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Scroll down to the bottom and see a pic of a bunch of stereotypical carrots.

RippingYarns Fri 19-Jul-13 09:58:52


they're all drones aren't they?

possibly also clones.

We've all sat in meetings with people who look like that right?

RippingYarns Fri 19-Jul-13 10:06:34

<ticks sheet>

YES!! grin

is there a special clone/drone caring carrot hairdressers too?

claw2 Fri 19-Jul-13 10:27:41

That is from right to left, home tutor, education welfare officer, parent partnership and social worker I swear grin

loulou77 Fri 19-Jul-13 10:40:48

Had to delurk to laugh in company....they have a special voice too. Can't really describe it, but it has a quality. I know this is true because my DS generally kicks off at this kind of voice. Maybe his special ASD talent is sensing carrots?

<waves to loulou>

grin It really did make me laugh tbh. I'm surprised the TES didn't see it themselves. The picture SMELLS like a TAC.

AgnesDiPesto Fri 19-Jul-13 11:08:41

I think I have heatstroke. I am sitting here trying to think of words for a caring carrot song to the tune of the spitting image chicken song
Want to help me out?

Yes to the voice.

I reckon all kids should be made to sit an exam at 4 and then those with 'the voice' and other obvious traits can go to a special ed school just for them.........

Yes Agnes.

The first line of the chorus will be 'Throw some provision in the air'.

The first line of the first verse will be 'It's that time of year, yes the Annual Review'

It's that time of year,
Yes the Annual Review,
When we get to treat
all the parents like poo

chocnomore Fri 19-Jul-13 11:26:42

just as we do
the whole year too

RippingYarns Fri 19-Jul-13 11:28:53

can you get a line about drinking lots of coffee, eating lots of biscuits and nodding

but fuck all else?


Chuck some provision in the air
And discharge from therapy
remove the one to one
and then drink a cup of tea
make some targets up
to put on the IEP
then go sick with stress
and demand more salary.

AgnesDiPesto Fri 19-Jul-13 11:38:02

Star I knew you would be good at this

So what should they stick the carrot???

claw2 Fri 19-Jul-13 11:53:29


Throw some provision in the air
stick a carrot up your arse
have a cup of tea
and nod politely
remove some help
then report to ss
form a lynch party
and we know your name is thief

claw, that made me rofl.

Verse 2:

Throw some provision in the air
stick a carrot up your arse
have a cup of tea
be complicit in a farce
form a lynch party
and smile through your gritted teeth
get the social in
and pretend you're not a thief

dunno about good, but it is cathartic..

But what is the collective name for such a group of caring carrots?. They need classification.

The rhymes made me laugh today, thanks to both claw and star.

inappropriatelyemployed Fri 19-Jul-13 12:28:37

Excellent. That photo is perfect.

I came on here to rant about something else and you have cheered me up!

I can't better Star's or Claw's but here's my attempt:

Throw the provision in the air
But tell the parents that you care
Make them fight for help
And moan about their tone
Complain they're stressing you out
And must leave you alone
So drink your tea
with a carrot up your arse
Because as we all know
it's all a bleeding farce..

claw2 Fri 19-Jul-13 12:32:57

It could become the SN anthem and be played before meetings, like the National anthem to evoke history and traditions.

Everyone has to stand obviously and you will always get the few who just move their mouths as they don't know the words!

inappropriatelyemployed Fri 19-Jul-13 12:33:43

Fist in the air claw, clenched fist in the air

claw2 Fri 19-Jul-13 12:37:03

The collective name for a group of caring carrots...a bunch of wankers


You're making me giggle.

Your kid's safe now right?

moosemama Fri 19-Jul-13 12:54:32

This thread has made me laugh out loud!

I think you should get together and write the SEN Provision Poetry Book. It'd definitely go straight to the top of my book list.

Alternatively, you could get together and release a single! grin

claw2 Fri 19-Jul-13 12:57:22

Im getting a little carried away and I haven't even had a drink!

