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MichelleMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 05-Aug-13 11:27:37

You may have seen we recently asked 100 MNers to put the new F&F school uniform range to the test - you can see what they thought here. F&F would now like to know what Mumsnetters look for when searching for the ideal school uniform for your DCs.

Here's what F&F say: "At F&F we're really proud of the value and quality of our products and have spent the last year really improving our schoolwear range. Our schoolwear offering, which is available online all year round, is designed to last. With features including Teflon fabric protector across skirts, trousers and pinafores, we believe that we've made it easier to get those stains out. Also, we've included adjustable waistbands to ensure a more comfortable fit for your children that will also help the items last that little bit longer as they grow. Finally, we've helped reduce ironing with our permanent pleats in skirts."

If you had the chance to design your own school uniform for your DCs what would it look like? What special features would you want? Extra long t-shirts or trousers for your tall children? Wrinkle free clothes to cut down on the ironing? What's the one thing that is missing from current school uniform ranges?

We'd also like to know what you think of the specific features of the new F&F school uniform range, watch the TV ad here.

~ How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?

~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?

~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?

Everyone who shares their thoughts with us will be entered into a prize draw to win £200 worth of e-vouchers for Tesco.

Thanks and good luck,

MNHQ

Melissakitkat Mon 05-Aug-13 11:32:52

~ How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform? I always look for these on school trousers so very important - would be great to have a way to easily turn up school trousers as they tend to wear away being scuffed across the ground.
~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not? Never sure - I don't go out of my way to buy them with Teflon - dd just gets a clean dress every day to wear.
~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?
I do like these - makes them easier to iron and looks smarter.

Melissakitkat Mon 05-Aug-13 11:38:43

For me I like to see pinafores for the older girls (dd is nearly 8 and still likes them) they need to be front zip opening so easy to get off & on for pe. Also don't make them so short! Dd ends up having to wear age 9-10 as I don't want her skirt so short! Nor does she - she wants to dress as a young girl not a teenager.

School coats in lovely bright colours - not black!

I buy all uniform in one go from m&s online as its easier. My local tesco never has the correct colours.

Stop selling me uniform at odd times of the year - I want to buy it just before the term starts!

Don't bother with school shoes as always get them from Clarks.

Have more cutesy bits on your clothes - embroidery, heart zips, pockets on dresses.

Hth mel x

Queen0fFeckingEverything Mon 05-Aug-13 11:43:25

I want...

- Adjustable waistbands!

- No gimmicks like Teflon coating

- Natural fibres

- I'd love to see Fairtrade cotton used as standard

- Real leather shoes with proper grip on the soles

CMOTDibbler Mon 05-Aug-13 11:54:24

Adjustable waistbands are an absolute must for me.
Longer shirts, shorts and trousers in an age range.
Non iron fabrics
wide fitting shoes and plimsoles
Name spaces on socks
Sizing on socks (drives me nuts sorting different navy socks out)

A decent stock online all year is really important.

BornToFolk Mon 05-Aug-13 12:05:49

~ How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?

Vital. I accidentally bought DS some shorts without an adjustable waist and they were too big. There were no belt loops so no way of making them smaller. I am hoping they'll fit next year!

~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?

I like them. DS had a couple of pairs of trousers with Teflon coating and one without and the one without have worn worse.

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?

Not helpful at all to me as I only have a son!

*~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?(

Definitely available online. I would love it if you could order uniform to be delivered with grocery shopping...probably not going to happen though.

I bought some of the 75p polo shirts for DS for next year but when they arrived I felt very guilty as firstly they were horribly over-packaged (each shirt in its own plastic sleeve) and secondly they were made in Bangladesh, so I suspect sweatshops. Does anyone know Tesco's policy on overseas labour?

I'd like to see 100% cotton shirts. DS can wear polo shirts but it would be nice to have the option of a proper shirt that isn't mostly polyester.

insanityscratching Mon 05-Aug-13 12:12:19

~ How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?
I would prefer that there was a range of clothes for the more petite children tbh. I have to tighten the waistbands to the smallest setting for dd which ruins the style because of the bunching and dd finds them really uncomfortable.

~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?
I would prefer them not to be Teflon coated because it goes shiny and the clothes are stiff. Dd has new clothes every day regardless so it doesn't matter if they are dirty and washing detergents are super effective on stains anyway. Not sure that it adds to longevity tbh the uniforms only have a limited life anyway because of growth and being cheap they are easy to replace.

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?
I like permanent pleats because I don't like ironing to be too lengthy.

~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?
I do order online for uniform purely because I don't like traipsing round the shops so long as the measurements are available and accurate then it makes it stress free.
For me the ideal uniform would be natural fibres, no teflon, stylish cuts, sold in waist and length sizes rather than age (like Trutex), Leather sturdy shoes (not ballet pumps style) and colours that hold in the wash. I don't want belts on trousers or silver gimmicks, I don't want skirts that are already short when I buy them, I'd like culottes and shorts for girls as they are more practical and I'd like zips as fastenings for dresses and polo shirts (used to get the polo shirts from BHS for that reason but can't get them now) or polo shirts that are open necked.

BlackeyedSusan Mon 05-Aug-13 12:48:05

i would like polo/white shirts that are resistant to dry wipe markers.

I would like cheap yellow gingham dresses

I would like pinafores and summer dresses that cover the knees

school coats that are cheap and with the reflective strips for both boys and girls. (the purple spotty ones they did 3 years go have been fabulous. warm, aand long lasting, washed and dried overnight without a dryer.)

longer shirts and polo shirts to cover dc's backs when playing in the sun/wind. ( red heads burn and spd children do not like draughts)

and yes to adjustable waistbands. another must for a skinny child with autism.

non of those silly metalhooks on boys trousers either, not until they are at least 8.

long grey socks. (spd again)

sizes on tights, socks and space to write their name. (not sewing in names to tights, don't have time)

fossil971 Mon 05-Aug-13 13:17:54

I have one slim boy and one extra-skinny one grin. All uniform has to do them both.

Adjustable waistbands are utterly essential and ideally "slim" fit or "long" fit (could be either) trousers so you don't just have gathered-in badly fitting trousers. Next do several ranges in "slim" "standard" and "plus" fit - kids come in all shapes and sizes. PE Shorts should also have good elastic or functional drawstrings.

Decent quality twill trouser fabric and construction - the Next ones at about £9 are brilliant. I've compared them with other trousers people have given us, (even M&S) which are much cheaper, thinner fabric with flimsy stitching and mean seams.

Actually I think 100% cotton shirts/sweatshirts are overrated as they tend to go stiff and faded (red uniform here) in the wash. I now buy 35%poly 65% cotton Fruit of the Loom ones which stay soft and keep their colour.

Fully Waterproof anoraks - British winters are often both cold AND wet.

Coats and bags in bright colours/with hi-vis bits for walking/cycling to school

Water bottles that don't leak or bags with an external bottle pocket

YY to socks with the size knitted in somehow PLEASE and a naming patch.

Trying on - what you should have is a nice child-friendly themed area with a fitting rooms and a few of every size, every item in the range. Then parents can find what fits their children and order it to be delivered to their home or collected another day. Saves the issue of having to stock the whole range in large quantities. (OK dreaming now!)

manfalou Mon 05-Aug-13 14:40:15

~ How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?

Very important My boy can only wear trousers with adjustable waistbands so its something we have to factor in when looking for clothing. He isn't at school yet but I know its something that my other mummy friends have issues with too.

~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?

My much younger brother has Teflon coated trousers and to be honest they have never made much of a difference to how they wear. If he falls they still tear and boys being boys they always have a mark on them somewhere... plus they're terrible to iron because of the shininess

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?

Prefer skirts without pleats but I can see where permanent pleats could be more beneficial when ironing.


~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?

I would definitely make it available online. Uniform doesn't last an entire year and can sometimes be hard to get hold of later in the year so having it available online is a great idea. I would always want to see the quality of it in a shop first though and have the option to order more online later.

manfalou Mon 05-Aug-13 14:47:55

Ideal School uniform:

For boys: I prefer grey trousers to black, which have a pleat down the front and an adjustable waist. Not based on age but on height instead. Short available for the summer month. Polo neck tshirts that are longer in length to last longer as the child grows. Vneck jumpers as the head hole is bigger and with no logo... they cost a fortune just to have the schools badge on. schools should give the option to provide badges free of charge so parents can put on their own clothes if desired.

For girls: Pinafores with a squared neck, knee length, grey. white polo neck tshirts. grey tights for winter, white frilly ankle socks for summer.

choccyp1g Mon 05-Aug-13 15:05:08

~ How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?
Yes, I like them, it allows for the obvious fact that people are not all shaped in the same proportions.

~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?

I think it helps a bit with washing the dirt off.

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts? Not relevant to me, but if I had a girl who had to wear pleats it would be essential.

~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?
On line is handy for the rest of the year.

I LOVE the "try-before-you-buy" rail at our big Tescos. (if people haven't seen them, it is a whole rail of every size of shirt and polo shirt with "try-before-you-buy" logos. Means you can try on without opening packs and it is a genius idea.

The one thing that I want most of all in clothes is non-iron. If we could have stain-proof against tomato sauce and mud/grass even better.

~ How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?

Very, anything that means they will last longer is a winner for me.

~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?

Again helpful with regard to stains not setting and coming out easily, not sure about adding to the longevity of the garment.

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?
Most important, I hate ironing pleats (with a passion)

~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?

Yes, I do most of my shopping online, a good sizing guide on the website is essential.

I'd like to mention the advert linked to above, with the 'mums' bit at the end.
It annoys me no end that in 2013 that mums are portrayed as the ones in sole charge of laundry, you use the term parents in the last question here, so why mums in the advert?

How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform? I tend to look for adjustable waists on all clothes for DD, but I would prefer a range of sizes that cater for the tall and slim (DD) and the short and stocky (DS).

What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not? It's something I look for. I'm more interested in whether the clothing washes well.

How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts? I like this, makes it easier for me.

If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not? I bought DD's uniform online this year and it was easier but it's always a bit of a gamble re: sizes.

TheFutureMrsB Mon 05-Aug-13 15:44:17

~ How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?

For primary school age I think adjustable waistbands are great as they are easier to get on and off, but for secondary school age my son thinks they are simply uncool! hmm.

~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?

My 6yr old gets dirty all the time and I do think the Teflon coated fabrics fare a lot better for him as they wash better, no stains stick to the fabric which in the long term means they last him better.

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?

I don't have any girls but I would say that this makes life easier for mums of girls as there's no need to spend an age ironing in the pleats after washing.

~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?

I like to go into the store as I find some clothes do fit my children and others do not, I do like online shopping though but I do often have to return trousers due to the fit.

