suspect it's the vamo (although it does look cool!)

PolterGoose Sat 17-May-14 19:52:05

Nosebleeds might be common but it was enough to stop me vaping that time as they were getting increasingly worse and more frequent, yet I haven't had any problems with pure VG.

SoleSource Sun 18-May-14 00:29:13

Vaping dekang grape, 16 mg, bland as fuck..

OohQuack Sun 18-May-14 00:39:37

Im not a grape fan, thought id love it but got one a few years ago and it was awful... might have been my set up though, might retry it now I have better stuffs.

FlockOfTwats Sun 18-May-14 11:49:59

I thought i'd like grape too but it wasn't to be.

I'm currently vaping smurfs blood. If you can remember the Wonka 'NERD' sweets, it tastes like them smile

SoleSource Sun 18-May-14 16:35:33

Mixed grape with spearmint, bit better.

Smurfs' blood? shock

FlockOfTwats Sun 18-May-14 20:08:13

Sole Its like the Wonka NERD sweets.

SoleSource Sun 18-May-14 20:26:14

Mmmmm love those grin

SoleSource Mon 19-May-14 14:12:21

Went to a totally wicked shop today. Bought sex on the beach, ice menthol vaing this now its ok Dekang is nicer, menthol xxx and cigby 's brand of blackcurrant, came to £22.34. All 10 ml each.

magimedi Mon 19-May-14 14:24:30

* Bought sex on the beach,*

shock grin

FlockOfTwats Mon 19-May-14 14:32:26

Totally wicked's sex on the beach is nice. I like their red cow too.

SoleSource Mon 19-May-14 16:09:12

LOL magi

I have tasted the juice of sex on the beach, tastes sweet grin

Cantabile Mon 19-May-14 18:07:10

I got bruises on my back and bum from sex on the beach.

I didn't say that grin

SoleSource Mon 19-May-14 19:30:46

LMAO Cantabile you hussy

magimedi Mon 19-May-14 19:39:27

The tone of this thread is going down!!

I blame it all on Sole - you hussy!! grin (Love that word!)

When I had sex on the beach (last century) I found sand in some strange places!

SoleSource Mon 19-May-14 20:20:22

;-0 grin

yes I got sand in strange places too and salt water is Not A Lubricant

Jux Mon 19-May-14 20:53:06

It is true that neither sand nor salt water are a girl's best friend under certain circumstances. wink

SoleSource Mon 19-May-14 22:54:48

i'm now vaping sex on the beach juice, bit gritty hmm

Raia Tue 20-May-14 11:29:10

It's me again griping about me teeth confused

I've just had two teeth out and a filling. I was determined not to cry but my eyes leaked after the extractions because I feel so ashamed of how bad I let my teeth get and how I ruined them by smoking. I will never, EVER touch a cigarette again. Or miss a dental check-up!

SoleSource Tue 20-May-14 15:27:43

Oh *raia sad

Loving this sex on the beach yummmmmmmmmm

OohQuack Tue 20-May-14 23:56:45

Im in a group on facebook called vapers uk trade and swap or something and theres one of many guys on there who runs a legitimate business making the most juiciest devine juice ive ever tried. Im practically in love with them. My favourites are death by bunny - a custardy strawberry. And monkberry -strawberry banana. They taste so good I want to eat my e-fag.

Raia don't worry about your teeth your on a new start now

SoleSource Wed 21-May-14 00:35:58

OohQuacki need to know exact fb name pleeease smile

Shonajay Wed 21-May-14 07:17:58

I ran out of my favourite triphammer refresher, and ordered 2x 30mls which came today, thank god, and a love hearts to try. I also ordered red Kola and bubblegum from bargain vapours they were really cheap, 100ml bottles too. Going on holiday in 3 weeks so had to stock up.

Shonajay Wed 21-May-14 07:21:56

Thanks for the website on travelling, will take a look at that. I ran out of refresher and was vaping banana blend mixed with vanilla, then I got unwell. Wonder if they're related? Have been in bed, conked out literally all day for three days, hot and cold and shivery. Thank god for electric blankets. Also my throat was sore but since triphammer stuff arrived, it's not sore.

There are a lot of nasty bugs around at the moment Shona. DH had flu last week and now has a streaming cold. Hope you feel better soon flowers

OohQuack Wed 21-May-14 08:30:39

Sole it's Uk Vape Trades... Buy, Sell, Swap the guy who makes the juice is called Paul Curtis. You'll see many ppl singing his praises on there.

On another note ive just won three new mouth bits (refuse to call them drip tips)

Raia Wed 21-May-14 10:46:59

That sounds like a horrible bug, get well soon Shona thanks

charlietangoteakettlebarbeque Wed 21-May-14 13:58:09

Hello just checking in. Saturday was a total fail, smoked like a chimney, was out and drank too much. Felt so ashamed and sick the next day (not just hangover!)

So I've been vaping since Sunday! Just sat here thinking how much better vaping is than the real thing. I don't stink. I can smoke indoors when I can't be arsed going in the garden. I'm saving money

Just need to keep it up!

magimedi Wed 21-May-14 14:20:28

Charlie - when I'd been vaping for a week I made & tried a roll up (my old cig of choice).

I lit it, took two puffs, ran to the sink, spitting & gagging & had to clean my teeth at least twice before my mouth felt OK again.

If you're getting on that well with vaping you'll be fine.

Make sure you have a spare battery though!

Allergictoironing Wed 21-May-14 14:23:12

Hiya Charlie. You may need to play a few tricks on yourself to get through this, I know I did! Took me months to stop dual fuelling sad.

I started out with little thinks like keeping the cigs in a completely different room to where I usually sit, so if I wanted a fag I would have to think about it, get up, & go to a different room rather than just light up without realising it. I then went on to short trips out (e.g. supermarket) leaving the fags at home & only taking the e-cig, then longer trips. Another thing I found useful to keep the fags down was to only take a very limited number anywhere I went, so I couldn't chain smoke - when you only have 3 fags on you to last 6 hours, you soon start to think first whether vaping is OK at that particular moment!

charlietangoteakettlebarbeque Wed 21-May-14 14:31:29

Thanks for the votes of confidence! Some good advice and tips. The prospect of not smoking again isn't as daunting anymore. I really hope my attitude doesn't change because right now I'm happy to never buy another packet of tobacco again.

It's just going out drinking with friends who all smoke that's going to be the real test. Will keep coming on here for support xx

magimedi Wed 21-May-14 14:35:14

If you go out on the wine - just vape away from the smokers. Many pubs are fine about people vaping inside & if not just go off to the loo for a vape. Don't go out with the smokers!

Must admit I really don't like the smell nowadays - unlike every time I gave up cold turkey.

charlietangoteakettlebarbeque Wed 21-May-14 14:46:06

It's so hard though, I love going outside with the smokers. That's the time for a good gossip! Going to have to change my mindset on that one. Or just try my best not to ask someone for a real cig. Stick to the vaping!

Raia Wed 21-May-14 16:52:52

Two months fag-free here and I still go out to smokers' corner for a gossip - I enjoy the smell of fresh smoke but don't feel tempted to have a real cig, weirdly? But yeah, if doing that tempts you to smoke then it's best avoided! Good luck Charlie smile

PolterGoose Wed 21-May-14 18:04:50

I've been going out with the smokers too, not even slightly tempted. I see vaping as a way of carrying on smoking in a safer cheaper way rather than as a way to give up smoking IYSWIM?

Raia Wed 21-May-14 18:21:38

That's how I think about it too Polter - somehow if I trick myself into thinking I'm still sort-of-smoking I don't get all the anxiety I used to get about "giving up" confused

Vaped in Starbucks today and no-one batted an eyelid!

