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What do you think of UK Government’s Scottish Referendum YouDecide tool? NOW CLOSED

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MichelleMumsnet (MNHQ) Fri 18-Jul-14 14:33:51

Today, the UK Government is launching YouDecide; an online tool that helps you to see what remaining in the United Kingdom offers you and your family.

Here's what UK Government has to say:

"We have created YouDecide ahead of the Scottish independence referendum on 18 September, to help you explore what the United Kingdom provides and what this means for your home, your family and your work life. YouDecide has been designed so that you can drill down quickly and simply to get facts on the issues that matter to you.

"We all know that the independence referendum is the most important decision to face voters in Scotland in 300 years; it's a decision that affects everyone in Scotland and the rest of the UK. The information you find on the YouDecide tool is informed by the facts and figures published in HM Treasury's Scotland analysis programme and also reflects UK Government policy.

"There is a wealth of information on the referendum subject. We want you to be as fully informed as possible ahead of making such an historic and permanent decision.

"There are of course a number of things we cannot answer, because no one knows the full impact that independence would have on all areas. Splitting a 300 year-old union would be complicated and many new agreements would need to be negotiated. We can't speculate on unknowns but we can give you the facts about the existing UK policy.

"Together as England, Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland we have created one of the world's most successful unions. Our UK Government policy is that we want to see Scotland remain part of the UK because we believe that by staying together we have much more to share and much more to gain."

Have a look at YouDecide and let us know what you think of the tool and the issues surrounding it by posting your thoughts below. Do you feel you have the facts and information you need to make an informed choice about Scotland's future to remain in the United Kingdom or to leave and become a separate state, permanently, or not? You can also look at the UK Government's In the Know factsheets series and booklet: What Staying in the United Kingdom Means for Scotland.

Thanks,

MNHQ

FannyFifer Fri 18-Jul-14 17:40:02

More scaremongering rubbish.

For example pensions are already guaranteed to continue to be paid by rUK following independence, the department of works and pensions has already confirmed this.

Just the same if a uk citizen moves abroad they will still get their pension which they have contributed to all their working life.

Following independence Scotland's pensions would obviously be more affordable as would not be paying for many pensioners initially. grin

weebarra Fri 18-Jul-14 17:49:54

I thought that too Fanny. Maybe a link to the alternative side of the argument would be good for MNHQ to show?

FannyFifer Fri 18-Jul-14 17:55:23

Most of it is at odds with recent promotion to treasury of Pritti Patel whose previous comments re Scotland are well known.
www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/tory-mp-priti-patel-sparks-1471711
#nothanks

OldLadyKnowsSomething Fri 18-Jul-14 17:56:31

It's just yet another repeat of their propaganda bollox. UK gvt have admitted they're on the No side, so don't/can't/won't give unbiased info.

Wonder how much we're all paying for this one? Bet it's not coming out of the BetterTogether/NoThanks campaign funding.

OldLadyKnowsSomething Fri 18-Jul-14 17:58:53

And to top that, it's an incredibly clunky and annoying site to use.

FannyFifer Fri 18-Jul-14 18:08:59

It's pretty bad.
No mention of the NHS, no wonder as being sold to all Dave's mates down south, amount UK gov spends on NHS has major implications on Scotland's block grant which means our NHS will suffer as well.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Fri 18-Jul-14 18:50:12

Its a load of bollocks. The site is obviously no way impartial as the UK government is against independence, the facts are either opinions or downright lies.

TheBogQueen Fri 18-Jul-14 18:58:50

"YouDecide has been designed so that you can drill down quickly and simply to get facts on the issues that matter to you."

But it's hugely biased. confused

PlasticPinkFlamingo Fri 18-Jul-14 19:03:32

But how is that different from the independence campaign's views? They don't have control over a lot of what they've promised. A lot of the campaign amounts to wishful thinking of things that would be nice to have but may not be deliverable.

I think these sorts of decisions probably aren't best decided by using an internet tool.

GermyElephant Fri 18-Jul-14 19:07:58

This page is a wealth of information on the referendum subject. It has been designed so that you can drill down quickly and simply to get facts on the issues that matter to you.

GermyElephant Fri 18-Jul-14 19:10:12

This link similarly provides facts on the issues that matter to you.

GermyElephant Fri 18-Jul-14 19:11:34

MNHQ can you please confirm whether or not the UK Government have paid for this post?

Yama Fri 18-Jul-14 19:12:49

I'm rather annoyed that my taxes have gone into producing such blatantly one-sided nonsense.

That tool angers me.

Yama Fri 18-Jul-14 19:14:43

The government one, not Germy's link.

TheBogQueen Fri 18-Jul-14 19:20:53

Yes if the Scottish government did the sane there would be uproar

GermyElephant Fri 18-Jul-14 19:21:13

The Child Maintenance Service operates across Great Britain, helping towards a child’s living costs if parents separate.

If Scotland became independent, a distinct and separate system could result in further complexity and costs.

Hmm. Clearly a new Scottish system could not possibly be fairer or easier to deal with than the remarkably excellent CSA.

OldLadyKnowsSomething Fri 18-Jul-14 19:26:12

Germy's links are excellent. Here's some more info with lots of sources. Sadly, not designed to be easy to drill down into, but to make you think a bit before making your mind up. (Or to confirm your bias if you're already a Yes grin )

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Fri 18-Jul-14 20:15:12

MNHQ can you please confirm whether or not the UK Government have paid for this post?

My guess is yes they did

"Please note: This topic is for discussions paid for by Mumsnet clients."
(Top of thread)

The UK government is paying for loads of referendum stuff at the moment,this, spam all over twitter, opinion polls...

FannyFifer Fri 18-Jul-14 20:29:20

Have you seen "Scottish" Labours crazy questionnaire yet, it's all over Twitter.
action.labour.org.uk/index.php/scotland-survey
They really just don't get it, which is great as Yes are going to win.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Fri 18-Jul-14 20:31:25

I've seen screenshots, I'm not giving them my email address to see it though. If that survey was on MN it would be ripped apart.

OldLadyKnowsSomething Fri 18-Jul-14 20:31:34

I did that Labour survey this afternoon; don't think they're going to get much meaningful data from it! grin

OldLadyKnowsSomething Fri 18-Jul-14 20:32:52

Make up an email address; there's no verification needed. I made up a name and used a false postcode too.

FannyFifer Fri 18-Jul-14 20:37:42

I may have filled in -several times- once.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Fri 18-Jul-14 20:38:31

<snort> That's made my evening grin Are we sure its not an elaborate spoof by a Yesser?

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