DoItTooJulia Mon 05-Aug-13 15:47:22

I need elasticated waist bands, but struggle to find any.

Tbh, I want quality more than anything else. I hate uniform that looks terrible after a few washes.

Not bothered about Teflon either way.

I have never tried Tesco uniform, so maybe I should!

cornflakegirl Mon 05-Aug-13 16:41:17

Adjustable waistbands are very important.

Not really interested in Teflon coated trousers, as they don't tend to get (noticeably) stained. They get muddy, but that washes out easily. I would like trousers with reinforced knees, as I spend a lot of time mending holes.

I would like some sort of coating for polo shirts and sweatshirts that repels permanent marker pens (wishful thinking).

Online availability is a good plan. I shop online at Tesco, but I don't often go into the store. If I buy Tesco trousers again for DS this year, it will probably online with delivery to store so that I don't have a wasted trip. I do like the idea of a "try before you buy" rail too though - dragging DS shopping would be more appealing if I knew we could try all sizes and styles in one go.

WowOoo Mon 05-Aug-13 18:06:20

Adjustable waistbands are very important for me. Have a very tall son who is very skinny.

I'm not sure that I ever noticed if Teflon helps with longevity or prevents stains.
My sons trousers often have grass stains on them.

Permanent pleats in trousers certainly help.

Online is easier for me. The only problem is that I buy a range of sizes to try and have to return some. So free returns or returns to a branch is essential.

fossil971 Mon 05-Aug-13 18:38:49

Actually my ideal school uniform would be more sustainable: as few as possible items that are school-specific and ideally these to have a removable badge like blazer badges used to be. I send all our clothes to charity/recycling and what future use is there for a "Fossiltown Primary School" T shirt if nobody at Fossiltown wants it - it's just going to be insulation. Whereas plain red ones can just go to several local schools or even abroad.

GetKnitted Mon 05-Aug-13 21:24:09

If you had the chance to design your own school uniform for your DCs what would it look like? What special features would you want? Extra long t-shirts or trousers for your tall children? Wrinkle free clothes to cut down on the ironing? What's the one thing that is missing from current school uniform ranges?

It would be comfortable but not too cool (because they can tell the difference between really cool and trying too hard)
adjustable waistbands!! adjustable waistbands!! adjustable waistbands!!

~ How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?
I already wrote adjustable waistbands in my ideal uniform! My ds is slender and the clothes available in some shops seem to be geared for the larger children (no offence meant, I'm not so slender). We've some trousers that are 10cm too short but fall off at the hips.

~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?

Not sure about Teflon or not, I suppose it stops people burning the trousers by accident. Super duper hems would be better the hems (round the cuffs and ankles) are always first to go.

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?

Sorry, no girls smile

~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?

Personally, I like to feel the material, so I wouldn't buy online in september, maybe in easter after a sudden growth spurt?

sharond101 Mon 05-Aug-13 21:41:15

~ How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform? Definitely to fit my growing but lanky boy. Girls skirts need them too but may be made prettier by disguising it with a band or belt?

~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not? I like teflon and find stains don't persist as much but sometimes it gives the fabric a funny artificial feel which I do not like.

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts? Very helpful, a crease in boys trousers too please.

~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not? Yes make it online although I do like to try things on more than shop online.

i HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE Teflon with a passion!!!

ok, some people want it on their clothes, but other people really, really don't... it'd be quite nice if we had a choice!

I am not bothered about adjustable waistbands at all

If I was designing my ideal uniform I would have a good range in 100% cotton, or wool/cotton mix for trousers. I would make sure these were available in navy, not just grey and black

oh and can I also mention, trousers should come with some extra fabric like they always used to, for patching knees! or reinforced knees to start with! I would like that very much

stopandgo Mon 05-Aug-13 23:06:30

At the moment I mostly buy uniform from Next because they have adjustable waists, have slim fit sizes, I can order more sizes to try and return those that don't fit before I have to pay and they are reasonably priced.

I have bought tesco and asda previously but with two ds who don't like shopping as well as dd, home delivery for the bulk of uniform makes life easier and happier...

That said, it is still very hard to get clothes to fit dd who is tall and slim. Skirts have always been far too short if they fit at the waist as there is not enough increase in length as the sizes go up. She is now aged twelve and 160cm tall so the clothes are expecting curves where she doesn't have any yet! She is not really thin, just slim and many of her friends have the same problem. I think sizing needs sorted out and at the very least there is a demand for different trouser leg and skirt lengths, this would be at the very top of my ideal uniform list.

~ How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?
Essential, dd and ds2 and tall and slim so trousers and skirts simply do not stay up without them.

~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?
I think it does help with trousers, if faced with two similar items I would pick with Teflon in the hope they last longer.

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?
After one year buying pleats that weren't permanent, absolutely absolutely and definitely, and I would buy wider pleats only now, just in case ironing is needed!

~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?
Yes to online as we live quite far from department stores and the nearest supermarket is more accessible but it is still easier to order online especially for other sizes that haven't been in store.

If you had the chance to design your own school uniform for your DCs what would it look like? What special features would you want? Extra long t-shirts or trousers for your tall children? Wrinkle free clothes to cut down on the ironing? What's the one thing that is missing from current school uniform ranges?
I'd just want it to be comfortable and long lasting. I'd like the polo shirts and tights to not shrink.

How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?
Very, very important. The only school trousers and skirts that fit both my dc have adjustable waists. Dd1 generally prefers to wear a dress. I think this is because there's no bulk around her waist. She will wear a skirt too though. Dd2 likes trousers so we need adjustable waists for her.

What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?
I'm not sure it makes any difference tbh. I can feel there's a difference in the fabric but I tend to think it just makes them feel a bit stiff. I find my children outgrow things (height-wise usually) before they get damaged so it doesn't really help the longevity. I've used DD1's old stuff for DD2 and it's still going strong, I'm not sure any of them are teflon coated.

How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?
It's helpful as long as the length is right. It's a bit of a pain if you want to adjust the length. Dd2 is quite short for her age so I could usually do with adjusting them. That said it does reduce the need to be really fussy with the ironing.

If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?
Yes, absolutely. I'd make it available online. However, it would have to be easy (and free!) to send stuff back and delivery would have to be in a reasonable time frame. IMO it would be necessary to ensure consistent sizing between items across the range (e.g. a 5yrs in a skirt has the same waist as a 5yrs in trousers) so that if I could be confident in ordering more uniform at a later date.

skyeskyeskye Mon 05-Aug-13 23:31:27

Yes to pleats and adjustable waistbands. Also longer lengths in skirts, nobody likes to see a small child with a dress skimming her bottom.

I buy everything online so yes to that. why traipse around when you can get it online.

A good range of coats for winter would be good along with decent leather boots. Tights that are long enough would be good too. Always have to buy bigger to get them long enough.

Paint resistant summer dresses would be good too!

nooka Mon 05-Aug-13 23:47:53

My children are at a no uniform school, and consequently wear whatever they like and are comfortable in which is great. I much prefer this arrangement. So my views come from when they were in uniform, and my own experiences.

dd and ds are both tall and slim (ds is super skinny) so adjustable waistbands were essential, although really I prefer clothes sold in waist and height measurement instead of arbitrary ages (dd has never worn her 'age' in clothes). The trouble is that clothes are being made with much bigger fittings which means that he would have great bunches at the waist which could be quite uncomfortable.

Not sure about Teflon, as stains were never much of a problem, I'd much rather the material was sturdier to reduce rips. School uniform material tends to be really quite nasty in my opinion. ds generally wears chino or rugby trousers which are 100% cotton and wear very well.

I don't think I had pleated skirts for dd (primary age only), my main concern about skirts for girls is that they should be made to fit a variety of shapes. I remember my uniform always looked terrible as there was only one permitted style and it really didn't suit my shape.

Online is great for replacements, but a try before you buy rail with every fitting available is even better.

ritagcabrita Tue 06-Aug-13 00:08:59

How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?
I only buy products witth adjustable waistband because I want to be sure the uniform fits confortably on my daughter's waist.

~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?
Yes, I think Teflon fabrics are a god sent to protect the school uniforms and save money on wash loads and time on dealing with stubborn stains.

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?
It makes it easier for the skirts to be neat to be worn everyday for school.

~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?
Yes, I would make it available online as it is quick and easier to order clothing online than to go to the shops and try the items on the spot.

steppemum Tue 06-Aug-13 00:33:47

What do I look for in uniform?

I have one ds (aged 10) and 2 dds, (aged 8 and 5) with very different tastes (dd1 only wears trousers, dd2 loves twirly skirts)

for boys:
tough indestructible trousers. Teflon coating works, and trousers wash and wear and don't need ironing.
adjustable waists are good, as ds is thin
but he wears his trousers round his hips/bum as a pre-teen trying to look cool. This means the trousers need to be 6'' shorter hmm so I have to take them up. This year we have found trousers with elastic, so comfy round the hips and adjustable (from Asda)

white shirts - need to wash, wear, do not deform, do not shrink (and I don't tumble dry) 100% cotton

for girls:
a variety or styles to cover fussy differing tastes
soft stretchy trousers are favourites
Two bug bears
1. Please please put pockets in girls trousers.
2. Please make skirts properly knee length, they grow in height not width during the year, so the skirts get short enough anyway.

please make proper girls shorts, not culottes for summer (asda now have proper tailored girls shorts)
culottes are always wrong shape, they have pleats which don't hang properly because of the shorts part.
If not culottes, maybe a skort?

please make summer dresses 100% cotton

dd1 would love to have your proper shirts instead of polo shirts, but they are not 100% cotton, so sweaty and smelly and I have said no.

Girls trousers don't seem to have the adjustable waists, especially the stretchy ones.

And a final random one - we had one polo shirt for the summer which was sleeveless. It was lovely and dd wore it to death. I have never found another one. Sleeveless 100% cotton polo with tailored shorts is a nice alternative to dresses for those who won't wear a dress.

steppemum Tue 06-Aug-13 00:36:01

oh forgot
permanent pleats? yes. so i can wash and hang, not iron
on-line? Not bothered, need to try it on

ldt87 Tue 06-Aug-13 00:57:38

I will only buy uniform with adjustable waistbands because my oldest is a beanpole and needs long legs and a tiny waist and my youngest is average build.
If a shop had no uniform available with adjustable waists I would go elsewhere.

I find Teflon coating neither here nor there and have not seen any evidence that it makes the clothes last longer.

I like the idea of permanent pleats in skirts, as I have ironing pleats and this would make a horrible job easier.