Allergictoironing Wed 21-May-14 19:16:56

You could look on it not so much giving up as replacing with something sooo much healthier, less smelly, less anti-social etc. Finding the right flavour(s) will be a big help Charlie; if you find something that tastes nicer than tobacco to you then you will be enjoying THAT if you do go out with the smokers

Yes boozy nights out are a danger zone! I had a slip-up a month or so ago (was too embarrassed to post about it at the time blush) - I had gone out for impromptu drinks after work and hoovered my way through all the juice left in my clearo. To my credit, I did trawl the length of the high street looking for somewhere that sold liquid or even a decent cig-alike before I succumbed - nothing! The best thing on offer anywhere was a 6mg menthol cig-alike from a brand I had never heard of for nearly £10 so in the end I thought 'fuck it' and cadged a couple of rollies. Jeez the smell! envy

So, learning from my mistake, I always carry at least one spare battery and clearo and two small bottles of juice - one my normal juice and one the next strength up, just to be on the safe side.

If you are not safe around smokers for now then don't go out with them, you will get past that stage and be able to join them for a blather again soon enough.

FlockOfTwats Wed 21-May-14 22:12:40

Quack I'm on that group too.
I posted a picture the other day of a pint, a smirnoff ice, OHs 134 and my MVP2 in a pub garden grin

Bought two flavours in a local vape shop today, an american company (I'm told) called epic juice. I got Banilla and a candy flavoured one called 'Airheadz'. Both very nice. OH disaprooves but TBH he is so fussy and just annoys me. I think he's lying and loves them really.

FlockOfTwats Wed 21-May-14 22:14:41

Plenty I always carry extra juice and batteries if i'm going anywhere. I took OHs 134 out today and i thought it had died at the stables. Now considering buying an innokin EP to leave at the stables with a bottle of my gummybear liquid...

FlockOfTwats Wed 21-May-14 22:15:05

(Should read, except today, i take out spare bateries).

charlietangoteakettlebarbeque Wed 21-May-14 22:18:33

Thank you, yes that's a really good way of looking at it. I'm not giving up, just replacing! I need to get to a vaping shop ASAP and get me a shiny new kit with some yummy flavours. At the moment my sky cig has one cherry and one tobacco flavour left. The tobacco one is RANK. Love the cherry. Don't know what I'll do when the cherry runs out!

Raia Wed 21-May-14 22:36:37

I live in terror of my equipment failing or the juice running out - when I go on holiday I'll need an extra suitcase for the vaping stuff grin

magimedi Wed 21-May-14 22:46:52

When I go on holiday all my vaping kit goes hand luggage - imagine if it didn't turn up!!!!!!!!!!!

Allergictoironing Thu 22-May-14 06:46:02

I have a medium Ego case that lives in my handbag that contains a fully charged 1300 spare battery, a spare coil, cotton buds, and I put 3 full clearos with different flavours in just before going out (amazing what you can get into those little cases). I also have at least 1 full 10ml bottle of juice in my handbag. This is in addition to the battery with full clearo that goes in my pocket/hand. Paranoid about running out? Never!

Charlie you really do need to get a replacement for that Skycig - you will find that the improvement in vaping is so great that it will really help you with avoiding real fags. A cigalike helped me halve my fag use, a decent bit of kit helped me give up completely!

OohQuack Thu 22-May-14 07:01:30

Small world on the old internet Flock!

Woke up at five with my bedroom ceiling dripping onto the bed. Dropped my phone in a bucket of water and its not even 7 yet!! I reallllly wanted a fag, if there was any in the house id of had one. Sodding housing association are trying to shirk the responsibility of fixing it because im shared ownership.

In other news fast tech arrived so I have longer lasting batteries and a lanyard so I never lose my e-fag again :-D

charlietangoteakettlebarbeque Thu 22-May-14 14:59:03

Allergic - I know you are right. I need to get to the vape shop. The nearest one to me is over an hour away and 2 bus journeys. But I really have to speak to someone, as its very confusing. Will try to set aside a couple of hours this weekend, ask my mum to mind my DS and JUST GO!! How much should I budget? What is the average cost of getting set up?

Allergictoironing Thu 22-May-14 15:35:43

Well you need:
at least 2 decent capacity batteries
a charger
at least a couple of decent clearos
Some liquid

Very much depends on what your shop is like, but as an example this double starter kit from a cheap (but reputable) on-line shop is a bit under £30, so would be a bit more from a B & M shop. That's a particularly good value starter kit TBH, and most with the same content would cost nearer £40 even on line & maybe more. Liquid anything from £2.50 - £5 per 10ml & I'd get at least 2-3.

Sounds a lot to get properly set up, but that's under 7 packs of fags which is the typical weekly usage!

Oh that sounds a palaver charlie, I'd just buy online if I were you. The kit allergic linked to is very good value, or you could get two of these (two so you have two batteries). Lots of us are familiar with both of those style clearos so you'll get lots of help right here smile There are also loads of helpful videos on youtube.

You'll need some juice too. I buy mine from Premier ecigs at £2 a bottle.

charlietangoteakettlebarbeque Thu 22-May-14 19:58:37

so if I bought the kit that Allergic linked, I would have to get the juice seperately?? Sorry, what are clearos??

I am flummoxed. Really flummoxed. No matter how much I look and read about it, I just don't understand blush

OohQuack Thu 22-May-14 20:07:36

Just think of it as three bits. Your battery and the clearomiser ( the bit you put liquid in and screw on the battery) the clearomiser on allergics link (id recommend that one too) has a removable bottom bit that you unscrew to pour liquid into, the bit youve screwed off has the atomiser in it which you replace every so often, the atomiser is the bit that turns the liquid into vapour.

If I were you id buy about three diff flavours so you get a variety and your bound to like one, when you put it into the clearo allergic linked to its ready to go after about ten seconds

charlietangoteakettlebarbeque Thu 22-May-14 20:14:14

ah thank you Ooh!

So, let me get this straight.

1) Battery (I should have more than one)
2) Clearomiser (the part with the liquid and the part you actually suck?)
3) Liquids

can I ask - obviously the liquids are going to run out at some point. But I will not need to replace the clearomiser or the battery? And in regards to the liquid, how long do they last? I know thats a "how long is a paeice of string" type question, sorry. But I am worried that I will run out before I order more online, and then I will have to wait for it to be posted etc etc...as you cannot buy these in a tobbacconist (or can you?)

hope that makes sense

Yes you buy the juice separately.

The clearo, or clearomiser (sometimes called a tank) is the bit on top of the battery that you put the juice in.

In that kit, you get two batteries like these

two clearos like these

some spare atomiser heads like these that go inside the clearo (but you don't have to worry about that for a while)

and a usb charger.

Here's a youtube video that shows you how to use it (although I have only listened with the sound down so have no idea if she's talking sense). There are lots more videos on youtube if you search for 'evod'.

Honestly it becomes a lot less confusing once you have the thing in your hands smile

charlietangoteakettlebarbeque Thu 22-May-14 20:17:59

I've just realised there is a tobacconist in my area. Googled it and they do have a (very limited) e cig section:

www.thesmokingjacketshop.co.uk/electronic-cigarettes.html

would these be any good?

PolterGoose Thu 22-May-14 20:18:19

charlie I was really confused just like you are now, it took me ages before I was brave enough to post on a vaping thread because it all sounded so technical. But it really isn't, trust me, if I can do it anyone can wink

The starter kits come with a charger, a battery or 2 and clearomisers. You pour some liquid (sometimes called e-liquid or juice) into the clearomiser (clearo) and then screw the clearo into the battery. The battery powers a bit inside the clearo which heats up the liquid which you inhale. The clearo has wicks inside to draw the liquid into the coil (the heating up bit), sometimes the wicks are long and stringy (too coil) and sometimes they are short and stubby (bottom coil). That's my understanding anyway!

Clearo's are filled differently depending on type, if you're stuck post a picture of yours and someone will help.

Once you've bought a starter kit and fiddled around it really does start to make more sense smile

Be warned, buying vaping kit is very addictive, I started dabbling about 3 months ago and have been exclusively vaping for nearly 3 weeks now, I already have a range of clearo's, 6 batteries (but gave 2 to dp) and have just ordered another battery and more liquids to try. It is so much better than fag smoking though.

