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Goose and Carrot, 6 December

(198 Posts)
Galena Fri 06-Dec-13 17:09:55

Let me open up!

Trigglesx Fri 06-Dec-13 17:43:29

Pick your poison. fgrin

Galena Fri 06-Dec-13 18:04:51

wine please. Off to the playgroup night out - but not arriving at the restaurant till 8:30 so won't be eating till 9... I'll be asleep by pudding!

I'm also driving so no wine in real life for me...

moosemama Fri 06-Dec-13 18:27:59

My tipple of choice this evening!

Enjoy your night out Galena.

Trigglesx Fri 06-Dec-13 18:38:08

I think a glass of wine and a good movie once DCs are asleep tonight. I need cheering up. Has been hellish couple days consisting of family and friends who have been saying "oh let us help you, don't try to do everything on your own" and then they utterly and completely step back and don't help and leave me in the lurch. New motto... don't expect help, so you won't be disappointed. hmm

Handywoman Fri 06-Dec-13 18:47:52

Exhausted with bad chest. Very ranty dd2. Busy weekend ahead including my bestie's 40th, we are playing a few choons (we are in a band ) at the party and rehearsing here tonight. I have prepared a spread including du pain , du vin et du Boursin! Will be squiffy by 2030h. Lord help the local childbearing women tomorrow! The big nite is tomorrow and I still need to buy Spanks to hold me in, and a birthday card ! Happy Weekend all ! Only two weeks of school left !!

SummerRain Fri 06-Dec-13 18:50:02

Evening. Dp has just arrived home to save me and we're about to order pizza. I made it through the day [rum]

Galena Fri 06-Dec-13 18:52:20

Glad you all made it through to this evening... DD has just gone up with DH for her bath. I will need to get changed soon for the (sober) night ahead. Ho hum.

moosemama Fri 06-Dec-13 18:54:40

Triggles that sounds very hard and really frustrating - I have 'people' that do that to me all the time and it drives me batty. I have adopted a very similar motto as a result. wine flowers

Handywoman, sorry to hear about your chest. Hope you are able to enjoy your evening tonight and have fun tomorrow night.

Summer, mine has just walked through the door too. I managed to get through the day without the sleep I was desperate for, but am fit to collapse now. Hope you can get some rest over the weekend.

Trigglesx Fri 06-Dec-13 18:59:20

moose sorry you're not feeling well - hope you're feeling better soon. Yes, part of it was my DD spectacularly letting me down and then making a nasty comment about it (rather in a "kick me when I'm done" vein tbh). I am supposed to be taking the boys to DGS's birthday party tomorrow and to be honest, the last thing I want to do is be anywhere near DD as I'm afraid I may just blow up and tell her that I didn't raise her to be such a spiteful cow. blush

Trigglesx Fri 06-Dec-13 19:07:10

DD's partner comes from a wealthy family, and sadly I think it's gone to her head a bit. He's lovely, but she has made a few pointed comments about getting out of the poky little flat (that she used to be grateful for and pleased with) and scathing comments about the neighbourhood we both live in (which is actually not a bad area IMO). She needs a reality check, and if she's not careful I will be giving it to her. hmm

PolterGoose Fri 06-Dec-13 19:07:32

That sounds so hard Triggles flowers

Have a good night Handy and Galena

moose and Summer hope you both get well soon

I managed to make 9 jars of marmalade today, fingers crossed it has set.

Trigglesx Fri 06-Dec-13 19:11:10

Galena have a lovely night out!

Summer hope you're better soon.

Polter 9 jars? Wow! I'm jealous of anyone that can make jam or marmalade. I think it's a lost art. I have a friend that can - she's just one of those "can do it all" types of people that make me wish I was so capable. Hope it's set for you. <ponders how to sneak into Polter's house and swipe some marmalade> fgrin

hazeyjane Fri 06-Dec-13 19:12:18

rrrraaaaaaaargh (pirate stylee)

back after bedtime.

Trigglesx Fri 06-Dec-13 19:17:57

I'll be relaxing over here by the fire.

Galena Fri 06-Dec-13 19:23:08

I have lots of homemade jam under the stairs made from the fruit from our garden. This year, however, we're using the fruit to make wine!

PolterGoose Fri 06-Dec-13 19:25:33

Triggles jam and marmalade are dead easy, they really are. This is a shelf in my larder after my first preserving frenzy shortly after moving here and being faced with a glut of plums that started me off on all this.

PolterGoose Fri 06-Dec-13 19:26:53

Hmm, wine, Galena, let me know how it goes, we've got a cellar that might be ideal for wine making...

SallyBear Fri 06-Dec-13 19:29:49

Marking my place. Need to throw boys into bed and collect the big two from their night out. Need a glass of wine, but holding out until they're home.

Trigglesx Fri 06-Dec-13 19:31:10

Hmmmm... now this IS interesting. Galena lives nearby... <pondering carefully here> I could feasibly swipe jam from her house. fgrin Must act nonchalant. smile there. that'll do it. grin

Wow Polter I've never tried making jam myself, although I've been there and sort of kind of helped when my friend made it. Wine making would be cool too.

Galena Fri 06-Dec-13 19:33:55

Wine is easy too - We've done wine from grapes 3 years running, and last year we added lots of forest-fruit juice too.

It's very drinkable and lethal as long as you are patient. The longer you take, the better the wine!

Galena Fri 06-Dec-13 19:35:34

Trigs, you'd be welcome to some - no sneaking around needed!

We have HUGE amounts of raspberry plus some plum, gooseberry, blackcurrant and strawberry (I think)

Trigglesx Fri 06-Dec-13 19:43:24

Oh Galena I've been meaning to ask - how is your DD doing? Recovering well?

Galena Fri 06-Dec-13 19:53:11
PolterGoose Fri 06-Dec-13 19:56:00

Just WOW Galena fgrin

ouryve Fri 06-Dec-13 20:01:23

I still have loads of last year's backbreakingcurrant jam!

Will definitely be having something fortifying once the boys are in bed. Had a freezing cold but vaguely pleasurable morning at the Christmas market, this morning - just the food bit, rather than the tat tent. The food's all in the Cathedral Cloisters, though and was well refrigerated. Treated myself to some lovely Ousburn coffee (and to the voice of the guy who roasts it - utterly delicious!) and assorted bread and cheese and a nice big piece of locally produced ham that should see the boys through a couple of days of Christmas.

After missing my bus by seconds, managed to complete the freezing my ass off routine killing half an hour before the next one. Got home to a call from school to say that DS2 had fallen over his own feet, on the yard, and gashed his head and bloody was going everywhere and he wouldn't let anyone put a steristrip on.

Went to pick up the boys, later on, to hear various kids relating the gory details to their parents! DS2 wasn't wearing his glasses. he was a bit wary and it turned out that no one had noticed that he'd bent the nose pieces. I had DS1 ranting at me because he wouldn't wear them and on the verge of refusing to walk home again. He also won't let us talk about it. He's insisting that DS2 had no accident, he didn't need first aid and we were just making it all up.

Thanks to the lollipop lady saying the she knew where she'd seen a coin lying around, we did get home, in reasonable time, but DS2 was really stimmy and wouldn't leave the fridge and freezer alone. Every time I spoke to him, DS1 was bloody sticking his own oar in. I ended up standing against the kitchen door, on the verge of tears, until DH got home!

Jacksterbear Fri 06-Dec-13 20:04:48

Home-made booze, yum. We are making sloe gin and blackberry brandy from fruit from the ILs garden. So wholesome and yet so delicious!

Good day on the whole (occasional day so no school yay), a biting incident aside (bit shocked as ds is not normally a biter but lashed out at a friend's 3yo ds who was winding him up blush).

Get well soon moose, Summer and any other poorly folk. thanks

Firsttimer7259 Fri 06-Dec-13 20:05:39

Oooh I'm all for the rum! Hi everyone - v impressed w the crafty types making jam and wine...Ive been wondering if I can pull it together enough to bake some small Christmas goodies to give out - we have so many people to be thankful for this year. Jury still out on that one. It's been a huge time of change just now - we spent at least 6 hours this week at appts - need to start school decisions. At least everyone is clear that dd better off in a ss.
Then I've applied for a job - had me in a big tizzy - but better now.
Your dd looks well Galina glad shes getting better. Wishing everyone easy times with bath and bed and the great flop onto sofa that comes after.

calmer now

Trigglesx Fri 06-Dec-13 20:06:05

aw Galena very cool! fgrin

Firsttimer7259 Fri 06-Dec-13 20:09:22

Squeeze for ourvye - plus all ypu poorlies. Off to booze n collapse

SummerRain Fri 06-Dec-13 20:19:47

Bless dp, he's brought me neurofen plus so I'm feeling slightly more human now. I chanced a look down my throat though and there's an ulcer on one of my tonsils [ick]

Ouryve [hugs] and wine Sounds like one of those days where all you can do is get them to bed and self medicate to forget. Hope he's ok after his bump, head wounds always bleed like fuck so I bet the other boys got a good show wink

Trigglesx Fri 06-Dec-13 20:20:40

ouryve so sorry you've had such a stressful day. Hope you can relax a little this evening now.

ouryve Fri 06-Dec-13 20:32:37

I'm about to go and pour myself a glass. When I've taken DS2's coat out of the dryer. It looked like he'd butchered an animal carcase in it!

hazeyjane Fri 06-Dec-13 20:35:05

Ouch Ouryve, to the head and the day. flowers

FistTimer, if you can get your hands on a bottle of Kraken, it is deeeelicious.