If I were manufacturing school uniform I would definitely sell it online, I think that's how most people shop now and not being available online would make people buy from another shop

Overall what I want from school uniform is for it to still look smart and couple of months into the school year. Navy cardigans and jumpers always seem to fade and get holds around the neckline and wrists, trouser hems come down too easily and polo shirts lose shape and shrink. The reasonably priced uniform I have tried has not overly impressed me and I'll be trying to shop around a bit this year, to get specific items from specific shops. There are some stores in haven't tried much of such as sainsburys and tesco so may have a look there.

One of my boys is very tall and slim for his age so adjustable trousers are vital for him. It would be great if there were polo shirts that were longer to suit a tall child as well. In an ideal world, I would love school polo shirts to have some sort of stain resistant guard so stains don't penetrate the fabric. I get sick of my kids coming home from school covered in pen, paint and with their dinner down their front (none of which ever seems to come out). Also with boys trousers, it would be great if the knee could be reinforced somehow to make it harder to go through to a hole so easy.

Kirst16 Tue 06-Aug-13 07:41:21

If you had the chance to design your own school uniform for your DCs what would it look like? What special features would you want? Crease free and/or easy iron, anything which cuts down effort with frequent laundering. Preference for polo shirts which don't shrink during washing and/or tumble drying. A zippable pocket in school trousers would also be handy to keep tuck shop money safe, especially for the younger ones.

How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform? Adjustable waist bands are a must as it can shrink / expand waistline as needed. Nothing worse than having my younger son constantly hitching his trousers up - he's quite slim.

What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not? Teflon coating is great as it helps minimise the effects of spills and stains. I do think this helps maintain the longevity of the school uniform.

How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts? N/a - I have two boys so feel unable to comment.

If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not? Yes I do believe having items available for purchase on line is a must. But it is equally important to have samples available for trying on in store, as you never know what some manufacturers sizes are like i.e. whether they come up big or small - this is especially important when purchasing for the 1st time.

Bert2e Tue 06-Aug-13 08:04:40

Adjustable waists are a must for my skinny duo - but I like a slim fit as well as adjustability as many are too bulky around the waist when they are pulled in to fit. My holy grail would be polo shirts that are resistant to dry wipe markers (would Teflon do that?) as ds2 has ruined most of his shirts with markers and it doesn't wash out of even the M&S stain resist shirts. For winter coats I want no hoods - they always get pulled in the playground and ripped. A zip off version would do at a pinch so I could take it off myself and make them wear a hat if it's cold.

If I was designing a school uniform I would:
-Get the uniform requirements of local schools to make sure it adhered to their rules.
-sell uniform in all sizes from July to October at minimum (and especially school trousers in ages 3-11 just after the start of term when they inevitably tear the knees out!)
-make polo shirts/cotton shirts that do not stain on contact with:
Berol marker pens
Biros
Suncream
Tomato based food
Gravy

-I would make school trousers/skirts adjustable at the waist without looking like a drawstring sack. Perhaps a concealed panel?
- I would make trousers with adjustable length, as boys can grow like weeds, and bring able to take up/let down even two inches of trouser leg in a term can mean the difference between normal looking clothes and shredded hems or ankle swingers.

~ How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?

We can't do without adjustable waistbands. My DSD is tall, but thin. If you went by waist measurements only, she would still squeeze into a size 5-6 when the rest of her is actually a 7-8.

~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?

Haven't noticed a difference; DSD's uniform is grey and black and hides the dirt, the white polo shirts are just put on a hot wash and can be covered with the school sweatshirt.

I would actually prefer trouser fabrics that stand up to a kiddo skinning her knees on asphalt. DSD wrecked two brand new pairs at the end of last school year with plain old playing around.

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?

They are only helpful if the permanent pleats come out of the dryer unwrinkled. I have better things to do than iron.

~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?

Yes, I would make it available online. The stores don't always have the size you need - sometimes, your kid's size is the one that sells out quickest - so having click and collect available is handy. Sometimes, I can get cashback deals as well, which actually encourages me to buy something in the first place rather than go without.

And TBH, if I could design my own uniform, I would allow children to attend school in:

1) Jeans
2) Trainers

The jeans go a little further when standing up to skinned knees on asphalt. When they are made with thicker fabric, they are also a lot warmer to wear in winter. Not such a big deal with a little girl - put a pair of tights underneath - but try convincing a boy to do that.

The trainers are because plimsolls and canvas maryjanes are flimsy, unsupportive and really unfit for athletics. I think it is especially unfair that black non-marking trainers are marketed to primary-aged boys for classroom and gym, but not the girls.

IMO. But then, I am a heathen who went through primary, secondary and then higher ed without any uniform policy. grin

Babycarmen Tue 06-Aug-13 10:58:17

~ How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?
Very! I have too skinny girls and the waists are ALWAYS far too big, especially with Tesco and Asda actually. I think it would be handy to have a 'slim' range.

~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?
I'm not really sure to be honest, Its a good idea if it works but I haven't really noticed much difference.

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?
It is very helpful, I wouldn't be ironing them in myself!

~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?
Yes I would, if the delivery was reasonable. I tried buying uniform online this year but its hopeless, everywhere is always out of stock.

StressedandFrazzled Tue 06-Aug-13 11:59:26

I would like adjustable waistbands as standard. Natural cotton for shirts, cotton socks, thicker winter shirts also made of natural fibres. Slim-fit on every type of trousers, slim skirts, winter-style skirts for when it's very cold and everything available online.

QueenandKingMum Tue 06-Aug-13 12:05:48

~ How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?
Hugely important for us. My children are taller and so the trousers/shorts/skirts we need to get are always in the age group or 2x age group above their actual one. Therefore the waists are massively too big, we only buy adjustable ones.

~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?
Teflon does help with the stains but not sure on the longevity, as they either outgrow them too quickly or have holes in them (the boy!)

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts? Important but not hugely. My daughters school allow different types.

~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not? Oh absolutely available online. It's important for those too busy or stores that sell out.

gazzalw Tue 06-Aug-13 12:22:58

~ How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?

As the parent of two very slim children adjustable waistbands are essential and we will not even consider school trousers/skirts without them!

~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?

I'm not entirely convinced that the Teflon makes any difference.But then we haven't got children who are very hard-wearing on their clothes...including school uniforms...

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?

DD is not overly keen on pleated skirts. DW thinks that totally pleated ones for primary aged girls are ridiculous! I'm not even sure they look particularly smart - certainly not if the pleats have 'fallen out'!

~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?

I think that school uniform brands have to be seen, touched and checked against one's child really. It is brilliant to think that they are available online but unless you show the same items modelled by thin, average and bigger children you will have no idea of knowing how likely the item is to fit your child....Also, it's just extra hassle if the items bought online don't fit and have to be returned.

ArthurCucumber Tue 06-Aug-13 15:40:24

Having just got back from kitting out my 11 yr old for secondary:

- I wish there were longer length shirts/blouses for children who are tall and slim for their age! For the legs we have adjustable waistbands, so that way skirts/trousers can be long enough but still narrow enough at the waist. But I've just had to buy shirts for my dd that are too short in the arm and don't tuck in well enough at the waistband, because the larger size was just too wide at the neck.

- See above - adjustable waistbands are important, and should go up to higher ages as well. At my dd's new secondary, the skirt has to touch the knee. But I had to choose between long enough but too wide at the waist, and narrow enough but too short, because there were no adjustable waistbands available by that age.
It's also important to have a sensitive skin range that is still good quality.

~ I don't like the feel of Teflon coated clothes, and don't find it affects stains/longevity that much.

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?
We have the opposite problem - dd's secondary skirt is designed with no pleats at all, and would be impossible to run in. Younger secondary girls may still want to play/run outside. At primary level, it would make ironing easier.

~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?
I prefer to try on uniform in person, as it varies so much in quality, etc., and children also vary. But it would be good to have online availability mid-year, as some shops are low in stock except in August.

jmcglynn Tue 06-Aug-13 16:19:40

How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?

Yes definitely!! Not all children are the same shape and size and it can be a nightmare finding trousers that are both long enough and with the right waist size.

~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?

This is my first year of buying school uniforms so I'm not able to give a definitive answer on this just yet!

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?

I prefer skirts with pleats, and would never have the time to iron them in myself, so this is very helpful

~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?

Definitely make it available online. Parents can be busy enough without having to traipse to the shops to buy uniform. It would be especially useful outside of the summer holidays. I can't say I've seen that many pieces of uniform available generally throughout the year, which I imagine could make it difficult if you need to replace something and would prefer it to match other items you've bought from F&F.

coppertop Tue 06-Aug-13 17:41:07

1) If you had the chance to design your own school uniform for your DCs what would it look like? What special features would you want?

Longer skirts would be a start. It's currently a choice between knicker-skimmers or wearing a size bigger and running the risk of them falling down every time dd lets go of the waistband.

Better fasteners on primary age trousers. Ds' have those clip fasteners on them. Great for avoiding having to fiddle with buttons, but they have a tendency to eventually fall off and be difficult to fix or replace.

School shoes for girls that are suitable for the winter. They usually leave the top of dd's foot uncovered, so there's no protection if she gets caught in the rain.

Boys' shoes always seem to be much more practical, with chunkier soles and big velcro straps or laces. The girls' shoes tend to have thin soles that wear out quickly are usually a choice between a flimsy strap across the top, or slip-on shoes.

Polo shirts that don't shrink in the wash (M&S is the main culprit for this).

2) How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?

Very useful for long and slim children (see above comment about skirts)

3)What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?

Doesn't make much difference tbh.

4) How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?

Again, it doesn't make much difference.

5) If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?

It only makes life easier if you're sure about which size your child needs. Otherwise I'd rather be able to let my children try them on in the shop first.

For shirts in multi-packs it would help if there were 'tester' shirts out on hangers for customers to look at.

littlemonkeychops Tue 06-Aug-13 19:10:29

I don't have school-age children yet, but my sister (two boys) wants hardwearing stuff. She looks for a balance between readonable cost but not so cheap that they fall apart in the wash. Teflon coating sounds like a gimmick to me.

Oh and when DC are older i'll definitely order online!

GwenCooper81 Tue 06-Aug-13 20:37:44

Adjustable waists, every time, both of my children need the next size up height wise but they are skinny on the waist, adjustable stuff adds lifespan.

Teflon, nope, too shiny and too hard, both have clean on everyday so Teflon coated is pointless in my opinion.

Longer length skirts and pinafore dresses. Larger sizes in pinafore, my 8 year old ( size 9-10) would like to wear them but styles/length are limited.

Permanent pleats, my personal opinion, I don't like them, I find it makes no difference to ironing and after a while they look tatty as the pleats fall -this could be my skilful ironing though-

Girls shorts should be widely available, Asda sell tailored ones and they are lovely. Cullottes are fine, but neither of mine like the pleated style and as someone above mentioned, the pleats are often out of line due to the 'shorts' part.