PolterGoose Thu 22-May-14 20:19:26

That should say:

long and stringy (top coil)

Allergictoironing Thu 22-May-14 20:20:34

OK the basics. There is a battery, a container to put the liquid in (clearo/tank), and the atomiser which is what heats the liquid to create the vapour.

With your Skycigs you had a battery and what's called a cartomiser or cartridge that contained the atomiser and the liquid in a sealed container. The EVOD is similar in that you have the battery and a clearomiser - the differences being that you can remove the bottom of the clearo (which is also the atomiser) to refill with liquid.

So rather than getting a whole sealed unit that's thrown away once the liquid is finished, you can easily refill it by unscrewing the bottom of the clearo. To make things even more economical, the bit you can unscrew is the atomiser so when that finally packs in as they all do then rather than buy a whole new clearo you just replace the atomiser part.

The battery should last about 6 months at least. The atomisers last a week or two but that kit comes with a pile of spares so you don't have to buy a whole new clearo each time. You should be fine equipment-wise for a few months if you get that.

Most people get through between 2 and 5 ml a day of juice. Most places are very fast delivery. It's worth having a nose round your local newsagents - lots of them have started selling a range of juice and a few bits of kit (usually not the best quality though).

Allergictoironing Thu 22-May-14 20:21:58

Oops x-post with Polter! Sorry!

PolterGoose Thu 22-May-14 20:22:01

Lots of cross posting there grin

PolterGoose Thu 22-May-14 20:23:30

Plenty how do people use that much juice? I'm using about 3ml a week shock

charlietangoteakettlebarbeque Thu 22-May-14 20:25:15

thank you all!! Its beginning to come together and make more sense now. The link I posted up thread - I imagine whats on sale there isn't any good as its not a whole kit (IYSWIM)

Allergictoironing Thu 22-May-14 20:26:42

Polter the very VERY rough estimate I've heard is that for a 20 a day smoker, typical usage is in the region of around 20ml per week.

Charlie that kit is pricey for what it is but if you want something right now, it will work fine. Everything is interchangeable so you can upgrade the clearo later and buy spare batteries somewhere cheaper and everything will fit. Go on youtube and search for 'CE4 clearomizer' and you will find info on how to fill and use it.

PolterGoose Thu 22-May-14 20:28:38

That's very expensive for what it is charlie, me and dp got our first kits from Vape Escape, not the cheapest but the site is nice and easy to navigate. Or try the ones linked already.

well that's between 2 and 5 ml Polter grin

The people who get through 5ml are the ones with huge dual micro coil dripping atomisers doing the Big Clouds Of Vapour on youtube or they work from home a lot like me

Oh misread - 3ml a week - you're a very light vaper smile

PolterGoose Thu 22-May-14 20:34:00

It's weird, I wasn't a light smoker, probably 30+ rollies a day, though rarely finished one in recent years as I'd started to dislike the taste/heat after about half way.

If I'm working in the office I go through about 1ml a day. If I'm at home it's more like 3ml.

What kit are you using and what strength juice?

PolterGoose Thu 22-May-14 20:44:44

I'm mostly swapping between an Evod battery and a rainbow twist battery with GS-H2s and 18mg juice. I've just ordered an I Taste VV 3.0 which looked like a bargain at Paradise Vape.

I'm on gs-h2s and 18mg too (mind you I have recoiled mine to 1.8 ohms so they will get through a bit more juice). I mostly use an mvp but have it set at 3.7 volts so same as an ego.

I used to smoke about half what you did! Maybe I just like vaping a bit too much grin

Allergictoironing Thu 22-May-14 20:53:37

Nah I think it's Polter who is vaping very lightly - I used to smoke 30 a day & as far as I can estimate (what with swapping flavours a lot) I'm probably on 20-25ml a week - 18mg, GS-H2s and usually Spinner/Ego C-twist.

Though I think I must be vaping a bit less than I was, as my batteries seem to be lasting longer between charges grin

magimedi Fri 23-May-14 14:48:37

I'm another one at home & I reckon to vape about 3ml per day as well.

Less if I am very busy.

OohQuack Fri 23-May-14 15:21:45

I noticed last night I had to fill my thing three times! !

Raia Fri 23-May-14 15:37:18

I vape about 3ml a day too (less if I'm out and about a lot)

srj52 Fri 23-May-14 16:23:00

Grrrr have just read the latest Daily Mail anti ecig nonsense. Article is about how sweet flavoured ecigs could lead kids to be hooked on nicotine. Same principle as alcopops and booze it seems. Apparently they are cheaper than real fags - which is news to me. Oddly the kid they interviewed is actually 18 which somewhat undermines their story. Oh and she didn't say she ever moved onto real fags.just Google ecigarettes and the online article is top of the list. Will now go for calming vape...

Allergictoironing Fri 23-May-14 16:37:14

To be fair they do cost considerably less than real fags once you've got the initial set-up. OK so probably between £50 & £75 for basic kit, then up to a tenner a week on liquid, but compare that to well over £50 every single week for an average smoker.

But I do agree the Daily Heil does seem to only report the "facts" they want to and ignore little things like 0% nicotine liquid being available, and just how many of these kids would be smoking if they weren't vaping....

srj52 Fri 23-May-14 17:39:39

I agree that they are much cheaper once you have bought the kit and are then buying juice etc but not many teenagers are going to be making that initial investment. But for the casual user a packet of 10 non premium brand fags are cheaper. The only things comparably cheap are the zero nicotine shisha pens. Can they be sold to under 18s? Agree that the kids buying these are those who would be buying fags anyway. I cringe at the memory of me and my friend scraping together 9 1/2 pence to buy 10 Park Drive when we were about 12. Oops that's showing my age! Lucky that my memories arent in 'old money'. And yes I realise that some of you won't even know what old money was!!!

Allergictoironing Fri 23-May-14 17:59:06

It was Players No. 6 for me & my friends grin.

TBH I think many teens these days have more disposable income than some adults me included

srj52 Fri 23-May-14 18:45:33

Oh dear I think I'm getting nostalgic about cigarette brands of the past! Sobranie Cocktails in my New Romantic days! Possibly one of the reasons its hard to give up - associations with good times past making you forget the stinky reality!

Allergictoironing Fri 23-May-14 19:33:28

Heh those were my brother's - I was cheap & used Rothman's Royals! But of course they never tasted as nice as some of the e-liquids I have these days smile, and the Vision Spinner out-blings ANY cigs even the pretty coloured ones.

OohQuack Fri 23-May-14 19:58:29

Is apple liquid supposed to taste so horrible? ! I have the 18mg liberty flights and a massicve 30ml hangsen waiting in my tin but this liberty flights one is nasty, id say more apple peal than apple

Oh that DM article is just so much bum gravy!

There is already a law in the pipelines banning the sale of ecigs to under 18s - I actually thought it had already come in. Oh well, it's on its way and I've heard nobody complaining about it.

There is no evidence at all that non-smoking kids or adults are using ecigs regularly.

They're pretty hard for non smokers to become addicted to because they don't deliver the sharp nicotine 'hit' you get from a cigarette. They're similar to NRT in that sense. Non-smokers don't become addicted to patches or gum when they are used in therapeutic trials for various conditions and even if a tiny few non-smokers did become addicted to ecigs, why would they then switch to something much more expensive that smells and tastes foul, turns you into a social pariah and will probably kill you? It's utter nonsense and there is completely no evidence it's happening. At all.

For those who haven't seen it yet, here is the wonderful Clive Bates demolishing the 'gateway effect' bullshit

Why flavours are important for vapers - handy hint - if you are getting a day where you are craving fags, try switching flavours frequently.

Meanwhile, 200,000 11-15 y/o start smoking *actual fags* each year in the UK.

There. I know I'm preaching to the converted here but I feel so much better for that rant smile Time to reinstall kitten block I think.

srj52 Fri 23-May-14 21:00:08

Well said Plenty! And thanks for the tip about switching flavours!

magimedi Sat 24-May-14 09:17:45

Players No 6 - that take me back!