My FiL is staying for the night, dh has taken him to the carol concert at the chapel of the school he works for, it is a breathtakingly lovely thing, and dh has never managed to go, so I'm really glad he is able to take his dad.

hazeyjane Fri 06-Dec-13 20:36:01

blush apologies to FirstTimer for calling you FistTimer

TheNinjaGooseIsOnAMission Fri 06-Dec-13 20:36:17

how fab is that galena!! fsmile

the kids all seem to be hyped this evening, none of them are in bed yet [yawn] and I'm getting really bored of the hospital conformation service fhmm calling and disturbing my evening

moosemama Fri 06-Dec-13 20:37:25

wine ouryve.

Galena - Wow! grin

I'm crawling off to bed now folks. Hopefully the Nightnurse will do it's thing and I won't hear a thing till morning.

Night all.

ouryve Fri 06-Dec-13 20:37:55

I'll have to try the kraken. I got a bottle of the Sainsburys Taste the Difference Golden rum for the Christmas puds and it's lovely neat. Not at all harsh. And, unlike the branded stuff, doesn't give me a bad 'eed.

PolterGoose Fri 06-Dec-13 21:01:33

Sleep well moose

Double wine for ouryve

Good luck with the job First flowers

SummerRain Fri 06-Dec-13 21:02:56

Night moose flowers I'm planning on slumping on the couch as I'm so achey I wont sleep anyway.

Ouryve, wet it with cold water and pour loads of salt on the blood stains, works wonders. I have far too much experience removing blood stains hmm

autumnsmum Fri 06-Dec-13 21:10:31

Sorry to hear about all the illnesses dps birthday and he managed a walk to the park which for an agoraphobic is amazing .i want some kraken rim badly

autumnsmum Fri 06-Dec-13 21:11:57

Kraken rim sounds appallingly dubious!!!i meant kraken rum

hazeyjane Fri 06-Dec-13 21:15:34

What with Kraken rim and Fist Timer, I'm starting to wonder what sort of place this Goose and Carrot is!

ouryve Fri 06-Dec-13 21:37:50

Summer - Ecover delicates did the job just fine! It's a proper waterproof coat (Landsend sale bargain), so I can't use bio detergent on it, so I was a bit worried, but it seems the waterproofing worked in its favour and didn't let the blood soak in.

Ilisten2thesoundofdrums Fri 06-Dec-13 22:23:27

Evening everyone. It's Ds birthday today. How did I get to be the mum of a now teenager? Ds had a couple of friends over this afternoon and they were playing karaoke on the Wii u. Very eclectic music tastes. We don't have any microphones so they were so go g using the remotes as props.
Dd has laryngitis, a raging temp and has spent the day on the sofa. She never does that so i know she is really feeling rough. I just hope a good night's sleep works as we are going to the London Dungeons with several of Ds friend tomorrow and I need her well enough to come out with us all .
I hope everyone else who is I'll feels better soon.

ouryve Fri 06-Dec-13 22:37:33

Happy birthday to your DS and hope your DD feels better in the morning.

Firsttimer7259 Sat 07-Dec-13 06:52:43

Thread got me thinking about xmas gifts - wanted to make something small esp for people involved in dd care. Problem is it feels like hard work so I'm wondering about making cinder toffee (maybe some whisky added) in pretty gift bags. It'd be easy and inexpensive - also saw idea for homemade cards using a handprint to make Rudolph reindeer cards. That's about the level of craft dd can manage. Otherwise we could break out the glitter again. Thing is does it sound a bit pathetic? I would like to do something but the thought it more difficult baking makes my heart sink. Is it cheap of me? Well yes it is e cheap but is bad cheap or cheap but sweet?

youarewinning Sat 07-Dec-13 07:21:53

galena wow grin

Sorry to those feeling shit or dealing with shit.

I didn't make it here yesterday as slept most of evening and all night. Roll on Thursday when I have the last planned surgical intervention on my teeth and jaw. I'm hoping being in less pain will leave he less exhausted.

youarewinning Sat 07-Dec-13 07:24:10

First timer- I did gifts like that using chocolate from the tins when on offer. They were 2 tins for £6. Put in coloured cellophane, tie with ribbon and added a label DS had decorated? People really liked them.

SallyBear Sat 07-Dec-13 07:55:08

My poor DS4. He's been awake since about 2am. Looks exhausted and very wired. He's supposed to be out for four hours with his carer today. I will have to cancel her and hope that he will have a nap today. hmm

PolterGoose Sat 07-Dec-13 08:01:55

Poor ds4 Sally, fingers crossed for a nap...

youare have I missed something? Hope you feel better soon flowers

SallyBear Sat 07-Dec-13 08:14:21

Youare - what procedure are you having done?

moosemama Sat 07-Dec-13 08:44:07

Firsttimer your gift idea sounds lovely, but if you did want to do some really easy baking microwave chocolate brownies are the way to go. It takes about 5 minutes to mix them and 4 minutes to cook, then you just have to cut them into squares, pop them in pretty bags or boxes and wrap. Job done! grin

You are, sounds like you are having a tough time at the moment. flowers

Sally, hope ds manages to get some down-time and hopefully a nap.

Ds1 is wired since he went back to school on Thursday. The difference between the calm boy I had home with me for a week and the manic, hyper boy we've had back each evening is stark.

I woke up this morning with a sudden panic, when I realised that thanks to my family organising a family 'faux christmas' the weeked after dd's mid-week birthday - I am now stuffed for her party. Not only will I have to send invitations out before Christmas to give people enough time, but I am in danger of clashing with 'queen bee's' (girl number 1 from my post on the other thread) party by having it the weekend before. Dd will be 5 and has never had a birthday party before, so I promised she could this time. Was planning a small one, just 6 little girls to a fairy tea party, but it's being held at my Mum's house - which is where the family 'do' is. Dsis organised the 'faux christmas', chose the date and no-one bothered to tell me when it was. My niece is also not happy, because it's my great nephew's birthday the day before dd's and she's now in a similar position to us.

Of course all the friendship woes that are going on have now affected who to invite and I can see there being school-gate fall-out as a result. Eurgh! I hate all this. I only let my boys have two proper parties each, then we started taking them to Legoland instead ... and it's so much worse with girls. hmm

Christmas fair at ds2 and dd's school today. Dh has offered to take all three dcs, but I know they'll be disappointed if I don't go. Feeling a bit better this morning, think yesterday was the virus' crisis and I may be over the worst. Fingers crossed that means I may be able to escape for my annual Christmas shopping and lunch event with my elder sister tomorrow.

Galena Sat 07-Dec-13 08:47:06

Firsttimer, I used to be a teacher, and cinder toffee with a homemade card would have been very welcome! Some children would give me cakes, and depending whether they were nose-pickers, grubby, etc would determine whether I ended up eating them or not. However, since cinder toffee is an adult-make because it's hot, I would certainly have enjoyed it! smile

youarewinning Sat 07-Dec-13 08:58:59

I'm having an extraction. Last one! I have a terrible over and side bite which has caused all sorts of problems and pain in jaw (ear, head & neck!). I have built up muscle in my face to compensate for it - apparently according to the colonel in maxillo facial it's the most he's ever seen!
Therefore various teeth and sockets have cracked and they are making me partial dentures ( I have a temporary set ATM) which will hopefully help me find a bite and undo the muscle build up. Once the muscles have relaxed they'll know whether the muscles are holding my jaw 'at the limit we'll accept before surgery' or if without the muscle my jaw is not stable enough and will require surgery. It's possible there's cartilage damage.

youarewinning Sat 07-Dec-13 09:02:31

Sounds a bit more dramatic written down than it actually is! There are people here suffering far worse. Just pain from a back tooth that is cracked in half coupled with period pain has made me a right whinged the past 2 days. blush

SallyBear Sat 07-Dec-13 09:31:52

We have lots of jaw issues here. DD has been using therabite to stretch her muscles in her newly extended reconstructed jaw. She had bone grafted to the mandible for length and the TMJ was totally rebuilt this summer. She also had several teeth out.

youarewinning Sat 07-Dec-13 10:02:12

blimey sally. bless her. I have been diagnosed with TMJ syndrome. I've had a look at the therabite and think I'll discuss this with my dentist - thanks for the information. (I did the 3 finges test and I can just about do it but my jaw was spasming hmm) The problem I've noticed is that I smoothe my food and don't chew properly which I think has developed from my jaw being painful to open and close.

I've never been sure whether I should be pleased or not its on the border of surgical interevention.

SallyBear Sat 07-Dec-13 10:21:37

Its horrible having TMJ problems. Her surgeon grafted bone to rebuild hers. She needed the costochondral and ramus rebuilding on both sides. They used her rib bone and cartilage.

SallyBear Sat 07-Dec-13 10:24:48

I should add though that therabite works. Its expensive, but it gets good results.