Ds is safe. They are still insisting on being involved. However they do not have a leg to stand on. They are still refusing to give me copies of any assessments or explain their procedures to me, because they don't exist or haven't been followed. Doesn't stop me replying to emails of 'can I pop in briefly' with 'yes that fine, can you please bring a copy of IA assessment, core assessment, CIN plan along with you'

New SW is about as much use as a chocolate teapot, but tolerable. I am still attending CIN meetings, without anyone having a CIN plan and minutes are headed TAC, not CIN!


Is he attending school much?

AgnesDiPesto Fri 19-Jul-13 13:12:14

I should be cleaning the back yard for a BBQ
Instead I wrote this blush:

Its the time of year, now the budget’s running out
When the S-E-N team, show what they’re all about
Cut everything and give parents some old flannel
If you get in trouble, just blame it on the Panel

From the coast of Holland
To the shores of Timbuktu
No matter where you hide
The caring carrot will find you

Hold a leaflet in the air
Put a clipboard on your knee
Stack the room with mates
To nod along polite-l-y

Call them “Mum” alot
And pretend you give a damn
Make up some utter bollocks, and
call it a “personalised plan”

AgnesDiPesto Fri 19-Jul-13 13:20:58

Claw I love yours

claw2 Fri 19-Jul-13 13:22:34

He had his transition period, 2 half days for 4 weeks, then 2 full days last week, with home tutor attending with him. Full time in Sept without home tutor. Went quite well. Ds still not able to eat in school or use the toilet. Had a few meltdowns. Ds doesn't like the home tutor and has said he doesn't want her attending, although he found a familiar face helpful to start with. So its worked out ok.

Meeting next week 'CIN' at school, with CAMHS who havent seen ds since Jan, SW who has met him once, home tutor who will be providing nothing from now on and school to discuss what help he will need for September.

School seem on the ball and have already sent home referral form to the indi SALT they use, despite statement not specifying SALT involvement. So looking very hopeful.

claw2 Fri 19-Jul-13 13:24:30

So a room full of caring carrots who are providing nothing and hopefully a very helpful school.

The SN anthem will be going through my head during the meeting now grin

Ahhhh, good luck. So not out of the woods yet but the clearing is in sight......

Agnes, Love it. Paints such an accurate picture.

It's the SMILING that does me in. Don't smile at me whilst you lie you fucking witch

Or you could say the Lords Prayer:

Our LA, the Armagedon,
Shallow be thy name,
Thy meeting come
But nowt will be done
Except CPD
In Devon

Give us this day
Our daily stress
And give us our PECSeses
As we lose the TAs under mountains of laminate
And lead us to low expecations
and deliver us from hope.

For thine is the Education Kingdom
The power and it’s gory
failing my son

claw2 Fri 19-Jul-13 13:49:40

Lol brilliant Agnes and Star!

Im just sat here waiting for the paddling pool to empty, so I can fill it again, laughing at my laptop screen, ds is sitting next to me, eating pringles, playing pokemon and giving me strange looks for laughing!

Quote of the week me to SW at last CIN meeting "can you clarify your involvement" SW "I don't know why im involved" if only face palming was allowed!

claw2 Fri 19-Jul-13 13:58:41

ROFL ive just seen Star's comment 'SMELLS like a TAC'

starfish71 Fri 19-Jul-13 14:14:08

Thank you this had made me laugh today! grin. And prompted me to finish off two emails to one of my caring carrots! ( separate emails for each DS - don't want them getting too confused!) smile

AgnesDiPesto Fri 19-Jul-13 14:22:07

Star I might have to print that out and laminate it grin

Ineedmorepatience Fri 19-Jul-13 14:42:44


Nothing to add but love the songs and prayer.

I went to a TAC the other day and I swear there were several of those ladies in the room grin

claw2 Fri 19-Jul-13 15:57:19

This thread has made my day!

I will sitting through my TAC/CIN meeting next week with this going round my head, trying not to smirk, I wont be able to look at the caring carrots again!