Love bum gravy as an expression, that's a new one to me. grin

FlockOfTwats Sun 25-May-14 19:03:27

Srj Just had a read, Doesn't surprise me - They've been touting for stories about kids using e cigs for absolutely ages, offering big fees for stories.

OohQuack Mon 26-May-14 19:18:31

Just a quick Q... ive been on 18for about two weeks and im just trying a 24 I was sent... it's not going to ruin me and turn me back into a 24er is it?

magimedi Mon 26-May-14 22:34:30

No it won't ruin you at all! Takes more than that!!

If you like 24 & vape less with it than 18, just go for it.

Billoddiesbeard Wed 28-May-14 20:53:40

Hello lovely vapers! Can I join the chat? my mini pro tank 2 turned up this afternoon and I am currently vaping in front of the tv so much nicer than smoking in the back garden in the pouring rain

After a couple of mishaps getting started, dropped the Pyrex chamber smashing it on the kitchen floor sad. Luckily had bought a nice pink spare ...can't believe I'm already blinging my ecig! Then pouring the liquid straight through the replaced chamber on to to the work top. A quick look on you tube explained what I was doing wrong blush

I am hoping this will help me give up a 30 year cigarette habit and help get my BP down.

Good luck Billoddie! I have a mini protank 2 as well smile I replaced the drip tip on mine because I don't like metal - I got a nice pyrex one from fasttech. It's a lovely vape but tbh I can't be doing with it very often - too many bits to wash up.

What juice did you get?

Perihelion Thu 29-May-14 00:03:18

Good luck Billoddie. Am about 3 1/2 months fag free now. It's been so easy. Had a long hen night at the weekend, ending up in a housefull of smoking smokers and I wasn't tempted at all. In fact I was bothered by the smokey atmosphere.

There was an article on the BBC website the other day, saying that there's been less use of the smoking cessation services in Scotland, which they've put down to the rise of vaping.

Raia Thu 29-May-14 12:44:59

Hello billoddiesbeard and good luck! Another one who has kicked a 30+ year habit with ecigs here smile

Billoddiesbeard Thu 29-May-14 20:05:09

Well that's the first 24 + hours out of the way, although I am struggling a bit after eating my evening meal. (My normal time to relax with a cigarette)
I have been using menthol 12 mg liquid today and I think the nicotine level might be a little low so have some 18 mg on order.
Am loving the vape from the pro tank, looking forward to trying some of the more exotic flavours over the next few weeks. smile

Woohoo! flowers

srj52 Thu 29-May-14 21:35:04

Advice please! I have recently got a kanger evod which I really like but I'm wondering how I know when to change the coil? Does it stop working or taste funny? A really rookie question!

Raia Thu 29-May-14 22:18:31

Hi srj smile

When the coil starts wearing out you'll notice you're getting less satisfaction from your vape: less flavour, less vapour. I always know it's time for a new coil when I'm chain-vaping, like I'm having to struggle to get enough iyswim?

Allergictoironing Fri 30-May-14 08:25:19

Damn Slowtech - almost guaranteed to cause shopping accidents! Needed a couple of bits like replacement atomisers and wanted some of those "tasting" drip tip covers (so you can try others ecigs without swapping germs). Realised that I was just a few pounds short of the $20 point where you get free tracked postage. Surely you'll all see that I HAD to buy something else to make it up past the $20 mark didn't I? blush

Jux Fri 30-May-14 17:39:21

grin of course you did, Allergic! Anything else would have been unreasonable!

Good luck all you new vapers!

Interesting that those making use of smoking cessation services are decreasing. So ecigs are saving the NHS money already. Goody goody!

OohQuack Sat 31-May-14 00:09:15

So its pay day and the mvp v2 is on its way :-D good job really because three of the big batteries ive got have stopped working with any of my kangers but will work with dps gs-h2 s.... no idea why... but who cares mvps on it way and ive got to figure out how to set it up woooo

You probably need to very gently pull up the centre pins on the batteries and/or pull down the centre pins on the kangers (don't pull the pin out though - be very gentle).

ineedausername Sat 31-May-14 22:02:32

Hi! Can i join you guys?
Just got my kit today, trialing cherry but i have more flavors coming soon!
Going to try and not have any ciggies tomorrow, but will see how that goes lol!

Allergictoironing Sat 31-May-14 22:21:13

Count the cigarettes you don't have rather than the ones you do, that way you won't feel it's not working if you have a slip up grin.

For some people giving up completely on day 1 is easy, but for some we had to "dual fuel" for a while slowly cutting down the stinkies over time - it's the habit as much as the nicotine that makes it hard.

ineedausername Sun 01-Jun-14 15:03:32

Well I've had have a real ciggy at 8am and no more since then! Very good considering the kids were out all morning and me and OH had a BBQ! I'd normally have had about 7 or 8 by now....

Allergictoironing Sun 01-Jun-14 15:28:19

Couple of tricks that might help.

Try putting the real cigs somewhere you don't usually spend any time in, e.g. spare bedroom. That way you really have to think about whether you want a fag & won't just light up out of habit.

Another one is for every packet of cigs you DON'T buy, put all or part of the money aside in a jar or tin - this can now be "indulgence" money to be spent on shoes, meals out or holiday upgrades etc. Watching how quickly this money grows can be a very good incentive wink

ineedausername Sun 01-Jun-14 15:36:47

Well we were at the garage this morning, OH said "shall we buy some just incase?" "Nope I said, we are doing it properly"
So we don't have any ciggies in the house at all smile

brilliant, ineed, sounds like you're doing really well! Just keep counting the ones you don't smoke flowers

Allergictoironing Mon 02-Jun-14 07:08:00

Going to be an interesting day for me today. Having been out of work since before I changed smoking to vaping, and not one for going out on the razzle much, I've not been in a "social smoking" type environment since the swap.

However today I start a 2 week course that the dear old Jobcentre has put me on, so there will be official breaks where people go for a fag. I don't see them being happy about me vaping in the sessions, so I'll probably have to go outside with the smokers. I'm looking on this as an opportunity to evangelise!

Raia Mon 02-Jun-14 08:28:16

Good luck with the course Allergic brew

I predict lots of interest in your vaping from the smokers (if you do have to go outside to vape that is)!

Good luck Allergic! I hope you get genuine interest and not just unasked for opinions, which is all I seem to get lately. You can always vape in the loos

Shonajay Mon 02-Jun-14 10:35:55

Every time I've stopped before I've had cigs in the house just in case. I've been stopped 11 weeks now, and have never wanted one, but out of interest, had a puff on Saturday night. Just OMG! I felt sick, the taste, had to scrub my mouth out twice with toothpaste and then go to bed as I honestly thought I'd vomit.

I'd always planned on trying that, am really glad I did (personally, I'm NOT recommending it) but its underlined my resolve. And I also had to shower as I couldn't get the smell off me. Vomit.

Raia Mon 02-Jun-14 12:25:25

That's brilliant Shona. I haven't had a puff on a stinky since 19th March - I've wondered about trying it, but I still like the smell of fresh smoke so I'm scared I'll like it (even though I never crave a cigarette at all) confused

ineedausername Mon 02-Jun-14 14:15:32

Well I managed 24h, until someone crashed into me and my son in the car this morning sad needed to smoke to try and calm down a bit sad
I have liquids coming from the alchemists cupboard I'm looking forward to trying them once they are in

Raia Mon 02-Jun-14 15:36:52

Argh ineed - are you and ds okay?

ineedausername Mon 02-Jun-14 15:55:55

We are, I'm just all shake up and sadly sm

ineedausername Mon 02-Jun-14 15:56:07

Smoking sad

PolterGoose Mon 02-Jun-14 16:01:25

ineed how scary, hope you're both okay, be prepared to feel proper achey tomorrow flowers

I've done a month vaping grin

Allergictoironing Mon 02-Jun-14 18:38:35

I was pleasantly surprised by the number of vape sticks I saw there, both on the course and by other users of the community centre it was being run in. The few I spoke to about it are all currently dual fuelling, but I'm trying to encourage then to take the next step & have given a few tips on things to help that.