TheNinjaGooseIsOnAMission Sat 07-Dec-13 10:37:21

urgh sallybear, hope ds is on the mend soon brew

firsttimer, sallybear recommended these as being really easy, although it's going to be next year until I get round to trying it!

ilisten, happy birthday to ds for yesterday fsmile

going to try for a quiet weekend as the dcs are just getting hyped with all the christmas stuff going on, not entirely sure it will successful though grin

youarewinning Sat 07-Dec-13 11:55:34

Oh sallybear what a star she is going through all that. I'm lucky its not that bad atm. Hopefully this work will prevent it getting any worse - I may even see a little improvement.

homework Sat 07-Dec-13 12:40:59

Hi , sorry to hear about everyone whose poorly, hope you all on the mend.
Happy birthday to all kids who are celebrating .

Not much happening here at moment , which is good , first science test grade c which really pleased about as no intervention in place still, so didn't get any of his access arrangements . Other subjects grades not so hot at moment but still have 18 months to go before real event .
Don't thing they get yet that he can do better when given verbal answers rather than having to write stuff himself , can never get same content down on paper. Which is why his scribe in exams is so important for us.

SallyBear Sat 07-Dec-13 13:53:54

First timer definitely try those chocolates. They taste amazing. I tend to increase my chocolate amounts when I make them.

Jacksterbear Sat 07-Dec-13 16:29:50

Ooh those chocs look really nice SallyBear (and match my level of baking competence grin).

SummerRain Sat 07-Dec-13 18:54:55

I make truffles every year for xmas, they're dead easy. I highly recommend adding a bit of icing sugar and some ground nuts (almond/hazelnut) to the mix... Much lighter and praline like.

My mother gets very excited about them each year, I almost didn't get my xmas dinner the year I forgot to bring them with me grin

I'm still feeling rotten, loaded up on neurofen plus and got the shopping done at least, and bought our xmas tree. It may need to wait to be decorated though as I'm feeling worse than ever now, my ears are hurting too now sad

SallyBear Sat 07-Dec-13 19:01:35

I'm thinking about making truffles this year too. I thought I'd do a mixture. Great teacher presents.

hazeyjane Sat 07-Dec-13 19:14:16

Last year I made biscotti, chopped up small in bags with a label decorated by girls.

Poor ds had a terrible night, woke up drenched in sweat (no temp though), crying and not letting us touch him. He slept today in the buggy, but is now wired - he is all out of whack, and I'm not sure why.

Had an uber christmassy moment earlier, watching Elf with the girls whilst making paper chains and baking stollen.

Sorry you are still feeling crap.thanks

SallyBear Sat 07-Dec-13 19:35:42

DS4 has managed the whole day after so little sleep last night. Hoping that he will pass out and stay passed out tonight!!! I am currently watching strictly, crocheting a rainbow striped blanket and enjoying a glass of wine. I know how to live! grin

hazeyjane Sat 07-Dec-13 19:41:14

Poor ds4, hope he is ok.

When ds goes to sleep, I hope to be doing similar, (replace crocheting blanket with making sheep costume) - Rock and Roll!

signandsmile Sat 07-Dec-13 20:07:59

hi all, if galena and poulter want to swap I have made red currant jelly with port, (and if ellenjane remembers) some more of the 'blow your head off' chilli and garlic chutney... grin

went to the christmas market in bath (day trip) on Tues, which was lovely, (had planned a couple of nights away, everything set up for dh and ds and then dh had such a bad fall he called me home... sad I got as far as chippenham... sad (for those who are not local, thats about 15 miles..) I think we are at the point of him not being safe to be left in charge of ds, i knew it would come, but its a bummer, back to adult social care.. haven't had an assessment from them for about 3 yrs, and what they offered then was poorish, so go and poke them for direct payments, hey ho!

mind you we did have a good sensible conversation about the need for a wheelchair, so need to get that moving too.

ds has been so excited about the christmas decs, bless him, and managed a haircut with a new person today, so thats been fab!

Firsttimer7259 Sat 07-Dec-13 20:12:09

Bought some crafty things snd will try my hand of the chocs as well - they look so pretty and easy to make I hope

SummerRain Sat 07-Dec-13 20:15:54

Sign, sorry to hear you dh is deteriorating. It must be quite difficult adjusting to his reduced capabilities for both of you flowers It's good he's acknowledged the need for a wheel chair at least, I hope adult social care are some help this time round.

Hazey and Sally, fingers crossed your little ones sleep tonight and are feeling better tomorrow flowers

TheNinjaGooseIsOnAMission Sat 07-Dec-13 20:33:04

sorry sign, that must be so tough for you all thanks well done to ds, he's changed so much over the last couple of years smile

SummerRain Sat 07-Dec-13 20:51:27

Oh ffs, I just electrocuted myself with Christmas lights.

I give up, the universe clearly has it in for me this week.

My fucking hand is throbbing now wine

zzzzz Sat 07-Dec-13 21:29:46

We made grape jelly (ie jam not pudding) this year, 'twas yummy. I thought Jan/Feb was Seville orange time? I miss it every year, but since I am the only one who likes marmalade here it doesn't matter, I just suck it up and wait for the next year.

I'm having a shit time. I took ds for yet another assessment. I find professionals utterly depressing. I feel like I am the only one on earth who gets ds and it is just so depressing.

Dd seems good if subdued.

My joints hurt and I am very cross.

SummerRain Sat 07-Dec-13 22:37:26

Zzzzz wine I've come to the conclusion that most professionals are idiots who really don't deserve the title. Thankfully in our case the only one who really mattered in terms of dx is also one of the few who actually has an iota of common sense.

I think for the most part we parents are the only ones who get our kids and the unwillingness of most professionals to acknowledge that fact is what makes the fight so hard. If they were just willing to listen instead of assuming their doctorate makes them some sort of omniscient god things would be a lot easier.

youarewinning Sat 07-Dec-13 22:56:10

Oh FFS. DS has been obviously pissed off about something which I now know why. There's a lad in his class - has been in his class since year 2. Have the same name and my DS gets called his initials as a nn as other boy is always in trouble and my DS couldn't handle having his name shouted or on the board.
There's been an incident this week where this boy actually poked my DS. He reported it to DH who was teaching and she did nothing but pick up a book and ignore him. (According to DS) he told his CT the following day.

Now it appears this boy is joining 'lunchtime club' in the ICT suite and DS is anxious he'll pick on him there. There was originally just 2 boys and their 2 buddies but now it's 6 of them.

I'm going to have to tell his teacher his 'space' at lunchtime to regroup is not going to work when he has to share it with at least 1 boy he's very anxious of.

I just skated in two ice shows at my local rink smile

I am so, so proud of myself and everyone else. I think my Granddad was watching over us and would've been very proud.

SummerRain Sun 08-Dec-13 00:14:31

Well done lollipop smile

My Christmas tree is decorated (and I managed not to do myself any more damage!) fgrin

autumnsmum Sun 08-Dec-13 07:55:42

Good start not ds has declared he wants to stay in and play mine craft and not go to mil for lunch

youarewinning Sun 08-Dec-13 08:22:43

Well done lollipop. smile

PolterGoose Sun 08-Dec-13 09:20:36

sign that does sound hard flowers

lolli well done grin

zzzzz I don't bother using Sevilles, every now and then I have a glut of oranges so I just use those, works fine

Firsttimer7259 Sun 08-Dec-13 12:47:22

Nice tips thanks - the chocs look v pretty so might try those. The handprint cards are turning out harder ti make than expected dd just wants to taste the paint and makes fist prints rather than handprints. Trip to hobbycraft was hard - id love to do craft things with her but she's too young still sad and she screamed and headband her way round the shop...

Big sigh at everyone with things to be cross about. I've just had gigantic snickers after rubbish shopping day.

SummerRain Sun 08-Dec-13 13:11:47

Dp has ordered me to stay in bed and rest but I don't have anything to read and I'm bored sad But he's right, if I get up I'll start doing stuff and end up feeling worse like last night.

hazeyjane Sun 08-Dec-13 16:13:37

Glad you have been ordered to bed, best place!

First, brew to go with Snickers. We had a trip out with fil yesterday, and went for coffee, he was quite taken a back at how much people stared when ds was doing his flappy spinny eyes closed dance (we were well away from passing traffic!) It made me realise that a.ot of the time I am oblivious to the stares, unless he starts wailing or head banging or lying down on the floor.

Craft wise, ds can't cope with the hand painting thing, because he hates the paint on his hands. He loves pouring glitter out of pots though, maybe ds could do some glittering. I splodge glue around, the glitter is transferred to spice pots (the sort with holes) because the holes are bigger, and he can't shake hard enough to get the glitter out of the normal glitter shakers. He makes a godawful mess, but it is a dry mess that doesn't involve the stickiness that ds hates!

Zzzzz, thanks it does seem to be a rare thing when a professional 'gets' your child, that wouldn't be so bad if they were more willing to listen to what the parents tell them.

hazeyjane Sun 08-Dec-13 16:14:08

And well done Lollipop, sound

Ilisten2thesoundofdrums Sun 08-Dec-13 18:15:39

Healing wishes to all those still feeling under the weather. We had a great trip out yesterday for Ds birthday. We had 3 as boys and another couple of friends too . They got on fabulously and had a great time much to my relief. It's been a very quiet day here today. Dd's voice still hasn't come back but her temperature is not as high so I'm hoping that she might be ok again for school tomorrow.
I am in awe of all of you making things for Christmas.. I really must get my act together

Ilisten2thesoundofdrums Sun 08-Dec-13 22:18:08

Healing wishes to all those still feeling under the weather. We had a great trip out yesterday for Ds birthday. We had 3 as boys and another couple of friends too . They got on fabulously and had a great time much to my relief. It's been a very quiet day here today. Dd's voice still hasn't come back but her temperature is not as high so I'm hoping that she might be ok again for school tomorrow.
I am in awe of all of you making things for Christmas.. I really must get my act together

SummerRain Mon 09-Dec-13 11:31:58

OK... someone needs to kick me into action.