NoHaudinMaWheest Fri 19-Jul-13 16:52:06

Fantastic everyone.

Don't a bunch of caring carrots make a carrot stew?

caringcarrotcruncher Fri 19-Jul-13 18:26:22

Ha ha, I am loving the poems!
Reminds me of an excellent quote a caring carrot said once ' I think you think we are more Machiavellian than we actually are!'

inappropriatelyemployed Fri 19-Jul-13 20:24:58

Fab Agnes and Star and great to see Claw on top form again!! Claw you sound much brighter.

This really cheered me up today as I had to watch the LGO deadline tick round without having the time to put in submissions. Solicitor emailed twice and they just ignored her. On top of that an LA response to a complaint saying DS had no OT for a year consisted of 'an OT turned up for the AR in 2012'. That's it - with a leaflet about the LGO! What are we doing to kids in this country? They know this is a mindfuck,

So its great to laugh about caring carrot crap like 'he's got to understand learning comes from schools'. I say 'I disagree, why do you say that'.Answer 'I don't know'

Or 'we need to be working towards formal education, in a school'. I say 'why?' Answer 'I don't know'

bochead Fri 19-Jul-13 20:44:45

It's the inane smile and the head tilt that does my head in!

I seriously want to hand out neck braces at the next meeting I attend as the "head tilt" makes me think the programming on the Stepford style robots I deal with needs a decent system tester asap.

Did a short course this week, which gave me a chance to practice my head tilt hee hee. I fully intend to use it at my meeting next week, just to see how they react now I can do it effectively too. Having quite mastered the "I hear what you are saying" phrase in quite the right tone tho sad

Never mind the carrot stew - feed them to your neighborhood donkey & have done.

You went on a course to perfect the head tilt?

I've often wondered what it would be like to tilt my head at the same time in a mirroring way, and whether I should tilt it the same way, or the opposite way to make theirs more pronounced.

Or perhaps just tip it right back and stick my chin out.

I like 'I hear what you're saying', as a precursor to following up with clarifying that they said what I wanted them to say and a dare for them to disagree so:

'I hear what you are saying. You are saying that there are children far more severe than mine with much less provision so you are going to have to recruit more staff urgently. I hope it goes well.'

Aika Fri 19-Jul-13 21:52:50

Please somebody tell me where this carrot thing came from. I feel like an uninitiated kid in the playground. I am very very new to this world, but I can relate to some of the things, particularly being called 'Mum'.

inappropriatelyemployed Fri 19-Jul-13 22:01:47

Over to star for an explanation ....

iirc (and I may not), a professional made a suggestion that one mother should consider giving her child carrot battons to help with the issues relating to the disability.

This became known as 'caring carrotology' i.e. patronising nonsense from someone that felt they had to offer something but didn't really know what to do. The fact that the child in question regularly ate carrots in 'non-batton' form appeared to mean nothing.

And then, one MNer went to a conference about evidence-based practice and got her picture taken with the keynote speaker and this

starfish71 Fri 19-Jul-13 22:19:45

I love to hate the caring carrots grin it's been a long day but star, claw and all you wonderful posters have made me smile x

Aika Fri 19-Jul-13 22:20:33

ahaha. carrot battons!

No idea how copyright works but that picture would be excellently placed on a certain blog next to this:

"I remember by first multi-agency ‘Team around the Child’ meeting. I was there, humble, hopeful, scared, on the verge of tears, desperate. It sounded wonderful though. This person was going to 'advise', that person was going to 'refer', another person was going to 'monitor' and another going to 'send your son's case to a 'panel'', and someone else was going to send his case to a 'board'. Yet another person was going to put together a 'programme' and someone else was going to 'assess'. We were going to get 'support' and my son was to get 'therapy'. Someone else was going to 'investigate' the 'opportunities' that our LEA had for children such as my son, and someone else was going to 'liaise' with us.