From my own point of view, yes I am mostly going outside to vape as some people can be funny about it and the last thing I want to do is put anyone's back up when this course is such a good networking opportunity. But I'm getting much more vaping time in than just about anyone else at the mo, because the early parts of the course I know pretty well so when others are taking 30 mins to read and understand a section of the manual then do the exercises, I'm done in 15 mins. trainer knows I do know this stuff, so she lets me slope off to the corridor when I've completed them wink

Shit ineed that's awful sad Hope you're OK. Don't feel bad about smoking, that's the least of your worries. You'll get back to where you were soon enough x

Allergic by the end of the fortnight they'll all be having shopping accidents on FT grin

ineedausername Wed 04-Jun-14 07:11:39

That's it, all the stinkys were smoked yesterday and back vaping. I've got coconut caramel with hazelnut honey from the alchemists cupboard and it's yum! Plus I have a new pink tank so I look much cooler now smile
And we got our hire car and it's a range rover evoque so that softened the blow a bit. Still don't know if the car was written off or not, waiting to hear from the garage.

Well done ineed, that's a very fast bounce back from smoking! Glad you're OK and fingers crossed for your car.

We have our first Q&A in the stop smoking section here. Linda Bauld was one of the 53 signatories of the recent letter to the WHO so it's especially brilliant that MN have invited her on smile

ineedausername Thu 05-Jun-14 13:41:28

I think i'd kinda gotten it out of my system lol! Entering my second cigarette free day, vaping away quite happily smile I've just convinced my friend to try vaping, she was struggling and saving to try hypnotherapy but i've showed her kit and all the funky flavours. She has already started ordering smile
Car is sadly a write off, we're so gutted sad It was an Audi RS6 sad We loved her. We didn't buy it brand new, but took us ages to find a good second hand one, did loads of work on it too. 0-60 in less that 5 seconds, twin turbo, v10, 570bhp.
We have an Evoque for a hire car and its like driving a slow tank....and it doesn't have an automatic boot!

My goodness, i think that was the most first world problem ever!!!! I'm honestly normal, i just loved that car!

Raia Thu 05-Jun-14 17:40:32

Sorry to hear about your car ineed - but glad you're back on the vape wagon!

I had a puff of a stinky today (one a friend was smoking: I don't have any in the house), just out of curiosity really. I wish I'd hated it a little more than I did if I'm honest, but the aftertaste really was vile! Not remotely tempted to start again after that little experiment.

ineedausername Thu 05-Jun-14 18:18:27

When I smoked the other day, I didn't completely hate it either!
But I did hate:
The cost
The smell
The fact it didn't taste like pudding!
My fingers stank

It's definitely a good sign if you had one and didn't rush out and buy a whole pack and start again smile

srj52 Sat 07-Jun-14 00:45:10

I was very excited to see a new vape shop had opened only five minutes walk from my house. I went in to check it out and the woman there was very friendly but the Hangsen eliquids were £6 for 10ml! I didn't need to buy any that day as I'd only just had a delivery from premier ecig - £2 for 10ml. I'd really like to support a local shop but £6 seems a bit steep. Is this a typical price for a shop?

Allergictoironing Sat 07-Jun-14 07:35:23

Bricks & mortar shops do have to charge a fair bit more than on-line shops as their costs are a LOT higher (rent, rates, insurances etc). They also have to stock a wide range of items (well they do if they are going to succeed!) and at the same time they can't buy in as much bulk as someone who specialises in one thing. It also means they can't have 2-3 different income streams as many of the home based shops can.

I think £6/10ml is a lot, even for B&M shops. Given you can get Hangsen online for £2, I wouldn't expect it to be more than £4 in a shop.

I went back to the greenwich shop this week with a friend who could talk the hind legs off a donkey we were in there over an hour! Friend carries around about 15 gs-h2s with different flavours and was getting the shop staff to try them all and telling them how much cheaper they were online. Every time a customer came in, friend was telling them how much cheaper they could get their kit on fasttech blush In the end I was so embarrassed I bought her 10ml (Hangsen with their own labels on it, £3.99/10ml) as she was clearly not going to buy anything. Oddly, she seemed to make firm friends with the staff and came away with a couple of juice swapsies grin The cafe next door are considering running vape cafe nights which would be good as they are a proper old fashioned cafe and not at all poncey.

On a serious note - <looks around sternly> - I can't believe none of you have any questions for the Q&A with Linda Bauld! I think it's a really positive thing, MNHQ inviting her on - she's sticking her neck out for us lot by signing the WHO letter and ASH's turnaround from their position on ecigs even a few months ago is really heartening. Why not ask something about the proposed Welsh ban or the effects of hospitals going smoke free (and getting rid of all the smoking shelters so people crowd around the doors) or the unintended (?) consequences of the TPD, or whether the best way of helping people quit is calling them smelly stupid and selfish or something about smoking and mental health, or vaping and pregnancy or the addictiveness of nicotine on its own or ...

Most of the vaping forums would jump at the chance of a Q&A like this. I sometimes think we're really spoilt on MN having the ear of so many influential people. Please make the most of it.

ineedausername Sat 07-Jun-14 21:07:14

done mine, they sound a bit crap though!

Those are great questions ineed smile

ineedausername Sat 07-Jun-14 21:14:53

thank you smile
Bought our new car today!! Lovely blue Range Rover, with a cream leather interior.
We have extra money now we aren't paying for a 30 a day habit between us lol!

Ooh congrats on the new car! I take it the old one was a write off?

ineedausername Sat 07-Jun-14 21:27:17

Yip sad but we got a good settlement figure and we had Gap insurance so aren't out of pocket! Yay!!

Allergictoironing Sat 07-Jun-14 22:28:15

My question done, but have spent ages trying to phrase it properly & not sure I have done it OK & got across what I meant - currently brain damaged from the course I'm on & spending most of today doing mock practice exam papers sad.

Great questions from Allergic and Cantabile smile

PolterGoose Wed 11-Jun-14 17:17:06

I'm nearly 6 weeks in, my first FastTech order arrived yesterday so have just tidied the 'Vaping Drawer', dp has been vaping since February but he's resisted 'shinyitis', I have not grin

I have been a tad evangelical blush

That drawer is alarmingly tidy and you still have space in it!

I like your 'soft mauves and reds palette' collection of ego batteries grin

Bloody well done on nearly 6 weeks flowers

PolterGoose Wed 11-Jun-14 20:44:33

grin it's not usually that tidy, and I've just ordered some TripHammer liquids to try as they're 50/50 PG/VG and I've noticed that standard PG based liquids are much tastier so I'm going to try a slow weaning and see if I can get past the PG issues.

I've really impressed myself to be honest, it's been so easy. I smoked for nearly 28 years and didn't fully give up even through pregnancy and breastfeeding. Vaping is amazing.

Raia Wed 11-Jun-14 22:01:13

Your vaping drawer puts mine to utter shame. What's the clear thing with compartments you are using to hold your bottles of juice?

PolterGoose Wed 11-Jun-14 22:23:29
magimedi Thu 12-Jun-14 12:27:14

Can you give me a link to the chat with Linda, please.

I've been away for for a couple of weeks & am trying to catch up!

magimedi Thu 12-Jun-14 12:32:27

Have seen the questions - but where are the answers??

Am I too late to join in?

ineedausername Thu 12-Jun-14 13:07:43

Here is my kit, I'm only one week in lol!
I don't think the Q&A has been done yet smile

The Q bit ended yesterday, they'll be back next wednesday with some A's. Not as satisfying as a webchat IMO.