Tights need to be longer and true to size.

My children where Purple at their school. It's almost impossible to buy. Individual stores need to tailor their uniform to local schools.

Uniform ( a wide selection!) needs to be on sale year round. While we're on the subject.. swimming costumes and summer stuff needs to be on sale, -in a heatwave in August-, we don't need winter coats and boots just yet!.

I prefer shopping in store, but the online option is also a great idea.

Hopezibah Tue 06-Aug-13 21:34:34

Love the actual advert and describing the kids as artists etc. The Teflon protect is important as kids and mess just seem to attract like magnets so anything that helps keep clothes clean/stain free is a bonus.

The permanent pleats are also a good idea but not essential for me.

~ How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?

My son has a teeny tiny waist so yes - adjustable waistbands really useful. (especially when he first started school I had to find age 3 trousers as his waist was so tiny).

~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?

yes it helps minimise stains. Not sure about the longevity.

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts? helpful but not essential.

~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?

Yes - for my son's initial 'big' school uniform order we got it all online and then topped up with extra bits in store throughout the year as necessary. BUT important to have good range of sizes and have all items in STOCK for online orders - otherwise more hassle to only be able to get a few things online.

Also an easy returns policy is useful so if we are unsure of size, we can buy several sizes to try and then return the incorrect sizes.

kla73 Tue 06-Aug-13 21:41:09

Adjustable waists are essential.

Skirt and dress lengths could do with being longer. I often have to get older than their age but find that they are too big in on the waist or across the chest on dresses.

Non iron and easy care also important. Don't mind teflon coated but it is not essential.

Not keen on very fussy designs - keep it simple.

WildThongsHeartString Tue 06-Aug-13 22:11:23

Adjustable waistbands: yes, yes! Invaluable. I wish we could get them on adult clothes.
Teflon coating: not so much, my DS still gets holes, wear and grass stains on the knees so I would still wash them each day anyway.
Permanent pleats in skirts: can't comment as I don't have a dd, but permanent creases in the trousers are great.
Online: definitely. I do most of my shopping online anyway and it's great to be able to avoid the busy children's departments at this time of year.

dahville Tue 06-Aug-13 23:16:46

~ How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?
Very important to ensure the trousers can be given the best fit possible and last as long as possible. Yes, they would be part of the ideal school uniform.

~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?
It's a great idea as long as it doesn't affect the look of the fabric, i.e. making it look cheap or shiny.

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?
Quite helpful but as I have sons it doesn't apply so much!

~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?
Of course have it on-line - it allows parents more choice in how to shop.

Elainey1609 Tue 06-Aug-13 23:23:25

Adjustable waistbands are very important
I want them durable but hate the Teflon it makes the clothes rough and scratchy
Permenant pleats are a must
Would like it more available online
Would like pinafores for older children and more embellishments on clothes

NomDeOrdinateur Wed 07-Aug-13 00:38:59

How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?

Very important - yes.

What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?

I don't know - I find that a good polycotton is best for minimising stains on trousers, skirts etc (not so good for top half, as gets sweaty).

How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?

Very!

If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not

Yes, but it would need cm/inch measurements for waistband, length, rise, arm length - the sizes are too vague otherwise.

Very deep pockets, easy-to-do-up top buttons for school shirts, 100% cotton shirts, polos and jumpers are all important IMO.

Letitsnow9 Wed 07-Aug-13 13:03:18

Why can't no wrinkle/no iron actually not need ironing and look smart!

RiaBexleyGreenwichLE Wed 07-Aug-13 13:54:05

~ How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?

Yes, very important! DS is larger than your average child so having some kind of system for being able to turn up trousers so I can buy him a bigger size and turn up the bottoms so they're not dragging on the floor would be good too!

~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?

Yes, essential! Messy DS is always spilling stuff on himself, white shirts never stay white for long with him!

If you could create non-iron uniforms too, that would be much appreciated!

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?

DD isn't old enough for school yet but I think this would be great.

~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?

Yes, definitely online with an easy return policy (to store, maybe?). As a full-time woh mum, I don't always want to spend precious weekends dragging the kids round the shops trying on school uniform. If I could order a few sizes and send back the ones that don't fit, it would be much better.

BrokenSunglasses Wed 07-Aug-13 17:20:00

-Adjustable waistbands are essential!

-I like the Teflon coating on trousers, they can be worn straight out of the tumble dryer when I'm being lazy. The Teflon coated ones seem to keep their pleat in place better as well, so when I do iron, I'm ironing in the right place easily.

-No idea about skirts as I have boys, but I am often surprised at how short they are. Please don't sell pinafores with buttons at the shoulders for 4 and 5 year olds! It makes parents buy them, and then I (reception TA) end up with a line of girls needing more help than is necessary on PE days.

-I'm not bothered about online ordering, I prefer to see clothes I'm buying and I live near enough to a big Tesco that I could easily go there if I was in a hurry.

The biggest thing I want is more choice in trouser sizes. I have a skinny son and a more portly son, and trousers either come too long if I get a big enough waist size, or bunched up at the back when I have to have the adjustable waist on its smallest setting. A 'slim fit' and a 'wide fit' in each age range would be good.

Smoodle Wed 07-Aug-13 20:48:20

- Adjustable waistbands essential. I won't buy trousers without them.
- Teflon coating essential too
- Trousers that retain pleats good
- I would like to see good quality brightly coloured coats for boys with reflective strips/panels. All the coats I seem to find are black which really annoys me as I have to walk my children along a busy road to school. Maybe coats with an inner fleece that can be zipped in for cold weather, and removed in autumn/winter so parents don't have to buy two coats. Also coats that you could somehow attach gloves to so they don't get lost? (poppers??)
- Would like to see proper leather school shoes sold rather than the plastic ones
- Shoes with only one velco fastening strip rather than three adding unnecessary complexity for Reception kids

Debs75 Wed 07-Aug-13 21:06:01

A good range of colours which you could tailor to each store depending on what schools in their area say they want for their uniform. If you need yellow polo shirts for your school and nowhere stocks them it is a right PITA trudging around every store. You could do this as an order in store.

A good length on skirts/dresses/shirts. MY dd is 5 not 15 so her skirts need to be knee length not bum skimming.

Decent school shoes which last for 6 months instead of just 6 weeks.

lagoonhaze Wed 07-Aug-13 21:14:33

Adjustable waistbands are essential.

Decent Plimsolls with Velcro straps.

Barefoot school shoes or decent leather ones with some flex please.

Ability to get all year round with decent stocks online if not in store.

Maffy Wed 07-Aug-13 21:24:13

~ How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?
They are pretty essential for boys, and make clothes last longer!

~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?
It is not a consideration for me, I only look for 100% cotton trousers and shorts; in fact I dream of having them in different cuts...

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?
Useful, but would prefer 100% cotton skirts.

Please make cotton uniform!

IncaAztec Thu 08-Aug-13 09:12:53

~ How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?

My child has a skinny waist - no adjustable waistband would equal no purchase for her I'm afraid!.

~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?

I do think it minimises stains but not all stains. Sorry but it doesn't improve longevity really. Skirts and shirts still bobble up over time.

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?

Very helpful if you are useless at ironing like me!

~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?

Yes, you need to be able to view it at least online - even if you later click and collect it at a store. I live a long way from my nearest Tesco and I don't like a wasted trip.

asuwere Thu 08-Aug-13 10:37:41

~ How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?
extremely important. my children couldn't wear trousers without adjustable waists as child sizes are so odd - on size chart, DS3 is 5-6 for height but 2-3 for waist!

~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?
It's not something that I look for and not sure it does make that much difference. To be honest, normal clothes are more likely to get stained than uniform but they are rarely teflon coated. Don't think it helps the longevity at all.

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?
I'm sure it would be useful but only have boys at school so not really an issue.

~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?
Online is quite useful so long as all the information is available, sometimes you do need to see things and try them on to check fit so a good returns service would be essential. (Tesco have some trousers online which say adjustable waist but in fact they are just elasticated!)

Things I'd like to see; a range of coats; they don't just have to be black! Proper waterproof would be good too, although pac-a-macs are useful, it's easier to have a warm, waterproof coat than need a coat plus a waterproof on top. (and reflective strips on all coats for children!)
slim fit trousers!
should be available all year round - things need replaced and children grow so don't only need uniform in summer!

TallulahTT Thu 08-Aug-13 12:20:16

A range of skirts in different lengths, I really struggle to find decent lengths for my taller dds, it's hard to find and the adjustable waist bands often just gather up ina bunched area, not a great look.

adjustable waist bands are essential - otherwise to have long enough trousers for my ds they have to be falling off his bottom and he hates belts (he's 6) and will hold off going to the loo all day to avoid dealing with a belt.

teflon or not - not sure. what i really want is value, adjustable waist band, must be able to tumble dry them and durable.

where tesco let's me down is in not doing dark blue/navy polo shirts. they only do the light blue ones here even though i don't know of a single school that has that colour as a uniform but know of several who have navy. george does sell navy and that means they tend to get my custom instead of tesco as i can buy it all at once.

ILoveAFullFridge Thu 08-Aug-13 13:26:18

Teflon-coated - good, as long as the material itself is of decent quality.
Permanent pleat skirts (and trousers) - good. I never iron uniform grays.

Adjustable waistbands - critical. I really struggle to find trousers for my boys: if trousers fit on the hips they are too short on the legs, and if they fit for length on the legs are generally too big on the seat even with the waist adjusted (they looks like they're wearing a nappy!). Yet slim-fit trousers are usually too tight for sitting cross-legged. The best style, I find, have front pleats.

Online shopping - good, as long as I can return in a RL shop, and not have to pay p&p for the privilege of trying on clothes.

I think a few simple permanent pleats is a great idea for girls skirts.
Have always been a fan of the teflon coating
Like things to come out of the tumble dryer looking good without needing an iron - collars of tops can often be a bit wrinkled
However also prefer mainly natural fabrics
Going through the knees of trousers is one of our biggest on-going issues (DS)
I like to see uniform available throughout the year and not only in August
Availability of sizes can be an issue eg. as new term approaches.

turkeyboots Thu 08-Aug-13 14:01:11

~ How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?

Vital. I have tall skinny kids and without adjustable wasitbands nothing fits them properly.

~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?

Haven't noticed to be honest, but I try to buy pure cotton where possible to avoid aggrivating DC excema.

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?

Don't see how they are helpful, but are nice. But they don't work well with adjustable waists. DD ended up with a bustle effect on her skirts last year, or in a mini skirt for the one which did fit her wasit.

~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?