A couple of months later and I realised that some if not ALL of the above was happening in terms of moving funds and delegating money to people's case-loads, but yet not one single OUTCOME had occurred for my son.

In fact we hardly saw anyone, they were all busy referring, and investigating and writing programmes or whatever. I hung around here a bit complaining and apologising and thinking ' Oh, he's only little, we have lots of time'. But a short while later I realised that it was good as it was ever going to get unless I started to demand better.

There are a lot of busy people, defending their paperwork and their meetings and shuffling money around, perhaps making speeches over Christmas dinner about their virtuousness. They are incredulous at the very idea you challenge their commitment to your child, yet the extent of their role seems to be simply to 'manage' them and their families through the education system for as cheap as possible.

bochead Fri 19-Jul-13 23:18:26

The course was a H&S requirement for my new venture but the tutors head tilt was 10/10. I got a bit bored so devoted myself to this most important art before completing my multiple choice paper at the end of the day in order to tick my box on a regulatory form.

My aim at next week's meeting is currently to broccoli the caring carrots standing between my family and a decent life.

inappropriatelyemployed Fri 19-Jul-13 23:19:07


The certain blog could ask the TES for permission to use it!

You're going to broccoli your carrots?


bochead Fri 19-Jul-13 23:25:47

I hear what you are saying Star, yes I intend to broccoli my carrots, and gently guide them towards acceptance of their cauliflowers. Obviously we'll need to review their progress at infrequent intervals via remote observations of the cucumber in our Pimms at our next Panel. head tilt

If only to make TES aware of blog........

TBH, I'd probably accept any intervention these days that ended in Pimms.

bochead Sat 20-Jul-13 09:59:08

Well the amount of BS I'm currently fed would feed a wonderful veggie garden. That would be a better outcome for DS than what's being offered right now.

Parental Intervention low level - Pimms
Parental Intervention intensive - G&T

Forgive me, but I'm fast running out of patience this term, and we still have 3 days to go.

3 days. Ah forget about them. Go and live in a tent while the fees are still cheap.

justaboutreadyforbed Sat 20-Jul-13 11:55:26

This thread has made my week. I am having a really shit time for all sorts of non-SEN-related reasons and it has really, really, really made me laugh. Star, the Lord's Prayer is particularly brilliant. Can I cite it on FB?

inappropriatelyemployed Sat 20-Jul-13 12:22:49

Still looking for caring carrot stories for the blog!

Anyone want to do a page on it for me?

bochead Sat 20-Jul-13 12:50:42

Can't - got a HUGE multi-agency meeting planned. Nope they can't tell me the purpose, who will be attending, or the expected outcomes. confused.

It'll be the last one.

The ex has decided to be an arse too.

Yes, of course.

I'd just like to change the line 'in Devon' to 'as it is in Devon'.

But go ahead.

Is your leaving a secret?

Will this meeting be about that?

Tbh I would ask them to arrange for a date after you have left and then call in moved sick.

NoHaudinMaWheest Sat 20-Jul-13 16:48:55

For a collective noun for the caring carrots Dcs and I came up with

A collusion of caring carrots who (of course) never come to a conclusion.

LOL That's brilliant.

inconclusive collusion

Funnily enough I don't have any examples of caring carrotology, or at least if I do I have forgotten. My LA and all who sailed in her were blatant and smug in their demonstration of uselessness that they didn't even try or pretend.

Generally it was 'no because I said so' followed by 'you can't make us do our job so we won't'.

Though I guess there was always the green spot..........

Oh and the 'he can't have a 1:1 because that will cost too much especially for one trained well enough to not make him dependent

moondog Sat 20-Jul-13 20:56:19

I'm just about to read an article in the paper asking whether we would be safer without police.
I instantly thought the same about the SEN industry.
If I could share one piece of advice, it would be to involve yourself with as few professionals as possible. Jettison the rest ruthlessly.
Love the lyrics. grin

bochead Sat 20-Jul-13 22:59:44

My bessie is coming to the meeting together with my God daughter. We'll have a nice cup of tea before we go and then head tilt in sync. Unlike all previous meetings I'm not hoping that someone will see the light & be reasonable. I'm just turning up to get my "complied with professionals" tick in the box.