Did you have a good holiday magi?

ineed, what are the things in the orange box at the front?

ineedausername Thu 12-Jun-14 13:25:52

It's sample flavours from smoke rainbow smile
Dirt cheap (60p) for 1ml, so it's enough to get a taste without spending a fortune smile

ineedausername Thu 12-Jun-14 21:34:57

ok, i bought these - www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-10x-NEW-Upgraded-GS-H2-Clearomiser-Atomizer-Atomiser-REBUILD-e-Shisha-EGO-EVOD-/201088350611?pt=UK_Collectables_Tobacciana_Smoking_LE&var=&hash=item2ed1ccb993

They work really well, really like them (probably more that the protank 2 mini lol!
Anyway, what coils will fit? The coils i got with my EVOD kit are just a bit too wide...

also, just ordered 5 new juices:
Vanilla Fudge
Egg Custard Tart
Mivvi Raspberry
Chocolate peanut butter cookie
and my usual coconut caramel and hazelnut honey

But don't tell my OH ;)

I think most of us love the gs-h2 grin

They're not posh, they're not the most fabulous vape in the universe but they just bloody work and they're completely uncomplicated and very sturdy. I'm 8 months in and they are still what I use most of the time, even though I have a drawer full of much posher stuff.

You can get replacement coil heads from them but I rebuild them myself so I have never bought any. Someone will be along shortly with a link, probably.

Allergictoironing Thu 12-Jun-14 22:06:26

Slowtech Fasttech sell them, $6.24 for a box of 10. These ones

ineedausername Thu 12-Jun-14 22:06:55

what exactly do you do to re-build these coils? just replace the stringy stuff??

You do this smile costs pennies and you can get something that works better than the standard coil.

ineedausername Thu 12-Jun-14 22:34:58

looks far too complicated smile Have ordered a load from Fasttech smile

Perihelion Sat 14-Jun-14 21:01:07

Nope, I hate gs-h2's grin

I do continue to realise that I am a slight oddity, not liking them, not being afflicted by shinyitis and only vaping one flavour......

Have done a swapsie with magimedi and her Sherlock.......and have decided that it's too tobacco like for me after 4 months of pretendy baccy RY4. I do think it will do the trick though, for a pal who is considering coming over to the vapeside wink

You're allowed to not like them perihelion grin Which are your favourites?

I just bought 10 more. I will have spare coil heads to offer soon, the coil housing doesn't wear out nearly as quickly as the plastic.

magimedi Sat 14-Jun-14 23:27:47

Perihelion - I have been vaping your RY4 all evening, and I am a happy bunny. It is the only other flavour that I could consider rather than Sherlock.

But it is far too tobacco like for me - it tastes so much more like cigs than Sherlock!!!

Can you let me know where you get your RY4 from as will order some & would also like to try RY5.

PS I am also not a shinyitis!

MaggieMcGill Sun 15-Jun-14 00:24:11

Magi Go you! Well done. I've just been over to Cork to visit my new nephew and last years summer clothes are a bit tight (gutted)

Cant I read on a forum once about TW, the poster was a Christian and said they were against their beliefs and they would never buy from them again. Didn't understand but I kinda thought he was meaning the devil looking logo grin

MaggieMcGill Sun 15-Jun-14 00:28:07

blush wrong tread!

MaggieMcGill Sun 15-Jun-14 00:54:37

magi, have you tried dark horse? I never got on with bacci flavours but I got this one for my mum and it was nice. tobacco but caramelly with a hint of honeycomb. ecig do it.

magimedi Sun 15-Jun-14 08:24:31

Dark horse is just too sweet for me, Maggie.

Perihelion Sun 15-Jun-14 12:24:16

Ha ha magi, mind you, I've just eaten a tatty scone, which I've declared to be too potatoey.....

I get the RY4 from premiere-cig.co.uk . It's very cheap, 30ml for £5. They also do RY5 and RY6 in their premier liquid range for 30l for £7, although, of course I've not tried them grin. Always been next day delivery too.

Plenty Kanger T2's. Replaceable top coil, easy to fill, no leaks, lovely vape.....Probably not the cheapest replacement heads at £1.50. Suits e as I'm not vaping lots of different flavours...I've only got 2 tanks I use.

Allergictoironing Sat 21-Jun-14 21:21:00

2 great things happened this week for me. Firstly I saw my gynae & told him that I've finally given up (he's been nagging me for 6 years). He was very pleased, and when he asked me how I'd managed I waved my vision spinner at him & eulogised e-cigs in general. He asked me loads of questions, and is a complete convert now to how good they are for giving up smoking grin.

Second thing is I have a cold and I'm generally a bit bunged up, a bit sniffly, sneezing a few times. That may not sound like much, but up until now if I've had a cold I've been very ill indeed - running a high temperature, unable to breathe through my nose, agonising sinus pain & sinus infections, headaches, sneezing every few minutes 24/7, unable to sleep, getting through well over a big box of tissues a day. This time I'm just mildly uncomfortable!

magimedi Sun 22-Jun-14 09:18:59

Well done for converting gynae!

Hope the cold gets better asap - I could not believe the first cold I had post quitting. It went within a week & I did not get a hacking cough & chest infection.

Allergictoironing Sun 22-Jun-14 09:32:30

Well that's another thing - I tend to get colds every month or so, but this is the first in over 4 months grin

magimedi Sun 22-Jun-14 11:22:16

Thinking about it, I reckon I've only had two colds since I gave up the stinkys - 21 months ago (as if you didn't know grin ).

Yes I've only had one cold in the last 8 months and no lingering cough - usually that goes on for weeks.

Allergic, that's brilliant about the gynae but the real questions are - was it a rainbow spinner and did he think it was pretty?

Allergictoironing Sun 22-Jun-14 19:29:37

Heh yes and yes Plenty, with a shiny yellow GS-H2 on top that matches that end of the spinner grin.

This particular gynae is a cervical cancer expert who appears to be VERY highly regarded at the hospital. He said he'd have a good look at the subject, and may well write a letter to the BMJ who seem to be anti for some reason.

Wow that's fantastic! BMA/BMJ are becoming quite isolated in their stance on ecigs. The more properly respectable medical people tell them they're wrong the better.

We've got DH's diabetes lifestyle appointment on wednesday, we may have a chance to do a bit of gentle evangelising there. In his GP appt, the dr said it was 'interesting' that he had cut down from 20 to 1 a day by using one. I'm secretly hoping the diabetes nurse will give him the oomph to ditch the last bedtime fag too.

Helloooo how is everybody this balmy friday night?

ineedausername Fri 27-Jun-14 21:09:45

lovely thanks smile How are you?
picked up our new car finally! after all the insurance bullsh*t!

Still vaping, i bought stinkies at the weekend (i was on a henny in Edinburgh) and i saw it like a treat.... Man they are disgusting!!! Back to vaping again smile
How are you? Did you see on my other thread that Grants Vanilla Custard is back on sale on monday?

magimedi Fri 27-Jun-14 22:35:52

I'm fine, thank you for asking.

It's my favourite fortnight of the year!

tennis Wimbledon! tennis

And I don't have to keep running outside for a stinky & missing great shots!

Murray to win, if you are a betting type. He's not my player of choice, but he is playing the best.

magimedi Fri 27-Jun-14 22:38:13

By 'choice' I do mean those that could leave their trainers under my bed!!

Murray's would be kicked out - but Juan Martine del Potro (not playing, owing to injury) would be a different matter.

Which leads me on to - having given up stinkys has done wonders for my libido!!

Oops, that was rude of me, asking how folks were and then buggering off blush

ineed, so pleased to hear about your car, is it lovely? Well done too on passing the finding-fags-nasty-after-a-break milestone!

magi, I don't follow the tennis (or any other sport - it's all just PE to me grin) but very pleased to hear about your libido!