I'm supposed to be ringing ds1's old community OT today as the school need a report on his hypermobility to apply for resources and the CAMHS OT hasn't even seen him yet. But I'm having one of those days about the phone blush I've scrolled to her number 5 times now and backed out of the phone book again. I need to do this as the school are ringing me tomorrow to find out if she'll help and I was supposed to do this weeks ago. FFS... sometimes I really hate my brain angry

PolterGoose Mon 09-Dec-13 11:35:15

Summer can you email or write? I've done that when I just can't face the phone (which is often).

I've got the lurgy, phoned in sick to work and feeling a bit pathetic really.

moosemama Mon 09-Dec-13 11:44:16

Summer, I have the same problem with the phone. Is there any chance someone else could make the call for you? Sorry, I can't remember if you have a dp/dh, but mine sometimes makes calls in his lunchtime for me if I'm having one of those days.

If dh really can't find time to make the call, I have to work on myself to reinforce the fact that, in reality, I'm only going to get through to the receptionist/secretary and the person I need to speak to will probably have to call me back. Then I give myself a time to have made the call by and leave the phone and my notes about the call on the kitchen table while I go and do something that brings down my anxiety levels. I usually end up rushing up to the phone at the very last second and making the call without letting myself think about it - hence needing the notes, as I would totally forget what I needed to say otherwise.

I wish I could make the call for you, but I don't think I'd be much help. blush

Definitely try emailing if you can, but make sure you put 'Urgent' in the subject line.

Polter, sorry you have been struck down with the dreaded lurgy. Hope you can rest up and take care of yourself today. brew

I'm feeling a lot better today. Even managed to take the dogs for a decent walk this morning. Am now sitting here thinking about all the presents I have to drag downstairs for sorting and wrapping. I am so in denial about getting everything done. blush

SummerRain Mon 09-Dec-13 11:44:18

I can't find an email address anywhere (bloody antiquated Irish healthcare system being what it is there's a good chance she doesn't even have a work email). I normally email or text for everything. If I can't get my head in gear I'll do up a letter tonight and post it tomorrow and tell the school a little white lie and say I couldn't get through.

I can normally force myself when it's really necessary but I'm still not recovered from this bug and just can't face it right now.

Sorry you're down with a bug too, brew, biscuit and a duvet in front of some crappy tv... ignore the world for a few hours flowers

moosemama Mon 09-Dec-13 11:48:00

Cross posted.

I know just how you are feeling and it's horrible. Give yourself a break, one more day isn't going to matter in the long-run. Tell the school you couldn't get through and will keep trying, but have dropped a letter in the post as a back-up plan. brew

PolterGoose Mon 09-Dec-13 11:49:40

Thanks flowers I'm not that bad, but didn't sleep well and just a bit exhausted from ds's grrrrrr'ness all weekend.

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who struggles with the phone. I'm fine at work, it's like I step into a different me professionally confused

SummerRain Mon 09-Dec-13 12:01:29

Dp is here but he's completely and utterly useless for this sort of thing, I even manage his prescriptions and he has no dealings with anything to do with the boys.

Weirdly I'm fine ringing call centres and the like, but anything personal I can't do. I'm so bad my mother still makes calls for me sometimes blush
Thanks for the reassurance though, it's nice to know it's not just me

moosemama Mon 09-Dec-13 12:34:00

Polter I was the same when I worked. I could do anything with my professional hat on, then come home and not be able to make a simple call to the local takeaway.

Hope you can catch up on some sleep today.

Summer, my Mum makes calls for me too. She usually has to book my GP and hospital appointments, as that's a particular stumbling block for me. Strangely I can usually do it for the dcs, but only when they're really ill. I still struggle with booking routine appointments in advance.

SummerRain Mon 09-Dec-13 12:37:43

Yeah, me too. If the kids need a scrip I can ring no bother but I've been stalling on making my smear appointment booking for months, not because of the appointment as it actually doesn't bother me but because of the bloody phone call!

The thing is my mother would do this call if I asked but she hasn't a clue whats needed and has never me the OT so it wouldn't work... I really just have to do it myself!

Ugh, tomorrow's another day right? blush

hazeyjane Mon 09-Dec-13 12:54:23

Sometimes when I have that kind of frozen by brain sludge day, and can't do any of the phone calls etc, I make a list, which I then promise myself I will do the next day. I don't know why it works, but it makes me feel better.

Photo of ds, who has just fallen asleep for the 3rd time todayconfused. I was just popping upstairs to get his boots to go to preschool, and came back down to find him like this. After his recent wierd nights, I am guessing he is coming down with something.

hazeyjane Mon 09-Dec-13 12:54:49


SummerRain Mon 09-Dec-13 12:58:10

Awww, poor little lamb.

Hopefully a snooze will help him shake off whatever bug he's got.

PolterGoose Mon 09-Dec-13 13:16:01

Oh bless, he is such a cute thing

PolterGoose Mon 09-Dec-13 13:16:57

Sorry, 'thing' sounds wrong in writing, sounded right in my head confused

zzzzz Mon 09-Dec-13 13:21:11

Oh put the child to bed hazey he's far to cute to be let out.

hazeyjane Mon 09-Dec-13 13:23:47

Preschool cancelled, he is now curled up on his fleece asleep on my lap, whilst I drink coffee, eat Lidl's finest mini stollen and watch Rise Of The Guardians. This is the life!

He is a very cute thing.

We got some of those lidl's mini stollen, they've not made it to christmas <shoves last one into mouth>

hope ds is on the mend soon hazey

ds2's nativity on wednesday, he's the innkeeper but has no lines so it could be interesting, maybe getting his point across through interpretive dance who knows fgrin

hazeyjane Mon 09-Dec-13 13:47:48

I don't think these are going to make it to the end of the day, ninja. They were left outside the door by a Lidl's loving friend this morning, and they are a bit too mortise.

I love the idea of the innkeepers interpretive dance. Ds is supposed to be dressed as a shepherd, and his preschool are signing the songs, ds will probably be curled up on his 1-1s lap hiding under his tea towel head dress.

moosemama Mon 09-Dec-13 14:23:30

Aw hazey, he is so totally munchable. Enjoy your cuddle and hope he's better soon.

My puppy has just shredded about 25 ft of that brown paper Amazon pack out their boxes with - in my living room. You cannot believe the level of devastation, but he having such a fantastic time that I hadn't the heart to stop him! grin

Dd apparently got a merit mark for 'blowing Mrs X's socks off' with the volume of her line delivery during rehearsals last week. Can't say I'm surprised, with two older brothers to compete with, she seems to do everything at full volume. hmm grin She has her nativity on Wednesday and Thursday this week.

Oh pants, now Pip's eating the paper so I'm going to have to get off my butt and tidy it up. Dogs! Why on earth do we have 'em? grin

youarewinning Mon 09-Dec-13 18:31:51

Awwwww Hazey - your DS is totally scrummy looking!

Here's a turn up for the books - I rang DS school this morning to say he seemed anxious ATM but wasn't sure why etc! just ask them to tell teacher and he'd been sneezing all morning so allergy! illness! worried? Said call me if any probs.
Get phone all from DHT and phone call starts 'just to let you know DS involved in an incident earlier' so of course I'm thinking what did he do?

No, another child was hurting him and picking on him, DS --legged it--walked away, sought out an adult and was able to explain what happened when asked. shock apparently this was before school when breakfast club should have been there as they drop them off. School have said they will have a word and he can go into reception because DS doesn't go out alone during school time as needs adult support. I'm really proud of him smile

PolterGoose Mon 09-Dec-13 18:41:47

Well done mini-youare fgrin

My ds has been extremely (for him) calm tonight, despite having horrid supply this morning who it turns out doesn't let him sit in 'his' seat (for the last 3+ years he has an allocated seat while others move around him) and having around the field cross country running which he hates and is always last. When we got home I pointed out that just because I don't have blood dripping that I am still ill so he needed to be kind, he even asked 'can I do anything for you?' shock unfortunately there wasn't anything he could do but it was a lovely surprise to be asked fsmile

Galena Mon 09-Dec-13 19:10:25

Hope DS is feeling better, hazey

Well done Poltergosling and MiniYouAre

I'd love some advice. Now, I know if you've seen one child with ASD, you've seen one child with ASD and all children are different, etc. but maybe someone can give some advice...

My friend's son goes to the same school as DD. He was late to talk and has always been... quirky. He is now 4 and there are question marks over Aspergers/something else but no-one willing to give a diagnosis. He is struggling with the whole school thing. Preschool was in a special school, in a nurturing environment with a handful of more severely affected children, and he coped. He screams at drop-off, hates the bell, kind of copes through the day, doesn't eat lunch, and then completely loses the plot at home.

This weekend has been hellish apparently and mum seems to think it's related to school. I know some of you have children who visibly 'cope' at school and then release all the tension at home. Is there anything she can do to make home life more pleasant and able to be coped with? She takes him to the park some afternoons after school to try to run some aggression off, but it doesn't always work.