I know they'll send a horrid report on me to the new LA, but I'm ready to head tilt with the best of them at that end too.

In the words of Clark Gable "Quite frankly my dear, I don't give a damn" wink what they think anymore.

WetAugust Sun 21-Jul-13 00:31:16

How about a 'calumny' of caring carrots?

I once sat in a meeting with 6 identikit caring carrots, not one of which was empowered to actually 'do' anything to assist DS. A total waste of time.

The absolute worst CC worked in the specialist unit. She used to run out of the building when she saw me arriving in the car, straight across the car park, would open my passenger door and plonk herself in my passenger seat. The first time I was WTF? The next time I just parked at the far end to make her run further. It became a battle - could I park and get out of my car before she got in?

They are all barking!

Badvoc Sun 21-Jul-13 08:44:50

My sons HT called me "militant" about sen in a meeting once.
Because I disagreed with her view that my son would "magically" make 4 years progress in 2 if I just trusted her and her teachers (one of whom had told me that I may have to except that the lowest sets were "where my son belonged")
And Because I disagreed with the EP report I arranged and paid for.
I think I am the first parent to stand up to her for a long time tbh.
I don't trust anyone who writes off children at age 7.
And yet they all do.
All of them.
I have since sat in on meetings - where I think they must have forgotten I was there - and a deputy HT told the meeting that a child who did not meet expected NC levels by year 2 "never would".
Hmmmm....odd to say that whilst I am sat there. My son went from level 1s in year 3 to level 4s in year 5. Hmmmm.
The only "provision" my son ever got was inclusion in a speech and language group. Still not sure why he was put in there, but there you go. Probably to keep me quiet.
That worked (not) grin

Badvoc Sun 21-Jul-13 08:46:52

Bochead...I am pretty sure there's a huge black mark against my name on some LA file somewhere.
I home schooled for a year which is an automatic black mark ime.
Then I disagreed with the HT and EP. How dare I?
Then I just got on with it and taught my son myself.
They hate me smile

The thing is Bad, that HE or anything the parent does is seen as the kind of baseline. So how ever well your child does with your efforts, it is considered zero, with what the school can supposedly do being on top of that.

It's one of the reasons we lost our tribunal, as ds' ABA programme was mainly done by us, but considered by the panel as 'just good parenting, which would continue regardless of provision'. It was felt therefore that the LA could offer 'extra' and should not be paying for something the parents were doing.

You'll never change that mindset. It's almost like 'well if a parent can raise attainment by 2 levels just THINK of how far he would go had he been in school with the professionals.

Badvoc Sun 21-Jul-13 09:16:05

It drives me mad.
And I have another 6 years of it as ds2 starts in August.
I just dont trust them at all anymore.
Ignorance is bliss and all that.
At least if ds2 has issues I know what to do...I.e. help him myself!

caringcarrotcruncher Sun 21-Jul-13 12:57:26

I think I am my LA 'Public Enemy No1' at the moment due to LGO complaint and a tribunal ongoing. Have also been victimised by the school.
A major charity however is interested in using my experience as a case study to inform central and local government about children with ASD's missing education.
I am just biding tine at the moment but if/when I win my case I will be going public on all that has happened. Think it will be safer to have this out in the open as it might mean less chance of retaliation/attack from the enemy. We will see.

claw2 Mon 22-Jul-13 07:44:55

Star Wow what a surprise this morning checking my emails this morning, my caring carrot chocolate teapot new SW has surprised me!!

I take back what I said about her, in my emails I have a copy of the CIN plan (written only last week, despite having CIN meetings for months) however it is all in my favour and full of praise for me and slags off old school shock what a turn around!!

justaboutreadyforbed Mon 22-Jul-13 07:47:56

Claw! How amazing! Hope it lasts, about bloody time you had someone on your side.

claw2 Mon 22-Jul-13 07:56:58

AND the outcome of the CIN plan have been reached, so im guessing SW will be saying goodbye at the meeting this week!