We went to DH's diabetes appointment and discovered that he has really high BP as well sad Nurse asked him about smoking and he said he's on 2 a day but is planning to give up by the end of the year. Seems a looong time to me and I think he's just prolonging the agony but it's the first time I've ever heard him say he plans to stop smoking at all. He told her he was using an ecig and she said 'well if it's not working for you, make an appointment and we can prescribe some NRT - those things are not evidence based' and we both chorused 'no it's ok we'll just up the nicotine levels if it's difficult' grin

ineedausername Sat 28-Jun-14 18:52:36

Lol it was lovely, decided to go buy the new car seats and it all of a sudden started flashing and saying 'major Engine Failure'
Limped it all the way back to the garage we bought it from and they will have a look at it on Monday. Luckily they gave us a brand new one (ours is a few years old) until they figure out what's wrong.
This happened with out last car too. Had it 24h and the whole gear box thing failed and had to be replaced (by the place we bought it!)
I'm not into sports either, I watch Netflix and play the Sims instead!
Hahaha about the nurse and NRT, but so good he is actually thinking about quitting completely even if it is in 6 months smile
Have they given him anything for his BP?

Just had a dominoes with the kids. Bunch of fatties smile

God that's crap, I hope they sort it out for you (car not the dominoes).

He's not been prescribed anything yet, he has to go back to the Dr's for that (and hasn't made an appointment yet grrr). TBH I'm not sure I trust the reading. It was massively higher than the one he had a week previously and she took it over his shirt which I thought was a bit odd. We have ordered a home BP monitor so we can keep an eye. I wish he'd make the bloody doctor's appt though, I think he's gone into denial mode a bit.

Allergictoironing Sat 28-Jun-14 20:48:13

Asda do a home blood pressure kit for around a tenner grin.

Of the 6-8 health care professionals I've spoken to about vaping, only one has shown any doubt about it. And she was more concerned that I would still have a habit that I may want to give up one day - I pointed out that as it wasn't harming me & I enjoyed it, why should I?

I do like sport, but having a bit of overkill at the moment what with BBC showing Wimbledon 24/7 on both channels (yes I know it isn't really THAT much of the time but it feels like it) interspersed with World Cup football matches. Add in Channel 4 having racing on all afternoon.....

We got this one. It was important to us to get one that's clinically validated so the GP will trust our readings. Also we can upload our data to the PC and do nerdy graphs grin

9 months today! I could have done a baby in that time grin

Go me!

PolterGoose Wed 02-Jul-14 21:30:22

Well done Plenty grin

2 months here smile

OohQuack Wed 02-Jul-14 22:13:56

Hope this picture attaches properly, it's my 12mg stash that's arrived (still waiting on one delivery of vanilla and peach but they r late so don't make the group shot) we currently have at least 20 bottles of 18 & 24mg stuff to get through but I'm determined once it's gone we lower the nicotine again.

So the pic includes some flavours that I've seen ppl making a song n dance about so I hope they live upto the hype!

OohQuack Wed 02-Jul-14 22:16:47

Tut the photos upside down and tiny. Well a list of what I can remember; mothers milk, monkey jizz, snake oil, red astaire, banana yazoo strawberry milkshake, peaches and cream, I REALLY can't touch them til the others are gone sad

OohQuack Wed 02-Jul-14 22:18:54

Well done on 9m plenty!! Two n 'arf here.

PolterGoose Wed 02-Jul-14 22:21:27

Wow Quack shock that's quite a stash and a lot to look forward to smile

Got to ask ... Mother's milk?? What flavour is that? Won't somebody think of the children? grin

OohQuack Thu 03-Jul-14 00:26:21

It's like a creamy one as far as I can tell. Smells delish, it's made by suicide bunny some posh juice maker calls themselves an artiste have a Google

srj52 Thu 03-Jul-14 14:41:40

A doctor from the BMA was recently quoted in the paper saying that ecigs are obviously targeted at kids because of the fruity/sweetie flavours, because what 50 year old smoker could possibly want to vape flavours like peach! Hmm I thought, as I took a draw of caramel toffee and remembered my 50th birthday recently(ish). Yet another example of the complete lack of understanding of the whole vape issue by medical professionals.

ineedausername Thu 03-Jul-14 14:55:09

oh i know, its ridiculous! I have a box of sweet and dessert flavours and i'm 32 lol!

OohQuack Thu 03-Jul-14 23:52:23

I tend to avoid reading stuff on them at the min, I'm happy it's working for me and dp so, I don't want them interfering.

A few sellers have started selling their 20/30ml but sending them in separate 10ml bottles because, I assume, of the changes the law wants to bring in. It's annoying I wanted big bottles :-D

PolterGoose Mon 07-Jul-14 21:52:03

I've succumbed to shinyitis and couldn't decide what to buy so have a Cool Fire 1 and an MVP Shine (in lime green with bling) on the way grin

And a question for the GS-H2/bottom coil users: I've got various bottom coil clearo's and GS-H2s and various replacement atomiser thingys, they all seem to screw in the same but the post bit that goes into the inner sucky tube varies in length... does that matter? As long as it seals are they all ok to swap around?

OohQuack Mon 07-Jul-14 22:34:35

Yeah it matters, they won't screw back into the bit holding the liquid if you use the wrong one bitter experience

PolterGoose Mon 07-Jul-14 22:49:35

I've checked they physically fit, which they do, they just have different sticky up post bits confused I'll have a play around I think, I can't remember what came with what...

ineedausername Mon 07-Jul-14 23:05:27

i have the mvp in purple smile

Allergictoironing Tue 08-Jul-14 07:00:02

I've got replacement coils that have longer posts, no problem in using them.

However having bought GS-H2s from various different suppliers (I have a habit of dropping them & cracking the plastic) I have noticed that the whole base unit that holds the coil can vary a tiny bit in size. The coils can still be used in any of them, but the base unit CAN be clearo body specific.

The one issue I've found with some replacement coils is that sometimes the wick is very long (for a bottom coil clearo) and quite bushy & thick. I have to carefully thin it out with tweezers & sometimes trim it to prevent a slightly burnt taste.

PolterGoose Tue 08-Jul-14 07:42:48

Thank you, that's interesting about the variability of GS-H2s and the bushy wicks, my main juice is a bit of a wick killer and some only last a couple of days, others a week. I'm going to have to learn to re-wick I think.

Yesss! Do it Polter! grin it would be great to have someone to be geeky with about kanthal wire and ohms law.

PolterGoose Tue 08-Jul-14 08:49:23

grin

PolterGoose Tue 08-Jul-14 22:04:45

I've got my lovely Cool Fire 1, it's great, I may have even converted dp away from his little ego batteries. I might get him a Vamo from Fasttech...

OohQuack Fri 11-Jul-14 19:03:40

So, I'm a week off three months vaping n no fags, I've celebrating by allowing us to finally touch all the 12s I ordered in. Currently vaping monkey jizz from vaping king. It's bloody marvellous, creamy and bananary. I'm going to enjoy life as a 12mg-er I hear you get more flavour but less throat hit, so I'm using 1.8ohms to ease me in.

Yay Oohquack! You do know though that 1.8 ohms will be hotter than a standard coil though?

Polter, the CoolFire is the one that looks like a hand grenade isn't it?

OohQuack Fri 11-Jul-14 20:33:51

Yeah I've noticed they don't last as long before I need tochange and clean them, pain but iit's about finding what works isn't it. Do u think I could get a decent throat hit changing the settings on my mvp if I'm using a higher ohm coil?

You need Ohm's law, probably for the first time since O level physics <old gimmer>

This is from one of the old 'evangelical' threads on AIBU ...

Resistance ... it's all to do with Ohm's law - V=IxR or I=V/R or R=V/I

So what does that mean?

V is voltage. A standard eGo battery is 3.7V. This is what you can change with a variable voltage battery.

R is resistance. This the ohm value of your coil. Most seem to be either 2.4/2.5ish or 1.8 ohms.

I is current in amperes (I'm a bit vague about this one, it's closely related to watts, which you can change if you have a variable wattage battery). This is a measure of how hot your coil will get and so is the important number.

If you do a google image search for 'e-cig volts chart' you'll find lots of pretty coloured charts showing the best wattage to aim for (generally between 4 and 8ish watts) and various combinations of battery voltages and atomiser resistances for achieving that. As you will see, you can either use a low resistance and low voltage or a high resistance and high voltage to achieve pretty much the same result. Variable wattage batteries read the resistance of your atomiser and calculate the correct number of volts to achieve the desired wattage.