PolterGoose Mon 09-Dec-13 19:19:22

Galena can you ask her to post?

I've found with ds that he needs to come straight out of school, minimal conversation and straight home to decompress with crap food and a DVD. Asking about school can make it worse. I think she needs to push more for assessment, children who mask well really need that diagnosis for schools to support needs. Can you give her the usual advice? Read stuff, make notes, keep a diary and video behaviours that either are very typical of her ds or are odd or are only done at home. Is she aware she can apply for statement and for DLA? I could go on for ages, would be much better if she posted I think?

Galena Mon 09-Dec-13 20:24:13

Erm... She swings between wanting to ignore it all and wanting support. I don't think she would post because that would acknowledge that she thinks there is a problem, if you see what I mean? I have to try to find ways of helping which allow her to stick her head in the sand if that's what she feels like on that day.

She told me today that his DLA award from when he was younger and non-verbal is about due for renewal and that 'of course' she wasn't going to try renewing it as she felt a fraud for claiming it. I did point out that he runs out in front of cars, doesn't sleep, eats a very restricted diet, wets and soils at home, spins, flaps, can't cope with noise, gets obsessive about certain things, etc and therefore requires more support than a 'typical' child of his age. I don't know if she will renew, but I hope so.

The Ed Psych is coming in to observe him after Christmas, and there was talk of getting a statement inplace for Y1 by the class teacher, but this was then completely shot down by the Senco.

Handywoman Mon 09-Dec-13 20:28:33

Had a wonderful weekend with friends, gig was truly magical. Party amazing. But the late night took it's toll and this morning I ended up at GP who put me straight on a nebuliser (asthmatic) and gave me antibiotics and steroid tablets. Called in sick as I also had to take dd2 to see ENT Consultant. Finally sat down at 2pm! Am hoping steroids kick in soon. Back to work tomorrow.

Finally got the full report from Paed/specialist SALT. Very thorough. Nhs really came through for us (after four years!) I have now realized since reading the report that dd2 does in fact talk quite loudly quite often!!

dd2 has another ear op on the horizon. This will be her fourth ear op. And hoping and praying it's her last.

zzzzz Mon 09-Dec-13 20:38:41

I find bath and change into pj's gives a good cut off and relax. Followed by TV/DVD/Lego. Dd3 needs activities and is relentless.

PolterGoose Mon 09-Dec-13 20:53:59

Galena perhaps you could mention that someone you know wink has a similar child and found sensory/OT intervention really helpful for practical stuff, recommend the book 'The Out of Sync Child'. Often parents find practical stuff that isn't about diagnosis more safe IYSWIM?

Handy glad you had a good time, sorry about the aftermath, hope you're feeling better flowers

moosemama Mon 09-Dec-13 21:38:44

Galena, similar to what others have said here. Ds comes straight in, straight up the stairs and puts his pjs on. Drink, snack and into computer time, which is his way of destressing. Once that's over he's a lot calmer. On days where anything messes with that routine he's a nightmare and we all pay the price.

Handy, pleased you had a good time at your friend's birthday gig, but sorry to hear how poorly you are as a result. Can you take a couple more days off to recover?

Handywoman Mon 09-Dec-13 22:02:52

Thanks moose, guess I should but I hate getting my clinics covered, and love my team and, well there's the stupid scoring system with absence in the NHS... none of those are particularly good reasons! But I've pulled out of being on call tonight though.

moosemama Mon 09-Dec-13 22:09:44

Please think about it. It sounds like you are in a pretty bad way and if you don't take care of yourself now, you know it could end up much worse.

You are such a lovely person to be thinking about everyone else, but sometimes you have to put yourself first.

Sorry to sound like such a nag - but I have seen my dniece go through similar so many times and if she doesn't allow herself to stop and recover, she always ends up in hospital.

SummerRain Mon 09-Dec-13 23:38:16

Galena, your friends ds sounds quite similar to ds2 and ds1s psychiatrist very gently pointed out to me when I was dithering about referral on the grounds that I was trying to convince myself its all tied to his speech 'there's clearly something more going on there and the earlier he's diagnosed the more help we can give you as a family'

It was hard having it pointed out to me so bluntly that no, ds2 isn't within the realms of normal behaviour. But at the same time it was a relief to have somebody who didn't pussy foot around the issue but spelled out to me in kind terms that ds2 does have issues but that there is support out there for us.

It sounds like your friend is in the same place, deep down she knows but as soon as she verbalises it and goes down the assessment route it becomes real and she's trying to delay that moment. All you can do as a friend is continue to gently aknowledge his issues whilst showing her some of the supports that are out there for when she's ready.

Galena Tue 10-Dec-13 07:02:48

Thanks all. There are a variety of professionals involved - a different ed psych, various psychologists, paediatrician, etc, but noone is willing to assess for diagnosis. They ( and therefore she) swing between saying it's just bad parenting and that there is something . They've said he'll probably be diagnosed with something when he's older, but that's as much as they will do at the moment.

SummerRain Tue 10-Dec-13 09:07:34

Most of ds2's professionals are the same. It was ds1s CAMHS psyche who actually came out and said it (as I was trying to refuse a referral to him).

Ds2s psychologist used give me parenting manuals on potty training and dealing with tantrums and offered me a parenting course hmm

SallyBear Tue 10-Dec-13 11:24:50

I have 14 year old twins today!! Doesn't seem that long ago when DD and DS1 were babies!

SallyBear Tue 10-Dec-13 11:25:06
zzzzz Tue 10-Dec-13 11:30:40

Beautiful sally . If that's dd at the top she is not allowed eyeliner or men will be falling at her feet.

Galena Tue 10-Dec-13 11:31:12

Happy birthday, BearCubs!

PolterGoose Tue 10-Dec-13 11:39:21

Happy birthday bear-twins cake cake

SallyBear Tue 10-Dec-13 12:02:36

Yes zzzzz that is indeed DD at the top. Bless her. She thinks make up is dreadful stuff, and don't get her started on boys!

Happy days. smile

SummerRain Tue 10-Dec-13 12:12:04

cake Happy birthday Baby-Bears cake

ouryve Tue 10-Dec-13 16:07:42

I'm loving the adorable pictures!

DS1 has an iffy tummy. I'm hoping it doesn't progress into anything worse. Still not used to him having diarrhoea but not coughing all the time.

I'm PMSy and have the beginnings of a PMSy cold. Pushing the buggy up the hill was bloody hard work.

Jacksterbear Tue 10-Dec-13 16:32:49

Happy bday little bears.

ouryve snap re pms. Hope yr ds1 isn't coming down with a bug.

So proud of ds today. Got through his nativity play without incident, sang all the words and delivered his one line perfectly. Unbelievable step forward from previous school performances which have involved him running off stage / refusing to go on stage / removing his costume while on stage / lying down on the stage... you get the picture! smile

ouryve Tue 10-Dec-13 16:36:04

I'm hoping he's not, too, Jackster. I have a hair appointment, tomorrow and he has a visit to make, on Thursday.

ouryve Tue 10-Dec-13 16:37:05

Oh - and I get the picture. That was DS1 in his last Chritsmas performance. 5 years ago!

signandsmile Tue 10-Dec-13 18:44:43

Happy birthday bear cubs!, and brew cake and sympathy for all the unwell ones,
took dh to GP today as he (gp) has been requested to complete form for DWP, GP was fab, but its always horrid to got thru all the stuff that can't be done, (know you all 'get' that), also shocked us a bit as asked if we wanted referral for electric wheelchair for dh, he's only just got head round haivng one at all. GP was fab, and 'gets it'

also gp said prepare selves for refusal (IB and DLA into Universal credit) and appeal, beggars belief that someone who got DLA life award 20 yrs ago for degnerative condition, for which there is still no cure may loose this.. what direction do they think his health will have taken in the last 20 years????!!!! shock angry

moosemama Tue 10-Dec-13 19:42:43

Happy Birthday Bear Cubs! grin (Shameless purloining of sign's words, but couldn't put it any better myself. blush)

Sign, glad your GP is so good and 'gets it', but flowers for what must have been a very hard appointment for you both.

As for the DLA thing, I'm furious for you. My Uncle was refused and declared fit for work, despite being incapacitated by a serious spinal injury sustained in a motorbike crash and having serious emphysema. He can barely move either physically or because of his breathing problems and they made him attend a centre that's up a huge flight of stairs with no lift access. They called to ask if there was an alternative and were told no. He went and took an hour to get up the stairs on his backside and because he managed to get there, the declared him fit for work - bastards! angry

Ds1 has just come home and told us he had what sounds like a fairly comprehensive SALT assessment at school today. Now wondering if they're going to share the results with us, as haven't a clue, given it's an indie school that doesn't tell us much at the best of times. He said he found the inference test ok at first, but it got harder and harder and he really struggled towards the end. He hadn't a clue what semantics were but thought he'd done ok on that and that he'd done tests involving looking at a picture and working out what was going on, including looking at a picture of the aftermath of a robbery, deducing what exactly had happened and who did it.

He's never had a SALT assessment before, as our community SALT only deals with functional language issues, saw him for two minutes and said - 'Well, he's obviously very verbal - so he doesn't need us."