Yes. Online is great for non-tradtional uniform buying season. And helpful if a full range of sizes and colours is always avaialable. Last year I couldn't get age 6 plain polos anywhere online - totally sold out. But in store stuff in needed for emergency uniform replacements - I like how Asda locally has a permamnet school uniform section.

Also more cotton summer dresses please. DD only has a v tradtional style from M&S which she's not fond of as it was the only place which did them.

NeoMaxiZoomDweebie Thu 08-Aug-13 14:08:12

How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform? Yes. I just won't buy trousers or skirts without them...my children both have very slim waists but are quite tall...I need to be able to adjust longer fitting clothes.

What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not? I have never really found grey trousers or skirts to be at risk of staining....white shirts however...they're shockingly bad for it.

How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts? Very! I don't like ironing pleats at all!

If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not Definitely! Especially with a good size guide.

I like Tesco uniform...I would like a prettier range of socks though! More white knee socks with bows or patterns please! smile

piprabbit Thu 08-Aug-13 14:10:01

~ How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?
They are essential. DD is tall and slim, so we always end up buying bigger sizes for the length and then having to reduce the waistband to the minimum. DS is just a skinny minny

~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?
I've not noticed a difference and TBH can never remember if the uniform in current use is Teflon coated or not. I wouldn't pay extra for it

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?
I'd rather buy a smart, properly knee-length, A-line skirt with no pleats at all. But when I can't find that sort of skirt, then I consider permanent pleats. I wouldn't touch non-permanent pleats with a barge pole

~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?
I think there would have to be a high street presence so we could go and try things on to make sure all the sizing is OK and to feel the fabrics etc. but then I'd go home and order online (so long as delivery or collection is free).

Also, how about providing a bigger label to put the child's name on, and suitable permanent markers to do so ?

Spirael Thu 08-Aug-13 14:47:15

~ How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?
Very important. DD is tall and skinny for her age (I blame DH, she doesn't get it from me) and I either have to buy things that are too short or look like tents when she wears them.
If it's possible in the design, elasticated or adjustable waists/sides in dresses would be appreciated! Or maybe a tie at the back? That can be done loose enough to remove the dress without needing to change it, but is tight enough to give the dress some shape. Could be combined with a front zip for easy removal at PE time, despite the tie.

~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?
DD's only just started wearing a uniform, intermittently, for school room at nursery. So I'm not sure about the durability yet.

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?
Very. I loathe ironing and if I can dry things straight enough not to bother then that makes my life easier.

~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?
Yes, very much so. Because I'd take my DD into the shop and find the right size and style for her, then come home and order enough of the same size/style/colour as she requires.
Also means I can try a different colour on her in the same size if they don't have the one I'm after, then just order the right colour later. Rather than having to keep popping back in to see whether it's in stock yet.

Bluecarrot Thu 08-Aug-13 14:58:16

~ How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?

When DD was little adjustable waistbands were essential as she was tall and very slim. Shes 10 now and no longer needs them but I imagine lots still do.

~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimizing stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?

I love our teflon coated stuff. We do have some treated stuff (not sure what it is treated with, but is stain resistant) but it needs ironed, which Id rather not have to do. Some of DDS skirts still look brand new after a year. I think that the quality of the stitching matters a lot to how long skirts look good. Trousers, I can imagine, take a bit more abuse at the knees, but no experience as only have a DD.

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?
I love anything I dont have to iron!

~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?

I would say that you should have one of each size and style in store year round so that they can be tried on, plus allow collect in store (free) and free return-to-store as well.

OTHER

Some white polo shirts are incredibly thin and require a vest underneath for modesty. I hate that!

Everything should be non-iron, and be able to be tumble dried.

Adjustable waistband are great. Also some way of making pinafore dresses more adjustable - dd1 still prefers them, at 8 have had to buy 11/12yr old to be able to get them on, but then are like tents- need longer zips. Agree with another poster about having longer skirts, she likes them to cover her knees.

Not sure if teflon lasts longer - with dark clothes don't show too much anyway.

Having available online all year would be good - with free returns and clothes in navy as well as grey/black.

Socks must have sizes embroidered into the hem and tights must last more than a month. Black/navy leggings available in plain packs are also great for dd2 who hates tights and trousers but gets cold legs. I don't want to buy 3 leggings in black, red and blue with yellow spots in order to get a pair of leggings for school.

RunningGingerFreckleyThing Thu 08-Aug-13 15:10:56

My only essentials are adjustable waistbands and hard wearing trousers so that they dont get holes in the knees after a few weeks. The waistbands are the first thing I look at.
Also a good stock of a range of sizes. Whenever I have looked, there are none of the size I'm after.

mum2eci Thu 08-Aug-13 17:53:14

Adjustable waists are a must (especially for my skinny daughter lol).
Leather shoes in a 'wide' fitting would be much appreciated so I wouldn't have to buy expensive Clarks shoes :-)
Non-iron is always good (especially for me having 3 school children!)

ILoveAFullFridge Thu 08-Aug-13 17:58:40

"Also, how about providing a bigger label to put the child's name on, and suitable permanent markers to do so ?" YES! and make them cottony so that they won't scratch and the pen won't bleed.

Mine are too old for uniform now, but as the 'proud owner' of a v tal and v skinny dd1 I always struggled to find school skirts which were small enough on the waist without veering into 'lady of the night' length.

And the other thing we could never find was polo shirts that had some sense of shape to them - they were always virtually square, so far, far too wide even in smaller sizes.

Oh and we never wanted added trimmings, shiny belts or buttons etc, or any other concession to making uniform look 'cute' or 'girly' or (heaven forbid) tarty, thank you. smile

Yes to adjustable waistbands. No to Teflon. No opinion re pleats. No to online making it easier - it's a faff when sizings are so unreliable.

Adjustable waistbands- not an issue for me. DD is fast approaching puberty, filling out in typical places, so we find trousers often too tight on her. They seem to be quite narrow on the hips. We much prefer jersey style trousers, but these aren't easy to find, or tend to be really long.

Teflon- not noticed any difference. Any way to make white polo shirts stay really white, and repel whatever orange stuff DD attracts each day?

Pleats- woud rather have other options of skirts tbh, pleats are an unneccessary evil here.

Online- definitely, and order more stocks of the basics, you shouldn't sell out of white polo tshirts, these must be the most common item, you need lots!

Any ideas- I agree with the above, put a bit of shape in the polos, particularly girls. And do some rigourous tumble dryer testing. In winter, they generally go through the dryer a couple of times a week, it would be nice if they didn't shrink upwards as much as they do.

emanu Thu 08-Aug-13 20:17:03

If you had the chance to design your own school uniform for your DCs what would it look like?
I would really like to see jeans-cut trousers for boys. Ideally not always black or grey but that's up to schools! I would love some blue.

How important are adjustable waistbands to you?
Yes, definitely, very important at least at primary school age.

What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics?
Loathe it. I do not want any Teflon near my children. I have 100% cotton coloured jeans that have been used and washed for YEARS and are good. Why are all school trousers destroyed at the knees AND discoloured after a couple of months (cotton and Teflon covered are alike)?

How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?
I don't have girls, but again: no chemicals on children's clothes please!

If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?
A lot easier. Although I sometimes don't buy online if I feel the delivery fee is too high compared to what I need.

missorinoco Thu 08-Aug-13 20:35:47

Like the advert, it captures the point, which for my children is that the uniform will take a hammering through activities.

What is important for me?
Adjustable waistbands.

A plus size range, as well as adjustable waistbands.

Teflon, not sure. Many of the items I buy have it, but it wasn't in the polo shirts and sweaters that were attacked by felt tips, so I don't know if it would have saved the day. It isn't a push for me either way.

Easy iron items. I am not keen on ironing pleats into a primary school child's trousers thankyou.

Stop with the gender sterotypes of primary school children. Why could I buy normal white t shirts for my son for PE, but the girls' version is more fitted and has pretty tucks at the shoulders. And why does she need bootleg trousers aged 4. And pretty shoes.

I would be more likely to shop somewhere without these forced choices. I can buy boys clothes for her, but why can't they be marketed as unisex?

On line is good but I need to check the fit, so consider free returns and offers with free delivery, or order to collect from store for free.

nextphase Thu 08-Aug-13 21:11:16

How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?

Adjustable waistbands, or trousers for skinny kids are essential. My 4 year old, who needed full uniform to go to preschool, can still fit in shorts designed for his 12-18 month brother. Even on full adjustment, 3-4 trousers are on the loose side.

What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?

Awful. I'd like cotton, which I can then wash hot or scrub to get the stains out. Polyester with teflon doesn't help with sensitive, eczema prone skin.

How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?

No ideas, got boys!

If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?

Yes, online please. The horror of having to filter through the myriad of shirt, trouser styles and sizes, of which you never have age 3-4 left is horrible. And while your at it, please make more of the smaller sizes. I know this doesn't fit with a supermarket model, but what about a 1 of each size of each style as a display we can measure against the kids (to see how small I can go and get the trousers length required), and then order for next day to store delivery?

Stop with the stupid promotions to make us buy the uniform in June. Make it constant, reasonably priced all year round.

janekirk Thu 08-Aug-13 21:42:30

1/ Durability
2/ Price
3/ Easy to wash and iron

We don't personally need adjustable waistbands as DD seems to be quite a standard fit, but I can see that it's a lifesaver for many families!

I'm not bothered about teflon really, what I really do like is good non polyester fabrics in classic styles.

If they were properly permanent then yes, great idea as it makes life easier.

And yes yes yes. Online. I tend to buy things in shop to try on/have a feel of item etc but for school uniform things need replaced throughout the year and it would be great to do it at the click of a button!

daisybrown Thu 08-Aug-13 22:32:58

Plenty of turn-up on trousers & shorts to counter those growth spurts.
Expandable waist bands.
Well sewn buttons & zips.
Easy stain removal.

Adjustable waistbands are a really high priority, together with fabric that doesn't need too much any ironing.

Teflon coated fabrics certainly reduce staining, but the insurmountable problem remains white polo shirts which seemed to get stained on day one of wearing! Pockets are great, would be super to have these in dresses and skirts as well as in trousers though.

Anything that makes name labelling uniform would be good too!

Visadiva Thu 08-Aug-13 23:07:33

Adjustable waists are essential. I once bought age5 shorts with no adjustable waist - didn't fit till DS was 8!
Also has to wash well, and iron easily. There is no need for cute designs - little hearts and bows for example. I'm not too keen on online shopping for school age children either, as sizes vary so much.
I would like colours that don't fade and more choice of colours in polo shirts. I have to go to the specialist uniform shop for DS bottle green polo.

NaturalBaby Fri 09-Aug-13 16:45:33

~ I need adjustable waistbands in all my boys shorts and trousers, and no fastenings as they are only 4 and 5 so can't do them up yet.