Different liquids will have their own 'sweet spot' and everyone will have their own personal preferences as well.

Basic guidelines:

If you're using a standard eGo battery (this will be 3.7V when fully charged) , you'll get more vapour from a 1.8ohm coil. Don't use anything below 1.3 ohms.

If you have a VV battery with any atomiser, crank it up a bit at a time until it starts to taste burnt, then back off a bit. That's the most vapour you'll get from it.

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If none of that makes sense, try this video

Throat hit depends mostly on PG/VG ratio in the juice (PG for flavour and throat hit, VG for big clouds of vapour). More power (watts) will give you more vapour but not necessarily more throat hit. Nicotine provides a bit of throat hit but not as much as PG.

PolterGoose Fri 11-Jul-14 21:09:52

It's this one Plenty, it feels lovely in the hand, but I'm struggling to find a juice that works well in it, need to play around a bit but I'm struggling with enjoying my juices right now confused despite that I have no desire to have a fag and would rather vape flavourless than have a stinky.

OohQuack Fri 11-Jul-14 21:32:45

That's a very helpful post thank you! So my mvp automatically chooses and sets the voltage it thinks is best for a coil? Then I change it till it's right for me?

I left my mvp on charge at my friends on Thurs so I'm stuck with my ego batteries but this is exciting news. Would u leave the voltage it's chosen and mess with the watts to find where u need to be or vice versa?

OohQuack Fri 11-Jul-14 21:34:05

With the mvp what I've been doing is looking at the ohms then checking the pretty grid guide thing u mentioned and setting the v and w around that

You don't need to set both volts and watts, it has two separate 'modes' which work independently of each other.

If you have it in variable watts mode, you choose the watts then the mvp reads your coil and delivers the right amount of volts to get that wattage.

If you have it in variable volts mode it doesn't work out anything for you, it just delivers however many volts you set it to.

e.g. say you have a 1.8 and a 2.4 ohm coil. If you set your mvp to 7 watts and change from one coil to the other, you will still get 7 watts and roughly the same amount of vapour from both. The mvp will deliver more volts to the 2.4 coil to compensate.

If you switch to variable voltage - say 3.9 volts, the 1.8 coil will deliver 8.45 watts but the 2.4 coil will only deliver 6.34 watts (values from a chart) and so will not get as hot or produce as much vapour.

OohQuack Sat 12-Jul-14 21:34:52

But when I look I can change both and it stays at what I've set on both v and w, the instructions are rubbish that come with it!

Today I've noticed two things; when it's hot weather liquids can leak and I've been blowing vapour out my nose which has lead to water droplets flying out my nose when I breath :-D

PolterGoose Sat 12-Jul-14 22:02:28

What clearo's are you using Quack? That's a bit worrying.

I've just had another load of gs-h2s from Klaudo on eBay, they'd pulled the listing but he emailed me and was lovely, very impressed.

I really need to stop buying stuff, but am very tempted by the Nature Vape mini pro having just watched how easy it is to re-wick with cotton wool grin

Allergictoironing Sat 12-Jul-14 22:22:30

They've pulled Klaudo AGAIN? He has so many "not for use with nicotine products" notices on every one of his listings, he's strictly within their rules (sigh).

Nope he's back up - everything there. Sorely tempted to get these in purple.....

ineedausername Sat 12-Jul-14 22:32:25

Klaudo is good! One of my Gs-h2 was stuck and I couldn't unscrew it. I emailed him and he was extremely apologetic and said he would put an extra in my next order smile

OohQuack Sat 12-Jul-14 23:03:17

Protank 2, protank 2 mini, 3 mini and normal evod. I think I must just not be using it right :/

ineedausername Sat 12-Jul-14 23:06:46

Yes I usually get mine from klaudo. Someone should tell him he's the darling of the MN vapers grin

Allergictoironing Sun 13-Jul-14 07:36:02

I reckon he should give me some freebies - I was the one who first found & linked to him & now look at the custom he's getting from MN! wink grin

OohQuack Sun 13-Jul-14 21:38:42

I firmly believe vaping is helping me with slimming world, I started sw 5 weeks ago n I really don't miss sweets n choc, I think it's because I'm getting the flavours I love from the liquids I use.

I'm sure you're right, Oohquack. I came across this the other day. I'm not sure what the 'appetite suppressant' in them is or whether a normal 0% nic ecig would be just as effective - mind you, nicotine is an appetite suppressant and also speeds up metabolism so I reckon you're already on the winning combination.

Allergictoironing Mon 14-Jul-14 08:22:57

I just had a look at that site Plenty - they launched in Dec 2013, so I'm pretty sure that if nothing else they got the idea from vapers & vaping.

I remember many years ago there were supposed appetite suppressant "pens" you would sniff which were fruit & minty flavours.

Their kit looks like a bog standard ego and clearos. The only difference I can see is that their juice contains Garcinia Cambogia. I did a bit of digging and found this page which suggests that it doesn't really work. Also that the usual dose is 500mg half an hour before meals. I can't see how you could take in that much by vaping it, or how it would have any of the supposed effects on digestion if you were not eating it.

I love this from their 'how it works' page -

The core of Vapor Diet™ is the unit or battery, which functions as the brain of the device. The battery entails more than a mere power source in this instance, containing many essential components. It includes an advanced smart chip, operating mode sensor and lithium ion battery cell. All of which are concealed within a sleek elegant aluminum tube.

Essentially, when you puff on the vapor unit, the operating mode button when pressed and held will subsequently trigger the microcomputer “smart chip,” which in turn will signal the lithium ion battery to release a charge to the atomizer.

It's a battery with a button on it grin

PolterGoose Mon 14-Jul-14 09:41:49

grin

Allergictoironing Mon 14-Jul-14 09:51:25

£70 for a basic starter kit????? shock

avoiretre Mon 14-Jul-14 09:52:10

Started vaping 3 or 4 weeks ago, even though I quit smoking 3 or 4 years ago. I was a difficult decision, but I missed nicotine and felt I would start smoking again one day anyway. Loving it so far, better than expected!

PolterGoose Mon 14-Jul-14 16:18:22

SHOW AND TELL

My MVP arrived, it's blingy and I love it. Topped with a protank 2 for now and vaping Chef's Vapour Connoisseur's Cut, which is supposed to be a tobacco based flavour and it's all smoky chocolatey vanilla caramel'ish. I've really gone off everything the last few days but this is delicious grin

<attention seeking over, leaves quietly in a plume of vapour>

ineedausername Mon 14-Jul-14 17:12:50

Can I join in? Mine is purple and sparkly smile

PolterGoose Mon 14-Jul-14 17:22:03

Lovely grin

What's the clearo like to use that came with it? It felt really plasticky and cheap to me compared to the heft of the MVP which was why I've used the protank.

I struggled to decide between purple and green, would have liked one in orange really...

Correction re liquid, it's 'Confectioner's Cut' and I highly recommend it.

ineedausername Mon 14-Jul-14 17:43:42

It feels really big and clunky to me as I normally use the cheap eBay Gs-h2's.
I have a mini protank 2 but everything tastes burnt in it sad
Waiting for my mini protank 3's to arrive smile

Very pretty! smile Mine's all well 'ard and scuffed up. Polter, was that from your FT order? If so it arrived very quickly!

avoire, good for you! One of the best things about vaping, for me, is feeling relapse-proof. My DMum had to stop smoking a few years ago and is so miserable, still misses it every day. I have thought of suggesting vaping to her but she doesn't really 'get' it - there are now 6 vapers in the family and she thinks we are all still smoking.

ineed - your burny protank could be one of two things - either it's getting too hot or the juice isn't getting through properly. What ohms is it reading and what settings are you using with it?

PolterGoose Mon 14-Jul-14 19:08:35

No, not from Fasttech, I needed it now