I have mixed feelings about it. Part of me is worried he will have done so well that they'll start questioning his statement - the other part is just desperate to know what his results were and feeling really unsettled about them knowing while we don't, iyswim.

SallyBear Tue 10-Dec-13 22:18:30

Thank you everyone. I've had a nice day. My littlest DS was a shepherd in his nativity and the twins have had a great evening with family.

happy pictures

hazeyjane Tue 10-Dec-13 22:22:24

Happy Birthday to your little (well not so little) bears. You have very gorgeous children, Sallybear.

Knackered here after an awful night last night (ds up until 11, despite 2 doses of melatonin, then spent the whole night coughing), and dd2 being up all evening tonight. She has finally gone to bed, but now I a, feeling all wired!

SallyBear, your DTs look so alike! I don't know why that should surprise me. smile I guess despite being different genders and with different SN etc. but they are so obviously brother and sister, the same cute smile. Little bro, too.

SallyBear Wed 11-Dec-13 07:14:40

Thank you! They had a wonderful day yesterday. Though seeing as you have seen three of my brood you should really see a photo of DS3 with his best friend Toby!

SallyBear Wed 11-Dec-13 09:07:20

I am feeling sick to my stomach with DS1. At what point will he learn the hard lessons about money? We have had an issue with warhammer over the last two years. Its expensive shite and is specifically aimed at nerdy Aspie teens. Two years ago he wanted a Warhammer graphic novel from Games Workshop at £30. I said no and got it from eBay for £5. A year later he went to the GW and spent £30 of his own money on another Warhammer book. I was really angry with him. He hasn't done it since, so I thought he learned his lesson. This morning I see an email from his iTunes account to say that he has bought another warhammer ebook costing £30. I haven't told DH as I know he will go mental. Basically it was his birthday iPod vouchers that he spent, so his money. But still he doesn't seem to understand that its over priced tat that he will look at a handful of times and then be finished with. What would you do?

I'm tempted to leave him to spend until he's broke and then point out the error of his ways. Frustrating!

PolterGoose Wed 11-Dec-13 09:56:32

Is it his money Sally? Does he paint miniatures too?

<looks at huge pile of Warhammer books and White Dwarf magazines, steps around boxes of Skaven, Elves and Tyrranids>

Dp and ds do Warhammer, it is expensive, but it's been really good for ds's fine motor skills and their relationship, I'm hoping it will give him an 'in' with other geeky types when he gets to secondary...

PolterGoose Wed 11-Dec-13 09:58:07

Thinking about it, how about suggesting he gets himself a subscription to White Dwarf instead of buying the books? Do you have a Games Workshop nearby? They do classes and events.

SallyBear Wed 11-Dec-13 10:10:35

A subscription?? Ooh. I will go and look. The problem is that he is such a "money burning a hole in my pocket" kid. He gets that from me sadly.

Is the subscription online or a magazine?? Thanks smile

As far as your DS is concerned Polter, he will without a doubt find a clique of fellow warhammer/Aspie/nerdy types at Secondary school. God knows my DS did! wink

PolterGoose Wed 11-Dec-13 10:17:04

I am hoping so Sally, he's having big friendship issues at the moment and I'm so hoping the bigger pool of potential friends at secondary will mean he finds his niche.

Subscription details here it's bloody expensive but says there's an in-store subscription deal, might be worth looking into.

zzzzz Wed 11-Dec-13 10:24:21

The only way to learn the value of money is to earn it and spend it. It is one of the few things I can say with complete conviction my parents were brilliant at.
Let him spend it all and be broke for a year or so or you are going to be the brakes on his spending forever.

SallyBear Wed 11-Dec-13 10:31:43

Wise words zzzzz smile

hazeyjane Wed 11-Dec-13 11:10:23

Just having a pain au raisin and cappuccino in Caffe Nero as a pat on the back for making myself go for a smear. I was 2 years late having itblush, a combination of having ds, and my utter fear of anything where I might hear bad news (i suffer from Ostrich syndrome!) Last week I made myself book a smear and a blood test for thyroid, diabetes and anaemia, in a bid to try and conquer my anxiety over it. Smear done, blood test tomorrow!

zzzzz Wed 11-Dec-13 11:37:17

hazey I am a similar procrastinator <though it's been much longer than 2 years> WELL DONE cake

autumnsmum Wed 11-Dec-13 12:21:02

Hazey your a braver woman than me I hide the letters ! Lovely pics of dcs

ouryve Wed 11-Dec-13 13:00:36

Finally got my mop trimmed, this morning. It was beginning to look a bit grannified.

Stopped off at Tesceurgh, on the way home. Unfortunately, they no longer stock the lovely Anton Berg Marzipan that I like, so it looks like I'll be making my own. To add to the disappointment, the morning's fog reappeared, thicker than ever, while i was in there. To add insult to injury, the bus home was 15 minutes late. I was bloody freezing. My hands and legs are still burning and I've been home 45 minutes!

On the bright side, they had Pampers Underjams down to £1.75 a packet, so if anyone here is in need of big pull ups, it's probably worth stopping by your own Tesceurgh to stock up. I could only carry 4 packs on the bus, but if I'd been with DH, I'd have got more. He's got Friday off, so I might send him in to look for some more.

ouryve Wed 11-Dec-13 13:03:31

well done, Hazey!

NoHaudinMaWheest Wed 11-Dec-13 13:11:11

Hazey good for you. I must say the best bit of having a hysterectomy was being able to answer the letters saying 'I don't need this any more'.
(Bit of a drastic solution though).

Belated happy birthday to your 2 Sally.

Moose hope you get the results of the SALT soon. You must be entitled to them.

Sign angry about the possibility of your DH losing his benefits. If he isn't entitled who on earth is? And there really should be no question about it. Glad you have a good GP though.

Talking of procrastination I have a dilemma of my own. I always write a brief Christmas letter to go with my cards updating on family news. I have moved around a lot and there are quite a few people who were good friends and I don't want to completely loose contact with. I wrote and addressed all the cards ages ago but still haven't done the letter. I can't write it without mentioning all the family's difficulties and can't really face putting them down all at once. Plus it feels like an overall misery fest to send people for Christmas. There are some positives but if I only write them, it would feel unreal and then what's the point.
It's not as if I can just give it a miss for one year as I doubt next year would be any better.
Any thoughts welcome.

SallyBear Wed 11-Dec-13 13:15:37

NHMW skip the letter. You keep putting it off because you don't want to do it, then don't do it. Just put a photo in of your family with the words 'sent with love this Christmas'.

PolterGoose Wed 11-Dec-13 13:21:06

I would skip the letter too, what about a picture of dd in her performance and ds in his glad tags for the prom or graduation thing he went to?

PolterGoose Wed 11-Dec-13 13:21:27

glad rags not tags

NoHaudinMaWheest Wed 11-Dec-13 14:03:25

Good idea. There is a fantastic photo of ds getting his GCSE results. Dd is allergic to being photographed though.

zzzzz Wed 11-Dec-13 14:29:08

I'd write it. Love is sharing both good and bad. It's easy to send a letter when things are going swimmingly, it's harder to share the bad, but if you don't these relationships are less real and less close as result.

Send the photos too. I love photos in Christmas cards.

moosemama Wed 11-Dec-13 16:03:10

I am completely knackered. So have read but can't think of anything to say that hasn't already been said. Still haven't shifted the end of my virus and feel like the post-viral part is starting to hit now as well, which doesn't feel fair, especially as there's just so much to do at this time of the year.

Sally - your dcs are indeed all beautiful - I can see them all being heartbreakers when the time comes, with such beautiful big eyes. Oh - and you have the same rug as us! grin

I have nothing to add re the warhammer thing. I've allowed my dcs to waste their money then regret it in the past and they seem to have gone the other way now, storing it up too scared to spend it in case something better comes along and they haven't any money left.

NoHaudin, it really depends on how close you are to the people you're sending to and whether or not it's stuff you'd share if you were to actually see them over the holidays. If you feel they are people that would support you through good and bad, then write the letter, if not then I agree with the others - skip the letter and send a photo of your dc's high points. I always think a good photo beats a thousand words anyway.

signandsmile Wed 11-Dec-13 20:12:00

moose hope you feel better soon...

(sign waves at na haudin) i like mooses take on Poulter and sally's photo idea... are there some you could sent photo to and feel that was enough.. and just send the letter to a select few, or even send photo now to some and say letter to follow in the spring, kind of spread them out to pace yourself...?

SummerRain Wed 11-Dec-13 20:21:01

I have rum smile

Company agm today so had a 2 course meal and booze before 1pm. Only had the one there though as my lift was leaving early so did a bit if xmas shopping on the way home and when I got back dp suggested a take away and booze tonight to cheer us up after the rotten week we've had so we've just cracked open a bottle of captain Morgan wink

Moose flowers sorry you're still under the weather

moosemama Wed 11-Dec-13 20:44:41

Aw, thank you sign and Summer. I was just having a whinge really. I'm ok. Managed to survive a dog walk and dog training today - I am just fed up of being so exhausted when there's so much I need to be doing.

Still, I am in a good mood, as a lovely Mnetter on Style and Beauty managed to find the boots I've been dreaming of getting to help me survive the winter, (but couldn't afford) in an online sale and dh has agreed to go halves with his parents for them for me for Christmas, so I ordered them this evening. Haven't had a decent pair of winter boots for years and am rather embarrassingly excited about it. blush

NoHaudinMaWheest Wed 11-Dec-13 20:59:14

Moose the post viral stuff is horrid especially when you just want to get on. Sounds great about the boots.