~ I don't know how good teflon coated fabrics are but my boys wear art and lunch aprons so I've been lucky with stains.

~ I only have boys so no comments on skirts

~ I like to have the option of buying online, especially if I can collect in store to check it before taking home, that definitely makes my life easier!

I have 4dd's at school from September, adjustable waistbands are a must as well as a greater range in smaller sizes, dd4 is swamped by age 3 clothes even though she is nearly 5. I'm not fussed by Teflon and actually prefer pleat free skirts and dresses. Cheap and hardwearing are my only requirements really.

Wonderstuff Fri 09-Aug-13 17:20:50

~ How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?
I like them, kids waists vary so much, DD likes to wear trousers, but I stopped sending her in them because the girls ones were cut so low, and her polo shirt would ride up, leaving her back exposed and she got awful eczema on her back, so she goes to school in a dress now.

~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not? Not sure, did get through a lot of summer dresses this year as they got stained, so will look out for Teflon on summer dresses.

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts? Helpful

~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not? I haven't bought uniform online, I tend to get it at the supermarket. I think because I don't do a big shop, but grab bits as I need them and don't want to wait or pay postage.

CheeryCherry Fri 09-Aug-13 17:56:23

I like adjustable waistbands, my DCs are tall but slim so need to alter the waistband sometimes, and I can't sew very well!
I'm not too fussed about Teflon, I go for style and fit first, I'm just relieved when we've found suitable uniform. I can't say either way if it helps with stains.
I would definitely sell it online, I tend to buy uniform online anyway, as it is available all year round in all sizes, instead of this mad summer rush. I like free returns though for when its not quite right! Much easier and far less hassle with 3 DCs.

RubySparks Fri 09-Aug-13 18:01:16

Having teenagers it is important for items to be fashionable and for my DD (who has sensitive skin) the soft cotton and natural fabrics are important. Many of the no iron or no stain clothes look fine but feel horrible.

LentilAsAnything Fri 09-Aug-13 18:19:27

Adjustable waistbands for sure.
Non-iron.
No Teflon.
No polyester, yuck.

Everything should be available online.

MrsMaryCooper Fri 09-Aug-13 18:51:32

~ How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?

Very important. DS is long and skinny.

~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?

Yes, I like them. Fabric is a bit hard to begin with, though

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?

Yes, helpful

~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?

Online makes things a lot easier.

Keeping a supply of polo shirts etc throughout the year is also very useful. Especially if your child is prone to growth spurts or hard on clothes. Sometimes difficult to obtain colours other than white/navy.

Hasitfallendownagain Fri 09-Aug-13 18:53:12

Definite yes to adjustable waists. I'd also like to see maybe tall and petite sizing, or slim, standard and husky sizing - or whatever you want to call it. Sometimes even with an elasticated waist you have to pull in so much fabric that it bunches up around the waist - having a slimmer cut would reduce the problem.

I don't really care one way or another about teflon coating.

I'd really like to see a high/ 100% cotton content in everything - especially summer dresses and jumpers.

Reduced ironing things are nice, but I'd iron everything anyway, so not that essential to me.

Having uniform in the right colour for the local schools in the local store is a must!! (though it was another supermarket, not Tesco that did this - racks and racks of red jumpers and cardigans (and no other colours!) when not one of the three primary schools in the town have a red uniform grin.

Everything should definitely be available online.

LaTrucha Fri 09-Aug-13 19:36:41

~ How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?
Essential. Trousers and skirts would not stay on without one.

~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?
I really have no idea.

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?
Very helpful.

~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?
I do most of my shopping online, so if it not online it is not bought, preferably with free delivery.

loopyloou Fri 09-Aug-13 19:44:56

For us an adjustable Waistband is very important, as the clothes otherwise never fit my daughter, she is tall and skinny!

I'm not sure whether Teflon helps avoid stains, I don't buy it, I tend to buy the style I want, whatever material it comes in.

I would only buy a pleated skirt with permanent pleats, I have no time to iron pleats in! I need a pleated skirt I can wash and hang up to dry without needing to iron it.

I prefer to buy online, as I rarely get into a large town where there is plenty of choice, so nearly always buy uniform online.

Adjustable waistbands - yes, always look for this on trousers/ skirts.

Also a personal bugbear - my local Tesco Extra is less than half a mike from DD's school. In fact, it is the closest school to the store. However, the Tesco store does every colour jumper/ cardigan apart from our colour! Very occasionally a few in our colour seem to appear, and they are instantly snapped up, then we see no more for the rest of the year. Very annoying.

I find the shoes are really poor quality. Rock hard, no nice soft leather.

Ideally it'd come in sizes like men's trousers not in ages.

Adjustable waists are important

I also wish more schools had coloured polos rather than the white that soon turns grey.

Shorts for girls

MsMarple Fri 09-Aug-13 21:43:46

In answer to your questions:

- Adjustable waistbands are absolutely essential - DS is skinny so without them his trousers would never stay up.

~ Teflon sounds like a bit of a gimmick. In fact I'd actually avoid buying something for my children that was coated with strange chemical substances. I give DS clean trousers everyday and the normal ones seem to wash just fine.

~ Being able to buy uniform online is very much easier, as shopping with restless children isn't much fun. I actually ordered all uniform last year from Tesco online and collected it free from my nearest store, which meant I was sure of getting the sizes I wanted. Very convenient, thank you.

- Finally what I would REALLY like to be able to buy, but haven't been able to find, are
long-sleeved white polo shirts that are 100% cotton (highlighted in case you are only skim reading!) His school uniform policy says that they can wear long sleeved ones if they like but they don't tell you where on earth to buy the things!

SunnyIntervals Fri 09-Aug-13 22:50:25

100% cotton, non itchy stitching, easy to iron.

cece Sat 10-Aug-13 00:17:03

Adjustable waist bands are essential to me otherwise the clothes do not fit my DC - without them the trousers/skirts are too big. I would not buy them if they didn't have adjustable waists.

~

I have no view on Teflon coating - my DS1 has clean clothes for school everyday as he gets very dirty. I have no idea which, if any, of his clothes have Teflon coatings.

DD's school skirts are not allowed to have pleats. But make them longer please as they are always too short!

Online yes please, as it so easy to buy all in one go without the dreaded dragging kids to a busy shop. Also make it available all year around, as kids grow. Another problem I have had this year is buying boys shorts in sizes bigger than 12 yrs old - apparently there is 'no demand' for them. Well my DS1 is in yr4 and would like some shorts - he is just very big for his age!

I also only ever buy non iron white shirts. I suggest that each store finds out the colour of the local school's polo shirts and stock the correct colours accordingly. Maddening to go into store to look for yellow polo shirts to find them all gone but hundreds of red ones as no local schools are red but three local schools wear yellow. Ditto with school dresses.

I never buy shoes from Tesco for school always go to Clarks.

VestaCurry Sat 10-Aug-13 00:21:57

Adjustable waistbands: critical

Teflon coating:
important as it does help re stains eg easier to sponge a stain off with it (so avoid washing whole item unnecessarily)

Permanent pleats in skirts:
I have boys so not required but permanent creases in trousers are a must

If you could manufacture your ideal uniform range would you make it available to parents online? Do you think it makes parents lives easier or not?
I do 90% of my shopping whether for groceries, clothing or other items online. I have only ever bought school uniform online. Not interested in wasting my time in shops, as I spent far too much time pre Internet shopping trudging from shop to shop in search of items not in stock in one branch then the next etc. With price of fuel and parking these days shopping trips are expensive. Free returns is very very helpful to avoid faff in the post office.

Non-iron everything is my ideal. I try to minimise tumble dry use and have found some manufacturers are better than others about creating uniform that can be hung over a clothes airer to dry and the result is virtually uncreased items.

cece Sat 10-Aug-13 00:25:01

Adjustable waist bands are essential to me otherwise the clothes do not fit my DC - without them the trousers/skirts are too big. I would not buy them if they didn't have adjustable waists.

~

I have no view on Teflon coating - my DS1 has clean clothes for school everyday as he gets very dirty. I have no idea which, if any, of his clothes have Teflon coatings.

DD's school skirts are not allowed to have pleats. But make them longer please as they are always too short!

Online yes please, as it so easy to buy all in one go without the dreaded dragging kids to a busy shop. Also make it available all year around, as kids grow. Another problem I have had this year is buying boys shorts in sizes bigger than 12 yrs old - apparently there is 'no demand' for them. Well my DS1 is in yr4 and would like some shorts - he is just very big for his age!

I also only ever buy non iron white shirts. I suggest that each store finds out the colour of the local school's polo shirts and stock the correct colours accordingly. Maddening to go into store to look for yellow polo shirts to find them all gone but hundreds of red ones as no local schools are red but three local schools wear yellow. Ditto with school dresses.

I never buy shoes from Tesco for school always go to Clarks.

firawla Sat 10-Aug-13 01:16:27

adjustable waist is important
teflon I am not bothered although i think it could be good
the skirts, n/a for me i have boys only

I look for things which wash and tumble dry well

VelvetStrider Sat 10-Aug-13 12:02:28

It would be good if Tesco stocked the colours of uniform that the local schools wear. Not just generic colours meaning that some colours have loads left over and others aren't available at all.

Adjustable waistbands are essential. Or else make the trousers for normal sized children and not overweight ones.

Make belts that are easy to do up and undo, and don't pinch skin.

School shoes for boys need a big tough rubbery bit over the toe, made out of the same stuff as the sole. If they don't have this they last about 2 weeks max!

Everything should be non iron.

VelvetStrider Sat 10-Aug-13 12:05:33

I think you can see by this thread that you make the waistbands TOO BIG!

Despite the headlines most children are not obese and you are not doing the majority of customers any favours by sizing your trousers for the few children who are.

farrowandbawl Sat 10-Aug-13 14:18:46

One where the uniform irons itself.

My ironing pile doubles during term time.

pointythings Sat 10-Aug-13 16:14:38

~ How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?
I'd rather have a wide range of fittings available than have adjustable waistbands. My younger DD is very very slim and adjusting the waistbands as far as is needed just makes the fabric bunch. Slim and long fits are the way to go. I'd also like to see school uniform for teenagers take account of girls who develop early in terms of waist and hips.

~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?
I have always avoided these as DD1 has eczema - I'd much rather see more natural fabrics anyway

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?
Very, very helpful. I say this as someone who does not iron.