"For ds to access education either in mainstream setting or specialist provision depending on the outcome of the application for statutory assessment" was the outcome.

claw2 Mon 22-Jul-13 08:04:20

AND she wrote that school felt I was exaggerating ds's needs, however it was clear that ds had significant needs and that mum was doing all that she could to ensure those needs were met!

A bit of common sense at last, I could kiss her!

justaboutreadyforbed Mon 22-Jul-13 08:11:51

What's the education plan?

NoHaudinMaWheest Mon 22-Jul-13 09:19:26

claw so glad you have someone seeing sense at last.

claw2 Mon 22-Jul-13 09:19:57

Ds now has his statement and a place at indi special school.


Three cheers for Claw, for against all odds and years of battles and torment she's finally managed to secure an adequate education for her ds.

Well done though. I hope you get a few years peace and respite.

If you're like me you'll need to expect a bit of depression to set in in a few months when your adrenaline levels fall and exhaustion suddenly takes hold - and have a plan in place for that i.e exercise, things in the diary to look forward to, etc.

claw2 Mon 22-Jul-13 09:51:12

I try to go to the gym everyday for an hour (as long as older ds is around to look after ds) if not I have a treadmill and rowing machine in the shed or I try to street run. Exercise has really helped to ward off the tired feeling and I feel great after! I previously had to cancel my gym membership during SA, as a) I didn't have the time and b) I couldn't afford it, having to pay solicitor etc, etc.

I am now getting school uniform out of the way (bloody £400) and Christmas, then saving for our first ever family holiday abroad.

I am also trying to fit in some days out, something I couldn't afford before, we went to the cinema on Friday, visited my mum and little Venice on Sat, Sunday family bbq.

Im so looking forward to being a 'normal' mum again! or well 'normalish' anyhow!

claw2 Mon 22-Jul-13 10:07:14

Ds even has his own little exercise plan, he does 10 minutes on the treadmill, its really helped with his fear of moving escalators. I recently got a massive paddling pool in the garden, which has really helped him overcome his fear of water too. He is now swimming underwater!!

and he even tried eating sushi at the weekend!

The most important thing of all, I am now getting my old ds back grin

justaboutreadyforbed Mon 22-Jul-13 10:32:22

That is amazing. So so glad.

claw2 Mon 22-Jul-13 10:34:15

Thanks everyone grin

Oh that's brilliant. SO good to hear Claw.

I hope this new school is able to help your ds and your family get back to a normal family life and that your ds is happy there.

I fought the claw, and the claw won..............

At last!!!!

KeepOnKeepingOn1 Mon 22-Jul-13 12:35:33

Well done Claw - you played a blinder smile

The best indicator that things have got better is that you are no longer posting with the latest machination of the LA/SS but are posting clear and confident help to those at earlier stages of the journey. You seem stronger as a result of this experience and don't seem to be heading for depression now that you have time for a breakdown iykwim.

Not that I would recommend the experience as life-affirming!

Badvoc Mon 22-Jul-13 15:10:10

So pleased for you x

I remember Claw kept me company virtually when I was in labour just over a year ago. At 4:30am, when I think the real shit starting hitting.

I was lying on my front in the bath and posting in between contractions on my ipad. Baby was born just after 8am.

claw2 Mon 22-Jul-13 17:16:49

I remember that well Star, you were giving me advice in between contractions!!

How is little Star? I bet he has grown

Actually it was a good distraction at the time.

Baby star has taken 3 steps and though has no words is a right ole chatterbox, regularly making speeches on the bus, in the supermarket, at 5am..........

Very chilled happy soul though.

DS's term has finished so I took him and baby (in the buggy) to pick up dd. On the way back, one of the Nannies caught up with me at the road as I'd left baby in the playground and was setting off home with just dd and ds. blush.