Thanks for all the ideas about the letter. I have started one and will probably send it - it is just a brief summary. If I say I will write in the spring I know it will never get done. (Though Dh has an old uni friend who always sends her Christmas cards in time for old New Year).

Sign I meant to say sorry that you didn't get your break in Bath. Do I gather from your posting that college is finished/ winding down?

PolterGoose Wed 11-Dec-13 21:54:29

moose had to look at your boots thread, I like them a lot, can you let me know what they're like to wear once you've tried them out, I've got some Merrell sandals that are super comfy but never thought to look at their boots.

wine and flowers for anyone in need.

We are mostly plodding grumpily, angrily and anxiously toward the end of term. I've said it before but I am so fucking fed up with primary school.

Trigglesx Wed 11-Dec-13 22:01:06

I'm edging towards the end of my rope. EH being frustrating, paed being frustrating, and DS1 has developed some new tics over the last 4 months and new behaviours that are sending me around the bend.

And if I have to tell someone to "calm down and stop shouting" one more time I may scream myself. (not DS1)

Trigglesx Wed 11-Dec-13 22:07:36

Polter We're just trying to get through until the school break as well. Between illness and other stresses, I have just about had it. I'm looking forward to a few weeks with no school runs, no letters home about this and that and asking for donations, no daily diaries with daily work to deal with and not enough time to deal with it. Just does my head in.

PolterGoose Wed 11-Dec-13 22:10:41

I am so at the end of my tether, I'm resisting communicating with school though because I suspect I'll lose it completely.

Ds has a school trip tomorrow, which will be interesting hmm

Trigglesx Wed 11-Dec-13 22:13:15

DS1 missed his today - the panto he had been so excited to go see - because he was ill (asthma acting up). Cue massive meltdown - which only made the coughing and wheezing worse. hmm

PolterGoose Wed 11-Dec-13 22:15:50

That's a shame sad

Ds was moaning about the trip today, I said "Don't go, if you really can't cope then stay home, it's no big deal", he replied "Of course I'm going, there might be something good, you're doing that reverse psychology aren't you?" grin

moosemama Wed 11-Dec-13 22:20:24

Polter, I didn't know they did winter boots either. Used to have some of their hiking shoes years ago and they were sooo comfortable, then saw a woman wearing a pair when I was dog walking, googled 'Merrell boots'. From the reviews I've read they are supposed to be really comfortable and extra toasty. I even found a few old MN threads on them.

I totally get how you feel about primary school. Even though ds1 is no longer there I still find myself clenching my teeth every single time I walk down the path to our primary. I dragged myself to their Christmas Fair last Saturday and am there for dd's nativity tomorrow and that's two visits too many for my liking. I still get 'the look' of various teachers and other assorted staff members even though I haven't actually 'dealt' with them once since ds left last July. I guess my rep will always go before me now, which is a pita, as dd has another 6 and a half years left to go. <<cries>>

Ds1's secondary school seems to finally sorting their backside out <<touches wood frantically>>. They are reopening the SEN safe space for breaks and lunches - apparently the reason given was 'parental pressure'. grin Who me? <<whistles an innocent tune>> The computer club - incorporating beloved Minecraft has been reopened but this time is being run by a teacher, rather than a y11 pupil and the old HT is apparently back in evidence as well, albeit in a different roll. Ds says he's been in to talk to and reassure the SEN pupils and is now working in an office upstairs and has an open door policy for them. He's on the Board of Trustees, is Vice-Chair and Chairman of the Education Committee and has a senior Governor's role to do with Inclusion and the whole ethic/culture of the school as well, so hopefully now he's back things will continue to improve.

Ds1 breaks up on Friday lunchtime, so we have a week at home together before his siblings break-up, which will really help keep him calm and get him settled before they're all home together. Kind of puts pay to my any Christmas wrapping opportunities though. I'm hopeless, I've still barely wrapped any, I'm just to blooming tired to keep carting them up and downstairs.

moosemama Wed 11-Dec-13 22:25:16

Triggles, sorry you are having such a rough time.

"I'm looking forward to a few weeks with no school runs, no letters home about this and that and asking for donations, no daily diaries with daily work to deal with ... "

That describes exactly how I've been feeling too. I'm also really looking forward to not having to be up at 6.15 every morning to get ds1 ready in time for his transport. When all three were at primary I used to get up at 8.00 am and we'd still be in school for 8.45 with 10 minutes to spare. Now I'm up at 6.15 and for some reason we scream through the gates just in time for ds2's queue to line up at 8.50 (they've changed the school times this week to stagger the nursery/infants/junior times).

Polter - that is one very smart cookie you have there! grin

PolterGoose Wed 11-Dec-13 22:28:44

moose so glad school for ds1 is improving. I haven't wrapped yet either but everything is in my wardrobe so I'll just wrap upstairs at some point.

Trigglesx Wed 11-Dec-13 22:51:31

I spent most of this afternoon and evening telling EH to calm down and stop getting on DS1 about his vocal outbursts and behaviours. FFS if his own father, who knows about his disabilities, can't be tolerant, what hope is there for others to be understanding? I despair, I really do.

And I was THISCLOSE to saying something dreadful to a few tutters and mumblers at school run today (when DS1 went along to pick up DS2). One mum, who is the parent of a child in DS2's class that I chat with regularly, just said (relatively loudly) "Oh fuck 'em if they have a problem, it's too damn bad." grin See why I like her?

Trigglesx Wed 11-Dec-13 22:53:09

moose glad to hear your DS1's school is getting better. That'll be nice for you both to have that extra week for some down time.

Polter reverse psychology grin love it.

moosemama Wed 11-Dec-13 23:07:47

Triggles, I like the sound of your school-run friend.

The extra week at home with ds1 will be nice, but it's totally thrown me. I got into a right panic this morning thinking it was ds2's teacher's last day before they break up (job share and she does Monday to Wednesday). It was only when I was talking to his friend's Grandma while we waited for them to come out that the penny dropped. blush

Ds1 has a 'disco' at school tomorrow afternoon - can't say I think it's the best idea with such a high proportion of pupils having ASD, but hey - what would I know? Such a palaver, he has to take his own snacks, cakes and sweets to be sure they're gf and despite my asking dh every day since the beginning of last week he still hadn't gone to Tesco to buy gf mince pies and christmas cake (can't face baking this year). I got my own back though - gave him a jar of mincemeat and some gf pastry and he ended up having to bake some instead! grin

Forgot to get ds to pick an outfit to wear as well (they can change at lunchtime and I can just feel the chaos that's going to result already) so he's going to have a total panic over that in the morning.

Just found a card and present in his bag from his new best friend. smile It's really lovely of him, but am now worried as we haven't bought him anything and I don't know enough about him to get something tomorrow.

... and oh bugger - I just remembered I haven't wrapped his taxi driver and escorts' gifts and I want dh to take them out tomorrow morning, so he can double check they know the school breaks up at lunch time on Friday.

I was just off to bed too ...

PolterGoose Thu 12-Dec-13 10:20:35

Hope the morning went okay moose

Triggles she sounds like my sort of person grin

Ds was fine this morning, he's gone to the Fleet Air Arm Museum so we had a joke about not hitting any bombs and not pressing any buttons, he retorted "and I won't have a meltdown in the bomb room" (I don't think there actually is a bomb room but it was a surprise he got into the spirit of things) and he went into class quite happily. Fingers crossed for hometime.

zzzzz Thu 12-Dec-13 11:39:55

grin morning all. One more week of term. Dd3 is struggling. She says she "hates school it's so boring and so long" I feel like putting my fingers in my ears and shouting "lalalalala"

Ds1 ate a pea yesterday <faints>. He says it was "yucky" grin but seems quite at one with the experience. I asked him if he would like another.......the child said "no" and very obviously thinks I am very limited. grin

moosemama Thu 12-Dec-13 11:40:14

Thanks Polter. Late night panic was all my own fault. I was so tired I sat curled up on the sofa and completely forgot the list of things I had to get done until I got up to go to bed. Dh was seriously unimpressed - all this cycling to and from the station every day, plus walking to and from the office the other end is wearing him out and he comes home exhausted and grumpy every night.

He's absolutely loving his new job though, which is all that matters. It's the kind of place he's always wanted to work, with lots of like minded people and as much emphasis on fun and enjoying your job as there is on productivity. I do think a hefty chunk of that is probably down to the fact he joined during the Christmas festivities so it's been one long round of celebratory lunches, secret santas and 'wear your Christmas jumper to work days', but then again, there's an x-box next to his desk for anyone to play with whenever the mood takes them and a pool table in the middle of the room so it doesn't seem like they take things too seriously the rest of the year.

This morning passed without too many bumps and ds1's gone off clutching a box full of dh's mince pies a couple of cakes/treats from the drawer and a bag of sweets I cobbled together from the household sweetie tin. Minor panic over what he would wear for the disco, but sorted fairly easily.

Glad your ds went off for his trip ok. Hope he has a really good day out. I'm loving his sense of humour by the way. grin

moosemama Thu 12-Dec-13 11:43:25

Morning zzzzz - my ds2 is with your dd3. He can't wait to break up and is seriously unimpressed that ds1 breaks up a week before him. Daft thing is, ds1 would rather be at school. hmm

Very impressed with the pea eating - ds2 and dd are big pea fans (inherited that one from dh) but ds1 would run screaming from the room if you tried to get him to eat one.