~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?
I buy most of my school uniform online currently so definitely yes. I'd also like to see uniform available in wide ranges online throughout the school year, rather than just in back to school season - children have a habit of growing unpredictably and nothing is more annoying than having to buy new halfway through winter term only to find virtually nothing available.

chocolateshoes Sat 10-Aug-13 16:16:35

I would like:

non-iron material (as I never iron, so i would give DS's uniform a chance of looking less creased)
adjustable waist bands are a must as DS is tall & slim
some 'cooler' style trousers & shorts - maybe in cardo style with pockets - but in navy blue - we seem to be the only school with blue trousers.
I dn't know about permanent pleats in skirts as don't have a daughter
all year round and online

insertsomethingwitty Sat 10-Aug-13 18:27:40

~ How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?

Essential, I never buy skirts/trousers without them, ideally they would come in a range of 'fits' as well i.e. Next does plus, regular and slim fit as well as adjustable waistbands

~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?

I think they look fairly awful, I have relatively 'clean' children through.

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?

Permanent pleats are very useful, I would iron over anyway but is useful if you don't have to start from a crumpled up mess every time.

~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?

Yes essential to be online, often in store it is hard to find specific sizes. I always order on line to try on a few sizes and styles at home.

sounds like EVERYONE finds tesco waistbands massive.

who are these enormous waisted children who they fit?

aristocat Sat 10-Aug-13 19:26:46

Adjustable waistbands are excellent and very much needed

No to Teflon, DSs trousers don't usually last anyway

DD will not wear pleated skirts but likes the skater style

Uniform should be available all year round and everything non-iron please smile

VeryDullNameChange Sat 10-Aug-13 20:51:50

~ How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?

I don't really rate adjustable waistbands over and above a bit of elastication, in practice I don't find they work well. I'd rather every pair of trousers came in basic and long length.

~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?

I quite like Teflon coating - I do find it makes it a bit tougher.

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?

DD has refused to wear skirts since forever, but as a general thing I'm in favour of permanent pleats.

~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?

I hate online shopping - I much prefer to pick things up in person, but school uniform is the only thing I make an exception for because the combination of size, style and colour always seems to be impossible to find. M&S in particular specialise in running a 3 for 2 deal and then only stocking 2 of whatever I want. So click and collect is brilliant for that.

What would be in my ideal school uniform? Cheap enough so that I can stock up multiples and don't have to wash every day (my DCs are horribly messy eaters). Dries quickly on the line. Decent size spaces for writing names on the labels with a laundry pen for when I'm not feeling domestic goddessy enough to sew labels on. Robust buttons - I frequently need to wash polo tops at 60 to get stains out (see above), and some of the buttons have gone a funny colour or even cracked.
Unisex options for polo shirts, coats, plimsolls, tracky bottoms, trainers, plain T-shirts, wellies etc that aren't labelled BOYS. As the parent of a primary age DS and DD I want to be able to buy unisex hand-downable clothes that DD won't moan about. And if we're talking shoes, solid rain-proof shoes for girls that they can run about in.

ILoveMyCaravan Sat 10-Aug-13 21:28:56

I would like to see a choice of length for trousers.
Definitely elasticated and/or adjustable waists.
I HATE Teflon coated fabrics. My children have eczema/sensitive skin and I can think of nothing worse for them to wear than Teflon/nylon/synthetic fabrics which do not allow the skin to breathe, especially in hot weather. PLEASE produce cotton school uniform - if it's decent quality, it will last.
Defintely make it available online all year round.

MickleMe Sat 10-Aug-13 21:31:38

~ How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?
I have 3 boys and they all seem to need adjustable waistbands on trousers. I wouldn't buy any trousers without them for school or otherwise.

~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?
I do look for storm proof, stain resistant type materials and it does seem to make a difference.

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?
I do find permanent pleats helpful in trousers but no idea about skirts!

~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?
I do tend to buy a lot of stuff online and always like to have this as an option. Often I find that stores don't have the sizes I need in the quantities I need.

Other things are look for are socks that have the sizes written in the fibres on the cuff at the top. Accessories in a variety of colours so I can get each of my boys something different. I buy things I think will last. I want things I can wash at high temperatures and that don't require a lot of ironing. When buying shoes I look for styles with a bumper at the front to prevent scuffing.

I'd like adjustable waists, crease free ( so i dont have to iron them!) and fade resistant uniform. My sons tops are red but after a few washes start looking a dirty shade.

MickleMe Sat 10-Aug-13 21:35:31

Just to add another thought, trousers always seem to fade and thin on the knees and the hems always end up frayed and ripped. We buy quite a lot of uniform because we both work and struggle to wash and iron in the week. Despite this the uniforms are more than ready for the bin come the end of the school year

VileWoman Sat 10-Aug-13 21:45:42

I want...
Natural fabrics (eczema friendly)
Adjustable waists (or even better clothes for skinny children, adjustable waists on a skinny child just means lots of wrinkles round the waist)
Non-iron clothes
Gender neutral shirts, jumpers, trousers, shorts and ankle socks (want to be able to hand down as many clothes as possible).
Cost is not an issue here, or rather, I'm prepared to pay more for clothes that last.

CharlotteCollinsismovingon Sat 10-Aug-13 22:40:05

I would not buy clothes without adjustable waistbands - forever seem to be adjusting them in and out for my DCs!

Good to see girls' PE shorts are much longer than we've found in the past - is that new? I wonder. The short shorts we've had to buy in the past felt rather indecent. Still don't understand why girls have to have leg-clinging cycle shorts, though. I buy boys' shorts for my DDs now - they find them much more comfortable and more flattering, too.

BigGapMum Sat 10-Aug-13 22:41:38

~ How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?
Essential. I wouldn't buy trousers without them.

~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?
Not sure that it improves the longevity of them, as they generally are grown out of, or lost before they are worn out anyway. I don't actually like the Teflon ones due to the shine and stiffness of the fabric.

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?
I've only had sons so I can't comment personally, but I imagine they would be beneficial. Permanent pleats in trousers would be good.

~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?
Obviously the option of ordering online would be good, however they need to be available to buy/see in stores as well so buyers could see the quality in real life.

Also after helping in the school with reception age children getting changed for swimming lessons I've realised that lots of girls summer dresses are difficult to get on and off. Generally I would say they need a longer zip / row of buttons.

Silverfoxballs Sat 10-Aug-13 22:48:27

Adjustable waistbands really helpful

Teflon coated fabric still tore when DS was little and falling in playground, have both with and without available because some people will want as cheap as possible due to cost and rapid growth of dc

Permanent pleats fine, how about stay prest creases down the front of trousers as well

Online needed, free delivery very preferable. I have bought Tesco uniform online before.

BasilBabyEater Sat 10-Aug-13 22:59:49

I'd like the cheap brands to start copying secondary school uniforms as well as primary.

Primary school uniforms are cheap. Secondary school uniform prices are horrific and still sold in monopoly outlets.

I would happily live without permanent pleats, adjustable waistbands, the lot, if only I could afford to buy it without going into overdraft.

DD doesn't have a school uniform, but I would like to see girls' clothes that were sturdy enough for climbing trees. No stupid branding or twee logos too.

basil see i'd like secondary schools to follow the primary school lead. polo shirts, black or grey trousers and a jumper or cardi with a logo on. same for boys and girls. i cannot compute the need to be putting them in blazers, shirts and ties full stop - let alone 11 year old girls. presumably school was only for boys so they had the boys uniform of the era and when girls went they had to wear the same but with a skirt.

time to move on.

blazers are so impractical for kids traveling in all weathers - try getting an anorak over a blazer or proper warm winter coat. the blazer (and always horrible fabric) has to be screwed up in a ball into the bag ready to be tugged out when you get shouted at for not having it on when you get to school.

the primary model is more than smart enough, identifies what school they're from by colour and a badge, is affordable and is actually practical and far more reflective of the level of smartness expected by most employers nowadays.

BasilBabyEater Sun 11-Aug-13 08:15:21

Totally agree SAF.

I fail to understand why my DC's pullover has to have a stripe around the V neck of it so that I can't get it in F&F, I have to go to a monopoly school shop and pay £24 for it. It's even worse when they have customised shirts or blouses - stuff worn next to the skin so needing a wash after each wear.

Shouldn't be allowed and I wish the supermarkets would use their muscle to lobby on this. God knows politicians aren't going to listen to mere parents. hmm

it is criminal really. one of the principles of uniform is to undermine bullying and put everyone on a level - re: expensive trainers v mum can't afford them etc. but that gets blown out of the water when they make uniform too expensive force everyone to buy it at the monopoly shop and therefore some will be in clean clothes everyday because parents can afford to buy loads and some will be wearing day in day out. some will have a new size every year, some will be patently wearing clothes too small for them or tatty and falling apart.

i do think it's immoral.

there is no justification at all and it's just a way of getting a handback from the shops.

ds is supposed to wear all the stuff from the uniform shop - including the polo necks with the logo on. a polo neck with logo is £13! no better quality than the packs of £3 for a fiver. the jumpers are about £18. he is at primary school so still growing!

i have conceded to him having the logo'd jumpers but will not and cannot spend £13 per polo shirt. i remember the intake evening being told it was compulsory to wear all proper uniform and saying there and then that as far as i was aware that could not be correct or be enforced as how could families be punished for the finances? i was then patronisingly told they have a second hand uniform sale once a year if i was 'struggling' hmm

it's all just so unnecessary. their uniform is navy blue sweater and navy or white polo with a ridiculous embroidered logo that ups the price. it is the only school in the village so it's not like they need to differentiate themselves. if they find it essential to have a badge they should just sell the iron or stitch on ones.

VeryDullNameChange Sun 11-Aug-13 08:45:50

I agree SAF. DC's school compromises quite reasonably on a logo'd sweatshirt (available from Tesco's embroidery service, so pretty much as cheap as possible) and then off-the peg polos and trousers. Specialist shirts is taking the piss.

yep especially when you're talking about reception kids ffs - coming home splattered in paint and some of them still wetting themselves some days not to mention the rate of growing grin yeah sure kit them out in minimum £35 worth of gear on a daily basis hmm

it's idiotic.

sorry - £18 jumper, £13 polo shirt - that's £31 in itself actually so if you really added on a decent pair of shoes (essential at that age and minimum £30) a pair of trousers and underwear you're actually looking at a 4 yo wearing a £70 outfit to throw paint at and potentially wee in.

babster Sun 11-Aug-13 11:57:30

Black skirts please! I have just returned from our local Tesco and they're all grey sad

actually tesco if you really want some good press on uniform and your responsiveness/concern for parents you could take part in a campaign against expensive uniform and allowing monopolies - re: only one shop sells it, ergo no competition, ergo fucking outrageous prices.

mind you you might first want to stand up and back the co op on lads mags.

IceCreamForCrow Sun 11-Aug-13 13:08:41

I read the title as 'Tell F&F what you really look like in a school uniform..' Yikes would be the answergrin

Anyway..we really neeed grey skinny or straight teen girls school trousers.