That's how little bother he is though.

claw2 Mon 22-Jul-13 17:29:38

Keep, I don't think there is anyone could say or do in future to shock or stress me. Its been a journey and a half and I really hope I have learnt something along the way. It isn't quite over yet and im sure there will be many obstacles, but I really feel like the worse is over.

Thank you all for your support and above all keeping me sane!

claw2 Mon 22-Jul-13 17:32:24

Lol Star! I once left my eldest in the Post Office in his pram and the lady had to chase me down the road, oops!

He sounds delightful, im getting broody just thinking about him!

inappropriatelyemployed Mon 22-Jul-13 20:00:10

Great news Claw! Well done indeed!

Perhaps you could get to meeting him in the summer sometime. We're flitting about and likely to come your way around 9th Aug ish!!??

NoHaudinMaWheest Mon 22-Jul-13 22:12:54

Oh I've met him and he is delightful.

claw2 Tue 23-Jul-13 07:41:15

Ooh I would love to have a pinch of some chubby chops!

I will pm you my mobile number

justaboutreadyforbed Tue 23-Jul-13 08:10:43

I remember that well Star, you were giving me advice in between contractions!!

And that is why Star is actually superhuman

claw2 Tue 23-Jul-13 08:17:14

She most certainly is! Star has held my hand from the beginning and I owe her big time!

Without Star and many others, I would have caved long ago. I would have believed I actually was going crazy. The power of MN made the one sided fight, more even.

I often sit in meetings alone, with MN beside me, thinking hmm what would Star or Agnes or IE or Keep etc, etc say to that grin

claw2 Tue 23-Jul-13 08:25:05

I had a meeting yesterday with my caring carrot SW (I did buy her chocolates as 'I didn't know for how much longer she would be involved and I just wanted to thank her') She also emailed me to tell me she can find no trace of an initial assessment or core assessment ever having being done.

And she supplied me with the CIN plan (even if it was only written by her last week) so she got chocolates for that and above all being HONEST with me!

I have a CIN meeting this afternoon and I now feel very confident for a change.

claw2 Tue 23-Jul-13 08:50:23

Sorry for hijack of caring carrot thread, but im not sure what to do about this;-

SW is saying she can find no trace of IA or core assessment. What happened was previous SW did a draft core assessment (handed to me in a fit of rage after I complained about her) I have the draft, which is just filled with lies and inaccurate dates and info. I responded to core assessment in writing (SW has a copy of my response, its all she could find)

Now new SW is saying if I send her a copy of the draft, she will make the amendments. Draft core assessment was just a farce from page 1 to the end and the whole thing needed rewriting. It has 'disappeared' from SS systems and there is no trace of it.

My thinking if SW wants a core assessment, she should complete a new one and I should conveniently not be able to find my draft copy.

Yours thoughts?

justaboutreadyforbed Tue 23-Jul-13 10:35:03

Oh god yes, lose the paperwork. I do it all the time (and not always on purpose)

Yes lose the paperwork, but keep it to 'bargain' if you need to depending on the outcome of the next.

Don't really lose it though. It is significant evidence of malpractice if you ever need to bargain.

Though if this SW is sensible, and has been honest you might want to hold back from that, or if you follow it up be clear that she's not in the complaint.

And yes. Justa and Claw knew I was in labour before DH did.

claw2 Tue 23-Jul-13 11:09:29

I get the feeling that SW will be closing the case very soon. The outcome of the CIN plan has been reached. Nothing is left on the system but my response to draft, I have covered my bases if draft is ever found again.

CIN plan gives a brief accurate account and im happy with that. I would like nothing better than for SS to disappear into the distant past.

Hooray for Zombies!!!!

NoRunAround Fri 30-May-14 07:27:35

grin I enjoyed reading this again thanks

bochead Fri 30-May-14 11:41:17

Another one here - who got a much needed giggle.

Annual review for a statement with an empty section 2,3,5&6 is next week , and I'm fast losing patience.

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