PolterGoose Thu 12-Dec-13 11:48:47

Well done on the pea eating grin what prompted that? ds ate a pea once, swallowed whole like a tablet, professed that peas were ok and has never touched one since.

moose glad the morning went ok, hope ds enjoys the disco.

zzzzz Thu 12-Dec-13 11:49:44

He ate it by accident moose grin Which is actually quite extraordinary in itself given he is of the "inspect your food incase of contaminants" camp rather than the "wolf it down" camp. He didn't freak out though, just announced "I ate a pea" in a mildly amazed voice. He is changing this year, and it is quite wonderful to see him steady and grow.

PolterGoose Thu 12-Dec-13 11:54:16

grin at accidental pea eating.

moosemama Thu 12-Dec-13 12:02:09

Ah, the accidental pea eh? Still, fantastic that he didn't freak out - ds1 definitely would have done.

Poor old ds1 accidentally put a chocolate in his mouth last weekend and chocolate is his absolute nemesis - he can't even stand the smell of it. He won a cone of sweets at the Christmas fair and it appeared to be white bon-bons, which are gf, so he went to eat one. It wasn't a bon-bon, it was one of those chocolate snowball things that are covered in icing. We are both still totally bunged up and without a sense of smell, so neither of us smelled the chocolate. The look of utter panic on his face, poor kid. Fortunately I realised the second he put it in and we had to do the emergency 'spit it in a tissue' routine. I think not being able to smell saved him, as he said he didn't taste anything at all, although it was still covered in thick icing sugar when he spat it out as well. I was so relieved, because I think he'd have thrown up on the spot if he'd bitten it.

He's not too bad with what he will and won't eat now. He has even started to eat roast potatoes, when potato was an absolute no-no in any form to start with and then only some chips.

I was just saying to dh how much ds1 has changed and developed over the past year or so. It's so nice to see, but at the same time I am constantly worrying if I might be underestimating him, as I'm no longer clear on exactly what he can and can't handle, iyswim. Getting the balance of allowing them to grow, but at the same time keeping them protected is hard enough with nt kids, it's a total minefield with when they have ASD or similar issues.

ouryve Thu 12-Dec-13 14:52:07

DS2 does that with food, too, zzzzz! He can detect a tiny piece of carrot on a forkful of mince and eat around it without even looking!

Anyhow.... DS1 had a wee visit to the Indy school, today and had a fab time! He was keen to negotiate another visit, in the new year and will get to meet the other primary age children. AND HE DID SOME WRITING!!!!!!

autumnsmum Thu 12-Dec-13 15:06:57

Real mixed bag today on the sad side sat on bus and a gorgeous girl who was about dd2s age was having a conversation with her dad which is something with all her progress dd2. Can't do .on the positive side there was an exhibition of embroidered faces in the local park and she dragged me in shouting funny faces .dp remarked its so rAre for her to share anything with us

SummerRain Thu 12-Dec-13 15:49:32

ds2 pooed in the toilet 2 days running shock I'd been ignoring the issue for fear of him withholding again as we've had a good long run without needing movicol now. Caught him on Tuesday evening squatting in the living room so grabbed him and sat him on he toilet and he actually did it. I chanced my arm asking him to try last night before bed and he did it again shock I'm not getting my hopes up too much as he's gotten this far before and backslid but it's been a while sine we've had any progress at all regarding the toilet so maybe he's finally ready.

He announced today that he's Joseph in the infant room nativity confusedhmm Somehow that seems unlikely as Joseph really isn't the character the teacher would want to risk bursting into tears and refusing to go on stage! I'm intrigued to see what happens next thursday now though, the infants nativity is being kept a big secret, the kids aren't telling us anything about it as apparently the teacher wants it to be a surprise... it could be more surprising than she planned on tbh but at least it'll be a bit of light relief before having to sit through the other two plays grin

PolterGoose Thu 12-Dec-13 15:56:01

autumn sorry about bus girl making you sad, glad dd enjoyed the faces <intrigued>

ouryve and Summer well done those boys grin

Good news here too grin ds described his day variously as epic, awesome and brilliant, who knew he'd enjoy planes so much? I got monologued all the way home about Spitfires, Concord and a helicopter simulator, I feel a new obsession is on the horizon.

autumnsmum Thu 12-Dec-13 16:02:51

Poltergoose it was an exhibition of embroidered self portraits a local community group had done .the woman running the exhibition was genuine and friendly as well

ouryve Thu 12-Dec-13 20:43:57

Well done to your DS, Summer. The pooing is a biggy. Pooing is what kept DS1 in nappies until he was nearly 8.

zzzzz Thu 12-Dec-13 20:52:15

summer WOW! I think that calls for the famous zzzzz rendition of the potty training anthem

Ahem...<to the tun of "Vindaloo">

In the loo
In the loo
In the loo, In the loo, In the LOO
Pee pee poo
In the loo
In the loo, In the loo, In the LOO!

Repeat until triumphant feeling is satisfied.


Jacksterbear Thu 12-Dec-13 21:16:22

Thanks zzzzz, now I have that stuck in my head fgrin

zzzzz Thu 12-Dec-13 21:18:15

All my best ideas are tres catchy. grin

SummerRain Thu 12-Dec-13 22:37:45

Thanks zzzzz, I might try singing that at him tomorrow to see if I can shock him into performing grin He refused today so I'm not too optimistic we're out of the woods yet but at least there's hope.

hazeyjane Thu 12-Dec-13 23:01:22

Have just finished sewing a sheep costume. Why does my dd have to be the only girl in infants that doesn't want to be a bloody angel!

the nurse doing my blood test this morning was asking ds questions about Thomas the tank engine, he was completely ignoring her, she asked more questions and then said, 'You won't say anything if you don't put that tongue away.'

There was a shock pause then I said, 'um actually he has a genetic condition, he can't speak and his tongue is always out, he can sign though, and he loves helicopters'

I have never seen anyone look so mortified, but I really hadn't said it in any way because I had taken offence, I just didn't want her to dig herself into a hole any more!

She was then lovely, asking what the sign was for helicopter, and finding a Father Christmas sticker for ds, and genuinely talking to him, rather than talking to me about him over his head. It was an oddly lovely moment. She left me with a stonking bruise wher she jabbed me though!

zzzzz Thu 12-Dec-13 23:21:29

I had a similar experience with ds at the self service check out. The assistant trying to help rescue us from the mire that is the "Unidentified item in bagging area". Told ds off for touching the bagging area (which was NOT what caused the problem). He only heard touch not "don't touch"....snow ball of instruction, misunderstanding, irritation, instruction... I had to lay my hand on her arm à la caring carrot and say "he can't understand what you are saying". Poor thing she was so terribley flustered and I really did understand she couldn't have known because ds was behaving so very nt in every other way grin <smug>

SummerRain Thu 12-Dec-13 23:21:44

hazey... we used to get a lot of similar comments. One old lady in the bank plucked ds2's dummy from his mouth and told him he was too big for it. He was 14 months and SALT were encouraging its use to build his oral muscles, up til 8/9 months his suck reflex was so poor he couldn't hold a dummy in his mouth. Plenty of other times we had the 'You won't be able to talk with that dummy/ hand in your mouth' or complete strangers prompting him to say please or thank you when he was totally non-verbal hmm

You grow a thick skin fast with a non-talking child, luckily dd gave me 5 years of practice with selective mutism to develop my armored skin wink

I'm glad that nurse was embarrassed at least, she really needs to think more carefully in her profession.

SallyBear Fri 13-Dec-13 13:52:53

I will be glad when the Christmas madness is over with. Poor DS4 (6yrs) is really struggling this year. He smeared poo all over his bedroom wall last night. Just one of several anxiety related behaviours that he has been showing. Everyone else is mega excited about Christmas. He is sadly a ball of stress. My poor baby.

hazeyjane Fri 13-Dec-13 14:03:03

Oh Sallybear, poor ds. It is so difficult when everything is so out of the ordinary and what is special and exciting to their siblings and everyone else is just frightening and overwhelming to them. Sending lots of love your way.

I know it is a different circumstance, but ds is struggling too. His chest is full of gunk, he won't let me do chest physio because he seems to be hyper sensitive to everything (maybe anxiety too?) I am up all night with him, because he is coughing so much, but the girls are in a whirl of excitement because it is Christmas and there are nativities and sheep costumes to make and Christmas parties and presents to buy and it is just all too much.

youarewinning Fri 13-Dec-13 21:13:14

Hi all. Just had a read through.

I'll post properly on Sunday.

Car broke this week, TV Ariel broken and tooth extracted and off out to railway tomorrow for the day. Tired and in pain so need a good sleep before 4 hr round trip tomorrow. Ha ha who am I kidding? We managed a whole 1.5 hrs of anxiety at 2am this morning - a record for DS!

Oh and school have now classed him as MLD on his new IEP - which is a fab IEP and I'm pleased with it. He's done assessments this week - not had literacy or reading back but maths he got a 4B. So now really wondering about secondary because his ability range is ridiculously varied. Wondering if and when we get a DX with this info it may help me get him Indy through lea?

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