Adjustable waists always useful

If F&F were to develop a decent range of leather school shoes (and I mean of decent quality) to give Clarks some much needed competition I'd be delighted. To cater for teen sizes ie adult.

oh yes please to someone making decent children's shoes that don't cost more than adult versions.

i am gambling on a pair of lee cooper shoes for ds this september. they were reduced to £20 and i'm hoping they will last. i don't understand why it's either pay £40 for a decent pair of shoes or anything from £5 - £30 and expect them to fall apart within a week.

curlycatkin Sun 11-Aug-13 13:52:37

My daughter only wants to wear trousers to school. They don't have to be made of scratchy stuff, I wish more comfortable ones were widely available for girls and boys.
I would like to see fair trade options and organic cotton too.

~ How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?

Very Important as all my children are slimmer than 'average'. So need these.

~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?

I haven't noticed really. I am not keen on chemicals...

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?

Very.

~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?

Yes it's a good idea.

pollywollydoodle Sun 11-Aug-13 16:07:04

I look for easy care uniforms (permapleated, teflonned) they have to have adjustable waist bands as my dd has long legs for her age
dd 9y likes soft material and no "girly" bits of embroidery, diamante, heart shaped buttons etc she hates sleeves that ride up and ruttle up inside her cardi

it would be nice to have smart girls shorts available in spring and more culotte/skort blouse combos...she doesn't like doing handstands etc and flashing her knickers and equally doesn't like wearing shorts underneath to stop it

ourlittlestreet Sun 11-Aug-13 16:13:32

Adjustable waistbands on clothes, soft not scratchy fabrics, longer length skirts then I don't have to get massive waist size for right length.
Wider range of school shoes, school coats in colours other than black or pink.
A decent selection all year round. Ours is a superstore and couldn't get a skirt in her size or a cardigan. There were sizes for age 4,12 and 14. That's it!
Yes I like pleated skirts.

Adjustable waistbands were very important to us when ds3 was younger, because he was tall and skinny, so unless we could find trousers with adjustable,e waistbands, we had to chose between trousers the right length that fell down as soon as he moved (not great, for an active child), or trousers that were too short and looked stupid.

Teflon coated fabric meant we could sponge stains off easily, meaning trousers didn't have to go to the wash for one stain.

I have only boys, so am not sure I can comment on permanent-pleated skirts, but I imagine it would make it easier to keep them looking good.

Ordering online would make uniform shopping a lot easier and less stressful.

My ideal uniform range - would contain good quality items for older children, with a bit more teen style.

LoveBeingItsABoy Sun 11-Aug-13 19:08:50

I have been this weekend to Tesco and got dds uniform. Managed to double up a £5 voucher and had another for 3.50 as well as £9 off a £60 spend.

I got a couple of dresses; Teflon with perm pleats. Had to get my 5 yr old 7-8 as the 6-7 seemed a bit too tight and short. Feels fine very similar to the ms ones from last year. The zips ran more smoothly though. Has a name label so all seems ok so far. Got the las two in her size so al got a skirt. Just need to se how Tgey wash now.

I got some tops too, Tgey feel a bit thinner than m&s ones so just need to see how they wash.

I did also get some plimsoles with a flower design on with dd was very pleased with and some shorts for pe (like cut off leggings)

After last years uniform I'd say how they look after lots of washing is really important

piprabbit Sun 11-Aug-13 19:10:53

It would be nice to be able to buy plimsolls for my 9yo DD. She has size 5 feet and your sizes don't go high enough.

ginmakesitallok Sun 11-Aug-13 19:12:09

How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform? - adjustable waistbands are a must in this house - but they do ruin the line of skirts

~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not? - can't say I've noticed a huge difference to be honest

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts? "permanent" pleats still need bloody ironed and are as big a pain in the arse as non-permanent ones. This year I've gotten DD skirts with NO pleats

~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not? Of course it should be available on-line?? How could you do a range which wasn't these days? What would be handy would be to be able to order a full uniform with pick and mix skirts/blouses/cardi/socks etc

ginmakesitallok Sun 11-Aug-13 19:12:42

Oh - and gym shoes which fit a narrower foot would be good!

loopyloou Sun 11-Aug-13 19:33:58

Also it's VERY important that school uniform is available in ALL sizes all year round. Children have growth spurts that we can't always plan for. Why should we only buy uniform early in the summer hols? I was told if I didn't buy a blazer in the first week of the hols (not by Tesco, by the way) that I probably wouldn't get one.

School shoes - it would be great if Tesco stocked more school shoes in leather in different styles in all sizes - including adult sizes.

Rooners Sun 11-Aug-13 20:49:34

Oh God. I must be tired as I thought this said 'tell F&F what you look LIKE in a school uniform'...hmm!!!!

<gets duffel coat>

bluebump Sun 11-Aug-13 21:23:18

~ I always look for adjustable waistbands, my DS is tall but very skinny and clothes for his age are often too big for him without the waistbands.

~ I don't think i've ever paid attention to teflon or not coated products, i'm usually motivated by price blush

~ Absoultely make it available online, I like to at least have looked at products in a store but once I know they fit/are decent quality then I will buy online if needs be.

I would like my school uniform to be cheaper! I love the availability of trousers and shorts, socks etc from supermarkets/M&S etc but my sons school has an official sweatshirt and polo shirts which are a colour which is impossible to match anywhere other than the school shop! I rarely iron so i'm pleased his entire uniform is crease free, this is essential when choosing trousers/shorts etc.

blueblackdye Sun 11-Aug-13 23:47:32

Natural fabric please, I'm fed up with polyester and viscose, I want cotton, wool.

VivaLeBeaver Mon 12-Aug-13 08:01:36

I'd like trousers to be slightly elasticated at the waist. Dd finds the adjustable waists really uncomfy. If you're skinny and have to pull them in loads then you end up with a big loop of scratchy elastic which sticks into your waist both sides.

VivaLeBeaver Mon 12-Aug-13 08:04:23

Sorry, to answer other questions.

I'm not bothered about Teflon, dd isn't a muck magnet but I imagine if I had a child who spilt stuff all the time I'd like it.

I've never thought about pleats but then dd has never worn skirts. I should imagine pleats are good???

Yes to having it online. Some people live in the sticks and a trip to tesco is a monthly big trip. Been able to order online is vital.

LizzieVereker Mon 12-Aug-13 10:21:59

Adjustable waistbands - I think these are useful for primary age DCs, but by secondary they won't wear them (not cool!)

Teflon coating - this is good and suits my children, but it smells quite strong and I wonder if it affects children with sensitive skin.

Pleats - I don't have daughters, but think they look smart

I would definitely like school uniform available online.

jojane Mon 12-Aug-13 12:43:28

elasticated waists are esential for my eldest son as he is a bean pole.
i would like clothes to be sold in height and width so eg 110cm tall would come in small, medium and large to cater differnt builds of children. if i buy trousers the correct hieght they are always massive clown looking on him as they are so big, but if i buy the correct width they are too short. i can never find slim fitting ones as they never seem to have his size.
for girls i would like thicker caridgans, maybe made out of sweatshirt material.

jojane Mon 12-Aug-13 12:44:15

oh and please dont run out of every size of tights except one by the beginning of august

Rooners Mon 12-Aug-13 12:50:41

Right, where to start?

Fabrics - please, please make cotton fabric trousers. Cotton everything in fact.

If you could do thick cotton, sensible, plain, nice trousers in grey, with an elasticated waist (like those broad ribbed waistbands you do on jeans - I just bought my son some of those from Tesco) I would be overjoyed and buy loads of them.

Putting kids in office style uniforms is so wrong. They are children; they need to play, and climb and fall over and sit down without them digging in.
So yeah - cotton with just basic pockets and not cargo style as our school won't allow them. And decent waistbands.

Thankyou smile

Rooners Mon 12-Aug-13 12:51:21

Oh yes and while you're at it please can we have cotton polo shirts that arent made in some sweatshop in Vietnam? I'd pay more.

Lilyloo Mon 12-Aug-13 14:03:03

Please consider doing adjustable waistbands for older children , my ds is tall and skinny and any trousers without adjustable waists fall down.
Super strong hems on trousers as they always come undone and fall down.
Stay white polo shirts and socks.
Non shrink polo shirts.
Some way of being able to label socks.
Good leather school shoes.
Sensible length school skirts / dresses.

hotair Mon 12-Aug-13 14:37:38

My ideal school uniform would be no school uniform, but I guess most people like them.
How important are adjustable waistbands to you? Would they factor into your ideal school uniform?
Erm I guess I would consider it buying trousers, but at the moment I only buy pinafores..
~ What do you think of Teflon coated fabrics? Do you think it is an effective way of minimising stains on school uniforms or not? Do you think it helps improves the longevity of the clothing or not?
No opinion yet- I haven't brought any!

~ How helpful, if at all, is having permanent pleats in skirts?
Don't like pleated skirts so not helpful to me!

~ If you could manufacture your ideal school uniform range would you make it available to parents online or not? Do you think that this makes parents' life easier or not?
Obviously it makes things easier to have the option to buy on line!

MichelleMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 12-Aug-13 16:18:53

Hi everyone, thanks for adding your thoughts to the thread. We've now closed the thread and selected a winner. Congratulations to MrsMaryCooper who's won the prize draw. We'll be in contact shortly.

paperlantern Tue 20-Aug-13 07:42:49

longer skirts

paperlantern Tue 20-Aug-13 07:42:54

longer skirts

paperlantern Tue 20-Aug-13 07:42:59

longer skirts

paperlantern Tue 20-Aug-13 07:43:04

longer skirts

paperlantern Tue 20-Aug-13 07:43:10

longer skirts

paperlantern Tue 20-Aug-13 07:43:12

longer skirts

paperlantern Tue 20-Aug-13 07:43:13

longer skirts

paperlantern Tue 20-Aug-13 07:43:15

longer skirts

paperlantern Tue 20-Aug-13 07:43:19

longer skirts

paperlantern Tue 20-Aug-13 07:43:23

longer skirts

paperlantern Tue 20-Aug-13 07:43:25

longer skirts

paperlantern Tue 20-Aug-13 07:43:26

longer skirts

Would you like longer skirts, paperlantern? <<whistles innocently>>

Ohhelpohnoitsa Mon 14-Oct-13 23:24:38

right now f&f are the only trousers that fit my son in height, waist & leg girth - so thank you for that BUT I would pay an extorionate amount at the moment for the same size in a nice. natural good quality material as all the uniforms - f&f, sains, asda, u iform specialist, m&s etc are giving him eczema on his legs & tummy. maybe you could do a cotton-lined paire just for him? pleeease

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